Zeus: "I think I did everything in my power to save the roster"

Striker
August 9th, 2017 21:06

We sat down with Danylo "Zeus" Teslenko, who has just been officially transferred to Natus Vincere alongside coach Mikhaylo "Kane" Blagin, to find out what had happened in Gambit after the Major victory and the circumstances of both members leaving.

Earlier today, it was announced that Natus Vincere have brought in Danylo "Zeus" Teslenko and coach Mikhaylo "Kane" Blagin over from Gambit, completing their roster after bringing back Denis "seized" Kostin.

Zeus sheds some light on what happened after the Major

To find out what had happened in Gambit that resulted in the two members' departure despite the team's triumph at the PGL Major Krakow, we sat down with the Ukrainian captain for an interview:

Let's start with the period just before the Major, when the rumors of you potentially joining Na`Vi began. Were you in talks with your old team at that point already?

Hello, everyone. I kept contact with some players from the team for the whole time after I got kicked, but there was no talk from me regarding coming back. Before the Major, we had a tense atmosphere in the team, but I didn't think about moving to Na`Vi or any other team.

Talk me through the mood and morale within the team just before the Major, when you had poor online results. Was Gambit already in disarray then? What were the issues that you talked about in the statement?

Yes, we were close to falling apart then. The main issue is different views on the practice process.

With that said, were you surprised to see yourselves come into the tournament in such great form? I imagine you didn't come into the Major thinking you would win, tell me about how your confidence changed throughout the event.

We started gaining momentum during the championship and our coordination and play really inspired us. We set up differently for every team and it felt like we ran them over. With every win, the team felt more powerful and closer to being champions. Of course, the most serious test for us was Astralis, and after winning versus them we understood that we won't give up this final.

After you came back home, what happened that would make the team want to kick Kane after the triumph at the Major? Looking at your statement, it's quite clear you believed he was a positive force in the team, what did he bring to the table that the others couldn't see?

Some time passed after the win, and HObbit had his wedding, which Kane and I could not attend, I think if we had been at the wedding and discussed further plans in life, the roster could have been saved, and we would play further. Obviously, the guys talked it over without us and made a decision. Because after the wedding I was informed that the team had decided to kick Kane. 

During the next two days, I tried to stop the guys, went over a lot of examples about why that wasn't right and warned them that I would leave with him, I think I did everything in my power for the roster to be saved. But the guys were unmoved and their decision was final. For me, it was very hurtful, and I did not know what to do, I did not want to leave my friend and coach alone, the man who had helped not only me but the whole team to win tournaments. And after a few days, I made a decision that I would be leaving with him.

The team's decision to cut Kane drove Zeus away as well

Seeing as Kane coming in as coach was your condition when you first joined Gambit, was him getting kicked the main reason why you decided to leave as well or were there other factors?

The main reason was Kane's kick, I thought this kick was also a challenge to me, because the guys knew that this was a very important topic for me and that I would be against it. I also do not know if they would not want to kick me after some time because their relationship with me had changed, my authority in the team was no longer the same and I did not have that much impact on the players, discipline, practice and key decisions (like kicking the coach, for example).

In this situation, I was without support about the coach and did not see an opportunity to work further.

Looking at Na`Vi this year, they have obviously not been able to replicate any of the success the team had before you left, what do you see as their biggest issue?

Na`Vi had a few issues: seized's lack of experience as a captain, which was was one of the main issues, an incorrect practice process, and, at some point, the players were confused in-game and did not know what to do.

Do you expect to bring a different style to Na`Vi than how you used to play in that team in 2015-2016? How will you deal with the difference of s1mple versus GuardiaN?

I think we'll have to do a lot of work to develop our game style. Kane and I have a plan set and we will do our best, and the other players have good potential.

"I'll find a way for s1mple," Zeus says

Seeing as this will be your first time playing with s1mple, do you at all worry about the reputation he has garnered?

Sometimes even players who are calm on first sight have indescribable problems. I'll find a way for s1mple, the main thing for me is his love for work and will to win.

If there's anything else you'd like to clear up, or if you have any final message, you can do so here.

First I want to say, so that my fans know, when I left with Kane, I wasn't 100% sure I would go to Na`Vi, I thought for a while about going to pro100 and help the young guys. I also thought about retiring as a player. But in the end, I decided to keep playing. And the only good opportunity for me can only be given by Na`Vi, where I see potential in the players and an organization that needs someone like me.

Many people will ask how I could return to a team that kicked me. Well, first of all you must understand that for me, this is work and I must look at professionalism and work relationship. Personal actions should be left in the individuals' conscience. We already closed this issue with the guys.

I also want you to know that I tried to save the Gambit roster and, overlooking our issues, I wanted us to play together. But I think the decision wasn't made by me.

This [Gambit] roster and this team will forever be in my heart and it will be a separate chapter of my life, a chapter where me and the guys, not looking at all the issues, were able to win the coolest world championship in CS:GO, which I appreciate very much. I compare us to a team from 1.6 called «eoLithic», they also played really good for around a year and fell apart because of similar sh*t.

Big thanks to all who supported me in this roster and who wholeheartedly cheered for us. But this is life.

A new story lies ahead.

Last thing I wanted to say is thanks to the players and Gambit organization. It was a wonderful and crazy ride.

Ukraine Mikhaylo 'Kane' Blagin
Mikhaylo 'Kane' Blagin
Age:
-
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
0.43
Maps played:
3
KPR:
0.29
DPR:
0.82
APR:
0.09
Russia Denis 'seized' Kostin
Denis 'seized' Kostin
Age:
23
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.01
Maps played:
1014
KPR:
0.69
DPR:
0.67
APR:
0.16
Ukraine Danylo 'Zeus' Teslenko
Danylo 'Zeus' Teslenko
Age:
30
Rating 1.0:
0.94
Maps played:
1055
KPR:
0.66
DPR:
0.69
APR:
0.17
#1
NEO | 
Poland sedi 
Pure Yoy
2017-08-09 21:07
#20
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North America alexKiNg^ 
cry is free Gambit fans :(
2017-08-09 21:08
#68
byali | 
Poland kola5410 
why? WHY ZEUS WHY ?! I WANTED TO SEE BLOOD !
2017-08-09 21:21
Zeus the first thing you need to do is teach flamie and seized to hold B on overpass cause they have no idea how to do it k thx
2017-08-09 21:53
Kane looks like a snitch or a evil person.
2017-08-09 22:05
#303
Zeus | 
Latvia shtx 
vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/p__/images/.. just bit younger... Kane I mean... :)
2017-08-10 00:48
#445
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United States Logic_CSGO 
Who said that was okay to post that?
2017-08-10 16:55
is there even one gambit fan? most of them were zeus fans, with zeus moving to na'vi i think 90% of gambit fans will become na'vi's fan.
2017-08-09 23:31
i am only zeus fan not gambit xD
2017-08-10 01:26
#329
Zeus | 
Russia Klugervl 
+1000
2017-08-10 02:51
#366
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Portugal fatheroffive 
yes man
2017-08-10 08:43
#446
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United States Logic_CSGO 
What if I told you that there's still one fan of Gambit Gaming left?
2017-08-10 16:58
#448
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Yugoslavia HLTV_BOSS 
fan of dosia*
2017-08-10 17:23
XGOD fan >>> zeus fan
2017-08-10 17:18
lol nt
2017-08-12 16:56
#506
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Europe pitol 
thenks may fred
2017-08-12 21:52
Traitor
2017-08-09 21:46
he's right eoL. was great team rip 1.6 :( <3
2017-08-09 21:57
eoL didn't even play 1.6. noob
2017-08-10 00:19
xD yeah, I was about to say they where around in the 1.5 era...
2017-08-10 01:02
No. Rip gambit
2017-08-10 00:53
Faker
2017-08-09 21:07
#200
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Denmark dR_JaCkPoT 
Am I the only one sensing an exaggeration in the team atmosphere to justify his move to NaVi? They won a major ffs, how bad could it have been?
2017-08-09 22:07
$$$$
2017-08-09 22:20
Money won't be a problem for any Gambit's player after they are winning the Major. His move to Na'Vi was unexpected, for us the audience, and him. It was decided after the issues with Kani was unresolved.
2017-08-10 00:41
Depends on how big a cut the organisation takes.
2017-08-10 18:04
This +1
2017-08-09 22:58
#319
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United States lumpy seal 
The team got together behind Zeus' back and agreed to kick their Coach without talking to their IGL. Sounds pretty bad.
2017-08-10 01:36
#331
Zeus | 
Russia Klugervl 
Thats a fcking democraty
2017-08-10 02:54
#357
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United States lumpy seal 
What part of "behind his back" did you not understand. They didn't discuss it with Zeus, they discussed it amongst themselves without including Zeus in the conversation
2017-08-10 07:01
#373
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Brazil Mirekz 
well, Na'vi did the exact same thing when they decided to kick Zeus, and now he is back
2017-08-10 10:40
Navi are hardly gonna ask zeus if he wants to be kicked are they? Kicking Kane is a different issue as Zeus was still a player of the team that it would have affected and they didn't even ask for his opinion
2017-08-10 11:25
#454
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Brazil Mirekz 
no, Na'vi didn't tell Zeus that he was goin to get kicked, he heard it from someone else first.
2017-08-10 19:19
yeah but it`s a team game,and like in sports the captain must have a word ,and a heavy one,not to talk about the coach,but in cs the thing with the coach isn`t that strict when it comes to departure them,but with the igl it`s something else.besides that zeus is doing this for a long time he is one of the greatest that have been(and i didnt supported navi at any time),it`s a guy who earned his respect and maybe those from gambit didnt showed it,so democracy in a team is relative,as long as u have a captain...the referee doesnt speak with random players to calm down his guys on the pitch,he goes to te captain,or coach so.....if it`s democracy why having an igl in a team if u do by your own on the server ? maybe they took it personal cuz they didn attend the wedding ,zeus also cuz they talked behind his back ...
2017-08-10 08:38
Some inside info. All team said they will come to fan meetings in Astana and Almaty (KZ cities), but Zeus didn't come here, because he had "work to do". He didn't come to his teammate's wedding. At the same time, some people saw him in Kiev, in Na'Vi office. Maybe i may seem like an idiot with conspiracy theories, but if you are missing ur teammates wedding and going to office of guys, that once tried to ruin your career, something strange is happening.
2017-08-11 01:28
sure, but doing a vote behind your back knowing you would vote against it and it was a main reason you joined the team in the first place? sounds like the players decided they didn't need kane and zeus's opinion didn't matter, showing a lack of respect and making zeus feel like an outsider. Trying to win garners struggle, which they did which could breed resentment but still trying to attain a goal. Once that goal (the major) was achieved you no longer have that goal as a reason to focus on that resentment.
2017-08-11 03:00
#388
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Denmark dR_JaCkPoT 
"Behind Zeus' back" ... To me it sounds like Kane's kick was inevitable. Gambit players knew Zeus' stance on Kane and Zeus knew Gambit's stance on Kane. So they probably didn't invite Zeus to the talks as it was 4-1 in favor of Kane's kick, so why even bother bringing in Zeus and generate more turmoil?
2017-08-10 11:19
I don't exactly what happened, but what I personally would see as a problem, was if Zeus got to know the decision to kick Kane from Kane himself, and not from the other players.
2017-08-10 15:35
I dont exactly what happened, but what I personally would see as a problem, was if Zeus got to know the decision to kick Kane from Kane himself, and not from the other players.
2017-08-10 15:35
#509
Japan etm 
Really? Decide everything during a wedding?
2017-08-13 13:21
Did you even fucking read what he said?
2017-08-10 03:40
You don't know how those Kazakhstani weddings can get, who knows what happened there. :> They probably tried to invite Zeus's girlfriend... without Zeus. Kappa
2017-08-10 11:12
#389
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Denmark dR_JaCkPoT 
:>
2017-08-10 11:19
Did you completely skip over the fact that he said he could have saved the team if they didn't kick Kane? The atmosphere wasn't the problem here.
2017-08-10 12:45
Of course, now after that he is already signed for Na'Vi, he can say everything to not seem greedy.
2017-08-11 01:32
It doesn't really matter what he says, people are gonna put their own narrative on it anyway. Of course, money would be a big thing for him considering that he only has so many years in eSports before he is way too old to contend with younger people. That being said I think he is just extremely loyal to NaVi considering he was one of the people who helped build the entire organization. Not only that, he also probably wants to try to play with s1mple and see where he can reach with him. There are so many reasons for him to go back, money is just one of them. That being said, I believe he liked the fresh start and would have stayed with Gambit if they didn't kick Kane.
2017-08-11 12:47
True
2017-08-09 21:07
who cares, ez for navi anyways now
2017-08-09 21:07
nop
2017-08-09 21:07
#9
World xdxdd 
i see
2017-08-09 21:08
#10
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Argentina Tuber 
Good luck
2017-08-09 21:07
lost all respect
2017-08-09 21:07
#62
k0nfig | 
Denmark liNTC 
a to proc jako?
2017-08-09 21:20
hltv has the best community
2017-08-09 21:08
#42
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United States KeeBeeRRR 
Ne, bratan, sng-community luchshe ))))
2017-08-09 21:15
#97
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Moldova OptimusBlyad 
dayn shtole?
2017-08-09 21:35
pidar cyka
2017-08-09 21:42
#195
Zeus | 
Kazakhstan hoodmaN 
bazarish, yoba
2017-08-09 22:06
xD
2017-08-09 21:14
+
2017-08-09 21:17
#19
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Kazakhstan Cotn 
He did nothing for it just want you guys to know it
2017-08-09 21:08
#91
s1 | 
Armenia gr1nch 
What u mean by saying "he did nothing for it"? u mean he didnt tried to save roster or what? If u have some inside infos post it here, no point to make intrigue like pussy.
2017-08-09 21:32
#105
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Kazakhstan Cotn 
information that i got from my sources close to gambit's kazakh players is that 1) for over 10 months Kane didn't find right way how to build team, literally he did nothing for success due to lack of experience in CS:GO.He was inactive for so long and only Zeus brought him back to this game. 2) Gambit wanted to kick Kane before major that's why Zeus in his vlog said they're not going to prepare for major as he wanted to. Even 1st place on major didn't change opinion of players and org. 3)Zeus asked for 2-3x times bigger salary from Gambit after winning the major(thats only a rumor but with some proofs). Long time ago some players of na'vi said that money is the only thing that matters for Zeus. Sources tell that Zeus planned return to the na'vi anyway and he just got lucky and uses kick of Kane as the reasong for leave. Gambit org planned 2 fan meetings on 3rd and 6th of August in KZ everyone except for Zeus were there. Also hobbit had a marriage on 4th of August and again Zeus missed it. He was in Netherlands and told all fans that he has some important things to do. tl;dr He left gambit bc he wants bigger salary and uses kick of Kane as the justified reason to leave gambit
2017-08-09 21:37
#131
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Switzerland Technofied 
Fool.
2017-08-09 21:43
#145
s1 | 
Armenia gr1nch 
yeah i read this bullshit today somewhere else #1 and #2 are bullshit that we dont know, we know only one = team won a few tournaments + M A J O R, how u can say they are not a builded team after this? #3 zeus has 1year contract with gambit after navi sold him for 25k$ he joined in #25 team and make them #3, ofc he should ask for bigger salary???? everyone in gambit should do that cuz they are not tier3 anymore. its dumb to not ask for more when u won major and showed some good results. NAVI guys said zeus was bussy making some business (youtube/cyber school) and he failed in individual skill where he was not calling so they kicked him and picked better player why u are comparing that situation with navi and gambit right now? right now zeus is owner of pro100 and doing vlogs every week even at major he was doing vlogs and thats not a problem for him. fan meetings or hobbits weeding is different thing u just dont know whats going on in his personal life, so no point to talk about that.
2017-08-09 21:46
#188
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Kazakhstan Cotn 
#1 and #2 are 100% confirmed by gambit organisation they already wrote an article on russia language just wait for english one don't want to translate so much
2017-08-09 22:03
#210
s1 | 
Armenia gr1nch 
can u link me? btw my russian is better than london
2017-08-09 22:17
#213
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Kazakhstan Cotn 
sure eto zhe flag armenii? che mi srazu na russom ne obshyalis' vk.com/wall-36541347_760917
2017-08-09 22:21
#217
s1 | 
Armenia gr1nch 
tut pidori banyat esli ne po londonu spasibo za ssilku
2017-08-09 22:22
#247
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Armenia HaRRyarm 
hahahahahaha
2017-08-09 23:20
Don't know what his salary was but his contract would expire in 2 months. Don't you think that the guy who made the roaster, the team and made so much money and build fanbase he deserves more? Doesn't matter what you achieve in your life if you don't feel appreciated you will not be happy. I want to see now when everyone is negative about Zeus what will happen to Gambit and Zeus owes nothing to the org.
2017-08-09 21:50
Hooch made the roster tho
2017-08-10 02:01
#171
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World RA71M 
so what ?? he is a professional player asking for money isnt a shame
2017-08-09 21:56
so what?? hobbit adren mou have small salary but never asked for more money.. Zeus=money whore deal with it lol
2017-08-09 22:05
#193
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World RA71M 
THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO ASK FOR MORE NO ONE IS GONNA HAND IT FOR THEM WITHOUT ASKING IF U HAVE THE CHANCE TO GET PAID MORE U SHOULD TAKE IT ITS A WORK AFTER ALL
2017-08-09 22:06
Theres a saying "u cannot miss what u never had" those guys didnt feel that much money, zeus did...since money runs the world. Heck he even would sell his soul :) ppl with principles wouldnt go back to a place that kicked u. Ah well $$$
2017-08-09 22:22
#255
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Norway sparta92 
2-3 months ago, Gambit players almost got over on another org bcs of sallaries, but something went wrong that the new org couldnt buy out all players. So basically ALL THE PLAYERS WANTED MORE SALLARY
2017-08-09 23:30
#203
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Kazakhstan Cotn 
The point is that he showed other 4 players as high self-esteem faggots which don't listen the captain. They won the major they think they're gods .
2017-08-09 22:08
can confirm on #1 and #2 + zeus wanted to build the team around him and his friends, and wanted Gambit org to give him more rights like kicking certain players and getting players that he chooses himself and stuff like that. When Gambit org refused to give him god mode, he and kane founded pro100, and zeus started caring more about pro100 than Gambit. Luckily, pro100 failed to qualify, so Zeus and co. started training for major. It resulted in Gambit's win. Funniest part is that if pro100 qualified, Gambit probably wouldn't win the major.
2017-08-09 23:34
#471
KK | 
Denmark s0denone 
Yeah, that is truly hilarious. It is amazing that they founded pro100 10 years after it was created, though. Sounds like more Kazakh horsemanure.
2017-08-11 07:46
Ok, i used wrong word, it was relaunched by Zeus and Kane. But it doesn't change my point in any way. At the time when all this happened, pro100 was dead as an org.
2017-08-11 13:10
#483
KK | 
Denmark s0denone 
:-)
2017-08-11 14:31
m8, even if the money issue is true, they got a legendary captain for 25k bucks! this is nothing compare to what they earned since zeus came to gambit
2017-08-10 01:12
#21
swag | 
Hungary SelevenX 
rip
2017-08-09 21:08
#23
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United States jekl 
PogChamp
2017-08-09 21:10
bigger gold digger than emilia hult
2017-08-09 21:10
#436
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Hungary Shaperz 
did you even read the article? :D
2017-08-10 15:50
#455
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Serbia banzae 
That swedish chick who dates dev1ce now?
2017-08-10 19:23
#27
oskar | 
Ireland sk0ffin 
respek for zeus, he loyal to the end, a real man!
2017-08-09 21:10
#323
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Bahrain picklesbois 
yeah, respek not respect, kek
2017-08-10 01:48
k a p p a
2017-08-10 12:52
#30
JW | 
Sweden peterrrr10 
cool story bro =) traitor
2017-08-09 21:11
#63
k0nfig | 
Denmark liNTC 
Gambit is traitor, but he is not
2017-08-09 21:20
#101
JW | 
Sweden peterrrr10 
ur mom
2017-08-09 21:36
#128
k0nfig | 
Denmark liNTC 
Very bad joke you fucking swedish moron... read the statement you fucking cunt Your IQ is actually 20... not more
2017-08-09 21:43
#132
JW | 
Sweden peterrrr10 
yeah and u still believe in santa. obv he will create a story =)
2017-08-09 21:44
#134
k0nfig | 
Denmark liNTC 
lul, that nonsense omg... you are so retarded
2017-08-09 21:44
#111
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North America Oboe 
+1
2017-08-09 21:39
Zeus isn't the good guy in this story unfortunately. He wanted to leave before the major and there is some more shit that should remain between the players. And Kane kick is just a convenient reason to say in public, makes him look loyal to his friend. After the major, of course, he wanted to stay, but the rest of the guys didn't want to play with a person like that. I was very disappointed when I heard what was actually going on because I considered him a legend and had huge respect for him :(
2017-08-09 23:11
#437
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Hungary Shaperz 
why, what was actually going on?
2017-08-10 15:56
Posted twice wtf
2017-08-09 23:12
#254
k0nfig | 
Denmark liNTC 
twice?? wut?
2017-08-09 23:30
I posted it twice and edited the second one -_-
2017-08-09 23:37
#404
k0nfig | 
Denmark liNTC 
lul, stane se xD
2017-08-10 12:04
FuckZeus Nonsense
2017-08-09 21:11
#32
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Poland Plonek 
Zeus da best
2017-08-09 21:12
#322
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Bahrain picklesbois 
from the bottom
2017-08-10 01:47
lost all respect to zeus
2017-08-09 21:12
#66
k0nfig | 
Denmark liNTC 
posmotri video ot raiza ili ceh9 dolboeb
2017-08-09 21:21
ebat tut bespalevnyh Sngshnikov mnogo hahah
2017-08-09 21:40
+
2017-08-09 22:14
#367
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Europe JANPAN 
pacani s cis.go vezde
2017-08-10 08:55
#201
ceh9 | 
Russia ozzss 
nihuya ti zamaskirovalsa pod datchanina))))
2017-08-09 22:07
#204
k0nfig | 
Denmark liNTC 
eto ja specalno ctoby evropejci oxuevali
2017-08-09 22:08
Ceh9 drug Zeusa. Rise fanboy Navi, i ne osobo lyubit Gambit. Konechno oni budut za Zeusa v takom konflikte.
2017-08-09 23:39
#35
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Andorra TYZ4 
So its Kane that is the problem.
2017-08-09 21:12
#67
k0nfig | 
Denmark liNTC 
+
2017-08-09 21:21
#36
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United States gtmaniacmda 
"The guys had started to become world stars." >insert link to AdreN rap video<
2017-08-09 21:12
ahahahahaha
2017-08-09 22:39
#38
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Turkey hwop 
HAHAHA GAMBIIIT
2017-08-09 21:14
Gj to zeus for being able to adjust to all these different team changes over the last period of his career. +1
2017-08-09 21:14
Well said +1
2017-08-10 17:46
#40
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Latvia pumasiK 
Yass
2017-08-09 21:14
#41
HObbit | 
Spain Alser 
I want to hear the other point of view from the Gambit guys
2017-08-09 21:14
#162
AdreN | 
Kazakhstan Aiomie 
They won't talk about it probably. Adren said, "time will show"
2017-08-09 21:51
#45
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Faroe Islands Arismendi 
Cool story #moneytalks
2017-08-09 21:15
#142
k0nfig | 
Denmark liNTC 
lol omg..
2017-08-09 21:46
#161
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Faroe Islands Arismendi 
yes please tell me it's not true
2017-08-09 21:51
#164
k0nfig | 
Denmark liNTC 
Zeus leaves Gambit due to Kane... so #moneytalks is fucking spam
2017-08-09 21:53
#178
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Faroe Islands Arismendi 
And you believe him,congrats
2017-08-09 21:58
#180
k0nfig | 
Denmark liNTC 
Dont be rude if you know shit about whats happening. Zeus left because coach of gambit was kicked and they are good friends so zeus left only because Kane
2017-08-09 21:59
#228
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Estonia swag420weed 
Kane did nothing for the team. Zeus bff with kane. Kane kicked, zeus also left
2017-08-09 22:47
#252
k0nfig | 
Denmark liNTC 
Did nothing? its nonsense xDDDDDDD
2017-08-09 23:27
vk.com/wall-36541347_760917 Esli smotret s drugoi storony, vse vstayet na svoi mesta.
2017-08-10 00:05
#403
k0nfig | 
Denmark liNTC 
Gambit oni idioti... oni vyjgrali PGL Krakow... togda pocemu nedat jemu jesho odin shanc?? Prosto tupo oni vse eto zdelali
2017-08-10 11:59
Nu da, tebe prowe obvinit Gambit i opravdat Zeusa, potomu chto ty sluwaew Zeusa i ne sluwaew Gambit. Na samom dele lyudi ne protiv, esli Zeus uhodit iz Gambit. Gambit mojet byt emu i ne podhodit. Oni protiv togo, chto on uhodit v Na'Vi. - Esli by on uwel v inaktiv, vse by skazali okey. - Uwel by v druguyu timu (ne Na'Vi), vse by skazali okey. - Uwel by zanimatsya delami pro100, vse by skazali okey. No on uwel v Na'Vi. Imenno eto lyudi osujdayut. I kogda tut adekvatniye lyudi logicho sprawivayut, nahuya on powel v Na'Vi, ty rasskazyvayew nam prichiny, pochemu on uwel iz Gambit. LOGIC? I vse lyudi logichno predpolagayut, chto esli chelovek, karieru kotoromu uje pytalis zaruinit Na'Vi, vozvrawatsya obratno v Na'Vi, tut zamewani babki. I tut uje Gambit ne pri chem. Gambit mogut byt i ChSV, i kak org mojet byt otstoy, no Zeus idet za babkami, i eto srazu vsem ponyatno. + Zeus ne prosto uwel po mujski, on popytalsya obosrat igrokov Gambit, hotya sam chasto govorit, chto sor iz izby ne vynosyat. Da kogda Na'Vi ob nego podterelis, on ne tak silno obsiral Na'Vi kak seichas obsiraet Gambit. Ya logichno obyasnil svoyu tochku zreniya, popytaysya i ty.
2017-08-10 15:19
#438
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Hungary Shaperz 
"Dont be rude if you know shit about whats happening" You don't know shit either, you just blindly believe every single word Zeus said in this interview and you insult everyone who has different opinion.
2017-08-10 15:59
#181
k0nfig | 
Denmark liNTC 
You are so stupid
2017-08-09 21:59
#184
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Faroe Islands Arismendi 
yes you know exactly what happened and l'm stupid
2017-08-09 22:01
#197
k0nfig | 
Denmark liNTC 
probably :D
2017-08-09 22:06
#202
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Faroe Islands Arismendi 
yes
2017-08-09 22:07
#205
k0nfig | 
Denmark liNTC 
:(
2017-08-09 22:08
#206
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Faroe Islands Arismendi 
:)
2017-08-09 22:09
#294
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Europe skelteR 
You work for free?
2017-08-10 00:38
#47
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Portugal dracø 
If you read between the lines you'll see $€££$€£$€£€£$ all over the place.
2017-08-09 21:15
s1mple is going to likely be the primary awper for na'vi now, which will NOT end well, he is overly aggressive and though he makes great plays from time to time he can put his team into some seriously bad situations like he did with liquid at points.
2017-08-09 21:16
#103
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Russia OlegShev 
"I'll find a way for s1mple," Zeus says
2017-08-09 21:36
#118
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North America Oboe 
Kenny and JW are aggressive awpers and they're among the best in the world
2017-08-09 21:41
#226
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United States Fauxcus 
JW is among the best in the world? What year are you living in?
2017-08-09 22:46
hahahahhahahahauha you raped him
2017-08-09 23:35
#363
DAVEY | 
Netherlands FLCEVY5 
JW is currently the best player on Fnatic.
2017-08-10 08:36
#439
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Hungary Shaperz 
ecks deeee
2017-08-10 16:01
#492
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North America Oboe 
JW is easily top 10 best awpers
2017-08-12 01:01
#371
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Denmark Xipingu 
Yeah JW is among the best, that is why they currently go out in groups every 2 out of 3 tournaments. Nice b8
2017-08-10 09:42
#493
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North America Oboe 
The team doing poorly doesn't necessarily mean he is doing poorly
2017-08-12 01:01
#502
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Denmark Xipingu 
But imo, he is. Not against tier 2 tho
2017-08-12 19:50
#503
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North America Oboe 
Sorta true. FNC reks t2 but can't win against t1 consistently.
2017-08-12 19:56
#505
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Denmark Xipingu 
Exactly. JW is not the only at fault though, that much I can admit.
2017-08-12 21:49
#508
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North America Oboe 
Tbh JW is the carry and everyone else needs to step it up
2017-08-13 00:00
#511
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Denmark Xipingu 
He is the best of the worst, so to speak, yes. I do believe a change is coming though, Fnatic academy just pulled out of ESEA Premier to avoid the roster lock, so I am pretty sure at least Golden is going to the main roster.
2017-08-13 20:57
#49
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Romania Tise 
"this is work and I must look at professionalism and work relationship. Personal actions should be left in the individuals' conscience". Something that retards wont understand. )))
2017-08-09 21:17
"I warned them I would leave with him"
2017-08-09 21:40
#122
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North America Oboe 
+1
2017-08-09 21:42
#119
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North America Oboe 
+1
2017-08-09 21:41
#50
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United Kingdom AlywOw 
Wouldn't be surprised if the whole story behind is just a huge lie. I can't believe it at all, also why he didn't attend the wedding at first place?
2017-08-09 21:18
Lying would be the most retarded thing ever, I would be REALLY surprised if he lied because it makes no sense at all, the other teammates could just say that he was lying and how it was really. "also why he didn't attend the wedding at first place?" Maybe he had some kind of problems? Not like he has to tell us his whole personal life.
2017-08-09 21:25
The other guys will just let it go and not talk shit about him as he does because they are well-mannered.
2017-08-09 23:16
How does being "well-mannered" has anything to do with telling the truth about how things really did go? flaming on Zeus makes about zero sense.
2017-08-09 23:50
Being well-mannered makes you not start a shitstorm like zeus did with this interview. They will just let it go and focus on the important thing, which for them is playing. Zeus is more socially active and has to create hype around himself.
2017-08-10 02:58
Or, it is just true, and you can't handle it.
2017-08-10 00:54
I know the truth since one of them is a friend of mine. It's just sad for me to see people talking shit about them because zeus is playing a victim, while he is a reason why it all happened.
2017-08-10 03:04
0/8
2017-08-10 07:20
#372
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Denmark Xipingu 
Suuuuuuure you are. 0/8 m8
2017-08-10 09:53
2017-08-10 16:29
#472
KK | 
Denmark s0denone 
Hi, little Johnny. I am sure mou loves you to spread unsubstantiated rumours about him, not going into enough depth tobe anything other than a distraction and little bitch.
2017-08-11 07:50
What rumour about him did i spread exactly? I said this interview is full of shit and ppl shouldn't believe everything they're told and hate on the rest of the team for no reason. Start making sense pls
2017-08-11 08:13
#484
KK | 
Denmark s0denone 
If you don't want to go into detail about anything you know (if you actually know anything at all) then don't start spouting shit anywhere. Either back it up, go into depth or say nothing.
2017-08-11 14:32
So first you bash me for spreading rumors and after that you tell me to spread rumors or gtfo. You seem lost
2017-08-11 15:32
#488
KK | 
Denmark s0denone 
No... You either go all the way with your gossip, or you don't spread it at all. You don't say "I know for a fact Zeus is just playing the victim" and then refuse to add anything on top of it. Likely you don't know shit and just want to be interesting :)
2017-08-11 17:46
I don't know who you think you are but I honestly don't give a flying fuck about you being interested in me. As I already said I just don't like the undeserved hate that the rest of the guys are getting right now.
2017-08-11 18:38
#490
KK | 
Denmark s0denone 
Yea, you're an absolute nobody and probably got the pic with mou randomly as i u run into him, getting ur fucking kebab. gtfo
2017-08-11 19:09
If you tell everything you know about your friends' life to some random fucks on the internet you're a sad person. If they will want to share it people they will do it themselves, I value friendship more than respect of some random douchebag. Feel free to hate on.
2017-08-12 04:17
#495
KK | 
Denmark s0denone 
Apparently you don't, you fucking idiot, when you started spouting this shit already. You are just another attention-whoring nobody. Probably not a lot going for you in your real life. Sad days.
2017-08-12 11:57
If I wanted to get attention i would spam hltv with -zeus threads 2 days after the major, because it was already pretty much confirmed at that time. Funny how you are trying to insult me with "nobody" while i never claimed to be "someone". And i love how you make all these assumptions about my real life not based on anything, typical hltv douchebag. Done with you, i'm not that good in talking shit to people i don't know, so you obviously win in that subject.
2017-08-12 19:38
#504
KK | 
Denmark s0denone 
I see. Thankyouandhaveaniceday.
2017-08-12 20:36
#497
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Denmark Xipingu 
Right, that still doesn't prove your claim though. Also I am not hating om Gambit, but Zeus doesn't just spam out lies, he isn't the type to do so. What he said was most likely true, but so what? If Gambit can't make do without, they will be the ones people laugh at. We'll see. Who knows
2017-08-12 14:10
I don't think you know what type he is. Not saying that i do because i don't know him in person, but from what i was told him in his vlogs and him irl are quite different people. I actually think and hope that this move will benefit both teams.
2017-08-12 19:45
#512
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Denmark Xipingu 
I am pretty sure I got him figured out, but who knows, people change. Until definitively confirmed wrong, I can't say I don't believe him - albeit yes, moneywise, it does benefit him. Gambit won't be tier 3 just because Zeus leaves, I doubt the players lose knowledge of strategy creation that quickly, they gotta have learned something.
2017-08-13 23:01
I would imagine that it was because Kane was too hung over or something
2017-08-09 21:41
#127
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North America Oboe 
I don't think the wedding in specific was the big deal, it was that everyone was there but Zeus so that happened to be the place where they talked it all out.
2017-08-09 21:43
#52
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Sweden 133665 
Really the community is two faced this was pretty much a blatant kick just like with Navi. If someone says to you we're kicking the coach and you said you'd leave but they did it anyway. Money is a factor lol??? Supposedly he got between $80,000-$100,000 Niko got $500,000 and no one complained about that lol these faggots need a life
2017-08-09 21:18
Niko didnt get 500K. Mouz did
2017-08-09 22:37
+ He probably gets some extra cash for leaving Gambit + I remember when Zeus once said, that Na'Vi is an org, that is able to do the trick, when it is needed.
2017-08-09 23:46
Nobody asked the important question: WHY do they wanted to kick this Kane dude so badly. All we have now is Zeus' side of the story.
2017-08-09 21:18
4/5 of the players, as well as management didn't like Kane. All players besides Zeus didn't respect him as a coach and thought he was essentially useless. It's childish to put your friendship ahead of the team.
2017-08-09 21:19
B1ad3 and markeloff said that kane was a good coach in f3
2017-08-09 23:17
What works for one team doesn't necessarily work for another
2017-08-09 23:49
#340
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Brazil hsk- 
to my point of view.. the other guys just let the fame talk, they felt arrogant after winning the major and probably thought `im the best player in the world, i don`t need a fucking coach`.
2017-08-10 04:27
Lmao no, they want a new coach because no one liked Kane.
2017-08-10 04:36
There is a statement on Gambit's website. It looks like everyone in the team thought he is useless. Zeus must really owe him something big, if he cares more about Kane's salary than winning.
2017-08-09 21:26
Maybe he is the only one that knows what happened to Kane in his personal life and wanted to help him.
2017-08-10 00:57
I think allowing a better coach to join the team when 4/5 players don't like your current coach is something in your power to save the roster.
2017-08-09 21:18
This. I really wanna know more about Kane from Gambit and anyway. Who is this guy? Is this another Shox shmitzzz afair? Veeery professional then Kappa
2017-08-09 21:22
It's basically shox smithzz. Kane is a very old friend of Zeus, and nobody else on the team wanted him as coach (including the team's management). From what we've heard from ceh9 and others there was very little respect for Kane from the players.
2017-08-09 21:24
Well, smithzz is at least an ex-pro in CSGO, and I wouldn't put coaching and analysis beyond his ability. Kane never played CSGO, and suddenly started coaching in 2016, after having pretty much nothing to do with pro CS for 6 years.
2017-08-09 21:44
#199
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Ukraine petruska 
Before na vi 1.6 era (when zeus what IGL), he played on pro100 team (thats why he names his team the same) and in pro100 (when zeus was young) their IGL was Kane. I am sure that zeus took some skill from him also i was very hyped when heard it So zeus is IGL's skill partly came from his old capitan (u can see Kane here youtube.com/watch?v=ulf8imgE0Lo )
2017-08-09 22:08
#88
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Romania Tise 
Basically Kane's role in gambit was like Starix's role when Zeus was still in Na'Vi. What's so wrong about it ?
2017-08-09 21:30
lmao not at all. Starix was in game leading NaVi towards the end of Zeus's tenure, and from what we can tell had the respect of the players. Kane was not in game leading (coaching rule), and from what we have heard did not contribute much, did not create great team chemistry (team arguing at 13-12 vs Astralis for example), and did not have the respect of the players.
2017-08-09 21:32
#89
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Romania Tise 
Plus he said from the very moment he joined Gambit - Kane sticks with him.
2017-08-09 21:31
That's childish as fuck.
2017-08-09 21:33
#379
dv | 
United Kingdom dv-_- 
I don't really see how that's childish. If zeus knows he works best with Kane, I don't really see it being an issue. Plus it was a term that Gambit agreed to at the start of Zeus contract, so kicking him was breaking that agreement. Also, they won the major, so clearly they were doing something right?
2017-08-10 11:00
#125
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Brazil IguiN 
Please, Zeus just gave a major to Gambit.
2017-08-09 21:43
Yes, Zeus was the only reason Gambit won the major.
2017-08-09 21:43
#148
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Brazil IguiN 
Gambit was a Tier2 team without him and they're going back there. Just wait Mr.
2017-08-09 21:47
Gambit was a tier 2 team when they had fucking Spaze instead of hobbit. Do you really think Zeus alone improved Gambit? Hobbit was a massive upgrade over spaze.
2017-08-09 21:47
#157
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Brazil IguiN 
Yes, i think. Gambit is nothing without Zeus and they will get destroyed however Na'Vi will certainly upgrade.
2017-08-09 21:49
lol you're retarded
2017-08-09 21:50
#169
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Brazil IguiN 
Let's see.
2017-08-09 21:56
Out of argument?
2017-08-10 00:59
correction: Gambit was a tier 3 team before Zeus/Kane and they're going back there.
2017-08-10 00:36
#320
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Brazil IguiN 
+1
2017-08-10 01:40
#167
AdreN | 
Kazakhstan Aiomie 
This. But money wins majority of times. Kick story too convenient to be true.
2017-08-09 21:55
From what I've heard from insiders it's true.
2017-08-09 22:04
#55
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Russia c0ldl3ss 
"Personal actions should be left in the individuals' conscience" ^ ^Remember these words when you are thrown out of the team again due to lack of results. Disappointed.
2017-08-09 21:20
eoL elemeNt, such a handsome guy :D too bad he left the scene quite fast
2017-08-09 21:19
fisker and element was the biggest threats back on 03
2017-08-09 21:53
soon i'll be the greatest threat :)
2017-08-10 00:22
Sign my profile so when u make it big i can show everyone
2017-08-10 11:08
#473
KK | 
Denmark s0denone 
No. tHreat already exists. He is Swedish.
2017-08-11 07:53
#57
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Czech Republic Limewax 
wow, this is some sad news.. wtf
2017-08-09 21:19
#59
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Ukraine PPRROPAGANDA 
NAVI <3
2017-08-09 21:19
#64
fnx | 
Portugal lovessd 
GodZeus
2017-08-09 21:20
#70
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Other TanriQQ 
"Personal actions should be left in the individuals' conscience" "I warned them that I would leave with him"
2017-08-09 21:22
Yeah...
2017-08-09 21:38
#154
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North America Oboe 
What he means is he isn't going to hold personal grudges over professional decisions that were made in the past. That doesn't mean he can't make his own personal decisions, even if they do relate to his profession.
2017-08-09 21:49
#71
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Russia Leading23 
Cherez polgoda opyat` kiknut)))))))
2017-08-09 21:22
#74
k0nfig | 
Denmark liNTC 
uzhe ne v etot raz
2017-08-09 21:24
#100
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Moldova OptimusBlyad 
haha n1 bratan
2017-08-09 21:36
The remaining 4 players from Gambit are retarded lol. Thinking they can be successful without Zeus lmao. Back to being a shitty T2 team.
2017-08-09 21:24
X-GOD will make Gambit great again ;-)
2017-08-09 21:50
#170
AdreN | 
Kazakhstan Aiomie 
Yeah. But. This story is too cool "Personal actions should be left in the individuals' conscience" "I warned them that I would leave with him"
2017-08-09 21:56
Irrelevant causal and result. Try to spam this again as your argument.
2017-08-10 01:01
Eolithic was 1.5 though :)
2017-08-09 21:24
#219
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Norway Mickey Mouse 
and 1.6
2017-08-09 22:25
The "lineup" he refers to was 1.5 with element and co, when "fake flash" from a smoke got invented from elements 1v1 against heaton. remember?? And no eolithic didnt play 1.6 maybe thinkin of NoA.
2017-08-10 22:50
poor hobbit and adren,they deserve a better team...
2017-08-09 21:24
And they will build it without team chemistry ruiners like kane, I hope
2017-08-10 12:58
you definitely did a good job then, hopefully with zeus being full time IGL again NaVi should be able to fuck shit up
2017-08-09 21:25
#81
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Palestine hevCS 
Traitor
2017-08-09 21:25
#99
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Moldova OptimusBlyad 
retard
2017-08-09 21:35
Welcome back Zeus.
2017-08-09 21:26
#84
Albania ^aj 
It's a fucking shame. Seems like the children in Gambit got too big for their boots after the Major win. Back to tier9 they'll go.
2017-08-09 21:28
zeus is a liar. he wants more money and gambit cant afford it but navi can and after that zeus told this fake story about kane and shit
2017-08-09 21:32
Once i see someone contradict zeus i will believe it.
2017-08-09 21:47
Tbh if Gambit couldn't secure more sponsorships after their team was top 10 for a few months. that's their fault. I don't buy the whole "I felt with my friend" stuff, but the Gambit guys deserved more compensation.
2017-08-09 23:47
gambit was in top 10 for 1 month after they won major
2017-08-10 00:04
They dipped in and out of top 10 a lot. They never attended many events, but they did well at the ones they did attend so they dipped into the top 10 a lot. They were essentially always a top 10 team.
2017-08-10 01:14
#296
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Europe skelteR 
If he wants more money, you give him more money. He won a major for you, he deserves it. All player in the team do. It's just how it works
2017-08-10 00:41
#382
dv | 
United Kingdom dv-_- 
+1 I can only assume the people criticising him wanting a pay rise after winning a major are unemployed, and have no idea how the real world works.
2017-08-10 11:04
#394
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Europe skelteR 
Kids living of their parents money
2017-08-10 11:25
#474
KK | 
Denmark s0denone 
Very well said. Being a pro gamer means you have a short shelflife. Needing to maximize profits while the window of opportunity is open is so fucking normal. Financially dimwitted and irresponsible people object because they are dumb as shit.
2017-08-11 07:57
I hope they can't even get out of groups and suck hard. and they kick zeus again ahahahaha
2017-08-09 21:28
#86
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Norway Shaquelele 
eoLithic <3
2017-08-09 21:29
gambit getting arrogant and cocky, they don't understand what zeus was doing for them and the impact he had on the team, hObbit steps up and now he thinks he's coldzera or niko ? gambit will crumble.. as far as navi goes.. they will rise again. zeus is going to bring navi to where they belong ! gl hf
2017-08-09 21:29
#179
AdreN | 
Kazakhstan Aiomie 
Whole story is a lie. Hobbit is pretty humble person. Same is Adren. And Dosia is most humble. Zeus said "Personal actions should be left in the individuals' conscience" "I warned them that I would leave with him" Now you think yourself
2017-08-09 21:58
im still gonna stick with my opinion that they became cocky and think they don't need zeus.ty
2017-08-09 22:40
al si glup :)
2017-08-09 23:32
ty, samo sam cekao oficialni pecat genija "uchiyame" ! sada mogu da umrem..
2017-08-09 23:39
vidi se da si neobrazovan druze, imas ego,mislis da si pametnjakovich, ne prifatas tudze mislenje, imas pregolemu samodoverbu. tipican seljacki balkanac.
2017-08-09 23:45
nemas ti pojma, imam svoje misljenje, a ti bi mogao da prestanes da osudjujes ljude na netu i da sa jednim komentarom ti nekom samouvereno odredjujes kakva je ta osoba. takodje si me nazvao glupim i posle mene nazivas pametnjakovicem.. hah vazi druze samo ti uzivaj u svojoj karijeri kao internet psiholog. poy
2017-08-10 00:03
hah svakako da svaki covek ima vlastito mislenje o nestama. iznervirao si me gore u kontekstu; lik ti objasnava da mozda gresis da sogledas fakte, a ti kao demek ubedjen. nema veze, nema potrebe od svadje,ko gi jebe svih :D
2017-08-10 00:31
slazem se :D
2017-08-10 00:39
eoL BibleThump
2017-08-09 21:32
#92
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Netherlands Averzwijn 
You have to defend your fellow countrymen
2017-08-09 21:32
nice story
2017-08-09 21:34
#98
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France StickyRice 
Some idiots call Neymar a "snake" a "traitor" but WTF Zeus. I don't know everything in the story, but seriously respect yourself and/or respect Gambit. You have been kicked from NaVi, make Gambit win a Major and then you leave Gambit 2 weeks after winning the Major lul. This is absolutely retarded, CSGO can't criticize mainstream sports, they are the same/even worse in those transfert between teams mentality.
2017-08-09 21:35
#104
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Palestine hevCS 
+1
2017-08-09 21:36
#112
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France StickyRice 
Saw your #81 message, yeah Zeus is probably a traitor who wanted more money that Gambit offered him, and he probably doesn't have enough respect for himself being fine going back to NaVI after being kicked lul. You win a Major, why would you ever go to a dead team that kicked you, this has to be a money story made possible by Zeus' greed i guess.
2017-08-09 21:39
#102
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Moldova OptimusBlyad 
BRATAN POKASZHI NA SHTO SPOSOBEN <3
2017-08-09 21:36
"I compare us to a team from 1.6 called «eoLithic», they also played really good for around a year and fell apart because of similar sh*t." eoL FeelsBadMan
2017-08-09 21:37
#108
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Germany ConAction 
Good move tbh!
2017-08-09 21:37
Let's get NaVi up there! gl
2017-08-09 21:39
#114
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Kazakhstan Jeremy9292 
twofaced
2017-08-09 21:40
#187
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Russia r4jkkYNWA 
mad cuz gambit tier 3 now till disband ? :>
2017-08-09 22:03
inb4 Navi loses all tournaments and don't even qualifies to the next major
2017-08-10 13:01
Traitor Zeus. Poor Gambit..
2017-08-09 21:40
#116
HObbit | 
Belgium adox3D 
4th kazakh incoming lol. ezez
2017-08-09 21:40
#124
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Russia 50bombs 
navi backstab you - it is a work everything can happen so i go to navi. gambit kick kane - no guys fuck you i cant play without my friend kane anymore lul
2017-08-09 21:42
I guess he just wants someone to pay Kane's salary, and Na'Vi agreed to do it.
2017-08-09 21:47
#384
dv | 
United Kingdom dv-_- 
Surely if he knows he works well with Kane, as proved by winning this major, then sticking with him is the most professionally sound decision he could possible make?
2017-08-10 11:06
navi to win next major
2017-08-09 21:45
#136
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Europe Trey7 
ez navi
2017-08-09 21:45
#137
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United States destrossive 
eoLithic! Naikon, DarK, knoxville, Luke, elemeNt and XeqtR!
2017-08-09 21:45
That was a team! Everybody loved them
2017-08-10 05:24
Damien was probably the most talented aim wise of all of them, too bad he stopped playing so soon. But by mentioning eoL, our biggest CS pride, norwegians will swamp the comments like brazilians when SK win something.
2017-08-10 15:34
Laaawl! Xeqtr and element never played together, eoL never won anything, and norways biggest cs pride must of been team9 with junglebobo, real(1 of the sickest players ever), prb (same as real) and some other dudes :) IMO
2017-08-10 23:04
#475
KK | 
Denmark s0denone 
Omg junglebobo lmfao Did you google that or could you actually remember?? Team9 good times lol
2017-08-11 07:59
Hehe y google is ur friend now everything is there. But i actually remember, like i remember titans with a 15-16y old boyd named one of the worlds biggest talents, drally KK some other dudes and the talent whimp. but t9 was always swedish teAms with vesslan &co
2017-08-11 08:37
#485
KK | 
Denmark s0denone 
whimp was 15(edit: or even 14, I'm not sure) when he came into the scene as a pro player, i remember they couldn't compete with full lineup in a ESWC (I think) cause he wasn't 16 lol the SK, NiP, team9 etc. good times man, good times!
2017-08-11 14:35
Ye cpl dallas :D the most prestige LAN at the time hehe it was the Clanbase time, when u fucked up school and life just to play all night hehe
2017-08-11 20:58
eoL is the story of missed opportunities and what could have been. Team9,especially NoA and even Catchgamer won more than eoL if i remember correctly. Most notable was their Mindtrek win in Finland. But the immens talent in the eoL roster was beyond any of those teams ( except for real), and is the most talented team of norway of all time. They defeated SK, the superior n1 team in the world on almost every occation, just to bomb out vs shaGuars team "unusual" aggressive playstyle in CPL. And the team broke up. And yes, junglebobos clutch vs SK on cbble was epic.
2017-08-14 11:52
Ye maybe more famous roster but team9 (catchgamers were the same lineup if im not mistaken?). NoA was first an american mix, with shag method and some other guys (dont remember all the lineup switches) and then a swedish norweigan mix with kixer speedi. So noa was never a norweigan team so to speak :)
2017-08-14 22:08
And yea sry but eoL was never better than NoA on paper or achieved more. NoA was sick lineups all the way.
2017-08-14 22:18
NoA had different lineups yes. But i was talking about the lineup with elemeNt, XeqtR, Naikon, method and shaGuar. All of norway followed it as "our" team. But your right, not fully norwegian.. but close enough to take alittle credit ;D. It was created by bsl (norwegians/north americans) with originally bsl,naikon, knoxville,method and shag. Later element, xeqtr, naikon, shag, method. Then the nor/swe mix with xeqtr, DarK, red, speedi, kixer. (even fisker and quick were briefly members). And later again an nor/danish mix. No, catch gamer and team9 were rivals but your right that some team9 members ended up in catch. It was bsl team with juve9le,DaY, juzam, zevy(from early team9) before later bringin in real and Oops from team9 pluss Naikon. While team9 was junglebobo, real, raven, xione, jeagern(then later OmeN) and most sucsessfull roster: jungle, real, oops, prb, xione. Sick roster wich was better than catch gamer. xione was also sick player.
2017-08-15 15:51
It was a time norwegian teams could compete with sweden and the rest of the world. A time wich is long gone ;)
2017-08-15 15:42
And again i don't exactly disagree with you. On paper NoA was as good or maybe better than eoL because of methods insanse aim(eventho xeqtr forbid him to use nades because he was so bad at it) and shaguars aggressive awp. They were certanly more successful. But as a fully norwegian lineup. eoL is the most talented norwegian team of all time and should have shrugged off the CPL fluke and continued the path for the nr 1 spot, because they would have eventually after brought in XeqtR and DarK from SK.
2017-08-15 16:04
Yee it was times! Haha not mainstream as now, the age limit has gone down to 9y old cs "players" before it was rare to see ppl under 15-16y performing. I liked the norweigan players though it was a good era, hope they can come back someday(like the swedish scene) but its rare now to see a team with players from same contry, before it was always 5-6 good friends IRL becoming great together, now it dosnt seem like they even know eachother outside the game (maybe thats why they switch teams so often aswell) :( rip cs
2017-08-19 11:42
So stronk cuz they were 6 lul
2017-08-10 18:34
gain respect for zeus. you should put ego aside in business.
2017-08-09 21:46
Damn, mad respect for Zeus. Great interview. I'm really hoping he can save Na'Vi.
2017-08-09 21:46
2017-08-09 21:46
SHut the fuck up favela monkey
2017-08-09 22:00
cry me a river LMAO ez report =p gl next acc
2017-08-09 22:16
2017-08-09 21:47
meh feels kinda disgusting reading some of those judgmental comments / threads. i suppose i can find some comfort knowing most of those are written by either trolls or simpletons.
2017-08-09 21:53
+1
2017-08-10 01:06
#466
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Singapore Nephalith 
You are not alone my friend. Just know that 90% of HLTVians are still living in their parents basement. They think they know everything more than the players themselves.
2017-08-11 02:00
#168
JW | 
Sweden peterrrr10 
haha thats some next level shit from ZeuS. he secures that NaVi wont win anything as a revenge xDDDDDDDDD
2017-08-09 21:55
Starix, c'mon down! You are now apart of Gambit! Makes sense to me to add him to this roster.
2017-08-09 21:57
#174
steel | 
Belarus Ruble 
you cant fool us peanut brain zeus you are a capitalist money whore
2017-08-09 21:58
As he mentioned good old eolithic with of knoxville, Naikon, Luke, Damien and element that was the cs I remember :)
2017-08-09 21:58
#185
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Poland Marcines 
vp guys said gambit players dont care about practice, so i'm not surprised tbh
2017-08-09 22:02
#186
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Malaysia phyzell 
Yeah, do an interview with Eolithic's former squad. Where the fuck are they? What shit happened back then?
2017-08-09 22:02
cry is cheap gambit fans who believed they would win shit after the major
2017-08-09 22:06
zeus "two faced" toledo
2017-08-09 22:06
#207
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Ukraine TheUkrainian 
Commentators who wrote that Zeus had betrayed Gambit are idiots. LuL.
2017-08-09 22:15
Shoulda went to the wedding u fucks
2017-08-09 22:20
No more party for Gambit.
2017-08-09 22:21
#218
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Argentina pepaqq 
JUDAS!!!
2017-08-09 22:23
GL at Navi, thx for this major run, that was a great moment.
2017-08-09 22:28
Hahaha go to tier 3 again.. This guy is an asshole.
2017-08-09 22:44
amazing interview. GOD Zeus welcome back!
2017-08-09 22:47
God Zeus. Gogogo! Make NaVi great again!
2017-08-09 22:49
great interview, gotta love zeus.
2017-08-09 22:49
+1
2017-08-09 22:50
#232
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Slovakia Legeden 
Can't wait to see who was right or wrong ... Zeus and Kane vs rest of Gambit ... good luck to both of them
2017-08-09 22:53
#233
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Bulgaria Gago02 
Navi top 2 after astralis when the tournaments starts
2017-08-09 22:55
#235
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United States lionheart17 
2017-08-09 22:58
ZeuS and FalleN are the same twofaceds who only care about money backstabing their "friends"
2017-08-09 22:59
nt FalleN
2017-08-09 23:21
Gambit welcome back to tier3
2017-08-09 23:04
:(
2017-08-09 23:07
#246
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Ireland Retrofig 
-1
2017-08-09 23:19
Zeus think this major was a fluke, that's why he left
2017-08-09 23:20
Immortals 2nd at major was fluke, did not beat anyone good to get there.
2017-08-10 07:25
GOD Zeus
2017-08-09 23:21
#251
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Kazakhstan hypraaxfnx 
Zeus is a fucking brain duuude say what ever you want :)
2017-08-09 23:26
#267
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Norway sparta92 
RIP Gambit anyway...
2017-08-09 23:41
#385
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Kazakhstan hypraaxfnx 
i know but i like more gambit than navi
2017-08-10 11:07
everything about money. cancer game cancer community more cancer
2017-08-09 23:29
#400
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Denmark Xipingu 
Funny, all professional games are like this. So are IRL sports. You would be retarded to think otherwise lol
2017-08-10 11:44
masons made this shit. no medium class anymore. Rich or poor.
2017-08-10 12:50
#256
HeatoN | 
Russia XyetoN 
What Zeus gonna do when Na`Vi kicks Kane
2017-08-09 23:30
Nothing, because Kane is just a cover up, he wanted to go back to Na'Vi, and he did. -seized -flamie Incoming after 2-3 months.
2017-08-09 23:57
#259
NiKo | 
Poland Jaruzel 
Hi, Gambit! Bye, Gambit!
2017-08-09 23:32
#266
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Norway sparta92 
Gl Zeus I believe in you and Navi Make Navi not even great again, but greater
2017-08-09 23:41
#268
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CIS sergioff 
Stupid Gambit. GL Zeus!
2017-08-09 23:42
#278
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Portugal tioNik 
LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
2017-08-10 00:00
#279
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Brazil Collee 
But why did they kick kane? Even with the condition of losing Zeus for it... what a dumb move. They won't win anything relevant without him. I can't believe they were dumb to this point, just want to know the reason to kick kane and lose the best igl in the world as well. Hard to believe they didn't have a pretty good reason
2017-08-10 00:02
#283
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Indonesia FinZzz 
Something about the story just doesnt add up. Why the fuck did the gambit boys wanna kick their coach after they just won a MAJOR, the biggest tournament win of their entire lives? Seriously, i dont think they are THAT retarded. And especially, if Zeus leaves if they kicked the coach and YET they still chose to kick Kane, thats just out of this world. Because zeus is the main reason gambit got anywhere in the first place. So i think the story is pure bullshit.
2017-08-10 00:10
#289
NiKo | 
Croatia AzorAhai 
ikr , it makes no sense ...
2017-08-10 00:29
#307
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Netherlands EliteBekkers 
They are not smart.
2017-08-10 00:58
I hope Zeus will make S1mple to be a good person not with heightened self-esteem like now
2017-08-10 00:18
#288
fer | 
Brazil cadik 
stupud excuses about kanes kick lost all respect i had for zeus won't cheer for him anymore
2017-08-10 00:23
kbye.
2017-08-10 11:30
Lost all respect I had for both GAMBIT and Zeus. We all know Dosia fucked Zeus' wife.
2017-08-10 00:31
But who can blame her? Anything for a moment with X-God.
2017-08-10 02:51
#298
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Europe skelteR 
Unfortunately, Gambit is now back to tier 3. Too bad
2017-08-10 00:42
#300
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Lithuania alon9 
ANGE1 is like the only decent option left for Gambit to fill-in IGL gap.
2017-08-10 00:45
#321
s1mple | 
Ukraine Lev1 
ANGEL costs around 1 million $, only few orgs on this Earth might afford it. They will probably get someone from Tengri.
2017-08-10 01:45
everything was decided at the red wedding
2017-08-10 00:47
#310
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Poland bleyd1337 
soooo Kane > Starrix?
2017-08-10 01:01
eoL was around in the 1,5 days, not 1.6
2017-08-10 01:03
#314
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Poland bleyd1337 
Gambit Toxic, Zeus goes for money, CIS CS
2017-08-10 01:09
After some re-reading, I concluded that the story MAY be like this: - Zeus is a long-time friend with Kane, a real good friend. - Kane had some trouble financially, (maybe because of failing to coach in the other team), and Zeus acknowledged this. - Some dudes (here in the comments, probably true, or not) said that Kane is one of the condition for Zeus to join Gambit. This happen probably after Kane failed to coach elsewhere, and got no income. - Kane was, as some may say, again, failed to coach Gambit properly. And Zeus can't do much about it. - (insert Major winning here) - After the Major, hObbit had his wedding and was attended by Gambit players, except Zeus and Kane, for a reason. Idk maybe Zeus was taking care of pro100? - In the wedding, the 4 out of 5 players were discussing about the team's future. And at some point, they all agreed that Kane was very useless in their Major winning and should not be kept. - After the hObbit's wedding, Zeus and Kane were told that they wanted to kick Kane. - Zeus and Kane didn't want that, because of that specific personal problem. Until Zeus threatened to leave if they actually want Kane to be removed. Zeus got that pro100, so kicked or not, he wouldn't be really upset about playing or not. - It actually happened. The threat was not a jibba jabba. - Boom. Kane and Zeus removed. - Na'Vi players learned after that, maybe from Zeus himself, that he was then a free agent. - Na'Vi didn't see any other player to replace GuardiaN and seized, so they took Zeus. - Again, maybe Kane was a Zeus' condition to join Na'Vi, so they actually took him also. - But maybe Kane didn't play, just coach. - Due to recent poor results at Na'Vi, they decided to add more analyst, so there would be 2 analyst, Andi and Kane. But Andi decided to leave, somehow. - No other players, GuardiaN was taken by FaZe, Vega Squadron didn't want no business with Na'Vi, they took seized again. And there you have it. This is just a conclusion based on many sources, can be true, can be not.
2017-08-10 01:30
#324
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Bahrain picklesbois 
thanks sherlock
2017-08-10 01:56
My pleasure, uh.. pickle... boys.
2017-08-10 02:11
You practically copied the entire news article and then made up some stuff which sounds good in your head.. what a wall of text for nothing
2017-08-10 11:31
i think i did everything in my power to $ave the ro$ter
2017-08-10 02:25
"Well, first of all you must understand that for me, this is work and I must look at professionalism and work relationship." But he just left a major-winning team because they fired the coach?
2017-08-10 02:49
#346
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Russia Maxim1lli1aN 
Exactly, very two faced guy. Talks about professionalism and leaving the team just because they've decided to kick his friend XDDDDDDD
2017-08-10 05:04
My theories: 1- Gambit players thought they could win without their coach and not share the prize money with him, leading them to the decision of kicking him. Assuming that Kane was friends with Zeus, he also left and joined Na'Vi afterwards. 2- Na'Vi contacted Zeus after the Major win and decided to hire him back, paying more than Gambit ofc. But that doesnt explain the coach getting kicked. In my opinion, if Zeus covered the true story, Gambit players wont let that go...
2017-08-10 03:55
#337
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North America Kyl13 
my theory Zeus leave gambit and back to navi =)
2017-08-10 04:08
Cool story bro. We all know you still in love with NaVi ('s $$$$). More like "I THINK I DID EVERYTHING IN MY POWER TO SAVE THE KANE." Lol
2017-08-10 04:40
#341
AdreN | 
Kazakhstan Fox427 
When it comes to Kane -" I did not want to leave my friend and coach alone, the man who had helped not only me but the whole team to win tournaments. And after a few days, I made a decision that I would be leaving with him." The reason why I went back to NAVI - "this is work and I must look at professionalism and work relationship. Personal actions should be left in the individuals' conscience. We already closed this issue with the guys." So what I got from here is when it comes to Kane, he threatens Gambit to leave because of friendship, even though organization and other 4 players didn't want Kane in the team, so I guess this is "professionalism" then, but when it comes to NAVI, "guys, this is not about personal things, we need to forget about it" . Really dude? And btw, if I were Kane I would say to Zeus to stop conflicting with team and leave himself, he already knows that Zeus always loyal to him and no need prove anything to anyone and everyone would have known that Zeus did everything possible. Anyway, I don't want to judge him, wish him the best with his team. I think only time will show if it was correct decision. Peace. Let's go Gambit! Yahoooooo!!! :)
2017-08-10 04:39
#342
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Brazil hsk- 
this is classic `teen get famous and ditch his coach because he don`t need him anymore` this gambit guys are letting fame for winning a major get over their heads. i mean... fucking x-god,mou,adren,h0bbit, really think they can survive without a mastermind like zeus? Jesus christ
2017-08-10 04:35
#344
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Russia Maxim1lli1aN 
LOL nice "exclusive" interview, most of this is just translated from his message to some retarded russki YouTuber
2017-08-10 04:53
I'd love to hear what his new salary in Na'Vi will be. What do you guys think?
2017-08-10 05:03
+1 must be 10x more
2017-08-10 05:15
- seized + dosia :D
2017-08-10 05:20
- s1mple +anyone
2017-08-10 05:39
#351
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United States $hemlenie69 
SMFH WHY
2017-08-10 05:40
>gets backstabbed by his own team and then gets kicked >forms new team > wins major >goes back to the team that backstabbed him mastermind.
2017-08-10 05:42
#355
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Denmark FeNoM_XD 
he didnt form gambit, he just replaced hooch
2017-08-10 06:39
Zeus is soldout, you must understand this is job for me... Why the fuck did you cry oh they backstabbed me, I cried, it was very hard, and now you're all like it's all job for me... Two faced money whore!
2017-08-10 06:27
"First I want to say, so that my fans know, when I left with Kane, I wasn't 100% sure I would go to Na`Vi, I thought for a while about going to pro100 and help the young guys" Haha. Pure fiction and lies. Moneywhore.
2017-08-10 06:49
i'd rather see him just say he wanted to play with navi again cuz their potential is higher than that of gambit, i think the fans would survive
2017-08-10 07:08
LOL inbefore ZEUS going back to GAMBIT after the next major...LOL
2017-08-10 07:16
#365
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Europe skelteR 
All the kids around here crying that he left for more money while they live of their parents money and do not understand the importance of making money. This is valid for a real job, where you keep changing them when you get better salary, but especially here where you only jave a limited number of years to play.
2017-08-10 08:42
GL Zeus but will never get back the respect from people! :) GL to Gambit! I hope they will find some good 5th player to replace Zeus and win major again in near future! GL DUDES! XGOD WILL RISE AGAIN! :D
2017-08-10 09:11
#370
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Lithuania xeNNw0w 
#FALLGAMBIT
2017-08-10 09:29
Where did all gambit logos dissappear :DDDD HELLO GAMBIT, ZEUS HERE, ITS NOT THAT SIMPLE I GOT P1MPLE
2017-08-10 11:05
#390
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Azerbaijan M1R4CL3 
great story Zeus, GL my boy !
2017-08-10 11:20
#392
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Russia lockerZ 
good luck. Very nice new roster.
2017-08-10 11:21
Gambit back to being top20 at most.
2017-08-10 11:32
+1
2017-08-10 12:46
#399
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Norway Rudra2 
RIP Gambit, n1 100k buyout on Hobbit. LUL
2017-08-10 11:35
XDA
2017-08-10 11:54
#405
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Poland bleyd1337 
ye and 500k sell Zeus + Kane
2017-08-10 12:33
>"I THINK I DID EVERYTHING IN MY POWER TO SAVE THE ROSTER" >Set up the ultimatum gj Zeus. Wish you get backstabbed again, but next time there won't be a team who will pick you up.
2017-08-10 12:51
Nt hobbit
2017-08-10 13:01
Could be that zeus is a kind of guy you can't argue with, and that's why his previous lineups have done this same thing "behind the back". Anyway, according to these news, what rest of gambit's squad did is not showing too much of a character, but zeus also might have a need to improve himself as a person and leader.
2017-08-10 12:56
Why would you kick your coach after you just won a major? That is just retarded. Personal relationships aside, success must be the nr 1 criteria, and they were having success far beyond their potential, at which point kicking a part of the team is just insanity. You can only lead if people follow you willingly, and do stuff you want them to do for the good of the unit.
2017-08-10 13:03
It really do seem insane, but how can we know how much input did zeus and kane even have in gambit's game?
2017-08-10 13:06
Considering that Gambit were a bad tier 2 team before Zeus joined should give an answer to that. Now they are(were?) an elite tier 2 team, can't be tier one though.
2017-08-10 13:09
#418
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Bulgaria TEDDSENN 
Zeus > all igl in 2k17
2017-08-10 13:04
#420
Zeus | 
Ukraine Syochi 
true
2017-08-10 13:07
According to me, Zeus was just trying to justify his exit that's why he wasn't part of the wedding, beacause if he and Kane were there I doubt they would have kicked Kane on the first place cause they would discuss the teams future as 6th man, not four, and joining Na`Vi make the "justify" even more real cause of his past, but leaving the team that made ur dream come true(major) for a team that left u on the middle of the street like navi did, explains that feelings>winnings for Zeus. Everyone who thinks that he left Gambit for Kane is just blindfolded period
2017-08-10 13:07
#435
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Turkey Gerky 
++
2017-08-10 15:48
#453
Zeus | 
Ukraine Syochi 
Zeus go away from gambit because adren and stuff lost respect for him (cocky after major). It is not permissible for a good igl. They do not care what he thinks about kicking a coach. Only the major was important for Zeus. He thought that he would finish his career, and not go to Navi
2017-08-10 19:08
#423
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Brazil Luca0 
Now we need the story from the otherside
2017-08-10 13:15
#424
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Europe HowAboutNo 
I said it before and I'll say it again. Zeus = MVP. Players get too much respect and the IGL/Coaches very little. Where was Gambit before Zeus? Removing the Coach? Who is Hobbit etc.? You boys are nothing without a good leader. And I really hope you go back to nothing as fast as possible.
2017-08-10 13:19
#425
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Kazakhstan LichMFK 
xD RIP
2017-08-10 13:27
#426
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New Zealand JK_77 
So who will be Zeus's replacement?
2017-08-10 13:45
Zeus is now da baws in navi. expect navi to get great he knows how to win a major ya know
2017-08-10 13:58
"...but I was the one to ruin it"
2017-08-10 14:23
#430
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Portugal noboski 
1º Read plz
2017-08-10 14:42
no u didn't
2017-08-10 16:10
You sold your soul. Fuck
2017-08-10 16:15
#443
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Korea KlexCS 
COMEBACK OF LEGEND But i want best CIS team eletronic(rifler - entry) s1mple(rifler - semi awper and supporter) Zeus(ingame leader) Edward(rifler) Markeloff(awper)
2017-08-10 16:42
And this, guys, is what weddings do.
2017-08-10 16:50
I wonder what happens with gambits' invites to esl etc
2017-08-10 18:25
zeus stupid noob go eat shit fucking silver
2017-08-10 19:32
you did everything to lick nasty balls cock sucking blqt
2017-08-10 19:33
#458
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Sweden itchybells 
HLTV should post the COACHES of each team aswell. They are a big part of everyteam
2017-08-10 20:32
#461
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Czech Republic Limewax 
I'm seriously thinking myself btw,, would it be a good move to replace flamie with AdreN ?
2017-08-11 00:36
flamie not, but replace seized for AdreN would be really giid choice imo
2017-08-11 01:37
#479
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Czech Republic Limewax 
Nah, too much starplayers then. Flamie is considered a star. And when things go well he can play really good. But i think he is mentally quite weak. So swap him for adren who is playing super sick lately. Now you have s1mple and adren as firepower. Edward support, seized in his old support/lurk role was a fucking beast aswell. You need that. Combined with zeus' strats. Sounds awesome
2017-08-11 09:40
it doesnt sound that great adren would leave immediately without mou and dosia lol you know there is no way to sell matches like them when your team is trustworthy kappa
2017-08-12 21:59
#510
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Czech Republic Limewax 
I can't make up much of what you replied.. sorry
2017-08-13 19:21
#467
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Singapore Nephalith 
I don't know why people need to make up the story bigger than it actually is, thinking Zeus is greedy or Gambit are retarded. The truth is just as simple as they already explained. Gambit do not believe in Kane's ability as coach, and they were already having problems with practice prior to the major. They know in order to progress further and not to make this major a one-off victory, they need to improve on their practice regime and that means acquiring a better coach. As for Zeus, Kane is the reason why he managed to perform as he is now and for what it's worth, Kane is an integral part of Gambit and they should all start listening to him instead of going against him. Zeus can probably function with another coach but no coach would be as good as Kane for Zeus (if Kane was that mediocre kind of coach, Zeus wouldn't brought him to Navi). Kicking Kane also cemented Zeus was just any other player without a say in the team. The only reason why this team can function well was their respect for Zeus, listening to every word he says like a gospel and that's how Zeus wants from a team. A team that trust him 100%. Clearly this isn't the case anymore after they won the major. Simply put, it's just a normal failed working relationship. Both sides wanted what's best for them. The decision was mutual. They cut kane, Zeus leaves. I don't know why people make this bigger than it actually is. Hating on Zeus or Gambit is just immature.
2017-08-11 02:30
+1
2017-08-11 07:39
+1
2017-08-11 13:21
Old but forever gold, Daddy Zeus! :)
2017-08-11 14:38
#1 Zeus on leaving Gambit and joining NaVi youtube.com/watch?v=e5oBcYoc4Dc #2 Zeus on leaving Gambit and joining NaVi youtube.com/watch?v=j8ea8vxMFzM
2017-08-12 14:09
#501
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Russia telosll 
2017-08-12 19:47
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