Immortals in turmoil as trio ask to leave

Immortals' squad is in disarray as a result of ongoing internal issues, with several players having asked to leave the organisation, a source close to the team has told HLTV.org.

With the transfer window in the ESL Pro League about to shut, Immortals have a major headache to deal with as Lucas "LUCAS1" Teles, Henrique "HEN1" Teles and Vito "kNgV-" Giuseppe have all asked to be allowed to leave the organisation due to internal differences with the remaining players and with coach Rafael "zakk" Fernandes.

The news will come as a shock to many, considering that Immortals' runner-up finish at PGL Major Krakow was the team's greatest achievement ever. After the event, the North American organisation tied down the services of kNgV-, who had been on loan from Red Reserve.

The future of Immortals' squad is in doubt

The unhappy trio have expressed their dissatisfaction to Immortals CEO Noah Whinston, who told the players that, even though he will not stand in the way of a transfer, they can only leave if their release clauses are met.

It is believed that LUCAS1, HEN1 and kNgV- are all keen to play alongside Lincoln "fnx" Lau, who is on Immortals' transfer list after being benched by the team in May, with Liquid's Jonathan "EliGE" Jablonowski, who speaks Portuguese, high on the list of potential candidates for the fifth position.

The future of the Brazilian team is now at an impasse. Immortals know that, should they sell the majority of their squad, they will automatically lose their spot at the next Major, which could very well play a key role in negotiations. The North American organisation have reached an agreement with k1ck for João "horvy" Horvath, who does not know what the roster will look like when he arrives in the United States.

Registration deadline for the ESL Pro League is Friday 09:00 (Thursday 23:59 PDT), with teams allowed to change just two players after that. Immortals will take on SK in their first match in the ESL Pro League, on August 25 at 03:20.

United States Jonathan 'EliGE' Jablonowski
Jonathan 'EliGE' Jablonowski
Age:
22
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.08
Maps played:
1148
KPR:
0.76
DPR:
0.69
APR:
0.16
Brazil João 'horvy' Horvath
João 'horvy' Horvath
Age:
21
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.98
Maps played:
201
KPR:
0.65
DPR:
0.65
APR:
0.11
Brazil Henrique 'HEN1' Teles
Henrique 'HEN1' Teles
Age:
24
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.11
Maps played:
738
KPR:
0.72
DPR:
0.58
APR:
0.12
Brazil Lucas 'LUCAS1' Teles
Lucas 'LUCAS1' Teles
Age:
24
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.98
Maps played:
765
KPR:
0.67
DPR:
0.67
APR:
0.16
Brazil Rafael 'zakk' Fernandes
Rafael 'zakk' Fernandes
Age:
-
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
0.76
Maps played:
95
KPR:
0.51
DPR:
0.70
APR:
0.13
Brazil Vito 'kNgV-' Giuseppe
Vito 'kNgV-' Giuseppe
Age:
26
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.15
Maps played:
497
KPR:
0.79
DPR:
0.64
APR:
0.10
Brazil Lincoln 'fnx' Lau
Lincoln 'fnx' Lau
Age:
29
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.06
Maps played:
489
KPR:
0.73
DPR:
0.66
APR:
0.16
#3
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Norway Eng1s 
hm
2017-08-17 02:06
kng and fnx together again like in the end of cs 1.6 it will be awesome to see that time they defeated fallen team
2017-08-17 13:33
#559
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Brazil luconesc 
i hope you are being ironic, like your name is saying you are...
2017-08-17 13:52
They need a good igl now what about bit1 ??? he is fnx old friend and igl of teamone, top1 BR team atm
2017-08-17 14:29
#591
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Brazil luconesc 
boltz is a good igl, lead then in to major finals
2017-08-17 15:14
#609
mezii | 
United Kingdom salad! 
they just asked to leave boltz, are you okay
2017-08-17 17:22
#679
ottoNd | 
Brazil wIDt 
Isn't steel the current igl?
2017-08-19 18:41
#680
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Brazil luconesc 
nope, steel passed the igl position to boltz, even before the major boltz was the one making the calls.
2017-08-19 20:05
#612
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Brazil [JH] 
optic gaming: fnx, hen1, lucas1, kngv, mixwell
2017-08-17 18:26
Mixwell just speak english and spanish, but the portugues brazilian isnt dificult, so, maybe
2017-08-17 18:40
For someone who already speaks spanish it's easier. But other then that it's one of the hardest. Hope they get a 5th brazilian that understands they are 4 bad boys and not a guy from a different culture. Edit: OH! Now I saw the horvy news. That's why the trio clashed with the rest of them and the org.
2017-08-17 19:01
you gotta be kidding...
2017-08-17 21:01
#632
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Brazil mineraum 
actually, portuguese is known from being one of the hardest languages spoken, but portuguese and spanish, basically, sounds the same, they can understand each other
2017-08-17 21:32
hen,kng and mixwell... 3 awps?
2017-08-17 20:02
#629
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Portugal Nn1nho91 
3 Awpers in team is not a good ideia!!!
2017-08-17 21:04
2017-08-17 22:00
#655
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Brazil Jack3D_br 
omg, he hates but he is a prodigy in that weapon!
2017-08-18 02:11
#662
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World neomax360 
LMAO keep your deep dream for you. Your logic put KNG and fNX = defeating SK. LMAO that is pure dream
2017-08-18 21:06
can you read? i dont know where are you from but look in google translator for "that time" that time (in the end of 1.6) they defeated fallen 1.6 team that use to dominat cs 1.6 in brazil
2017-08-19 15:30
thought the same, just "hm" :D can imagine that IMT keeps the trio, fnx is already on the roster and then adds elige. the others can leave.
2017-08-17 14:23
I say just grab her by the pussy!
2017-08-17 19:08
wtf
2017-08-17 02:06
this feels like a one night of drinking, drama fight. and why the hell would elige of all people join these dudes. not askin u kimmel. just posting. :)
2017-08-17 03:12
#600
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Brazil bFaria 
Agree. This sounds VERY weird. These guys have been playing together for years with Boltz and Steel. Now, just after reaching finals, they suddenly wanna leave and join fnx? hmm
2017-08-17 15:49
Egos can come out when big results happen.
2017-08-17 16:11
According to what kNg is tweeting the part who wants a change is the org and the other guys. The trio is against it. Don't know what it is tho.
2017-08-17 18:58
Ahhh, we will see what happens then!
2017-08-17 19:01
wat
2017-08-17 02:06
#671
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Finland Gutsx 
It's probably FNX's fault, it destroys all teams, even away from them.
2017-08-19 09:20
lol
2017-08-17 02:06
#7
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Denmark JustYes 
wtf
2017-08-17 02:06
#8
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Singapore repu1se 
Why would elige want to play with these guys lol
2017-08-17 02:08
They're friends
2017-08-17 02:12
elige loves to play with brazilian, imagine a cold murica playing with hardcore madness funniest brazilians ever (hen1 / lucas1), after a week he will probably see them as boring people tho.
2017-08-17 02:17
#282
lover | 
Other Gala0 
In pub He probably wouldnt like to live with 4 monkeys listening to funk, eating bananas and screaming about football
2017-08-17 04:12
#382
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Slovakia TatKo 
Bruh
2017-08-17 08:12
#383
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Turkey orox2 
shots fired
2017-08-17 08:14
rekt
2017-08-17 08:25
Wow savage
2017-08-17 11:01
#538
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Russia KenyaWest 
Supa hot fire
2017-08-17 12:48
Rich coming from the refugee
2017-08-17 13:46
#581
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Brazil mineraum 
so much trash talk lul
2017-08-17 14:50
#593
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African Union hdlmb 
What do you mean funk? Lol surely they dont listen to funk
2017-08-17 15:27
#630
Brazil dkf 
He probably means "funk carioca", which is sort of like rap and hip hop with more bass, and with more sexual themes overall. Its regarded as poor people's music. Nothing to do with american funk music.
2017-08-17 21:23
#633
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African Union hdlmb 
Fair enough. Didn't know this.
2017-08-17 21:49
#649
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Brazil acci_ 
reported. I am just helping our community =)
2017-08-18 00:20
because of the language?
2017-08-17 02:22
Probably because they're better than the NA trash he has to play with otherwise.
2017-08-17 02:34
#279
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United States PolerSS 
+1
2017-08-17 04:07
#312
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Brazil stingers 
flag does not check out
2017-08-17 05:19
#529
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Europe w1ntermu7e 
But he is right
2017-08-17 12:16
Not everyone who lives here pulls the flag over their eyes :D
2017-08-17 14:24
why would he want to play with NA is a better question
2017-08-17 03:12
+1 this is exciting news i want this to happen
2017-08-17 03:27
Why wouldn't he? LUCAS1, HEN1, kNgV-, fnx and EliGE would be a pretty badass lineup. Far far better than EliGE's current team at least.
2017-08-17 08:21
EliGe it's a good guy, he don't talk sh*t, LUCAS, HEN1 are literally crazy, always drunk and talking sh*t, but also they are good players, but i don't think EliGe can fit playing with IMT
2017-08-17 13:21
#570
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Sri Lanka 1v1meRust 
you can say shit here, it's fine just don't be racist and it's all gucci
2017-08-17 14:15
oh okay xd thx
2017-08-18 00:59
#590
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Brazil theambush 
Why? Hahah what do u think? Cuz B R teams has more potencial than na scene
2017-08-17 15:13
a
2017-08-17 02:06
WHAT
2017-08-17 02:06
#12
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CIS sergioff 
ROFL
2017-08-17 02:06
#13
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Sweden 133665 
lol
2017-08-17 02:06
elige?
2017-08-17 02:06
#15
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Belgium BIG__DADDY 
noobs
2017-08-17 02:06
#207
fnx | 
Brazil Nimpey 
"fan of maiami flamingos" hmmm yeah.
2017-08-17 02:47
MIAMI FLAMINGOS IN 2K17 LUL
2017-08-17 03:26
TEMPO STORM IN 2K17 LUL
2017-08-17 10:59
Fair
2017-08-17 11:32
#555
RpK | 
Iceland pumtac 
Kebab in 2k17 LUL no
2017-08-17 13:41
Its hilarious how you can bait 2 BRs with just 1 word
2017-08-17 08:46
One word is ok
2017-08-17 13:40
first edit: :(
2017-08-17 02:07
rip edit: :(
2017-08-17 08:14
Elige?
2017-08-17 02:07
#20
keev | 
Germany eXoNaTioN 
WTF
2017-08-17 02:07
Elige speaks Portuguese? Interesting AF
2017-08-17 02:07
Internet Explorer user spotted!
2017-08-17 02:08
What, is this just common knowledge???
2017-08-17 02:09
Yes. There constantly have been topics about it on HLTV past 6 months or so.
2017-08-17 02:12
I don't read the forums on the site anymore, just the news and matches.
2017-08-17 02:12
#80
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Italy LuccaTestoni 
yeah, it is, he sings allot of Brazilian musics on livestream and played some matches with SK on portuguese
2017-08-17 02:12
#85
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Brazil theambush 
For BRs, yes
2017-08-17 02:13
I'm not from Brazil, but still know about it for quite some time.
2017-08-17 02:18
Aren't you fucking cool
2017-08-17 09:48
Indeed.
2017-08-17 12:42
how did he learn portuguese tho?
2017-08-17 11:41
#519
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Brazil theambush 
I think that he learnt by his own way, using the Internet
2017-08-17 11:48
#537
fnx | 
Sweden martla 
didnt he take a portuguese class at school or something?
2017-08-17 12:42
#550
kNgV- | 
Brazil Sp4rkes 
Elige's mother is brazilian
2017-08-17 13:27
#557
 | 
Brazil theambush 
Thanks..i didnt know it
2017-08-17 13:51
Really? Okay that makes sense why he's also kind of attached to the Brazilians! He sure does not look like half brazilian though
2017-08-17 13:57
#565
kNgV- | 
Brazil Sp4rkes 
haha
2017-08-17 14:07
#571
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Sri Lanka 1v1meRust 
to be honest boltz also doesn't look brazilian, he's white af also yeL
2017-08-17 14:16
Yeah, sure, but they still kind of look latino! I guess this will sound more and more racist if we go on, but I think you get what I mean!
2017-08-17 14:49
you'd be surprised by the amout of white people in Brazil, gotta take some Geography classes I see
2017-08-17 15:16
#653
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Sri Lanka 1v1meRust 
i am brazilian mate, also, did you even understand what i said? i meant that both boltz and yel don't look what people understand as "brazilian", but they still are gotta take some interpretation classes I see
2017-08-18 01:47
there's no such thing as a brazilian look you fucking retard
2017-08-19 00:56
#665
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Sri Lanka 1v1meRust 
calls people retards, then proceeds to get mad when people call us monkeys i have no need to talk with ignorant people, cya
2017-08-19 01:21
#631
Brazil dkf 
And what exactly do you think is the brazillian look?
2017-08-17 21:30
Elige's portuguese is very poor (just some sentences, curses and greetings). Note that Liquid's video does not show a single sentence of him speaking in portuguese. He had to learn a lot of position names, plays, strats, and specially talking about IMT guys, A LOT of slangs. Even if they hire zews as a coach i would find almost impossible for him to teamplay with these guys. And on top of that, only steel and zakk speak some understandable english. On the other hand, If we were considering an SK exchange, i would find that perfectly possible, because Fallen, TACO and now coldzera have a great english proficiency IRL and ingame and could teach him very quickly. They would love to take ELiGE to the team. fer loves him too.
2017-08-17 02:39
#317
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Brazil adre221 
Any SK player >>>>> Elige
2017-08-17 05:34
You are crazy if you think taco is a better player than elige
2017-08-17 06:12
#332
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Brazil adre221 
Don't compare a pugger who isn't even on a top30 team to a multiple times major champion who is in the best team in the world.
2017-08-17 06:13
#339
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North America Foxaika 
Why not? Elige is much more skilled than Taco in my opinion, champion or not.
2017-08-17 06:20
#340
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Brazil adre221 
That's why it's your opinion and nothing else, elige can do taco's role as much as I can pilot an airplane.
2017-08-17 06:22
#357
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North America Foxaika 
And that's your opinion and nothing else. Belittling my opinion does the same to yours. When it comes to roles, sure, you can't just swap them out. But mechanically, Elige is more skilled than Taco. The question was who is the better player, not who fills x role best.
2017-08-17 07:22
#359
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Brazil adre221 
Except what I'm saying is not really an opinion, it's a well known fact, saying that a guy who is barely tier3 is better than someone who is a multiple times major champion and won multiple 250k tournaments and also happens to be in the best team in the world right now and faces the best teams in the world while performing solidly against them, is, you know, kinda stupid.
2017-08-17 07:26
True Also Pronax is the best Igl ever to live on this planet... Besides that, hes talking about skill and not about achievements and its a well known fact that using achievements to argue about the skill of two players is, you know, kinda stupid.
2017-08-17 07:45
#380
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Brazil adre221 
Performing constantly against tier1 competition and winning multiple events proves taco is more skillful than elige who performs average against... whatever shit tier scrubs he is playing against.
2017-08-17 08:09
No, it proves that he is a good roleplayer in a good team. Sticking with my example before, by your logic pronax is more skilled than coldzera since he won more majors and more events in general than cold
2017-08-17 08:15
#386
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Brazil adre221 
compare pronax's rating to coldzera's please, also, there is a reason pronax aren't even on a tier5 team now.
2017-08-17 08:16
Stick to your opinion pls, 3 is obviously bigger than 2
2017-08-17 08:18
#388
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Brazil adre221 
What? What you are saying doesn't even make any sense... If pronax had a rating next to coldzera then you'd have a point, if you were talking about flusha or someone like that it'd been debatable, but your example is simply stupid.
2017-08-17 08:20
Let me tell you something. Comparing taco and elige like that, is, you know, kinda stupid too
2017-08-17 08:31
#397
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Brazil adre221 
Not really, there is a reason taco is on the best team in the world and elige's not, taco performs good against good opponents and win events, elige is an average player from NA that plays nothing special against tier5 opponents, taco is much more skillful than elige, as simple as that.
2017-08-17 08:34
What? What you are saying doesnt even make any sense. At first, you should again stick to your own opinion/ facts. Going from taco performing solid to performing good and from elige playing against tier 3 to playing against tier5 looks a bit helpless. 2nd, elige isnt just average, he is one of the best na players while taco is far away being amongst the best even in brazil. 3rd. Im starting to doubt that you know what skill, regarding counterstrike, means, so you should look it up maybe.
2017-08-17 08:57
#406
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Brazil adre221 
Wow there is some inconsistencies on my figures of speech, that makes all of my points invalid! Also, my gold nova friend is pretty good, I think he is better than cold. He hasn't achieved anything really, but my opinion makes it true. I think what skill means to you is doing some flashy plays against low tier competition, instead of helping your team win games, congrats, you are a CSGO expert. Taco>elige, that's a fact, and your only argument against it is your opinion.
2017-08-17 08:59
I never said that your inconsistencies make your points invalid, but it shows that, since your only arguments are, the same which you blame me for, your opinion, you have to exaggerate to give them some value. The difference between me and you is that you state your opinion as facts. Also comparing your goldnova friend to cold shows that you didnt understand my examples at all. While pronax played against tier1 too your friend just plays against gold nova. In my opinion, and i think most people would agree, skill is about mechanical abilities, so Simplified, about aiming. Being able to throw many flashes and support your team doesnt take a lot of skill , while doing flashy plays does. (Which help your team win games too). Thats the reason there are roles in csgo, thats why taco is support and elige is a starplayer. Im sure if elige puts in a lot of time he could learn to support too, maybe not as good as taco but at least decent. But in no way taco would be able to do flashy plays like elige
2017-08-17 09:31
#425
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Brazil adre221 
You really don't know anything about CS, do you? Cold is support for SK, taco is an entryfragger, and he does show up for his team when it's needed, he can put up good numbers against tier1 opposition, while elige plays against tier3 opponents. There is a reason taco is on the world's best team right now and elige isn't, elige is an average NA player, the skill you need to have to play against the people taco play against is greater than whatever skill elige will ever have, you are not very smart if you think taco is on SK because he can throw flashes, every player on SK is one of the world most skillful players, including taco.
2017-08-17 09:46
It seems like you just copy paste your one argument which his nothi g else than your opinion over And over again. also it seems like i understand a lot more about cs than you do. Taco is on Sk cause hes apparently a good teammate and a brazilian, thats why he is on sk. Cold isnt a support at all, hes their star player. Sk is built around him so he can win them rounds, with taco as a guy that does whats needed. That may include entryfragging but in general hes a support player
2017-08-17 10:01
#424
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Europe RadiantTetsu 
tacos rating: prntscr.com/g9igxc eliges rating: prntscr.com/g9ihns sure taco won more than elige but its not everything to win a event to be a better player
2017-08-17 09:45
#427
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Brazil adre221 
Yes, and xantares is the best player in the world. Look at the teams taco play against, then look at the teams elige play against.
2017-08-17 09:48
Wow you are stupid
2017-08-17 09:52
#430
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Brazil adre221 
nice argument
2017-08-17 09:53
Thats not an argument you idiot
2017-08-17 10:05
#444
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Brazil adre221 
Sorry you are so dumb you can't understand sarcasm, I'll make sure to make comments your level of intelligence can understand next time.
2017-08-17 10:07
Wow... what makes you think my comment wasnt sarcastic too?
2017-08-17 10:43
You are really stupid
2017-08-17 10:13
#474
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Brazil adre221 
It's funny how you can only insult me without making any points, I wouldn't expect more from someone with your level of intelligence though.
2017-08-17 10:41
You use acheivements as a measurment of skill, like everyone else is saying, by your logic Pronax is the worlds best player.
2017-08-17 11:38
#511
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Brazil adre221 
No, I use achievements to separate the best from the trash, if elige is to be better than an acomplhished player like taco then he needs to prove it, that's why you can't go on saying random players are better than world champions. Also, pronax hasn't been revelant in years and he had horrible ratings in his prime.
2017-08-17 11:40
Lmao, just read what you are saying, its no wonder people are all calling you stupid as fuck....
2017-08-17 12:21
#642
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Brazil adre221 
You are making no arguments what so whever, good way to escape after being destroyed
2017-08-17 23:54
Cry more
2017-08-18 09:46
I gotta say I agree with Foxaika on this. EliGE is mad skilled. He is a better player than TACO without a doubt.
2017-08-17 08:26
#394
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Brazil adre221 
I respect your opinion and you're entitled to it, but keep in mind that's not a fact.
2017-08-17 08:28
#434
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United States RyxxyR 
And we aware that your OPINION that Taco is better than Elige is an OPINION. There's no direct way to prove that either statement is a fact. To be honest, they are both decent players, Taco doesn't usually get many kills, and he isn't an overly amazing player, but he does his job. And Elige could fare much better in a better team and has a high skill cap, especially when his team plays well.
2017-08-17 09:59
#441
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Brazil adre221 
It's not really an opinion, taco has proven he is a great player and can stand his feet against tier1 teams while also winning events. If you want to say things like elige is better than taco, then you have to prove it, because seeing that taco won multiple events and is on the best team in the world while elige has achieved nothing taco is the better player unless proven otherwise. That's like saying I could be better than taco if I was on his place, but that's not true unless I actually start winning events and prove it.
2017-08-17 10:04
#487
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United States RyxxyR 
Winning events is a team effort, not the effort of a single player. A single player can be amazingly skilled but be on a shitty team. Take NiKo for example, he never really won anything on Mouz, yet everyone knew he was a fucking insane player, and now he's on FaZe and he's made them a top 3-5 team.
2017-08-17 10:59
#491
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Brazil adre221 
But Niko was putting amazing results against tier1 teams, getting coldzera's like level of performance against them. Elige is the best player of a bad team, and that's not saying much.
2017-08-17 11:02
+1
2017-08-17 17:22
#404
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Europe skelteR 
No ofense but you are delusional
2017-08-17 08:55
#431
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Brazil adre221 
after all those good points you make in your comment, I can't help but agree with you
2017-08-17 09:54
#432
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Europe skelteR 
What argument do I need to make? It's like comparing fucking bodyy to simple or somebody. It's clear the skill difference is there. Elige could do what TACO does with no problems. However, you should not limit a player with the skill of Elige to that role.
2017-08-17 09:58
#436
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Brazil adre221 
That's why taco is winning multiple events against tier1 teams and elige is... I don't know? Sorry I don't follow tier3 players.
2017-08-17 10:00
#439
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Europe skelteR 
What are you even talking about? We are comparing players, not teams. Taco is the worst player in his team and he has teammates like coldzera, fer, fallen and felps. Elige is the best player in his team and he plays with less skilled players than the brazilians. We are discussing the individual players here, not their teams and their results.
2017-08-17 10:02
#450
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Brazil adre221 
You can't really say elige is better than taco if he hasn't proven himself, if elige was as good as you're talking about he would be in a top team, as simple as that. Taco has showed his skill by being a solid player in the best team in the world, until elige proves himself and performs constantly better than taco against tier1 teams, taco is better.
2017-08-17 10:14
#451
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Europe skelteR 
Elige is in a top team in US. These are the teams there. Anyway, I won't bother anymore, it's so absurd. You are saying a Renault is better than a Mercedes.
2017-08-17 10:16
#453
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Brazil adre221 
If elige was as good as you are saying, he would be in a team like faze, nationalities aren't really a excuse to be in a bad team anymore. You know why he isn't? Because he is an average NA pro. I'll be saying a Renault is better than a Mercedes if Renault was a multi awarded company and Mercedes was a mediocre company who didn't make a good car yet.
2017-08-17 10:19
#456
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Europe skelteR 
Ok, so following your logic, flusha and jw are the best players in the world? Cause they have 3 majors under their belt? Following your logic, is taco better than niko? Cause niko has not won a major?
2017-08-17 10:21
#460
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Brazil adre221 
Flusha and jw were one of the best players in the world, yes, at the time they won those events. Their achievements are too old though, and they haven't won anything in years, so they are not that highly rated anymore. Niko is better than taco, because niko is playing on a top3 team and he proved he can show insane results against tier1 teams and help his team win events and get good placings, even though he has not won a major. Elige is not niko though, elige isn't even known to be a top player. You guys are talking like he is cold or niko, while he is more like cerq, a player who only looks good because of the incredibly low tier teams he play against.
2017-08-17 10:29
#466
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Europe skelteR 
Cerq, wtf. Elige has proven himself vs tier1 teams numerous times. Just because the team is not good enough does not mean he is not better than someone who plays in a team that wins titles. Taco is a mediocre player, his aim is average at best. I understand you like him, but you cannot be that delusional. Wake up. I don't even like Elige, but saying taco, of all players, is better than him is absurd.
2017-08-17 10:33
#471
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Brazil adre221 
You really doesn't understand how CS works, at this point of competition you can't be in the world's best team and not be very skillful, taco can entryfrag and hold sites against the world best teams, that makes him better than any player who hasn't showed or achieved anything, elige hasn't proved he can play better than taco, it's pointless to even discuss this.
2017-08-17 10:39
#476
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Europe skelteR 
Yes, I do not understand cs. Nobody said taco is not skilled, just average skilled. While Elige is clearly more skilled. I mean, it's fucking taco, the dude has not gotten 20 frags in one map in ages. When he does, it's a celebration. Fucking TACO, what are you on about? He is fucking TACO, wtf.
2017-08-17 10:44
#481
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Brazil adre221 
He doesn't get frag because he doesn't need to, there is literally fallen, cold, felps and fer to do that. Taco doesn't give a fuck about kills, he do what's necessary to win, he doesn't hunt frags, he play smart, he hold sites, he gets crucial kills, all he cares about is how he will contribute to his team's success, he can very well stand his feet and win his team the round when the other players fail, but they are so good it hardly even happens. A team like SK need a player like taco, and that's why puggers like elige will never achieve something and NA will always be trash, they prefer to go after flashy plays and lose the round for the team, taco is not killing much but he is winning, and that's all that matters, and that's why players like him are on a whole different level than elige.
2017-08-17 10:52
>he do whats necessary to win >taco is a supportplayer is a retarded statement Pick one
2017-08-17 11:07
#643
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Brazil adre221 
You know that I'm not making this up, and that the roles in SK were always known to be like this, right?
2017-08-17 23:55
Elige does performe constantly better and hes also in one of the top na teams. Dont know in which world you live in.
2017-08-17 10:17
#458
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Brazil adre221 
Nice job escaping the main argument after making completely retarded statements like ''taco is a support player''. Elige ''top na team'' isn't even top10, elige get's trashed out at groups on most events and plays mostly against tier3 opponents, while taco plays mostly against tier1, and plays on the big stage, instead of stat padding against lesser teams on groups then getting knocked out to the first tier1 he encounters.
2017-08-17 10:24
Well maybe answer my last comment in the main argument before you blame me for escaping after making completely retarded statements like cold is a support player.
2017-08-17 10:41
#477
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Brazil adre221 
LOL you really don't know anything, you concluded all of this by yourself? It's a well known fact that cold is sk's support player and taco entryfrags, go inform yourself, people like you know so little about CS you think things such as ''star player'' is a role, SK plays on a system which works around executing tactics, not supporting one player.
2017-08-17 10:46
Sk is set up around fer and felps being aggressiv and cold holding sites and clutching. I think you are the one that has no clue about roles in cs. A support player is the guy that sets up the others to get kills and win rounds. Also he has to do the things noone else wants to do like or whats needed in any given situation. if fallen wants taco to entry, he does it but that doesnt make him a pure entryfragger. Sks system doesnt rely on tactics that much. Sure, they got some executes, but they are pretty basic. What makes them so strong is that they got so much firepower in cold fer and felps, sometimes also fallen, and a good support in taco. Felps and fer go aggresive, to make it a 3v3 or sth like that so cold can clutch the round.
2017-08-17 11:02
#497
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Brazil adre221 
SK is most known to be a very strategic team. Sure, they have a lot of firepower, but cold only clutches when it's needed, they rely on smart play to get an advantage and hold into it in a round. Taco is not a support player, he is a pure entryfragger, he goes in first in the bombsites and is often the first to die, that's why he doesn't has very good stats, but he sacrifices himself so cold and the others can be the ones alive in the round. Cold is the one supporting the team and sometimes IGLing, that's how SK's system always was.
2017-08-17 11:10
I can agree that sk plays very smart. But to make that work they have to set up each other depending on the situation so all of them are kind of supports and entries depending on who has utility and who not. But it seems like taco sacrifices the most so if you transfer the typical rolesystem to sk taco would most likely be the support. Also compared to elige taco sucks as pure entryfragger
2017-08-17 14:09
#644
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Brazil adre221 
But taco has the necessary skills to play in a way it max his team's chances to win, taco's role is extremely hard and can't be done by an average player like elige, who wouldn't have any place in a world class team like SK. Taco could play like a star if he wanted, but it's not what his team needs, he prefers to play for his team's win, and that itself requires more skill than being a hotshot in a tier3 team.
2017-08-17 23:59
Also you still didnt answer in the main argument
2017-08-17 11:09
#498
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Brazil adre221 
It barely has any space, I covered your points in the other reply I made.
2017-08-17 11:12
#454
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Europe RadiantTetsu 
idk his arguments like if the player cant win any events he cannot be a better player than someone who won some events
2017-08-17 10:19
#455
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Europe skelteR 
And he keeps insisting on it...
2017-08-17 10:20
#465
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Brazil adre221 
He can, but he isn't unless he has proven it. Niko has achieved less than taco, but he has proven he can play better than him, elige, however, has not, unless elige prove himself, he is not better than taco.
2017-08-17 10:31
#467
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Europe RadiantTetsu 
lol niko won nothing when he was in mouz his first big premier event was when he joined faze nice try and he was still a better player than taco in mouz
2017-08-17 10:35
#469
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Brazil adre221 
He still showed he could carry against tier1, like kennyS in titan, elige is nothing like that though, he is just... average.
2017-08-17 10:36
#473
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Europe RadiantTetsu 
just average prnt.sc/g9j4hj
2017-08-17 10:41
#484
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Brazil adre221 
He performed average against tier1 teams, and lost almost every match against them. Most of these teams are tier2/3, so yeah, nice try.
2017-08-17 10:57
#485
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Europe RadiantTetsu 
immortals navi astralis north tier 2/3 yes ofc
2017-08-17 10:58
#488
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Brazil adre221 
Tyloo big penta hellraisers optic nrg flipsid3 envyus
2017-08-17 10:59
#494
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Europe RadiantTetsu 
its like you see only the tier 2/3 teams still he peformed like a beast against tier 1 teamsmost of the time meanwhile taco most of the time is average prntscr.com/g9jgjh
2017-08-17 11:08
#501
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Brazil adre221 
He faced much better teams, also played more important matches like finals, taco's role isn't really to have good stats, he is that player who is willingly to be the first to die in the round to give the other players the opportunity to stay alive, he is playing a much more difficult role than elige, and the fact that he can still perform like this against tier1 teams in high pressure matches is impressive, elige is supposed to be the star player and he can't be much more better than taco, who's job IS to die. That's the difference right there.
2017-08-17 11:20
#505
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Europe RadiantTetsu 
He faced much better teams elige faced astralis and the only teams equally strong are faze and sk taco and you said Taco is not a support player, he is a pure entryfragger and elige is a entry fragger aswell most of the time taco lost his opening duels meanwhie elige won most of time his opening frag and we see elige is a better player than taco
2017-08-17 11:29
#646
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Brazil adre221 
SK doesn't rely on taco to get constant entry kills, it's not his role, his job is to create a opening in the site, which can be caused by making his opponents retreat, do a lot of damage, distract, etc. Kills are welcome, but not always needed. A team like liquid requires players like elige to do a risky play and have it pay off, and that's why it's so trash, SK can get aggressive but they don't need to, they do what's best for them to win the round, playing in a mindset like this requires much skill than being your average pugger in a tier3 team.
2017-08-18 00:03
#551
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Italy Gio_bose 
Bro not a top thirteen team. We may not be a good as u but still have the respect to call us our actual rank
2017-08-17 13:33
#648
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Brazil adre221 
Sorry, just a bit of exaggeration, liquid is not that bad but it's absurd when people start comparing players of a top1 team to players who can't even make it to the major...
2017-08-18 00:06
taco is on astralis? what did i miss? who did he replace?
2017-08-17 17:42
#647
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Brazil adre221 
Sorry but astralis wouldn't be top1 not even if taco joined them.
2017-08-18 00:05
#527
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Estonia swag420weed 
There are about 300 callouts in cs. Wouldnt take longer than few days to learn it in portugese
2017-08-17 12:11
Man, portuguese is a very complex language. Just an example, even players from diferent regions from BR have diferent names for positions and callouts. Even an portuguese player have to take some time to adapt his language. And i forgot to mention the various accents we have. Its a continential country. It would be much easier for a portuguese speaking player to learn english.
2017-08-17 17:12
#610
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Estonia swag420weed 
Even if elige calls in english, im sure everyone else would understand.
2017-08-17 17:36
Yeah, for sure. Again, If we were talking about SK, i would agree with you. The problem is for IMT guys to understand and teamplay. Just try to watch the twins playing NA rank S trying to communicate in english (gl btw, SK hate to play there) But lets forget that, various sources saying that ELiGE wont leave Liquid for now
2017-08-18 01:15
#586
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Philippines itchybells 
wtf? its csgo. you dont need to speech. as long as you know the callouts and can understand them then its good .
2017-08-17 15:06
#344
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Brazil Djentleman 
Elige he is the north american player but the Liquid he is the brazilian star
2017-08-17 06:46
#22
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Europe vladick_69 
broken tag
2017-08-17 02:07
#23
fr0a | 
Serbia Xempy 
GOOD
2017-08-17 02:07
hey
2017-08-17 02:07
ELIGE SPEAKS PORTUGUESE?
2017-08-17 02:07
yes, very well
2017-08-17 02:10
why tf a polish kid form na knows how to speak portuguese?
2017-08-17 02:10
#75
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North America s1mpliquid 
he is really smart, his name comes from a spanish word which is "choose" so he probably knows spanish too
2017-08-17 02:12
ye he looks like a smart kid
2017-08-17 02:14
#273
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Brazil PlasticB0Y 
he is smart, he was named scholar of the year thecarbondalenews.com/article/20150224/N..
2017-08-17 03:51
#284
lover | 
Other Gala0 
What
2017-08-17 04:18
#315
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Brazil mexicowss 
god
2017-08-17 05:29
#318
Reckless | 
Australia D_D 
OMG
2017-08-17 05:36
He was also the valedictorian for his class. thetimes-tribune.com/news/carbondale-gra..
2017-08-17 15:05
#77
Twistzz | 
Estonia dev2ce 
maybe one of his parents speaks it.
2017-08-17 02:12
EliGE's ancestors moved to US 200 years ago. They are not Polish anymore.
2017-08-17 02:21
#285
lover | 
Other Gala0 
So did the jews, ask Hitler If minds
2017-08-17 04:19
#233
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Brazil theambush 
Because the BR Scene is the best and he knew that learning portuguese could give him a spot in a br team futurely
2017-08-17 03:10
#409
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Germany b1azed 
Danish scene not worst
2017-08-17 09:06
he speaks portuguese and has some knowledge of polish
2017-08-17 02:16
I think he can understand some things but he doesn't speak portuguese. he can say some words but that's it. I think...haha
2017-08-17 02:28
he's been learning as far as I know he didn't want to just know a couple words and songs
2017-08-17 02:28
hum... the video that I saw is a little bit old, like 4 months ago I don't know if he's learned if he really learned that's great!
2017-08-17 02:33
I guess he likes learning languages part of his family is polish and I know he can scratch a little bit on polish too
2017-08-17 02:33
that's amazing I didn't know that.
2017-08-17 02:34
the article that the other guy linked mentioned that elige was a pretty smart dude and was part of spanish club, which indicates that he's taken 3-4 years of spanish in high school and has the propensity to connect the dots between spanish and other latin based languages. if elige doesn't understand portuguese well now, if he joins a brazillian team he'd probably be able to at least understand what his teammates are saying pretty quick.
2017-08-17 07:37
Exactly this. I am one of them peepz who has always had a liking to learning languages. Started learning English and Swedish when I was 9, took on Spanish, German and Latin when I was 13 and studied Japanese in university. If you like languages and have some background in them you learn very very quickly, and more importantly, you learn easily.
2017-08-17 08:34
are you fucking kidding me?
2017-08-17 02:07
#29
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Portugal andr3yume 
wat
2017-08-17 02:07
"with Liquid's Jonathan "EliGE" Jablonowski, who speaks Portuguese" Wut
2017-08-17 02:07
#175
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Brazil Setrock 
He speaks a little bit of portuguese, look it up on YouTube. Or at least enough to play CS, some conflicts will be had because of the obvious language barrier, but I bet you he can still play.
2017-08-17 02:36
Jesus
2017-08-17 02:07
#32
steel | 
Germany Antilope 
Rip Steel and boltz
2017-08-17 02:07
elige speaks portugese LOL WHAT
2017-08-17 02:07
#34
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CIS CA1MAN 
What is broken tag
2017-08-17 02:08
OMG
2017-08-17 02:08
rip.
2017-08-17 02:08
Finally
2017-08-17 02:08
immortals will not back to major legend after the next major....
2017-08-17 02:08
Elige speaks Portuguese? Wtf
2017-08-17 02:08
yep, there are a video when he was playing with SK speaking portuguese. youtube.com/watch?v=iRvGHzl5yNI
2017-08-17 02:20
#132
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Canada TwistZzZz 
LETS GOOOO
2017-08-17 02:25
That's what I said to myself haha.
2017-08-17 02:44
not expected
2017-08-17 02:08
It's like everything is coming from the left field this shuffle season; Zeus, c9 move, then this.
2017-08-17 07:58
#42
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Hungary StraYzie 
kNg just barlely signed, and they are legends. Wat? Let only kNg leave, and fnx or horvy join
2017-08-17 02:08
fnx is never playing with boltzz/steel again cause they fight
2017-08-17 02:19
#118
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Hungary StraYzie 
Than there is horvy. I hate kNg sooo much, but like the others inc. the Teles twins or "Yeahman-man"
2017-08-17 02:21
if it wasn't for kNgV- the team wouldn't have gotten where they got
2017-08-17 02:29
#163
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Hungary StraYzie 
maybe, but I can still hate kNg for being who he is
2017-08-17 02:33
you mean for being an asshat full of himself? well, kNg stands for kiNg he is probably playing a character
2017-08-17 02:34
#176
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Hungary StraYzie 
he is an offensive young c*nt with no respect
2017-08-17 02:36
I agree great player, but I'd punch him (I'm BR)
2017-08-17 02:38
kNg is a legend
2017-08-17 02:52
In fact kng is the abbreviation of "calango" a kind of small lizard found in SA
2017-08-17 10:03
oh my bad i thought it was king calango é deprê uahuahuahauhau
2017-08-17 22:33
#213
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Brazil Lucas_Konen 
Fnx and steel are friends again...maybe optic Will try to put steel as coach, and inthe line-up fnx, kng, hen1, Lucas1 and the other i dont know...
2017-08-17 02:51
That would seem like a waste to put him as a coach where he wouldn't be able to call in game as much since the valve ruling. Steel has improved a lot since his luminosity days. He's not a liability individually anymore.
2017-08-17 08:05
Let their best player leave?
2017-08-17 11:14
#503
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Hungary StraYzie 
Their best player is hen1
2017-08-17 11:27
No it isnt. Did you watch the majors? Kngv is at another level and its so fucked up because he is a fucking ass cunt. Not a warm star like forest. Hen1 is another cunts ass who does not deliver on important situations and cant rifle a shit worth of shit but hits some nice awp flicks. Still a cunt who cant deliver. For example he can't catch FalleN even once in a match. Unlike Allu or other good awpers.
2017-08-17 11:32
#513
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Hungary StraYzie 
I would only call kNg a cunt. Yes I watched all the Majors since Katowice 2014.(Only a few mathces from it, but I watched the whole Cologne 2014) I think that hen1, this Major even LUCAS and boltz for sure has more impact in the game.
2017-08-17 11:52
Oh shit. we have an agreement then or at least a bit of an agreement?
2017-08-17 11:45
#520
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Hungary StraYzie 
Seems like :D
2017-08-17 11:48
#43
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Brazil Henr1qu1n 
wtf bro wtf
2017-08-17 02:08
wow, that's very very sad.
2017-08-17 02:08
LOL RIP NA CS
2017-08-17 02:08
Lol childish issues...
2017-08-17 02:08
#47
shox | 
United Kingdom DeKo^ 
elige speaks every language
2017-08-17 02:08
#133
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Canada TwistZzZz 
+1 elige is love I go gay for elige
2017-08-17 02:26
#562
shox | 
United Kingdom DeKo^ 
he speaks romantic with a tic
2017-08-17 14:01
#49
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Brazil LiraBole 
Omg what is happening with this teams. Omg so much transfers in a 2 month break.
2017-08-17 02:08
#50
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Germany sunnyrain 
Both major finalists fall apart due to internal issues ...
2017-08-17 02:09
That's what success does to many, practice isn't on the 'to do' as for now, as it def should be
2017-08-17 06:16
#517
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Austria gex0r 
gambit was broken befor the major and the win couldn't stop it
2017-08-17 11:47
Probably didn't help with egos
2017-08-18 23:07
That's strange , after a second place in a major and they have differences hummm
2017-08-17 02:09
#154
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Paraguay HighAIching 
just like gambit
2017-08-17 02:29
#52
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Germany Sabba1 
not even monkeys can live together in peace
2017-08-17 02:09
Neither can the nazis you fat fuck.
2017-08-17 11:16
#587
cogu | 
Brazil mwinter 
Deutschelanistan...
2017-08-17 15:10
HEN1, KNG, FNX, Elige, and Lucas... would be a pretty slick team too. Wonder who would call for them.
2017-08-17 02:09
#108
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Portugal shaarawyGOD 
who IGL then?
2017-08-17 02:18
#269
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Germany uRaguuu 
autist?
2017-08-17 03:39
#343
EliGE | 
United States CiToX 
hahaha
2017-08-17 06:44
They would be so fucked. Only dumb players who can't call and Elige can't speak portuguese properly.
2017-08-17 02:18
In fairness, since zews left the lineup Immortals have been one of the most scrimmiest tier-one teams... and they manage to have a good result or two throughout a season. If HEN1 (who called for Games Academy, way back when iirc) or FNX could at least control the direction of the team, they would be pretty good. Elige would have a steep learning curve in the beginning, but over time that should work itself out.
2017-08-17 02:22
Hen1 never called. It was Taco. None of these guys are fit to call. It will be like n0thing's Cloud9.
2017-08-17 02:24
Well, technically Peacemaker was IGL... but you're right. I was mis-remembering.
2017-08-17 02:28
#165
TACO | 
Brazil TonimSan 
G2 plays in the same way and is considered top 5, why it could not work for Immortals? They have a lot of good runs, trophies last year, deep runs in huge events this year... they are individually good, undeniable. Maybe a tactical IGL/Coach could break their impetus... We already saw how this with zews last year. Twins, fnx, kng and ELiGE is a hell of an INSANE lineup, tbh, if they can keep the explosive playstyle, this is a top 5 contender team for sure!
2017-08-17 02:34
That's exactly what I'm saying, you're not looking for tactical excellence... just somebody to control the flow and ensure everyone is on the same page. Regardless, Elige isn't leaving Liquid so it's only a pipe-dream at this point.
2017-08-17 02:37
#54
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Brazil RauleS 
broken tag
2017-08-17 02:09
#56
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Poland Shlatter 
xDDD
2017-08-17 02:09
#57
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Brazil kal4sh 
lul
2017-08-17 02:09
#58
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Brazil RyannLP 
WTFFFFFF
2017-08-17 02:09
#59
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Sweden crindz 
hen1 lucas1 kng fnx elige wow.. now that's an interesting lineup.
2017-08-17 02:11
#141
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Canada TwistZzZz 
ye who gonna call thou? glad to see my boi elige in a Portuguese team so he can get somewhere now
2017-08-17 02:27
#156
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Sweden crindz 
i think fnx could do it, lots of experience and known for playing smart. but good question, we'll see.
2017-08-17 02:30
Brazilian team** Brazilian is the ethnicity / race of the majority of players (4 out of 5) in that lineup. Portuguese is the language they speak.
2017-08-17 02:47
#61
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Brazil LeoAv 
OMG Fnx, hen1, lucas1, kng and elige ? boltz, steel, horvy, yel, chelo (maybe zqk and idk)
2017-08-17 02:10
zqk its probably worst br player ever,boltz should leave aswell
2017-08-17 02:19
#122
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Brazil LeoAv 
Zqk is horrible but he's friends with boltz and steel. Maluke is a good option, could bring the Idk together, a player with a very good aim
2017-08-17 02:22
#125
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Brazil LeoAv 
Maybe... Boltz, Steel, Horvy, Mixweel, +1 ? (Maybe tier 2 NA)
2017-08-17 02:22
Mixwell doesn't speak Portuguese, does he?
2017-08-17 02:47
#259
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Brazil LeoAv 
But speaks Spanish, Brazilians can understand Spanish very well, but Spanish does not understand Portuguese so well
2017-08-17 03:33
Ah, didn't know that - very interesting. I guess that'd be a pretty decent lineup, though I'd feel bad for NAF if mixwell left him alone :(
2017-08-17 04:37
i would like to see cogu as primary awper with boltz steel and horvy +1
2017-08-17 02:32
Can cogu still hang though? I haven't actually watched him play.
2017-08-17 08:09
no. he's horrible nowadays.
2017-08-17 08:37
#606
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Brazil hunte[R] 
not true, he's playing well
2017-08-17 17:15
how many of his last games in the past months have u watched? 'well' isnt enough to be in a tier1-2 team tho.
2017-08-17 23:04
#659
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Brazil hunte[R] 
a few. with a better team I believe he can raise his game
2017-08-18 12:18
that team would actually be insane if they can get someone to IGL
2017-08-17 02:10
#64
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Brazil Diegho007 
kng and internal issues... expected
2017-08-17 02:10
#135
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Brazil donalld 
so true
2017-08-17 02:26
#588
cogu | 
Brazil mwinter 
+1
2017-08-17 15:11
wt?
2017-08-17 02:11
#68
norcha | 
Netherlands norchaa 
i think elige would fit right in with those guys
2017-08-17 02:11
#227
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Italy steven513 
LMAO
2017-08-17 03:01
#69
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Sweden godname 
LOL
2017-08-17 02:11
wtf is happening, lol
2017-08-17 02:11
Typical Brazilian scenario.
2017-08-17 02:12
why though
2017-08-17 02:12
#78
f0rest | 
Estonia Rebae 
LMAOO
2017-08-17 02:12
#82
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Turkey DebbSoray 
3 screamers + fnx. Omg Elige's gonna have hard times...
2017-08-17 02:13
Yeah, i can't believe Elige in this lineup, he will be crazy. xD
2017-08-17 12:49
#83
Xyp9x | 
Turkey Fugiart 
ROFLMAO
2017-08-17 02:13
#86
 | 
Other *Mip* 
I like how the top 2 finishers at the major both want roster changes and to kick players... c s g o
2017-08-17 02:13
gambit won major and already -coach -zeus
2017-08-17 02:14
Really??
2017-08-17 02:18
#375
 | 
Greece hekzy 
Same for Dota2 (atleast last year) and LoL (every year).
2017-08-17 07:53
What the shit is going on ?!
2017-08-17 02:14
#92
 | 
Portugal DrahLAN 
LOL who the fuck will IGL? FNX Hen1 Lucas1 Kng on a team. they will never stop screaming. Boltz Steel Horvy Yel and chelo would be a way better team than those guys. Why would elige join them?
2017-08-17 02:14
all i know steel and boltz didnt like fnx and hen1&lucas1 want to play with fnx
2017-08-17 02:16
#104
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Portugal DrahLAN 
I get the hen1 lucas1 side i just dont get why would elige join 4 "emotional" brazilians with no IGL
2017-08-17 02:18
maybe the'yre friends but idk,c9 wanted elige but he refused.that might be sommething in ;_?
2017-08-17 02:18
fnx isn't emotional, what are you talking about?
2017-08-17 02:35
#181
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Portugal DrahLAN 
emotional was a bad word for him but fitted the other 3. Fnx is more of a bad boy doesn´t give a crap type of guy . Anyways he´s not good for the team mentally
2017-08-17 02:37
yes, i agree with you, when fnx is motivated, he can be one of the best in the world, but when he's not, well... we all know what happens. But this happens when he is at the top, this may be a good thing afterall.
2017-08-17 02:40
With Hen1 and Lucas1 on the team, their sponsors will have to give them like 20 mice each tournament for when the twins slam their mice on the desk after each round they die.
2017-08-17 02:49
#96
 | 
Italy AlCapone1925 
rip, money money and money,
2017-08-17 02:16
#99
Theia | 
Germany Shanesz 
If 3 players leave, as example HEN1, Steel and KNG. Do you they earn the major spot by going on another org?
2017-08-17 02:17
they do
2017-08-17 02:26
#150
Theia | 
Germany Shanesz 
so simply a free major spot for elige and fnx
2017-08-17 02:28
pretty much
2017-08-17 02:31
#137
 | 
United Arab Emirates p1peb0mb 
yes.immortals will lose their major spot and the new organisation with the three players will get major spot.
2017-08-17 02:26
#326
 | 
Argentina roulettesoad 
also pro league spot?
2017-08-17 05:51
Orgs own pro league spots
2017-08-17 11:09
nah.
2017-08-17 02:27
NIBBA WHAT xD
2017-08-17 02:17
#101
 | 
Brazil nexthi 
?? again to minor
2017-08-17 02:17
rofl, this is what happens when toxic brazilians are part of a team
2017-08-17 02:17
Optic will hire these players, fnx is already negotiating with them and the possibility of hiring is huge. Maybe the new optic lineup looks like this:yel,kng,fnx,Lucas,Hen1
2017-08-17 02:19
3 awpers? I aren't think that
2017-08-18 15:43
#114
shox | 
United Kingdom dezmondo 
team makes their greatest achievement yet and still folds. same with gambit. you win a major then swap players. just csgo things lul
2017-08-17 02:20
Money talks - especially when you ask for a higher salary after doing good at a tournament. If your current organization says no to you asking for a higher salary, surely another organization will throw money at you in hopes of you bringing a major title to their name.
2017-08-17 02:50
#219
shox | 
United Kingdom dezmondo 
doesn't seem like thats what this is about though. "It is believed that LUCAS1, HEN1 and kNgV- are all keen to play alongside Lincoln "fnx" Lau, who is on Immortals' transfer list after being benched" seems like more of a player issue than organisational/financial.
2017-08-17 02:59
#115
 | 
Brazil LucaS10 
lol HEN1 LUCAS1 fnx kNg Elige best team!
2017-08-17 02:20
#127
 | 
Brazil Luiz664 
Deus te ouça
2017-08-17 02:24
#143
 | 
Brazil XEMBAO 
POGCHAMP BRO
2017-08-17 02:27
Deus te ouça
2017-08-17 02:28
#277
 | 
Brazil VictorGM_ 
Igl?
2017-08-17 04:01
just rush B.
2017-08-18 16:05
#116
 | 
Brazil assisz 
WHAT THE FUCK???
2017-08-17 02:20
wtf??????
2017-08-17 02:21
#121
 | 
Brazil VictorGM_ 
Optic? Hypeeeeee
2017-08-17 02:21
#483
 | 
Austria gex0r 
good guess...
2017-08-17 10:55
wtf
2017-08-17 02:23
#129
 | 
Brazil Juneco 
unexpected
2017-08-17 02:24
fnx,lucas, hen kng... their game house is going to be a night club
2017-08-17 02:24
+1
2017-08-17 02:31
Haha true
2017-08-17 06:44
Wtf again
2017-08-17 02:25
#134
 | 
Poland Marcines 
lul, major finalist like gambit changing lineup xD
2017-08-17 02:26
#138
 | 
Brazil XEMBAO 
ELIGE - FNX - LUCAS1 - HEN1 E KNG POCHAMP
2017-08-17 02:26
no IGL DansGame just braindead players running around
2017-08-17 02:38
#188
 | 
Brazil XEMBAO 
lucas1 can IGL
2017-08-17 02:38
no doubt. A fucking rock can IGL doesn't mean it will be good tho. Boltz IGLing is the only reason the team had any chance at making a deep tournament run
2017-08-17 02:39
BANGA QUEDA PRA MIM
2017-08-17 02:27
Expected
2017-08-17 02:27
#144
Brazil nnz 
runners-up on their facking first major and getting these internal problemas right after.. right.. way to go immortals, YAY.. who would IGL this team? ... GG
2017-08-17 02:28
Tira o bit da Team One.. Hahaha
2017-08-17 02:32
Elige, fnx, Lucas1, Hen1, kNgV. Ok, nice line-up. But what org they will play?? Maybe the return of TSM?!
2017-08-17 02:30
#174
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Sweden crindz 
optic maybe
2017-08-17 02:35
#187
kNgV- | 
Brazil vicTHOR 
mibr
2017-08-17 02:38
#170
 | 
Brazil hugoooo 
PGL Krakow was for sure a weird major. BOTH FINALISTS changing lineups less than one month after it.
2017-08-17 02:34
#171
 | 
North America MootK 
Wait, is this why Brazilians like Elige so much and want him on their teams? He actually speaks Portuguese?
2017-08-17 02:34
#177
 | 
Sweden crindz 
indeed
2017-08-17 02:36
#179
 | 
Brazil Juneco 
sherlock holmes
2017-08-17 02:37
#179
 | 
Brazil Juneco 
sherlock holmes
2017-08-17 02:37
#183
 | 
Brazil cavaquinho 
xeroque rolmes
2017-08-17 02:38
his portuguese is as good as fnx's english
2017-08-17 02:44
+1
2017-08-17 14:46
#173
 | 
Moldova OptimusBlyad 
LUL ez Loosing Legend spot at next major 4 imt org
2017-08-17 02:35
#178
 | 
Brazil Gullit 
WTF bro
2017-08-17 02:36
#192
 | 
Europe trey_ 
lmao brazilans and elige pls no it would be soooo bad for him
2017-08-17 02:40
lmao, elige is a waste of talent with those bots igls from NA, if he play with br team he will become one of the best players in the world, wait and see
2017-08-17 02:45
Valve changed it so the players keep the major spot not the org so as long as 3 of them stick together it doesn't matter which org they go to they will keep their spot and not have to go through the minor qualifier.
2017-08-17 02:40
#195
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Chile nachooww 
lolololol
2017-08-17 02:41
#196
 | 
Brazil danielm09 
wtf
2017-08-17 02:42
" "EliGE" Jablonowski, who speaks Portuguese" Nonsense, he knows some words that's all lol He could never make a full sentence
2017-08-17 02:42
enjoy your tier 3 because of girly fights.
2017-08-17 02:45
Welp, it was obvious that they were going to do some shit, both twins were together with fnx for a long time(partying all over the place). That's putting friendship over career.
2017-08-17 02:45
#212
 | 
Brazil davidzor 
+1
2017-08-17 02:51
#216
 | 
Brazil digozamaral 
+1
2017-08-17 02:53
#204
 | 
Brazil Akaerri 
Despicable traitors
2017-08-17 02:46
Well this news have already a movie who talks about. Kek (joking)
2017-08-17 02:47
cs scene is gone lmfao
2017-08-17 02:49
#215
 | 
Brazil digozamaral 
WTF
2017-08-17 02:53
dying scene for sure
2017-08-17 02:54
#218
 | 
Argentina Zestv2 
OTA
2017-08-17 02:58
#220
 | 
France kennySsSsS 
WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
2017-08-17 02:59
elige playing with 3 crazy party hard dudes (fnx, lucas1, kng)... it's really not hard to realize that it wouldn't work, not to mention that this lineup would not have an igl
2017-08-17 03:00
#222
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Portugal AgenteDoFox 
FOX FNX HEN1 LUCAS KNG= MAJOR WINNERS
2017-08-17 03:00
3 awpers?? lul
2017-08-17 03:05
#224
swag | 
Canada akasauva 
WTF
2017-08-17 03:00
#225
 | 
Turkey spaceSfanboi 
Brazilians are also salty in each other lol. Such losers
2017-08-17 03:00
best ragers on cs scene, after russians.
2017-08-17 03:22
LMFAO backstabbing Brazilians at it again.
2017-08-17 03:01
#228
 | 
China LeBronGames 
do they have girlfriends though? FNX is always dangerous in and out of game :D
2017-08-17 03:02
LUL
2017-08-17 03:03
#231
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Brazil Matheuscgc 
I just hope that Lucas1 this time isn't drunk
2017-08-17 03:08
Big three of dumbass. Idiotas.
2017-08-17 03:09
that would be a fucking sick roster, I hope we get to see it (lucas, hen1, kngv, fnx, elige)
2017-08-17 03:12
The 3 monkeys want to part ways with the 2 humans. What a surprise.
2017-08-17 03:13
The saviours!!
2017-08-17 03:19
#244
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Brazil rauni90001 
They party too hard, Elige wouldn't fit that well + where's the igl?
2017-08-17 03:21
#246
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Brazil Charizaldo 
This team will be a time bomb
2017-08-17 03:23
#248
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Malaysia phyzell 
Fascist riot.
2017-08-17 03:24
#254
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Australia aucs 
Ez optic legend spot in next major.
2017-08-17 03:27
NICE PogChamp ez4jonatao and kng
2017-08-17 03:28
#257
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United States kick_mo_ffs 
HHAHAHHAHAHHAH WTF
2017-08-17 03:31
#260
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Brazil davidzor 
FNX lacks of professionalism. It's not an opinion it's a fact. That team with Elige will never happen, if it'd happen they'd disband on less than 6 months.
2017-08-17 03:33
#266
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Brazil Charizaldo 
To complete this nonsense team we need peacemaker as a coach
2017-08-17 03:36
Acid gaming incoming
2017-08-17 09:50
So, basically both best teams from major broke down after the major.
2017-08-17 03:33
Worst major ever
2017-08-17 05:43
Chaos
2017-08-17 03:34
#264
 | 
Kazakhstan ezBORAT 
Disband incoming... Pogchamp
2017-08-17 03:35
#265
 | 
Malaysia phyzell 
They're still jumping on the bed! - Zakk , 2017
2017-08-17 03:36
Huge mistake! And now they are asking to leave for free cuz they are BR, lol. Boltz and Steel had no respect from this group of players. Its time to cut them off and stay only with those who respect you for real!
2017-08-17 03:37
#268
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United States y0rk 
Jesus just deal with it and play Counter Strike
2017-08-17 03:39
#270
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Germany uRaguuu 
both major final teams who went as big underdogs in it, are changing everything after major... wtf? "professional" cs xDDDDD
2017-08-17 03:42
Great twist
2017-08-17 03:52
Yeet now C9 should have an easy time qualifying for NY :)))))))
2017-08-17 04:04
Brazilians never respect the contracts they sign. They receive a better contract offer from another org and start to sabotage their current org. It's the LG-SK drama all over again.
2017-08-17 04:08
That's nature dude.. Immortals is not relevant on CS:GO. This squad made them relevant. They can leave if a better org offers them more money. Their career is short, they need to seize it!
2017-08-17 04:25
Why in God's name does EliGE speak Portuguese
2017-08-17 04:10
AHAHAHAHAHA
2017-08-17 06:54
LUL
2017-08-17 04:16
wait til fnx fucks elige's fleshlight...
2017-08-17 04:20
#288
lover | 
Other Gala0 
Seriously? Are you serious-ly? Are you Crazy in my eyes?
2017-08-17 04:20
Kkkkkkkkkkkkkk EliGE nao sabe no que ta se metendo, time com 4 fudidos
2017-08-17 04:31
#293
lover | 
Other Gala0 
4 fuckbois in the same team??? Party rock every day
2017-08-17 04:36
#295
 | 
World smash143 
Elige is a smart guy. Why would he join a team of 4 party animals that he can barely talk to. He's better off joining steel and boltz who seem like the more level headed guys and can speak english. Rumour makes no sense.
2017-08-17 04:42
#560
cogu | 
Brazil mwinter 
+1
2017-08-17 13:53
cs players issue nowdays
2017-08-17 04:41
#298
 | 
Portugal RKO23 
this is so fucking stupid LOL
2017-08-17 04:44
Immortals Maluk3 and Immortals pava confirmed. RIP Team One O_O
2017-08-17 04:57
#303
s1mple | 
Ukraine st1ng7 
Immortals are ****
2017-08-17 05:01
#304
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Brazil oldStar 
GL boltz and steel.
2017-08-17 05:03
#305
cAmyy | 
Other ToRu 
new IMT Boltz Steelega Horvy Elige Nifty fuck braindead trio
2017-08-17 05:03
They will speak portuguenglish? Kek
2017-08-19 02:39
#670
cAmyy | 
Other ToRu 
Steelega and zakk speak Boltz and Horvy can learn
2017-08-19 07:49
Dont know who is the real braindead xD
2017-08-19 09:54
Elige barely speak pr lol nice
2017-08-17 05:06
No matter what happens to this core of players, their run the the finals is as solid as steel bars bolted together. Their achievement, along with other teams' upsets, will live on immortally.
2017-08-17 05:12
Wtf since when does Elige speak Portuguese?!?! Fookin wizard this dude.
2017-08-17 05:16
#314
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Brazil STARBOYthg 
There are a lot of people who say he knows how to speak Portuguese...
2017-08-17 05:24
#320
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Brazil chococaine 
he doesnt, just brazilian retards think he does, he speaks the basic of the basics
2017-08-17 05:42
He speaks almost better than kng
2017-08-17 05:46
Well that's not nice to compare into a monkey
2017-08-17 06:20
Lol
2017-08-17 06:55
#316
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Brazil mexicowss 
already see team one getting destroyed b4 esea global challenge because of this
2017-08-17 05:32
#319
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Australia closet 
noooooo whyyyy :((
2017-08-17 05:37
fnx comeback lets go
2017-08-17 05:48
#327
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Brazil Collee 
Wtf they just reached the finals of a major Also Elige's portuguese isn't good enough, don't know why people think this. They would definitely need a lot of time. They wouldn't even have someone decent to igl
2017-08-17 05:59
lmao those 3+fnx and elige tier 2 at best. Better off just sticking together but w/e
2017-08-17 05:59
#335
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United States gtmaniacmda 
IMT conflict- monkeys vs. normal people monkeys want to leave to join another monkey and some other unknown player (possibly one of the most toxic NA players) normal people are like 'but you signed a contract,' and roster changes are due in 2 days lol
2017-08-17 06:19
+1
2017-08-17 07:03
hen1 and lucas1 will NEVER play on a different team, even knowing that IMT wanted to kick lucas1... dumb move
2017-08-17 06:48
Kng causing problems even also boosting the problems jezz..
2017-08-17 06:57
#352
FalleN | 
Brazil Feio91 
I have one question: Elige do you like parties? LOL
2017-08-17 07:05
he would be sitting in corner with a phone and raging on social networks how these parties suck.
2017-08-17 16:18
#353
fer | 
Austria neodan 
there is no friendship anymore in pro teams?
2017-08-17 07:11
no. money and game broke communication
2017-08-17 14:10
Astralis
2017-08-17 16:42
#354
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Kazakhstan MadKazakh 
What is happening with the major finalists? ))
2017-08-17 07:13
#358
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Luxembourg alex24 
just disband, make the pro scene more cleaner
2017-08-17 07:25
#360
 | 
Czech Republic efellmeister 
Can someone tell me which mothers/gfs did fnx bang ? I thought it was fer's gf and now twins mother but it doesnt look like that.
2017-08-17 07:26
#361
autist | 
Latvia ploxyS 
kNg, lucas1, hen1 want to leave So there are only normal people left in the team. I respect that. Get rid of the toxic side of Immortals.
2017-08-17 07:27
CHELO YEL/IDK AND PAVA PLS PLS PLS IMMORTALS DO THIS PLEASE PRETTY PLEASE
2017-08-17 07:28
Why pava? He just have experience but he cant reach a top level skill, he just cant
2017-08-19 02:36
dude .-. wtf Witch Chelo iDK Steel and Boltz being the fraggers he doesn't even need to be a good fragger, STILL, Pava is easily a better fragger than Pronax He can do it
2017-08-19 03:18
To play at top level, teams SHOULD have an igl that can frag a little at least, pava cant do it against tier5 brazilian teams, imagine on the international scene, just no
2017-08-19 09:51
#363
fury | 
Brazil LeeeO:9 
this kNg guy is a criminal and he's persuading these stupid favela twins to do what he wants, and still they want to play with a junkie known for lack of commitment LOL. Elige's brain has melted if he really considers making a team with these retards
2017-08-17 07:30
first brazil brain here that works
2017-08-17 09:35
Elige, an american pole who speaks Portuguese?
2017-08-17 07:34
#366
fury | 
Brazil LeeeO:9 
>says elige speaks portuguese >links a video in which he doesn't speak a single word in portuguese
2017-08-17 07:43
inside LUCAS1 HEN1 kNgV n0thing Shroud
2017-08-17 07:42
#369
fury | 
Brazil LeeeO:9 
2 animals, 2 junkies, 1 school shooter. sounds like an Adam Sandler movie
2017-08-17 07:51
#524
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United Kingdom peaks 
rofl
2017-08-17 12:03
#652
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Portugal mrsc 
lmaoooo
2017-08-18 01:30
International teams are very popular nowadays.
2017-08-17 07:46
lmao top two teams at major fucking up their rosters afterwards
2017-08-17 07:49
Brazilians of course.
2017-08-17 07:51
#374
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Poland blondegab1 
What the actual heck is haplening... although I'd love to see then playing with fnx again
2017-08-17 07:51
#389
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Poland ramones1 
wtf
2017-08-17 08:20
ahaha team-toxic
2017-08-17 08:29
lol toxic brs nothing new there
2017-08-17 08:37
Elige is finally able to play with BRs
2017-08-17 08:57
#407
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China batil 
lol
2017-08-17 09:00
#411
Coffee | 
Netherlands p2dr 
both Major finalists break up right after, wtf are you doing
2017-08-17 09:09
#412
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United Kingdom swellis 
good move for boltz and steel getting rid of hen1, guy is ridiculously overrated
2017-08-17 09:10
didnt they just sign kng after the major?? and now he wants to leave?? lmao
2017-08-17 09:12
#415
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Latvia Ke]R[4u 
this is fucked up, 50 iq roster change
2017-08-17 09:27
#416
 | 
Korea Damianlee 
LUCAS , hen1 , elige , fnx and kng sounds quite solid
2017-08-17 09:29
#418
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Latvia Ke]R[4u 
sounds like "3 months and disband" to me
2017-08-17 09:32
a team with no igl gg
2017-08-17 09:37
#433
Coffee | 
Netherlands p2dr 
they will just smoke weed every day
2017-08-17 09:58
Let me explain the situation for people out of the loop. Steel stole 2 banana's from Hen1 during breakfast and hen1 asked him to give them back or he will bang his mom. Steel obviously refused and this ordeal happened.
2017-08-17 09:38
as if a no-emotion-elige would work with 4 monkeys going apeshit every round xd
2017-08-17 09:42
#532
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Poland mamba99999 
yeah, that sounds interresting.
2017-08-17 12:22
#438
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Bulgaria TEDDSENN 
lol
2017-08-17 10:02
#443
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Poland GeeeRo 
what is this game man
2017-08-17 10:05
Forget about everything this article says and focus on just this. ELIGE SPEAKS PORTUGESE?????? Who the hell chooses to learn that language outside of South America and Portugal. Spanish French Russian (which is pretty fun) Chinese German Literally anything but portugese ahhahahahahahahahahahahah
2017-08-17 10:07
#459
fury | 
Brazil LeeeO:9 
the thing is he doesn't really speak it. they wrote "who speaks portuguese" and liked a video in which he doesn't say 1 word in portuguese xd
2017-08-17 10:25
With Portuguese the jump to Spanish or even Italian is quite easy. Also, once Brazil gets rid of all the corruption they have, they will be a booming economy. The same with all the African countries that speak Portuguese. Meanwhile you probably only speak shit "English". ATM Portuguese would still be above German or French in your list, which proves that you have no clue what you are talking about. But i understand, you're American, not a lot of IQ in the gene pool, and probably culture isn't also the strongest weapon in your arsenal.
2017-08-17 14:23
Okay, since you feel the need to be an asshole, even though I just simply pointed out a clear flaw in the logic of learning a shit language, I'll return the favor. 1. Maybe so, but just learn Spanish fuck Portuguese. 2. As if Brazil would ever get rid of corruption, that's their specialty. Without corruption Brazil just doesn't exist. 3. The way you say that asks like all of Africa speaks Portuguese, but you monkeys only settled a small bit of Africa, because your empire was trash. Brazil, Goa, Angola, Mozambique, Cape Verde, Guinea-Bissau, São Tomé and Principe those are the only countries in the world that speak it. And 85%+ of the population that speaks Portuguese are Brazilian, so you cant really count Africa in there. 4. I don't only speak "English", why the fuck you put the quotes is beyond me. Maybe because you're an uncivilized asshole just like the rest of you monkeys. 5. Although Portuguese is spoken by more people than German and French, again that's thanks to Brazil, a literal shit hole. 6. I am a proud American, I have a well above average IQ, and culture is not a weapon, but if it was I would have that locked down thanks to years of world studies. Meanwhile you're a monkey who managed to hit a bunch of keys on a keyboard
2017-08-17 23:14
The cow boy never got out of Texas. Rednek level is high, chill out country boy.
2017-08-18 02:10
#446
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Brazil tcesarsc 
Honestly the talent at fnx-hen1-lucas1-kng core is off the roofs. But I really don't know about their commitment. They just don't show that professionalism vibe that you see at all the SK members. If someone like Fallen was the fifth, I'd be hyped as fuck, because he's a person meant to be a leader and would show the direction. But who's gonna show the direction in this new team I have no idea. Fnx is insanely smart but was never a talkative guy while playing, the twins have good individual knowledge but poor macro knowledge it seems, kng I don't know but I'd guess he isn't experienced at IGLing too. It's one of the riskiest changes I seen but at least the potential is still very very high.
2017-08-17 10:08
SK Immortals(steal LG and other players) NEW immortals, fnx hen1, etc = 3 good Brazilian teams youtube.com/watch?v=l1dnqKGuezo
2017-08-17 10:11
#457
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Netherlands Darkrain 
a source close to the team has told HLTV.org. snitch
2017-08-17 10:24
#461
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Russia Sur10n 
is this a joke?is crank hltv editor right now?
2017-08-17 10:29
May be Optic could sign them?
2017-08-17 10:30
But honestly, if Elige speaks portugese then -TACO +Elige and SK will be unbeatable.
2017-08-17 10:35
#492
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World madman112 
This is true but I doubt ELiGE has the same working mentality as everyone in SK + when they live in a teamhouse they are like a family, their personalities have to match well in order to make the team work
2017-08-17 11:06
#463
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CIS vreiden 
rip
2017-08-17 10:30
Who's IGL in Immortals atm?
2017-08-17 10:31
Used to be steelega but now is boltz
2017-08-19 09:56
I've already asked immortals in twitter, anyway ty:D
2017-08-19 10:31
Cuz fuck them IGLs, right? Let's create a mix of 5 players and suck.
2017-08-17 10:38
#478
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Romania Tise 
ROFL, wtf ??
2017-08-17 10:48
both major finalist disbanding OMEGALUL what did steel and boltz do so terrible??
2017-08-17 10:50
Kept their feet on the ground and didn't wanted to go nuts and play in a pre-karrigan faze style
2017-08-17 18:56
They have a more focused mind. Its a personality thing!
2017-08-18 09:03
#480
fnx | 
Poland redfinka 
ok so now i understand all of these pictures together with FNX on instagram etc... it will be a great team but they need someone stable and good igl
2017-08-17 10:51
#502
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Singapore derpydm 
what's next? device to North? 4Head these transfers are getting out of hand i swear
2017-08-17 11:21
Boltz is better than all of them lmao
2017-08-17 11:33
+1
2017-08-19 09:57
#508
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Poland DizzeyKing 
xDDDDD
2017-08-17 11:36
#509
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Poland DizzeyKing 
every team got crazy shuffle but always only one stay the same: VIRTUS.PRO :) :)
2017-08-17 11:37
#518
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Austria gex0r 
GOLDEN FIVE
2017-08-17 11:48
There are no other players in poland...
2017-08-17 12:03
#530
fnx | 
Poland redfinka 
well you're actually right, i'm pretty sure they would already replace someone if there would be possibility
2017-08-17 12:19
#544
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Poland DizzeyKing 
michu, reatz even mouzinho but VP are family.
2017-08-17 13:13
#542
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Romania Tise 
Because there are no other polish players that can reach the level that VP's roster plays.
2017-08-17 13:05
#543
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Poland DizzeyKing 
michu-he was playing with vp as a sub and he showed that he can reach the same level as vp, but VP are family they wont do any changes.
2017-08-17 13:12
#546
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Romania Tise 
VP took last place, eliminated by liquid. Michu was the worst player on mirage but second best on Overpass. I don't think those are good results.
2017-08-17 13:19
#549
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Poland DizzeyKing 
Dont look too much at statistics. We are talking about possibly changes in VP but we all know that first changes in vp can comes maybe in 5 years xDD so that still no sense, but MICHU>ALL OTHER PL players not from vp
2017-08-17 13:26
we make major finals - lets break up
2017-08-17 11:42
#522
LUq | 
Poland dnbk1ng 
wtf is going on XD
2017-08-17 11:51
#534
Snax | 
Poland Mval 
Like wtf -.- Huge pity...
2017-08-17 12:37
this just sounds all wrong
2017-08-17 12:42
#540
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Denmark fm100 
What a fucking team honestly.. Elige, fnx, kng, lucas and hen1
2017-08-17 12:50
-Taco +Boltz
2017-08-17 13:40
#558
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Brazil Charizaldo 
I think steel would be better. Boltz is a too passive player
2017-08-17 13:51
But Boltz has more of a clutch. I think he'd fit better into Taco's place. Taco is not aggressive either. To hold a bomb or stay in a lurker does not have to be. What do u think?
2017-08-17 14:06
#566
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Brazil Charizaldo 
SK players are more about brain than aim. Steelega is that kind of guy. BTW, we'll not see TACO out of SK
2017-08-17 14:08
Yeah, i know.
2017-08-17 14:11
Steelega is a shit player
2017-08-17 14:42
If wasnt his performance at majot imt would never made finals
2017-08-19 02:25
WHo is IGL in Immortals?
2017-08-17 14:23
At the moment its boltz, but steel has led them and numerous other teams in the past.
2017-08-17 15:04
kngV aka rat they gave him chance and now he ruins the team
2017-08-17 14:24
lmao
2017-08-17 14:40
#583
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Brazil Smartzilian 
Forget Elige it won't happen. If these trio depart they will bring some local brazilian player... it can be: 1. Bit (IGL support) 2. TRK and IDK (both rise talents)
2017-08-17 14:59
Lmao HLTV is dumb. Even Fox that is portuguese had trouble communicating in-game with SK because of the difference in callouts and different slangs/sentence formation while talking fast. Now imagine a guy that barely speaks portuguese. It would be way easier for them to communicate in English at that point, since they all have played rank s for a good time. And then you have way more options than Elige. And as much as Elige is friendly with the BR players, it's a totally different thing to live and be togheter in a team. Now for Lucas, Hen and KNG, amazing players but not so mature, just like fnx. For me steel and boltz were the pillars holding IMT up. I don't exactly like Zakk, but all this sound like a really dumb decision. IMT problem was always lack of discipline in-game, not skill. So you remove the 2 players that had their feet more on the ground and you are left with a pre-Karrigan Faze style of team but weaker. Needless to say they will probably not achieve much.
2017-08-17 15:11
#601
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Brazil donalld 
+1
2017-08-17 15:53
gambit on suicide watch for ruining the most sportsmanlike team ever
2017-08-17 15:29
All four to optic, -mixwell back to EU
2017-08-17 15:32
Broken by gambit like a schoolgirl by a fat old dude in one of them japanese comics.
2017-08-17 15:41
I doubt it. Gambit won the major and changed the team because of internal fights. Had IMT win it they would probably still do the same, as the twins and Kng are much more hot-headed and prone to dumb decisions than Gambit players.
2017-08-17 15:45
Thank mr I_c_what_are_u_want_there
2017-08-17 15:45
no problem dude appreciated have a nice day
2017-08-17 15:46
#626
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Brazil Mentecapto 
"...as the twins and Kng are much more hot-headed and prone to dumb decisions than Gambit players." lmao and that's actually true
2017-08-17 20:17
#607
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Brazil arrozz 
what the fucking fuck?
2017-08-17 17:17
HeN1 kNg Lucas1 fnx EliGE ;o
2017-08-17 18:47
EliGE won't leave Liquid.
2017-08-17 19:10
#621
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Brazil BuddyINSANE 
RIP! We smart, we loyal, we friendly, we are from BRAZIL! Kreygasm
2017-08-17 19:11
#622
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World Sins 
Bad b8 m8s, KNG won't leave IMT.
2017-08-17 19:13
Twitch Chat >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hltv comments
2017-08-17 19:15
#624
ppk | 
Brazil 4vengerr 
wtf? RIP IMT
2017-08-17 19:34
#627
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Netherlands Yak_41M 
Fallen just tweeted they are staying together?
2017-08-17 20:24
#634
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Brazil mibrzera 
they "SK"
2017-08-17 21:50
#636
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Netherlands Yak_41M 
haha yeah im dumb, just scanned over it
2017-08-17 22:00
#635
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Brazil erfur 
The problem is hiring Horvy... They dont want to twitter.com/kngvito/status/8982144588787.. "And remembering that I dont want to and never wanted to leave the immortals, but to hire someone to shade someone, it was a shot in the foot!"
2017-08-17 21:53
nao sei o que esses mlks tem na cabeca!
2017-08-17 22:56
#645
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Brazil spwwwwww 
merda
2017-08-18 00:00
#656
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Brazil plumee 
omg
2017-08-18 02:28
monkey loyalty LUL
2017-08-20 08:34
NT FAKE HLTV NEWS MAKE CS GREAT AGAIN IMMORTALS 4TH HLTV RANKING
2017-08-22 01:44
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