Astralis could skip EPL S6 Finals as device will miss event - Report

Nicolai "device" Reedtz will miss another event, ESL Pro League Season 6 Finals, with Astralis ready to pull out of the tournament in case WESA disallows the team from using Dennis "dennis" Edman.

According to a source close to the team, Nicolai "⁠device⁠" Reedtz's slow recovery will prevent him from attending ESL Pro League Season 6 Finals with Astralis, who had just played BLAST Pro Series with Dennis "⁠dennis⁠" Edman as a stand-in this weekend.

Astralis are looking into using the Swede once more at the Pro League Finals in Odense. Their situation can be compared to Liquid, who will have to use Wilton "⁠zews⁠" Prado at the finals as Lucas "⁠steel⁠" Lopes wasn't allowed to play by WESA. That may become an issue for Astralis, as dennis also played the full online season of ESL Pro League with another team, GODSENT.

device's health issues continue

In case WESA denies Astralis their appeal regarding dennis, the team will pull out of ESL Pro League Season 6 Finals altogether, the source says.

When reached for a comment, RFRSH CEO Nikolaj Nyholm told HLTV.org that Astralis "are currently in talks with WESA and ESL about the situation".

Brazil Lucas 'steel' Lopes
Lucas 'steel' Lopes
Age:
24
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.00
Maps played:
538
KPR:
0.67
DPR:
0.65
Denmark Nicolai 'device' Reedtz
Nicolai 'device' Reedtz
Age:
22
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.16
Maps played:
1009
KPR:
0.78
DPR:
0.63
Sweden Dennis 'dennis' Edman
Dennis 'dennis' Edman
Age:
26
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
1.05
Maps played:
708
KPR:
0.73
DPR:
0.68
#1
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Russia MahoneDes
fuck
2017-11-27 15:21
30 replies
#5
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Turkey Mustafa-
use dennis what
2017-11-27 15:21
27 replies
#7
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Denmark goFaZe!
GG
2017-11-27 15:21
10 replies
NO OMFG
2017-11-27 15:21
8 replies
rip
2017-11-27 15:22
Er rasiert Hard genug bloß wer spielt jetzt die awp??
2017-11-27 16:27
6 replies
Huansohn nazi
2017-11-27 17:09
#247
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Germany sommares
dupreeh
2017-11-27 17:41
dupreeh ofc
2017-11-27 18:19
#279
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Hungary Axelboi
Dupreeh insane awper as we discovered
2017-11-27 18:47
2 replies
fucking insane awper indeed
2017-11-27 19:23
#333
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Brazil Skrol
+1
2017-11-28 17:24
Plasticfazefangay
2017-11-27 16:00
#36
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Russia MahoneDes
read the article - dennis may not be allowed to play
2017-11-27 15:23
12 replies
Is it because he played on Godsent? And they can't get Pimp either?
2017-11-27 15:36
11 replies
#87
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Russia MahoneDes
Yes, that's why SK can't use boltz either. I guess they can use another stand-in but they don't want to? This is so strange.
2017-11-27 15:37
5 replies
boltz is allowed to play ESL pro league, only ECS(they did not qualify anyway) and the Major
2017-11-27 16:18
4 replies
Why can’t sk play with Boltz at the major they still have 4/5 players that attained that legends spot and they only need 3/5 I missing something
2017-11-28 03:45
3 replies
He played with IMT and NA qualifier. Steel can’t play at the Major Qualifier cuz he was with IMT. But idk if that carriers over to the Major
2017-11-28 04:52
2 replies
it does
2017-11-28 11:55
1 reply
There is also the thing with disco doplan, he played the EU minor open qualifier, and did qualify for the minor, but he didn't play at the actual minor with epsilon. While boltz and steel played the closed qualifier, which is still online portion of the qualifier, the difference that disco was allowed to play for fnatic in the major, but boltz and steel are not. So NA get screwed because they have a "closed qualifier" and EU haven't? how do make the ruling in this situation?
2017-11-28 13:53
#121
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Denmark MeToxi
They probably can get pimp, they just want dennis
2017-11-27 15:55
4 replies
#135
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North America Krulcifer
I would want dennis too he played well and they almost won with him
2017-11-27 16:00
3 replies
#140
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Denmark MeToxi
Yeah. Its actually pretty amazing ;P I really hope that he'll be allowed to play. If not, it'll be a waste of my money.
2017-11-27 16:02
2 replies
#144
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North America Krulcifer
Im not a fan of Astralis but I really wanted them to win lol Lowkey disappointed but ill be rooting for them if they play with dennis
2017-11-27 16:05
1 reply
+1
2017-11-27 16:08
If you actually read, they cannot use dennis because of WESA rules
2017-11-27 16:19
2 replies
That's why they are making an appeal to see if they can get an exception.
2017-11-27 17:50
1 reply
i hope this appeal goes through :3
2017-11-29 19:09
Expected
2017-11-27 17:15
dennis is not bad for astralis look at blast pro series how good he was with them. dont wanna call him out
2017-11-28 08:57
#2
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Germany ceeazy
gg
2017-11-27 15:21
Rip device
2017-11-27 15:21
#4
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Netherlands ImKuru
Why
2017-11-27 15:21
dennis is better anyways
2017-11-27 15:21
6 replies
#58
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Hungary Shaperz
Did you even read the article?
2017-11-27 15:30
5 replies
dennis is better anyways
2017-11-27 15:42
3 replies
Did you even read the article?
2017-11-27 17:50
2 replies
Dennis is even read the better article
2017-11-28 00:20
1 reply
The Article Did you read it even?
2017-11-28 00:52
yes
2017-11-27 15:42
LOL XDD
2017-11-27 15:21
Use pimp then
2017-11-27 15:22
2 replies
Or zonic. If they pull out they are spoilt children and should be punished for it imo.
2017-11-27 18:08
pimp is an analyst at the event :/ lol
2017-11-28 00:49
Ez VP invite
2017-11-27 15:22
8 replies
#29
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Russia v1p3rrr
hahahahahahahahahah
2017-11-27 15:23
#46
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Libya nanaichini
EZ VP 4Head
2017-11-27 15:24
lol only thing VP qualifed for is the relegation
2017-11-27 15:47
2 replies
#154
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France t3r4byt3
they didn't even qualify for that, they lost to Space Soldiers
2017-11-27 16:10
1 reply
lmao
2017-11-27 16:47
HAHAHAHAHA
2017-11-27 16:55
+1
2017-11-27 17:17
+1
2017-11-28 09:55
#14
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Thailand UFRT1945
how about pimp?
2017-11-27 15:22
maikelele awper ....
2017-11-27 15:22
1 reply
maikelele is overrated
2017-11-27 16:06
gg
2017-11-27 15:22
#17
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Portugal smokey8
use zonic
2017-11-27 15:22
#19
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India MONKS
Can't they use pimp?
2017-11-27 15:22
3 replies
Nope, they either have to play with zonic or withdraw from the tournament.
2017-11-27 15:26
1 reply
#129
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India MONKS
Thanks
2017-11-27 15:58
i think they can use him since he didnt play with a pro league team this season. But obviously astralis doesnt want to play with pimp
2017-11-27 16:07
devve :O T_T
2017-11-27 15:22
Omg :(
2017-11-27 15:22
#22
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Russia v1p3rrr
god zonic's time?
2017-11-27 15:22
#23
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Mauritius Parasyte
pimp is not in the esl pro league roster as stand in ?
2017-11-27 15:22
2 replies
He is surprisingly talented. Would be an excellent support player. Idk how he doesn’t have a team
2017-11-28 04:58
1 reply
He didn't want to play on a team after leaving Liquid
2017-11-28 05:56
nooooooo
2017-11-27 15:22
get well devve
2017-11-27 15:22
#27
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Denmark BATISTUTA9
If Astralis pulls out of that event, it will be a huge blow for ESL. I was present in the BLAST Arena this weekend, and Astralis was atleast 90% of the crowd
2017-11-27 15:22
27 replies
can't they just play with zonic?
2017-11-27 15:24
8 replies
They don't want to, and therefore they threaten ESL to withdraw, knowing that it will be such a blow for ESL to not have Astralis there. I think it's a good and smart move from them, fuck TO and their stupid roster lock rules
2017-11-27 15:31
7 replies
At the same time, if ESL accepts Astralis conditions then they MUST let also Liquid play for steel, otherwise they would be so much criticized
2017-11-27 15:32
4 replies
#80
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India Ad1_KaM
Yeah, else that'll have a backlash of its own. I think astralis best go with zonic than fuck up anything in the scene!
2017-11-27 15:35
1 reply
Hope they man up and don't
2017-11-27 15:36
ESL loves scandals bro, if they let Astralis play with dennis and say a "no" to Liquid i won't be surpised. Roster lock is not a bad thing imo but if there's a problem about someone's health, you should help them. dennis was a player of GODSENT and could be unavailable but Astralis can take Pimp.
2017-11-27 15:54
1 reply
#245
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Japan anikatoru
+1
2017-11-27 17:39
#110
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Sweden Div-\
+1
2017-11-27 15:48
Why is that stupid? It's similar in football. A player, who played ni CL this season can't play for another team. So why is it stupid in this case? TL can use zews, he is the coach and was on the team the whole season. Astralis also has a coach, who could play - but they don't want to and ESL should follow their own rules.
2017-11-27 17:35
#44
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Australia USTlLO
+1 very good statement
2017-11-27 15:24
They can still cheer for North heh.
2017-11-27 15:27
2 replies
Yes but north sucks and they don't have the fan base, sure their might be a little cheer here and there, but it would still be a huge blow for esl as he said
2017-11-27 15:33
the fanbase of Astralis is much bigger so they outclass North in terms of popularity (likely due to k0nfig's arrogance and cockiness)
2017-11-27 20:39
it's not like astralis has no other option. they played good with dennis and it's obvious to use him again, but there are rules.... they either allow steel/boltz to play for liquid and sk respectively as well or they deny just all 3. i don't see an other fair solution. also with a prize pool of 750k i don't see why trying with zonic to reach maybe top 5-8 for a lot of cash is no option here. or playing for the fans in general. dumb move to say take it or leave it and i guess it fires back soon enough
2017-11-27 15:32
10 replies
The other situations are not like this one. There is a medical issue preventing their 5th from playing not a change of roster like the other 2 teas in your comment
2017-11-27 15:43
9 replies
it's not about 1 player missing in whatever team, it's 1 player filling in who played the whole season 6 for an other team. that's the point
2017-11-27 15:45
8 replies
I disagree. This is a different circumstance. While I think they will not be allowed to use Dennis and it is stupid not to compete with someone, there has to be some emergency situations that allow for Dennis to play. I think they play no matter what and should imo
2017-11-27 15:49
7 replies
they should just allow all 3 players in case they are not under contract with an other org involved in pro league 6. also they have the chance to pick up a player out of millions, just not one that played a whole season in this current league. so it's not like they have no option. it's a low attempt to blackmail esl as their fanbase could boycott the tournament. while it's obvious why they want dennis, the rules are there for something
2017-11-27 15:52
6 replies
SK/Liquid were roster moves, while the case of Astralis is a medical issue. Astralis should be allowed to use a stand in for the tournament since its a medical issue and not just a roster change.
2017-11-27 16:10
1 reply
sk is able to use a standin, you misunderstand this news. they also used pimp for their last league matches. there is only a conflict because dennis played the season for a different team, astralis is free to use one out of million csgo players tho including pimp or even their coach
2017-11-27 16:14
There aren't many good options
2017-11-27 16:14
3 replies
well last year 11-12th got 33k prize money, so after playing a whole season i would rather play 4on5 / with coach than withdraw
2017-11-27 16:15
2 replies
33k is not that much for them, I think they would like to bash ESL more than 33k because this rule is stupid
2017-11-27 16:17
1 reply
free money is free money + they could play in front of their fans. bitch move to pressure esl like that when the rules are clear
2017-11-27 16:20
Hello, I thought astralis Were going to use pimp in EPL finals? And also, do you know how is boltz allowed to play by SK? Thank you
2017-11-27 15:33
2 replies
I believe the rule states a player cannot play for the new team if they played the entire season with another team already. Boltz did not play the entire season where steel did and so did Dennis
2017-11-27 17:42
1 reply
I see. Thank you my friend
2017-11-27 18:18
just let dev1ce use teamviewer to play from home ezpz
2017-11-27 15:23
5 replies
Lmao fuck this guy figured it out xD +1
2017-11-27 16:06
1 reply
1000IQ xD
2017-11-28 12:33
Ez mvp 100+ping
2017-11-27 16:57
2 replies
They both in denmark ;) ez 1 ping
2017-11-28 12:33
1 reply
Hospital wifi
2017-11-28 12:38
g2 ?
2017-11-27 15:23
WESA is fucking them in a really sad situation with one of their players, quite shitty tbh
2017-11-27 15:23
Why not use Zonic or Pimp?
2017-11-27 15:23
2 replies
probably after their suprisingly good blastpro lan they want to use the good mood/chemistry with dennis and want to put pressure on esl now
2017-11-27 16:18
1 reply
Yeah, i think Astralis will not skip in the end, but are just using this to pressure TO's and Valve to change the stupid roster lock rules just like everyone in the community is doing rn (players, analysts etc).
2017-11-27 17:30
What is he recovering from, exactly?
2017-11-27 15:23
10 replies
Can anyone else than premature kids answer this?
2017-11-27 15:25
7 replies
He has some problems in his stomach, mate. I didn't read the article, but I think you can read about it here cybbet.com/news/3913-Nikolay-device-Ried..
2017-11-27 15:31
1 reply
Aight, thanks!
2017-11-27 15:32
#62
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Hungary Shaperz
I would like to know that too
2017-11-27 15:32
1 reply
Hiatus hernia something
2017-11-27 15:34
gastro-oesophageal reflux disease
2017-11-27 15:32
#77
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Brazil Matheuscgc
I don't think they made public what is his illness about
2017-11-27 15:35
1 reply
#335
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Denmark Enggaard
Its Hiatus Hernie
2017-11-28 21:51
Cancer.
2017-11-27 16:01
1 reply
this isnt the time for cancer jokes dimwit
2017-11-27 20:39
#38
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Finland Emvi
Thank you WESA! Looking after the players /s
2017-11-27 15:23
What did i fucking say
2017-11-27 15:23
#40
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Norway Phancy11
It must be some exceptions! It's not like liquid situation when they swap players just to perform better, there is health issue. Astralis have to get chance to play with stand in.
2017-11-27 15:24
1 reply
there are clear rules in place in case of illness. astralis CAN play with a stand-in, just not someone who's already played the season on another team (dennis played on godsent). and they specifically want dennis to perform better than with another stand-in, so in that regard it's not really all that different from liquid.
2017-11-27 17:59
#41
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Brazil davidzor
What a shit outcome. What is happening with Device man?
2017-11-27 15:24
1 reply
Missed 3 premier tourneys But still mvp of all of them
2017-11-27 16:58
:( going to cry now
2017-11-27 15:25
What about boltz in SK?
2017-11-27 15:25
5 replies
per se not allowed
2017-11-27 15:30
#69
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Brazil davidzor
It seems he will be allowed to play
2017-11-27 15:33
#88
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Brazil maximoff66
He didn't played the Full Seasons for immortals
2017-11-27 15:38
2 replies
oh, thank you for the clarification. I believe this rule is too strict, it should be relaxed to allow for at least one change due to exceptional conditions.
2017-11-27 15:41
1 reply
Agreed
2017-11-27 22:36
FAK
2017-11-27 15:25
Just use pimp/dennis/zonic/ETC instead.
2017-11-27 15:26
2 replies
dennis instead of dennis?
2017-11-27 15:37
1 reply
read only the title, and LUL why threaten to leave unless you can use dennis, just use some danish dood that didnt play eksdeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee or zonic.
2017-11-27 15:44
#55
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Denmark slacking
just ake pimp or any other player? lol fuck G2
2017-11-27 15:27
it would be a complete joke if they allowed dennis here and deny steel. on the other hand why would u play a whole season just to drop out last second? why not play with zonic or even someone random? 750k prize pool and they have still a good chance to make top8 maybe even top5. if they used it as a pressure it will be a complete fail i guess. too bad
2017-11-27 15:29
2 replies
I think it's to put pressure on ESL, because they know the fan base will be all Astralis, and if they don't come, then the event would be pure trash
2017-11-27 15:35
1 reply
yea i think so too, but as i said above i assume it will fire back sooner than they think everyone knows esl does everything to get vp back to pro league with their constant rule changes etc to get back their fanbase, but after that steel decision (and open boltz decision) it's unprofessional to decide anything else. looking at season 5 finals prize distribution hltv.org/events/2557/esl-pro-league-seas.. even 12th place gets 33k so what a fucking dumb move to pull out imo. not that i don't understand why they want to play with dennis or anything, but they should play alone for the fans and in worst case with zonic. that's his job
2017-11-27 15:39
invite VP or NAVI
2017-11-27 15:30
1 reply
we invited vp because of a popular fan vote f
2017-11-27 16:59
Allow both dennis and steel pls
2017-11-27 15:35
#79
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Jordan LBJ
Just kick BOT device and pick dennis
2017-11-27 15:35
1 reply
i agree +1 good point dennis is a god
2017-11-27 15:40
DENNIS PLZ <3
2017-11-27 15:36
rekt by wesa lulululuululul
2017-11-27 15:37
and pimp?
2017-11-27 15:38
they could use zonic no?
2017-11-27 15:39
why they skip? they can play with stand-in right?
2017-11-27 15:41
1 reply
they can, there's only a conflict because dennis played the current season for godsent they can also use zonic without a problem. not that it's too great, but last season 33k prize for 11-12th soo....
2017-11-27 15:59
device should retire
2017-11-27 15:42
2 replies
Even if devve retires he will be the mvp of every tourney ast attends
2017-11-27 17:00
if his condition gets even worse after his recovery then he should, otherwise he'll just meet his own end like that
2017-11-27 20:40
uurgh seems like a low attempt to bully ESL into bending their rules. I hope it backfires
2017-11-27 15:44
b.. b.. b... but.. dennis :,,(
2017-11-27 15:44
well it is only fair that dennis can't play because Liquid can't have steel...
2017-11-27 15:45
2017-11-27 15:46
Whats happening to device? Is he ok?
2017-11-27 15:46
Umm if Liquid can use Zews then they can use Zonic right? unless I'm missing something obvious.
2017-11-27 15:47
2 replies
yeah zews -> decent zonic -> old trash
2017-11-27 15:51
1 reply
Stopped reading at "zews -> decent"
2017-11-27 21:09
GO G2
2017-11-27 15:49
And the wildcard? Virtus motherfucking Pro
2017-11-27 15:52
5 replies
too lazy to read their shitty rules, but pretty sure it'd be g2
2017-11-27 15:58
4 replies
yeah I was just joking obviously it should go to whatever team finished just below HR, which is G2 in this case (unless they aren't able to show up for whatever reason)
2017-11-27 16:03
3 replies
i won't be suprised to see vp tho, esl tried so hard :D - more teams - bo3 double elimination relegation - mdl league all changes by esl over the past 2/3 seasons to get vp back in pro league
2017-11-27 16:13
2 replies
lol yeah they aren't even trying to hide it :D
2017-11-27 16:14
1 reply
And vp says NO ESEA MAIN IS BEST LEAGUE FAK U ESL
2017-11-27 17:02
i hope they allow dennis
2017-11-27 15:53
Why all the outcry. rules are rules.
2017-11-27 15:55
F*CK YOU WESA
2017-11-27 15:57
#126
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Portugal ReiMydas
These rules need to be updated to real world situations :(
2017-11-27 15:58
One of these scenarios will happen : - ESL refuse and Astralis skip - ESL refuse and Astralis use Zonic - ESL change rules and allow both Dennis and Steel to play
2017-11-27 15:58
3 replies
And Boltz i guess
2017-11-27 16:38
do you actually think steel can get a visa in time ?
2017-11-27 17:32
1 reply
Oh damn I completely forgot the tournament isn't in NA idk why I thought it was well that changes things.
2017-11-27 17:53
WESA is a monopolistic piece of shit. It is really weird that despite knowing these terms, a lot of teams have joined it.
2017-11-27 15:58
1 reply
wesa fucks esports
2017-11-27 17:02
#131
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Luxembourg alex24
dennis > > device anyways
2017-11-27 15:59
use swag then
2017-11-27 15:59
HOLY SHIT astralis skips - VP invited - VP win EPL lan - get invited to EPL online
2017-11-27 16:00
2017-11-27 16:00
1 reply
Rules are restrictive for a good reason so you can't just buy out the other team mid season.
2017-11-27 16:03
Who would replace them
2017-11-27 16:01
here comes VP!
2017-11-27 16:06
Emilia Hult can be stand-in, ez Asstralis
2017-11-27 16:07
cmon esl do something, yes dennis played for godsent so what?
2017-11-27 16:09
11 replies
rules are rules. they can use another stand-in, why the fuck should ESL bend the rules just so Astralis can have dennis when there are hundreds of other players to choose from
2017-11-27 16:12
10 replies
boltz, steel, dennis seriously we are talking about 3 teams here
2017-11-27 16:14
9 replies
Boltz is gonna play for SK.. Boltz played 21 matches.. Steel and dennis played more the 25 matches.. The limit is 25..
2017-11-27 16:17
2 replies
wow now that's really unfair if u play for 24 matches it's okey, if u play 26 matches you can't
2017-11-27 16:20
1 reply
how is that unfair lmao, they've got to set the limit somewhere. teams knew the rules in advance, this shouldn't come as a suprise for them
2017-11-27 16:22
so what? just use another stand-in, its one event. they shouldn't get special treatment when other teams follow the rules
2017-11-27 16:19
5 replies
dude even constitutions can change, why the fuck esl rules can't change?
2017-11-27 16:22
4 replies
ofc the rules can change, they can change for the next season. not fair to the other teams if they can just change the rules whenever they want to please the large orgs however, right before the finals
2017-11-27 16:25
3 replies
for me it couldn't be problem. liquid and astralis aggrieved rn 2 teams of 10 teams(1/5) i mean yes liquid knew rules but astralis? device is sick now this is not typical roster change so they can change rules from now, but also i got your point: changing rules immediately for just threat from one team, could be awkward/pussy move
2017-11-27 16:32
2 replies
Not only awkward.. Astralis have other options they’re just trying to force esl to change the rules so they can play with their 1st choice. It’s true that device is sick and u can’t know it in before but Astralis Are just cocky because they don’t get what they want...
2017-11-27 18:45
1 reply
yes you are right but i'm with them cuz i want to see dennis in astralis hudi again
2017-11-27 18:46
What a shame two of the better teams will be playing with stand ins, or in the case of Astralis, not at all Hopefully they can be replaced by G2, the 7th place team in EU
2017-11-27 16:18
who need that event? we rich af ~Astralis
2017-11-27 16:18
1 reply
Ez ecs smurf monies
2017-11-27 17:04
Allow them to play with Dennis.
2017-11-27 16:24
RIP
2017-11-27 16:25
Rip
2017-11-27 16:27
wth astralis
2017-11-27 16:27
+ZyWoO then, ezpz :P
2017-11-27 16:29
How come electronic gets to play with NaVi
2017-11-27 16:30
1 reply
maybe because F3 are not in EPL. Na'Vi didn't make the finals anyway
2017-11-27 16:34
#187
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Brazil Ghostzera
:( no dev1
2017-11-27 16:37
#190
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Korea ropzGOD
Put mouz in final
2017-11-27 16:41
Well I guess rules are rules. idk if Astralis is in the position to make such a threat, they could ban them from the next season entirely
2017-11-27 16:43
6 replies
german.
2017-11-27 16:45
2 replies
What would the world be without rules!!??
2017-11-27 16:49
1 reply
oh gloin, oh you little german
2017-11-27 16:54
>threat Iunno how you play with 4 ppl lel.
2017-11-27 17:04
2 replies
HLTV changed the title. It said „Astralis threat to miss epl“ before
2017-11-27 18:47
1 reply
I was not known this details. Thank Mr HornyChicken.
2017-11-27 20:36
I really hope dennis will be allowed.
2017-11-27 16:47
3 replies
astralis fans wants dennis as standin respect !!!!!!! i agree dennisthemenace is a god #dennisthestandin
2017-11-27 16:49
2 replies
Of cause! He did awesome at Blast. Even if they have to play with zonic ill much rather see them attending than skipping the event.
2017-11-27 16:54
1 reply
+1 especially since its in denmark
2017-11-27 17:19
Those rules are just ridiculous
2017-11-27 16:48
wtf , why dont you let dennis at least , these rules are ridicolous. astralis is already handicapped.
2017-11-27 16:51
#202
fer | 
Switzerland m4in
If astralis would be allowed to use dennis, than, if i would be liquid, i would imidiatly step down. Its the absolut identic situation. Btw. i find it absolut stupid rule from WESA and ESL.
2017-11-27 16:52
2 replies
#320
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Denmark resolut
how is it identic.....
2017-11-28 08:13
1 reply
#337
fer | 
Switzerland m4in
Cause they both are way after the deadline. For other reasons, but the situation to the rules is the same. They both were to late. The reason doesnt really matter. Expect the rulebook would have a special clause , about sickness or smth, but it obviously have not.
2017-11-29 08:28
Why not just play with zonic? I mean, not that I like those rules, but if Liquid was forced to play with zews instead of steel, the same should apply to Astralis aswell to be fair.
2017-11-27 16:54
#209
shox | 
France kEONN
G2 replace Astralis in finals *dream*
2017-11-27 16:55
astralis = overrated shitters. device is weak in game and irl. astralis and vp need to do the earth a favor and just disband already.
2017-11-27 16:58
#213
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Sweden EraXYT
Fucking shit. I'm worried about Devices health. What if he actually dies?
2017-11-27 16:59
1 reply
Shit
2017-11-27 17:06
great consideration with your fans astralis ahahahah poor kids bought their tickets with their mamas credit card just to see them and they pull out
2017-11-27 17:01
2 replies
Lel
2017-11-27 17:08
Lul
2017-11-27 17:09
#FreeDennis2017
2017-11-27 17:03
DEVICEDRAMAQUEEN2017
2017-11-27 17:09
1 reply
Have a little sympathy for the guy!
2017-11-27 17:25
Just use zonik morons.
2017-11-27 17:13
5 replies
I think they have a legit point here, their player can not attend due to illness, something they can do nothing about. Why would they attend with a lineup they are not comfortable (bringing in some random, or zonic who does not want to play).
2017-11-27 17:24
4 replies
what legit point do they have beyond "we don't want to"? illness is clearly handled in the rules, rules that astralis agreed to follow when the season started. you're saying that, because they "don't feel comfortable" following the rules, that's reason enough to let them break the rules? ridiculous.
2017-11-27 18:09
3 replies
In what section of the rules?
2017-11-27 18:11
2 replies
it's all in the transfer rules esl-one.com/fileadmin/user_upload/pro-le.. astralis can only use the 3 substitutes they named at the start of the season. additionally, godsent isn't allowed to loan dennis to astralis at this time.
2017-11-27 18:36
1 reply
I dont see the rules mentioning anything about illness and a player being unable to play, so going back to the earlier comment you made, it is not clearly handled in the rules.
2017-11-27 20:47
#232
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Sweden ThorinEk
i wanna see dennis get another chance to prove himself as the real dane he is
2017-11-27 17:19
3 replies
#282
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Sweden wyv0
Lul
2017-11-27 19:10
2 replies
#291
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Sweden ThorinEk
DK dennis > SE dennis
2017-11-27 20:04
1 reply
+1 we'll gladly take him off your hands!
2017-11-27 21:22
They could play with dennis but they probably decided not to play at all, like to support device or smth
2017-11-27 17:21
2 replies
The very point here is that they refuse to play if they can not play with dennis. They want to attend with dennis. For once read the fucking article.
2017-11-27 17:25
1 reply
lol yes :D
2017-11-27 17:35
#241
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Finland 6hoo
that's retarded
2017-11-27 17:33
#244
 | 
Venezuela xoile
just die devi, do us a favor
2017-11-27 17:37
just ban device for cheating and we're all happy.
2017-11-27 17:40
Pick fox xd
2017-11-27 17:42
f a k
2017-11-27 17:46
#255
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Japan kitzune
fine, as long as steel can play also...
2017-11-27 17:52
zonix?
2017-11-27 17:53
Why can't Device play? He is such a pussy, the guy is not even hospitalized. Olof and Guardian played in condictions way worse than his, and if i am not mistaken, Fer played with only 10% of his hearing for at least 5 months. The thing is that he is at home hanging curtains with his GF, Ms. Emilia Teamruinner.
2017-11-27 17:59
8 replies
would you work when you're sick???
2017-11-27 18:02
6 replies
knowing that my friends need me? for sure I would (actually i've done it several times @ my previous real life job, calling sick days is not that easy or well accepted in the corporate world). And the thing is... There was no disclosure regarding what is wrong with him. They've runned several exams and no one made a single comment about his condictions, which leads us to understand that: 1) as he is not hospitalized we can assume that his illness is not that serious; 2) it could be a mental condiciton, which I really doubt, but it would make sense. Both scenarios end with Device being a pussy.
2017-11-27 18:09
5 replies
let's assume device still likes his job and wants to play. he goes to doctor and explains his situation another assumption. if the doctor say don't play you don't play. if you are ill and go to work sneezing all the time, you are an asshole.
2017-11-27 18:11
4 replies
And this is the thing, there was no disclosure regarding his condiction, which i find very odd since there is no reason to keep us in the dark (unless it is some mental issue). We are not talking about a mere cold or a flu here, he has been "sick" for a while now (more than 2 weeks). Judging by your words, I would bet that you've never worked on an office. When you have the flu it is ok to call a sick DAY... do this for two weeks and you'll get your ass fired as soon as you enter the front door. (Most comonly thing to happen is that when people feel sick they go to the office feeling bad, sneezing all the time, and wait until their bosses/hr department gives them the day off)
2017-11-27 19:39
3 replies
yeah sure man i know it's not good to be sick for prolonged time but everything could happen and why would he share his medical condition with the entire audience that's his business. it can be anything for all we know. it's most likely wrist problems or whatever since this is not a normal desktop job this is bit more intensive job.
2017-11-27 19:48
2 replies
yeah, you are right. In the end it may be some kind of physical injury due to repetitive strain. I guess that I was too harsh on him. But i still think that, as a public person he/astralis should at least disclose a little bit about the nature of his "ilness".
2017-11-27 19:53
1 reply
I get what youre saying, but Device has been sick for more than 2 weeks, since he had some trouble with his throat or stomach if im not mistaken, also the fact that he might want to hide facts about his ilness could be because he doesn't feel like he is ready or simply that the doctors have not been able to determine what is wrong with him.
2017-11-27 20:41
#283
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Brazil davidzor
I'm 100% with you on it.
2017-11-27 19:11
dennis needs to go there.. wtf rules
2017-11-27 18:02
#261
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Sweden ThorinEk
title changed from astralis threaten to astralis could skip
2017-11-27 18:01
-.- this is so retarded let them play with dennis ffs stupid cs laws LUL hope devve gets better soon <3 #emiliadestroyedastralis #freedevve #devvedidnothingwrong
2017-11-27 18:49
#285
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Brazil nt_prodka
I just want to see great games everywhere ffs Let them play with dennis for the sake of the show
2017-11-27 19:25
#289
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France Static2k
hi g2
2017-11-27 19:49
rip device and astralis in general if dennis isnt allowed to play. tbh device should consider retirement if his condition gets worse after his full recovery, otherwise he'll likely end up with problems even worse or even meeting his own end like that
2017-11-27 20:42
What is wrong with him?
2017-11-27 22:59
#310
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Finland coswell
Wasnt the whole idea to use Pimp for EPS... ?
2017-11-28 00:49
#313
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Finland f0pZ
HahHahah, so that means VP Premier gets a free tournament ticket? Lets fokin go VP
2017-11-28 01:51
1 reply
should give to G2 they want the spot so badly
2017-11-28 01:53
Since it's because Device is recovering and not because the team swaps players like pornstars swap cum, I think they should allow it.
2017-11-28 08:16
#326
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Palestine S1rEz10
They were better with Dennis anw they haven't made it to a finals in such dominate fashion for a long time and they get to practice more
2017-11-28 09:48
Piece of shit device. No character cunt.
2017-11-28 17:45
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