NiP, SK & C9 to IEM Oakland playoffs; Astralis eliminated

With wins in the last two matches, Cloud9 and NiP secured playoff spots at IEM Oakland, while SK's good start to the tournament allowed them to make the bracket play over Astralis and EnVyUs.

Facing SK on Train, Cloud9 picked up the early momentum with a second-round force buy, going on a run of four round wins after that. SK's first gun round was a successful one and it broke Cloud9's economy, but another anti-eco blunder cost them the opportunity to take control of the match on the T side of Train.

Throughout the first half, Tyler "Skadoodle" Latham was impeccable, making up for his lackluster performance in the previous match against Envy. The North American AWPer boasted a 23-3 K-D at one point of the match but finished the half 24-6 as SK woke up towards the end of their Terrorist side.

Cloud9 came up big in the deciding match of the group stage

Cloud9 extended their 10-5 lead from the first half by winning the second pistol, however, Ricardo "boltz" Prass's double on the force stopped the North American side from building momentum early in the second half. It didn't add up to much in the end, as two from William "RUSH" Wierzba and one from Skadoodle opened up the first buy round for Cloud9, and they were able to close out the game from there to ensure their place in the playoffs - as well as eliminate Astralis from IEM Oakland 2017.

Matchpage
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7
15th November 2017
Brazil
16
Train
7

 Cloud9 K - D +/- ADR Rating 2.0
United States Tyler 'Skadoodle' LathamSkadoodle 30 - 11 +19 122.6 1.99
United States Tarik 'tarik' Celiktarik 19 - 17 +2 97.0 1.32
United States Jake 'Stewie2K' YipStewie2K 18 - 15 +3 76.7 1.10
United States Timothy 'autimatic' Taautimatic 14 - 13 +1 69.9 1.03
United States William 'RUSH' WierzbaRUSH 13 - 16 -3 69.3 0.95
 SK K - D +/- ADR Rating 2.0
Brazil Fernando 'fer' Alvarengafer 18 - 18 0 89.1 1.12
Brazil Marcelo 'coldzera' Davidcoldzera 17 - 19 -2 84.9 1.11
Brazil Ricardo 'boltz' Prassboltz 17 - 17 0 64.6 0.98
Brazil Gabriel 'FalleN' ToledoFalleN 15 - 20 -5 64.4 0.78
Brazil Epitacio 'TACO' de MeloTACO 5 - 20 -15 36.1 0.42

After winning the CT pistol on Nuke, NiP set themselves up for a comfortable lead and put themselves in a good economic situation by securing the first buy. The key man in the round was Fredrik "REZ" Sterner, who picked up two kills on the lower site to deny the bomb plant. Envy first round came in round seven, and they importantly followed it up with another one, as Christophe "SIXER" Xia picked up a double entry with the AWP. (6-2)

As the half went on, Envy slowly took over the momentum, with Vincent "Happy" Schopenhauer spearheading his side with 17 kills on the T side. In the end, the French team was able to minimise NiP's lead to just one round before switching to the defensive side of the map.

NiP eliminated EnVyUs in a direct fight for a playoff spot

NiP went on a six-round winning streak at the start of the second half, making the score 14-7 and putting Envy in a tight situation. A triple kill from Adil "ScreaM" Benrlitom stopped the bleeding, but only shortly, as the Ninjas confidently closed out the game 16-11 with the youngster REZ topping the scoreboard.

Matchpage
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Sweden
11
Nuke
16

Matchpage
11
16
15th November 2017
Sweden
11
Nuke
16

 Envy K - D +/- ADR Rating 2.0
France Vincent 'Happy' SchopenhauerHappy 24 - 21 +3 111.3 1.33
Belgium Adil 'ScreaM' BenrlitomScreaM 23 - 16 +7 78.4 1.32
France Christophe 'SIXER' XiaSIXER 21 - 19 +2 82.5 1.06
France Cédric 'RpK' GuipouyRpK 16 - 18 -2 65.3 0.93
France Alexandre 'xms' Fortéxms 8 - 21 -13 35.7 0.54
 NiP K - D +/- ADR Rating 2.0
Sweden Fredrik 'REZ' SternerREZ 28 - 17 +11 112.0 1.65
Sweden Christopher 'GeT_RiGhT' AlesundGeT_RiGhT 23 - 20 +3 97.1 1.27
Sweden William 'draken' Sundindraken 18 - 18 0 75.1 1.11
Sweden Patrik 'f0rest' Lindbergf0rest 16 - 20 -4 63.3 0.95
Sweden Richard 'Xizt' LandströmXizt 10 - 17 -7 46.1 0.70

The final game of group A was the one between TheMongolz and Astralis. The Danes had to win against the Asian team to have a chance to move on in the tournament and didn't struggle to do so. After losing the CT pistol round and the following two rounds on Inferno, Lukas "gla1ve" Rossander's side dropped only one round to Enkhtaivan "Machinegun" Lkhagva and co. before the switch. (11-4)

With Peter "dupreeh" Rasmussen dropping 29 kills, Astralis had no issues closing out the game on the Terrorist side. Despite dropping a couple of rounds along the way, the final score was a convincing 16-6 in favor of the Danish side.

Matchpage
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15th November 2017
6
Inferno
16

 TheMongolz K - D +/- ADR Rating 2.0
Mongolia Enkhtaivan 'Machinegun' LkhagvaMachinegun 15 - 20 -5 67.2 0.85
Mongolia Temuulen 'Zilkenberg' BattulgaZilkenberg 12 - 20 -8 62.4 0.79
Mongolia Bold 'ncl' Batsuhncl 13 - 17 -4 67.2 0.78
Mongolia Erdenedalai 'maaRaa' BayanbatmaaRaa 10 - 15 -5 68.5 0.76
Mongolia Tsog 'Tsogoo' MashbatTsogoo 7 - 15 -8 48.1 0.60
 Astralis K - D +/- ADR Rating 2.0
Denmark Peter 'dupreeh' Rasmussendupreeh 29 - 10 +19 136.7 2.12
Denmark Markus 'Kjaerbye' KjærbyeKjaerbye 17 - 9 +8 83.5 1.45
Denmark Lukas 'gla1ve' Rossandergla1ve 18 - 13 +5 87.3 1.30
Denmark Nicolai 'device' Reedtzdevice 15 - 14 +1 80.3 1.14
Denmark Andreas 'Xyp9x' HøjslethXyp9x 8 - 11 -3 45.7 0.68

In the end, NiP ended up on top of the group and with a spot directly in the semi-final, while Cloud9 and SK are set to play in the quarter-final tommorow.

Final standings:

Standing Team Points
1. Sweden NiP 12
2. United States Cloud9 9
3. Brazil SK 9
4. Denmark Astralis 8
5. France Envy 7
6. Mongolia TheMongolz 0
France Vincent 'Happy' Schopenhauer
Vincent 'Happy' Schopenhauer
Age:
28
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.06
Maps played:
1452
KPR:
0.74
DPR:
0.67
APR:
0.12
Denmark Peter 'dupreeh' Rasmussen
Peter 'dupreeh' Rasmussen
Age:
26
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.09
Maps played:
1544
KPR:
0.74
DPR:
0.65
APR:
0.14
United States Tyler 'Skadoodle' Latham
Tyler 'Skadoodle' Latham
Age:
26
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
1.06
Maps played:
1047
KPR:
0.68
DPR:
0.59
APR:
0.11
France Christophe 'SIXER' Xia
Christophe 'SIXER' Xia
Age:
28
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.96
Maps played:
582
KPR:
0.64
DPR:
0.64
APR:
0.10
Denmark Lukas 'gla1ve' Rossander
Lukas 'gla1ve' Rossander
Age:
24
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.01
Maps played:
1267
KPR:
0.68
DPR:
0.65
APR:
0.17
Brazil Ricardo 'boltz' Prass
Ricardo 'boltz' Prass
Age:
22
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.06
Maps played:
959
KPR:
0.71
DPR:
0.64
APR:
0.17
United States William 'RUSH' Wierzba
William 'RUSH' Wierzba
Age:
25
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.01
Maps played:
993
KPR:
0.69
DPR:
0.67
APR:
0.15
Belgium Adil 'ScreaM' Benrlitom
Adil 'ScreaM' Benrlitom
Age:
25
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
1.09
Maps played:
1430
KPR:
0.74
DPR:
0.66
APR:
0.12
Sweden Fredrik 'REZ' Sterner
Fredrik 'REZ' Sterner
Age:
21
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.03
Maps played:
899
KPR:
0.70
DPR:
0.66
APR:
0.14
Mongolia Enkhtaivan 'Machinegun' Lkhagva
Enkhtaivan 'Machinegun' Lkhagva
Age:
29
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.10
Maps played:
370
KPR:
0.77
DPR:
0.70
APR:
0.13
ay im back
2017-11-16 00:11
damn nice, Thoughts on ss getting rekt by a 15 year old?
2017-11-16 00:11
#46
Portugal phvm 
Ma boy skadoodle makes only 4 kills against envy, but against the best team of the world he drops 30, logic Ps: boltz look like the girl from minecon that says detated WAM
2017-11-16 00:16
#67
axoN | 
Portugal sn0rlax 
sk throw the game so astralis get eliminated !
2017-11-16 00:25
#122
KK | 
Denmark s0denone 
u know sk was throwing, right? If they lose to c9 Astralis is eliminated sk vs astralis is 50/50 many times, but sk vs c9 is 90/10 if sk is actually trying lol so obv they lose to give themselves easier time in rest of tourney
2017-11-16 06:21
this is pure facts :)
2017-11-16 08:01
#144
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United States Doge14 
But because they lost they had a chance of being eliminated. I doubt they would risk getting out for Australia to get out
2017-11-16 14:57
#145
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United States Doge14 
Astralis
2017-11-16 14:57
#131
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Switzerland Alzameister 
you heard about inconsistency and that you cant hit 30 bombs every game?
2017-11-16 09:43
no paz. despe is bad. ngin has no working arm. was expected. sad that paz had a surgery. they needed someone like mini and got rid of despe ages ago. im still delighted vp got rekt and cant make it to epl straight. hopefully ago will go through cuz 15 year old kid cant play epl. and ago is a better team imo.
2017-11-16 00:40
idk though. space has to play vp now... it usually goes all three maps and VP takes it over at the very end. gl though. I just want extatus to go through, them niggas were playing open at Janurary of this year.
2017-11-16 00:44
ye vp is shit. but ss seems shittier atm. so vp probably takes it. srsly sad that ss made ecs dev league finals twice to lose to vp. and now they going to fail to make it to invite. they could have made tides and waves if they were in on both leagues. would ve been great for the scene here. extatus are alrite but comingftom open doesnt really mean that much seeing as they were almost all semipros before. ago on the other handonly has guby and furlan with the xp. the other 3 came out of nowhere. still truth be told i dont really care. i want rise nation and soar to make it and maybe gx as well. na premier is way more fun.
2017-11-16 00:49
+1
2017-11-16 00:11
#27
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Sweden Dino1 
Hi HLTV admin
2017-11-16 00:12
Go back to reddit.
2017-11-16 00:12
was here first
2017-11-16 00:12
#34
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Brazil Neegger 
nip major qualifier chokers confirmed
2017-11-16 00:12
#2
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United Kingdom Tendies 
Good upset by Astralis
2017-11-16 00:10
#20
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Sweden Dino1 
XD
2017-11-16 00:11
f0rest!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! <333333333333333333333333333333
2017-11-16 00:25
#3
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Brazil Pedrolc22 
Wow
2017-11-16 00:10
Cry is free?
2017-11-16 01:56
Fuk
2017-11-16 00:10
Easy for Skadaddy
2017-11-16 00:11
#12
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Brazil magzera 
go sk!
2017-11-16 00:11
-1
2017-11-16 00:12
SK dudu
2017-11-16 00:37
#6
United States n0clu 
n1
2017-11-16 00:10
#7
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Brazil wGabe2k 
Lololo
2017-11-16 00:11
#8
gas | 
Austria Phil_1337 
Astralis won the last 3 matches and is still out? wtf
2017-11-16 00:12
#48
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United States Noelstar123 
Well they won a OT so they only got 2 points, and that adds to their 6 points to equal 8, and SK had 2 wins with 1 OT win(which gives them 2 points) and one OT lose (which gives them 1 point) so that equals 9 so they have 1 point ahead of astralis, basically saying they go to playoffs instead of Astralis
2017-11-16 00:18
#50
gas | 
Austria Phil_1337 
This system sucks
2017-11-16 00:20
Yes, a win should be a win....
2017-11-16 00:22
#80
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Finland Strobester231 
No not really. As it is impossible to get a tie whereby both teams get 1 point, a game being split 15-15 and then going into overtime is essentially a tie + a few rounds to see who wins. If the two teams get to the 15-15 tie point, like every other real sport, they get 1 point and then the winner of OT is awarded 1 extra point basically for winning 4/6 rounds.
2017-11-16 00:36
#92
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Brazil Matheuscgc 
It should be like in the NHL. Full poits to the winner and a 'consolation' point to the loser. A point shouldn't be removed from the winner in any situation thats why a 16-0 worth the same as a 16-14.
2017-11-16 00:45
Well 16-0 is worth the same as 16-14. Personally i agree with the full point to the winner no matter what happenend.
2017-11-16 01:30
I think you're the only person that thinks that, even gla1ve from AST thinks its a better system.
2017-11-17 01:57
#9
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Sweden Holsik83 
1
2017-11-16 00:11
#10
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Paraguay imjustmau 
SK sold out confirmed
2017-11-16 00:11
damn
2017-11-16 00:11
#13
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United States Globebuster 
LUL
2017-11-16 00:11
#15
Nodios | 
Liechtenstein diosf 
01
2017-11-16 00:11
#16
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Norway LogiC_ 
lul
2017-11-16 00:11
LOL ASTRALIS BYE XD
2017-11-16 00:11
-TACO
2017-11-16 00:11
#21
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Russia v1p3rrr 
fuck sk
2017-11-16 00:11
Cry is free
2017-11-16 14:45
#151
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Russia v1p3rrr 
lmao sk lost to c9 who were playing like shit and lost to envy
2017-11-16 18:46
#22
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Pakistan perth 
rip australias
2017-11-16 00:11
#93
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African Union mikecool 
Damn. Beat me to it!
2017-11-16 00:46
#23
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Latvia Faaakk 
Some damn fine CS from the guys in last two days, warms my heart! #GONINJAS <333
2017-11-16 00:11
yeah it's good to see f0rest playing like a beast again.
2017-11-16 09:06
#24
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Netherlands EJVN 
the difference between bot ska and bot taco is ska will win you the game every now and then.
2017-11-16 00:11
#39
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Brazil davidzor 
+1
2017-11-16 00:13
Xddddd +1
2017-11-16 10:24
I love how even brazilians hate TACO
2017-11-16 15:40
#25
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North America Jxmes 
Gg
2017-11-16 00:11
c9 will win it easy for them
2017-11-16 00:12
2.12 damn
2017-11-16 00:12
"-skadoodle" lulz
2017-11-16 00:12
#31
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Norway Phancy11 
That first game without dev1ce cost astralis playoffs spot. GG nicolai.
2017-11-16 00:12
#134
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Serbia VLDNNNN 
actually no, cuz they lost the game against c9 ( which should be easier than nip ) even with device
2017-11-16 12:41
#36
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Finland kommunisti 
Damn, REZ is beasting
2017-11-16 00:13
Skadoodle is a weird player lol
2017-11-16 00:13
#38
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Brazil FaZe_Top_One 
Cry is free
2017-11-16 00:13
SK 3rd in this group and people call them the best in the world
2017-11-16 00:13
#44
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Brazil davidzor 
They were playing the whole series with 4 and 1 decoy. How come they are not the best Kappa.
2017-11-16 00:14
#51
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Brazil Marcola 
Exaclty, but they needed some red bull to carry the decoy the rest of the playoffs
2017-11-16 00:20
who is decoy?
2017-11-16 00:20
#56
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Brazil davidzor 
You don`t know? Seriously?
2017-11-16 00:21
taco
2017-11-16 00:24
fer he wasn't on a good day
2017-11-16 00:24
Kek.
2017-11-16 00:38
BO1 my friend
2017-11-16 02:09
Should we remind you of NIP's rankings in every tournament?
2017-11-16 04:27
do it please :) (not a NiP fan). Cheering for c9 this tournament though!
2017-11-17 12:31
when you can lose a game and get into playoffs and win a game and not get into play offs. why do they even put those type of games in?
2017-11-16 00:14
Have you not ever played real sports on a team? Such as hockey? This type of stuff happens all the time in tournaments; technicalities etc.
2017-11-16 05:52
The team finishin 4th gets nore money then placed 5th
2017-11-16 09:04
HAHAHAHHAHAH
2017-11-16 00:14
Sk and Astralis should play again?? they both won in overtime??
2017-11-16 00:14
SK cunts
2017-11-16 00:16
#47
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Brazil Marcola 
Ez for taco
2017-11-16 00:17
TOP4 this tournament: NIP,SK,FAZE,LIQUID
2017-11-16 00:19
#53
FalleN | 
Brazil paumito 
"Taco is so important for SK. He has such a difficult role to play." Apex is IGL and can entry frag better than Taco. His fans excuses suck. Oh, and no one explains why he is even worse as CT compared to T, does he have a different role as CT as well? Retards.
2017-11-16 00:20
apex isn't the igl lol
2017-11-16 00:25
#72
FalleN | 
Brazil paumito 
KYS
2017-11-16 00:27
kys
2017-11-16 00:44
NiP haters BTFO
2017-11-16 00:21
SK throwing to get Astralis out... where the fuck is the sportsmanship.
2017-11-16 00:21
If Envyus had won against NIP they would be eliminated. Do you think SK players are betters? "We throw this match while betting NIP will win". Think one time before spread dumbness.
2017-11-16 00:29
#94
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Brazil Matheuscgc 
in this case a 3-way-tiebreaker will need to happen. SK would out only if nV-nip ended in a OT.
2017-11-16 00:47
So you are telling me Astralis wouldn't do the same if given the chance? lol get your head out of your ass
2017-11-16 04:29
#57
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Russia Rusev 
Astralis out BEST EVENT EVER
2017-11-16 00:22
Why are you against Astralis? I can understand that you want a certain team to win, but don't see why you would actively be against someone.
2017-11-16 01:45
#59
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Bulgaria RWD5kEZ 
In the end, NiP ended up on top of the group and with a spot directly in the semi-final, GG NiP EZ FOR NIP this year aaswell ;)
2017-11-16 00:22
#60
f0rest | 
Serbia dankooo 
Taco is so bad
2017-11-16 00:22
GoNinjas!
2017-11-16 00:23
After watching the SK vs. Cloud9 game I feel that they should not get away with this. SK lose this game on purpose. Its many situations that you can se they dont play the way "pro" players do, they push when they should not, they stay in same poss alot so they get naded, if this was a FINALE they whould never make mistakes like this, if this was a opening game in this event they whould not make that many mistakes. So I hope they match will be checked if they find any proof at all. SK should get a year BAN from the scene. This is just sick that they do this to get rid of Astralis. Yes Astralis is a better team then C9 in the long run of a torney, but come on SK. Have some pride!
2017-11-16 00:23
Agree
2017-11-16 00:27
NiP vs ENV was happening at the same time SK vs C9. Do you think SK would thrown this match to eliminate AST taking the risk to get eliminated if ENV had won against NiP? LOL
2017-11-16 00:32
Such BS from a cry baby, all you have to do is win your games, then you don't need others to do it for you.
2017-11-16 00:48
it was a tactical loss. this is what happens in formats like this.
2017-11-16 00:49
I am not a fan of SK but if they had to ban them means less views and less money. CSGO is slowly dying IMO and cutting off the best teams is not the best idea for the organizers
2017-11-16 01:17
Slowly dying when??
2017-11-16 14:52
+1
2017-11-16 09:06
#148
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Other cyLoL 
Just a reminder Astralis lost to c9 this event and you say they are a better team .... maybe they arnt meant to be in the playoffs if this event cuz they are playing like shit
2017-11-16 18:07
#63
f0rest | 
China ZerOck 
GL NiP
2017-11-16 00:23
A-S-T-R-A-L-I-S E-L-I-M-I-N-A-T-E-D
2017-11-16 00:25
And so are Envy and TheMongolz. Whats ur point?
2017-11-16 00:29
My point is.. Where's Norway CS ?
2017-11-16 00:42
Hehehe n1 mai bouy
2017-11-16 14:47
xD DE_stroyed
2017-11-16 15:13
#71
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United States Sab0t_K1tty 
This overtime system is awful and rewards losing, reduces competitivity and favors subpar teams overall.
2017-11-16 00:26
Sk throw the map af.. they picked train even when cloud9 was reking astralis on the map yesterday ahahha
2017-11-16 00:33
#83
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Brazil wonderful861 
BOTACO 5/20
2017-11-16 00:38
Nip is going to get fucked if they meet FaZe
2017-11-16 00:41
What a shitty system. Round robin is a joke.
2017-11-16 00:42
#89
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Brazil ragemasterBR 
Disband Envyus please, trash playing, lack of tatics, bad aim, disturbed minds, so retarded, adding nothing to the cs scenario, BYE ENVYUS
2017-11-16 00:43
kkkkkkkk
2017-11-16 00:48
#103
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Sweden TomodachiOM 
How much?
2017-11-16 01:25
#99
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Bulgaria vectralsoul 
Mongols @ IEM Katowice 2016 / 0-5 / 28-80 / 0 points Mongols @ IEM Oakland 2017 / 0-5 / 38-80 / 0 points Progress boys, LUL
2017-11-16 00:51
#100
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Brazil hugoooo 
TACO literally make SK lost matches today.
2017-11-16 01:11
#113
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Brazil ragemasterBR 
I like TAC0 so much, but i agree with you, his role was not filled today
2017-11-16 02:58
skadoodle remembered to turn his monitor on
2017-11-16 01:18
-SIXER -xms +KennyS +Shoxie Real french superteam
2017-11-16 01:32
astralis LMAO
2017-11-16 02:12
#110
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Denmark Xipingu 
Rip system lmao
2017-11-16 02:38
fuck yeah nip
2017-11-16 02:51
Taco was a completely shit in both games. He had Astralis players on back and took out a knife do throw a decider round.
2017-11-16 02:54
#114
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India nicebaitm8 
If only NiP plays like this in minor quals :/
2017-11-16 03:36
#115
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Singapore chaozzzyyy 
NiP= the kind of team that does well against Tier 1 teams but lose against Tier 3 and 4 teams
2017-11-16 03:38
You wish fanboy
2017-11-16 12:51
Can anyone explain to me why astralis was eliminated pls? Poor Device
2017-11-16 04:20
You goddamn cucks act like this is the first time this has happened in the history of CS. Teams have thrown matches to drop down to lower bracket for easier path in the tournament including your Swedish saints all the time. Gtfo here with your sportsmanship speech and holier than thou attitude. Edit: Stop calling out the system coz your fav team lost or is out. If SK lost that way, there would be 20 monkey threads by Danes right now dancing with their dicks out
2017-11-16 04:35
+1 also nice RAS-Syndrome
2017-11-16 10:00
expected from murica
2017-11-16 12:44
+1 Kids will be kids. Its by the rules so nothin uncommon there.
2017-11-16 14:55
#121
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Korea JamesSung 
TACO is trash as fuck
2017-11-16 06:01
#123
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Greece knk74 
Fuck you sk But ast deserved it
2017-11-16 06:53
Daaaamn,feels bad for Astralis,device's illness hurted them so much,if they wouldn't had to play with zonic in the first match they would've went through most likely,they got unlucky af
2017-11-16 08:49
#126
f0rest | 
China ZerOck 
gOgogoOoo NiP
2017-11-16 08:49
danish cs xDDdD
2017-11-16 09:02
astralis choking nothing new to see here bois thank mr chokestralis #banemilia #emiliadestroyedastralis #freedevve #devvedidnothingwrong
2017-11-16 12:43
ScreaM went out in groups, what a surprise. L M A O
2017-11-16 12:47
#139
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Brazil GuiHawk 
Easy peasy for VACO.
2017-11-16 13:42
#149
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Other cyLoL 
Cry is free for danishland
2017-11-16 18:08
Ska god
2017-11-16 18:25
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