Immortals seek up to $1m for benched trio - Report

MIRAA
November 3rd, 2017 16:25

Immortals CEO Noah Whinston has set an asking price of approximately $1 million for Henrique "HEN1" Teles, Lucas "LUCAS1" Teles and Lincoln "fnx" Lau, according to a report from Flickshot.fr and ESPN Esports Brasil.

The North American organisation is currently listening to offers for the benched trio, who have confirmed their intention to link up with free agent Vito "kNgV-" Giuseppe and with TeamOne member Bruno "bit" Lima ahead of ELEAGUE Major Boston.

Together, Lucas "LUCAS1" Teles, Henrique "HEN1" Teles and kNgV- represent the core of the Immortals roster that finished runners-up at PGL Major Krakow, which gives them a berth at the next Valve-sponsored event. This has drawn the attention of a number of parties, from private investors to esports organisations, but a deal is nowhere near completion at the moment.

It is reported that some of the team’s suitors are baulking at Immortals’ valuation of LUCAS1, HEN1 and Lincoln "fnx" Lau (as a package deal), and also at Mr. Whinston’s deadline of November 7 for the deal to go through, and as a result they could pull out of negotiations.

Immortals won't let their players leave on the cheap

Valve has also set a deadline of November 10 for teams with "Legend" status to submit their rosters for the ELEAGUE Major. At this moment, everything points to ex-Immortals losing their spot at the Major if the players are not bought out of their contracts by that date.

Any organisation or investor interested in securing ex-Immortals’ services will also need to reach an agreement with TeamOne for the transfer of bit, who has been moved to a backup position by the Brazilian organisation as he looks to resolve his future. 

Brazil Henrique 'HEN1' Teles
Henrique 'HEN1' Teles
Age:
22
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.14
Maps played:
496
KPR:
0.73
DPR:
0.57
APR:
0.12
Brazil Lucas 'LUCAS1' Teles
Lucas 'LUCAS1' Teles
Age:
22
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.01
Maps played:
493
KPR:
0.68
DPR:
0.66
APR:
0.16
Brazil Vito 'kNgV-' Giuseppe
Vito 'kNgV-' Giuseppe
Age:
23
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.19
Maps played:
227
KPR:
0.82
DPR:
0.66
APR:
0.11
Brazil Bruno 'bit' Lima
Bruno 'bit' Lima
Age:
27
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.05
Maps played:
179
KPR:
0.72
DPR:
0.66
APR:
0.16
Brazil Lincoln 'fnx' Lau
Lincoln 'fnx' Lau
Age:
27
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.07
Maps played:
412
KPR:
0.73
DPR:
0.66
APR:
0.17
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2017-11-03 16:27
#3
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Mongolia Tendies 
oh shit boi Immortals savage af Noah Whinston outta nowhere with that holding hostage through contracts Low key unexpected considering most pundits thought he wasn't that sort of guy
2017-11-03 16:30
how much?
2017-11-03 16:28
#40
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Austria shaakeh 
wait WHAT
2017-11-03 16:29
HAHAHHAA
2017-11-03 16:29
Doing it purposely to makr this three suffer
2017-11-03 16:44
#267
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Finland DesHis123 
good
2017-11-03 16:52
#394
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Turkey pardus 
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Noah Whinston is a fucking savage
2017-11-03 17:17
haha nt Noah "cuck" Whinston $1m for 3 players LUL. They will end up leaving at the end of their contracts I suppose. Hope they do and IMT go under after wasting all their investors' money.
2017-11-03 18:39
#605
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Argentina FabriConti 
Whoever pays 1m is not buying just 3 players, it's buying one spot to next mayor and that is a big deal.
2017-11-03 18:42
it is overvalued either way. the org that bought them wouldn't start profiting even if they won one major and got sticker sales. which is obviously not guaranteed. it doesn't matter they won't be sold at this price. their value will drop after the major because they won't have the spot and probably then they are bought out or leave. there will be 3 majors next year. better to miss the first if you are one of the players.
2017-11-03 18:49
Consider this, the OWL which is a shit show requires a 20 million buy in not counting salaries, housing, travel and equipment. 1 Million for a major spot and a good base for a team is nothing to be scoffed at. It may be overpriced for some but its nothing irrational, easy way to make yourself a name in esports.
2017-11-03 19:28
#787
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Brazil LangBR 
the major only pays 500k to the first place, so its impossible to get the 1M back
2017-11-04 02:19
#811
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Denmark qwedsa 
congrats, most retarded reply of the day! why am I not surprised it belongs to a brazilian
2017-11-04 10:16
hi racist
2017-11-04 12:51
Hi victim complex moron
2017-11-04 16:59
Actually depending on the wording of their contracts it's possible that even when the contract expires he can still hold them until they are bought out
2017-11-03 21:16
That's what it seemed that he was implying if you listened to what he said it basically sounded like their might be a clause which essentially voids all payments to the player due to being unwilling to play under the immortals banner as well as a the freezing of said contracts at least that is what i interpreted from what he said i do like this move though cause he is basically telling them hey fuckwits you thought you could play me nah if i don't get the major you don't get that major.
2017-11-03 23:19
i don't think that's possible. i don't think it sounds very legal to hold someone indefinitely.
2017-11-04 01:36
I would agree but i would also argue that if they are still being paid then said contract will finish out but if payment stops that contract is either void because of both party's agreeing to do so or an indefinite suspension of said contract only preventing them from playing for another team in csgo whereas they can still very much go find a job or stream to try to make money. Regardless if they aren't bought out by the 7th then he will keep them till the contracts run out at which point they will be unable to compete for the major due to the November 10th deadline.
2017-11-04 06:57
served tbf
2017-11-03 17:10
#507
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Singapore chungsterr 
Good fck those 3 arrogant idiots up hard
2017-11-03 17:45
#856
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Brazil Narzhul 
True,
2017-11-05 00:56
I thought the same thing, he needs some way to fund his new dog shit team that won’t last xd
2017-11-03 20:07
#826
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Denmark Xipingu 
Deserved, let those 3 rot.
2017-11-04 14:58
#181
fnx | 
Brazil DroidNTC 
ez money for Neymar
2017-11-03 16:42
Neymar will buy these guys mark my words Team Villa Mix confirmed: fnx hen lucas kng bit Neymar: coach
2017-11-03 16:51
#534
swag | 
Panama FaZeKQLY 
hahaha
2017-11-03 17:55
#586
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United States TheViggs 
Neymar backup, coach will be from Asia cuz why not
2017-11-03 18:26
Coach: Cogu Sponsor: Neymar
2017-11-03 20:36
Fuck fnx or bit neymar is crazy he will buy them and say "i want to play to" lol
2017-11-03 23:40
+1
2017-11-03 23:45
#858
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France kleps0 
I laughed so hard
2017-11-05 01:15
Neymar : soccer player, not a coach. He doesnt have time to be a coach
2017-11-06 01:25
In this case, it's more to do with the players not fulfilling their part of the contract and being fucking morons. Literally a top 10 team and they just squandered it for no reason
2017-11-03 16:51
#263
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United States Phamous3k 
Lol. If it’s fuck me its fuck you. GG
2017-11-03 16:52
pundits in csgo.. kys
2017-11-03 17:04
#345
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Mongolia Tendies 
Because of this comment, I will actually kill myself
2017-11-03 17:05
wtf no im just joking please dont :{
2017-11-03 17:06
Pussy shit by immortals owner
2017-11-03 17:25
holy moly
2017-11-03 16:38
Bad news, i saw It happing, its not top easy to do what they want to do.
2017-11-03 16:48
If they didn’t spend their money with parties they would have paid to leave Immortals and have the money back after major..
2017-11-03 16:52
there is no time to hatred, i know its not easy to understand what they do but they are young, have alot to live and alot to err and learn, but they made their choice and now it's w8 and cheer it gone work... i want see this boys on the Major. wish u the best of them...
2017-11-03 23:02
ez for motar2k
2017-11-03 17:23
#541
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Brazil elkay 
k
2017-11-03 18:01
#546
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Brazil Gvstav 
This price is obviously result of Noah rage. He want to fuck up the boys
2017-11-03 18:05
#685
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Canada gaaagnon 
euhm lul?? the boys fucked themselves up. What did they expect? That the org was gonna let them off easy? They asked for this because of the kNg situation. They should've stopped crying about playing with zakk for the epicenter qualifiers and bit their tongue and wait. A month long bench isn't the end of the fucking world. They refused and Noah stood his ground. Which he's doing once again. They're gonna have to make a choice last minute take part in the major or not. If they want to take part of the major, they will probably have to do so under the immortals org since they won't be bought out at that price. If someone is retarded enough to pay one mil for those three then Noah is gonna be laughing to the bank with this. This is a BUSINESS. Noah is handling this exactly the way he should.
2017-11-03 20:16
+1
2017-11-04 00:49
#759
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Canada gaaagnon 
Thanks for the +1, nice to see someone else understand this aspect. I don't agree with how it's being handled for sure, but the thing people don't seem to fully understand is that for ORG's players don't matter... the #1 Priority is making profit at the end of the year, not loosing money. Sucks that they don't just accommodate and break the contract, but look at ANY professional sport, Hockey, Baseball, Basketball, Football, American Football, w.e a player doesn't just get let go for nothing, It's either for a shit ton of money or for quite the trade in return. It's the players rights to request to leave, but it's the org's right to get what they want in return. Contracts are there for that very purpose. ORG'S won't throw money out the window.
2017-11-04 00:53
Yeah I know, but I believe that in this very specific case it is not all about the money, Noah made it very clear in his last statement that he cares a lot about their principals and values, therefore I wouldn't be surprised if he refuses to let them play at the major even if they agree to do it, I mean, they are kind of "fired" you know? It is not like he would let them play as he knows they would never "do their best" for the org and have (IMO) low chance of maintaining their legend status, if the trio (twins + steel) actually play on the major with boltz or other two, I don't see them getting trough groups, they are not practicing anymore and have a lot of internal issues. So I believe that Noah already knows IMM won't be represented at the next major and by what it looks until now villa mix team won't represent another org either. At this point I would recommend the villa mix core to help their future org to buy them out spending their own money, salaries and future salaries with their future org if they really want to play in the next major, otherwise I don't see any other way out of this complicated situation. Like someone else said before, I would love to see them playing the next major, this villa mix team is a solid tier 2 with all skill and experience needed to beat convincingly tier 1 teams, but props to Noah, I would do the same.
2017-11-04 01:13
#779
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Canada gaaagnon 
I agree with you I would like to see them play too no doubt about it this all started when they benched fnx and signed horvy honestly after that it was just adding oil to the fire. I personally think he's doing this to just completely prevent them from playing in the major.
2017-11-04 01:44
IMMORTALS is the worst org to play for. Now they are fucked.
2017-11-03 18:29
Worst org ? Is that a joke ???
2017-11-04 04:31
#831
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Denmark Xipingu 
True words of someone who doesn't know shit.
2017-11-04 15:03
#2
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Mongolia Tendies 
Holy fuck, Noah Whinston unexpected RL and Thorin thought he wouldn't hold them hostage like this but hot damn mans gotta hustle
2017-11-03 16:29
#34
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Brazil MarshalUDT 
I CAN PAY FOR THAT. BRAZILIANS ARE RICH
2017-11-03 16:28
#72
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Brazil MarshalUDT 
WEL... FORGET THE TRIO, NO ONE GONNA PAY 1 FUCKIN MILLION... INSTEAD, MAKE: +fnx +KGN + FELPS + 2 OTHERS
2017-11-03 16:30
#89
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Brazil Otazul 
no major then
2017-11-03 16:32
#98
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Brazil MarshalUDT 
SAD BUT TRUE....
2017-11-03 16:32
#158
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Norway insy 
Fnx is benched top though
2017-11-03 16:40
I agree, the only one worth pulling out is fnx.
2017-11-03 17:40
if it had fnx, maybe someone actually would
2017-11-03 23:15
#100
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World MixTM 
Totally worth the money man
2017-11-03 16:33
Neymar will buy these guys mark my words Team Villa Mix confirmed: fnx hen lucas kng bit Neymar: coach
2017-11-03 16:53
he's not holding them hostage you fucktard. They signed a contract and can't just leave whenever they want
2017-11-03 17:00
#328
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Brazil MarshalUDT 
fuck the contract, we are brazilians we do the shit we want to
2017-11-03 17:02
I guess that's why you murder each other in the streets
2017-11-03 17:03
#347
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Brazil MarshalUDT 
yes, just like detroit and chicago
2017-11-03 17:05
or like every city in brazil
2017-11-03 17:06
#358
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Brazil MarshalUDT 
we are awful and all, but we still win Majors. How many major usa have?
2017-11-03 17:07
USA doesn't focus on cs, instead we focus about accomplishments people care about, such as going to the moon, the olympics and math and science
2017-11-03 17:12
How about the people first?
2017-11-03 17:31
sincerely, someone who's never been here
2017-11-03 17:46
Bullshit, cs is life
2017-11-03 17:41
Good thing you're writing this on a CS forum...
2017-11-03 17:44
#558
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CIS AiryJade 
US and caring about people, lul, just like our crappy country.
2017-11-03 18:11
ahhah what ??? you realy thing that anyone went to the moon ? and normal people pay for that you get nothing on return just lies :D :D :D
2017-11-03 18:23
#833
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Denmark Xipingu 
It's so funny :DDD Even Russia / Asia region has 1 major now. NA? STILL 0 HAHAHAHAHA
2017-11-04 15:05
#350
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Brazil MarshalUDT 
i bet you must belong to some nigga gang from chicago
2017-11-03 17:06
#374
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Sweden Trkmag 
I agree, retarded burger
2017-11-03 17:11
turk living in sweden, anything you say is irrelevant
2017-11-03 18:32
#705
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Sweden Trkmag 
The only thing that's irrelevant is NA CS
2017-11-03 21:46
actually nip in majors is even more irrelevant
2017-11-04 00:18
"we are loyal" top kek
2017-11-03 18:05
#761
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Canada gaaagnon 
Fuck the contracts? We do what we want? Then explain to us why they're not doing what they want? OH 'cause they wouldn't be able to pay for the LAWSUITS that would come from breaching a professional contract? oh ok then.
2017-11-04 00:55
#355
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India Reaper1 
This was pretty much expected.
2017-11-03 17:06
#4
Poland dolb 
Dafuq get rekt villa mix trio!
2017-11-03 16:28
#168
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Brazil Kilgore91 
wtf you know villa mix lul
2017-11-03 16:41
#201
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Brazil coldzao 
what a cunt tbh
2017-11-03 16:43
#278
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United States Phamous3k 
Lol. This is a business. Hen1 & Lucas1 could of stayed they decided to move on UNDER CONTRACT. So Immortals have every right to ask for 1 million especially since those players fucked them out of a major spot.
2017-11-03 16:55
#285
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Brazil coldzao 
those players earned this major spot themselves, not like it was their CEO, this org wasnt even relevant back then, they made a name for it, and he paid with 0 respect im glad his lol roster is destroyed and dota team sucks , he will be bunkrupt soon
2017-11-03 16:56
they shouldnt have signed long contracts then, he is not holding them hostages, welcome to business
2017-11-03 17:09
Immortals have all the rights to ask what they want
2017-11-03 17:17
No, they don't. They have to repsect the fucking contract they signed.
2017-11-03 23:22
Immortals the org bro
2017-11-03 23:51
#762
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Canada gaaagnon 
What Captain is saying is 100% probably randomguy just misread? But Yes, ORG has the right to request anything they want. It's not cause they asked to just leave that the org will grant their wishes for nothing that's money out the window. Respect to you for grasping that simple aspect of business.
2017-11-04 00:58
well it seems cleveland cavaliers will buy them twitter.com/NWDeKay/status/9265995825568..
2017-11-04 01:51
#783
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Canada gaaagnon 
not surprising a lot of nba teams seem to have a lot of interest in e-sports. Good for them. Hopefully they get their shit together and stop fucking around cause an org backed by a player like the Cavaliers are gonna have some pretty solid contracts and serious lawyers to insure every aspect is respected.
2017-11-04 01:54
+1
2017-11-04 01:55
misread
2017-11-04 01:53
its okay ma frend and look they have been bought by the cavs twitter.com/NWDeKay/status/9265995825568..
2017-11-04 01:54
#873
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Europe Hempxz 
+1
2017-11-07 12:23
Ppl like u are the reason no one respects bra ppl. So def dumb an blind!
2017-11-03 17:11
#440
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Argentina [Darkaren] 
Lol, what about Boltz and Steel, they earned their spot too, but the difference is that they didn't got fucked by a ginger cunt, they got fucked by a pseudo italian aggressive and uncivilized piece of shit. I'm sorry but if you're going to be a dick for your whole life and expect people to be nice to you, then you're in for a big surprise my friend. +1 respect for noah.
2017-11-03 17:26
#485
f0rest | 
Yugoslavia Bodhii 
the blame is on them they signed a contact and they do not have any manners.they deserved ever worse than this. :)
2017-11-03 17:39
#509
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Brazil coldzao 
"do not have any manners" > missed 1 map out of 1000 instantly hated by everyone without a chance to be forgiven youre probably a kid, and you will face this kind of situation in your life, when nobody will give you a second chance, you will know then how horrible this is
2017-11-03 17:45
#513
f0rest | 
Yugoslavia Bodhii 
Don't even try,that has nothing to do with anything they fucking signed a contract and they didn't respect it.They are ungrateful pricks .even tho i'd love to see them play in villa mix but this is what they deserve
2017-11-03 17:47
#524
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Singapore chungsterr 
Sadly that is the harsh truth of life. Do good 1000 times nobody will notice. Fuck up once and you are damned. But serves them right.
2017-11-03 17:51
#576
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Korea Rohkoh 
Except they skipped a MAJOR. I don’t think your peanut brain can grasp how EASY doing this shit would be and then skimping out on the major because you fucking napped. Jesus christ how dense are you monkies?
2017-11-03 18:18
um... the organization took the risk of backing these players financially. The organization is within their full right to ask for recompensation if the players are backing out of a contract they signed.
2017-11-03 17:45
#526
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India Reaper1 
Those players earned the spot and what about boltz and steel? Even if this wasn't about money, Noah should have held their contracts anyway to keep it fair for boltz and steel. Wtf you are talking about 0 respect while backing the trio
2017-11-03 17:53
#563
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United States Phamous3k 
Bankrupt?!? He just bought an OWL league spot that costs 25 million. And his Dota team doing better then most. Anyways. Lol. U sound mad and I’m glad this is happening to those players. Lesson learned.
2017-11-03 18:13
Ahaha getting mad bruh? Harsh way to learn you have to pay for your actions but totally deserved - those guys taught they can force their organization to do what they will, yet they were left alone with a big pile of shit ;) Karma my friend ;)
2017-11-03 16:56
#312
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Brazil coldzao 
they can literally sit home do nothing and get contract money while fucking bitches on br beaches thats better than sucking dicks for a whole year like VP
2017-11-03 17:00
Ah youre a narrow minded person - if you were a football player being benched in a tier100 team getting paid small amounts of your base salary monthly would you be happy? Ask villa trio if they're happy with their current situation - no they are fucking furious yet this shit pile is so huge they can't move it unless someone bails them out. They're stuck in a shit hole sort of speak.
2017-11-03 17:06
#362
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Brazil coldzao 
well you said "they were left alone with a big pile of shit" ofc its bad for them but it could have been worse this is a dream life for someone..
2017-11-03 17:08
Tell that to them when they grow up realizing that they skipped school to chase their dreams, and they failed due to their irresponsible actions - left with no education and a mop cleaning SKs gaming house floors as with this kind of attitude they won't become next generation of BR analysis experts, commentators or couches. The fact that kng threatened someone and twins tried to force roster changes on their organization will not find them sponsors nor friends despite their country of origin you should know that and take a lesson from them.if you want to achieve anything in your adult life :)
2017-11-03 17:17
#649
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Brazil coldzao 
u mad instagram.com/p/BauS4bhDvqb/ they are definetely happier than u lolll
2017-11-03 19:23
#765
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Canada gaaagnon 
Do you have any idea of how pro contracts remotely work? Sure they can stay at home not do shit get paid their monthly salary until the contract runs out if it keeps going like this. But that's not all the contracts represent. There are bonuses and incentives included in every pro contract. Finish X in EPL you get X amount more direct in your pocket. Qualify for _______ tournament you get ____________$ more. For them it is easy money because they are that good. If the current immortals roster qualifies or gets those incentives, they are paid out to the player who are actually playing so they won't get shit. There's a reason why Noah is holding them by the ballsack. He's asking 1 mil because of the Major spot as well, after major should they not be bought out he's gonna drop the price. Like it was mentionned above, IMM just payed a shit ton of money for OWL spot. Money isn't an issue for the org and there's a reason why, because financially speaking they are on point. They know where not to loose money and where to make it. It's only logical and very expected.
2017-11-04 01:05
#335
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Brazil victor_zion 
indeed, when under contract you have to know exactly wuut u doing, and they think with their asses
2017-11-03 17:04
lol
2017-11-03 16:28
Lol Noah dumb virgin
2017-11-03 16:28
Smarter than you will ever be.
2017-11-03 16:29
he throw away major spot, he is dumb af, also nobody is crazy enough to pay $1m for this trio, they have no respect whatsoever. every org. prolly want to stay as far away from them as possible, toxic!
2017-11-03 17:06
#418
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Turkey pardus 
his players under contract betrayed them and threw away the major spot. and noah whinston isn't selling just a trio. He's selling major spot. If a team buys them, noah profits. If any teams don't buy them, noah takes his revenge by take the trio's major spot.
2017-11-03 17:22
#471
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United States GWEBB 
This. Finally someone understands the $1m is more because you are buying legend status to Boston.
2017-11-03 17:36
#502
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United States _SaltY 
agreed
2017-11-03 17:44
But is the legend status to Boston worth 1 million? Considering that even if they win 1st spot $500k that money si gonna go to the players and not the organization. The organization needs to sell ads for sponsors and merchandise to make profit. They need to estimate the value of the team they create if they can make profit of it or not.
2017-11-04 16:08
Yep
2017-11-03 19:21
#699
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Argentina fhaep 
well, if he wants to sell it too high, he might not sell them, so... they will loose the major spot and the became worthless he is stupid at the end of the day
2017-11-03 20:59
Niko went to faze for 600.000+ asking 1mil for 3 players +major spot is a good price
2017-11-03 23:55
#817
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Argentina fhaep 
its only a good price if someone pays it, if you dont sell it you will be loosing at least 400k, because they will leave for free
2017-11-04 12:04
#49
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Syria fakeflaggot 
why would he be dumb? This is the right move
2017-11-03 16:29
#82
coldzera | 
Brazil wAc 
how is it right, real value is something like 200k, he ask too much will end up with nothing
2017-11-03 16:31
#96
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Syria fakeflaggot 
for a major spot + 3 major finalists 1m$ isnt unreasonable also its prolly just a big fuck you to the trio, which i 100% agree with, fuck them
2017-11-03 16:32
#109
coldzera | 
Brazil wAc 
nobody will buy them for this price, they are not worth it, i don't know how much sticker money a team make from majors but i don't think is that much
2017-11-03 16:34
#116
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Syria fakeflaggot 
I agree, theyre probably just gonna be benched untill contracts are over, but im glad they are, fuck them
2017-11-03 16:35
#130
coldzera | 
Brazil wAc 
losing a lot of money for a personal vendetta is not a smart way to conduct business, maybe he is trying to force them back to immortals.
2017-11-03 16:37
#136
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Syria fakeflaggot 
ur prolly right, its a bad move from noah, but i dislike them so im happy :^)
2017-11-03 16:37
"force them back to immortals" The IMT org already played in the minors quals, so I'm not even sure they could play the major under the org anymore. Anyway, I highly doubt he wants any kind of contact with those players.
2017-11-04 04:40
Right. So you agree Noah is dumb as fuck.
2017-11-03 16:40
#162
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Syria fakeflaggot 
#136
2017-11-03 16:40
#165
Nifty | 
Brazil wIDt 
Nope that would result in a huge wage cost. He will prolly let them go after they lost their major spot
2017-11-03 16:41
I believe thats the idea, they will start from the bottom again. I mean org will think twice about hiring people that have anger issue. If this is football, easy fine few 100k, bench etc.
2017-11-03 17:37
#386
shroud | 
Canada ozboz 
That's the point. He knows no one will pay this price, and if anyone does they are a sucker and he wins. He is purposely setting an unrealistic price to punish the players for their disrespect they have shown to CSGO, their own org, and other players.
2017-11-03 17:15
#271
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Russia vall3n 
Only 2 major finalists, KNG is a free agent right now.
2017-11-03 16:53
#276
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Syria fakeflaggot 
right, they still need the twins for the major spot tho
2017-11-03 16:54
Do you understand how much revenue is brought in for each team for so much as attending majors? Stickers talk. Not to mention you're paying for a potentially top 10 team.
2017-11-03 16:52
#299
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United States Phamous3k 
You’re either an idiot or have never ran a business. When something is in demand you charge a premium. When it’s not in demand u go for a discount. November 10th is the final day to submit a roster for a Major spot. Fuck the sticker Money this is called BRANDING. Joe Blows team will garner tons of awareness to his brand AND receive revenue from the stickers and prize pool. 1 million is the right price. After Nov 10th I would charge them at market value since there’s no major involved. Plus fuck those guys. /thread.
2017-11-03 16:58
#377
coldzera | 
Brazil wAc 
who is joe blows ? what i think is that imt will never manage to sell this guys, they are overrated with a bad reputation, the team would not be invited to any league or tournament and not attract any sponsor, unless the sticker money pays the 1kk its not a good deal
2017-11-03 17:12
Agreed, any brand with little Respect for themselves will not want them, aside from the major spot, if no deal is made until nov 10 they will be picked up by no name brand and will be forgotten in history as they deserve.
2017-11-03 17:22
#577
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United States Phamous3k 
Joe Blow is just slang for any team or org that signs them. Similar to someone saying John Doe. It’s a USA type thing. But it’s not all about sticker money. It’s also about “branding” and selling additional merchandise. Jerseys, mugs, keyboards, etc. branding could lead to larger avenues in business with the right exposure and awareness. Playing in a major with million+ people watching is worth more then 1 million and sticker Money.
2017-11-03 18:19
Finally a guy with a brain
2017-11-03 17:14
#790
coldzera | 
Brazil wAc 
It seems you were right mate, cavaliers about to close them
2017-11-04 03:42
#153
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Brazil Mirekz 
he is dumb because he is hurting his own reputation, first he made a video acting like the nicest CEO in E-Spots made everybody like him saying that he would never hold players hostage and shit, and now that's exactly what he is doing.
2017-11-03 16:39
#206
Nifty | 
Brazil wIDt 
He just want 'em to forfeit the legend status in the same way they are causing the organization to forfeit it by stepping down from the roster. It is pretty fair. Of course as a Brazilian I would love to watch 'em play the major, but is perfectly reasonable what Noah is doing.
2017-11-03 16:45
they're screwing the org of a shit load of $$ though by not fulfilling their contracts and playing under them at the major.
2017-11-03 16:54
#291
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Brazil Mirekz 
doesn't matter, if he wanted to fuck them over then he shouldn't act like a nice guy and say that he would never hold players hostage, thing is, he said one thing, now he is doing the opposite that hurts his reputation for sure.
2017-11-03 16:57
Maybe they shouldn't have acted like the wannabe-gangsterkids they acted like, and instead be professional and mature.
2017-11-03 17:04
#643
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Brazil Mirekz 
1 of the players acted like a ganster and that players isn't even under contract with IMT anymore, the other three players FNX,Lucas1 and Hen1 just wanted to leave because they were not happy with the org.
2017-11-03 19:18
You're just fanboying though, it's not like you can just break contract and leave, if you want esports to be taken seriously, you shouldn't complain about shit like this, the buyout is closer to 600k anyways. Noah is an idiot for saying he wouldn't hold them hostage, but fact of the matter is, they're screwing him out of loads of cash.
2017-11-04 01:18
so he is a nice guy when people are nice to him. but screws people over when people try to screw him over. that kinda sounds like a normal person
2017-11-03 17:30
#642
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Brazil Mirekz 
no, he said that he woulnd't hold them under contract AFTER they "screwed" him over, so he said one thing but did the opposite
2017-11-03 19:16
#796
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Malaysia Level1Cam 
Prove he said that "after" they screwed him over?
2017-11-04 04:51
#799
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Brazil Mirekz 
lol dude he made a fuckin video about it youtube.com/watch?v=EKxKPeQjo4Q
2017-11-04 05:10
#801
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Malaysia Level1Cam 
But they made the org look bad even before this happen Example: G2 vs Immortals Eleague Major Qualifier 2016
2017-11-04 05:47
#834
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Brazil Mirekz 
what are you even talking about
2017-11-04 15:07
Hurting his own repitation lol, u have no clue, his asking prize in fail. Niko cost 500K alone so 3 players plus a major spot 1 mill. more than fair,, retard
2017-11-03 17:15
#800
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Brazil Mirekz 
are you really comparing niko with lucas hen1 and fnx? lmao it's like comparing messi with three good football players.
2017-11-04 05:11
loool
2017-11-03 16:28
No,
2017-11-03 16:28
#9
woxic | 
Turkey CHAMPTZ 
oh lol
2017-11-03 16:28
#10
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India transformer 
Wow
2017-11-03 16:28
#11
Portugal Hkt 
Nice.
2017-11-03 16:28
Expected
2017-11-03 16:28
#13
hek | 
Poland rafiozol 
LOL
2017-11-03 16:28
#14
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Syria fakeflaggot 
NICE FUCK THEM
2017-11-03 16:28
#15
REZ | 
United States skurr 
HAHAHAHA
2017-11-03 16:38
LOL
2017-11-03 16:28
ahahahahaha
2017-11-03 16:28
Lul
2017-11-03 16:28
HAHAHAHAHA nice
2017-11-03 16:28
HAHAHAHAHAH WHAT THE FUCK
2017-11-03 16:28
LOL delusional as fak
2017-11-03 16:28
#22
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Portugal dracø 
ez lockdown get fucked bitches
2017-11-03 16:28
#23
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Bulgaria p1mpiN 
wtf
2017-11-03 16:28
#24
k0nfig | 
France ponche 
AXAXAAX get rekt
2017-11-03 16:28
#25
Estonia rYm 
what?
2017-11-03 16:28
ahahahha this is a joke LOL immt are shit ...
2017-11-03 16:29
#27
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Greenland Ran0 
Lul
2017-11-03 16:28
#28
ZywOo | 
Latvia `DinGo 
HAHAHAHAHAHA THIS IS A FUCKING JOKE THEY ARE NOT WORTH THAT MUCH LMAAAAAAAAAAO
2017-11-03 16:28
he's asking 300k more for what he paid for the entire team back in 2016
2017-11-03 16:32
#97
ZywOo | 
Latvia `DinGo 
lucas1 and kng are way better than hen1
2017-11-03 16:32
lol what a fucking moron
2017-11-03 16:28
#204
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Brazil coldzao 
+1 what cs has became... no honor only money in his brain
2017-11-03 16:44
No honor ? What about what they did in the first place tho?
2017-11-03 16:47
#238
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Brazil coldzao 
havent you missed school/work atleast once in your life because you didnt woke up? same shit actually thats a manager's issue, because he controls all his players what they do and shit, HES ORGANIZING THEM
2017-11-03 16:48
#326
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Iran 50BMG 
Comparing missing school to drinking before finals and not arriving. BR logic at its finest
2017-11-03 17:02
#340
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Brazil coldzao 
and wasnt confirmed that they were drinking typical CIS brain believes in everything (first single fking source)
2017-11-03 17:04
#346
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Iran 50BMG 
Nt now go climb up your tree
2017-11-03 17:05
#620
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Brazil supervillain 
CIS brain...go fuck your sister and drink your vodka
2017-11-03 18:51
#654
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Iran 50BMG 
Ayy br talking about incest huehuehue.
2017-11-03 19:33
#797
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Malaysia Level1Cam 
Better than BR brain
2017-11-04 04:55
lol
2017-11-03 17:24
#385
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Norway HIPHOPPER 
you must be one of the smartest ppl on here, first off all "no honor" well he shows some honor while he gives a shit on those 2 retards who couldnt imagine the outcome whats going to happen after they screwed their contracts. You are always the one who suffers if you interact the wrong way as a contracter but of course those retards without education cant tell. They fuck up big time and think they doing right and just go on and play the next major and everything is fine right? Thats like im contracted to a football club give a shit on my agreements and my contract and just leave after 3 games and join the next Club.
2017-11-03 17:15
#391
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Brazil coldzao 
pointless to discuss with you you dont even know what managers roles within a team if they were norwegian you would defend them thats all about you fucking hypocryte, hate people like you good like in your pathetic fake life
2017-11-03 17:16
#421
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Norway HIPHOPPER 
yeah as a CEO of my company its my job to control the behaviour of 3 grownups, meanwhile 2 players of 5 behave like normal human beings. Meanwhile the other half of the group is unable to speak english cant behave on social media and lacks of grownup behaviour. And thx i love the fake life we live in norway, unlucko we get like -25degrees so living in a tin hut isnt possible HEHE
2017-11-03 17:22
#436
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Brazil coldzao 
"is unable to speak english" facepalm theres a manager in the team for a reason to MANAGE PLAYERS
2017-11-03 17:26
#451
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Norway HIPHOPPER 
theres a coach to fullfill that job
2017-11-03 17:28
#623
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Brazil supervillain 
no you dumb cunt, a coach coaches and a manager manages
2017-11-03 18:53
#696
ARTeMis | 
Australia zebO 
What does a mamager do in football? ;)
2017-11-03 20:43
#689
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Bolivia Luchingador 
once, certainly not twice, on the same day, and i dont get payed to go to school.
2017-11-03 20:30
ye its crazy noone will ever pay that much money no matter for who 1 million+ for 3 guys thats about 330k+ per player i think its more a punishment for him to them so noone will ever buy them and they are stuck in that org holy shit thats pretty crazy man theyre carriers are pretty much done
2017-11-03 16:50
#409
shroud | 
Canada ozboz 
What? This is the honor move and not the money move. If Noah wanted money he would have done what the benched players want. Kick boltz/steel and keep the major spot for sticker money. He is literally choosing honor over money. Are you trolling?
2017-11-03 17:20
#417
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Brazil coldzao 
"keep the major spot for sticker money" how would he kept it with 0/5 players of the major roster NA showing their knowledge at cs once again he kicked kNg and said he wont be 'working' with him again so thats -3 players already and youre suggesting kicking the remaining 2
2017-11-03 17:23
#448
shroud | 
Canada ozboz 
You are a moron. I'm talking about before Noah made that video. If IMM only wanted money, they would have kept KNG, HEN1 and Lucas (3 players) and kicked boltz/steel. (What the other players wanted). They would have kept their spot = more money for IMM.
2017-11-03 17:28
#458
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Brazil coldzao 
youre assuming he knew the twins will leave after kng's kick he thought he would keep the 4/5 players and pick 5th while zakk is playing for them, but they refused to play, how would he knew that?
2017-11-03 17:30
#482
shroud | 
Canada ozboz 
Still referring to further back, before the KNG kick. The twins made it clear that they wanted to play with KNG and not boltz/steel. (Before the kick). He knew what the players on the team wanted, if it was known to us, it was sure as hell known to him. If it was about money, he would not have kicked KNG in the first place. It was about honor to Noah, hence why he kicked KNG. You claim Noah is Money>Honor, but he did the exact opposite.
2017-11-03 17:38
#493
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Brazil coldzao 
okay but anyway some orgs SOMETIMES are just letting their players go but he's asking enormous amount of money.. im not saying he shouldve done that, but thats what i would call an honor, not asking for $1mil
2017-11-03 17:41
#506
shroud | 
Canada ozboz 
Yes it is an unrealistic price. He is punishing the players for their disrespect. He knows no one will pay that, and if anyone does they are a moron and he gets free money. If it was about money he would have set a more reasonable price. Any pro org, doesn't just let players go for free especially if they are going to be disrespectful to your org.
2017-11-03 17:45
#670
Hiko | 
Brazil leobrx 
Sorry bro, im brazilian too and I would never protect fnx and the brothers. They are high skilled players, but they lack commitment. They are not 15 yo boys. They are grownup man and they dont need a coach to manage them. They need to have commitment with their team since they get paid for it. Just look at boltz and steelga. They have discipline and commitment, they dont need a coach to wake em up before a match. I know we will never know who's right and who's wrong in this shit, but they act like they dont have any education and no commitment with their team. One thing I knew since the beggining of this shit: Noah wouldnt let em go so easily, and now he is out for revenge.
2017-11-03 19:53
#31
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Brazil BuddyINSANE 
Fair enough for me... Good luck Noah! We smart, we loyal, we friendly, we are from BRAZIL! Kreygasm
2017-11-03 16:29
IMT PULLING OUT A NIKO LUL
2017-11-03 16:28
reasonable price tbh - 3 star players that come with a spot in the major KAPPA
2017-11-03 16:29
300k$ for 1 favela is too much lol, especially that without good igl they wont do anything
2017-11-03 16:30
2017-11-03 16:31
LUL >.<
2017-11-03 16:39
2017-11-03 16:44
:-o
2017-11-03 16:29
#36
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Norway SkaMathias 
They will be stuck in the organization forever
2017-11-03 16:29
#37
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Estonia Naturaal 
Small loan needed
2017-11-03 16:29
#38
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Spain JasonRacism 
Immortals joke org
2017-11-03 16:29
#39
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Germany zeolikk 
SAVAGE NOAH
2017-11-03 16:29
#42
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Argentina EnvyJ 
WTF LOL
2017-11-03 16:29
Yey, fuck these dumb party kids with no honor.
2017-11-03 16:29
#647
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Brazil coldzao 
2017-11-03 19:22
#798
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Malaysia Level1Cam 
Why would he be mad?
2017-11-04 04:59
#874
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Europe Hempxz 
honor>all
2017-11-07 12:29
loooool :DDDD they are not that much
2017-11-03 16:29
#45
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Europe Markss 
Deserved
2017-11-03 16:29
Lul
2017-11-03 16:29
#47
SmithZz | 
Australia Kyr0xZ 
LMAO HAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHA what even
2017-11-03 16:29
#48
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Finland raivokkuus 
Wow, the ex-IMT guys are really getting punished for their behavior here. They deserved to be taught a lesson, but missing out on a major they were entitled to a spot in, not being allowed to join a team that can compete in one, and potentially not even getting to play with the lineup they wanted in the first place? Imo this is too harsh.
2017-11-03 16:30
#86
sergej | 
Ireland MP0P 
nope, they completely fucked over immortals, noah doing good shit here
2017-11-03 16:32
#117
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Italy Div-\ 
In real life they would have lost their job, here they'll lose their major spot, it's kinda fair. Plus after the major lock they will be sold for maybe 1/3 of the price and they'll get to play under another org, it does not seem like the end of the world to me.
2017-11-03 16:35
#138
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Finland raivokkuus 
They did kinda lose their job when they were benched - it's even harsher because they weren't allowed to leave and "find a new job". I think, like you say, that a professional esports contract shouldn't be different from a professional work contract; and therefore the aforementioned punishment was appropriate. I'm not outraged at this or anything, I just can't help but feel bad for the trio here. :/
2017-11-03 16:38
#151
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Italy Div-\ 
Mmm I think that missing the major is the real punishment here. They will find another job after they truly lose the major, that's what I think is losing a job for them. It would have been to easy for them to attend the major as if nothing had happened.
2017-11-03 16:39
#229
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Finland raivokkuus 
Yeah, I guess you're right. I doubt anybody will pay that much for a major spot in the space of a week. I guess what I find really harsh is that once they don't attend this major, they'll become much more undesirable as a team since their lack of professionalism will no longer be outweighed by the fact that they're guaranteed a major spot. People won't want to hire them, move them to NA, deal with the bad publicity, etc - when they're not even guaranteed to attend the most prestigious event of the year. I don't know what the trio are gonna do, but I only see a dark future for them.
2017-11-03 16:46
#236
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Italy Div-\ 
Nah, for sure there has to be an org willing to hire them. They will have to grind their way back to major tournaments, but I think that their journey into esports is far than over.
2017-11-03 16:48
#266
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Finland raivokkuus 
I don't like the trio as people at all, but I hope you're right. Would be a shame to let their talent go to waste permanently.
2017-11-03 16:52
#274
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Italy Div-\ 
I agree, let's hope they grow up.
2017-11-03 16:53
This is by far the most moderated discussion. Two European gentlemen having a calm discussion while drinking tea.
2017-11-04 07:37
They are still getting paid by immortals.
2017-11-03 17:10
#466
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Brazil kolp13 
if i were one of the players (ex-immortals) arrested by contract, as soon as he lowered the price of the fine, i would resist the negotiations, thus causing the organization to pay until the contract is over (ie the organization would be forced to pay employees who are not working) and after the contract runs out i would look for an organization and then the immortals would not receive 1 cent by the players as a retribution to what Noah is doing
2017-11-03 17:35
#808
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Italy Div-\ 
You'd lose your major spot though...
2017-11-04 09:11
#50
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China vuning 
lol
2017-11-03 16:29
#53
swag | 
Switzerland d^b 
deserved
2017-11-03 16:29
i fully support noah's stance here, fuck them little bitches
2017-11-03 16:29
Dont know why, but i cant avoid keep reading your coment with frank gallagher's voice
2017-11-03 17:44
LOL, think of spud from Trainspotting and you'll be spot on
2017-11-03 17:45
I am Modesty off
2017-11-03 18:22
#55
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Armenia cGev 
Lmao
2017-11-03 16:29
#56
jks | 
Vietnam kdwang 
noah dogging the bois cuz riot dogged him. rip
2017-11-03 16:30
#58
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Turkey W10 
rip
2017-11-03 16:29
LOL Dumb CEO doesn't want to spend money on other players, think its to expensive. But when its time to sell his players, he asks for $1M.. Fuck Noah, that hypocrite ahole
2017-11-03 16:29
#75
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Syria fakeflaggot 
wtf lol they dont HAVE money to spend on other players, and for a major spot + 3 major finalists 1m$ isnt unreasonable
2017-11-03 16:31
Hen1+lucas1 are 2/3 to hold major spot. KngV is not in the bundle therefore its a very high price. Dick move by Noah.. and they dont have money imt are broke. Steel fucked them up so bad...
2017-11-03 16:44
#216
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Syria fakeflaggot 
im glad, fuck them :^)
2017-11-03 16:45
Nah man fuck you. Those were accusations he turned up on them steel is a snitch. Villamix all the way
2017-11-03 16:46
#230
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Syria fakeflaggot 
hmu when u grow up
2017-11-03 16:46
Im sure im older than you by at least 40 years. Damn leftie, innocent until proved guilty. Personality rights motherfucker pipe down
2017-11-03 16:49
#254
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Syria fakeflaggot 
get help
2017-11-03 16:50
Give me my diagnosis doctor Ur so lame..
2017-11-03 16:52
#270
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Syria fakeflaggot 
Are you sure you're >58yrs?
2017-11-03 16:53
What im sure is that you lack sympathy, respect, wisdom, a few inches down there and quite possibly a sociopathic behaviour
2017-11-03 16:57
#293
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Syria fakeflaggot 
HAHAHAHAHA
2017-11-03 16:58
You fell for it so hard... Get some help asap
2017-11-03 16:59
#306
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Syria fakeflaggot 
0/8 nt pedofile, go back to ur retirement home
2017-11-03 17:00
8/8 because youre such an imbecile you didnt even see the acctual bait. And enjoy working for 50 more years!
2017-11-03 17:01
#333
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Syria fakeflaggot 
What makes you think im gonna work for 50 yrs :^)? If anyone is an imbecile, its you, hltv.org/forums/threads/1023651/wallet-c..
2017-11-03 17:03
58-40 is 18 pension is around 65. That quite alot of work to do. Thank you for visiting my profile. Fortunatelly nothing was scammed just wanted to good people of hltv to report this guy. Anyways kid i gotta go.. some adult stuff u cant know about! Have a lovely saturday you fucking creep!
2017-11-03 17:06
#551
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Syria fakeflaggot 
Have a lovely saturday you fucking creep! its friday ur the pedo here
2017-11-03 18:07
They deserve this.
2017-11-03 17:01
#497
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Brazil kolp13 
if i were one of the players (ex-immortals) arrested by contract, as soon as he lowered the price of the fine, i would resist the negotiations, thus causing the organization to pay until the contract is over (ie the organization would be forced to pay employees who are not working) and after the contract runs out i would look for an organization and then the immortals would not receive 1 cent by the players as a retribution to what Noah is doing
2017-11-03 17:43
I agree, that's the smartest thing they would do. But, they're not that smart
2017-11-03 17:44
#527
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Brazil kolp13 
well, it depends a lot more of their patience (in my view), because the time they would wait at the maximum would be 4 months to disengage from the organization (at least that's the expectation of when the contracts will end)
2017-11-03 17:56
Very true!
2017-11-03 18:02
#60
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Poland Djdawidosik 
Thats sad for the trio
2017-11-03 16:29
hhhahhahahhahhaha rip
2017-11-03 16:30
#65
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Finland Emvi 
Nice, get fucked rofl
2017-11-03 16:31
#66
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Romania Tise 
Eat shit, KNG
2017-11-03 16:30
#67
sergej | 
Ireland MP0P 
FUK EM
2017-11-03 16:30
#68
f0rest | 
Serbia dankooo 
1 million zimbabwe dollars
2017-11-03 16:30
OMEGALUL In Uganda that's 1 billion ugandian money
2017-11-03 16:55
Zamunda
2017-11-03 17:49
gg LUL
2017-11-03 16:30
get fucked, heni, lucas and kng fully deserve this.
2017-11-03 16:30
LUL worth
2017-11-03 16:30
#73
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Brazil hotdog^ 
NUCK FOAH
2017-11-03 16:30
#74
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Poland ScR1337 
Well played, so much respect to IMM now :D
2017-11-03 16:31
#432
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Albania Heavon 
Typical Polish skinheads with your average 14 IQs..
2017-11-03 17:25
#76
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Brazil mrschagas 
HAHAHAHAHAHA
2017-11-03 16:31
get fucked villamix AHAHAHHA
2017-11-03 16:31
#78
shox | 
France F4KER 
hahahahahha nice joke
2017-11-03 16:31
#79
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Sweden Rexz 
hahahaha
2017-11-03 16:31
#84
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India nicebaitm8 
Why buyout lol ? He handled situation poorly and now for damage control, wants to set impossible terms lol. Just wait till the exhaustion of contracts and walkout for free. close/
2017-11-03 16:32
#156
smooya | 
United Kingdom Kripps 
he handled everything perfectly, yet his players decided to fuck him over. and $1m isn't that much for 3 good players and a major spot
2017-11-03 16:40
#182
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India nicebaitm8 
He acted like a hero, the supreme who tolerates zero bullshit. All KnG did was an idiotic, no brainer tweet. A strong apology would've solved everything.
2017-11-03 16:42
Yep, I don't forgive Noah. He should have tried harder.
2017-11-03 17:55
Wise words. Very true.
2017-11-03 18:22
Exactly. He said something stupid in the heat of the moment. People acted like he was going to truly murder the other dude, how stupid can this be?
2017-11-03 19:34
#660
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Australia enspia 
They missed a LAN match. Then he threatened to kill someone. Then he played an official match while being told he was suspended. Let's not play this off as one isolated incident to over value your argument.
2017-11-03 19:39
#667
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India nicebaitm8 
Yep you have a point. They made a mistake and got punished. But in one match when a standin was needed kng asked his manager whether he could fill in. He was permitted to play and Noah over reacted to this and every thing just collapsed. Had they discussed in person and solved everything after the fiasco it would've been way better but instead they choose Twitter diplomacy. Now guess what fnx and bit1 are the winners here and steel is losing the most.
2017-11-03 19:47
#669
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India nicebaitm8 
Don't forget how much pressure Noah will face now from investors. No LCS spot. No major any more. No tournament invites. Losing boltz to sk. Even luminosity players are refusing to join IMT. Steel might leave imt too after major.
2017-11-03 19:51
#87
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Israel sbd123 
got what they deserved
2017-11-03 16:32
noah diggin his own grave with his t4 team
2017-11-03 16:32
IMT retarded? they want to wait till the contract expires and just lose money? well if you shoot in your own foot trying to punish somebody else you're a retard I guess.
2017-11-03 16:32
#161
smooya | 
United Kingdom Kripps 
even if no one buys them, it fucks the players over, which is pretty fair considering how they treated the org
2017-11-03 16:40
#371
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Armenia Imissexoptic 
+1
2017-11-03 17:10
#310
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Ukraine w1nthoil 
lmao are you retarded? If noone buyes them, they go to the Major and earn part of sticker money and a fraction of prize money. If someone does buy 'em, they get 1mil for new players and org development. How the fuck are they losing money? nt though WarCountry
2017-11-03 17:00
Lol they will never go to the major. they are under contract. how stupid are u? Or are u talking about the org?? either way u arestupid an have missed the entire point lol
2017-11-03 17:40
They won't go to Major with benched players, 3/5 of the team must be active, so don't call others retarded if you don't know a shit
2017-11-03 17:41
#91
steel | 
Belarus Ruble 
Well deserved stay out of this scene
2017-11-03 16:32
200IQ play by Noah
2017-11-03 16:32
+1
2017-11-03 16:42
#196
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Brazil Mirekz 
actually quite dumb by him since he made a video saying that he would never hold players hostage under contract if they didn't feel confortable playing under his org, now he is contradicting himself and doing exactly what he said that wouldn't do.
2017-11-03 16:43
#336
fer | 
Brazil gphziN 
well but they deserved it
2017-11-03 17:04
No he is not lol. totally fair price 2 time fajor winner fnx twins major finalists + a major spot. more than fair.
2017-11-03 17:41
no, noah haven't the major spot anymore, since kng get kicked, is just lucas and hen, 2/3
2017-11-07 19:49
#676
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Denmark SK2Strong 
Ohh yes, really smart!!! Now IMT CS:GO are tier 3 and he'll have no profit with trio after they lost Legend stats. VERY SMART!!!
2017-11-03 20:01
Du fatter meget ironi lmao
2017-11-03 20:38
finally a smart comment. after they lost legend stats, they price would fall.
2017-11-07 19:51
k
2017-11-03 16:32
It's a nice way to teach them how to behave when you're paid to be a pro player and to represent a banner. You can't just act like you're a rock&roll queen and expect to go away with it without any punishments. Totally with Immortals CEO at the moment. It's a shame for the scene but they'll learn from it.
2017-11-03 16:32
#129
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Italy Div-\ 
+1
2017-11-03 16:37
+1
2017-11-03 16:42
they'll learn from it? i don't think so. They are brazilians after all
2017-11-03 16:48
Yeah but the problem is his current roster won't make the Major anyways so setting that high of a buyout when his organization is financially unstable according to investor reports is unwise. He should have set a more reasonable buyout at 750,000. Let them be bought out and play in the major, his roster won't make it anyways, take the money and rebuild. His vendetta against these guys is going to cost him A) a lot of money and B) ruin his reputation amongst the CS community, a lot of players will be scared to sign with his org after how he treated these players, whether they deserved it or not.
2017-11-03 16:52
Financially speaking you're right, but maybe he's doing this just before their contracts are expiring ? Like a one shot call. And if it doesn't work then they'll be free anyway after this major. If it works he gets a lot of money and if not then he'll teach them a good lesson. I'm not sure people are afraid of this org just because its players failed to represent it with integrity. Also I think 1m for three players of this caliber is a good offer. Especially knowing that they will be at the next major, they'll get some of that money back + all the marketing they can do around them. One thing that could cost their future org is that maybe sponsors are a bit reluctant to sponsor these kind of players and looking at the response from the community about these players, even the community isn't too fan of them now. These guys have really fucked up...
2017-11-03 17:22
U are so wrong, his rep will be much better. u are retarded like most of hltv with no clue how the real world works
2017-11-03 17:44
Actually, like most of the Danes you are just so convinced that your point of view is correct that you ignore all others. The fact of the matter is the only circle in which Whinston will gain respect is amongst fellow Organization owners. Players talk and keeping them in contract jail will heavily affect his reputation and his ability to further procure talent in the CS:GO scene. Don't believe me? I would wager that Immortals will not get a single high profile signing to round out their roster and they are currently below Luminosity in the Pro League rankings. So you tell me, hows the future of Immortals CS:GO looking?
2017-11-03 18:44
My point is that the contract jail u are talking about is not true. he is asking a fair price notnng more. u just see the number 1 mill an think woow. considering the current state of cs thats a fair price. eod
2017-11-03 18:49
"It's a nice way to teach them how to behave" WTF, are you stupid? They are still earning alot of money from immortals. This is like a mega vacation where you are still getting paid, and i'm sure this team is not crazy about the major spot since they can easily be in the next one lol
2017-11-03 17:23
They don't care about the salary, they want to be able to compete and do whatever they want. At the moment they can't sign for any other team nor compete until they are released from their contract or just bought out. And you come here telling me that I'm stupid ? Ok then!
2017-11-04 03:21
Calm down my friend. If you look at the pattern, pretty much every Brazilian is supporting the trio no matter what you say. Most of them used ad hominem to win the argument though.
2017-11-04 07:47
Calm down my friend. If you look at the pattern, pretty much every Brazilian is supporting the trio no matter what you say. Most of them used ad hominem to win the argument though.
2017-11-04 07:46
Very nice Noah, gj! This will teach them.
2017-11-03 16:34
This will teach them to not work with a scumbag like Noah in a future c:
2017-11-03 17:37
k mankey
2017-11-03 17:57
man with a key?
2017-11-03 18:20
#99
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Poland Marcines 
haha, nice job!
2017-11-03 16:33
LUL
2017-11-03 16:33
#103
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Belgium KevinGatesYo 
LMFAO gonna end up without a single penny HAHAHAHAHAHAH
2017-11-03 16:33
And rip legend status for the mankeys
2017-11-03 16:34
#141
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Italy Div-\ 
IMT will sell Boltz to sk for a very high buyout I guess, and after the lock they can set the buyout for the trio for about 300K...
2017-11-03 16:38
Not in 7 days....
2017-11-03 16:39
#155
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Italy Div-\ 
True but IMT doesn't seem to be in a hurry...
2017-11-03 16:39
Clearly Noah just wants them to lose the seat at the major. Then sell for 300k.
2017-11-03 16:42
#200
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Italy Div-\ 
Yeah, I think it's fair tbh. If they played the major they would not have been punished for their unprofessional behaviour.
2017-11-03 16:43
They fucked with him and now, he fuck them back. Simple like that
2017-11-03 16:46
Actually he just double fucked himself
2017-11-03 17:25
How? How much is their salary? 10k? FNX + Hen1 + Lucas1 = 30k Month = 360k Year. That is if he did not lower their salary by being on the bench. Expect to pass Major's inscriptions and then pass them by 400k / 500k. ez life
2017-11-03 17:43
400k? LuL. Bro i don't know about the twins contract but fnx will be free in december. They will just wait and maybe some org will pay for them after the major but nothing around 400k
2017-11-03 17:50
Okay, they're going to lose the seat in the major just the same. He has money to pay his salary there ... Wake up guys, the guy did not fuck. He is not even there. He still taught the brats a lesson. Friends, friends, business apart. Totally unethical and stupid of twins.
2017-11-03 17:54
Well this is not worth from a CEO point of view. But wharever, i'm sure that this team can make it to another major without any problem. The question is that the org fucked up when they bring horvy and make the players feel "betrayed", and now imt.csgo is fucked because of bad management. I Think they should just hire another CEO and try to rebuild, they just got fucked in the lol scene to
2017-11-03 17:58
That Noah made some bad choices, I agree. Now, this little story of thinking you were betrayed by hiring horvy ?! Dude, spoiled kids who are scared to lose the place or be without the little friend, as they demonstrated.
2017-11-03 18:02
"betrayed" bro, with "", they are stupid ofc, but it was rly bad decisions from management
2017-11-03 18:04
Sad for both sides... "O Idiota" e "Os crianção"
2017-11-03 18:06
#104
f0rest | 
Germany sleezy 
I hope they lose their spot
2017-11-03 16:33
#105
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South Africa Hasslegg 
Ez
2017-11-03 16:34
Lmao
2017-11-03 16:34
#107
f0rest | 
Portugal KSED 
I love everything about this
2017-11-03 16:34
Izi 1M for the 3
2017-11-03 16:34
Nop!
2017-11-03 16:38
WTF Nigga now i see, its much money.
2017-11-03 16:42
Clearly Noah just wants them to lose the seat at the major. Then sell for 300k.
2017-11-03 16:43
#110
steel | 
Brazil Jrdm 
Sell them all, and disband immortals after that
2017-11-03 16:34
When do their contratcs end?
2017-11-03 16:34
not in 7 days for sure
2017-11-03 16:35
ty for info
2017-11-03 16:45
#187
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Brazil davidzor 
According to some reports, it seems FNX's contract ends in december, the twins expire only in 2018
2017-11-03 16:42
Good. These apes needs to learn some respect and not fuck over the org that has given them everything. Hope they miss the major.
2017-11-03 16:34
Oh I developed a salt mine here!
2017-11-03 17:36
I'm bathing in salt from all the Brazilians so satisfying
2017-11-03 17:37
But it's not healthy for you
2017-11-03 17:38
Pretty low imo
2017-11-03 16:35
So...What I see here is a CEO who now is making himself and his organization look like hypocrites. Listen to the video when he talks about what is more important to him and now he is doing this...Noah flipping the page on himself again. Expected from a CEO...they are like politicians. He thought the trio wouldn't have any offers and now they do so he is going to be the smaller person in the situation
2017-11-03 16:35
#163
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United Kingdom StigOHara 
"Expected from a CEO...they are like politicians." Uh not really, try again
2017-11-03 16:40
#241
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Brazil Mirekz 
yea. exactly what i thought, first he makes a video and say that he would never hold players hostage under contract and now that's exactly what he is doing.
2017-11-03 16:49
i don't think so, hen1 and lucas1 fucked up IMT csgo team. So you expect Noah to go easy on them? it doesn't make sense.
2017-11-03 16:59
If that is how you view it. CEO is the one who kicked kng and most likely knew the consequences. This has nothing to do about going easy on them. Should he get money in return? Absolutely, but asking that price is just him being greedy. I in no way agree with what kng did or the way the twins handled themselves in the situation either. I am saying that he made a video stating this wouldn't happen and now look. Who is the hypocrite now? And obviously Boltz was already leaving as well which would have messed the team up without any of this extra curricular activity happening
2017-11-03 17:12
he knew the consequences. but still is hen1 and lucas1 fault for the problem that IMT is facing right now. knowing the consequences don't change anything. Kng fucked up the team and got kicked. and hen1 and lucas1 made everything even worse. and boltz is only leaving because of this situation, don't talk shit
2017-11-03 19:42
#446
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Albania Heavon 
> Americans > Not Hypocrites
2017-11-03 17:27
hypocrites how? 1m for 3 players and a major spot seems reasonable to me, in a world where you sell Niko alone for 500k.
2017-11-03 23:40
They will probably just wait until contract ends
2017-11-03 16:35
#128
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Brazil HOM3RR 
And loss the spot.
2017-11-03 16:36
Yeah but no one will actually pay 1m$ for them so
2017-11-03 16:37
Good. They deserve it
2017-11-03 16:39
#172
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Brazil HOM3RR 
They are not professionals. I hope they miss the spot.
2017-11-03 16:41
#120
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Venezuela LimitlessEXP 
LUL the immortals JACKPOT
2017-11-03 16:35
#121
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Brazil lleonciocs 
And people were speculating 400k lol fucking deserved it
2017-11-03 16:35
#122
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Australia basim 
Well by doing this either he wins or no one wins xD
2017-11-03 16:35
Holy shieeeeet I think mr ceo is just trying to make them lose their spot. I like the way he thinks.
2017-11-03 16:35
#125
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Brazil HOM3RR 
Noah S2 Nice haha
2017-11-03 16:36
At least we're moving out from the days of actual scumbags holding players to terrible contracts... Counter-Strike is a business not a charity. You do the dirty, you get done dirty.
2017-11-03 16:37
Noah fucked their asses! They will not play any major! No one will pay that amount for them! HAiouHAOiuHAOuihOIUahoUIahAIuhouh
2017-11-03 16:36
except their contracts will be up and they can compete in a major again?
2017-11-06 18:09
No time for this man
2017-11-06 19:21
This is called brain dead Brazil. Losing their spot + not allowing players to get their spot. But, the deal is juicy, except that it should have been done atleast 15 days back.
2017-11-03 16:37
ahahaha I LOVE IT! great stuff Noah! Fuck those guys.
2017-11-03 16:37
fnx gona give Neymar a call. problem solved.
2017-11-03 16:37
#282
liTTle | 
CIS Dowa) 
still 2/5 legend players if hen1,lucas, fnx for sale
2017-11-03 16:55
S1mple is too toxic
2017-11-03 17:49
#135
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Australia PoissonRouge 
Imagine the terrible rep any org who buys them will get
2017-11-03 16:37
people really think $1m is too high, thats how much esports is now, these guys are your one way ticket to getting into the major > sticker money > everyone sees your brand > happy sponsors. you buying out 3x contracts not just one. also FNX is under contract too.
2017-11-03 16:37
#184
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Italy Div-\ 
Well it's a risky investment cause you gotta buyout Bit aswell and the cost of building the team can turn up to be 1.5MLN, and what if they behave the same way they did with IMT? They are not professional so if I were an org CEO I wouldn't be so certain to spend such a high amount of money on them...
2017-11-03 16:42
" what if they behave the same way they did with IMT?" New org maybe asking them to delete their tweets if they do so would help, most orgs do that anyway but immortals apparently didnt
2017-11-03 23:56
its not that much, FNX is legend from 1.6 and the twins are rising stars
2017-11-03 16:38
#142
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Brazil gabriezz1 
KKKKKKK Nice one Noah. really liked this. They fucked with u know u fuck with them. Hahahah Noah for president
2017-11-03 16:38
+1
2017-11-03 16:41
#143
crank | 
Poland WITAM 
Thank mr NOAH. You are a very HONORABLE person.
2017-11-03 16:38
Well done Noah, get fucking rekt bunch of unprofessional apes
2017-11-03 16:38
Get rekt unthankful and unprofessional fags
2017-11-03 16:39
#149
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Brazil mth^ 
LMAO
2017-11-03 16:39
#152
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Sweden 133665 
Good for Noah fuck those immature kids. Good punishment that might make them think Plus he makes some good money to potentially rebuild his team
2017-11-03 16:39
+1
2017-11-03 16:40
just wait the contracts end leavet for free
2017-11-03 16:40
#164
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Brazil davidzor 
He really fucked them in the ass
2017-11-03 16:40
#169
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Sweden lagcats 
1mill LUL
2017-11-03 16:41
Kinda expected. Noah bought into the Overwatch League, I guess it was 20.000.000$ buyin. Because of that IMT lost their League of Legends spot & now he wants a bit of cash back for the trio. Pretty obv. Its not about holding them hostage its about making up for their loss in other games.
2017-11-03 16:41
#171
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United Kingdom StigOHara 
ez
2017-11-03 16:41
OMG FREE THEM WHAT DID THEY DO WRONG? ONE DEATH THREAT AND HE DESTROYS THEIR CARREERS OMG NOAH.... NOAH TO SOON BE DEAD BY BRAZILIAN HITMAN
2017-11-03 16:41
#179
Nodios | 
Liechtenstein diosf 
kkkkkkk rofl
2017-11-03 16:42
i send death threats to people everyday and when it happens to someone that cries about everything it is world news and the person should be punished...
2017-11-03 16:50
#430
shroud | 
Canada ozboz 
The difference is you aren't a pro representing an org, no one cares what you do, no offence. And they did more then death threats.
2017-11-03 17:24
#175
Nodios | 
Liechtenstein diosf 
Foah fucked Filla Fix so Fard
2017-11-03 16:42
#176
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Brazil vass28 
they will leave for free at the end of contract and noah will never have a good team again stay with zqk LUL
2017-11-03 16:42
#190
Nodios | 
Liechtenstein diosf 
KKKKK Major spot gone, Maybe next one.
2017-11-03 16:42
#195
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Brazil vass28 
they are young, 20 or 21 years old, so ...
2017-11-03 16:43
#203
Nodios | 
Liechtenstein diosf 
Theyr livers r not soo young anymore =/
2017-11-03 16:44
#211
Nodios | 
Liechtenstein diosf 
Se eu fosse o dono do villa mix, eu investia
2017-11-03 16:44
#556
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Brazil vass28 
KKKK
2017-11-03 18:10
Noah is so dumb geez, nobody is gonna pay this price
2017-11-03 16:42
Actually you are the dumb here
2017-11-03 16:45
tbh 1 mil might seem like a lot for normal people but a normal org has it ez
2017-11-03 16:51
I cant see any org paying this price, i hope im wrong
2017-11-03 16:57
pretty much every decent org can buy them out but they might lose money... so it wouldnt be the smartest move
2017-11-03 16:58
#178
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Finland Juvi 
WP Noah, very nice move :D
2017-11-03 16:42
How is it nice? No one is gonna pay it.
2017-11-03 16:43
He had to try it considering he paid 20.000.000 for the Overwatch League Spot & lost his League of Legends spot because of that.
2017-11-03 16:44
#223
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Finland Juvi 
At least he gets to freeze those three idiots whom backstabbed the org
2017-11-03 16:45
Right, how is it nice? hes losing a lot of money lol
2017-11-03 16:49
#302
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Finland Juvi 
He is intelligent man he knows what to do.
2017-11-03 16:59
#564
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Sweden mrarrogant 
spending $20 million into pro team for a game with 30k viewers is not so intelligent. many investors will get fucked when the esport bubble bursts. even 1.6 had 30k viewers and the pro players barely survived on their salaries rofl
2017-11-03 18:15
Nowadays people are a lot more willing to fork out for merch
2017-11-04 08:42
What money is he losing?
2017-11-03 17:02
If trio loses major spot, they will just wait until contract expired. So he loses money from their buyout.
2017-11-03 17:28
You can't lose what you never had... Regardless, he doesn't want them to be bought out. He wants to wait until after the major, then sell them for cheaper, and he'll get the money they're worth, but by fucking them over at the same time with no major spot
2017-11-03 17:31
Why never had? I'm sure he has real offers on his table right now. He won't sell them after major, they won't be under contract and become a free agents. Dunno, mate, it all looks like blind revenge, and not like wise management. I hope they can decide all the things peacefully for both sides.
2017-11-03 17:34
He never had the 1 million in the first place. So, he can't lose it. Yes, he will sell them for cheaper after the major. It is only logical.
2017-11-03 17:37
paying the bench players + not getting anything until their contracts end?
2017-11-03 17:29
Read 459
2017-11-03 17:31
exactly...they are practicing and preparing on his dime and he will most likely receive nothing now. Didn't he mention integrity of his org and look at it failing right in front us
2017-11-06 18:15
#194
Nodios | 
Liechtenstein diosf 
Foah fucking the friends
2017-11-03 16:43
What if they decide to play major without an org? What will stop them?
2017-11-03 16:42
They cant.
2017-11-03 16:43
Why can't they? They can't sign contracts with another org but I'm pretty sure they can play tournaments just like a mix without org.
2017-11-03 16:45
Pretty sure they have it in their contract.
2017-11-03 16:44
#197
Nodios | 
Liechtenstein diosf 
VALVE
2017-11-03 16:43
#198
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Brazil hotdog^ 
curious about this too. Can't they just fly themselves there and play?
2017-11-03 16:43
#217
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World smash143 
Immortals can sue them for a breach in contract.
2017-11-03 16:45
#232
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Brazil davidzor 
They can't play without an org because they are tied with Imt by a contract, they could if they were free agents. Also theres b1t who is tied with TeamOne as well.
2017-11-03 16:47
#261
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Brazil Mirekz 
actually TSM (Astralis) played some time without an org while they were still under TSM contracts.
2017-11-03 16:52
#279
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Brazil davidzor 
Probably an agreement between them, which on Imt case it won't happen.
2017-11-03 16:55
#303
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United States Farrukh_M 
They were not under TSM contracts at the time. Once the players left the org, they no longer had a contract with them.
2017-11-03 16:59
I think they just need a good lawyer to free them from this shit, but they have only 1 week left, so it's almost impossible
2017-11-03 17:25
Neymar will buy them. Free major spot + free Neymar sticker hahaha
2017-11-03 16:44
R E T A R D S
2017-11-03 16:44
#215
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Germany unsalted 
GJ Noah.. also Haha get cucked by the Gingerman! static.invenglobal.com/upload/image/2017..
2017-11-03 16:44
1mil not that much tbh
2017-11-03 16:45
#221
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Brazil nneark 
WTF 1$ MILION???
2017-11-03 16:45
#226
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Ukraine Pham77 
#FREEVILLAMIX #FUCKIMMORTALSSTAFF
2017-11-03 16:46
#228
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Brazil KriMb3R 
FIRST: LOOOOOOOOOOOL SECOND: SO, LETS THINK....1M FOR 3 PLAYERS, MANY THINK ITS TOO MUCH, SO NO ORG WILL BUY THEM....OK, BUT, BY THE END OF THE CONTRACT, NOAH WILL LOSE THE 3 AND WILL GAIN NOTHING IN EXCHANGE....NO MONEY, NO MAJOR SPOT, NO GOOD PLAYER, NOTHING....SO, NOAH IS A GREAT DUMB XD
2017-11-03 16:47
#240
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Brazil lleonciocs 
do you really think that this team can make to the major in the hard way?
2017-11-03 16:49
#269
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Brazil KriMb3R 
VILLAMIX CAN MAKE TO THE MAJOR, YES, BUUUT, IT WAS NOT MY POINT.....BY MAKING THEM HOSTAGE TILL THE END OF THE CONTRACT, IMT WON'T GET THE MONEY, NOR THE PLAYERS BENCHED WILL PLAY FOR THE ORG IN THE MAJOR, SO, NO MAJOR SPOT NOW
2017-11-03 16:53
#307
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Brazil lleonciocs 
Rigth now he just doesn't care, he already had a lost. And Lucas and hen have more 6 months.
2017-11-03 17:00
#327
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Brazil KriMb3R 
YEAH, ITS LIKE HES GIVING A SHIT KKKKKKKKKKKKKKK LIKE HES SENDING A MESSAGE "DONT FUCK WITH ME CAUSE I DONT GIVE A SHIT" XD
2017-11-03 17:02
#344
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Brazil lleonciocs 
He is saying, don't fuck with my brand. His brand worth much more.
2017-11-03 17:05
#264
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Germany unsalted 
As if Noah would care about 1M
2017-11-03 16:52
#233
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Ukraine killern1 
Who will risk 1M$ on this shitty guys?
2017-11-03 16:47
#235
AdreN | 
Italy marxie 
He needs money cuz his actual team wont win shit
2017-11-03 16:48
#242
liTTle | 
CIS Dowa) 
cant heni lucas kng go major without represent org or its illegal? hopefully nobody buy them out and cant go major xD
2017-11-03 16:49
+1 but I think they can go without sponsor or org
2017-11-03 16:58
#298
liTTle | 
CIS Dowa) 
i hope not xD
2017-11-03 16:58
Damn it’s hard to see another fan of little out here, he deserves better
2017-11-03 17:04
#383
liTTle | 
CIS Dowa) 
<3 liTTle tags so rare ): yes he do. i wish forze kicked kibaken and picked some goood then they have better potential
2017-11-03 17:16
#317
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Germany Gloin 
I assume it will be stated somewhere in the contracts that they can't play csgo tournaments outside of the org
2017-11-03 17:01
#428
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Malaysia Level1Cam 
#232
2017-11-03 17:24
Well yeah, if Noah plays this smartly, he might not get close to 1M, but he might earn alot more than what he normally would...just accept the highest offer as late as possible.
2017-11-03 16:49
The best choice. Villamix have potencial to get a spot in the next major 02/2018.
2017-11-03 18:50
If they didn’t spend their money with parties they would have paid to leave Immortals and have the money back after major..
2017-11-03 16:50
Asshole attitude, he wants the trio out of the major cause he knows that no team is gonna pay that price...
2017-11-03 16:50
#297
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Sweden 133665 
Good they fucked him over he will fuck them over Two wrongs always make a right don’t listen to that other bs
2017-11-03 16:58
Good move, a little revange for fucking over his team is the least he can do, after major he can just lower the price or just terminate the contract and show them middle finger while laughing.
2017-11-03 17:04
#390
fnx | 
Brazil cfg_allos 
there will be other Majors, the team "Villa Mix" is much more likely to qualify than the current line-up of Immortals with zQk lul
2017-11-03 17:16
So? What's your point? Even if Noah would let them go and play in this major that wouldn't change anything for Imt chances of playing in any major.
2017-11-03 17:21
#588
fnx | 
Brazil cfg_allos 
The point is you're defending this guy who's ridiculous, hypocritical, and leftist.
2017-11-03 18:29
Nah, you are just fanboying those immature fucks and can't see the whole picture.
2017-11-03 18:31
#595
fnx | 
Brazil cfg_allos 
"show them middle finger while laughing" you're very mature lol
2017-11-03 18:33
Thats how world works, they screwd him over, he screws them over, you won't get anywhere by being nice to some fucks thats screws you over.
2017-11-03 18:37
#607
fnx | 
Brazil cfg_allos 
Noah hired a sixth player to put pressure on a team that came as Major finalist, soon after the three players were wanting to leave Immortals because they obviously did not think it was fair, so we can conclude who started all this.
2017-11-03 18:44
Even if he wanted to get rid of kng after the major, I can't blame him, the way he acted during major matches made A LOT of people hating on the whole Immortal organisation, no matter how good he was, player like him is not good for the business, so we can conclude who started all this.
2017-11-03 19:00
#671
fnx | 
Brazil cfg_allos 
what are you talking about? what did kng do before and during the Major that could be punished? if for reasons that I'm thinking then most orgs should kick their players.
2017-11-03 19:56
As I've said, his behaviour during major matches brought A LOT of criticism and even hate on the whole Immortals organisation, that's not something the org owner can close his eyes on since the team reputation is as important as results, if he wanted to get rid of him for that I can't blame him, and then comes dead threats, FUCKING DEAD THREATS, after that he should have been kicked on the spot from the team, how fucked up is that? It's the highest level of fucked up... dead threats... he should have been banned by valve for at least a year for that. But instead of that he gets suspended, fucking joke of a punishment for death threats, and even then dhe doesn't give a fuck about the punishment... How can someone support a scum like that?
2017-11-03 20:05
#683
fnx | 
Brazil cfg_allos 
Did they hate Immortals? I did not see any hatred for kng's attitudes during the Major, the only thing I saw was people not liking Immortals going to the finals, it kind of disgusted some people and they said things like "this tier 3 monkeys do not deserve to go to the final" but it seems that racism is normal for you, so you associate with something else.
2017-11-03 20:15
There was shitload of hatred for kng after game against BiG... not gonna dwell on that since you are just trying to deny something that happened. 2nd thing. What made you think that I'm racist? just because i don't like an immature fuck that acts like a fucking animal towards his opponents during matches and then posts dead threats on his twitter makes me racist? FFS don't try to stick a racist tag to everyone who don't like that fucking scum only because he happens to be brasilian...
2017-11-03 20:30
#691
fnx | 
Brazil cfg_allos 
I say that because it's exactly like it is, "Brazilian players when they win rounds screams like monkeys, why?" You say things like that all the time just forget that other players of other nationalities have already done it. s1mple being racist: "normal". kng trying to defend himself wrongly on twitter: "this guy needs to be banned for all eternity from CS: GO". even the "s1mple" is venerated by many of you to this day.
2017-11-03 20:33
This what you have done here is a great example of racism my friend... You think that I'm racist only because I'm white? Do you think all white people are racist towards brasilians? That is actually pretty fucking racist... So don't try to stick a racist tag to everyone that hates on kng because there is a huge reason for hatered towards him, and about p1mple? I hate that fuck too almost as much as kng, but only because of dead threats kng wins this run.
2017-11-03 20:43
#724
fnx | 
Brazil cfg_allos 
read my comment again, people were not only hating kng but all of Immortals. What I meant is that people call the Brazilians monkey with the totally racist intention, the simple fact of being Brazilian is enough , of a return in this forum and you will see that I am not lying.
2017-11-03 22:35
Don't play some drama queen, people on hltv are racist almost towards every country. As I've said, because of kng behaviour whole Immortals was hated on, you have just said yourself that Immortals was hated, look at SK, they don't gets 1/3 of hate that Immortals was getting, SK have shitload of fans among Europeans. Why? Because they dont act like kng, they are likeable. kngs behaiviour was destroying reputation of the whole team. So if Noah wanted to kick him then he had good reason for it.
2017-11-03 22:57
#729
fnx | 
Brazil cfg_allos 
reasons to kick before and during the Major? I think not. The hatred that people had with Immortals was because a tier 2/3 team made up of Brazilians arriving in the Major's final was something that was not acceptable to people, just like it happened to LG / SK, a gratuitous hate. Maybe I'm being dramatic, most of the comments in this forum that are aimed at Brazilians contain the word "monkey", everything in my head, spare me.
2017-11-03 23:02
Immortals was on the scene long time before the major and they never got the ammount of hatred as they got after kngs behaviour during game against BIG and that was quarter final so they wasn't in the final yet after that game. You can't deny that kngs behaviour was extremly harmful for Immortals reputation...
2017-11-03 23:19
#738
fnx | 
Brazil cfg_allos 
I've told you before, I do not defend and I will never defend kng, your attitudes AFTER the major were unacceptable but they were not well treated by Noah, he just got rid of kng and got that "honor>all" talk, see his honor now, does not want to release the players and I'm not talking about the contract itself, but about this value that does not fit the reality, totally childish attitude, see how honored this guy is.
2017-11-03 23:32
Then what in your opinion he should have done about kng? He posted death threats on his twitter, then afaik refused to apologise for it and after Imt suspended him he still played in an official match not giving a damn about his punishment, just tell me, what would you do in a place of Noah? Because I would do exactly the same what he did, if player don't respect an organisation that employs him he deserves to be kicked.
2017-11-04 02:10
What about any of this is leftist? If anything it's conservative to expect you players to act professional. The leftist attitude would be "let them do w/e they want". So if anything YOU are defending a leftist attitude.
2017-11-04 13:19
Wtf are you saying? No team is gonna buy them after the major, they are surely gonna wait until the contract end then Noah won't win shit
2017-11-03 18:48
You can obviously see that he don't need that money, if he would really want to sell them he wouldn't put a price like that for them, he did best decision he could, if someone buys them, he gets a lot of money, if no one buys them he gets a little revange, its a win-win deciosn for him if he don't need the money.
2017-11-03 19:07
Wasting money for personal revenge is a dumb move I guess
2017-11-04 00:37
+1 if one lets personal issues cloud his judgment and waste a shitload of money just to feel better with himself, he won't stay a ceo for long.
2017-11-04 01:30
You gotta remember that the immortals is a organization and it shouldn't pay for the whises of its ceo
2017-11-04 00:40
asshole because he has their contract to certain date and doesnt wanna give them away for free? This happens in real sports all the time, i dont know why in esports everyone blames orgs for doing something like this
2017-11-04 00:01
No, cause he put a price that no org can pay just for a revenge, after this, the contracts will end and he won't earn shit
2017-11-04 00:36
I hope no one buys them out and they don't make the major
2017-11-03 16:50
lmao, nobody will buy them
2017-11-03 16:50
EASY FOR CEO XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD goodbye twins, you won't be missed
2017-11-03 16:50
I'm all for punishing those drama queens but this seem more like payback than actual business move. This may hurt IMT image towards future free agents.
2017-11-03 16:54
get fucked :DD
2017-11-03 16:55
#283
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World Tenshi_R 
November 10 - ex-imt lose major spot November 11 - imt ceo was knifed
2017-11-03 16:56
#309
demente | 
Brazil viikt 
November 12 - kNgV- gets arrested
2017-11-03 17:00
Lol the best messages in the thread
2017-11-03 17:22
#462
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Malaysia Level1Cam 
XD
2017-11-03 17:31
#284
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Netherlands Nycto 
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
2017-11-03 16:56
SK can buy thm. u already have felps . Buy cogu n name thm sk 2.0 ez 2 major spots evry time
2017-11-03 16:56
SK can buy thm. u already have felps . Buy cogu n name thm sk 2.0 ez 2 major spots evry time
2017-11-03 16:56
#363
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India Jags 
same org cant have 2 teams in major. There is a reason fnatic academy disbanded
2017-11-03 17:08
Who would want to pay $1m for a bunch of idiots and alcoholics ?
2017-11-03 16:58
#361
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Argentina resolutioNN 
LOOl, you arent alcoholic but you never will play a major. faggot.
2017-11-03 17:08
And why would i want to play a major ? XD
2017-11-03 17:11
CIS talking about alcohol addiction, okay
2017-11-03 17:20
LUL
2017-11-03 17:23
#304
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Germany Gloin 
Deserved! :'D
2017-11-03 16:59
#311
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Sweden to_ez_for_vp 
wow kng will rly kill someone now
2017-11-03 17:00
noah hypocrite yes or for sure?
2017-11-03 17:00
Professional if anything
2017-11-03 18:15
maybe you have not seen what he said about team one, yes he's hypocrite
2017-11-03 18:36
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
2017-11-03 17:00
#315
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Brazil Stefanuto 
I do not know why they are impressed, they are great players and they are worth this price yes #TeamVillaMix
2017-11-03 17:01
They are worth it BUT their contract ends one month later. So Noah just scamming the money and trying to revenge like an ex-gf
2017-11-03 17:19
#697
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Brazil Stefanuto 
the contract ends at the end of the year, and the major is in January, they do not have the time to get a team, and get everything ready by January
2017-11-03 20:47
LUL
2017-11-03 17:01
#318
f0rest | 
Finland Kentab 
Pretty much along the lines that could be expected. A free pass to Majors.
2017-11-03 17:01
#321
huNter | 
Czech Republic Muy 
just 1$
2017-11-03 17:01
Good job Noah, now I have even more respect for that guy than when he kicked kng.
2017-11-03 17:01
1M for literally the most unprofessional "pro" players in the scene , nice joke.
2017-11-03 17:02
#329
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Armenia Imissexoptic 
AHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHA
2017-11-03 17:03
#330
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Estonia Rebae 
Lmao wtf
2017-11-03 17:03
rip eleague major
2017-11-03 17:03
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Deserved for unprofessional assholes.
2017-11-03 17:03
My observation would be, apparently their contracts run out in December, so what's the point holding them to their contracts when you can't even have them for the major...
2017-11-03 17:04
to make them miss the major, they have brought disgrace to the immortals org
2017-11-03 17:07
But they won't be a part of the IMT in January when the Major takes place, as their contracts expire...
2017-11-03 17:19
novermber 10th is the due date to submit the roster for the major in january, so if they don't do something now, it's over
2017-11-03 17:54
ohhh my apologies...
2017-11-03 17:54
#343
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World Zlq2k 
Good on Noah these players screwed his org over and they think they could just leave? Lul.
2017-11-03 17:04
#348
shroud | 
Canada ozboz 
Good, that's what these players deserve. Your skill is irrelevant if you don't respect the game or the one paying your salary. Have fun riding the pine boys.
2017-11-03 17:06
they are free in december tho right?
2017-11-03 17:08
#367
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India Jags 
and they wont attend the major,wont be getting invites to any events either :) No pro league or even esea premier.
2017-11-03 17:09
well they can back in there easily
2017-11-03 17:54
why not receiving invites, dude?
2017-11-07 19:40
#354
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China 21savage 
LUL ahahahaha
2017-11-03 17:06
#359
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United States NA_CS_FAN 
Good shit immortals
2017-11-03 17:07
#365
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India Jags 
Deserved. Revenge is sweet
2017-11-03 17:09
#368
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Ukraine w1nthoil 
SeemsLogical
2017-11-03 17:10
HAHAHA GET F***** REKT BRAZILIANS
2017-11-03 17:12
nice one Noah :D
2017-11-03 17:12
#380
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Sweden Trkmag 
Lost all respect for Noah Winston, hope Immortals will do bad in all eSports from now on
2017-11-03 17:13
doesnt matter what happens, IMT is clearly the one who gets fucked up at the end =p bad ceo reputation tier 5 team they are looking like those ex girlfriends that cant deal with the break up, and keep coming back for "revenge" LMAOO those guys will have more succes then IMT on csgo in one way or another, doesnt amtter what happens xD
2017-11-03 17:13
#398
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Brazil lleonciocs 
IMT doesn't care about CSGO scene anymore dude. THEY FUCKING HAVE A SPOT IN OVERWATCH MOTHER FUCKING LEAGUE .
2017-11-03 17:18
doesnt matter if they care or not their team is trash xd
2017-11-03 17:18
#407
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Brazil lleonciocs 
Ok you have a team making MILLIONS in Overwatch, would you care in under performe in CSGO? cuse I wouldn't.
2017-11-03 17:20
You care bs you would win in two games, CSGO and Overwatch.
2017-11-07 19:41
Nah, it's more like ex-boyfriend that post his ex nudes on the internet when she breaks up with him. Imt is screwd already anyway because of those immature fucks, little revange is the least that Noah deserves, good move.
2017-11-03 17:18
+1 exacly that lmao worst case scenario POSSIBLE is the team miss the major, chill till contract ends, make a team, be 10x more succesful than imt, gg
2017-11-03 17:19
Bad ceo reputation :D :D :D I guess they cant sign alcoholics now...
2017-11-03 17:21
the problem is, he tried HARD to kick kng from day 1, didnt say anything, and just act like a bitch the whole time so yeah, this is a bad ceo reputation lol kng twitter thing was the final thing of the whole deal this started way earlier, but I guess only brs that follow the scene close knows everything, I dont think it was clear the way it came out on hltv and stuff like that =T and after all, he comes and do this xd enjoy the moment cuz this guy clearly is bad at business LUL
2017-11-03 17:23
Maybe they should learn and not fuck themselves in the ass. Be nice to people and act like a professional if you are getting paid.
2017-11-03 17:27
I agree 100% but the difference is on their position is easier to fix, cuz they are fucking very good at the game. they just need to play again, and not fuck up if they get to other team, and fuck up again, then fuck those guys but what noah is doing is just stupid and bad business at long term because they probably will miss the major, but if they miss the major I guarantee 100% they will just chill till contract ends if imt get no money = terrible if imt get the money = good for now, but only for now lol not seeing the big picture and acting like a 12 yo = bad business move on long terms all the bad publicity already = bad move, now this xd
2017-11-03 17:29
You really think other teams would let major holders leave for no compensation? Lets SK roster wanted to part ways with their org. Could they just leave for free and expect to play in major?
2017-11-03 17:33
SK is the best team in the world, worst case scenario top3 IMT can ask for some money, but this is too much they say close to 1 million, we can suppose is 900+ lol this is clearly a way of fuck the guys, like "give me a lot, or I will laugh on those guys losing major spot eh eh" =p they could ask a lot, but not this much, and get paid and gg this is clearly revenge xd edit: remember its 3 players! not 5!!
2017-11-03 17:35
He could ask 1 billion if he wanted to. Do not make long contracts if you like to swap teams like you swap your mattress --- shit all over it after a good night out.
2017-11-03 18:08
I agree, but business is a long term thing you can be an asshole and exploit your contract on a player or something, but remember you will stay on the business for a while, you will try to do contracts later with other players etc
2017-11-03 19:16
#387
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United States ViKaLiBuR 
Wouldn’t it be fucking hilarious if Immortals sold these players to different teams???
2017-11-03 17:15
#408
coldzera | 
Brazil wAc 
uAUHAHuaUHauhauhhauhua, it really would be, imagine Lucas1 on Tempo Storm and Hen1 in complexity
2017-11-03 17:20
It´s not posible.
2017-11-07 19:43
#389
paz | 
Turkey zsonur 
Neymar will get them to PSG Gaming. izi
2017-11-03 17:16
Lmao They're fucked
2017-11-03 17:16
#395
Twistzz | 
Taiwan tudoh 
n1
2017-11-03 17:17
#402
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Europe keNLey94 
fuck noah winston he should be punished
2017-11-03 17:19
#411
SolEk | 
Macau SJ158 
So what? Cant they just sign in as a new org or some self made clan?
2017-11-03 17:20
and getting sued for breaking their contracts? a case they would 100% lose, good thinking
2017-11-03 18:14
#571
SolEk | 
Macau SJ158 
In that case they would not be making a new org, just playing like the poles used to play as Again or some shit. But its not possible since they need to have an org to play.
2017-11-03 18:15
no but they would still not play under the immortals org, pretty sure their contracts have a clause that forbids that, especially to represent anything but immortals at the majors as long as they are bound by their contracts
2017-11-03 19:22
#666
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Germany nadero 
can you get sued if you're not an american citizen?
2017-11-03 19:46
Sure they can. When they buy out themselves.
2017-11-03 18:14
wp noah
2017-11-03 17:21
LUL RIP villa mix
2017-11-03 17:21
#419
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Brazil lopanBR 
Goodbye Major spot VillaMix team hahahaha
2017-11-03 17:22
ez money Kappa
2017-11-03 17:23
#429
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Brazil spaark1 
daaamn
2017-11-03 17:24
#434
SpawN | 
Japan 4MS1K3N 
small loan of 1m
2017-11-03 17:25
now F3 can lose 3 games and still get to the Major
2017-11-03 17:25
What a shit person this Noah, I hope he never ever have succes
2017-11-03 17:26
That shouldn't be a problem, the trio can have an agreement with the new org to give them all the stickers money and also their part of the tournment prize, that together may give them half of the contract buyout.
2017-11-03 17:26
exactly i dont know why all these idiots above are saying its unfair, theyre selling a functional team with a major spot that will bring soo much attention to a new brand I hate these cunts but Ill watch their games anyway and im sure many others will too.
2017-11-03 18:11
#444
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Europe Sargon5 
Good. This will set an example for other kids who will try to act unprofessional
2017-11-03 17:27
#445
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Brazil c0nt 
Noah : money > honor
2017-11-03 17:27
sure lol
2017-11-03 17:27
#452
L.K.S | 
Brazil Exfm 
only 1m? #Ez4neymayjr
2017-11-03 17:29
Three little nerds have decided that they can fuck around with the CEO of a major gaming company and do as they please with his e-sports team. Who could've guessed that they will most likely have their careers ruined if they decide to fuck with a guy that has more money and is likely smarter than them?
2017-11-03 17:34
Lol so expected not sure anyone is surprised. Villamix is a mirage
2017-11-03 17:34
How many banana's is that?
2017-11-03 17:36
D E S E R V E D E S E R V E D
2017-11-03 17:42
#503
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Serbia ch0pa^ 
hahahahha they where probably jerks to him, thats why hes doing this deserved
2017-11-03 17:44
#505
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Brazil Collee 
Rofl. They'll disband in a few months, they're good af but they're still party animals. Not even close to be worth 1M
2017-11-03 17:45
#511
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Finland jUPPE! 
Asking too much money is a double edged sword because those 3 guys are only valuable til the next major because of the legend spot.
2017-11-03 17:46
#519
TaZ | 
Turkey eldars 
2017-11-03 17:49
What a great man. I hope his plan works out and he all saves us from seeing them on the next Major!
2017-11-03 17:50
#523
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United States TeDiouSn 
ez buy for NRG
2017-11-03 17:50
Is that a honorable thing to do?
2017-11-03 17:58
Those guys aren't kids anymore, they should know what is in their contracts. Mr Whinston isn't doing anything wrong. But i still feel sorry for Hen1 and Lucas1, not so much for fnx, so much talent but can't seem to hold a job for 6 months...
2017-11-03 17:59
#545
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Turkey payynn 
+1
2017-11-03 18:05
#560
HObbit | 
Spain Alser 
Hen1 and Lucas1 are still young, they made a decision which will have bad consequences but they can learn from it and come back next major
2017-11-03 18:12
RIP Villa Mix
2017-11-03 18:07
#550
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Turkey Mustafa- 
Lmao these toxic deserved that Nobody will pay that money
2017-11-03 18:07
neymar will buy them
2017-11-03 18:08
imagine he gets PSG to invest in villa mix LOL thats pennies for those fuckers
2017-11-03 18:13
it would be unreal, immortals ceo would cry his eyes out i believe xd tbh i hate favelas but these is always something going on around them so i think this team will be exiting af
2017-11-03 18:15
Immortals ceo would cry his eyes out and wipe the tears with 1 million dollars in his pocket. imgur.com/a/9kYmM
2017-11-03 18:27
but at the same time what he has? dogshit lol team, cs team is tier 4 at best, literally nothing
2017-11-03 18:29
So going with that logic then he already should be crying his eyes out since thats what he have right now. Believe me he did the best decision he could, if someone buys them he will get a lot of money so win for him, if no one buys them they miss major and he have revange, again win for him, so no reason to cry his eyes out.
2017-11-03 18:34
yea but he had freaking major final team in his org, now he's just paying salary to useless lol and csgo team who wont even win smaller 50k turnaments, turnament prize money and glory will be 0
2017-11-03 18:36
Well it's not him to blame for that, imo he should have kicked kng already after the dead threats, thats not something you should close youre eyes for, but he gave him a chance by suspending him, and what he gets for that, he ignores his suspension and plays the game, that was definitely crossing the line so he kicked him and what the toxic twins does? Refuses to play, Noah is definitely the victim here.
2017-11-03 18:42
good, now let's hope they don't get bought and miss the major. Karma is a bitch
2017-11-03 18:10
#568
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Brazil gblnunes 
+1
2017-11-03 18:14
they will just sit and do nothing and get paid until the end of their contracts then. and IMT loses the major spot sell-on fee, the player's transfer fee and the players when the contract finishes.
2017-11-03 19:00
#557
HObbit | 
Spain Alser 
hahaha
2017-11-03 18:11
#561
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CIS AiryJade 
He is not smart and loyal then. He is not from brasil
2017-11-03 18:13
#565
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United Kingdom Trix465 
Its as simple as expected return on investment: Present Value of expected winnings over next 1/2 years plus Present Value of expected sticker money from majors less the $1m outlay. If you estimate that to be a positive Net Present Value (and you can afford $1m in cash) then go for it. Edit: If I was an org owner with $1m to invest I still personally wouldn't invest in them. Whether rumours/stories are true or not these guys have a bad rep and no business wants a bad rep as it reduces revenues and sponsorship possibilities as other companies might not wish to be associated with them.
2017-11-03 18:16
As much as it hurts Noah Whinston's reputation, I completely agree with why he is doing this. Because the twins and kNg dishonoured the org through their actions, their words, and wanting to ditch the org so all of them can have their own legend spot, he's making it so that if an org wants a completely disrespectful roster just to play in the major, they have to pay $1M. If they pay, he get's money. If they don't, the trio lose their spot and have to start at the bottom. If you disagree, you'll prove it or I'll kill you. Kappa
2017-11-03 18:16
#593
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United Kingdom mrwhitey998 
This doesn't hurt his reputation this enhances it fuck the trio
2017-11-03 18:31
that's exactly why you're not a businessman, you'd mismanage your org just like noah the cuck did and flush all his investors' money down the toilet. funny to watch his org crumbling. it doesn't matter if the trio start at a minor pre-qualifier, they just take the long way. but it matters to IMT if they lose out on the player transfer money and the money from selling their major spot.
2017-11-03 18:52
#575
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Brazil VitorMed14 
tough situation
2017-11-03 18:17
#579
NiKo | 
Poland Jaruzel 
LUL 1 mln for players that won't even show up on time for match.
2017-11-03 18:20
#581
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United Kingdom FEodAL 
not enough, should be 10 billion
2017-11-03 18:21
#587
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Portugal anomelyxd 
Wtf noah delusional
2017-11-03 18:28
Might just want to punish them and let them rot on the bench ;)
2017-11-03 22:01
#713
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Portugal anomelyxd 
Thats fucked up and un my opinion he is being a retard
2017-11-03 22:08
Well either he gets 1mil or they stay on his bench the org loses the major spot either way....and who knows how valuable that spot really is
2017-11-03 22:10
#591
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United Kingdom mrwhitey998 
Im actually glad for once the org "fucks" over the players after everything the players did to them.
2017-11-03 18:30
These guys deserved it. You have to be very naive to think that the immortals organization would just acept the prejudice and let they get away....
2017-11-03 18:37
#603
cAmyy | 
Brazil ToRu 
NICE IMT
2017-11-03 18:41
#606
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Austria gex0r 
I really hope they lose their Major spot
2017-11-03 18:43
não tem como
2017-11-03 18:45
only 1m ? ez Neymar Junior
2017-11-03 18:47
normal for monkeys
2017-11-03 18:48
#616
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Brazil FrizoR 
LOL Ez 4 Neymar
2017-11-03 18:50
Those three cunts fucked him hard. Time for payback
2017-11-03 18:51
Assuming that the players always had the right to choose if they want play or be benched this fee just represent an unfair punishment to players. Noah can't do this just because they doesn't want to play under IMT banner anymore, that is just ridiculous.
2017-11-03 18:51
how is this unfair
2017-11-03 18:56
how? Just because some of your employees doesn't want to work in ur company it don't give to you the right to keep they stock and can't find a new job... .. I just see kids that want vengeance because they dislike the fact that BR is top1 in cs
2017-11-03 19:01
They signed a contract lol. They cant simply say "I dont want to work for your company anymore" and go to somewhere else. "I just see kids that want vengeance because they dislike the fact that BR is top1 in cs" Just fuck off seriously
2017-11-03 19:06
So an org should buy the fair fee and its not what is happening here. Clearly Noah want to punish the trio.
2017-11-03 19:08
It doesnt matter if he wants to, he has every right to do so though after the trio damaging the image of Immortals.
2017-11-03 19:09
So yeah, veagence to "solve" a problem. I hope Noah org got bankrupt soon...
2017-11-03 19:10
I hope you get a brain soon...
2017-11-03 19:11
What? IMT CEO knows he wont receive this ammount of money, but he still asking for it and also he KNOWS that the other orgs will wait till the end of their contracts then "buy their jobs", so instead of receive certain kind of money he refuses and is asking ALOT just to punish the trio. Don't you think Noah's way to handle this problem is inappropriate? .. I HOPE u and NOah got brain man
2017-11-03 19:16
#655
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United States Farrukh_M 
It is Noah's decision to do this, and he has every right to do it. With this, he is sacrificing the ability to make money off of selling these players off their contracts early by setting the price ridiculously high. He knows that if he sets a price that people will buy, he won't be making much, and there is still a low chance of an org buying the trio. With this, he ensures that they are not able to participate in the major because of their actions, but his organization still gets a lot of money if they are able to sell them off.
2017-11-03 19:34
thanks for confirm what i said, noah just want veagence.
2017-11-03 19:45
#665
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United States Farrukh_M 
No problem, I was just re-wording it because I didn't know if he/she understood it at first.
2017-11-03 19:46
#662
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Brazil stmm 
ORG > Players, end.
2017-11-03 19:40
I agree about fair fee. It shouldn't be like auction, exact sum must be written in the contract.
2017-11-03 22:34
#633
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Brazil rokiiss 
It's a business bruh. Also the Major spot on the line if KNGV joins up
2017-11-03 19:06
#622
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Romania alios24 
payback is a biatch good for the CEO for making an example of those traitors
2017-11-03 18:52
#658
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Germany No_Kappa 
players will qualify for future majors. Mr. drama queen CEO managed to make IMT LoL and CSGO team irrelevant.
2017-11-03 19:38
#674
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Romania alios24 
doubt any org would pay 1 million for 3 inconsistent tier3 players rip their carrers
2017-11-03 19:58
#678
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Germany No_Kappa 
By that logic RIP GODSENT. They will miss this major too. it's not the first major they miss. Wont be the last.
2017-11-03 20:04
So basically they have a very low chance of getting signed. Touche.
2017-11-03 18:56
#630
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Europe rEdYy 
kngV , fnx , hen1 , lucas1 (+some1) second NA/SA best team , first is Sk
2017-11-03 19:00
#708
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Israel androexe 
+bit as they already stated so ez top 1 world
2017-11-03 21:51
Boths sides are getting fucked lol. The players get fucked because they can't attend the major and the org gets fucked because they obviously won't get the money. Second best BR Team Immortals R.I.P
2017-11-03 19:09
#657
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Germany No_Kappa 
well the players will most probably qualify for future majors. While IMT org is now irrelevant in CSGO and LoL (they got kicked from LCS).
2017-11-03 19:37
#645
Hiko | 
Brazil leobrx 
I will tell you guys how I see this situation: They would be an excellent team (but im not sure if they would win a Major). There's just a problem: fnx and the twin brothers are skilled players but they lack discipline. Fnx already had a problem in the past with parties and alcohol. The twin brothers are going in the same way as fnx when we talk about discipline. Fallen, fer, taco and cold just reached the top because they have discipline and commitment, thats why they're pros. Im not sure if fnx and the brothers will have the same commitment. I might be wrong, but thats my opinion.
2017-11-03 19:19
lmao far too shit for 1m
2017-11-03 19:22
#652
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Spain akproxx 
Totally deserved lol
2017-11-03 19:30
#653
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Germany No_Kappa 
To those saying Immortals CEO Noah Whinston would never hold a player hostage, that he's a saint, blah blah blah. Not only he's a self entitled drama queen but he's stupid as well. IMT survives because Venture Capitals give him money and what has he done? He ruined IMT LoL team by being a virgin and managing to get kicked from LCS. Now IMT's CSGO division is irrelevant. He could have reduced losses by asking for something reasonable like $200k but he's asking for something no-one will pay for. The trio will move on with life and most probably play in the major after the next one and IMT will remain the same irrelevant org. Except they just spent another $20mil of investors money joining Overwatch League. As an investor I can tell you his track record is horrible. Failed to build a brand in CSGO and LoL after burning ~30mil investors money. Good riddance.
2017-11-03 19:35
Good analysis from you, nice to see it on hltv
2017-11-03 22:32
i agree
2017-11-04 00:45
#659
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Germany nadero 
hahahahaha 1mio dollares... get a grip you four eyed nerd
2017-11-03 19:39
#661
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Germany No_Kappa 
Neymar could pay this with his smallest credit-card and it would cost him 1 day of salary.
2017-11-03 19:40
Dis makes me sad :c
2017-11-03 22:30
#668
fer | 
Brazil cyrax12 
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHA
2017-11-03 19:49
hope nobody pays, those 3 don't deserve for rekt
2017-11-03 19:56
wtf
2017-11-03 19:57
Wait until contract ends and dont need to pay nothing LUL
2017-11-03 19:58
#677
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Denmark SK2Strong 
Also IMT will make no profit by LEGENDS status, very smart CEO... IMT tier 3 and losing $$$...
2017-11-03 20:03
#681
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Spain Ali3nigena 
imt owners are retarded to a major spot too a tier 1000
2017-11-03 20:07
#682
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Denmark SK2Strong 
And if dont sell the trio in next 7 days, the profit they can make with trio will be a lot lower. The legend status will be wasted! But he'll still have honor... =D
2017-11-03 20:12
Real honor is not for pussies, but fake 'honor' is definitely with Noah
2017-11-03 22:30
#684
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Switzerland GoTMedicine 
oO
2017-11-03 20:15
#690
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Brazil oldStar 
Revenge from Noah... Fair.
2017-11-03 20:30
#693
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Czech Republic MrM4sl0 
lmao cunt.
2017-11-03 20:37
Unfortunately wealthy orgs are too intelligent to buy these immature players. 1mil is a decent price for insta-major status for an org.
2017-11-03 20:49
a million bucks top kek
2017-11-03 21:10
> Came to see triggered favelas.. > Was not disappointed.
2017-11-03 21:34
wait they're being sold for seven figures? I'd expect 800k buyout.
2017-11-03 21:36
Noah is a fucking genius
2017-11-03 21:40
give them a million $ and they do anything
2017-11-03 21:48
a small loan of a million dollars
2017-11-03 21:49
Lol now I got it
2017-11-03 22:29
Get fucked lmao
2017-11-03 21:51
#710
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32 
Not a fan of this move at all... Utterly ridiculous.
2017-11-03 22:00
#714
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Belarus Dru1D 
What's the profit for orgs who would buy them? 1m is serious amount, that's worth of 2 major first places
2017-11-03 22:08
#810
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Belgium fowkingell 
There are barely any orgs that get their money from tournament winnings though.
2017-11-04 10:15
expected as fuck, people with money will ALWAYS be the strong part of a negociation.
2017-11-03 22:09
what does it has to do dup fuck
2017-11-03 22:26
?????????????????? u have no brain? cus if u had half of one you would understand, RETARDED
2017-11-04 11:43
'' H O N O R '' he said
2017-11-03 22:26
Hell yea. Inb4 the twins realize how idiotic they were being and stay on immortals for the major.
2017-11-03 22:46
nice
2017-11-03 22:56
1kk is very primas no jd itatinga xDD
2017-11-03 23:02
neymar is going to build his org and they will buy them and build great team so no problem guys
2017-11-03 23:20
PogChamp 1 million is nothing for footballers, Ronaldo could buy entire FaZe with 1 week salary. Neymar Jr. vs Ronldo team Major Finals Kreygasm
2017-11-04 16:00
thats u get when acting like 12 year old kids, deserved
2017-11-03 23:27
Noah definitely will get a slap from investors because he's acting like 12 yo and ruining org
2017-11-03 23:34
#737
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Denmark geerZo 
they will retire lol
2017-11-03 23:30
Why don't the trio threatens to kill FNS too? This way they could be kicked for free just like kng. No buyout. That would be a solid move tbh.
2017-11-03 23:36
Prove it or ill kill you
2017-11-03 23:47
Their bum lives aren't worth that much.
2017-11-04 00:07
1M$ for a bunch of toxic guys ,that's a good joke for april 1st.
2017-11-04 01:17
Please don't mention money to a bunch of HLTV nerds. They either live at home or in a tiny apartment, eating quick noodles every night and have no grasp of anything related to business or money.
2017-11-04 02:16
#788
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Australia ovaD 
Would love to see these guys miss out on the major. Partying and drinking before a final, threatening to kill players and destroying an org's brand and careers of other players. Couldn't be more deserved and if someone does pay the 1mil, Immortals get some of their investment back.
2017-11-04 03:04
until now has not been proven, that they had drunk, and kng deleted the post after 2 minutes, and apologized on twitter.
2017-11-04 04:04
#791
coldzera | 
Brazil ezSK 
Tbh 1 million for players of that caliber is not unreasonable. Fnx is a two time major winner and twins are very good players too. If it were anyother players with same skillset orgs wouldn't even think for a second before buying. But these guys are known to be reckless, unprofessional and party animals. Im not sure whether these players are capable of bringing in any sponsers even if they are a top tea.
2017-11-04 03:55
#793
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Indonesia p0wah 
Well if the price was 700k then maybe some orgs would buy it, the thing you guys dont see is that Noah can drop the price if no orgs would buy it. You have to start with a high price first when offering something.
2017-11-04 04:07
#866
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Australia basim 
People always ask for a high price so when someone makes a low offer they feel that they are getting a good deal lol
2017-11-06 01:29
#804
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Brazil waveeee 
He can do what he wants if is on the contract, they signed, they know what have done. If someone pays, will be owesome for CSGO, that will rise everyones prices. If not will be very bad, letting 3 huge players out of the scene.
2017-11-04 07:42
#809
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Belgium fowkingell 
Anyone who would pay that much is really dumb considering these 3 do whatever they please and should be thought a lesson. If only they'd focus on cs as much as they do being party animals and being reckless they would be good players.
2017-11-04 10:10
#814
SolEk | 
Macau SJ158 
The logic is inverted, they think they can do what they want because they are good players.
2017-11-04 11:16
#824
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Belgium fowkingell 
Fnx is for sure a good player or at least used to idk how he would perform atm. But the other two are kind of a hit or miss sometimes they have games and sometimes they just suck.
2017-11-04 14:52
#825
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Lithuania Deci 
being TAUGHT a lesson 15 years old?
2017-11-04 14:53
#830
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Belgium fowkingell 
Omg I didn't make sure everything I typed on hltv was written in perfect English.
2017-11-04 15:02
#855
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Lithuania Deci 
you can still edit
2017-11-05 00:56
So now we got 3 players that actually qualified to the major being locked out due to ORGanisation not letting then play for what they achieved by themselves. I tought CS was trying to be for players for the game and not for organisations controlling and taking what was conquered by the players.
2017-11-04 13:51
#823
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Brazil Charizaldo 
Cavaliers stickers incoming
2017-11-04 14:05
I hate you Noah!
2017-11-04 15:04
2 NiKos for 3 toxic bots? I aren't think that.
2017-11-04 15:32
3 toxic bots = 3 finalists of major 2 niko = ?²
2017-11-04 22:18
#860
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United States TheViggs 
Inb4 they eat the contracts like in it's always sunny in philadelphia
2017-11-05 08:30
Tomorrow guys!!
2017-11-06 21:55
what is tomorrow? Neymar is the sponsor from them right?
2017-11-06 22:29
Today is the last day given by Noah. They're talking about Cavalier's basketball team, let's wait.
2017-11-07 12:23
#875
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Brazil madmaxpc 
I hope they get fucked! fuking kids that destroyed a team! they dont deserv anything
2017-11-07 18:55
#880
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Denmark SK2Strong 
They are irresponsible and unprofessional, but it was Noah who destroyed the team! At least he still have honor,,,
2017-11-07 19:51
only a completly stupid CEO would pay +/- 300k for LUCAS1, even he haves a legend status
2017-11-07 19:57
#883
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Brazil madmaxpc 
+1
2017-11-07 21:13
KEEEEEEEK
2017-11-10 11:37
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