Immortals CEO: "Major is not worth more than what we stand for"

MIRAA
September 22nd, 2017 21:10

Immortals CEO Noah Whinston has commented on Vito "kNgV-" Giuseppe's release and shed some light on what the future holds for the organisation's Counter-Strike team.

Immortals' team have been left in disarray after Vito "kNgV-" Giuseppe was released from his contract, and twin brothers Henrique "HEN1" Teles and Lucas "LUCAS1" Teles requested to be moved to the bench.

During the Summer, the trio had already expressed their wish to leave for pastures new, but the team's issues reached a new level at DreamHack Montreal, where Immortals forfeited a map in the final after arriving late at the venue, and kNgV- publicly threatened Pujan "FNS" Mehta over a joke made by the CLG member about him and the twins being hungover on the final day of the event.

LUCAS1 and HEN1 have been suspended indefinitely

In a video posted on Immortals' Youtube, Mr. Whinston admits that, following kNgV-'s remarks, he "wanted to cut kNgV- from the team" immediately, but the other players, as well as coach Rafael "zakk" Fernandes, convinced him to give the 22-year-old "a second chance" and "the opportunity to apologise, reform and rehabilitate himself" and to "continue playing on the Immortals CS:GO roster".

"Originally, we had set a call with kNg for the night of Monday, the 18th, the day before the online match against CLG, in the EPICENTER qualifier" he noted.

"kNg, for some reason, was not able to make that call, so until we were able to connect directly with him and discuss the situation, I let zakk tell the players that kNg was not permitted to play until we had figured out the game plan for how he would be proceeding with the Immortals organisation."

With zakk as a stand-in, Immortals lost the first map of the best-of-three series against CLG. kNgV- came on after that, helping the team to turn the series around, with Mr. Whinston posting on Twitter after the match that the player been under "internal suspension" and "was not authorised" to play for Immortals.

"HEN1 and LUCAS1 refused to continue to play the match unless kNg was allowed to play," he reveals.

"kNg playing was a direct violation of the punishment that we had communicated to him and the players less than a day earlier.

"For violating that punishment, kNg was immediately terminated from his contract and is not part of Immortals and will never again be part of Immortals."

Following kNgV-'s release, Mr. Whinston adds, both HEN1 and LUCAS1 "made it very clear that they would not be willing to continue playing for the organisation", which made Immortals place the twin brothers "on indefinite suspension on the bench", where they will stay until "an organisation wants to buy them out of their contracts or until they change their minds and decide to play on the starting roster" once again.

"I was not left with many options if we wanted to preserve the philosophies and the ideals that Immortals as a brand stands for," the Immortals CEO explains. "At its core, this disagreement between the players and the organisation can be boiled down to a difference in philosophy.

"For HEN1, for LUCAS1 and for kNg, winning is everything, and anything done in pursuit of winning is justifiable. But for the Immortals organisation, winning is just one piece of a much more important and broader puzzle.

"It is less about the end result and it is more about the process, the inputs that go into winning: the hard work, the dedication, the sacrifice and the discipline that create champions, not the championship itself.

"Unfortunately, this difference in philosophy is largely unresolvable. Players with skill, ingame communication and great tactical play are fantastic, but having all of those things does not make you a professional player. It just makes you a talented player."

Mr. Whinston lauded the remaining team members, Ricardo "boltz" Prass and Lucas "steel" Lopes, whom he described as the "pinnacle of professional players", and added that Immortals are "looking forward to rebuilding" the team around them - even if at the cost of a Major spot as they have been left with just 2/5 of the lineup that placed second at PGL Major Krakow.

"Playing at a Major is not worth more than everything we stand for as an organisation, and we cannot let ourselves be held hostage by players who just are not aligned with our goals as a team, simply in pursuit of having an auto-qualification," the Immortals chief added.

"We qualified for a Major the hard way once. And, if we build our team right, we will do it again."

The Immortals CEO also commented on the events that transpired on the final day of DreamHack Montreal and revealed the punishment that was given to the three players who arrived late to the final and caused the team to forfeit a map.

HEN1, LUCAS1 and kNgV- have all been fined a month's salary by Immortals and lose the right to their share of the $20,000 that Immortals won from placing second at DreamHack Montreal. That raised sum, combined with the North American organisation's 10% cut of the prize money, will be donated to the Big Brothers Big Sisters of Greater Montreal charity.

"Ultimately, the reason why they were late does not really matter," he noted. "At the end of the day, tardiness is tardiness, and, personally, it does not matter to me whether they were out partying or they were jet lagged and overslept.

"They were late to the final, we had to forfeit a map, and that created not just a negative image for the players and for the organisation, but a negative experience for the fans who had spent their time and money to attend that match, expecting to see a full best-of-three."

Immortals' roster currently looks as follows:

Brazil Lucas "steel" Lopes
Brazil Ricardo "boltz" Prass
Brazil João "horvy" Horvath (awaiting visa clearance) 

Brazil Rafael "zakk" Fernandes (coach)

Brazil Lincoln "fnx" Lau (benched)
Brazil Lucas "LUCAS1" Teles (benched)
Brazil Henrique "HEN1" Teles (benched)

Immortals' roster currently looks as follows:
Brazil João "horvy" Horvath (awaiting visa clearance)

Canada Pujan 'FNS' Mehta
Pujan 'FNS' Mehta
Age:
25
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.91
Maps played:
595
KPR:
0.63
DPR:
0.69
APR:
0.15
Brazil João 'horvy' Horvath
João 'horvy' Horvath
Age:
19
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.01
Maps played:
64
KPR:
0.68
DPR:
0.66
APR:
0.11
Brazil Henrique 'HEN1' Teles
Henrique 'HEN1' Teles
Age:
22
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.14
Maps played:
496
KPR:
0.73
DPR:
0.57
APR:
0.12
Brazil Lucas 'steel' Lopes
Lucas 'steel' Lopes
Age:
23
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.00
Maps played:
513
KPR:
0.67
DPR:
0.65
APR:
0.13
Brazil Lucas 'LUCAS1' Teles
Lucas 'LUCAS1' Teles
Age:
22
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.01
Maps played:
493
KPR:
0.68
DPR:
0.66
APR:
0.16
Brazil Ricardo 'boltz' Prass
Ricardo 'boltz' Prass
Age:
20
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.08
Maps played:
650
KPR:
0.73
DPR:
0.64
APR:
0.18
Brazil Rafael 'zakk' Fernandes
Rafael 'zakk' Fernandes
Age:
-
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
0.79
Maps played:
80
KPR:
0.53
DPR:
0.70
APR:
0.13
Brazil Vito 'kNgV-' Giuseppe
Vito 'kNgV-' Giuseppe
Age:
22
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.19
Maps played:
227
KPR:
0.82
DPR:
0.66
APR:
0.11
Brazil Lincoln 'fnx' Lau
Lincoln 'fnx' Lau
Age:
27
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.07
Maps played:
412
KPR:
0.73
DPR:
0.66
APR:
0.17
Vito is a good guy, humble, just wanted to kill FNS on a bad day, we must understand it.
2017-09-22 21:15
#10
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Germany GeoRg___J 
no kng destroyed the org with his stupid childish actions.
2017-09-22 21:15
destroyed the org?? at max he destroyed his best opportuniy till now and only their CS Squad which should be like 10% of IMT revenues. For them its easier to get back on track than it is to kNg.
2017-09-22 21:27
#369
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Argentina [Darkaren] 
Yep, true, respect for IMT CEO to know how to handle the situation and to not put money of stickers over what they stand for. And ofc, showing the e-sport world that players don't have control of everything and they can't do whatever they want without any responsibility. #MadRespectForImmortalsCEO
2017-09-22 22:43
#400
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North America Oboe 
+100
2017-09-22 23:12
#435
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Canada Manikhat18 
-100
2017-09-22 23:51
#465
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Brazil TonimSan 
= 0
2017-09-23 01:00
#508
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Canada Manikhat18 
no opinion
2017-09-23 03:56
#563
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Finland ingg 
Lucas "steel" Lopes (benched) Ricardo "boltz" Prass (benched) João "horvy" Horvath (benched) Rafael "zakk" Fernandes (benched) Lincoln "fnx" Lau (benched) Lucas "LUCAS1" Teles (benched) Henrique "HEN1" Teles (benched)
2017-09-23 19:51
#469
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Germany sleezy 
Agreed
2017-09-23 01:17
Agreed, he is way to unprofessional, just a little jerk that has no real future on anything serious. Will end up making small money at the small leagues.
2017-09-22 21:30
McDonald's?
2017-09-22 21:54
McDonald's Major
2017-09-22 22:17
+1
2017-09-22 23:04
cocaine destroyed org
2017-09-22 23:43
#11
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Brazil Mirekz 
lets see why the fuck does the camera keep changin angles i'm gettin triggered
2017-09-22 21:18
#49
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United States Ironwolf21 
Dazed, AZK and Swag entering with Boltzz and Steel.
2017-09-22 21:22
#52
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Brazil Mirekz 
never gonna happen Noah said that he want to rebuild the team and qualify for the next major the hard way, with daze azk and swag on the roster they would never be able to play a major.
2017-09-22 21:23
Never gonna happen those 3 wont downgrade to play with boltz and steel.
2017-09-23 01:14
#468
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Brazil Mirekz 
downgrade? nobody will ever want to have the throwers on their team because that means no major and no valve sponsored events the only way that Dazed and CO will ever be relevant again is if valve unban them but never gonna happen
2017-09-23 01:16
Easy to say that when you know they won't downgrade to play with those 2 shitters. Lol BR logic
2017-09-23 01:19
#471
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Brazil Mirekz 
dude do you really think that Steel and Boltz would want to play with 3 banned cunts? may aswell end their career than play with the throwers LMAO
2017-09-23 01:20
Its like saying CLG red won't pick them up to play with their team. They would never play with such shit players as that. Same thing here. It's easy for you to say this because we both know they have 0% of being on Immortals because they will never play with shit BR players. Plz stop acting like there is any other reason lol.
2017-09-23 01:22
#474
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Brazil Mirekz 
your baits are not even funny, if valve told DaZed,Swag and AZK that they would get unbanned if they gave Boltz and Steel blowjobs and that they had to join their team after that they would gladly do it.
2017-09-23 01:27
You are delusional I can't talk to you anymore. If bolts and steel could play csgo at a decent level they would love to play with dazed because they know they'll never as much as him. Luckily they know they aren't fit to carry his mousepad so they stay where they belong playing with the next 3 players they drum out of the favela. KNG was stand up guy, can't wait to see who they pick next!
2017-09-23 01:35
#478
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Brazil Mirekz 
isn't that sad that KNG being in the scene for 2 months achieved more than Swag,Dazed,AZK and Steel in their entire CSGO career LUL
2017-09-23 01:37
Only because they were banned when scene was small. All of them are miles ahead of KNG, that guy won't ever leave BR again lol
2017-09-23 01:38
#483
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Brazil Mirekz 
dude you realize that KNG,Lucas and Hen1 hold a major legend spot right? so i'm pretty sure that they will be back to NA pretty soon.
2017-09-23 01:43
Are they? I did not read the rules in details but Im convinced that place belongs to organization under condition that not more than two players are changed. Then the SK players change organization spots were not automatically transfer to SK or were they?
2017-09-23 17:17
#561
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Brazil Mirekz 
no, spot at majors belong do the majority of players, you mentioned SK but SK happened at Eleague season 1 the rules were different there.
2017-09-23 18:11
Anyways tired of trolling you today. You can stop spam refreshing and hanging on my every word kid. Go outside. Wait no you are from BR stay in where it's safe and talk to ppl online never mind. I'm out
2017-09-23 01:39
#482
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Brazil Mirekz 
trolling me? are you sure about that m8, btw the only reason why i'm wasting time with you is because i'm waiting for the NiP vs C9 game to start.
2017-09-23 01:42
You got wrecked and trolled so hard. Still here taking the bait haha. God I'm too good
2017-09-23 01:48
#487
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Brazil Mirekz 
i knew that it was a bait i just felt like talking shit about dazed and co to try and trigger some rednecks
2017-09-23 01:49
I love how you're trying to play it off now that I told you I'm baiting and wrecking you lol. Jesus you're dumb
2017-09-23 02:07
#489
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Brazil Mirekz 
actually i called you out for baiting like 10 comments ago "#474 your baits are not even funny"
2017-09-23 02:09
Still trying to act cool i see. lol
2017-09-23 02:36
#497
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Brazil Mirekz 
stop replying to me you little cunt
2017-09-23 02:38
Kids getting so mad cuz getting rekt and baited
2017-09-23 04:20
#566
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Denmark Phoey 
Right now they play with dapr and pollo, lmfao... Thats how fucking low they'll go.. Specially Pollo. Any MM player above LE could step into his shoes.
2017-09-23 20:23
botz and steel are 1000000x better, i was just being annoying :D I hope Boltz and Steel get a good team actually, as they have been model professionals, something Dazed and co. could learn a lot from. If IBP had half the character of these 2 BR players NA cs may have had a chance :( with that said i will now return to full troll mode as saying something nice about BR is making me twitch
2017-09-23 22:07
0/8
2017-09-22 21:27
#562
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Ukraine magdalena95 
Tupoy shkolnik
2017-09-23 18:50
-1
2017-09-22 21:30
I played sports until I was 28 years old and never showed up drunk or hung over. I understand they are very young and have a bunch of money now but they might have fucked up their life.
2017-09-22 21:31
why? this new team will be 3x better than shitortals and if they get decent igl then they can do some damage to sk
2017-09-22 22:12
#438
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Canada Manikhat18 
lol sk
2017-09-22 23:52
#498
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Brazil Dynamo_ 
But they wasn't drunk or hung over, did u see the news from kng?
2017-09-23 02:39
Future toilet cleaners or gangsters.
2017-09-22 21:31
They just don't understand what jobs are. They are paid by the org to do their job and they said fuck it. I'm going to get drunk and sleep in. Your fired mother fuckers!
2017-09-22 21:34
#231
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United States donaldjae 
D E L U S I O N A L E L U S I O N A L
2017-09-22 21:48
What a bad CEO. He want to use this video to make more money on YouTube.
2017-09-22 21:54
#440
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Canada Manikhat18 
What a bad CEO. He want to use this video to make more money on YouTube.
2017-09-22 23:52
What a bad CEO. He want to use this video to make more money on YouTube.
2017-09-22 21:54
What a bad CEO. He want to use this video to make more money on YouTube.
2017-09-22 21:54
you only have to post 1 time
2017-09-22 22:09
He did. Look it up, all of them(the 3 comments) are #257
2017-09-22 22:25
#441
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Canada Manikhat18 
What a bad CEO. He want to use this video to make more money on YouTube.
2017-09-22 23:53
#570
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Denmark reteplimy 
You'll prove it or....
2017-09-23 22:26
#572
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Canada Manikhat18 
what
2017-09-23 23:43
#574
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Denmark reteplimy 
I'll kill you ? ( I will never kill anyone its a joke dont ban me pls im friendly)
2017-09-24 17:51
#575
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Canada Manikhat18 
sorry banned
2017-09-24 18:28
#576
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Denmark reteplimy 
dont kill me pls ? I can prove it
2017-09-24 19:28
#296
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Lithuania WoozyXD 
+1 XD
2017-09-22 22:05
0/8
2017-09-22 22:09
hahahaha
2017-09-22 22:50
#418
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Brazil Jack3D_br 
I with Vito, but as a CEO Noah is totally right!
2017-09-22 23:34
#460
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Croatia strazarNTC 
Why are so many Brazillians so biased?
2017-09-23 00:25
#496
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India rohansamal 
I think Noah Winston jumped the gun here. Yes, the players were unprofessional and stuff. But I don't think removing them from the team is the correct decision
2017-09-23 02:37
#523
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Singapore Nephalith 
It is less than ideal situation for the CS division, but nevertheless it is the best decision for the organization. Orgs should never tolerate this kind of nonsense, much less being taken hostage by the players (HEN1 and Lucas refusing to play unless kNg is in the starting roster). Overall, I think Noah did everything right diffusing the situation and to preserve the good name of the brand.
2017-09-23 08:59
they choose to be benched,not noah decision.
2017-09-23 15:28
Discipline, Sportsmanship > Results
2017-09-23 07:08
MEGALUL
2017-09-23 12:55
Rip one of the best teams
2017-09-22 21:12
Hardly, lucky super easy major final run, no other result worth noting ever. Just qualifies to events since playing in ez NA but usually out in groups.
2017-09-22 21:17
#43
gas | 
Montenegro Teslaa 
everyone always talks about easy major runs but is it really easy if you're playing at a major?
2017-09-22 21:21
I'm not saying Imt is bad, I like them a lot. But imo they had the EASIEST major run EVER.
2017-09-22 21:24
#124
gas | 
Montenegro Teslaa 
never said it wasn't easy but put you an 4 of the best players you play with, against any of the those teams & let me know how you go
2017-09-22 21:35
Me Coldzera Niko KennyS Rain I can easy igl this team to major finals, if karrigan can, i sure can too
2017-09-22 21:35
like you was playing cs since 1.6 and won the whole thing against the best players in the world at that time, while being a fucking headshot machine and rekting everyone. Sure you can compare yourself to karrigan...
2017-09-22 21:44
I was just kidding holy fuck. Obviously I wouldn't do shit because I'm shit compared to pros but he kind of missed my actual argument which was: Immortals had the easiest major final run EVER, you can compare every finalist of every major and you will see they all had a 20x harder time. Imt only beat VP BIG NaVi Vega and who the fuck else? Flipside? Penta?
2017-09-22 21:51
at that point youre totally right, they could have won, but they choked on inferno. Never will happen again
2017-09-22 21:54
#301
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Norway throatslit 
they would never face such easy opponents again in a major tho
2017-09-22 22:07
yes, groups without bo3 made the major totally trash
2017-09-22 22:17
Nvm
2017-09-22 21:57
How is that relevant to anything?
2017-09-22 23:41
#204
swag | 
North America Ares872 
Gambit Fnatic Astralis SK Which side of the bracket would you want to be on? 1 where you dont have to play SK-Astralis or Gambit or play 3 teams who weren't top 5 teams and at the time barely top 10 teams? IMT VP North Big
2017-09-22 21:42
#215
SIXER | 
Other boongp 
Lucker than Asstralis and gambit majors? Hell, no
2017-09-22 21:44
#287
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United States berserker~ 
Gambits major wasn't lucky, they went 3-0 in groups and then beat Astralis, who were the clear favorites.
2017-09-22 22:02
#300
SIXER | 
Other boongp 
Asstralis is dogshit since their last major win, surely immortals could beat them Also, at that time, big >>>> astralis
2017-09-22 22:07
#447
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Canada Manikhat18 
lul gambit lul
2017-09-22 23:55
#3
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Bosnia and Herzegovina Fackyyy 
Nubz
2017-09-22 21:12
stupid ceo tbh
2017-09-22 23:51
#4
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Europe Brian_Furious 
ggg
2017-09-22 21:12
K
2017-09-22 21:12
#6
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Europe TaliH 
LUL
2017-09-22 21:12
O_O
2017-09-22 21:12
KNG DID NOTHING WRONG!!!
2017-09-22 21:13
#17
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United States Moosk 
You prove it or I'll kill you!!
2017-09-22 21:13
#227
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United States donaldjae 
say it with me people...DELUSIONAL FANS
2017-09-22 21:47
#405
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North America Oboe 
+1
2017-09-22 23:14
0/8
2017-09-22 22:09
#402
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United States Phamous3k 
He actually did everything wrong and those twins are stupid to follow them and get benched indefinitely. Way to go guys. Cause I'm sure if a org picks up kNg and decides to buyout the twins for the major spot u probably made Immortals even more money then keeping u around. Anyways. Kids. What idiots.
2017-09-22 23:14
Fuck those twins
2017-09-22 23:40
TL;DW
2017-09-22 21:13
#67
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Finland AnZinh0 
4 mins of advertising for IMT, two minutes of old news.
2017-09-22 21:25
Prove it or...
2017-09-22 21:13
#64
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United States TheViggs 
Or... I'll shake your hand and get on with my day!
2017-09-22 21:24
:D
2017-09-22 22:09
lul
2017-09-22 21:13
#14
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Brazil tcesarsc 
GRABS POPCORN
2017-09-22 21:13
#214
fnx | 
Brazil ariel439 
GRABS POPCORN
2017-09-22 21:43
#15
FalleN | 
World Vechnyp 
lol, from finals of major to this
2017-09-22 21:13
#16
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United States gtmaniacmda 
Noah's family was killed by the Italian mafia! Tragic.
2017-09-22 21:13
RIP IMMORTALS
2017-09-22 21:14
#20
mimi | 
Afghanistan gdabony 
nice try NAVI
2017-09-22 21:16
#21
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Brazil BuddyINSANE 
Sorry brazilians, but he is totally right! Those boys did some unprofessional attitude! Good luck Immortal, u deserve better players... We smart, we loyal, we friendly, we are from BRAZIL! Kreygasm
2017-09-22 21:16
#23
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Macau SJ158 
+1 my boy buddy with the knowledge
2017-09-22 21:17
#30
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Brazil BuddyINSANE 
Thanks mate <3 I'm shame of this, those boys're trully "fanfarrões"... don't deserve good orgs like that.
2017-09-22 21:18
#32
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Macau SJ158 
they are moleques
2017-09-22 21:19
#321
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Brazil igricardf 
+1
2017-09-22 22:14
Up to now, kNg points are real. For me, it looks like the real shit were done by the twins, not by kNg. I agree he was immature to miss the final and threat CLG player, but the other things were consequences of hen1 and lucas1 acts.
2017-09-22 21:29
#237
Nodios | 
Liechtenstein diosf 
hen1 and lucas1 where the real fuckers. KnG didint know he was suspended, and the twins told he could play, ans they would not play wihtout KnG. Kng did a lot of shit, but in this case, the twins fucked all up;
2017-09-22 21:49
Cool, they are benched and locked in contract, immortals will live on without lucas and hen1, you asked me 3 years ago who Fallen is, id have said he's some shit Keyd stars player, There are more Star players to be found, steel and boltzz have recently been doing some good lifting, - hen1 + yel. But for real threatening someone then outright refusing to apologise is pretty childish. Kng isn't some little kid, he's a fully grown man, if he has been told that he's suspended from playing then he should know not to play. Simple as, he fucked up a total of 3 times (missing final, twitter, playing while suspended) in the space of a week thats so stupid.
2017-09-23 00:18
#466
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Brazil TonimSan 
Steel, boltz, and yel is a good starting point, since they Still have the two that can IGL.
2017-09-23 01:07
how can they be the real shit when he was the one who threatened to kill someone and tried to take action on that? lol
2017-09-22 22:35
Well, you shouldn't take his threat seriously. Of course, he was real dumb to do so, but I don't think anyone really believes he intended to do it.
2017-09-25 13:12
wow usually u really annoy me but +1 for u today buddy. +1
2017-09-22 21:21
#88
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Brazil URAKINBR 
+1
2017-09-22 21:28
+1
2017-09-22 21:28
#103
fnx | 
Brazil DroidNTC 
+1 buddy the legend
2017-09-22 21:29
#115
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Brazil kLango 
+1 Sad for boltz and steel
2017-09-22 21:30
#129
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Denmark Xipingu 
+1 for having a brain, brains are always rewarded
2017-09-22 21:32
+1
2017-09-22 21:36
#181
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Brazil tails36 
+1 my friend
2017-09-22 21:39
it was the same with dembele in dortmund players think they can do what they want like with the org/club >>>> over everything else and i would do the same as the owner iam sure steel and boltz will find a couple of players to create a new decent team they deserve it
2017-09-22 22:32
+1
2017-09-22 23:38
#22
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Germany cief 
rip
2017-09-22 21:16
#26
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Argentina alnne23 
nice my sticker the immortal is going to go up in price
2017-09-22 21:17
+ fnx + elige
2017-09-22 21:17
Why would Elige quit Liquid to join some drunk guys?
2017-09-22 21:33
lol +1
2017-09-22 21:40
The drunk guys are gone tho
2017-09-22 21:52
Welp they are gods
2017-09-22 22:07
#28
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Germany sunnyrain 
good video
2017-09-22 21:17
#31
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United States f00bar 
I understand the call for "muh morals" and values in the scene, but at the end of the day all that gets you is a lesser team and no major spot. A lot of the time, sticking to "professionalism" yields failure.
2017-09-22 21:19
#61
tabseN | 
Germany Ntasu 
I hope Valve look on this and at the end of the day they come to the conlcusion that it has to be changes. In dota a long time TI was a player invited tournament. But after the problem with era (he had a journey sickness) they changed....it isnt only a player invited tournament. And i dont understand why valve dont react at this time?? It is okay that players have this spot to get a better a contract or something but to abuse this part to be destroy their own clan?? it should be canceled....and Immortal should own this spot
2017-09-22 21:24
#131
mimi | 
Brazil L4x @.@ 
valve doesnt give a shit about csgo not going to happen
2017-09-22 21:32
#143
tabseN | 
Germany Ntasu 
I know valve look more about dota because their lay the money but they knew the scene. After the ERA problem they changed their mind. Maybe they do it now to who knows.
2017-09-22 21:33
Players earned the spot not the org or anyone else will be their argument
2017-09-22 21:36
#175
tabseN | 
Germany Ntasu 
what is with the other 2 players?? should they lose their spot because 3 dicks fooling around?? i dont think so
2017-09-22 21:38
Absolutely because they are not the majority of the team. And unless IMT goes outside Brazil for their players, there team won't be good enough for a major imo. And everyone is basing this off of KNG actions which were horrible and immature, but why didn't the CEO contact the player directly? Why didn't the staff of IMT contact him directly? Where was the communication? It was like dropping your gf over a tweet
2017-09-22 21:52
#269
tabseN | 
Germany Ntasu 
they called him he didnt answer and he doesnt try to re contact...if my boss calls me i am call him back.... that is normal so immortal have to assumption that he doesnt want to call back. especially before u try to "work for ur boss again...
2017-09-22 21:57
If you want esports to be taken seriously you have to build its reputation. Can you imagine Messi being late for the half of the match?
2017-09-22 21:34
Murican so replace Messi with Brady
2017-09-23 05:04
Immortals is a team built on Venture Capital. If they keep the players, they might take a hit to their rep and receive less sponsorship. CS isn't the org's main focus; the Brazilian team is mostly for brand awareness when compared to the other teams, so I think it's probably a smart move to ditch KNG, Hen1 and Lucas1.
2017-09-22 22:58
such a beta male, good luck finding another good line up.RIP IMMT
2017-09-22 21:19
#112
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Brazil IguiN 
Beta? You're dumb af
2017-09-22 21:30
takes a beta to know a beta
2017-09-22 21:39
#225
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United States f00bar 
quiet gamma male
2017-09-22 21:47
nt x-ray
2017-09-22 21:49
kng retard brain
2017-09-22 21:19
#36
NiKo | 
Austria Phil_1337 
Great speak by Noah
2017-09-22 21:20
#37
United Kingdom kp` 
sounds reasonable tbh
2017-09-22 21:20
#38
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Poland kurwafa 
favelitos sending death threats to god noah
2017-09-22 21:20
#39
tabseN | 
Germany Ntasu 
Immortal has my full respect. This Kids should be delete from the CSGO existenz. By all the talent they have... ony people deserve it who kmows what luck they have
2017-09-22 21:20
#63
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Brazil Danxd22 
Everyone needs a second chance, man. Maybe this situation will help they to not do these things again.
2017-09-22 21:24
#105
tabseN | 
Germany Ntasu 
KNG had his second chance already. He ignored a clear forbade to play. This guy doesnt deserve a second chance. About the twins it is another story but if they doesnt change their mind they dont deserve a second chance. Immortal gave them a place to grow to learn to play CSGO and get a salery and price mones and they signed a contract...if they try to refuse this they dont deserve a second chance. SK as example this players had also an awful past and it wasnt correct how they left but they didnt signe a new contract... they knew they leave.... That is a huge differents.
2017-09-22 21:29
Well you should get a 2nd chance if you at least apologize for it.
2017-09-22 21:30
if u listen the video he had a second chance.
2017-09-22 21:31
After 2 years they can get a second chance just like the throwers otherwise not. I srsly hope that nobody will buy them out of their contracts and IMT will still bench them for like 1 year so they waste 1 year from their carrier and their life,they would fully deserve that
2017-09-22 22:31
#152
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Brazil Danxd22 
You guys are right. If KnG don't change his behavior bb for his career.
2017-09-22 21:35
#172
tabseN | 
Germany Ntasu 
for me i hope his career is over but many players even cheater and matchfixer get a second chance (not by Valve but by ESL and co). So no one knows what happen but the clan who pick him up have a huge image problem
2017-09-22 21:37
fucking alpha
2017-09-22 21:21
Expected childish behaviour from "people" of their origin
2017-09-22 21:21
#86
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United States f00bar 
my man, is sweden saveable?
2017-09-22 21:28
No, we have to many of these childish people over here murdering each other and burning cars
2017-09-22 21:29
lmao @ brazilian retards sending death threats to ceo
2017-09-22 21:21
wht a shame, acting like KngV itself
2017-09-22 21:22
#68
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Sweden 4Sweeeden 
+1
2017-09-22 21:25
"Words, words, words".
2017-09-22 21:21
#46
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Albania Olrige 
his face is very punchable
2017-09-22 21:21
Expected, KngV nevermore
2017-09-22 21:21
#48
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Norway deepZ82 
OK, so what he says is all well and good, on paper, but this guy is the prime example on a beta, and by the look of him, you dont want to end up in his basement ;)
2017-09-22 21:22
beta would be keeping these retard monkeys and leting them run his organisation. The alpha thing to do would be kicking those faggot cunts out the window, which is what he did.
2017-09-22 21:33
Not sure how this is alpha male. He didn't even tell the player to his face lol. It was like breaking up with your gf through text. PUSSY
2017-09-22 21:41
maybe cus he has a big fucking company to run from the states and these monkeys are moving around 24/7? You think bill gates would face 2 face some lowtier toiletcleaner if that person were to get fired?
2017-09-22 21:44
And that's why there is structure :) He told the coach lol. Coaches aren't even in charge of these teams...
2017-09-22 21:54
maybe because kng couldn't even get a visa lol hard to talk to someone face to face when they aren't allowed in the country
2017-09-22 23:50
#254
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Argentina ClairvYnt 
Totally agree... He clearly didn't understand the concept of alpha male.
2017-09-22 21:53
you must be a special kind of retard to not know the concept of Alpha and Beta
2017-09-22 22:38
wtf are you talking? "alpha" and "beta", are you animals? If you think being dominant above others is something quite exceptional and to be proud of as humans, you're a piece of garbage.
2017-09-22 22:58
Wtf is this kid 12?
2017-09-22 21:22
#53
mixwell | 
Spain fu0cco 
kng=douchebag he deserves his kick from the team rofl
2017-09-22 21:23
#54
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Armenia cGev 
Respect for Hen1 and Lucas1, they should just move their five to another organization, after all, organization doesn't make the team, players make the team.
2017-09-22 21:23
fuck lucas hen1 kng and fnx , toxic retarded kids steel boltz + 3
2017-09-22 21:23
#62
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Sweden 4Sweeeden 
+1 Imo yeL and maybe Cogu should get a chance, atleast yeL.
2017-09-22 21:24
#192
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Brazil tails36 
cogu is a legend but nowadays he is pretty much even
2017-09-22 21:41
#210
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Sweden 4Sweeeden 
Well i know, but if they cant find any good players then just bring in Cogu as a player for a few months until they can get a new player. yeL should take over Hen1s AWP spot imo.
2017-09-22 21:43
Cogu awper yel awper ???
2017-09-22 23:10
#409
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Sweden 4Sweeeden 
Cogu can do other stuff as well, and as i said Cogu wont be in lineup forever, only until they find a new player. But yeL main AWPer ofc :)
2017-09-22 23:20
they already have that horvy guy I guess he will be on the new team
2017-09-22 21:27
+1
2017-09-22 21:38
#56
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Turkey solfex 
Very clear and good explanation
2017-09-22 21:24
#57
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Sweden 4Sweeeden 
GJ Noah! Hen1 Lucas and KNG are idiots. Hopefully Immortals bring in yeL, Cogu and one more. Also, f*ck those idiots that send Noah death threats.
2017-09-22 21:24
philosophy hypocrite. you can almost smell his fake ass.
2017-09-22 21:24
#59
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Italy marxie 
Really hope that immortals fails hard and this guy loses all of his money
2017-09-22 21:24
#65
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Sweden 4Sweeeden 
Why is that? He did a good job? lol. You are probably one of those idiots that send Noah death threats lol.
2017-09-22 21:25
yeah idk people are butthurt, he is sticking up for his org and doing what he thinks is right professionally. stupid kids are butthurt their retard idols can't behave.
2017-09-22 21:26
#74
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Sweden 4Sweeeden 
+1 Noah did a good job benching Hen1 and Lucas and fire KNG. Hopefully some loyal and good players like yeL joins the team
2017-09-22 21:27
#186
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Italy marxie 
i dont really care about that guy but he just destroyed a potential top team #kngdidnothingwrong
2017-09-22 21:39
#201
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Sweden 4Sweeeden 
He? Are you kidding me? It was KNGs fault, he doesnt know how to handle a situation and tweeted some fucked up shit. Then Hen1 and Lucas1 became cucks and white knighted KNG. Fuck them all, suspend them and hope that no one wants to buy them out of contract so they rot on the bench.
2017-09-22 21:41
#221
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Italy marxie 
you say to me that u wouldn't be upset if someone spread lies about you?
2017-09-22 21:46
>Being this delusional.
2017-09-22 23:20
yeah I would be upset but I also wouldn't be coward enough to have to threaten violence because someone said mean words about me
2017-09-22 23:51
#449
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United States Phamous3k 
What lies? Just say "Hey, I believe kNg and think everyone else is bullshit". Cause at the end of the day creating a strong brand and stability is more important then winning a championship.
2017-09-22 23:55
just a 12 year old comment passing by
2017-09-22 22:22
+1
2017-09-22 21:32
#69
TACO | 
Brazil tenL 
The error was from both parties, first with the players, then the organization immortals wandering for lack of communication and leadership.
2017-09-22 21:25
Here is a smart person...communication was horrible for being so professional
2017-09-22 21:43
completely agreed. communication seemed to be terrible.
2017-09-22 22:28
Yeah, no You don't threaten to kill someone and try to take action with no consequence. deserved kick to the retard sad for Steel and boltz
2017-09-22 22:40
"lack of communication" >org tries to contact kng >kng doesn't respond >org tells the team he isn't allowed to play >the team doesn't listen and kng plays anyways I don't think it's a lack of communication as much as it is just a lack of listening.
2017-09-22 23:55
favela monkeys have to tame
2017-09-22 21:26
#79
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Sweden 4Sweeeden 
Ehrm static.hltv.org/images/bigflags/30x20/TR.. Who are you calling monkey Hassan?
2017-09-22 21:27
rly sweedistan
2017-09-22 21:59
#290
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Sweden 4Sweeeden 
Yes Hassan. You shouldnt call anyone monkey when your arms are hairy AF.
2017-09-22 22:03
theyre definently monkey and you are probably uneducated
2017-09-22 22:32
#357
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Sweden 4Sweeeden 
Same as you then.
2017-09-22 22:33
Not sure why there’re still ppl supporting kNg and laughing at this guy for “losing his team over a tweet.” How ‘bout the real idiot in this shitshow ruined his own career with that tweet? And unlike an org, a player can’t just buy some new players and get a new lineup if his name has gone down the toilet?
2017-09-22 21:26
+1 CEO is right 100%
2017-09-22 21:27
#82
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Sweden 4Sweeeden 
+1
2017-09-22 21:27
Given the current CS:GO landscape, I'd be shocked if the twins are broken out of contract purgatory until at least the end of the year. ... Although, people have more dollars than sense it seems. Boltz would make *any* North American team better. Shame that he and Steel are going to be stuck in roster uncertainty for the foreseeable future. Edit: hen1, lucas1, kng, and fnx. Somebody call up a Mexican drug cartel and ask if they'd be interested in sponsoring a CS:GO team.
2017-09-22 21:30
#199
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Macau SJ158 
Some rumours that Neymar is willing to put money in csgo, and he is good friends with fnx... so there you go.
2017-09-22 21:41
Qatari Petro dollars > Mexican drug money. It's not a matter of "if" they will get bought out, but when.
2017-09-22 21:52
>ruined career >auto qualification for next major with hen1 and lucas pick one
2017-09-22 22:29
Anybody who thought KNG or the twins ruined their career hasn't followed esports... or sports in general. Unless this somehow affects kng's visa application, which it probably won't, they'll probably find themselves the recipient of a pay raise.
2017-09-22 22:39
Smart CEO, unprofessionals should be kicked, despite the results...
2017-09-22 21:27
#98
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Slovakia cheatersw0w 
this
2017-09-22 21:29
respect to ceo for putting morality over money (majors and the stickers that come with it)
2017-09-22 21:27
bfb
2017-09-22 21:27
#84
mimi | 
Brazil L4x @.@ 
gl on the next major qualify hahahahahahahah imt stickers coming in 2020 boys
2017-09-22 21:27
"Playing at a Major is not worth more than everything we stand for as an organisation"
2017-09-22 21:33
#141
mimi | 
Brazil L4x @.@ 
he will be happy af playing tier 2 tournaments
2017-09-22 21:33
hes a CEO. he doesnt give a fuck about winning tournaments, its not the main source of his income, and csgo isnt even what he invests in the most. kng on the other hand lmao good luck to that cunt
2017-09-22 21:34
#153
mimi | 
Brazil L4x @.@ 
he doesnt give a fuck about winning tournaments but he needs hisin the events for sponsors and visibility
2017-09-22 21:40
translate to english please
2017-09-22 21:36
#368
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Portugal sarkQ 
Error 404: English not found
2017-09-22 22:42
ask kNG and other 2 shitter why they were late then
2017-09-22 21:37
#176
mimi | 
Brazil L4x @.@ 
i dont give a shit about kng,lucas1,hen1 i just saying the immortals are fcked to rebuild the roster
2017-09-22 21:38
#338
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Portugal Jaaaaah! 
if you know anything ... the IMT team become a LOL worlds team wons more sponsors and money than a MAJOR in csgo just that ... and LCS has more money put too ... so Noah dont give a fuck to CSGO ... like valve ... valve wants DOTA 2 big tournments cause have more income too
2017-09-22 22:23
#340
mimi | 
Brazil L4x @.@ 
i didnt knew imt were so big outside csgo hm,thats explain alot
2017-09-22 22:24
#344
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Portugal Jaaaaah! 
IMT is mainly a lol team , and are in the worlds that starts tommorow and they have one of the best lol players in the world Olleh , they are just too confortable league team change gaming house mouth by mouth to a better one ... lol has a lot more money put than csgo LIKE MERCEDES BENZ his the main sponsor to the worlds ...
2017-09-22 22:26
#381
mimi | 
Brazil L4x @.@ 
i know Olleh from pain gaming didnt knew he play for imt now
2017-09-22 22:54
#85
HObbit | 
Spain Alser 
Good response
2017-09-22 21:28
#87
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Thailand Bent0 
holy shit, i became immortal fan after this video. This org is legit and hen1 lucas and kng are acting unprofessional outside the game
2017-09-22 21:28
+1
2017-09-22 21:28
nice, might as well give cogu and horvy a try since cogu worked decently well with IMT :p :)
2017-09-22 21:28
Big respect and greetings from Ukraine to Immortals CEO. You made everything as it should be.
2017-09-22 21:28
#94
FalleN | 
Brazil Feio91 
kng was wrong... but noah too. vitimism sux.
2017-09-22 21:28
Respect to Noah Whinston.
2017-09-22 21:29
Wow Lucas1, Hen1 and Kng are such crybabies, why the fuck can they not just be a little professional and accept that Kng got suspended and deserved the suspension, ofc they have to be bitches about it and just go completely against the org and then cry about him getting kicked. Didnt have anything against them before, but this is stupid imo. Good luck to Boltz and Steel, they seem like nice guys and deserve to play with some professional players.
2017-09-22 21:29
+1
2017-09-22 21:46
#RespectImmortalsCEO
2017-09-22 21:29
#101
NEO | 
China uppermost 
Respect to Immortals, hope them build a successful team
2017-09-22 21:29
Blah blah blah moral standarts more important than winning blah blah blah he did not obey our orders blah blah blah 'unfortunatly' valve does want orgs(who only thinks of money) to have more power than the one who actually made cs scene(players) blah blah blah discipline blah blah blah What a hypocrite piece of shit!
2017-09-22 21:29
mad favela detected, in fact even you can understand that CEO is 100% right here
2017-09-22 21:30
#133
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Brazil IguiN 
This is Brazil, people have zero moral integrity.
2017-09-22 21:32
>Moral integrity on a game Kkkk
2017-09-22 21:36
Moral integrity over wasting people's time and money? Yes, my favela.
2017-09-22 23:07
> threaten to kill someone cause of a game kkkkk
2017-09-22 23:12
0/8
2017-09-22 21:31
do you even understand what the word "hypocrite" means...
2017-09-22 21:31
Yes
2017-09-22 21:35
clearly not. hes not a hypocrite in any way
2017-09-22 21:35
Ok, i dont give a fuck
2017-09-22 21:37
then don't write useless comments.
2017-09-22 21:37
Hahah stfu kid
2017-09-22 21:39
Nice intellectual argument. Let me guess, you had no access to secondary education? what a sad life.
2017-09-22 21:41
You did nothing wrong Noah! Huge respect for this philosophy.
2017-09-22 21:30
Thanks for clarify Mr. Whinston.
2017-09-22 21:30
Kng is the REAL PROBLEM of world.
2017-09-22 21:30
I hope the 3 pieces of trash learn their lesson and they never get a proper chance at the pro scene ever again, they don't deserve it.
2017-09-22 21:30
+1
2017-09-22 21:31
lul you mean they have auto qualification for next major
2017-09-22 22:29
respect Mr. Whinston
2017-09-22 21:31
#123
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Argentina pablinkaaa 
Fuckin clover rojo
2017-09-22 21:31
#126
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Armenia Imissexoptic 
i said way way back ago kng will going to ruin this team but boy.. no1 listened
2017-09-22 21:31
gl imortals
2017-09-22 21:31
#130
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Turkey Achuso 
Holy fuck, the CEO has a brain! I always hated the previous lineup, I hope they can make a successfully functioning roster. <3
2017-09-22 21:32
#132
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United States Ch1lled_Pyro 
Well played Noah, this is very professional and true. I truly wish the best for Immortals in the future.
2017-09-22 21:32
Noah Whinston is right in this situation. Big respect to you. As a CEO you did EVERYTHING right.
2017-09-22 21:33
we'll never hear about the IMT org in the major again :] good.
2017-09-22 21:33
who cares, when they can't respect CYBERSPORT and FANBASE and other PLAYERS. they have no respect for themselves also when they act like that.
2017-09-22 21:34
ohhhhh grow a pair. it's video games. you act like they're electing the pope. lmao. late 5 minutes for LAN match = no respect lynch them!!! angry tweets = no respekkkk lynch them!!! wanted to fight (but didn't) = omg no respekkkkkk lynch them!!! overblown fuss by cucks who just want to cause trouble for brazilians cuz they're intimidated by them.
2017-09-22 21:48
this is not just a VIDEO GAME nowadays... community, money, big tournaments... this is sport. and in sport you must have respect and you cannot act like those brazilian players.
2017-09-22 22:06
it's just a video game, they can put as much money as they like it is just a lowbrow amusement. this is an entertainment business. mayweather and mcgregor do not need to act like cucks to succeed. it's about talent and personality, not acting the biggest cuck. poor cucky noah just lives off reddit approval. he doesn't realise no one will care about IMT when they can only hire a tier 5 team to replace kNgV, HEN1 and LUCAS1. self-rekt.
2017-09-22 22:23
Kid spotted
2017-09-22 23:14
... And Mayweather and McGregor doesn't act like the biggest cucks the world has ever seen? Lol.
2017-09-22 23:37
When you threaten to kill someone and try to take action on it it's not longer in the game Jesus man, how retarded are you that you can't think of that by yourself?
2017-09-22 23:19
playground crap. you're probably a too sheltered to understand that tho. keep letting other people think for you!
2017-09-22 23:21
#140
FalleN | 
Brazil Feio91 
repeat: Kng was wrong... but noah was wrong too.
2017-09-22 21:33
RESPECT TO YOU, MR. WHINSTON!
2017-09-22 21:35
Funny how some delusional brazillians are still trying to defend kNg and are even sending death threats to Immortals. No major in brazil please.
2017-09-22 21:35
+1 it's pathetic how they defend their countrymen despite EVERYTHING.
2017-09-22 21:36
GG, alcoholic scumbags.
2017-09-22 21:55
#respect_Mr.Whinston
2017-09-22 21:35
I would keep those retards under contract for as long as possible without pay.
2017-09-22 21:36
+1 LUL
2017-09-22 21:36
+1, This is what happens when you recruit people from country where average IQ is 87, they are obviously not capable of thinking about something bigger than their own ego and needs, to be honest people like them are reason why brazil is such a big holeshit as it is right now
2017-09-22 21:41
Favelitos thought that they are though guys and Mr.Ceo fired them to show them the real boss. lul +respect Noah
2017-09-22 21:37
gained so much respect for ceo of immortals after watching the video. So fucking professional, kudos to him!
2017-09-22 21:37
such useless drama
2017-09-22 21:37
Nu-beta-male talk
2017-09-22 21:38
+1
2017-09-22 21:39
Must suck for your idols then to be told to sit the fuck down by a beta haha (all this alpha and beta talk is just pure bs btw). If anything your beloved players are the betas. Lmao
2017-09-22 21:51
I can respecc that unfortunately brazils lost a team
2017-09-22 21:39
CEO did nothing wrong. He is acting like a true CEO. Those disrespectful must be punished in a hardest way after these vagaries.
2017-09-22 21:39
#200
FalleN | 
Brazil Feio91 
Sure, without communication and acting like a retard. nice CEO.
2017-09-22 21:41
lol you think that is enough to make up for threatening to kill a person? and tried to actually search them down. are you that retarded?
2017-09-22 23:21
#417
FalleN | 
Brazil Feio91 
i said kng was wrong too... you are.
2017-09-22 23:24
#206
FalleN | 
Brazil Feio91 
i mean, kng didn't deserve be banned this week... he deserved be banned 2 weeks ago. nice act.
2017-09-22 21:42
#461
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Australia Raychippy5 
What is that logic
2017-09-23 00:36
#463
FalleN | 
Brazil Feio91 
the logic is: he is completly lost.
2017-09-23 00:43
It's a nice bench right there! Take kng back and make "imm bad boys roster". Be a nice NA and profit over all that misery.
2017-09-22 21:39
Unprofessionalism from players, lack of leadership and communication from the org. /Solved
2017-09-22 21:40
lack of leadership? LMAO
2017-09-22 21:41
1) CEO is 100% right 2) brazilian fanboys who are crying about "he is not right etc." are just blind patriots
2017-09-22 21:40
The only weird part is the communication with the team about kng's suspension and if they gave the twins the "a-ok" for kng to play the epicenter qualifier. Outside of that, the CEO is absolutely right and I love that these guys salaries plus prize money went for some non profit organization!
2017-09-22 21:41
#212
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Brazil tails36 
maybe steel and boltz wanted to get rid of him too so they let him play. They benched FNX for beeing "too arrogant" if I'm correct
2017-09-22 21:43
You're right maybe Zakk, boltz and steel wanted a more professional team lol You're onto something.
2017-09-22 23:45
I don't see what organizers would even want kng attending their events. I wouldn't be surprised if he gets blacklisted from tournaments for death threats alone.
2017-09-22 21:41
+1
2017-09-22 21:42
Ceo is just a pure professional thats why he is a ceo. For me they should pick mutiris and fox
2017-09-22 21:41
+1
2017-09-22 21:42
Its a real shame I think hen1 was destined for cs greatness. It'll be hard to come by an org with this image they've given themselves.
2017-09-22 21:42
Huge respect to Immortals CEO.
2017-09-22 21:42
IMT is dead. fnx, kNgV and the twins are gonna comeback with a waaaay better team. GL, gingerfuck.
2017-09-22 21:42
how can you talk shit about Noah in this case? say thanks to retarded kNg and other shitters... why you even touching ImtCEO??? unprofessionals must be kicked!
2017-09-22 21:43
Maybe gingertard should learn from C9/Freak case how to handle this kind of situation. Now he just buried Immortals. Just tell me: there are better brazilian players - skillwise - available for Mr. Winston buy? I don't think so. He benched them and fired one.
2017-09-22 21:48
this situation is much much worse than C9/freak's one.
2017-09-22 21:57
dead? they have the 2nd best league of legends team in north america and are about to play at the world championship viewd by 50 million unique viewers, they are probably the 3rd richest esport organisation in the world, 1st tsm, 2nd c9 (not counting china and korea cus thats fucked up).
2017-09-22 21:49
CSGO, m8. I don't care about LoL.
2017-09-22 21:49
point is they got money and can get any players they want to, if another brazilian team wont work out they'll just do a faze.
2017-09-22 21:49
Okay, now tell me which brazilian players are good as the trio and can be bought right now? The only other brazilian roster that succeeded was SK. Have you seen cogu playing as a stand-in? You can see there is a HUGE skill gap.
2017-09-22 21:55
read what i wrote "if another brazilian team wont work out they'll just do a faze" there might still be some decent players in the brazilian scene, I doubt many players had heard about kng for example.
2017-09-22 21:59
kNgV is a legend from 1.6 times, overlord. Look, I really hope they can find some solution ONLY BECAUSE I respect and like boltz and steel a lot. They have been struggling for a long time and didn't deserve this. They are upstanding players.
2017-09-22 22:03
so is markeloff and cogu, doesn't mean they're good now, no one expected kng to rape everyone, but he did, so maybe there's some hope out there still.
2017-09-22 22:03
Well, I follow the brazilian scene and I might be able to name a couple players, but that's all. Most of them can't compete at a higher level - even NA level.
2017-09-22 22:04
#261
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Denmark SK2Strong 
WOW, and they will use DOTA2 and LOL profit in DEAD CS:GO team? Very smart!!!?
2017-09-22 21:54
ofc, why not?
2017-09-22 21:58
No wonder you are a braindead brazilian in desguise to even argue against the CEO's decision after everything that happened. Winning just isn't everything for the orgs. They want their players to become role models for those little kids that support them. Get your shit together for once.
2017-09-22 22:26
Mind your own business and go suck ginger's cock.
2017-09-22 22:49
I LOVE NOAH!! Thanks my man!! Put those drunk fucks on their legitimate place..
2017-09-22 21:44
Respect to Mr.Whinston
2017-09-22 21:44
#219
shox | 
Finland luxu 
the right decision
2017-09-22 21:45
#220
swag | 
North America Ares872 
Glad to see. Much respect to this dude. Professional all the way. HONOR>ALL
2017-09-22 21:45
Respect @ Immortals CEO
2017-09-22 21:46
smart move by the CEO
2017-09-22 21:46
respect CEO!
2017-09-22 21:47
Very smart guy. He did absolutely right decision.
2017-09-22 21:47
#232
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Portugal TugaShare 
Respect for the Immortals CEO Good luck
2017-09-22 21:48
Gained my respect to Mr.Noah Whinston.
2017-09-22 21:48
tbh 100% good job from noah the shits deserved it
2017-09-22 21:49
+1
2017-09-22 21:59
#RESPECT_ImtCEO
2017-09-22 21:50
why ur crying? Hes right lmao, who cares about kng, and others. They will make new team. With more mature and smart people
2017-09-22 21:52
+1
2017-09-22 21:55
Can everybody just forget about this 3 clowns? Don't spam cs go news with this.
2017-09-22 21:52
respect
2017-09-22 21:52
#249
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Turkey rhonie33 
we all know they need to behave like a pro and they didnt. So they all deserved. Except boltz and steel.
2017-09-22 21:52
If he had killed the FNS, it would not have been great, since one of the best things the FNS does is die, and kNg would be considered a myth in Canada, after all it would be a favor to their homeland.
2017-09-22 21:52
it seems redheads really doesn't have souls after all
2017-09-22 21:53
noah deserves became poor, just because this interview. i indeed with almost everything that he said, but an organization survives and became gr8 only winning championship and doing good apresentations. without this, he don't have at least sponsors. he was such a hypocrit saying this.
2017-09-22 21:53
are you **tarded? is it normal to be late on the FINAL???? brazilians are blindarded with their patriotism... JESUS. THEY WERE LATE ON THE F*CKIN FINAL. HOW CAN YOU DEFEND THOSE SH**ERS???? JUST CAUSE THEY ARE BRAZILIAN?
2017-09-22 21:55
i guess the only retard here is you, cause i agreed with almost everything he did and said, i just thought he was wrong when said that an organization don't survive only with great players and winning championships and etcetera, it sounds like bla bla bla, he needs this to keep his org at the top, cmon
2017-09-22 21:57
NiP? VP?
2017-09-23 12:31
btw, he was correct when kicked kng and will be correct if kick the twins.
2017-09-22 21:56
lmao, complete opposite. IMT survives and makes $$$ cuz of investment, and u know, brainless players and dumb behavior makes the image of the brand shit, and consequently means less investment. that is, my friend, how it works.
2017-09-22 22:01
so you think that a completly loser organization could survive in the scenary ?
2017-09-22 22:03
Not necessarily, but IMT doesn't need to be a superstar team to survive. Yes they need the good results, but they also ABSOLUTELY need a good player image. Investement money is worth much more than prize money or whatever. IMT receives millions in investment, that makes prize money look like nothing. Just look at Echo Fox, they got a shit ton of investment. 6 figure level. How many times have you heard that name? enVy also just received 35mil$ in investment, and they're a shit team overall. I'm not saying being a completely loser team is a good thing, but I have faith IMT won't fall much in the future, they just need moderate results, and to make it to tournaments. That's enough ads, and there's the bonus, obviously
2017-09-22 22:07
respect man. you are very good and honest Ceo. i hope you will find even better players. and even if not, you still did ALL LIKE YOU SHOULD!
2017-09-22 21:53
thank mr whinston
2017-09-22 21:54
#263
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Canada mattyfinch 
kng the twin sisters just got roasted by an educated, professional owner. He leaves very little validity to KNG's comments, and makes it clear that those 3 are allowing some loyalty to one another and their chosen way to go about being "professionals" to effectively end their professional careers, at the very least, on the international scale. This is a classic case of entitled dickheads with talent thinking that that makes them untouchable and held to a different set of rules or requirements than others. Some time spent out of the lime light, without the big pay cheques might smarten these idiots up from the boys they are, to the men they were expected to be.
2017-09-22 21:54
well put sir +1
2017-09-23 13:48
I want to shit on every fangay who defend kNg and other unprofessional apes. CEO is 100% right.
2017-09-22 21:56
#272
jR | 
Ukraine lancee 
Very smart guy
2017-09-22 21:56
#276
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Denmark keNLey94 
just because he don't get the same result as the team doesn't mean he have to kick and destroy the immortals team give them a warning that's it this is the most ridicilous decision immortals CEO made it's not bad because you own something you can't stand in for a guy who m make a mistake and if you don't receive something after the players show the immortals logo why do you have a csgo team then wtf
2017-09-22 21:57
I really don't get why it's so hard to understand. The CEO didn't destroy the team, the 3 players did.
2017-09-22 22:14
+1 100%
2017-09-22 22:14
#345
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Denmark keNLey94 
they didn't destroy the team they made a mistake then move on it's fine they lose their cut of dreamhack montreal but why let the team being destroyed now because of a fail that's ridicilous I don't get it and since they woulnd't let kNg play vs CLG is also wrong since he say "people came to watch them play in montreal" yes then they also came to watch kng playing vs CLG next time and not zakk
2017-09-22 22:27
Haha what? Making death-threats, disobeying punishments and showing up late for finals are not mistakes, they´re choices. Are you really comparing a LAN-final where people have payed money for tickets to an online-qualifier? I can't help but laugh.
2017-09-22 22:30
#358
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Denmark keNLey94 
do you really think they they wanted to be late in a match for 50.000$ come on wake up please and the death threat was just an angry to FNS while he should be punished for telling bullshit of immortals players without a reason
2017-09-22 22:33
It doesn't matter. It's your job to be on time, you get a salary for doing this and by being late you give your employer bad PR. Exactly the same thing with threatening people. You are a public figure and can't afford to be triggered in that way, no excuses. Bad PR will result in sponsors and investors being unwilling to work with your employer. Calling these actions mistakes is just hilarious.
2017-09-22 22:37
#366
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Denmark keNLey94 
which law says just because you are a public person you have to be perfect? they are person like the rest of the world they are not more diffent than us and yes you come late on work you will get a warning or maybe lose some money first time and that's what they should surpose to do and i give you right that is not okay but it can happen so move on
2017-09-22 22:40
Law? What haha? It's common sense to realize that you are the represent of a brand and need to act accordingly. There is a difference between working at McDonalds and being a public figure for a brand with millions of followers. Also, he got a warning, disobeyed it and got fired accordingly. Problem?
2017-09-22 22:48
#382
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Denmark keNLey94 
disobeyed what he wanted to help the team is that a problem? i know what you are trying to say but i wil lsay it's msot stupid by immortals to even go in and decide theese stupid things that he couldn't play what have a threatment with coutner-strike to do why couldn't he play he would be able to play anyway later somehow since they convinced noah about he just should have time to apologize so why decide to not let him play
2017-09-22 22:56
He wasn't allowed to play, disobeyed a direct order. What is hard to understand? When your boss tell you something, do you don't do the exact opposite. You're the employee and the CEO is your boss.
2017-09-22 22:57
#392
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Denmark keNLey94 
noah is a boos yes then he have to give him something to work with not holidays when he make a mistake/or something stupid like you call it
2017-09-22 23:01
Something to work with? kNg showed that he cannot behave as a professional thus hurting the brand. They scheduled a call to talk things through and he yet again fail to show up? He got plenty of space, acted unprofessionally and got booted.
2017-09-22 23:03
#396
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Denmark keNLey94 
that's a wierd way to give the man a punishment to not play with the team, that only makes the team behind with their work instead of focusing on something else
2017-09-22 23:05
Big respect to Immortals CEO.
2017-09-22 21:59
gained so much respect to Noah after these words. brazilians acted in a pathetic way.
2017-09-22 22:00
Wise words and thoughts. Good luck to boltz and steel in immortals.
2017-09-22 22:00
IMT are smart to bench them so that if another org wants that major spot from those 2 and kng they are gonna have to buy them out before the next major.
2017-09-22 22:00
+1 And I really hope he makes a shit ton load of money by that to rebuild his team.
2017-09-22 22:14
I fully agree with u noah. Twins and kng are good players, but they have this Fnx irresponsable party boys vibe
2017-09-22 22:03
Atleast fnx doesn't threaten to kill people and try to search them down in a hotel
2017-09-22 23:24
+1 at least fnx keeps to himself and doesn't threaten to kill people on twitter.
2017-09-22 23:53
i agree, kng is worst than fnx
2017-09-23 21:35
Good words by Noah. Huge respect for you being so honest and for sure you have honor! They disrespected all the spectators, opponents, organisation and themselves by the way. Good decision!
2017-09-22 22:03
#293
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Turkey DebbSoray 
Respect. Brazilians should support this guy, not 3 screaming morons.
2017-09-22 22:03
+1
2017-09-22 22:06
#444
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Brazil nozebr 
I know that is hard for you to believe, but most of us support noah, what kng, lucas, hen1 did wasn't something that we're proud of. He did the right move.
2017-09-22 23:53
#458
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Turkey DebbSoray 
It's good to hear this mate. I hope steel and boltz can find decent players to play with.
2017-09-23 00:22
We are (most of us anyway)
2017-09-22 23:53
#299
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Ireland geeneR 
omg why u kick kng he was gooder than horvy
2017-09-22 22:06
ask kNg why he was drunk and late to the final then maybe?
2017-09-22 22:11
#327
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Ireland geeneR 
u are deluded bro kng was not drunk
2017-09-22 22:16
jet lagged? it doesn't really matter :) the fact - they were LATE
2017-09-22 22:24
#342
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Ireland geeneR 
man u are wrong KnG had a rought time with visa why u have to be so one sided, i love pujan but this is too far
2017-09-22 22:26
"HEN1 and LUCAS1 refused to continue to play the match unless kNg was allowed to play," he reveals. "kNg playing was a direct violation of the punishment that we had communicated to him and the players less than a day earlier. "For violating that punishment, kNg was immediately terminated from his contract and is not part of Immortals and will never again be part of Immortals." logically speaking it's either the ceo's responsibility or the coach's to forfeit the match and punish hen1 and lucas1 for refusing to play. is this guy implying kng forced the other 4 players and the coach to let him play knowing he was forbidden to do so? this is ibp shit all over again. if all of them knew he wasn't allowed to play and followed through with it they share the blame. hell, kng might even have less of a role in this if his statement is to be believed. that and him saying that on a personal level he doesn't care whether the players were late because they were partying (which is a result of an unprofessional and immature behavior) or because they overslept as a result of a jetlag (which is a medical condition) makes his rant about immortal's philosophy feel like something you would get from a cheap advertisement leaflet. someone please tell this guy to get some PR staff because he's botching it really bad which should be impossible in this case.
2017-09-22 22:08
your username is accurate. They are under his payroll, Hen1 and Lucas1 is required to play whether they like to or not, and kng is not allowed. It is not the fault of the CEO if the 2 refused to play, they have a backup and a coach, why should he cancel a match because of 1 fucking guy? "kng not having less of a role in this" is the most retarded thing I've heard this year considering he started the whole thing.
2017-09-22 23:42
He said "kng had less of a role" don't make a strawman argument. I do agree with him, that it's very weird that he would let kng play because Hen1 and Lucas wouldn't play otherwise, just to kick kng because of hen1 and lucas request? Wtf.
2017-09-22 23:58
I knew Noah is a wise man, but this confirms it 100%
2017-09-22 22:08
Noah is a stupid two faced LoL fag
2017-09-22 22:09
Explain in which case is he "twofaced"?
2017-09-22 22:10
This whole "for kng, hen1 and lucas1 winning is everything" shit seems unlegit to me. He worked with these guys for over a year or in kng's case at least several months, seemingly with no doubts about there attitude, feasting on their success. And now that they are not willing to play for his organisation anymore he drops shit like that, damaging their reputation just when they have to search for a new team, depicting them as people who would cheat and stop at nothing for the win.
2017-09-22 22:19
1) kNg and CO were late on FINAL (drunk or jetlagged it doesn't matter) 2) by this act they disrespected spectators, the opponents, the organisation, their own organisation 3) they were kicked i see nothing twofaced here
2017-09-22 22:22
In his video statement he also say's that he's respecting hen1's and lucas1 decision to leave woithout kng, rather than forcing them to play, but the 3 expressed their wish to leave the organisation way earlier and he just ignored it. Then after describing the difference in philosophy he says he would be waiting until lucas1 and hen1 would be bought out of there contracts or change their minds, as if he didnt just stated that their attitude doent fit hios organisation. Also damn jetlagg is and actual matter. Despite that the org should be caring for kng's visa, what they seemingly fucked up. Kng stated that he was held for 2 days after the USA refused to let him enter the country, before he could return to brazil which for me would be a reason to screw that org. Trust me i dont really like the trio, but he will regret that decision because nobody remembers an org for decisions like that if they dont come up with actual success.
2017-09-22 22:36
Damaging their reputation? Not needed, they're fully capable of doing that themselves.
2017-09-22 22:39
only to retarded no brain Brazilians
2017-09-22 23:43
#RESPECT_MR_WHINSTON_IMMORTALS_CEO
2017-09-22 22:11
"It is less about the end result and it is more about the process, the inputs that go into winning: the hard work, the dedication, the sacrifice and the discipline that create champions, not the championship itself. "Unfortunately, this difference in philosophy is largely unresolvable. Players with skill, ingame communication and great tactical play are fantastic, but having all of those things does not make you a professional player. It just makes you a talented player." Huge respect for Noah Whinston right now, go Immortals!
2017-09-22 22:12
Belo e moral.
2017-09-22 22:13
#325
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United States NA_CS_FAN 
good shit noah keep up the good work
2017-09-22 22:15
#326
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CIS unflagmoon 
fnx hen1 lucas1 kNg th
2017-09-22 22:15
We need to see fnx playing again
2017-09-22 23:22
#330
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World bigb1rd 
That's a great video from Noah and honestly fuck anyone who disagrees with anything he says or abuses him purely based on looks. It's a really solid, professional and well thought-out speech that covers all of the issues, answers questions and doesn't get bitchy/personal etc. Exactly how anyone in the scene should be acting who is currently fulltime and making a really good living from CSGO. Lucas, hen1 and kng would do well to take Noah as a shining of example of how they ought to put themselves across.
2017-09-22 22:17
+1
2017-09-22 22:23
#332
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United States WallehZz^v^ 
i just think kNg hen1 and lucas NEED boltz steel and zakk i really really hope they stick together kNg did wrong and i fully support him getting kicked out of the org, BUT the twins gotta grow up but steel and boltz NEED to stay w/ hen1 lucas and kng are they will never make the top again who knows if kng hen1 and lucas with as well
2017-09-22 22:20
lol good riddance.. brazilians should go back to their slums
2017-09-22 22:27
ripmortals
2017-09-22 22:30
just mortals lol
2017-09-22 23:21
I think the only loser in this situation is the org. fnx lucas hen1 kng will just make new team and have auto qualification for major ez boltz and steel will get huge offers to big teams. I can see SK even picking up boltz. Steel will get sooo many offers since he is IGL and skilled. I don't see them picking up LG/tempo storm players... they are just not at all the same level of play. it would be waste of time.
2017-09-22 22:32
#370
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Turkey pardus 
you are forgetting the fact that 3 of these players have contracts in IMT. this means the org that's gonna add these players have to pay their buyouts. i don't think any org would do it.
2017-09-22 22:44
Noah "two faced" Toledo. All I can say about all this is this guy is power tripping hard, he don't give a shit about CS he only cares about his garbage Dota and LoL team (who are shit I might add), anyway doesn't bother me this guy just made his own bed and now has to lay in it, have fun not being relevant in any game now hahaha retard.
2017-09-22 22:32
butthurt? He just said truth which is triggers you right?
2017-09-22 22:45
Not at all just find it funny he would give up the only relevant team he has to flex on people, these kids are playing video games for a living of course moments like these will happen online when nerds get triggered grow the fuck up on move on stop trying to milk all the publicity out of this. This guy is really just trying to appeal to this overly sensitive cucked community nothing else.
2017-09-22 22:48
poor kNg : (
2017-09-22 22:41
#371
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Canada rdss 
cmoon stop this onkeys drama......no one cares....
2017-09-22 22:45
Respect to the Immortals CEO, Noah Whinston!
2017-09-22 22:46
#374
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Brazil kadota1 
dat drama... just quit immortals and go to another team... ¬¬'
2017-09-22 22:47
i respect the ceo , kng is literally the most toxic guy i've ever seen , and i thought simple was toxic rofl
2017-09-22 22:48
+1
2017-09-22 22:55
#379
RpK | 
World alexgone 
respect to org
2017-09-22 22:50
Yes their behavior has been bad in a while but the way the org manages the team has not been optimal. First it was FNX hiring, taking in a troubled veteran player and expecting him to be humble and serving to a very inexperienced team just to bench him due to "internal issues" when the team were in a high with ONLY 3 months, C'mon the org should be sure they had hands firm enough to make the guy put his shit together or they should not even pick him in the first place. But ok, it's a fairly new team, you learn from your mistakes right? Aparently not, they hire kNgV a guy that was clear as water since the beginning did not have the emotional stability to handle being in an already troubled team with a visible lack of leadership. The cracks didn't take long to start showing. The org was clearly unpleased and fed up with the team behavior, just compare the social media posts from Immortals in the beggining of the year during the "fnx honeymoon" with the later on, the csgo team received less and less praise and space compared to their other games despite qualifying heroically to the majors then making finals when nobody expected they to go further than groups. So what the org does just afterthat? hire another player as a backup, is like saying "hey guys watch your back, is not because you nearly won a major that I won't fuck you right in the ass if you don't behave" Then it came the Dreamhack fiasco, and here I think the thing really went downhill in the team management field,. Ok the guys were late and should be punished within the org but, as a team and, with people saying they were drunk fucks when the players swearing to god they were sober, the org should at least for the public back the team up and not let people talk their asses off and destroy their players reputations without any proof. But no, they let the dramma float free and as punishment, instead of handling things internaly they fucking suspended their player from playing a qualifier. You see, I'm not saying the immature fucks that play for immortals are right, what I am saying is that the org, since the beggining, has bitten more than they could chew, betting in raw skill but forgeting that they are handling something that goes a little further than the game and is called human beings.
2017-09-22 22:57
#388
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United States FaZeMeister 
respect to Noah
2017-09-22 22:58
dumb lying kid vs guy who knows whats up ez
2017-09-22 23:00
#391
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Russia V1P3RRR 
ofc IMT have their own pov but i dont think that it was so terrible situation for cut kNg immideatly from the team lul They could just deny his salary as LG ceo did with TACO when he conflicted w/ s1mple Naoh is not right imo.
2017-09-22 23:02
they didn't cut him immediately, did you read the statement? Noah Whinston said he WANTED to cut kNg, but decided to give him a second chance. So the team was told that kNg was suspended, and the team said this to kNg. Then kNg violated his suspension to get revenge on CLG. He was given a second chance and he blew it.
2017-09-22 23:14
#433
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Russia V1P3RRR 
Kng said he didnt know about suspending, just asked team to join them and they didnt say he has been suspended Idk who to believe
2017-09-22 23:49
kNg said steel told him he was suspended. Then after game 1, the twins told him to come play anyway. Noah says "HEN1 and LUCAS1 refused to continue to play the match unless kNg was allowed to play,". So in my opinion, the twins lied to kNg and told him he could play, even though kNg and the rest of the team knew he was suspended.
2017-09-22 23:52
#446
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Russia V1P3RRR 
Probably. Anyway, its pretty rude to cut kng after this incedent imo
2017-09-22 23:54
if kNg was suspended for a previous incident, then intentionally violated his suspension, he should be kicked every time. I don't care who you are, if you deliberately disobey orders from the man who pays your salary, you don't deserve to be on the team.
2017-09-22 23:58
Also the S1mple TACO shit is not the same. He threatened to kill someone + tried to find him
2017-09-22 23:45
S1mple and Taco was just minor drama. Nothing compared to this shitshow.
2017-09-23 14:27
#564
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Russia V1P3RRR 
This is the same except imt were late on match
2017-09-23 19:58
“kNg, for some reason, was not able to make that call” Shocker? This guy is the epitome of a scumbag
2017-09-22 23:02
#398
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Canada uhJake 
Everyone talking shit.. but man immortals was some sexy cs to watch. Rip
2017-09-22 23:08
I wasn't sure about a right side of the conflict, but this statement from Whinston is horrible. Now i definitely on the players' side
2017-09-22 23:19
#412
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Brazil Collee 
Well done. These 3 party animals will end up arguing at some point and disband. They'll probably play with fnx now, so make it 4, and possibly 5 party animals in a lineup. Gonna be fun
2017-09-22 23:21
#502
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Brazil oldStar 
+1
2017-09-23 03:15
EXP IBP + STEELEGA AND BOLTZ DAZED AZK AND SWAG + the 2 Brazilians left
2017-09-22 23:39
#423
FalleN | 
Brazil Feio91 
The most important wasn't say: THE MANAGER AUTHORIZED KNG TO PLAY OR NO?
2017-09-22 23:40
Pussy
2017-09-22 23:41
So unprofesional on the side of kng hen1 and lucas
2017-09-22 23:44
#432
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Brazil waveeee 
Professionals must bahave as professionals need to behave. The organization have a owners that take a lot of risk, so the players must follow his orders. Dont sign a contract that u r not 100% sure of following. Immortals must be respected, this guys are young, they can comeback stronger. Lets cheer that immortals gets this 2 players needed fast!
2017-09-22 23:46
#442
Kane | 
Latvia 6matko 
The decision was correct. Respect to CEO & for their philosophy.
2017-09-22 23:53
"Unfortunately, this difference in philosophy is largely unresolvable. Players with skill, ingame communication and great tactical play are fantastic, but having all of those things does not make you a professional player. It just makes you a talented player."
2017-09-22 23:56
+1 kids will never understand this.
2017-09-23 04:00
Respect man !
2017-09-22 23:57
kng is a ungrateful fuckwit
2017-09-22 23:58
#455
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North America Foxaika 
I have to say, I side with Immortals here. Nothing that was done on their side was unprofessional I would say. If they had done much out there would be a lack of accountability and it would show the players they could do whatever they want without repercussions. I feel bad for Steel and boltz. It just seems like they're caught up in things. There's not much they can do.
2017-09-23 00:05
Good on you guys. Standing up for what is right instead of defending some brain dead cucks.
2017-09-23 00:17
#459
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Australia ovaD 
Respect 4 Boltz, Steel, coach and CEO Noah for putting up with these clowns this long.
2017-09-23 00:25
#462
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Brazil FlipperG 
steel boltz <3 kng, lucas and hen, bye, we will not miss you. Just put Cogu, yeL and Horvy, they are way more responsible than they
2017-09-23 00:41
nice
2017-09-23 00:43
Hen1 Lucas fucking kiddos, they don't reserve a carrer with that attitude
2017-09-23 01:32
#479
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Brazil rockburn 
Solution: HEN1 LUCAS1 kNg fnx b1t Simple like that. Good evening.
2017-09-23 01:38
Steel Boltz Horvy (hopefully he will turn out to be good) iDk/Chelo Pava 2nd squad FNX kNg Hen1 Lucas1 yeL
2017-09-23 01:45
#491
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Brazil Drezim1 
3 awp? kng hen1 yel
2017-09-23 02:24
Favela Brothers Hen1 Lucas1 and KnG lmao, i just hope not a single respectable org will sign this retards.
2017-09-23 01:47
yeah this ceo is an idiot.
2017-09-23 02:21
#492
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Portugal dracø 
cba reading, I just hope he says somewhere in there that he'll lock the twins with their contracts for as long as they last. KNG fucked up and had to be punished, the twins fucked up to a lesser degree and should be punished as well. In the end, they end up fucking up a good team instead of admitting to their mistakes. Hope this teaches them the lesson that they clearly need. Hope boltz and steel manage to recover from this, they take a hard blow without any fault in any of this.
2017-09-23 02:27
#493
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World AngelShinta 
I like Noah Whinston ...he is completely right...people who deny it are just salty fanboys... I also likes these 3...and I'm very sad that they left / have to leave...but that is THEIR fault.
2017-09-23 02:35
cool, good luck with your next lineup, if you have luck you can be at level of echo fox!! :> good luck! :>
2017-09-23 02:36
I was inactive for a few weeks but I see you're still retarded
2017-09-23 03:34
you can say I'm retarded, but u cant say I'm wrong xd
2017-09-23 03:36
if you have luck you can be at level of echo fox!! :> I mean, you are a favela boy, of course you won't expect much from a roster that has normal people If you are 24, I feel bad for you
2017-09-23 03:49
hum ok so echo fox > imt by your logic ._. org wont sell and have profits with tier 20 team ._. having fucked up players that get top2 at major, win dreamhacks and stuff >>> any boring 0 personality player from NA ='( reported for racism btw =p no arguments and mad af cuz delusional fanboi LUL gl next acc
2017-09-23 12:08
Did you get hacked?
2017-09-23 12:28
+1
2017-09-23 06:44
#499
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Malaysia phyzell 
So if someones tweets you a bad joke, you have no right to tweet back a bad joke. It's a fucking girlish world twitter is, that's why I only use facebook.
2017-09-23 02:55
He was not joking.
2017-09-23 14:39
#551
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Malaysia phyzell 
Must be the Brazilian version of badass Stone Cold 3:16 :D
2017-09-23 14:55
#500
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Turkey berkeman 
#freesteel
2017-09-23 03:00
#RIP IMMORTALS & NOAH. They will never have a lineup nearly as good as what they had.
2017-09-23 03:21
#538
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Denmark SK2Strong 
THX to KNG, the diference from tier 2 to potential TOP 5!
2017-09-23 12:44
The amount of brazillian who support that trio show me that most brazillian really dont have professional attitude. And they kept supporting what ever their countrymen did. No player is bigger than orgs. Even star like Niko dont do that shit. Well respect for those brazillian who dont defend them.
2017-09-23 03:53
#512
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Brazil oldStar 
+1
2017-09-23 05:02
Well I support those Brazilians, they wanted to leave the IMT team but most likely they didn't allow them to so they "came late" to the finals on purpose. You don't know what was between the org and the trio. Do you think that the CEO or the players will tell you the truth?
2017-09-23 09:29
#539
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Denmark SK2Strong 
The team was broken, twoi players was there while 3 dont. Hen and Lucas has asked to leave before this situation, for sure there's something more behind what they say. There's no saint in this history!
2017-09-23 12:49
Lucas, Hen and Kng were never mistreated by the org. They wanted to leave IMT because they wanted to start a team with FNX who was benched because he got shitfaced during a tournament. They are just a bunch of apes with no professionalism and 0 respect for anyone in their enviorment, including thier team mates; boltz and steel.
2017-09-23 14:33
+1 what ever the reason is. you dont shit your employer who brought you this far. they are talented player but will never be profesional player. that is something orgs should not tolerate even lose major spot.
2017-09-23 15:41
nice keep it pro
2017-09-23 04:32
LMAO. Noah just fired their social media. Dude is outta mind.
2017-09-23 06:43
CEO puts his hurt feelings over the TEAM very nice go back to cod whiner
2017-09-23 06:59
#521
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Estonia Delan0 
Right way for the CEO to run what is ultimatley hos business. Benched players hardly get payed in NA. Even in traditional sports. Especially if they are benched for shitty performance or bad behaviour and damaging the orgs image. As far as creating a new team goes. Which org has the money and willingness to buy out three players at once. Especially if all of those players have shown to be unstable at best. Doubt we will see these guys in a same team ever unless they just sit out their contracts or buy themselves out lol.
2017-09-23 07:31
gj brazil, very nice ppl u have. twoface fallen and the IMT K1ds are org destroyers!
2017-09-23 08:34
uhm... did they get monthly salaries while benched? i wouldn't mind if get benched while receiving normal salary xd
2017-09-23 09:10
Nice
2017-09-23 10:17
#527
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Greenland duedue 
if lucas + heni + kng make a new team, will they have rights to major spot? as a 3/5 of legend team?
2017-09-23 10:45
Yes. But lucas and heni are still under contracts and must be bought. They cant just go on and about and make a new team :)
2017-09-23 11:41
#534
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Greenland duedue 
i know, just speculating, they can buy out on their own i guess
2017-09-23 12:41
Yes. Kng probably won't be able to make it if the major is hosted in any country with strict visas, but yeah, the spot belongs to the players.
2017-09-23 14:37
It's time for Villamix Esports to shine boys, with Villamix Esports Rafael "Cogu" Camargo Lincoln "fnx" Lau Henrique "Hen1" Teles Lucas "Lucas1" Teles Vito "Kng" Giuseppe Ez major, Ez life
2017-09-23 12:08
3 awpers?
2017-09-23 21:58
looks sexy af
2017-09-23 23:12
#531
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United Kingdom Georgebaii 
Brazil scene is irrelevant apart from SK, this team was doomed from the start.
2017-09-23 12:09
+1 to the CEO
2017-09-23 12:42
#RESPECT from Gelsenkirchen #2017 #CR7
2017-09-23 12:55
What a shitty org lmao
2017-09-23 13:27
#543
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United States melfmonanov 
1 point for the CEO and ZERO to them trio. It sucked because it happened like this but all they can do is to move forward.
2017-09-23 13:44
disobey boss, get fired. how fucking dumb do you have to be to not understand this?
2017-09-23 13:58
GG. I hope they get fucked by some shady brazillian org now.
2017-09-23 14:35
As some people know, Noah also fired their social media. Here is the link: twitlonger.com/show/n_1sq71ri
2017-09-23 14:58
Most of them are not disciplined , that's why Fallen never accepted Lucas on SK Squad, instead he preferred felps which is a quiet and well educated man, lucas1 talks way too much and act like a 8 years old! Well done to Immortals CEO, Every act of creation is first an act of destruction. Pablo Picasso
2017-09-23 15:01
it would be nice to know how many months of contract have the trio left,and how many is the (inicial)buyout.
2017-09-23 15:30
lucas1 and hen1 drunk > ALL NA scene
2017-09-23 16:05
and bwt why lucas and hen1 are so mad if they can now go to parties all days,and probably being paid....
2017-09-23 16:26
steel bolts dazed swag azk gogogogo
2017-09-23 16:29
Professionalism is a difficult concept for the immature. Great response from the Immortals CEO.
2017-09-23 20:03
#573
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Romania Tise 
At least have the decency of rewarding Boltz and Steel for their professionalism and let them have the legend status instead of these 3 immature faggots. It was Kng's and the twin's reason why the team is in deep shit in the first place.
2017-09-24 15:08
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