kNgV-: "Some players preferred Immortals over the team"

MIRAA
September 21st, 2017 16:57

Vito "kNgV-" Giuseppe has shed light on his departure from Immortals and the issues surrounding the Brazilian team.

Vito "kNgV-" Giuseppe is currently a free agent after being released from his Immortals contract as a result of playing for the Brazilian team in an EPICENTER qualifier match against CLG while being suspended by the North American organisation.

The 22-year-old had been in hot water after threatening Pujan "FNS" Mehta on Twitter in the aftermath of DreamHack Montreal following a tweet from the CLG member in which he stated that three of Immortals players had been "hungover" during the semi-final match between the two teams, which left kNgV- fuming.

kNgV- addresses his departure from Immortals

In a lengthy Facebook post, kNgV- argued that Immortals had never told him what his punishment was, and revealed that he had been given permission to step in for team coach Rafael "zakk" Fernandes and play against CLG in the EPICENTER qualifier.

"After DreamHack Montreal, I returned to Brazil and I was told that I was going to be punished," he wrote. "But they never told me what the punishment would be. Our meeting was supposed to take place after the match against CLG.

"When I came on the team's group chat, I wrote that I was going to play against CLG, even if there was lag. After 10 minutes, steel came to me and said I would not be able to play because I was suspended for a month.

"I was mad because no one from the organisation had told me that. Then they lost the first map, and Lucas "LUCAS1" Teles and Henrique "HEN1" Teles asked me to play and said that they had messaged [General Manager] Nick [Phan], who had given permission for me to play.

"It was then obvious that I was going to play, it was a qualifier for EPICENTER, a big event. After watching my teammates lose, I decided to play despite the lag, I wanted to help my team.

"After the match, I read Noah's post on Twitter. He then called me and he said that it was over."

kNgV- then revealed that, upon returning from Malmö with the team, he was denied entry into the United States by the Immigration services after they discovered that he was being paid by Immortals while staying in the country under a tourist visa.

This is the reason why he was forced to sit out a number of ESL Pro League matches and also the team's ELEAGUE Premier group encounters, in Atlanta, where Raphael "cogu" Camargo filled in for him.

"They found out that I was playing for Immortals and that my work visa (which was delayed) was not ready," he explained.

"I was entering the country with a tourist visa... I was refused entry and I had to return to Brazil. I was held for two days before I could return."

Regarding the night before the DreamHack Montreal final, in which Immortals forfeited the first map after arriving late at the venue, kNgV- rejected suggestions that he, LUCAS1 and HEN1 were partying.

"zakk, HEN1, LUCAS1 and I were playing cards in the twins' room and talking about the match against CLG," he revealed.

"At 1 in the morning, zakk and I went to our room. I am going to be honest, I could not fall asleep and I only went to bed at 7.

"We woke up at 9.30 and we were already late for the match [against CLG]. After lunch, we decided to get some rest. We were only supposed to meet at 3.30 (the final was scheduled for 5pm).

"zakk was really sick, so he fell asleep, while HEN1 went to our room, where we watched the other semi-final. HEN1 also fell asleep, while I stayed up, and then steel messaged us saying that we would play one hour after that match.

"I knew that would be earlier than 5pm. I should have stayed up, but I thought I would be able to take a nap and we would have plenty of time because the first map of the semi-final was still being played.

"zakk and I woke up at 3.30, and we ran to the venue. We got there at 3.40, and, for the first time, we were late. It was just five minutes, it would have been good sense [to wait] to not ruin the final... Oh well, rules are rules.

"We were sad about everything and we also had to listen to all the jokes about us being drunk. We really like to party, but we did not go out that night.

"My reaction was obviously an impulsive one because it was a big lie. We were already being criticised and for something we had not done. 

"Losing a tournament because you slept in? That is very wrong, for sure, but losing because you were out drinking, that's a whole different story."

kNgV- also opened up about the strained relationship between the organisation and the team, and lamented the way that Immortals CEO Noah Whinston publicly handled his case.

"Obviously, our relationship was not good after the Major, we demanded a valuation that never happened, and then there was horvy's signing, with which most players did not agree," he noted.

"As Noah wrote, honor > all. Noah, honor would be you telling me that I was suspended, because, for me, honor was wearing your team's jersey with all my will and commitment.

"But unlike you, I am not here to judge you or criticise you. Just like me, you make mistakes, and I wish you all the best, for everything you did for us." 

The Brazilian player then admitted to being "sad" with the interview that Lucas "steel" Lopes and Ricardo "boltz" Prass gave shortly before their ELEAGUE Premier group matches in which they stated they were "not sure" that the remaining team members had been drinking the night before the DreamHack Montreal final.

Regarding the future of the team, kNgV- wrote that he would like the roster to stick together - even if under a new organisation -, but lamented that some of his teammates "preferred Immortals over the team." 

"I was sad about the video in which steel and boltz said they were not sure that we had gone out, that was f*cked up," he added.

"They knew we had not gone out. And they did not even thank me for the effort I made... Like it was my obligation after the issues with my visa.

"I really would like us to stay together, regardless of Immortals' help, which was really big, only the seven of us (the players, zakk and our video editor, Ricky) know what we went through to get that Major spot.

"Regardless of the organisation, we should stay together, but some people preferred Immortals over the team.

"I understand their decision, but, in my opinion, it was not the best one. Our team was very good and we had achieved the best results of all of our careers.

"Counter-Strike has always been my life. I have fought very hard to be here. I have always had this explosive temper.

"I was already upset about what had happened, and listening that we were hungover made me lose my temper. 

"I made a mistake. But that is not going to make me give up. The game is not over."

Following kNgV-'s departure, twin brothers HEN1 and LUCAS1 both asked to be allowed to leave the team, which forced Immortals to withdraw from the EPICENTER qualifier.

In a Reddit post, Mr. Whinston has revealed that he will make a public statement about the CS:GO team on Friday. 

Canada Pujan 'FNS' Mehta
Pujan 'FNS' Mehta
Age:
25
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
0.91
Maps played:
637
KPR:
0.62
DPR:
0.69
APR:
0.15
Brazil Henrique 'HEN1' Teles
Henrique 'HEN1' Teles
Age:
22
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.14
Maps played:
496
KPR:
0.73
DPR:
0.57
APR:
0.12
Brazil Lucas 'steel' Lopes
Lucas 'steel' Lopes
Age:
24
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.00
Maps played:
540
KPR:
0.67
DPR:
0.65
APR:
0.13
Brazil Lucas 'LUCAS1' Teles
Lucas 'LUCAS1' Teles
Age:
22
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.01
Maps played:
493
KPR:
0.68
DPR:
0.66
APR:
0.16
Brazil Ricardo 'boltz' Prass
Ricardo 'boltz' Prass
Age:
20
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.08
Maps played:
691
KPR:
0.73
DPR:
0.64
APR:
0.17
Brazil Raphael 'cogu' Camargo
Raphael 'cogu' Camargo
Age:
32
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
0.96
Maps played:
86
KPR:
0.65
DPR:
0.68
APR:
0.11
Brazil Rafael 'zakk' Fernandes
Rafael 'zakk' Fernandes
Age:
-
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
0.77
Maps played:
90
KPR:
0.52
DPR:
0.70
APR:
0.13
Brazil Vito 'kNgV-' Giuseppe
Vito 'kNgV-' Giuseppe
Age:
23
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.19
Maps played:
227
KPR:
0.82
DPR:
0.66
APR:
0.11
#1
flusha | 
Finland MIZEE 
Ok very nice!
2017-09-21 16:57
#7
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Brazil bandicoot 
+1
2017-09-21 16:58
#44
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Mongolia Tendies 
don't trust kgngv
2017-09-21 17:05
+1.
2017-09-21 17:13
#103
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Germany No_Kappa 
kek
2017-09-21 17:35
Prove it or ill kill this meme by overusing it
2017-09-21 18:27
#189
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United States Err0h 
No... no don't you dare.... NOT LIKE THIS.
2017-09-21 18:32
+ 1 Prove it or ill kill this meme by overusing it
2017-09-21 19:23
#309
device | 
United Kingdom bas0r 
wwwwwhyyyyyyyy doenst he understand the FNS joke?????????????????? FNS' joke was at HIS OWN COST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! get this into your fucking head kNg
2017-09-21 22:44
#297
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Europe Ferato_ 
2017-09-21 21:40
hahahaha, very well
2017-09-22 16:18
Yes, I was at dreamhack montreal and the comment that Hen1 was sleeping is false, he was watching and cheering for a lol team that was playing, sad that the guys who gets paid cant be professional and just say its their fault and try to justify their behaviors...
2017-09-21 18:08
They didnt say it's not their fault though.
2017-09-21 18:55
#262
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Brazil Mirekz 
he never said that it wasn't his fault tho
2017-09-21 20:25
#305
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Brazil MauricioRoy 
thats funny cuz i know zakk in real life and he told me what happened and this article nails it, stop spreading lies plz
2017-09-21 22:30
+1
2017-09-21 20:44
#11
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Europe Pl4yed 
Some players preferred coming late to a lan final over the team
2017-09-21 17:00
#29
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Brazil bandicoot 
some coaches preffers to kick players and tell why later
2017-09-21 17:01
#52
MiKe | 
Canada Zoey 
if steel and boltz go with the trio and find new org, only the dumb Imm org/ceo will lose
2017-09-21 17:08
#77
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Brazil caoticos 
+1
2017-09-21 17:24
They have contract. They need to find an organization that would pay for their contracts.
2017-09-21 17:27
#220
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United Kingdom HighVoltage 
Like immortals is going to waste money on any of the following: Paying players who can't play because they only have a 4 man roster Paying players that flat out do not want to be there and thus have no motivation to win, or try to win Paying players that disagree with management and the decisions they make and therefore are going to have no self motivation to prioritize the org in any way Yes noah can keep the twins under contract, but what would be the point if they just don't give a shit? That's just a waste of money, and they could probably get away with refusing to play. Yes theoretically noah could sue them, but that would cost a shit load of money, and might not even hold up in court, not to mention it would take over a year to settle the case so at the end of the day, if they want to be released at this point, I reckon they will get their wish
2017-09-21 19:09
#120
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Argentina [Darkaren] 
Not really. Ofc, you lose your squad, you can buy another without any major problem. If you can't be sure what your players do and when you tell one is suspended and then the other 2 are like "nah, you okay bro, come and play" then you have no control over your players at all. Not saying that they should move the players like in chess but they should be able to say "You can't play" and the team respects that decision and the player doesn't play... If i were IMT CEO i would kick KNG no matter how good he is, being such a disrespectful guy is bad for sponsors and bad for public image. It's going to be hard for KNG Hen1 and Lucas to find a good org, whatever they find is going to be scammy af that only wants the sticker money from the major.
2017-09-21 17:39
u think imt gives a shit about their garbage cs team? they make millions off their league of legends team so why should they tolerate this behaviour, ppl making death threats in their name, fucking moron should never be allowed on a team again, imt was nice enough to give him a chance and get out of the shithole that brazil is and this is how he repays them.
2017-09-21 19:06
+1 this behavior affects the entire brand look, their cs team is a small piece of that.
2017-09-21 20:42
lmao I think they had a conversation
2017-09-21 19:58
#209
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Europe keNLey94 
they didn't want to be late are you seriously....
2017-09-21 18:56
#100
RpK | 
Serbia Slavpowa 
What do you guys think now after Immortals disband and lose their Legends major status will their stickers rise in value? I mean there was only one event where there were Immortals stickers so probably there arent that much stickers on the market... At least the foil and holo stickers?
2017-09-21 17:33
#280
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Brazil barbamachado 
+1
2017-09-21 21:00
IMT coach have mind problem, one year ago and imt was one of the underdogs teams like actual LG, I doubt imt will be the some.
2017-09-21 23:36
Prove it or I will kill you :D
2017-09-21 18:05
Lies! Unprofessional and anti-etical. Hope never see you again playing. Sry for boltz and steel
2017-09-21 22:03
#3
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Czech Republic thek!ng 
Arrogant
2017-09-21 16:57
Why? He just told his side of history
2017-09-21 17:35
Except as told before in comments, his side is a lie since one twin have been seen cheering for lol team while he was sleeping according to kng.
2017-09-21 23:57
#323
fer | 
Brazil pedrok 
How can you believe this easily in some random dude from hltv, but can't trust the word of a guy that doesn't need to lie (since he has no contract).
2017-09-22 00:11
#384
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United States Ironwolf21 
Or you take the word of the guy fired - who is looking for another team and if word came out he was late because they were partying too hard.............
2017-09-22 16:38
#412
fer | 
Brazil pedrok 
until then we should at least give him the benefit of the doubt.
2017-09-26 04:47
#131
AMD | 
Brazil wBB 
Prove it or i'll kill you
2017-09-21 17:51
lmao +1
2017-09-21 17:55
#6
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Algeria FATALSki 
well
2017-09-21 16:58
#9
United Kingdom J1MAK 
derp who would risk their career when you can be replaced please go away
2017-09-21 16:58
lul
2017-09-21 16:58
#12
DAVEY | 
Canada josef733 
Just shut up, you have no right to be apart of any great team anymore!
2017-09-21 16:58
+1
2017-09-21 17:23
#173
FalleN | 
United Kingdom UKChef 
I really hope his career dies and everyone forgets about him since no reputable org will ever pick them knowing they're unprofessional ticking time bombs. Kid is an alright player but he thinks he's on top of the world.
2017-09-21 18:21
#295
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Brazil digozamaral 
+1
2017-09-21 21:25
#17
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Singapore sleepyyy 
so many internal problems wtf
2017-09-21 16:59
so much drama about this guy, ffs.
2017-09-21 16:59
or maybe they want to keep playing CS on a high level instead of throwing their career away
2017-09-21 17:00
+1 I'm Brazilian and I hate this guy destroying the Brazilian scene.
2017-09-21 17:17
#78
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Brazil caoticos 
"destroying" LUL
2017-09-21 17:25
#96
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Brazil c0nt 
"destroying the Brazilian scene." kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk kid , relax, It's all right with "Brazilian scene", Do not be afraid, forget your inferiority complex...
2017-09-21 17:32
#234
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Switzerland Alzameister 
Its giving the brazilian scene a bad image. I think thats what he wanted to say
2017-09-21 19:41
Their image was already bad, this further proves that br = monkey
2017-09-21 20:44
#315
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Brazil POISONJR 
EZ REPORT
2017-09-21 23:25
#234
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Switzerland Alzameister 
Its giving the brazilian scene a bad image. I think thats what he wanted to say
2017-09-21 19:41
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA
2017-09-21 17:33
"I'm Brazilian and I hate this guy destroying the Brazilian scene." kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
2017-09-21 18:14
+1.
2017-09-21 19:01
+1
2017-09-21 19:07
#257
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Turkey Kanera 
prove
2017-09-21 20:10
#355
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United States lumpy seal 
it
2017-09-22 08:26
#389
chelo | 
Brazil Deodato 
or
2017-09-22 17:28
#397
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United States lumpy seal 
I'll
2017-09-22 22:06
kill
2017-09-22 23:08
you
2017-09-23 16:47
#99
Pizituh | 
Portugal MrDred 
+1
2017-09-21 17:33
+1
2017-09-21 19:07
Still no sense of what he did has wrong..... sucks that the players now have the power over immortals with the major spot.
2017-09-21 17:00
immortals could just keep them in contract and don't let them leave . let them see what it feels to miss a major
2017-09-21 17:45
#190
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World lalt 
I'd imagine IMT stick with max buyout sum.. So it will be difficult to find org willing to pay for all 3.
2017-09-21 18:33
#263
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Germany AyydanK 
2*, kng was released from his contract
2017-09-21 20:25
#25
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Brazil M1ZERA 
Just a kid.
2017-09-21 17:01
#194
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Brazil luisss 
Prove it or i kill u
2017-09-21 18:35
#26
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Finland raivokkuus 
This nice guy act is coming a little late after his drama queen bullshit on twitter earlier. I don't feel any sympathy for him, but it's undeniably sad that such a promising player (and improving lineup) will have no future due to these actions. Sad..
2017-09-21 17:01
#265
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Brazil Mirekz 
will have no future? he Hen1 and Lucas hold a major spot, i see a pretty bright future for them
2017-09-21 20:26
#282
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Finland raivokkuus 
Well, only if the twins + kNg stick together. And even if that happens, I'm not sure which org would ruin their reputation and pick them up. And you're right, "no future" was a bad choice of words, but their future won't be as bright as if they had simply worked their differences out and stuck together (imo).
2017-09-21 21:05
#311
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Brazil Mirekz 
orgs don't give a shit about reputation, i mean look at Na'vi even tho s1mple was one of the most toxic players out there they hired him.
2017-09-21 22:47
>was >is
2017-09-21 23:32
#318
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Brazil Mirekz 
tell me how many pro players playing on top teams, called germans nazi while streaming and got banned for cheating?? only one, s1mple.
2017-09-21 23:33
>Na'Vi >Top teams
2017-09-22 05:10
#367
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Australia enspia 
I'm sure a lot of orgs would enjoy the sticker money.
2017-09-22 12:36
#28
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Germany hehexdd 
#freekng
2017-09-21 17:01
So, wtf Immortals
2017-09-21 17:02
#32
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Germany Heilpraktiker 
nothing learned that day
2017-09-21 17:02
+1 he didnt undetstand that death threats are bad and tried to milk sympathy
2017-09-21 20:45
gained all respect for ricky
2017-09-21 17:03
#36
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United States MAY0 
This is all he-said she-said and everyone involved is going to give a compelling argument so we best stay unbiased while this plays out unless we have hard evidence
2017-09-21 17:03
this comment is too wise for this place. you are wasting your time.
2017-09-21 19:06
#238
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Brazil LiPByakko 
+1 to both comments.
2017-09-21 19:48
#390
chelo | 
Brazil Deodato 
+1 for all comments above
2017-09-22 17:30
#266
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Brazil Mirekz 
but what he said makes sense, for instance where he says that Immortals never told him that he was suspended, it seemed like only steel knew about it since even the people behind immortals twitter tweeted saying that they would bring KNG for the 2ND map, him not being able to enter USA was also true since he went back to brazil before dreamhack toronto and news sites said that he wouldn't even be playing dreamhack toronto because of visa problems and that zakk would play as a sub
2017-09-21 20:29
what an idiot. why would anyone ever beloeve him
2017-09-21 17:03
I do.
2017-09-21 17:14
I do.
2017-09-21 18:05
FakeFlagger
2017-09-21 18:56
do you have any evidences ?
2017-09-21 18:58
"I do"
2017-09-21 19:00
Good for you.
2017-09-21 19:01
#232
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Canada RobloxPorn 
Convo with yourself?
2017-09-21 19:40
No. He is a disgusting impersonator trying to make me look bad on HLTV.
2017-09-21 19:51
#260
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Canada RobloxPorn 
You're a shit wanting to show up with lies, I really do have you! garbage and liar, you owe me respect.
2017-09-21 20:14
Prove it or he'll kill you.
2017-09-21 19:41
prove it or i'll kill you
2017-09-21 21:45
#170
elemeNt | 
Russia G0A1L 
I do
2017-09-21 18:17
"...only the seven of us (the players, zakk and our video editor, Ricky) know what we went through to get that Major spot."" Yeah you went through Vega, NaVi, F3, Big, and VP, none of which are ranked in the top 10. Other than that I am with KNG on this one, I feel bad for him.
2017-09-21 17:04
Amen
2017-09-21 17:09
kng is a retard he should go back to his shithole and learn how to be civilised
2017-09-21 17:26
Other than being late to a game, what did he do that is uncivilized that other players don't do?
2017-09-21 17:55
Rofl ask fns
2017-09-21 18:01
So he made a joke tweet on twitter, ok that was a mistake, but FNS started it and did the same thing. Even if you say kNG was actually furious, that's still no reason to be kicked from a team.
2017-09-21 18:06
« FNS started it » rofl how old are you ? That FNS started it or not is not the question. He didn’t have to make dead threat that’s all.
2017-09-21 18:10
He wasn't really threatening him, it was a joke, calm down.
2017-09-21 18:12
So chasing FNS in the hotel was a joke?
2017-09-21 18:14
Source or didn't happen.
2017-09-21 18:30
#223
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North America Foxaika 
Ironically, this is a more reasonable way of saying "prove it or I'll kill you" without the nasty consequences of threatening someone.
2017-09-21 19:16
Check your facts..kng really tried to something to fns..reports said that fns needed to hide on McDonalds.
2017-09-21 18:19
If you can show me these reports, I will believe you.
2017-09-21 18:30
Sounds more like a he-said-she-said to me.. Idk who to believe.
2017-09-21 21:11
#374
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World Tiabbz 
LOL you ask for a source, then he shows you a source and then you just say it's invalid. What do you want, video evidence of FNS hiding in a McDonald's or what? you don't want sources, you are just defending kng no matter what
2017-09-22 14:01
Dang, calm down. I was just saying that FNS might exaggerate things.. no need to get mad over it.
2017-09-22 15:32
My apologies, I had commented before even watching the video since I did not have time to watch the video with sound. I just saw it as a podcast with people just talking about it. Now that I watched it I believe FNS.
2017-09-22 15:42
Lol
2017-09-21 21:00
The only thing that in unforgottable here is the fact that they got late and forfeited the first map. That was totally unprofessional and KNG(and the others) really deserved a punishment over it. And that is it. Disregarding the Twitter bravado, which everyone here know that it is just BS. Everyone keeps telling that KNG went after FNS... but guys, come on... Am I the only one here who thinks that confrontating someone (non phisically) who is spreading lies about you is the right thing to do? In the heat of the moment i bet that y'all would've done the same. The funny part is that everyone here is putting a blind side over the thousands of hate messages and latent racism towards Brazilians... but hey... that is ok!
2017-09-21 19:26
Agreed. And another point on the twitter threat is that people might not consider the cultural differences between countries. In portuguese, if someone says his words on that context means more like "I'll kick your ass"... not a nice thing to say to anyone, but definetly not the same meaning I'd expect if I hear that from anyone in US. And was awesome to see that someone else noticed the hate speech on all those comments.. but <irony>I think that's acceptable over the internet, right?! Where everyone is annonymous, brave and don't suffer any consequences on their words.</irony> Good to see that we have at least some people mature enough to show their point of view without look like a under-10 crybaby which only use bad words.. we already have enough of those in game... Regards!
2017-09-22 02:40
FNS wasn't the one who started the rumour though? He made a self-deprecating joke that even when the twins and kNg were supposedly "hungover" CLG still lost. If anything, that's a compliment towards them. And no, in the heat of the moment I would have come clean to stem the bleeding. I'd rather everyone hate me for forfeiting because I overslept rather than for sending a death threat and hunting for a rival player.
2017-09-22 03:06
While I am not FNS, if you know his nature and most of the NA player's attitudes, they "joke" about many things and say them in a playful tone, but most of the time they do believe in what they joke about to some extent. I am pretty sure his comment was not self-deprecating in nature, but more of a demeaning tone while still lamenting that they lost to a bunch of drunkards
2017-09-22 04:28
Come on dude, do you really believe that KNG would be able to put his hands on FNS? There is no way in hell that he would be able to reach him. FNS phisical intregrity was never in peril. Joking about somethings is not cool at all, specially if the joked side has a history about it. It is not ok to throw drunk jokes over people who may indeed have issues with drinking. Even if it FNS intent was to joke about himself, that is simply not ok. The point is: the trio had been acused of being drunk/partying on several ocassions and were hardly criticized over it. It is ok for us, the community to make jokes about it. RYU/FNS had no reason for making such jokes, their behavior was totally unprofessional. It should be easy to see that their lack of profissionalism was the catalyst for all this drama, and therefore they should also be hold accountable on this, and yet, they received no punishment whatsoever. (It is not ok to publicy spread lies in the corporate world, Ryu and FNS would get fired instantly if they worked in a multinational). KNG and IMT could easily make a case against CLG and sue them over this. Again: The only thing that is unforgottable here is the fact that they got late and forfeited the first map. That was totally unprofessional and KNG(and the others) really deserved a punishment over it. And that is it.
2017-09-22 04:31
But even then, as a professional player in one of the most toxic online communities, you would think kNg would be used to that kind of petty insult. Regardless of whether or not Ryu or FNS should be held to blame, it was a drastic overreaction from kNg. All he had to do was say what he has now at that time and this whole thing would have blown over. Though I have trouble believing his reason for why they were late given that he didn't come clean with that earlier.
2017-09-22 04:51
#90
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Italy Div-\ 
Rotfl, thanks man
2017-09-21 17:30
You can not teach manners to these idiots in their undeveloped counties, this is like trying to teach science to a bushman. Someone needs to tell these idiots they are getting paid to play a video game, just stfu and do what your organization tells you to do.
2017-09-21 17:05
do not generalize please
2017-09-21 17:19
#84
AdreN | 
Brazil Danxd22 
Do not speak shit ! They don't have to be immortals bitches.
2017-09-21 17:27
#169
coldzera | 
Brazil wAc 
so u r saying u can buy people if you have money and make them do everything you want? sorry but brazilians aint learning that
2017-09-21 18:16
Nice joke.
2017-09-21 19:02
Lol half of bra71l's women have that exact description
2017-09-21 19:48
#250
coldzera | 
Brazil wAc 
kkkkkkkk, i wish u where right mate
2017-09-21 19:58
he wishes he was right too
2017-09-21 21:35
Yes you do what you are told to on your job this is how things work in developed countries. If your boss tells you to shut up and do your job you do so and you dont argue.
2017-09-21 22:12
#337
coldzera | 
Brazil wAc 
the law in brazil don't let you do that, and is the same in italy, spain, only USA that i know the boss have so much power over the employee, for example if you put someone to work more than 10 hours a day here the boss faces slavery charges
2017-09-22 02:32
0/8 you poor 3rd worlders would smd for a days paycheck
2017-09-21 22:38
#45
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Indonesia boddah27 
sad
2017-09-21 17:05
FNX's son... Hope he never join a tier1/2 team again... Maybe a tier5.
2017-09-21 17:06
#80
AdreN | 
Brazil Danxd22 
KnGv,HEN1 and LUCAS1 are so valuable right now.
2017-09-21 17:25
#93
 | 
Italy Div-\ 
Yeah, but if I were a CEO of a big org I would double/triple think about picking them up. What if the rumors of them partying before the major finals are true? What if I pick up a team made up by a bunch of jerks that would rather spit on my org's name than anything else? I dunno, it's a risky investment.
2017-09-21 17:31
#107
AdreN | 
Brazil Danxd22 
I don't remember anything like this. This was the first time. And for sure, they won't commite that kind of stupidity anymore.
2017-09-21 17:35
#110
 | 
Italy Div-\ 
I would not be so sure. The rumors are there. It's just that there are precedents, so they make they investment risky. And without Boltz and steel who knows what they are capable of, as the two seemed to be the brain of the team.
2017-09-21 17:36
#112
AdreN | 
Brazil Danxd22 
You're right.
2017-09-21 17:37
Look up thoorin on by the nummers, its pretty much confirmed just not a public thing
2017-09-21 22:40
#168
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Sweden LimeyGaming 
Immortals can just hold on to hen1 and lucas until after next major and keep them on the bench. That way they have zero value and noone will likely want to touch either one of those guys again. Immortals holds the cards, not the other way around.
2017-09-21 18:15
Lucas only on that team because of hen HE SUCK so hard
2017-09-21 17:46
#145
AdreN | 
Brazil Danxd22 
Come on man, LUCAS1 isn't that bad. He's decent.
2017-09-21 17:59
He got carried to immortals. Maybe he could do fine in a team like Tempo Storm or LG. But imo. hes not even close to tier1
2017-09-21 18:12
#329
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Brazil Dynamo_ 
No my friend, it is the other way around. Lucas was already called to play in SK in place of FNX, but he did not accept because of the HEN1
2017-09-22 01:37
ORGs dont make money from winning they make money from exposure for sponsors. The value in players lies in their image over their performance.
2017-09-23 13:30
#47
apEX | 
Brazil XEMBAO 
easy for the new top 2 brazilian team
2017-09-21 17:06
hahaha Sure, they will drink and use cocaine during the break to win something hahaha FNX will be the drunk leader
2017-09-21 17:08
#53
apEX | 
Brazil XEMBAO 
wtf
2017-09-21 17:08
And they will still win against the NA teams
2017-09-21 17:19
As if they didn't before?
2017-09-21 19:53
what a retard
2017-09-21 17:07
#56
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Argentina deftool 
excelent words, no more to say fly to brasil and then to canada in the same day because others fault it's a shame (sry 4 my english)
2017-09-21 17:11
BRASILIAN SOAP OPERA omg THATS WHAT EXACTLY ESPORTS IS .. FULL OF KIDS WHO THINK THEY ARE BIG ... BIG EGOS SMALL BRAIN MOSTLY SCANDINAVIAN AND BRA PLAYERS ...
2017-09-21 17:13
I liked how it said in the end More to follow...
2017-09-21 17:14
Cry more.
2017-09-21 17:15
If we believe on each word he's saying, this testimonial clarifies for me a series of errors. 1- kNgV guilty on showing up late in the final (looks like he didn't give the importance needed for that schedule change) 2- Whoever sent a message to Steel should (IMO) reach out zakk, since he's the coach... but Steel should also let every single person know about that change (again, IMO) 3- IMT staff miscommunication, with a manager saying something different from his CEO 4- Noah to expose the problem on Twitter. Dude, you can argue anything but I don't see CEOs for big companies going on Twitter to talk about internal matters... specially in that scenario, which kNgV looked critical for IMT victory. But most of all above, kNgV full statement (which is not reproduced in here so far) just shows me that the team wasn't united in the first place. How the other players simply go to the finals without their teammates? How we have a controversial video statement like Boltz and Steel did, where they say the guys might or might not be partying during the finals?! And don't get me wrong: I love watching Boltz, Steel and the whole crew, but I'm not 20 and can understand differences on how people do their job. I feel in the end the only big guilt is on IMT shoulders, to put together people so different and incompatible and don't be able to predict something like that would happen...
2017-09-21 17:18
#186
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Sweden LimeyGaming 
Your conclusion is off base. 1. Correct 2. If zakk isn't at the venue but steel is, they reach out to steel. Hence they have fulfilled their duty of communicating the change with the team. 3. Yes, or a blatant lie from lucas and hen that wanted their teammate to play. Not too farfetched to think it could be this way to force themselves out from an org they didn't like anymore. They have proven capable of childish behaviour at a number of occasions. 4. The fact you compare big companies with esports is hilarious in so many ways. Compare it with SPORTS. Not big companies. Most big companies CEO's aren't exposed to the public light in the way sports are. If a player isn't performing his duty for a team in pro sports (NFL, NBA or w-ever) he's gonna receive open criticism from a majority of the executives of his team. I can provide a number of examples from the NFL (the league I follow the most), which also happens to be one of the highest turnovers when it comes to money in pro sports. This is on the players. Act professional to begin with and nothing would fucking happen. Even if those persons doesn't like eachother it's their god damn job to fit as a unit. If they don't produce results as a unit then it's on the org. Having people that don't like eachother but produce results means the org is succeeding. Then it's all down to the players acting like spoiled kids. Imo, I hope to dear God immortals holds on to lucas and hen until after the next major. Don't care about trade offers. That way they hold zero value for any team to pick up, only insane amount of risks. These retarded ungrateful kids doesn't deserve to be pros. They lost that privilege with their childish actions.
2017-09-21 18:31
Thanks for the comment! I really appreciated! I don't feel there's a big gap on our understandings. Sorry for not being so clear... I feel I didn't go deeper I would need, trying to avoid a huge post... One part of what I was thinking has more about responsibilities wihtin the team. I see coaches as "managers" for the crew, which make me feel that they should be the only ones reachable from any Championship staff. And I base my argument on the same example you used: sports. It's interesting to read from you how NFL works about it, because I mostly follow soccer leagues and feel they act little bit different. Of course executives go and talk when things go really bad, but usually coaches try to shield the team of those critiques, to keep them focused on the game. And then, I go back to zakk role in all of this: maybe it's time to re-think the role of coaches in CSGO pro scene. Talking about professionalism, I think the lack of it was shown on hen1 and lucas1 asking to leave after kNgV departure. I mean, I won't quit my job if a friend is fired! And I also hope that IMT doesn't let them leave until the next major. But one side of (at least the brazilian) CSGO pro scene is that teams are more than players under the same org budget. They build a relationship even because most of them need to move from their houses, live together with teammates, struggle together... the whole interation, I think, is different from what we should expect from a soccer team, for instance. So, I don't like someone from my job, I don't need to go back home and face him again another 16 hours... And that's why I feel that, even having players causing some mess, the lack of people management skills from IMT executives contributed (a lot IMO) to create a bigger problem that this should be. And we all like to call out about professionalism about those pro players, but in the end we're talking about 20-aged people, which don't have much years as "professionals". So all CSGO orgs need to understand that and guide the players and help them to be more mature. Again, I'm not saying there shouldn't have punishment and orgs need to accept anything, but managers who deal with players need to adapt their managing skills to their audience.
2017-09-21 19:39
#70
NiKo | 
Croatia AzorAhai 
I don't like what he did , but i kinda feel bad for him :/ Promising player , hope he gets a 2nd chance
2017-09-21 17:22
+1 he will, him lucas and hen have the major spot, imt is fucked =p
2017-09-21 17:37
Rofl that’s what kids think. You are dumb af if you think that they will win something without steel and botz.
2017-09-21 18:07
#172
coldzera | 
Brazil wAc 
it depends on who they get, there a lots of portuguese and brazilians good players
2017-09-21 18:20
but are they hard workers like boltz and steel?
2017-09-21 18:23
#175
coldzera | 
Brazil wAc 
I'm not a big fan of boltz cs tbh, he have 0 game sense, he is good cause his aim is surreal, so if you get a more talented player and give him motivation to work that hard he will be good, in Brazil there are some players in team One that could do that
2017-09-21 18:25
yep I have no doubt there are good players in brazil, but is there in game leader that has a good lead and/or can frag?
2017-09-21 18:30
#191
coldzera | 
Brazil wAc 
the hard thing is getting a igl that is not a awper, cause the team have 2 awpers and the best igl here are awpers
2017-09-21 18:33
that's why I'm saying that they need Boltz and steel
2017-09-21 18:34
#198
fnx | 
Brazil ariel439 
Lucas, Hen, Kng, Fnx, Bit
2017-09-21 18:40
#193
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Sweden LimeyGaming 
You are dumb as fk if you think they hold the cards? Immortals still have the rights for hen and lucas. They won't drop them until after the next major regardless of what happens. That way they have zero value only risks for the next org to sign them. You think the players have leverage? Think again. This time, use your brain.
2017-09-21 18:35
dude, wtf you saying lol first of all calm down, I know sweden and nip are tier 3 and you mad about it, but calm down, reported for calling me dumb =D dude, it doesnt matter, lets say imt fuck the players over in every aspect possible: still, they need another cs go team who da fock will they get?????????????? think with your brain this time =) if hen lucas and kng dont play for 6 months, they have more chance of success in 2018 than imt lol and btw, learn some education, why are you losing control and start cursing over people LMAO sweden tier 3 keep crying pls ='( #thecryisfree
2017-09-21 19:49
#240
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Sweden LimeyGaming 
Who says I'm not calm? I'm just amazed by your stupidity. Didn't think anyone could be this stupid, but gratz for proving it is possible. Also 0/8, you are just the definition of human garbage.
2017-09-21 19:51
LMAO dude you are mad af cursing and talking shit, cuz someone has a different opinion than you you never said where I'm wrong, or where you are right =p just talking nonsense and btw still swedish cs tier 3 :> #thecryisfree
2017-09-21 19:52
why would you feel bad for him? He's not sorry and hasn't apologised for anything he's done
2017-09-21 19:17
he fucked his career himself, why being sorry for him?
2017-09-21 19:58
gl knGOD, you will get better!!
2017-09-21 17:22
#85
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Slovakia Trav1s 
yeah they played cards ::D:D:D:D:D
2017-09-21 17:27
#118
Nodios | 
Liechtenstein diosf 
ok them
2017-09-21 17:39
>Played cards to 1am >couldnt sleep until 7 Seems legit
2017-09-21 22:46
kng is king
2017-09-21 17:28
Goes to bed at 1am Couldn't fall asleep until 7am Hmmm... Prove it or ill kill you
2017-09-21 17:31
#122
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Brazil hunte[R] 
+1 he's so tired he couldn't fall asleep til 7am, pff.. BIGTIME BS
2017-09-21 17:41
#267
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Brazil Mirekz 
lol retard if you have insomnia you just can't sleep even if you're tired notice that he says on his facebook post that he took pills to sleep but still couldn't only ppl that take pills to sleep are people that have insomnia my mother has it and some nights even tho she takes a bunch of pills she can't sleep.
2017-09-21 20:33
#273
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Brazil hunte[R] 
you can believe in him, i believe other pros who saw him drinking with twins
2017-09-21 20:44
So many obvious lies in his statements tbh, sympathy seeking answers lol
2017-09-21 22:47
#375
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Brazil hunte[R] 
+1
2017-09-22 15:03
I have big problems to fall asleep, so i understand he couldnt sleep at the right time
2017-09-21 18:49
ok
2017-09-21 17:36
#114
Estonia rYm 
true Brazilian soup opera
2017-09-21 17:37
#121
Nodios | 
Liechtenstein diosf 
confirmed
2017-09-21 17:40
#115
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United States gtmaniacmda 
I was not drunk! It's not true! It's bullshit, I was not drunk, I was not... oh hi Noah.
2017-09-21 17:38
hahah nice reference, I lol'd.
2017-09-21 19:55
#117
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Brazil BuddyINSANE 
... no comments... Thats like a novel's end! We smart, we loyal, we friendly, we are from BRAZIL! Kreygasm
2017-09-21 17:38
#125
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Poland Kluuseek 
Good to hear that. I really thought that they were drunk. I hope that they will stay all together.
2017-09-21 17:44
this guy should stfu for like 2 years straight before publicly speaking again.
2017-09-21 17:46
#runkNgV i can't wait till you return and kick all these pussybois asses
2017-09-21 17:48
#133
HObbit | 
Spain Alser 
lul nice try Still hasn't apologised to FNS and now says he couldn't sleep from 1 to 7 am? lol
2017-09-21 17:52
lol thinking anyone has to apologise to some slanderer. nt. kNgV already allowed him. FNS should be grateful.
2017-09-21 18:34
kNgOD
2017-09-21 17:53
#139
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Germany ndr^ 
respect kNgV- don't bend over and stand your ground!
2017-09-21 17:56
#140
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France [shark] 
Oh yeah KnG is an angel, everything is actually okay lul
2017-09-21 17:57
This guy is entitled af lol.
2017-09-21 17:57
kng king
2017-09-21 17:57
Go kNg!! he is clearly a great guy, and deserves to continue playing the game :D I'm sad steel and boltz will not be playing with kNg and the twins, they were looking amazing !! :( but regardless, nice to see your side of the story, people are jealous and will criticize you and even make up lies to burn your image, sadly there is lots of people like this in our world. Succes my friend!! wish you the best
2017-09-21 18:01
Stopped reading at "great guy"
2017-09-21 20:02
he is bro ^^
2017-09-21 21:49
Said "great guy" sent a death threat to someone who made a self-deprecating joke and refuses to take full responsibility for what happened.
2017-09-22 03:13
He's a terrible guy. Irresponsible, aggressive, unfair to his org and unfair to his teammates Steel and Boltz. "...some people preferred Immortals over the team..." well, when 3/5 of the team are backstabbing children, I would prefer IMT too
2017-09-22 12:58
you guys are being too harsh and narrow minded... he is just an emotinal guy who has temperament issues, you dont know his story and what he has been through, so dont be so quick to judge.
2017-09-22 18:11
How can you possibly think that "his story" justifies any of what he did? That card doesn't work on the real world son. I'm not "quick to judge", he did wrong again and again and refuses to even apologise for that, he has had more than a second chance and still fucked all up
2017-09-23 05:48
he did mistakes, that is far from making him a `terrible guy`. Immortals CEO also did mistakes, so they were BOTH responsible for the outcome. Still I think kNg is a great guy and I hope he learn from his mistakes and continue to play great CS
2017-09-23 05:55
Mistakes? What did the IMT CEO do? LUL You're saying that just because kng said it... in a very vague way btw... grow up
2017-09-23 06:09
There is no hard evidence of them going out partying in Montreal the night before their matches. All we have is some stupid tweets. I'm not saying I believe everything kng is saying here but to be fair DH montreal was t3 event and everybody can make a mistake when they are young. Hope he can learn from his mistakes and that these players can keep playing together. It does seem like IMT management had some poor communication with their players.
2017-09-21 18:01
#201
fer | 
Chile siag 
i think kng is saying the truth. he has been the only who speaks with names and times. before this statement we didnt knew it was kng zakk and hen1 the ones who came up late. we all thought it was kng hen1 and lucas. so, if zakk got late too, why he wasnt kicked? its strange. noah is acting weird. he lost his best roster ever and now probably wont ever have a legend status again
2017-09-21 18:47
#339
Ant1ka | 
Indonesia Frver 
they kicked kng for playing while he's punished, maybe the others have their own punishment.
2017-09-22 02:48
#149
FalleN | 
Brazil iagozv 
#FreekNgV-
2017-09-21 18:02
This guy is my idol. How can you dislike someone like him ??? Best wishes King Vito. Ill be always cheering for you.
2017-09-21 18:03
Respect!
2017-09-21 18:07
#151
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North America Fatson2k 
Tbh if the whole roster goes under a new org or even without an org , they'll survive by wining tournaments.
2017-09-21 18:04
#155
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Armenia Imissexoptic 
still didn't apologize for his ridiculous behavior what a retard
2017-09-21 18:07
#158
fer | 
Brazil cyrax12 
kNgod
2017-09-21 18:07
#160
 | 
Germany Tunio 
playing the victim LMAO
2017-09-21 18:09
"zakk and I woke up at 3.30, and we ran to the venue. We got there at 3.40" "it was just 5 minutes" obvious liar, please ban him
2017-09-21 18:14
poor communication and ego from immortals CEO was big reason why things fell apart
2017-09-21 18:14
+1
2017-09-22 02:02
#177
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Canada Elazul 
Eat shit and die. - Duke nukem
2017-09-21 18:25
#178
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Other cscrmn1 
For those who didn't understand why he said "Some players preferred Immortals over the team": Basically, kng stated that it was steel who told him that he was punished from the game vs CLG. And during the second game of the BO3, Lucas1 and hen1 messaged Nick (immortal's manager) to let him play, and apparently Nick had given him permission. As kng steps in, their CEO secretly kicked him and didn't say a word before publishing the tweet. So basically he's telling that the org Immortals backstabbed him. The expression "some players preferred immortals over the team" means that the plan was to keep their team + coach and all of them left the org because they were two faced towards kNg, but boltz and steel refused to leave with them. It's insane how the things turned out to happen, how a simple miscommunication ends up in such a big split up, and a team simply not be able to continue their big journey together... it's sad.
2017-09-21 18:32
#245
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Brazil cardena 
+1
2017-09-21 19:53
tbh they should all join Luminosity, they should have money to keep them under their wings wih decent salary at the start
2017-09-21 21:20
#301
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Other cscrmn1 
Yeah but steel and boltz are sticking to this org.
2017-09-21 21:50
cause they pay them like 15k$ + they probably didn't talk about that in group
2017-09-22 10:47
#366
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Other cscrmn1 
Of course they have talked about that in group... and I don't think money is a big issue since LG is a big org, probably better known than IMT in the esports scene.
2017-09-22 12:23
if they talked thats kinda stupid decision to split such a strong team
2017-09-22 15:42
Big kid, cry retard !!!!
2017-09-21 18:27
#181
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Canada Elazul 
Everyone says he's such a man but can't corroborate. Liar, braindead, peanut brain. Instigate the thug peanut brain mentality. Oh such a man. Can't even handle a conversation.
2017-09-21 18:28
What an asshole, honestly. In any other sporting organisation in any other sport he'd have been sacked as well. Still thinks he's some sort of exception to the rule. Hope he doesn't find his way onto any other top tier teams.
2017-09-21 18:30
#197
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Sweden LimeyGaming 
They won't. Immortals will, if they aren't stupid, hold on to the rights of lucas and hen until after the next major. That way all three have zero value only risks for the next org that might have been looking to sign them. Noone with a reputation is gonna touch them at that point.
2017-09-21 18:40
wow now i see, kng is a good boy, i feel sad for him :(
2017-09-21 18:32
#188
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Poland Marcines 
tl'dr?
2017-09-21 18:32
You need to be more active to be able to create new forum topics.
2017-09-21 18:37
#196
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United Kingdom FEodAL 
the game is over me friend
2017-09-21 18:40
I just posted "prove it or ill kill you" , some salty br cunts reported it and it got deleted. talk about being triggered
2017-09-21 18:43
#200
 | 
United States lLub 
kng looks like a rapist
2017-09-21 18:44
pls kng stop playing
2017-09-21 18:49
Punjabi fucked him over. Hahaha
2017-09-21 18:49
#205
FalleN | 
Brazil Feio91 
KING <3
2017-09-21 18:52
#206
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Singapore chungsterr 
Deserved to get kicked. Hopefully no organisation picks this asshole up
2017-09-21 18:54
#215
coldzera | 
Brazil Heus 
Bad Administration, Shit FNS who start all the shit we see now
2017-09-21 19:04
lol you morons knows nothing about business. No big company will sponsor a team who has a player throwing deaththreats left and right, kngs only chance of a career is to find players whos willing to live off tournaments winings only, which will never happen so basically he's done, love it.
2017-09-21 19:11
Ok Is it just me, or does kNg look a LOT like byali??
2017-09-21 19:10
Cry little monkey, cry. Just got what you deserved. You dont belong to the human's world. Go back to your cage.
2017-09-21 19:18
#226
 | 
Brazil Charizaldo 
Prove it
2017-09-21 19:19
#227
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United States ViKaLiBuR 
Prove he said this or I'll kill you.
2017-09-21 19:23
yeah, noah whinston didn't tell kNg he was suspended. Fuck off. We all know that's bullshit. But even so, steel told him he was suspended. Absolutely no excuse for him playing at that point, and no excuse for the twins lying to him. All three of them should never be signed to a halfway reputable org ever again.
2017-09-21 19:47
#269
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Brazil Mirekz 
how do you know that's bullshit? lets bring up some facts people responsible for Immortals twitter tweeted this twitter.com/Immortals/status/91030971435.. saying that they would bring KNG for the second map, so it clearly shows that the communication inside the org is shit you said that Steel told him that he was suspended but after that Hen1 and Lucas spoke with twitter.com/swaguhsaurus Immortals manager, and he cleared KNG, now, maybe he didn't know Noah's decision too since we saw that people behind their twitter didn't. plus there's the fact that Noah never made KNG suspesion public, what would be the reason behind that?
2017-09-21 20:39
I didn't see the tweet saying they would bring in kng for the second map, do you have an actual link? Idk why, but I think it's more likely that Hen1 and Lucas1 lied about talking to the manager. It makes no sense that steel would know, but the manager wouldn't. And the reason he wouldn't make the suspension public is that the suspension was meant to give Immortals time to investigate. No reason to publicly announce a suspension if you haven't decided on a real punishment yet, and why let him play with bad ping if he's just gonna get kicked at the end of it?
2017-09-22 00:53
#333
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Brazil Mirekz 
dude did you even read my post? i linked the tweet there plus nobody contacted Nick to hear what he has to say, people are just assuming that hen1 and lucas lied about it while they could just ask nick
2017-09-22 01:45
misleading title
2017-09-21 19:51
Hi, I'm kNg and I put my teammates in a horrible position by not showing up to semi-finals because I was tired QQ and I expect them to pick me over an organization that pays me a fat salary and gives me shelter and a good life. But hey, it's none of my business (sips his tea).
2017-09-21 19:56
"some players preferred Immortals over the team" this statement killed me He obviously didn't prefer the org over cachaça in Montreal
2017-09-21 20:05
gl kiNgV
2017-09-21 19:58
Everything happens for a reason, idc about his whimpers
2017-09-21 20:03
#254
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Turkey Gerky 
#freesteel
2017-09-21 20:05
This is a good business case to be used in Management classes, there are so many mistakes from the company and from the players that apparently the main problem is organizational.
2017-09-21 20:09
#258
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Brazil Collee 
Guy sends a death threat and gets kicked from the org. Any racional human being would prefer the org, ofc. Not the case of lucas and hen1, sadly. You can't just talk this kind of stuff and expect people to follow you
2017-09-21 20:10
#FUCK FNS #GL KNG
2017-09-21 20:11
But unlike you, I am not here to judge you or criticise you Sounds like you are criticizing.
2017-09-21 20:17
"In a Reddit post, Mr. Whinston has revealed that he will make a public statement about the CS:GO team on Friday. " he needs more than 24hours to perfectly formulate a perfect defence statement to tr discredit the players and protect himself, but whats the point. justification wont fix anything, you ruined a top5 team just because the community disliked 1 tweet reply to a defamation statement maybe you should listen to kNg and ask FNS to prove they were out partying, instead of crucifying your own players FFS
2017-09-21 20:34
"Lucas "LUCAS1" Teles and Henrique "HEN1" Teles asked me to play and said that they had messaged [General Manager] Nick [Phan], who had given permission for me to play." Typical monkey bullshit
2017-09-21 20:41
playing cards.. well 22yo playing cards ofc bro
2017-09-21 20:51
#277
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Portugal dracø 
"SOME PLAYERS PREFERRED IMMORTALS OVER THE TEAM" Jeez I wonder why, they had to choose between getting a 15k salary from the org or playing with unprofessional ppl.. Can't believe he's playing the victim card after all the shit that went on LUL I hope the twins open their eyes and realize how much they are throwing away because of this guy..
2017-09-21 20:51
#278
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India KaRaNiGuOl 
guess what.... CRY IS FREE!
2017-09-21 20:56
#279
shox | 
France UniTim 
who care ?
2017-09-21 20:57
Thousands of people?
2017-09-21 21:17
Immortals CEO is a party pooper and should feel bad. The party never stops. These skilled players will now join an org that will respect their way of life.
2017-09-21 21:10
respect their way of life???? they were late on f*cking MAJOR FINAL................. as a German you should understand it better than others. they disrespect respect all except themselves...
2017-09-21 21:13
take a deep breath
2017-09-21 21:15
ty
2017-09-21 21:18
GO TO LUMINOSITY GUYSSS
2017-09-21 21:16
RIP IMMT
2017-09-21 21:16
New Immortals: boltz steel DaZeD AZK swag
2017-09-21 21:17
Sad that KNG won't just man up and take responsibility for his actions. Regardless of all the twitter shit, he could have said "we fucked up and were late to a grand final, this is unacceptable" instead he writes 4 paragraphs of excuses which are ultimately that they were sleeping. The fact is, you're a professional representing a multi million dollar organization with multi million dollar sponsors. You need to act like a professional and not make the org look bad. I hope he and the twins can learn from this and make better choices in the future. However, it really seems like they're doubling down and pretending it wasn't that bad. If the twins really do go back to Brazil, immortals will call their bluff and have some insane buyout that no org will pay. Feels bad for steel and boltz, they're both great players who will be stuck in this shit storm and probably get fucked over. KNG airing all this shit on Facebook makes him no better than the IMT CEO. Both should realize as professionals you keep that shit in house and don't take it public.
2017-09-21 21:19
Thank you. It's funny that a lot of people are defending them... these cucks made some big mistakes and won't even own up to it, it really is sad that they haven't learned a single thing from this.
2017-09-22 09:53
#293
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Brazil oldStar 
First Red Reserve Now Immortals Next ?
2017-09-21 21:19
#299
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Brazil HOM3RR 
Junkie!
2017-09-21 21:48
KNG fucked up hard by showing up late for semi-finals and finals game, and then talking shit to fns and not apologizing afterward. He is in the wrong-side on this story and deserved some punishment. However, I am pretty sure that the classic internet witch hunt blowed this shit out of proportion (I mean kicking him from IMT and dismantling a major finalist team) and I will explain why: Lets be honest: there is zero evidence that the IMT trio was drinking and partying the night before DH grand-final other than clg ryu's tweet saying "some people, and I'm not saying who, told me they were partying". Taking into consideration the story told by kng on facebook, that few days before DH Montreal he had serious VISA issues that made him be detained in USA immigration department for 2 days, making it necessary taking a flight to Brazil, and then flying back to Montreal THE SAME DAY, 12 hours before DH Montreal started, it is pretty possible that he was tired as fuck and jet-lagged during the tournament. I think FNS is a nice guy but honestly, I don't know what he was thinking when he made that tweet saying they lost to a team who had 3 players hungover. First of all, he NEVER MADE IT CLEAR it was a joke, his tweet literally only said "Worst part is I lost to a team with 3 players who were hung over >:(". Dude, come on, everybody already knows that the IMT trio has a fame of being unprofessional party animals, they had already been punished losing one map at the grand-finals for being late, cant you fucking see that this tweet is only throwing more fuel into the witch hunters fire? Can't you see that this joke was obviously feeding false rumors on people that had already put themselves in a very bad/delicate situation? Seriously how the fuck are people supposed to tell whether if it is a joke or a salty comment after losing the semi-finals game? If KNG didn't party/drink the night before the grand-finals like he says, and let me say it again there is zero real evidence that they did, he has all the right in the world to be pissed off with FNS. OBVIOUSLY, IT DOESNT GIVE KNG THE RIGHT TO SAY THAT HE WILL KILL ANYBODY, but let's be fucking honest, seriously, what are the odds that he was talking about murder when he said prove it or ill kill you? If he had any real intention of murdering FNS, would he fucking post it on twitter before trying to do it? We all have seen a thousand times angry people saying I will kill you when they actually meant I will kick your ass or I will punch you. I KNOW THAT THREATENING ANYONE WITH VIOLENCE IS ALWAYS WRONG, but there is a very big difference between wanting to physically assault and wanting to actually murder someone. KNG is definitely wrong for not apologizing to FNS, but seriously, who here has never done the same mistake of saying things you actually didn't intend to do in a moment where you were really angry? Yes kng may not be a very likable person and deserved some punishment, but the internet witch hunt made this shit go out of proportion. If the exact same story had happened with some pro-player that has a big fan base I am sure that 90% of the community wouldn't react the same way and it would end up with a 1-month salary withdraw, watching an anger issues seminar or something like that.
2017-09-21 22:13
dude, you can say, ill fk your mum. but dont kill anyone...
2017-09-22 01:44
+1
2017-09-22 06:27
#372
tabseN | 
Germany Ntasu 
It doesn't comes down to this twitter post. This Twitter post is a secondary part of this story. More important is... Comes to late to an LAN final... Fans buy for this. Disrespectful as fuck to the fans and the tournament organizers. Then he made a awful post... But immortal suspend him and he gave a fuck about what immortal said. That is not professional that is a behavior like a 12 years old kid And that is the reason why hopefully never plays again in a pro clan
2017-09-22 13:34
#306
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World AngelShinta 
"It was just five minutes, it would have been good sense [to wait] to not ruin the final... Oh well, rules are rules." ..hahah YOU GUYS ruined the finals! not the organizers! if you are too stupid to follow RULES it is YOUR FAULT! ffs that retard really is blaming the organizers...
2017-09-21 22:36
Man, here in brazil the things are different. We never arrive at the right time... I know that for you it's a big mistake, but for us it's normal... Thatt's why he said it...
2017-09-22 06:31
#357
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Faroe Islands rezpecful 
Monkey education indeed
2017-09-22 09:14
Learn not to be an intoleran, our culture is different in many ways as your culture too.
2017-09-22 16:11
#404
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Faroe Islands rezpecful 
Monkey
2017-09-23 13:17
I explained to you, u didnt understand. It means that youre the only monkey here
2017-09-23 13:32
#408
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Faroe Islands rezpecful 
Shitty monkey being late is not acceptable regardless of your culture
2017-09-24 10:55
Once again you're are acting like a monkey. I didnt say it is acceptable, what I said was that, here in brazil, we have a "jeitinho brasileiro" that something like 5 minutes wouldnt give WO to immortals. I didnt said it's right, just that it's normal that he think the game could be realized.
2017-09-24 14:40
#410
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Faroe Islands rezpecful 
To sum it up brazilians are dumb animals
2017-09-25 12:57
#371
tabseN | 
Germany Ntasu 
Sry wrong comment
2017-09-22 13:33
#313
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Ukraine take_away 
karma for the Krakow behaviour
2017-09-21 22:58
#314
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United Kingdom INGEMARSSON_ 
You're a professional, start acting like it. You will be given another chance elsewhere, but if you don't get your shit together and fuck up again like this, you're done.
2017-09-21 23:10
#316
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Poland zimny1337 
And where is the truth now?
2017-09-21 23:30
Honestly, that was a pretty good statement explaining everything. I can only assume he sobered up before writing it.
2017-09-21 23:45
#322
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Argentina jrr10 
I love all this drama
2017-09-22 00:08
Juajua a mi tambien !
2017-09-22 01:40
drunk liar
2017-09-22 00:17
No one cares about kNg.. he should just cry himself to sleep
2017-09-22 00:18
#freekng
2017-09-22 00:35
WoW, here comes the perpetrator throwing the victim card. Dude..... Just accept you have a shitty behaviour, or you will never improve it.
2017-09-22 00:36
pls stop using the internet kng... its anoying. stop it.
2017-09-22 01:40
#334
flusha | 
Sweden moxxy 
Fnx, Kng, Hen1, Lucas + someone inc
2017-09-22 02:02
kNgV did nothing wrong. You're a virgin if you disagree because real men don't waste time playing games, they party and fuck bitches.
2017-09-22 02:15
+1
2017-09-22 06:32
Yeah that's what winners do, not these losers.
2017-09-22 09:56
I feel like all of this could have been avoided with an alarm.
2017-09-22 03:09
+1 Are people actually buying the nap bs?
2017-09-22 06:22
Nah, even if they were out drinking an alarm could have warned them.
2017-09-22 07:16
agreed!
2017-09-22 07:17
His Teammates knew from his suspension and he not?? He couldn't set an Alarm Clock on his phone??? i dont buy this shit... he doesnt even excuse for his death threat!!
2017-09-22 07:22
#354
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Malaysia phyzell 
Lagging Legends = Hand of God
2017-09-22 07:26
#356
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Faroe Islands rezpecful 
Brazil scene lmao
2017-09-22 09:13
Singapore scene LOL
2017-09-22 12:59
#392
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Faroe Islands rezpecful 
Brazil scene disband shithead monkeys
2017-09-22 18:06
"But unlike you, I am not here to judge you or criticise you. " :DD When will this guy make an honest apology
2017-09-22 09:44
still no excuse for the death threat... what a sad person he is
2017-09-22 09:55
when 3/5 of the team is a bunch a irresponsible children, then yeah... I would choose the org too
2017-09-22 10:40
+1
2017-09-22 13:46
#387
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Brazil oldStar 
+1
2017-09-22 17:21
#364
dupreeh | 
Denmark megz 
Even if this statement has any truth to it, it all comes down to him not beeing able or willing to make a public excuse. That is unacceptable, and hence its only reasonable that hes beeing cut.
2017-09-22 10:48
#365
tabseN | 
Germany Ntasu 
This liar and cry baby should finally leave esports. Go back to your home and come never back. Immortal gave you work paid you a salery and helped you out of a bad life and you still not thankful. Not need to be thankful but respect is the only thing that you should have... Nope you hurt them by ur selfish behavior. Guys like you should never be able to play for money.
2017-09-22 12:07
#403
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Indonesia FinZzz 
+1
2017-09-23 08:58
#370
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Other chanse 
nice, three toxic players left
2017-09-22 13:02
#386
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Brazil oldStar 
+1
2017-09-22 17:20
#379
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Venezuela rodux 
the game is def OVER for u... so go sleep well. #GrowUp #TemperMyBallsNow
2017-09-22 15:47
bullshit, why steel and boltz come to stage without him and twins if they are just sleeping? this kinda of lieshit doesn't match with the facts. Really, kng is one of the best brazillian players but don't deserve this spot on imt
2017-09-22 15:53
Steel, boltz, fnx, Horvyy, cogu. Crazy but interesting. xD
2017-09-22 16:34
#388
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Brazil oldStar 
kNgV - "Genius"
2017-09-22 17:23
#391
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Brazil vicgod 
KNg - ANTA
2017-09-22 17:37
Vito "TwoFaced" Toledo
2017-09-22 18:14
Some players preferred to drink over the team
2017-09-22 20:53
An Italian team should hire KngV since he's half Italian and this team could be expose his wine and alcohol brands. KngV the italian hope /discuss
2017-09-22 21:03
#402
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Indonesia FinZzz 
So about pretty much everyone who are eye witnesses said that the twins + KNG went out partying the nighf before the final. The only people who deny this are KNG and the twins. HMMMMMM
2017-09-23 08:57
Don't have solid proof, but either way he's still shifting the blame and hasn't fully accepted responsibility for being late.
2017-09-25 13:07
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