Immortals in turmoil as trio ask to leave

Immortals' squad is in disarray as a result of ongoing internal issues, with several players having asked to leave the organisation, a source close to the team has told HLTV.org.

With the transfer window in the ESL Pro League about to shut, Immortals have a major headache to deal with as Lucas "⁠LUCAS1⁠" Teles, Henrique "⁠HEN1⁠" Teles and Vito "⁠kNgV-⁠" Giuseppe have all asked to be allowed to leave the organisation due to internal differences with the remaining players and with coach Rafael "⁠zakk⁠" Fernandes.

The news will come as a shock to many, considering that Immortals' runner-up finish at PGL Major Krakow was the team's greatest achievement ever. After the event, the North American organisation tied down the services of kNgV-, who had been on loan from Red Reserve.

The future of Immortals' squad is in doubt

The unhappy trio have expressed their dissatisfaction to Immortals CEO Noah Whinston, who told the players that, even though he will not stand in the way of a transfer, they can only leave if their release clauses are met.

It is believed that LUCAS1, HEN1 and kNgV- are all keen to play alongside Lincoln "⁠fnx⁠" Lau, who is on Immortals' transfer list after being benched by the team in May, with Liquid's Jonathan "⁠EliGE⁠" Jablonowski, who speaks Portuguese, high on the list of potential candidates for the fifth position.

The future of the Brazilian team is now at an impasse. Immortals know that, should they sell the majority of their squad, they will automatically lose their spot at the next Major, which could very well play a key role in negotiations. The North American organisation have reached an agreement with k1ck for João "⁠horvy⁠" Horvath, who does not know what the roster will look like when he arrives in the United States.

Registration deadline for the ESL Pro League is Friday 09:00 (Thursday 23:59 PDT), with teams allowed to change just two players after that. Immortals will take on SK in their first match in the ESL Pro League, on August 25 at 03:20 .

United States Jonathan 'EliGE' Jablonowski
Jonathan 'EliGE' Jablonowski
Age:
23
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.09
Maps played:
1365
KPR:
0.76
DPR:
0.68
APR:
0.16
Brazil João 'horvy' Horvath
João 'horvy' Horvath
Age:
22
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.96
Maps played:
216
KPR:
0.64
DPR:
0.66
APR:
0.11
Brazil Henrique 'HEN1' Teles
Henrique 'HEN1' Teles
Age:
25
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.11
Maps played:
945
KPR:
0.71
DPR:
0.58
APR:
0.12
Brazil Lucas 'LUCAS1' Teles
Lucas 'LUCAS1' Teles
Age:
25
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.97
Maps played:
869
KPR:
0.66
DPR:
0.68
APR:
0.16
Brazil Rafael 'zakk' Fernandes
Rafael 'zakk' Fernandes
Age:
-
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
0.77
Maps played:
97
KPR:
0.51
DPR:
0.70
APR:
0.13
Brazil Vito 'kNgV-' Giuseppe
Vito 'kNgV-' Giuseppe
Age:
28
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.13
Maps played:
734
KPR:
0.77
DPR:
0.65
APR:
0.10
Brazil Lincoln 'fnx' Lau
Lincoln 'fnx' Lau
Age:
30
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.04
Maps played:
600
KPR:
0.71
DPR:
0.66
APR:
0.16
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#3
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Norway Eng1s
hm
2017-08-17 02:06
20 replies
kng and fnx together again like in the end of cs 1.6 it will be awesome to see that time they defeated fallen team
2017-08-17 13:33
17 replies
#559
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Brazil luconesc
i hope you are being ironic, like your name is saying you are...
2017-08-17 13:52
5 replies
They need a good igl now what about bit1 ??? he is fnx old friend and igl of teamone, top1 BR team atm
2017-08-17 14:29
4 replies
#591
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Brazil luconesc
boltz is a good igl, lead then in to major finals
2017-08-17 15:14
3 replies
they just asked to leave boltz, are you okay
2017-08-17 17:22
#679
zews | 
Brazil wIDt
Isn't steel the current igl?
2017-08-19 18:41
1 reply
#680
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Brazil luconesc
nope, steel passed the igl position to boltz, even before the major boltz was the one making the calls.
2017-08-19 20:05
#612
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Brazil [JH]
optic gaming: fnx, hen1, lucas1, kngv, mixwell
2017-08-17 18:26
8 replies
Mixwell just speak english and spanish, but the portugues brazilian isnt dificult, so, maybe
2017-08-17 18:40
3 replies
#616
NEO | 
Brazil ptL^^
For someone who already speaks spanish it's easier. But other then that it's one of the hardest. Hope they get a 5th brazilian that understands they are 4 bad boys and not a guy from a different culture. Edit: OH! Now I saw the horvy news. That's why the trio clashed with the rest of them and the org.
2017-08-17 19:01
1 reply
you gotta be kidding...
2017-08-17 21:01
#632
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Brazil mineraum
actually, portuguese is known from being one of the hardest languages spoken, but portuguese and spanish, basically, sounds the same, they can understand each other
2017-08-17 21:32
hen,kng and mixwell... 3 awps?
2017-08-17 20:02
#629
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Portugal Nn1nho91
3 Awpers in team is not a good ideia!!!
2017-08-17 21:04
2 replies
2017-08-17 22:00
#655
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Brazil Jack3D_br
omg, he hates but he is a prodigy in that weapon!
2017-08-18 02:11
#662
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World neomax360
LMAO keep your deep dream for you. Your logic put KNG and fNX = defeating SK. LMAO that is pure dream
2017-08-18 21:06
1 reply
can you read? i dont know where are you from but look in google translator for "that time" that time (in the end of 1.6) they defeated fallen 1.6 team that use to dominat cs 1.6 in brazil
2017-08-19 15:30
thought the same, just "hm" :D can imagine that IMT keeps the trio, fnx is already on the roster and then adds elige. the others can leave.
2017-08-17 14:23
I say just grab her by the pussy!
2017-08-17 19:08
wtf
2017-08-17 02:06
5 replies
this feels like a one night of drinking, drama fight. and why the hell would elige of all people join these dudes. not askin u kimmel. just posting. :)
2017-08-17 03:12
#600
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Brazil bFaria
Agree. This sounds VERY weird. These guys have been playing together for years with Boltz and Steel. Now, just after reaching finals, they suddenly wanna leave and join fnx? hmm
2017-08-17 15:49
3 replies
Egos can come out when big results happen.
2017-08-17 16:11
2 replies
#617
NEO | 
Brazil ptL^^
According to what kNg is tweeting the part who wants a change is the org and the other guys. The trio is against it. Don't know what it is tho.
2017-08-17 18:58
1 reply
Ahhh, we will see what happens then!
2017-08-17 19:01
wat
2017-08-17 02:06
1 reply
#671
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Brazil Gutsx
It's probably FNX's fault, it destroys all teams, even away from them.
2017-08-19 09:20
#6
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Latvia puviens
lol
2017-08-17 02:06
#7
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Denmark JustYes
wtf
2017-08-17 02:06
#8
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Singapore repu1se
Why would elige want to play with these guys lol
2017-08-17 02:08
24 replies
#79
mika | 
Faroe Islands kLango
They're friends
2017-08-17 02:12
elige loves to play with brazilian, imagine a cold murica playing with hardcore madness funniest brazilians ever (hen1 / lucas1), after a week he will probably see them as boring people tho.
2017-08-17 02:17
11 replies
In pub He probably wouldnt like to live with 4 monkeys listening to funk, eating bananas and screaming about football
2017-08-17 04:12
10 replies
#382
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Slovakia TatKo
Bruh
2017-08-17 08:12
shots fired
2017-08-17 08:14
rekt
2017-08-17 08:25
Supa hot fire
2017-08-17 12:48
Rich coming from the refugee
2017-08-17 13:46
#581
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Brazil mineraum
so much trash talk lul
2017-08-17 14:50
#593
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African Union hdlmb
What do you mean funk? Lol surely they dont listen to funk
2017-08-17 15:27
2 replies
#630
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Brazil dkf
He probably means "funk carioca", which is sort of like rap and hip hop with more bass, and with more sexual themes overall. Its regarded as poor people's music. Nothing to do with american funk music.
2017-08-17 21:23
1 reply
#633
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African Union hdlmb
Fair enough. Didn't know this.
2017-08-17 21:49
#649
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Brazil acci_
reported. I am just helping our community =)
2017-08-18 00:20
because of the language?
2017-08-17 02:22
Probably because they're better than the NA trash he has to play with otherwise.
2017-08-17 02:34
4 replies
#279
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United States PolerSS
+1
2017-08-17 04:07
3 replies
#312
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Brazil stingers
flag does not check out
2017-08-17 05:19
2 replies
But he is right
2017-08-17 12:16
Not everyone who lives here pulls the flag over their eyes :D
2017-08-17 14:24
Why wouldn't he? LUCAS1, HEN1, kNgV-, fnx and EliGE would be a pretty badass lineup. Far far better than EliGE's current team at least.
2017-08-17 08:21
EliGe it's a good guy, he don't talk sh*t, LUCAS, HEN1 are literally crazy, always drunk and talking sh*t, but also they are good players, but i don't think EliGe can fit playing with IMT
2017-08-17 13:21
2 replies
#570
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Sri Lanka 1v1meRust
you can say shit here, it's fine just don't be racist and it's all gucci
2017-08-17 14:15
1 reply
oh okay xd thx
2017-08-18 00:59
#590
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Brazil theambush
Why? Hahah what do u think? Cuz B R teams has more potencial than na scene
2017-08-17 15:13
a
2017-08-17 02:06
WHAT
2017-08-17 02:06
#12
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CIS sergioff
ROFL
2017-08-17 02:06
lol
2017-08-17 02:06
elige?
2017-08-17 02:06
#15
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Belgium sasha_king
noobs
2017-08-17 02:06
7 replies
"fan of maiami flamingos" hmmm yeah.
2017-08-17 02:47
MIAMI FLAMINGOS IN 2K17 LUL
2017-08-17 03:26
3 replies
TEMPO STORM IN 2K17 LUL
2017-08-17 10:59
2 replies
Fair
2017-08-17 11:32
1 reply
#555
RpK | 
Iceland pumtac
Kebab in 2k17 LUL no
2017-08-17 13:41
Its hilarious how you can bait 2 BRs with just 1 word
2017-08-17 08:46
1 reply
One word is ok
2017-08-17 13:40
first edit: :(
2017-08-17 02:07
1 reply
rip edit: :(
2017-08-17 08:14
Elige?
2017-08-17 02:07
WTF
2017-08-17 02:07
#21
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Costa Rica Gomezio
Elige speaks Portuguese? Interesting AF
2017-08-17 02:07
114 replies
Internet Explorer user spotted!
2017-08-17 02:08
22 replies
#55
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Costa Rica Gomezio
What, is this just common knowledge???
2017-08-17 02:09
21 replies
Yes. There constantly have been topics about it on HLTV past 6 months or so.
2017-08-17 02:12
1 reply
#81
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Costa Rica Gomezio
I don't read the forums on the site anymore, just the news and matches.
2017-08-17 02:12
yeah, it is, he sings allot of Brazilian musics on livestream and played some matches with SK on portuguese
2017-08-17 02:12
#85
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Brazil theambush
For BRs, yes
2017-08-17 02:13
17 replies
I'm not from Brazil, but still know about it for quite some time.
2017-08-17 02:18
2 replies
Aren't you fucking cool
2017-08-17 09:48
1 reply
Indeed.
2017-08-17 12:42
how did he learn portuguese tho?
2017-08-17 11:41
13 replies
#519
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Brazil theambush
I think that he learnt by his own way, using the Internet
2017-08-17 11:48
12 replies
#537
fnx | 
Sweden martla
didnt he take a portuguese class at school or something?
2017-08-17 12:42
Elige's mother is brazilian
2017-08-17 13:27
10 replies
#557
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Brazil theambush
Thanks..i didnt know it
2017-08-17 13:51
Really? Okay that makes sense why he's also kind of attached to the Brazilians! He sure does not look like half brazilian though
2017-08-17 13:57
8 replies
haha
2017-08-17 14:07
#571
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Sri Lanka 1v1meRust
to be honest boltz also doesn't look brazilian, he's white af also yeL
2017-08-17 14:16
5 replies
Yeah, sure, but they still kind of look latino! I guess this will sound more and more racist if we go on, but I think you get what I mean!
2017-08-17 14:49
you'd be surprised by the amout of white people in Brazil, gotta take some Geography classes I see
2017-08-17 15:16
3 replies
#653
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Sri Lanka 1v1meRust
i am brazilian mate, also, did you even understand what i said? i meant that both boltz and yel don't look what people understand as "brazilian", but they still are gotta take some interpretation classes I see
2017-08-18 01:47
2 replies
there's no such thing as a brazilian look you fucking retard
2017-08-19 00:56
1 reply
#665
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Sri Lanka 1v1meRust
calls people retards, then proceeds to get mad when people call us monkeys i have no need to talk with ignorant people, cya
2017-08-19 01:21
#631
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Brazil dkf
And what exactly do you think is the brazillian look?
2017-08-17 21:30
Elige's portuguese is very poor (just some sentences, curses and greetings). Note that Liquid's video does not show a single sentence of him speaking in portuguese. He had to learn a lot of position names, plays, strats, and specially talking about IMT guys, A LOT of slangs. Even if they hire zews as a coach i would find almost impossible for him to teamplay with these guys. And on top of that, only steel and zakk speak some understandable english. On the other hand, If we were considering an SK exchange, i would find that perfectly possible, because Fallen, TACO and now coldzera have a great english proficiency IRL and ingame and could teach him very quickly. They would love to take ELiGE to the team. fer loves him too.
2017-08-17 02:39
89 replies
#317
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Brazil adre221
Any SK player >>>>> Elige
2017-08-17 05:34
83 replies
You are crazy if you think taco is a better player than elige
2017-08-17 06:12
82 replies
#332
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Brazil adre221
Don't compare a pugger who isn't even on a top30 team to a multiple times major champion who is in the best team in the world.
2017-08-17 06:13
81 replies
#339
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North America Foxaika
Why not? Elige is much more skilled than Taco in my opinion, champion or not.
2017-08-17 06:20
37 replies
#340
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Brazil adre221
That's why it's your opinion and nothing else, elige can do taco's role as much as I can pilot an airplane.
2017-08-17 06:22
35 replies
#357
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North America Foxaika
And that's your opinion and nothing else. Belittling my opinion does the same to yours. When it comes to roles, sure, you can't just swap them out. But mechanically, Elige is more skilled than Taco. The question was who is the better player, not who fills x role best.
2017-08-17 07:22
34 replies
#359
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Brazil adre221
Except what I'm saying is not really an opinion, it's a well known fact, saying that a guy who is barely tier3 is better than someone who is a multiple times major champion and won multiple 250k tournaments and also happens to be in the best team in the world right now and faces the best teams in the world while performing solidly against them, is, you know, kinda stupid.
2017-08-17 07:26
33 replies
True Also Pronax is the best Igl ever to live on this planet... Besides that, hes talking about skill and not about achievements and its a well known fact that using achievements to argue about the skill of two players is, you know, kinda stupid.
2017-08-17 07:45
26 replies
#380
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Brazil adre221
Performing constantly against tier1 competition and winning multiple events proves taco is more skillful than elige who performs average against... whatever shit tier scrubs he is playing against.
2017-08-17 08:09
25 replies
No, it proves that he is a good roleplayer in a good team. Sticking with my example before, by your logic pronax is more skilled than coldzera since he won more majors and more events in general than cold
2017-08-17 08:15
24 replies
#386
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Brazil adre221
compare pronax's rating to coldzera's please, also, there is a reason pronax aren't even on a tier5 team now.
2017-08-17 08:16
23 replies
Stick to your opinion pls, 3 is obviously bigger than 2
2017-08-17 08:18
22 replies
#388
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Brazil adre221
What? What you are saying doesn't even make any sense... If pronax had a rating next to coldzera then you'd have a point, if you were talking about flusha or someone like that it'd been debatable, but your example is simply stupid.
2017-08-17 08:20
21 replies
Let me tell you something. Comparing taco and elige like that, is, you know, kinda stupid too
2017-08-17 08:31
8 replies
#397
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Brazil adre221
Not really, there is a reason taco is on the best team in the world and elige's not, taco performs good against good opponents and win events, elige is an average player from NA that plays nothing special against tier5 opponents, taco is much more skillful than elige, as simple as that.
2017-08-17 08:34
7 replies
What? What you are saying doesnt even make any sense. At first, you should again stick to your own opinion/ facts. Going from taco performing solid to performing good and from elige playing against tier 3 to playing against tier5 looks a bit helpless. 2nd, elige isnt just average, he is one of the best na players while taco is far away being amongst the best even in brazil. 3rd. Im starting to doubt that you know what skill, regarding counterstrike, means, so you should look it up maybe.
2017-08-17 08:57
6 replies
#406
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Brazil adre221
Wow there is some inconsistencies on my figures of speech, that makes all of my points invalid! Also, my gold nova friend is pretty good, I think he is better than cold. He hasn't achieved anything really, but my opinion makes it true. I think what skill means to you is doing some flashy plays against low tier competition, instead of helping your team win games, congrats, you are a CSGO expert. Taco>elige, that's a fact, and your only argument against it is your opinion.
2017-08-17 08:59
5 replies
I never said that your inconsistencies make your points invalid, but it shows that, since your only arguments are, the same which you blame me for, your opinion, you have to exaggerate to give them some value. The difference between me and you is that you state your opinion as facts. Also comparing your goldnova friend to cold shows that you didnt understand my examples at all. While pronax played against tier1 too your friend just plays against gold nova. In my opinion, and i think most people would agree, skill is about mechanical abilities, so Simplified, about aiming. Being able to throw many flashes and support your team doesnt take a lot of skill , while doing flashy plays does. (Which help your team win games too). Thats the reason there are roles in csgo, thats why taco is support and elige is a starplayer. Im sure if elige puts in a lot of time he could learn to support too, maybe not as good as taco but at least decent. But in no way taco would be able to do flashy plays like elige
2017-08-17 09:31
2 replies
#425
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Brazil adre221
You really don't know anything about CS, do you? Cold is support for SK, taco is an entryfragger, and he does show up for his team when it's needed, he can put up good numbers against tier1 opposition, while elige plays against tier3 opponents. There is a reason taco is on the world's best team right now and elige isn't, elige is an average NA player, the skill you need to have to play against the people taco play against is greater than whatever skill elige will ever have, you are not very smart if you think taco is on SK because he can throw flashes, every player on SK is one of the world most skillful players, including taco.
2017-08-17 09:46
1 reply
It seems like you just copy paste your one argument which his nothi g else than your opinion over And over again. also it seems like i understand a lot more about cs than you do. Taco is on Sk cause hes apparently a good teammate and a brazilian, thats why he is on sk. Cold isnt a support at all, hes their star player. Sk is built around him so he can win them rounds, with taco as a guy that does whats needed. That may include entryfragging but in general hes a support player
2017-08-17 10:01
tacos rating: prntscr.com/g9igxc eliges rating: prntscr.com/g9ihns sure taco won more than elige but its not everything to win a event to be a better player
2017-08-17 09:45
1 reply
#427
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Brazil adre221
Yes, and xantares is the best player in the world. Look at the teams taco play against, then look at the teams elige play against.
2017-08-17 09:48
Wow you are stupid
2017-08-17 09:52
11 replies
#430
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Brazil adre221
nice argument
2017-08-17 09:53
10 replies
Thats not an argument you idiot
2017-08-17 10:05
2 replies
#444
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Brazil adre221
Sorry you are so dumb you can't understand sarcasm, I'll make sure to make comments your level of intelligence can understand next time.
2017-08-17 10:07
1 reply
Wow... what makes you think my comment wasnt sarcastic too?
2017-08-17 10:43
You are really stupid
2017-08-17 10:13
6 replies
#474
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Brazil adre221
It's funny how you can only insult me without making any points, I wouldn't expect more from someone with your level of intelligence though.
2017-08-17 10:41
5 replies
You use acheivements as a measurment of skill, like everyone else is saying, by your logic Pronax is the worlds best player.
2017-08-17 11:38
4 replies
#511
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Brazil adre221
No, I use achievements to separate the best from the trash, if elige is to be better than an acomplhished player like taco then he needs to prove it, that's why you can't go on saying random players are better than world champions. Also, pronax hasn't been revelant in years and he had horrible ratings in his prime.
2017-08-17 11:40
3 replies
Lmao, just read what you are saying, its no wonder people are all calling you stupid as fuck....
2017-08-17 12:21
2 replies
#642
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Brazil adre221
You are making no arguments what so whever, good way to escape after being destroyed
2017-08-17 23:54
1 reply
Cry more
2017-08-18 09:46
I gotta say I agree with Foxaika on this. EliGE is mad skilled. He is a better player than TACO without a doubt.
2017-08-17 08:26
5 replies
#394
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Brazil adre221
I respect your opinion and you're entitled to it, but keep in mind that's not a fact.
2017-08-17 08:28
4 replies
#434
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United States RyxxyR
And we aware that your OPINION that Taco is better than Elige is an OPINION. There's no direct way to prove that either statement is a fact. To be honest, they are both decent players, Taco doesn't usually get many kills, and he isn't an overly amazing player, but he does his job. And Elige could fare much better in a better team and has a high skill cap, especially when his team plays well.
2017-08-17 09:59
3 replies
#441
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Brazil adre221
It's not really an opinion, taco has proven he is a great player and can stand his feet against tier1 teams while also winning events. If you want to say things like elige is better than taco, then you have to prove it, because seeing that taco won multiple events and is on the best team in the world while elige has achieved nothing taco is the better player unless proven otherwise. That's like saying I could be better than taco if I was on his place, but that's not true unless I actually start winning events and prove it.
2017-08-17 10:04
2 replies
#487
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United States RyxxyR
Winning events is a team effort, not the effort of a single player. A single player can be amazingly skilled but be on a shitty team. Take NiKo for example, he never really won anything on Mouz, yet everyone knew he was a fucking insane player, and now he's on FaZe and he's made them a top 3-5 team.
2017-08-17 10:59
1 reply
#491
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Brazil adre221
But Niko was putting amazing results against tier1 teams, getting coldzera's like level of performance against them. Elige is the best player of a bad team, and that's not saying much.
2017-08-17 11:02
+1
2017-08-17 17:22
#404
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Europe skelteR
No ofense but you are delusional
2017-08-17 08:55
38 replies
#431
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Brazil adre221
after all those good points you make in your comment, I can't help but agree with you
2017-08-17 09:54
37 replies
#432
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Europe skelteR
What argument do I need to make? It's like comparing fucking bodyy to simple or somebody. It's clear the skill difference is there. Elige could do what TACO does with no problems. However, you should not limit a player with the skill of Elige to that role.
2017-08-17 09:58
36 replies
#436
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Brazil adre221
That's why taco is winning multiple events against tier1 teams and elige is... I don't know? Sorry I don't follow tier3 players.
2017-08-17 10:00
35 replies
#439
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Europe skelteR
What are you even talking about? We are comparing players, not teams. Taco is the worst player in his team and he has teammates like coldzera, fer, fallen and felps. Elige is the best player in his team and he plays with less skilled players than the brazilians. We are discussing the individual players here, not their teams and their results.
2017-08-17 10:02
34 replies
#450
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Brazil adre221
You can't really say elige is better than taco if he hasn't proven himself, if elige was as good as you're talking about he would be in a top team, as simple as that. Taco has showed his skill by being a solid player in the best team in the world, until elige proves himself and performs constantly better than taco against tier1 teams, taco is better.
2017-08-17 10:14
20 replies
#451
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Europe skelteR
Elige is in a top team in US. These are the teams there. Anyway, I won't bother anymore, it's so absurd. You are saying a Renault is better than a Mercedes.
2017-08-17 10:16
9 replies
#453
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Brazil adre221
If elige was as good as you are saying, he would be in a team like faze, nationalities aren't really a excuse to be in a bad team anymore. You know why he isn't? Because he is an average NA pro. I'll be saying a Renault is better than a Mercedes if Renault was a multi awarded company and Mercedes was a mediocre company who didn't make a good car yet.
2017-08-17 10:19
8 replies
#456
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Europe skelteR
Ok, so following your logic, flusha and jw are the best players in the world? Cause they have 3 majors under their belt? Following your logic, is taco better than niko? Cause niko has not won a major?
2017-08-17 10:21
7 replies
#460
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Brazil adre221
Flusha and jw were one of the best players in the world, yes, at the time they won those events. Their achievements are too old though, and they haven't won anything in years, so they are not that highly rated anymore. Niko is better than taco, because niko is playing on a top3 team and he proved he can show insane results against tier1 teams and help his team win events and get good placings, even though he has not won a major. Elige is not niko though, elige isn't even known to be a top player. You guys are talking like he is cold or niko, while he is more like cerq, a player who only looks good because of the incredibly low tier teams he play against.
2017-08-17 10:29
6 replies
#466
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Europe skelteR
Cerq, wtf. Elige has proven himself vs tier1 teams numerous times. Just because the team is not good enough does not mean he is not better than someone who plays in a team that wins titles. Taco is a mediocre player, his aim is average at best. I understand you like him, but you cannot be that delusional. Wake up. I don't even like Elige, but saying taco, of all players, is better than him is absurd.
2017-08-17 10:33
5 replies
#471
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Brazil adre221
You really doesn't understand how CS works, at this point of competition you can't be in the world's best team and not be very skillful, taco can entryfrag and hold sites against the world best teams, that makes him better than any player who hasn't showed or achieved anything, elige hasn't proved he can play better than taco, it's pointless to even discuss this.
2017-08-17 10:39
4 replies
#476
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Europe skelteR
Yes, I do not understand cs. Nobody said taco is not skilled, just average skilled. While Elige is clearly more skilled. I mean, it's fucking taco, the dude has not gotten 20 frags in one map in ages. When he does, it's a celebration. Fucking TACO, what are you on about? He is fucking TACO, wtf.
2017-08-17 10:44
3 replies
#481
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Brazil adre221
He doesn't get frag because he doesn't need to, there is literally fallen, cold, felps and fer to do that. Taco doesn't give a fuck about kills, he do what's necessary to win, he doesn't hunt frags, he play smart, he hold sites, he gets crucial kills, all he cares about is how he will contribute to his team's success, he can very well stand his feet and win his team the round when the other players fail, but they are so good it hardly even happens. A team like SK need a player like taco, and that's why puggers like elige will never achieve something and NA will always be trash, they prefer to go after flashy plays and lose the round for the team, taco is not killing much but he is winning, and that's all that matters, and that's why players like him are on a whole different level than elige.
2017-08-17 10:52
2 replies
>he do whats necessary to win >taco is a supportplayer is a retarded statement Pick one
2017-08-17 11:07
1 reply
#643
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Brazil adre221
You know that I'm not making this up, and that the roles in SK were always known to be like this, right?
2017-08-17 23:55
Elige does performe constantly better and hes also in one of the top na teams. Dont know in which world you live in.
2017-08-17 10:17
9 replies
#458
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Brazil adre221
Nice job escaping the main argument after making completely retarded statements like ''taco is a support player''. Elige ''top na team'' isn't even top10, elige get's trashed out at groups on most events and plays mostly against tier3 opponents, while taco plays mostly against tier1, and plays on the big stage, instead of stat padding against lesser teams on groups then getting knocked out to the first tier1 he encounters.
2017-08-17 10:24
8 replies
Well maybe answer my last comment in the main argument before you blame me for escaping after making completely retarded statements like cold is a support player.
2017-08-17 10:41
7 replies
#477
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Brazil adre221
LOL you really don't know anything, you concluded all of this by yourself? It's a well known fact that cold is sk's support player and taco entryfrags, go inform yourself, people like you know so little about CS you think things such as ''star player'' is a role, SK plays on a system which works around executing tactics, not supporting one player.
2017-08-17 10:46
6 replies
Sk is set up around fer and felps being aggressiv and cold holding sites and clutching. I think you are the one that has no clue about roles in cs. A support player is the guy that sets up the others to get kills and win rounds. Also he has to do the things noone else wants to do like or whats needed in any given situation. if fallen wants taco to entry, he does it but that doesnt make him a pure entryfragger. Sks system doesnt rely on tactics that much. Sure, they got some executes, but they are pretty basic. What makes them so strong is that they got so much firepower in cold fer and felps, sometimes also fallen, and a good support in taco. Felps and fer go aggresive, to make it a 3v3 or sth like that so cold can clutch the round.
2017-08-17 11:02
3 replies
#497
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Brazil adre221
SK is most known to be a very strategic team. Sure, they have a lot of firepower, but cold only clutches when it's needed, they rely on smart play to get an advantage and hold into it in a round. Taco is not a support player, he is a pure entryfragger, he goes in first in the bombsites and is often the first to die, that's why he doesn't has very good stats, but he sacrifices himself so cold and the others can be the ones alive in the round. Cold is the one supporting the team and sometimes IGLing, that's how SK's system always was.
2017-08-17 11:10
2 replies
I can agree that sk plays very smart. But to make that work they have to set up each other depending on the situation so all of them are kind of supports and entries depending on who has utility and who not. But it seems like taco sacrifices the most so if you transfer the typical rolesystem to sk taco would most likely be the support. Also compared to elige taco sucks as pure entryfragger
2017-08-17 14:09
1 reply
#644
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Brazil adre221
But taco has the necessary skills to play in a way it max his team's chances to win, taco's role is extremely hard and can't be done by an average player like elige, who wouldn't have any place in a world class team like SK. Taco could play like a star if he wanted, but it's not what his team needs, he prefers to play for his team's win, and that itself requires more skill than being a hotshot in a tier3 team.
2017-08-17 23:59
Also you still didnt answer in the main argument
2017-08-17 11:09
1 reply
#498
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Brazil adre221
It barely has any space, I covered your points in the other reply I made.
2017-08-17 11:12
idk his arguments like if the player cant win any events he cannot be a better player than someone who won some events
2017-08-17 10:19
12 replies
#455
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Europe skelteR
And he keeps insisting on it...
2017-08-17 10:20
#465
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Brazil adre221
He can, but he isn't unless he has proven it. Niko has achieved less than taco, but he has proven he can play better than him, elige, however, has not, unless elige prove himself, he is not better than taco.
2017-08-17 10:31
10 replies
lol niko won nothing when he was in mouz his first big premier event was when he joined faze nice try and he was still a better player than taco in mouz
2017-08-17 10:35
9 replies
#469
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Brazil adre221
He still showed he could carry against tier1, like kennyS in titan, elige is nothing like that though, he is just... average.
2017-08-17 10:36
8 replies
just average prnt.sc/g9j4hj
2017-08-17 10:41
7 replies
#484
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Brazil adre221
He performed average against tier1 teams, and lost almost every match against them. Most of these teams are tier2/3, so yeah, nice try.
2017-08-17 10:57
6 replies
immortals navi astralis north tier 2/3 yes ofc
2017-08-17 10:58
5 replies
#488
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Brazil adre221
Tyloo big penta hellraisers optic nrg flipsid3 envyus
2017-08-17 10:59
4 replies
its like you see only the tier 2/3 teams still he peformed like a beast against tier 1 teamsmost of the time meanwhile taco most of the time is average prntscr.com/g9jgjh
2017-08-17 11:08
3 replies
#501
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Brazil adre221
He faced much better teams, also played more important matches like finals, taco's role isn't really to have good stats, he is that player who is willingly to be the first to die in the round to give the other players the opportunity to stay alive, he is playing a much more difficult role than elige, and the fact that he can still perform like this against tier1 teams in high pressure matches is impressive, elige is supposed to be the star player and he can't be much more better than taco, who's job IS to die. That's the difference right there.
2017-08-17 11:20
2 replies
He faced much better teams elige faced astralis and the only teams equally strong are faze and sk taco and you said Taco is not a support player, he is a pure entryfragger and elige is a entry fragger aswell most of the time taco lost his opening duels meanwhie elige won most of time his opening frag and we see elige is a better player than taco
2017-08-17 11:29
1 reply
#646
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Brazil adre221
SK doesn't rely on taco to get constant entry kills, it's not his role, his job is to create a opening in the site, which can be caused by making his opponents retreat, do a lot of damage, distract, etc. Kills are welcome, but not always needed. A team like liquid requires players like elige to do a risky play and have it pay off, and that's why it's so trash, SK can get aggressive but they don't need to, they do what's best for them to win the round, playing in a mindset like this requires much skill than being your average pugger in a tier3 team.
2017-08-18 00:03
#551
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Italy Gio_bose
Bro not a top thirteen team. We may not be a good as u but still have the respect to call us our actual rank
2017-08-17 13:33
1 reply
#648
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Brazil adre221
Sorry, just a bit of exaggeration, liquid is not that bad but it's absurd when people start comparing players of a top1 team to players who can't even make it to the major...
2017-08-18 00:06
taco is on astralis? what did i miss? who did he replace?
2017-08-17 17:42
1 reply
#647
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Brazil adre221
Sorry but astralis wouldn't be top1 not even if taco joined them.
2017-08-18 00:05
There are about 300 callouts in cs. Wouldnt take longer than few days to learn it in portugese
2017-08-17 12:11
3 replies
Man, portuguese is a very complex language. Just an example, even players from diferent regions from BR have diferent names for positions and callouts. Even an portuguese player have to take some time to adapt his language. And i forgot to mention the various accents we have. Its a continential country. It would be much easier for a portuguese speaking player to learn english.
2017-08-17 17:12
2 replies
Even if elige calls in english, im sure everyone else would understand.
2017-08-17 17:36
1 reply
Yeah, for sure. Again, If we were talking about SK, i would agree with you. The problem is for IMT guys to understand and teamplay. Just try to watch the twins playing NA rank S trying to communicate in english (gl btw, SK hate to play there) But lets forget that, various sources saying that ELiGE wont leave Liquid for now
2017-08-18 01:15
wtf? its csgo. you dont need to speech. as long as you know the callouts and can understand them then its good .
2017-08-17 15:06
Elige he is the north american player but the Liquid he is the brazilian star
2017-08-17 06:46
#22
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Europe vladick_69
broken tag
2017-08-17 02:07
#23
fr0a | 
Serbia Xempy
GOOD
2017-08-17 02:07
hey
2017-08-17 02:07
ELIGE SPEAKS PORTUGUESE?
2017-08-17 02:07
22 replies
yes, very well
2017-08-17 02:10
13 replies
why tf a polish kid form na knows how to speak portuguese?
2017-08-17 02:10
12 replies
#75
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North America s1mpliquid
he is really smart, his name comes from a spanish word which is "choose" so he probably knows spanish too
2017-08-17 02:12
6 replies
ye he looks like a smart kid
2017-08-17 02:14
5 replies
#273
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Brazil edgy_man
he is smart, he was named scholar of the year thecarbondalenews.com/article/20150224/N..
2017-08-17 03:51
3 replies
What
2017-08-17 04:18
god
2017-08-17 05:29
#318
jks | 
Australia Study
OMG
2017-08-17 05:36
He was also the valedictorian for his class. thetimes-tribune.com/news/carbondale-gra..
2017-08-17 15:05
maybe one of his parents speaks it.
2017-08-17 02:12
EliGE's ancestors moved to US 200 years ago. They are not Polish anymore.
2017-08-17 02:21
1 reply
So did the jews, ask Hitler If minds
2017-08-17 04:19
#233
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Brazil theambush
Because the BR Scene is the best and he knew that learning portuguese could give him a spot in a br team futurely
2017-08-17 03:10
1 reply
#409
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Germany b1azed
Danish scene not worst
2017-08-17 09:06
he speaks portuguese and has some knowledge of polish
2017-08-17 02:16
7 replies
I think he can understand some things but he doesn't speak portuguese. he can say some words but that's it. I think...haha
2017-08-17 02:28
6 replies
he's been learning as far as I know he didn't want to just know a couple words and songs
2017-08-17 02:28
5 replies
hum... the video that I saw is a little bit old, like 4 months ago I don't know if he's learned if he really learned that's great!
2017-08-17 02:33
4 replies
I guess he likes learning languages part of his family is polish and I know he can scratch a little bit on polish too
2017-08-17 02:33
3 replies
that's amazing I didn't know that.
2017-08-17 02:34
2 replies
the article that the other guy linked mentioned that elige was a pretty smart dude and was part of spanish club, which indicates that he's taken 3-4 years of spanish in high school and has the propensity to connect the dots between spanish and other latin based languages. if elige doesn't understand portuguese well now, if he joins a brazillian team he'd probably be able to at least understand what his teammates are saying pretty quick.
2017-08-17 07:37
1 reply
Exactly this. I am one of them peepz who has always had a liking to learning languages. Started learning English and Swedish when I was 9, took on Spanish, German and Latin when I was 13 and studied Japanese in university. If you like languages and have some background in them you learn very very quickly, and more importantly, you learn easily.
2017-08-17 08:34
are you fucking kidding me?
2017-08-17 02:07
#29
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Denmark andr3yume
wat
2017-08-17 02:07
"with Liquid's Jonathan "EliGE" Jablonowski, who speaks Portuguese" Wut
2017-08-17 02:07
1 reply
#175
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Brazil Setrock
He speaks a little bit of portuguese, look it up on YouTube. Or at least enough to play CS, some conflicts will be had because of the obvious language barrier, but I bet you he can still play.
2017-08-17 02:36
Jesus
2017-08-17 02:07
Rip Steel and boltz
2017-08-17 02:07
elige speaks portugese LOL WHAT
2017-08-17 02:07
What is broken tag
2017-08-17 02:08
OMG
2017-08-17 02:08
rip.
2017-08-17 02:08
Finally
2017-08-17 02:08
immortals will not back to major legend after the next major....
2017-08-17 02:08
Elige speaks Portuguese? Wtf
2017-08-17 02:08
3 replies
yep, there are a video when he was playing with SK speaking portuguese. youtube.com/watch?v=iRvGHzl5yNI
2017-08-17 02:20
#132
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Canada TwistZzZz
LETS GOOOO
2017-08-17 02:25
That's what I said to myself haha.
2017-08-17 02:44
not expected
2017-08-17 02:08
1 reply
It's like everything is coming from the left field this shuffle season; Zeus, c9 move, then this.
2017-08-17 07:58
#42
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Hungary StraYzie
kNg just barlely signed, and they are legends. Wat? Let only kNg leave, and fnx or horvy join
2017-08-17 02:08
18 replies
fnx is never playing with boltzz/steel again cause they fight
2017-08-17 02:19
11 replies
#118
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Hungary StraYzie
Than there is horvy. I hate kNg sooo much, but like the others inc. the Teles twins or "Yeahman-man"
2017-08-17 02:21
8 replies
if it wasn't for kNgV- the team wouldn't have gotten where they got
2017-08-17 02:29
7 replies
#163
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Hungary StraYzie
maybe, but I can still hate kNg for being who he is
2017-08-17 02:33
6 replies
you mean for being an asshat full of himself? well, kNg stands for kiNg he is probably playing a character
2017-08-17 02:34
5 replies
#176
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Hungary StraYzie
he is an offensive young c*nt with no respect
2017-08-17 02:36
2 replies
I agree great player, but I'd punch him (I'm BR)
2017-08-17 02:38
kNg is a legend
2017-08-17 02:52
In fact kng is the abbreviation of "calango" a kind of small lizard found in SA
2017-08-17 10:03
1 reply
oh my bad i thought it was king calango é deprê uahuahuahauhau
2017-08-17 22:33
Fnx and steel are friends again...maybe optic Will try to put steel as coach, and inthe line-up fnx, kng, hen1, Lucas1 and the other i dont know...
2017-08-17 02:51
1 reply
That would seem like a waste to put him as a coach where he wouldn't be able to call in game as much since the valve ruling. Steel has improved a lot since his luminosity days. He's not a liability individually anymore.
2017-08-17 08:05
Let their best player leave?
2017-08-17 11:14
5 replies
#503
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Hungary StraYzie
Their best player is hen1
2017-08-17 11:27
4 replies
No it isnt. Did you watch the majors? Kngv is at another level and its so fucked up because he is a fucking ass cunt. Not a warm star like forest. Hen1 is another cunts ass who does not deliver on important situations and cant rifle a shit worth of shit but hits some nice awp flicks. Still a cunt who cant deliver. For example he can't catch FalleN even once in a match. Unlike Allu or other good awpers.
2017-08-17 11:32
3 replies
#513
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Hungary StraYzie
I would only call kNg a cunt. Yes I watched all the Majors since Katowice 2014.(Only a few mathces from it, but I watched the whole Cologne 2014) I think that hen1, this Major even LUCAS and boltz for sure has more impact in the game.
2017-08-17 11:52
2 replies
Oh shit. we have an agreement then or at least a bit of an agreement?
2017-08-17 11:45
1 reply
#520
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Hungary StraYzie
Seems like :D
2017-08-17 11:48
#43
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Brazil Henr1qu1n
wtf bro wtf
2017-08-17 02:08
wow, that's very very sad.
2017-08-17 02:08
LOL RIP NA CS
2017-08-17 02:08
Lol childish issues...
2017-08-17 02:08
#47
JaCkz | 
United Kingdom DeKo^
elige speaks every language
2017-08-17 02:08
2 replies
#133
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Canada TwistZzZz
+1 elige is love I go gay for elige
2017-08-17 02:26
1 reply
he speaks romantic with a tic
2017-08-17 14:01
#49
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Brazil LiraBole
Omg what is happening with this teams. Omg so much transfers in a 2 month break.
2017-08-17 02:08
#50
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Germany sunnyrain
Both major finalists fall apart due to internal issues ...
2017-08-17 02:09
3 replies
That's what success does to many, practice isn't on the 'to do' as for now, as it def should be
2017-08-17 06:16
2 replies
gambit was broken befor the major and the win couldn't stop it
2017-08-17 11:47
1 reply
Probably didn't help with egos
2017-08-18 23:07
That's strange , after a second place in a major and they have differences hummm
2017-08-17 02:09
1 reply
just like gambit
2017-08-17 02:29
#52
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Germany Sabba1
not even monkeys can live together in peace
2017-08-17 02:09
2 replies
Neither can the nazis you fat fuck.
2017-08-17 11:16
Deutschelanistan...
2017-08-17 15:10
HEN1, KNG, FNX, Elige, and Lucas... would be a pretty slick team too. Wonder who would call for them.
2017-08-17 02:09
9 replies
who IGL then?
2017-08-17 02:18
2 replies
#269
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Germany uRaguuu
autist?
2017-08-17 03:39
1 reply
hahaha
2017-08-17 06:44
They would be so fucked. Only dumb players who can't call and Elige can't speak portuguese properly.
2017-08-17 02:18
5 replies
In fairness, since zews left the lineup Immortals have been one of the most scrimmiest tier-one teams... and they manage to have a good result or two throughout a season. If HEN1 (who called for Games Academy, way back when iirc) or FNX could at least control the direction of the team, they would be pretty good. Elige would have a steep learning curve in the beginning, but over time that should work itself out.
2017-08-17 02:22
4 replies
Hen1 never called. It was Taco. None of these guys are fit to call. It will be like n0thing's Cloud9.
2017-08-17 02:24
1 reply
Well, technically Peacemaker was IGL... but you're right. I was mis-remembering.
2017-08-17 02:28
G2 plays in the same way and is considered top 5, why it could not work for Immortals? They have a lot of good runs, trophies last year, deep runs in huge events this year... they are individually good, undeniable. Maybe a tactical IGL/Coach could break their impetus... We already saw how this with zews last year. Twins, fnx, kng and ELiGE is a hell of an INSANE lineup, tbh, if they can keep the explosive playstyle, this is a top 5 contender team for sure!
2017-08-17 02:34
1 reply
That's exactly what I'm saying, you're not looking for tactical excellence... just somebody to control the flow and ensure everyone is on the same page. Regardless, Elige isn't leaving Liquid so it's only a pipe-dream at this point.
2017-08-17 02:37
#54
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Brazil RauleS
broken tag
2017-08-17 02:09
#56
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Poland Shlatter
xDDD
2017-08-17 02:09
#57
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Brazil kal4sh
lul
2017-08-17 02:09
WTFFFFFF
2017-08-17 02:09
#59
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Sweden crindz
hen1 lucas1 kng fnx elige wow.. now that's an interesting lineup.
2017-08-17 02:11
3 replies
#141
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Canada TwistZzZz
ye who gonna call thou? glad to see my boi elige in a Portuguese team so he can get somewhere now
2017-08-17 02:27
2 replies
#156
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Sweden crindz
i think fnx could do it, lots of experience and known for playing smart. but good question, we'll see.
2017-08-17 02:30
Brazilian team** Brazilian is the ethnicity / race of the majority of players (4 out of 5) in that lineup. Portuguese is the language they speak.
2017-08-17 02:47
#61
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Brazil LeoAv
OMG Fnx, hen1, lucas1, kng and elige ? boltz, steel, horvy, yel, chelo (maybe zqk and idk)
2017-08-17 02:10
12 replies
zqk its probably worst br player ever,boltz should leave aswell
2017-08-17 02:19
5 replies
#122
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Brazil LeoAv
Zqk is horrible but he's friends with boltz and steel. Maluke is a good option, could bring the Idk together, a player with a very good aim
2017-08-17 02:22
4 replies
#125
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Brazil LeoAv
Maybe... Boltz, Steel, Horvy, Mixweel, +1 ? (Maybe tier 2 NA)
2017-08-17 02:22
3 replies
Mixwell doesn't speak Portuguese, does he?
2017-08-17 02:47
2 replies
#259
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Brazil LeoAv
But speaks Spanish, Brazilians can understand Spanish very well, but Spanish does not understand Portuguese so well
2017-08-17 03:33
1 reply
Ah, didn't know that - very interesting. I guess that'd be a pretty decent lineup, though I'd feel bad for NAF if mixwell left him alone :(
2017-08-17 04:37
i would like to see cogu as primary awper with boltz steel and horvy +1
2017-08-17 02:32
5 replies
Can cogu still hang though? I haven't actually watched him play.
2017-08-17 08:09
4 replies
no. he's horrible nowadays.
2017-08-17 08:37
3 replies
#606
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Brazil hunte[R]
not true, he's playing well
2017-08-17 17:15
2 replies
how many of his last games in the past months have u watched? 'well' isnt enough to be in a tier1-2 team tho.
2017-08-17 23:04
1 reply
#659
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Brazil hunte[R]
a few. with a better team I believe he can raise his game
2017-08-18 12:18
that team would actually be insane if they can get someone to IGL
2017-08-17 02:10
#64
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Brazil Diegho007
kng and internal issues... expected
2017-08-17 02:10
2 replies
#135
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Brazil donalld
so true
2017-08-17 02:26
+1
2017-08-17 15:11
wt?
2017-08-17 02:11
i think elige would fit right in with those guys
2017-08-17 02:11
1 reply
#227
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Italy steven513
LMAO
2017-08-17 03:01
#69
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Sweden godname
LOL
2017-08-17 02:11
wtf is happening, lol
2017-08-17 02:11
Typical Brazilian scenario.
2017-08-17 02:12
why though
2017-08-17 02:12
#78
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Estonia Rebae
LMAOO
2017-08-17 02:12
#82
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Turkey DebbSoray
3 screamers + fnx. Omg Elige's gonna have hard times...
2017-08-17 02:13
1 reply
Yeah, i can't believe Elige in this lineup, he will be crazy. xD
2017-08-17 12:49
ROFLMAO
2017-08-17 02:13
#86
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Other *Mip*
I like how the top 2 finishers at the major both want roster changes and to kick players... c s g o
2017-08-17 02:13
3 replies
gambit won major and already -coach -zeus
2017-08-17 02:14
1 reply
Really??
2017-08-17 02:18
#375
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Greece hekzy
Same for Dota2 (atleast last year) and LoL (every year).
2017-08-17 07:53
What the shit is going on ?!
2017-08-17 02:14
#92
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Portugal DrahLAN
LOL who the fuck will IGL? FNX Hen1 Lucas1 Kng on a team. they will never stop screaming. Boltz Steel Horvy Yel and chelo would be a way better team than those guys. Why would elige join them?
2017-08-17 02:14
7 replies
all i know steel and boltz didnt like fnx and hen1&lucas1 want to play with fnx
2017-08-17 02:16
5 replies
#104
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Portugal DrahLAN
I get the hen1 lucas1 side i just dont get why would elige join 4 "emotional" brazilians with no IGL
2017-08-17 02:18
4 replies
maybe the'yre friends but idk,c9 wanted elige but he refused.that might be sommething in ;_?
2017-08-17 02:18
fnx isn't emotional, what are you talking about?
2017-08-17 02:35
2 replies
#181
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Portugal DrahLAN
emotional was a bad word for him but fitted the other 3. Fnx is more of a bad boy doesn´t give a crap type of guy . Anyways he´s not good for the team mentally
2017-08-17 02:37
1 reply
yes, i agree with you, when fnx is motivated, he can be one of the best in the world, but when he's not, well... we all know what happens. But this happens when he is at the top, this may be a good thing afterall.
2017-08-17 02:40
With Hen1 and Lucas1 on the team, their sponsors will have to give them like 20 mice each tournament for when the twins slam their mice on the desk after each round they die.
2017-08-17 02:49
rip, money money and money,
2017-08-17 02:16
If 3 players leave, as example HEN1, Steel and KNG. Do you they earn the major spot by going on another org?
2017-08-17 02:17
6 replies
they do
2017-08-17 02:26
2 replies
so simply a free major spot for elige and fnx
2017-08-17 02:28
1 reply
pretty much
2017-08-17 02:31
#137
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United Arab Emirates p1peb0mb
yes.immortals will lose their major spot and the new organisation with the three players will get major spot.
2017-08-17 02:26
2 replies
also pro league spot?
2017-08-17 05:51
1 reply
Orgs own pro league spots
2017-08-17 11:09
#100
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Sweden Scar_face
NIBBA WHAT xD
2017-08-17 02:17
?? again to minor
2017-08-17 02:17
rofl, this is what happens when toxic brazilians are part of a team
2017-08-17 02:17
Optic will hire these players, fnx is already negotiating with them and the possibility of hiring is huge. Maybe the new optic lineup looks like this:yel,kng,fnx,Lucas,Hen1
2017-08-17 02:19
1 reply
3 awpers? I aren't think that
2017-08-18 15:43
team makes their greatest achievement yet and still folds. same with gambit. you win a major then swap players. just csgo things lul
2017-08-17 02:20
2 replies
Money talks - especially when you ask for a higher salary after doing good at a tournament. If your current organization says no to you asking for a higher salary, surely another organization will throw money at you in hopes of you bringing a major title to their name.
2017-08-17 02:50
1 reply
doesn't seem like thats what this is about though. "It is believed that LUCAS1, HEN1 and kNgV- are all keen to play alongside Lincoln "fnx" Lau, who is on Immortals' transfer list after being benched" seems like more of a player issue than organisational/financial.
2017-08-17 02:59
#115
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Brazil LucaS10
lol HEN1 LUCAS1 fnx kNg Elige best team!
2017-08-17 02:20
5 replies
#127
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Brazil Luiz664
Deus te ouça
2017-08-17 02:24
#143
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Brazil XEMBAO
POGCHAMP BRO
2017-08-17 02:27
Deus te ouça
2017-08-17 02:28
#277
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Brazil VictorGM_
Igl?
2017-08-17 04:01
1 reply
just rush B.
2017-08-18 16:05
#116
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Brazil assisz
WHAT THE FUCK???
2017-08-17 02:20
wtf??????
2017-08-17 02:21
#121
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Brazil VictorGM_
Optic? Hypeeeeee
2017-08-17 02:21
1 reply
good guess...
2017-08-17 10:55
#126
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Germany ConAction
wtf
2017-08-17 02:23
unexpected
2017-08-17 02:24
fnx,lucas, hen kng... their game house is going to be a night club
2017-08-17 02:24
2 replies
+1
2017-08-17 02:31
Haha true
2017-08-17 06:44
Wtf again
2017-08-17 02:25
lul, major finalist like gambit changing lineup xD
2017-08-17 02:26
#138
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Brazil XEMBAO
ELIGE - FNX - LUCAS1 - HEN1 E KNG POCHAMP
2017-08-17 02:26
3 replies
no IGL DansGame just braindead players running around
2017-08-17 02:38
2 replies
#188
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Brazil XEMBAO
lucas1 can IGL
2017-08-17 02:38
1 reply
no doubt. A fucking rock can IGL doesn't mean it will be good tho. Boltz IGLing is the only reason the team had any chance at making a deep tournament run
2017-08-17 02:39
BANGA QUEDA PRA MIM
2017-08-17 02:27
Expected
2017-08-17 02:27
runners-up on their facking first major and getting these internal problemas right after.. right.. way to go immortals, YAY.. who would IGL this team? ... GG
2017-08-17 02:28
1 reply
Tira o bit da Team One.. Hahaha
2017-08-17 02:32
Elige, fnx, Lucas1, Hen1, kNgV. Ok, nice line-up. But what org they will play?? Maybe the return of TSM?!
2017-08-17 02:30
2 replies
#174
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Sweden crindz
optic maybe
2017-08-17 02:35
mibr
2017-08-17 02:38
#170
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Brazil hugoooo
PGL Krakow was for sure a weird major. BOTH FINALISTS changing lineups less than one month after it.
2017-08-17 02:34
#171
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North America MootK
Wait, is this why Brazilians like Elige so much and want him on their teams? He actually speaks Portuguese?
2017-08-17 02:34
6 replies
#177
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Sweden crindz
indeed
2017-08-17 02:36
sherlock holmes
2017-08-17 02:37
sherlock holmes
2017-08-17 02:37
xeroque rolmes
2017-08-17 02:38
his portuguese is as good as fnx's english
2017-08-17 02:44
1 reply
+1
2017-08-17 14:46
LUL ez Loosing Legend spot at next major 4 imt org
2017-08-17 02:35
#178
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Brazil Gullit
WTF bro
2017-08-17 02:36
#192
NiKo | 
Europe trey_
lmao brazilans and elige pls no it would be soooo bad for him
2017-08-17 02:40
1 reply
lmao, elige is a waste of talent with those bots igls from NA, if he play with br team he will become one of the best players in the world, wait and see
2017-08-17 02:45
Valve changed it so the players keep the major spot not the org so as long as 3 of them stick together it doesn't matter which org they go to they will keep their spot and not have to go through the minor qualifier.
2017-08-17 02:40
#195
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Chile nachooww
lolololol
2017-08-17 02:41
#196
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Brazil danielm09
wtf
2017-08-17 02:42
" "EliGE" Jablonowski, who speaks Portuguese" Nonsense, he knows some words that's all lol He could never make a full sentence
2017-08-17 02:42
enjoy your tier 3 because of girly fights.
2017-08-17 02:45
Welp, it was obvious that they were going to do some shit, both twins were together with fnx for a long time(partying all over the place). That's putting friendship over career.
2017-08-17 02:45
2 replies
#212
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Brazil davidzor
+1
2017-08-17 02:51
+1
2017-08-17 02:53
#204
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Brazil Akaerri
Despicable traitors
2017-08-17 02:46
Well this news have already a movie who talks about. Kek (joking)
2017-08-17 02:47
cs scene is gone lmfao
2017-08-17 02:49
WTF
2017-08-17 02:53
dying scene for sure
2017-08-17 02:54
#218
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Argentina Zestv2
OTA
2017-08-17 02:58
WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
2017-08-17 02:59
elige playing with 3 crazy party hard dudes (fnx, lucas1, kng)... it's really not hard to realize that it wouldn't work, not to mention that this lineup would not have an igl
2017-08-17 03:00
FOX FNX HEN1 LUCAS KNG= MAJOR WINNERS
2017-08-17 03:00
1 reply
3 awpers?? lul
2017-08-17 03:05
WTF
2017-08-17 03:00
Brazilians are also salty in each other lol. Such losers
2017-08-17 03:00
1 reply
best ragers on cs scene, after russians.
2017-08-17 03:22
LMFAO backstabbing Brazilians at it again.
2017-08-17 03:01
do they have girlfriends though? FNX is always dangerous in and out of game :D
2017-08-17 03:02
LUL
2017-08-17 03:03
I just hope that Lucas1 this time isn't drunk
2017-08-17 03:08
Big three of dumbass. Idiotas.
2017-08-17 03:09
The 3 monkeys want to part ways with the 2 humans. What a surprise.
2017-08-17 03:13
1 reply
The saviours!!
2017-08-17 03:19
They party too hard, Elige wouldn't fit that well + where's the igl?
2017-08-17 03:21
This team will be a time bomb
2017-08-17 03:23
#248
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Malaysia phyzell
Fascist riot.
2017-08-17 03:24
#254
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Australia aucs
Ez optic legend spot in next major.
2017-08-17 03:27
NICE PogChamp ez4jonatao and kng
2017-08-17 03:28
HHAHAHHAHAHHAH WTF
2017-08-17 03:31
#260
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Brazil davidzor
FNX lacks of professionalism. It's not an opinion it's a fact. That team with Elige will never happen, if it'd happen they'd disband on less than 6 months.
2017-08-17 03:33
2 replies
To complete this nonsense team we need peacemaker as a coach
2017-08-17 03:36
1 reply
Acid gaming incoming
2017-08-17 09:50
So, basically both best teams from major broke down after the major.
2017-08-17 03:33
1 reply
Worst major ever
2017-08-17 05:43
Chaos
2017-08-17 03:34
Disband incoming... Pogchamp
2017-08-17 03:35
#265
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Malaysia phyzell
They're still jumping on the bed! - Zakk , 2017
2017-08-17 03:36
Huge mistake! And now they are asking to leave for free cuz they are BR, lol. Boltz and Steel had no respect from this group of players. Its time to cut them off and stay only with those who respect you for real!
2017-08-17 03:37
#268
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United States y0rk
Jesus just deal with it and play Counter Strike
2017-08-17 03:39
#270
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Germany uRaguuu
both major final teams who went as big underdogs in it, are changing everything after major... wtf? "professional" cs xDDDDD
2017-08-17 03:42
Great twist
2017-08-17 03:52
Yeet now C9 should have an easy time qualifying for NY :)))))))
2017-08-17 04:04
Brazilians never respect the contracts they sign. They receive a better contract offer from another org and start to sabotage their current org. It's the LG-SK drama all over again.
2017-08-17 04:08
1 reply
That's nature dude.. Immortals is not relevant on CS:GO. This squad made them relevant. They can leave if a better org offers them more money. Their career is short, they need to seize it!
2017-08-17 04:25
Why in God's name does EliGE speak Portuguese
2017-08-17 04:10
1 reply
AHAHAHAHAHA
2017-08-17 06:54
LUL
2017-08-17 04:16
wait til fnx fucks elige's fleshlight...
2017-08-17 04:20
Seriously? Are you serious-ly? Are you Crazy in my eyes?
2017-08-17 04:20
Kkkkkkkkkkkkkk EliGE nao sabe no que ta se metendo, time com 4 fudidos
2017-08-17 04:31
4 fuckbois in the same team??? Party rock every day
2017-08-17 04:36
#295
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World smash143
Elige is a smart guy. Why would he join a team of 4 party animals that he can barely talk to. He's better off joining steel and boltz who seem like the more level headed guys and can speak english. Rumour makes no sense.
2017-08-17 04:42
1 reply
+1
2017-08-17 13:53
cs players issue nowdays
2017-08-17 04:41
this is so fucking stupid LOL
2017-08-17 04:44
Immortals Maluk3 and Immortals pava confirmed. RIP Team One O_O
2017-08-17 04:57
Immortals are ****
2017-08-17 05:01
#304
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Brazil oldStar
GL boltz and steel.
2017-08-17 05:03
#305
steel | 
Other ToRu
new IMT Boltz Steelega Horvy Elige Nifty fuck braindead trio
2017-08-17 05:03
3 replies
They will speak portuguenglish? Kek
2017-08-19 02:39
2 replies
#670
steel | 
Other ToRu
Steelega and zakk speak Boltz and Horvy can learn
2017-08-19 07:49
1 reply
Dont know who is the real braindead xD
2017-08-19 09:54
Elige barely speak pr lol nice
2017-08-17 05:06
#308
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United States MrNoodle
No matter what happens to this core of players, their run the the finals is as solid as steel bars bolted together. Their achievement, along with other teams' upsets, will live on immortally.
2017-08-17 05:12
Wtf since when does Elige speak Portuguese?!?! Fookin wizard this dude.
2017-08-17 05:16
5 replies
There are a lot of people who say he knows how to speak Portuguese...
2017-08-17 05:24
he doesnt, just brazilian retards think he does, he speaks the basic of the basics
2017-08-17 05:42
3 replies
He speaks almost better than kng
2017-08-17 05:46
2 replies
Well that's not nice to compare into a monkey
2017-08-17 06:20
Lol
2017-08-17 06:55
already see team one getting destroyed b4 esea global challenge because of this
2017-08-17 05:32
#319
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Australia closet
noooooo whyyyy :((
2017-08-17 05:37
fnx comeback lets go
2017-08-17 05:48
#327
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Brazil Collee
Wtf they just reached the finals of a major Also Elige's portuguese isn't good enough, don't know why people think this. They would definitely need a lot of time. They wouldn't even have someone decent to igl
2017-08-17 05:59
lmao those 3+fnx and elige tier 2 at best. Better off just sticking together but w/e
2017-08-17 05:59
IMT conflict- monkeys vs. normal people monkeys want to leave to join another monkey and some other unknown player (possibly one of the most toxic NA players) normal people are like 'but you signed a contract,' and roster changes are due in 2 days lol
2017-08-17 06:19
1 reply
+1
2017-08-17 07:03
hen1 and lucas1 will NEVER play on a different team, even knowing that IMT wanted to kick lucas1... dumb move
2017-08-17 06:48
Kng causing problems even also boosting the problems jezz..
2017-08-17 06:57
#352
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Brazil Feio91
I have one question: Elige do you like parties? LOL
2017-08-17 07:05
1 reply
he would be sitting in corner with a phone and raging on social networks how these parties suck.
2017-08-17 16:18
#353
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Austria t47ED
there is no friendship anymore in pro teams?
2017-08-17 07:11
1 reply
Astralis
2017-08-17 16:42
#354
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Kazakhstan MadKazakh
What is happening with the major finalists? ))
2017-08-17 07:13
#358
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Luxembourg alex24
just disband, make the pro scene more cleaner
2017-08-17 07:25
Can someone tell me which mothers/gfs did fnx bang ? I thought it was fer's gf and now twins mother but it doesnt look like that.
2017-08-17 07:26
kNg, lucas1, hen1 want to leave So there are only normal people left in the team. I respect that. Get rid of the toxic side of Immortals.
2017-08-17 07:27
CHELO YEL/IDK AND PAVA PLS PLS PLS IMMORTALS DO THIS PLEASE PRETTY PLEASE
2017-08-17 07:28
3 replies
Why pava? He just have experience but he cant reach a top level skill, he just cant
2017-08-19 02:36
2 replies
dude .-. wtf Witch Chelo iDK Steel and Boltz being the fraggers he doesn't even need to be a good fragger, STILL, Pava is easily a better fragger than Pronax He can do it
2017-08-19 03:18
1 reply
To play at top level, teams SHOULD have an igl that can frag a little at least, pava cant do it against tier5 brazilian teams, imagine on the international scene, just no
2017-08-19 09:51
this kNg guy is a criminal and he's persuading these stupid favela twins to do what he wants, and still they want to play with a junkie known for lack of commitment LOL. Elige's brain has melted if he really considers making a team with these retards
2017-08-17 07:30
1 reply
first brazil brain here that works
2017-08-17 09:35
Elige, an american pole who speaks Portuguese?
2017-08-17 07:34
>says elige speaks portuguese >links a video in which he doesn't speak a single word in portuguese
2017-08-17 07:43
inside LUCAS1 HEN1 kNgV n0thing Shroud
2017-08-17 07:42
3 replies
2 animals, 2 junkies, 1 school shooter. sounds like an Adam Sandler movie
2017-08-17 07:51
2 replies
#524
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United Kingdom peaks
rofl
2017-08-17 12:03
#652
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Portugal mrsc
lmaoooo
2017-08-18 01:30
International teams are very popular nowadays.
2017-08-17 07:46
lmao top two teams at major fucking up their rosters afterwards
2017-08-17 07:49
Brazilians of course.
2017-08-17 07:51
What the actual heck is haplening... although I'd love to see then playing with fnx again
2017-08-17 07:51
#389
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Poland ramones1
wtf
2017-08-17 08:20
ahaha team-toxic
2017-08-17 08:29
Elige is finally able to play with BRs
2017-08-17 08:57
lol
2017-08-17 09:00
both Major finalists break up right after, wtf are you doing
2017-08-17 09:09
#412
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United Kingdom swellis
good move for boltz and steel getting rid of hen1, guy is ridiculously overrated
2017-08-17 09:10
didnt they just sign kng after the major?? and now he wants to leave?? lmao
2017-08-17 09:12
#415
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Latvia Ke]R[4u
this is fucked up, 50 iq roster change
2017-08-17 09:27
#416
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Korea Damianlee
LUCAS , hen1 , elige , fnx and kng sounds quite solid
2017-08-17 09:29
1 reply
#418
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Latvia Ke]R[4u
sounds like "3 months and disband" to me
2017-08-17 09:32
a team with no igl gg
2017-08-17 09:37
1 reply
they will just smoke weed every day
2017-08-17 09:58
Let me explain the situation for people out of the loop. Steel stole 2 banana's from Hen1 during breakfast and hen1 asked him to give them back or he will bang his mom. Steel obviously refused and this ordeal happened.
2017-08-17 09:38
as if a no-emotion-elige would work with 4 monkeys going apeshit every round xd
2017-08-17 09:42
1 reply
yeah, that sounds interresting.
2017-08-17 12:22
#438
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Bulgaria TEDDSENN
lol
2017-08-17 10:02
what is this game man
2017-08-17 10:05
Forget about everything this article says and focus on just this. ELIGE SPEAKS PORTUGESE?????? Who the hell chooses to learn that language outside of South America and Portugal. Spanish French Russian (which is pretty fun) Chinese German Literally anything but portugese ahhahahahahahahahahahahah
2017-08-17 10:07
4 replies
the thing is he doesn't really speak it. they wrote "who speaks portuguese" and liked a video in which he doesn't say 1 word in portuguese xd
2017-08-17 10:25
With Portuguese the jump to Spanish or even Italian is quite easy. Also, once Brazil gets rid of all the corruption they have, they will be a booming economy. The same with all the African countries that speak Portuguese. Meanwhile you probably only speak shit "English". ATM Portuguese would still be above German or French in your list, which proves that you have no clue what you are talking about. But i understand, you're American, not a lot of IQ in the gene pool, and probably culture isn't also the strongest weapon in your arsenal.
2017-08-17 14:23
2 replies
Okay, since you feel the need to be an asshole, even though I just simply pointed out a clear flaw in the logic of learning a shit language, I'll return the favor. 1. Maybe so, but just learn Spanish fuck Portuguese. 2. As if Brazil would ever get rid of corruption, that's their specialty. Without corruption Brazil just doesn't exist. 3. The way you say that asks like all of Africa speaks Portuguese, but you monkeys only settled a small bit of Africa, because your empire was trash. Brazil, Goa, Angola, Mozambique, Cape Verde, Guinea-Bissau, São Tomé and Principe those are the only countries in the world that speak it. And 85%+ of the population that speaks Portuguese are Brazilian, so you cant really count Africa in there. 4. I don't only speak "English", why the fuck you put the quotes is beyond me. Maybe because you're an uncivilized asshole just like the rest of you monkeys. 5. Although Portuguese is spoken by more people than German and French, again that's thanks to Brazil, a literal shit hole. 6. I am a proud American, I have a well above average IQ, and culture is not a weapon, but if it was I would have that locked down thanks to years of world studies. Meanwhile you're a monkey who managed to hit a bunch of keys on a keyboard
2017-08-17 23:14
1 reply
The cow boy never got out of Texas. Rednek level is high, chill out country boy.
2017-08-18 02:10
#446
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Brazil tcesarsc
Honestly the talent at fnx-hen1-lucas1-kng core is off the roofs. But I really don't know about their commitment. They just don't show that professionalism vibe that you see at all the SK members. If someone like Fallen was the fifth, I'd be hyped as fuck, because he's a person meant to be a leader and would show the direction. But who's gonna show the direction in this new team I have no idea. Fnx is insanely smart but was never a talkative guy while playing, the twins have good individual knowledge but poor macro knowledge it seems, kng I don't know but I'd guess he isn't experienced at IGLing too. It's one of the riskiest changes I seen but at least the potential is still very very high.
2017-08-17 10:08
SK Immortals(steal LG and other players) NEW immortals, fnx hen1, etc = 3 good Brazilian teams youtube.com/watch?v=l1dnqKGuezo
2017-08-17 10:11
#457
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Netherlands Darkrain
a source close to the team has told HLTV.org. snitch
2017-08-17 10:24
#461
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Russia Sur10n
is this a joke?is crank hltv editor right now?
2017-08-17 10:29
May be Optic could sign them?
2017-08-17 10:30
2 replies
But honestly, if Elige speaks portugese then -TACO +Elige and SK will be unbeatable.
2017-08-17 10:35
1 reply
#492
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World madman112
This is true but I doubt ELiGE has the same working mentality as everyone in SK + when they live in a teamhouse they are like a family, their personalities have to match well in order to make the team work
2017-08-17 11:06
#463
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CIS vreiden
rip
2017-08-17 10:30
Who's IGL in Immortals atm?
2017-08-17 10:31
2 replies
Used to be steelega but now is boltz
2017-08-19 09:56
1 reply
I've already asked immortals in twitter, anyway ty:D
2017-08-19 10:31
Cuz fuck them IGLs, right? Let's create a mix of 5 players and suck.
2017-08-17 10:38
#478
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Romania Tise
ROFL, wtf ??
2017-08-17 10:48
both major finalist disbanding OMEGALUL what did steel and boltz do so terrible??
2017-08-17 10:50
2 replies
Kept their feet on the ground and didn't wanted to go nuts and play in a pre-karrigan faze style
2017-08-17 18:56
They have a more focused mind. Its a personality thing!
2017-08-18 09:03
ok so now i understand all of these pictures together with FNX on instagram etc... it will be a great team but they need someone stable and good igl
2017-08-17 10:51
#502
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Singapore derpydm
what's next? device to North? 4Head these transfers are getting out of hand i swear
2017-08-17 11:21
Boltz is better than all of them lmao
2017-08-17 11:33
1 reply
+1
2017-08-19 09:57
xDDDDD
2017-08-17 11:36
every team got crazy shuffle but always only one stay the same: VIRTUS.PRO :) :)
2017-08-17 11:37
8 replies
GOLDEN FIVE
2017-08-17 11:48
3 replies
There are no other players in poland...
2017-08-17 12:03
2 replies
well you're actually right, i'm pretty sure they would already replace someone if there would be possibility
2017-08-17 12:19
michu, reatz even mouzinho but VP are family.
2017-08-17 13:13
#542
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Romania Tise
Because there are no other polish players that can reach the level that VP's roster plays.
2017-08-17 13:05
3 replies
michu-he was playing with vp as a sub and he showed that he can reach the same level as vp, but VP are family they wont do any changes.
2017-08-17 13:12
2 replies
#546
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Romania Tise
VP took last place, eliminated by liquid. Michu was the worst player on mirage but second best on Overpass. I don't think those are good results.
2017-08-17 13:19
1 reply
Dont look too much at statistics. We are talking about possibly changes in VP but we all know that first changes in vp can comes maybe in 5 years xDD so that still no sense, but MICHU>ALL OTHER PL players not from vp
2017-08-17 13:26
we make major finals - lets break up
2017-08-17 11:42
wtf is going on XD
2017-08-17 11:51
#534
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Poland Mval
Like wtf -.- Huge pity...
2017-08-17 12:37
this just sounds all wrong
2017-08-17 12:42
What a fucking team honestly.. Elige, fnx, kng, lucas and hen1
2017-08-17 12:50
-Taco +Boltz
2017-08-17 13:40
6 replies
I think steel would be better. Boltz is a too passive player
2017-08-17 13:51
5 replies
But Boltz has more of a clutch. I think he'd fit better into Taco's place. Taco is not aggressive either. To hold a bomb or stay in a lurker does not have to be. What do u think?
2017-08-17 14:06
4 replies
SK players are more about brain than aim. Steelega is that kind of guy. BTW, we'll not see TACO out of SK
2017-08-17 14:08
3 replies
Yeah, i know.
2017-08-17 14:11
Steelega is a shit player
2017-08-17 14:42
1 reply
If wasnt his performance at majot imt would never made finals
2017-08-19 02:25
WHo is IGL in Immortals?
2017-08-17 14:23
kngV aka rat they gave him chance and now he ruins the team
2017-08-17 14:24
lmao
2017-08-17 14:40
Forget Elige it won't happen. If these trio depart they will bring some local brazilian player... it can be: 1. Bit (IGL support) 2. TRK and IDK (both rise talents)
2017-08-17 14:59
Lmao HLTV is dumb. Even Fox that is portuguese had trouble communicating in-game with SK because of the difference in callouts and different slangs/sentence formation while talking fast. Now imagine a guy that barely speaks portuguese. It would be way easier for them to communicate in English at that point, since they all have played rank s for a good time. And then you have way more options than Elige. And as much as Elige is friendly with the BR players, it's a totally different thing to live and be togheter in a team. Now for Lucas, Hen and KNG, amazing players but not so mature, just like fnx. For me steel and boltz were the pillars holding IMT up. I don't exactly like Zakk, but all this sound like a really dumb decision. IMT problem was always lack of discipline in-game, not skill. So you remove the 2 players that had their feet more on the ground and you are left with a pre-Karrigan Faze style of team but weaker. Needless to say they will probably not achieve much.
2017-08-17 15:11
1 reply
#601
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Brazil donalld
+1
2017-08-17 15:53
gambit on suicide watch for ruining the most sportsmanlike team ever
2017-08-17 15:29
All four to optic, -mixwell back to EU
2017-08-17 15:32
Broken by gambit like a schoolgirl by a fat old dude in one of them japanese comics.
2017-08-17 15:41
4 replies
I doubt it. Gambit won the major and changed the team because of internal fights. Had IMT win it they would probably still do the same, as the twins and Kng are much more hot-headed and prone to dumb decisions than Gambit players.
2017-08-17 15:45
3 replies
Thank mr I_c_what_are_u_want_there
2017-08-17 15:45
1 reply
no problem dude appreciated have a nice day
2017-08-17 15:46
"...as the twins and Kng are much more hot-headed and prone to dumb decisions than Gambit players." lmao and that's actually true
2017-08-17 20:17
#607
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Brazil arrozz
what the fucking fuck?
2017-08-17 17:17
HeN1 kNg Lucas1 fnx EliGE ;o
2017-08-17 18:47
EliGE won't leave Liquid.
2017-08-17 19:10
RIP! We smart, we loyal, we friendly, we are from BRAZIL! Kreygasm
2017-08-17 19:11
#622
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World Sins
Bad b8 m8s, KNG won't leave IMT.
2017-08-17 19:13
Twitch Chat >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hltv comments
2017-08-17 19:15
wtf? RIP IMT
2017-08-17 19:34
#627
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Netherlands Yak_41M
Fallen just tweeted they are staying together?
2017-08-17 20:24
2 replies
#634
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Brazil mibrzera
they "SK"
2017-08-17 21:50
1 reply
#636
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Netherlands Yak_41M
haha yeah im dumb, just scanned over it
2017-08-17 22:00
#635
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Brazil erfur
The problem is hiring Horvy... They dont want to twitter.com/kngvito/status/8982144588787.. "And remembering that I dont want to and never wanted to leave the immortals, but to hire someone to shade someone, it was a shot in the foot!"
2017-08-17 21:53
nao sei o que esses mlks tem na cabeca!
2017-08-17 22:56
1 reply
#645
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Brazil spwwwwww
merda
2017-08-18 00:00
#656
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Brazil plumee
omg
2017-08-18 02:28
monkey loyalty LUL
2017-08-20 08:34
NT FAKE HLTV NEWS MAKE CS GREAT AGAIN IMMORTALS 4TH HLTV RANKING
2017-08-22 01:44
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