Astralis could skip EPL S6 Finals as device will miss event - Report

Sander
November 27th, 2017 15:20

Nicolai "device" Reedtz will miss another event, ESL Pro League Season 6 Finals, with Astralis ready to pull out of the tournament in case WESA disallows the team from using Dennis "dennis" Edman.

According to a source close to the team, Nicolai "device" Reedtz's slow recovery will prevent him from attending ESL Pro League Season 6 Finals with Astralis, who had just played BLAST Pro Series with Dennis "dennis" Edman as a stand-in this weekend.

Astralis are looking into using the Swede once more at the Pro League Finals in Odense. Their situation can be compared to Liquid, who will have to use Wilton "zews" Prado at the finals as Lucas "steel" Lopes wasn't allowed to play by WESA. That may become an issue for Astralis, as dennis also played the full online season of ESL Pro League with another team, GODSENT.

device's health issues continue

In case WESA denies Astralis their appeal regarding dennis, the team will pull out of ESL Pro League Season 6 Finals altogether, the source says.

When reached for a comment, RFRSH CEO Nikolaj Nyholm told HLTV.org that Astralis "are currently in talks with WESA and ESL about the situation".

Brazil Wilton 'zews' Prado
Wilton 'zews' Prado
Age:
31
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
0.83
Maps played:
121
KPR:
0.55
DPR:
0.68
APR:
0.13
Brazil Lucas 'steel' Lopes
Lucas 'steel' Lopes
Age:
25
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.98
Maps played:
800
KPR:
0.66
DPR:
0.66
APR:
0.13
Denmark Nicolai 'device' Reedtz
Nicolai 'device' Reedtz
Age:
23
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.17
Maps played:
1261
KPR:
0.79
DPR:
0.63
APR:
0.13
Sweden Dennis 'dennis' Edman
Dennis 'dennis' Edman
Age:
27
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.04
Maps played:
915
KPR:
0.72
DPR:
0.68
APR:
0.13
#1
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Russia MahoneDes 
fuck
2017-11-27 15:21
#5
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Turkey Mustafa- 
use dennis what
2017-11-27 15:21
#7
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Denmark goFaZe! 
GG
2017-11-27 15:21
#8
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Austria shaakeh 
NO OMFG
2017-11-27 15:21
rip
2017-11-27 15:22
Get better soon device <3
2017-11-27 17:48
#181
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Germany epoivre 
Er rasiert Hard genug bloß wer spielt jetzt die awp??
2017-11-27 16:27
Huansohn nazi
2017-11-27 17:09
#247
jks | 
Germany wh1teey 
dupreeh
2017-11-27 17:41
dupreeh ofc
2017-11-27 18:19
Dupreeh insane awper as we discovered
2017-11-27 18:47
#284
jks | 
United States SpazzyyCS 
fucking insane awper indeed
2017-11-27 19:23
#333
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Brazil Skrol 
+1
2017-11-28 17:24
Plasticfazefangay
2017-11-27 16:00
#36
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Russia MahoneDes 
read the article - dennis may not be allowed to play
2017-11-27 15:23
#84
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Argentina [Darkaren] 
Is it because he played on Godsent? And they can't get Pimp either?
2017-11-27 15:36
#87
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Russia MahoneDes 
Yes, that's why SK can't use boltz either. I guess they can use another stand-in but they don't want to? This is so strange.
2017-11-27 15:37
boltz is allowed to play ESL pro league, only ECS(they did not qualify anyway) and the Major
2017-11-27 16:18
#315
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Canada Number1F1fan 
Why can’t sk play with Boltz at the major they still have 4/5 players that attained that legends spot and they only need 3/5 I missing something
2017-11-28 03:45
He played with IMT and NA qualifier. Steel can’t play at the Major Qualifier cuz he was with IMT. But idk if that carriers over to the Major
2017-11-28 04:52
#328
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Denmark Antonio192 
it does
2017-11-28 11:55
There is also the thing with disco doplan, he played the EU minor open qualifier, and did qualify for the minor, but he didn't play at the actual minor with epsilon. While boltz and steel played the closed qualifier, which is still online portion of the qualifier, the difference that disco was allowed to play for fnatic in the major, but boltz and steel are not. So NA get screwed because they have a "closed qualifier" and EU haven't? how do make the ruling in this situation?
2017-11-28 13:53
#121
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Denmark MeToxi 
They probably can get pimp, they just want dennis
2017-11-27 15:55
#135
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North America Krulcifer 
I would want dennis too he played well and they almost won with him
2017-11-27 16:00
#140
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Denmark MeToxi 
Yeah. Its actually pretty amazing ;P I really hope that he'll be allowed to play. If not, it'll be a waste of my money.
2017-11-27 16:02
#144
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North America Krulcifer 
Im not a fan of Astralis but I really wanted them to win lol Lowkey disappointed but ill be rooting for them if they play with dennis
2017-11-27 16:05
+1
2017-11-27 16:08
If you actually read, they cannot use dennis because of WESA rules
2017-11-27 16:19
#253
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United States Ch1lled_Pyro 
That's why they are making an appeal to see if they can get an exception.
2017-11-27 17:50
i hope this appeal goes through :3
2017-11-29 19:09
Expected
2017-11-27 17:15
#325
device | 
Denmark frix00 
dennis is not bad for astralis look at blast pro series how good he was with them. dont wanna call him out
2017-11-28 08:57
#2
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Germany ceeazy 
gg
2017-11-27 15:21
#3
f0rest | 
Bosnia and Herzegovina Fackyyy 
Rip device
2017-11-27 15:21
#4
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Netherlands ImKuru 
Why
2017-11-27 15:21
#6
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Sweden 4Sweeeden 
LOL So who will replace? G2? (They are at 7th place in ESL Pro League EU)
2017-11-27 15:22
#54
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Slovakia SRNKO 
Nope .. Nobody will replace noobdy .. There are 2 opinions ( i think ) 1) zonic will play 2) all matches will be not played and their oponnents will gain 3 easy pts...
2017-11-27 15:27
are you stupid? they don't wanna waste time and play with zonic.... they will skip event and g2 will be invited
2017-11-27 15:32
#74
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Slovakia SRNKO 
Read the Wesa , esea and esl pro league rules spain kid, then call me a stupid :) g2 will be not invited if astralis skip this event .. Their matches will be caltulated as 0-16 loose :D
2017-11-27 15:34
Please forgive my ignorance, but didn't RNG got replaced by another team (iirc it was Liquid) because they had to pull off the event in S4?
2017-11-27 16:51
Wasnt this before wesa ?
2017-11-27 16:53
I'm not sure tbh
2017-11-27 18:35
Fuck wesa anyways
2017-11-27 18:48
#339
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Sweden MrIgnii 
Wesa 1.5 dollar prize pool lul Best esports tournament ever
2017-11-30 18:21
THIS IS WESG IDIOT W.E.S.G. WORLD ELECTRONIC SPORTS GAMES W.ES.A STANDS FOR WOTLD ESPORTS ASSOC.
2017-11-30 22:24
#303
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Mexico EZ_4_REZ 
They did at pro league season 5 as it was on the same weekend as the Asian Minor, but at pro league season 4 finals fnatic qualified but pulled out because dennis couldn't play and no one got invited to replace them
2017-11-27 21:31
#286
MUTiRiS | 
Portugal antCB 
"they don't wanna waste time and play with zonic...." hello there little newfag. In case you didn't knew, Zonic has played at the highest level in CS 1.6, I'm sure he could be very well fit to fill in if they need to and don't want to skip the event.
2017-11-27 19:35
#304
fnx | 
Sweden martla 
to have played at a high level in 1.6 doesnt really mean alot anymore
2017-11-27 21:51
#306
MUTiRiS | 
Portugal antCB 
yes, but you can't also look down on it and shrug it off like it means nothing ;)
2017-11-27 22:55
#336
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United States Sab0t_K1tty 
*Looking down on it* Zonic played at highest level of 1.6 *shrugs off like it means nothing bc it does*
2017-11-28 23:26
#71
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India Ad1_KaM 
Would be stupid if they decide not to go with zonic than not attending at all.
2017-11-27 15:33
#81
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Slovakia SRNKO 
Yup .. I juat prefer to play with zonic and try to make some points .. Maybe they will be third and play atles one quaterfinal ... I think thats still better than no play with no points.
2017-11-27 15:36
#185
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Brazil Neegger 
They don't care about the points Apparently they dont care about the money either They just wanna play well
2017-11-27 16:34
#199
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Slovakia SRNKO 
I guess that you're right , i think that same ... But they cant play season finals with stand in :( i think that if they will play wich i think that they will , they will play for fun
2017-11-27 16:51
#203
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Brazil Neegger 
I wouldnt mind if they just let them and liquid play with who they wanna play, but it sets a precedent and gives power to teams in the future who wanna do the same
2017-11-27 16:53
#215
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Slovakia SRNKO 
Yup i totally agree with you .. But rules are rules :D
2017-11-27 17:00
#224
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Brazil Neegger 
Without them we'd live with the animals
2017-11-27 17:07
Not to get any hopes up but I can imagine they're just saying they won't play at all to increase pressure on the organizers. Would be a huge shame if they wouldn't participate, they were the most fun team to watch last saturday.
2017-11-27 18:21
#273
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Brazil Neegger 
I hope them and liquid boycott the event if they're not allowed
2017-11-27 18:24
yeah I hope so as well, it's natural that one out of five players of a team will have health issues once in a while they shouldn't have any issues with using a stand-in
2017-11-28 00:48
I agree. They need to implement a rule allowing at least one roster spot change
2017-11-28 04:55
i remember fnatic missing epl s5 finals cuz of dennis child birth, that time nobody was invited instead and 3 of 5 left teams went through to playoffs
2017-11-27 15:48
#124
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Norway FLEX9INE 
EPL season 4*. Season 5 they had the conplete roster
2017-11-27 15:57
yy
2017-11-27 16:07
#152
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Norway FLEX9INE 
:)) its ok man
2017-11-27 16:08
It was because fnatic pulled out 2 days before the finals, and every other team cant replace them due to short notice. So, ESL just make it as 5 teams in 1 group :) hltv.org/news/19028/no-replacement-for-f..
2017-11-27 16:26
dennis is better anyways
2017-11-27 15:21
#58
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Hungary Shaperz 
Did you even read the article?
2017-11-27 15:30
#97
ropz | 
Estonia Eastonja 
dennis is better anyways
2017-11-27 15:42
Did you even read the article?
2017-11-27 17:50
Dennis is even read the better article
2017-11-28 00:20
The Article Did you read it even?
2017-11-28 00:52
yes
2017-11-27 15:42
LOL XDD
2017-11-27 15:21
Use pimp then
2017-11-27 15:22
Or zonic. If they pull out they are spoilt children and should be punished for it imo.
2017-11-27 18:08
pimp is an analyst at the event :/ lol
2017-11-28 00:49
Ez VP invite
2017-11-27 15:22
#29
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Russia v1p3rrr 
hahahahahahahahahah
2017-11-27 15:23
EZ VP 4Head
2017-11-27 15:24
lol only thing VP qualifed for is the relegation
2017-11-27 15:47
they didn't even qualify for that, they lost to Space Soldiers
2017-11-27 16:10
lmao
2017-11-27 16:47
HAHAHAHAHA
2017-11-27 16:55
+1
2017-11-27 17:17
+1
2017-11-28 09:55
#14
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Thailand UFRT1945 
how about pimp?
2017-11-27 15:22
maikelele awper ....
2017-11-27 15:22
#145
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Switzerland Alzameister 
maikelele is overrated
2017-11-27 16:06
#16
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Russia xtkjdtr01 
gg
2017-11-27 15:22
#17
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Portugal smokey8 
use zonic
2017-11-27 15:22
#19
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India MONKS 
Can't they use pimp?
2017-11-27 15:22
Nope, they either have to play with zonic or withdraw from the tournament.
2017-11-27 15:26
#129
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India MONKS 
Thanks
2017-11-27 15:58
#149
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Switzerland Alzameister 
i think they can use him since he didnt play with a pro league team this season. But obviously astralis doesnt want to play with pimp
2017-11-27 16:07
devve :O T_T
2017-11-27 15:22
Omg :(
2017-11-27 15:22
#22
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Russia v1p3rrr 
god zonic's time?
2017-11-27 15:22
#23
Happy | 
Vietnam Hadaway 
pimp is not in the esl pro league roster as stand in ?
2017-11-27 15:22
He is surprisingly talented. Would be an excellent support player. Idk how he doesn’t have a team
2017-11-28 04:58
#319
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United States tediousmcgee 
He didn't want to play on a team after leaving Liquid
2017-11-28 05:56
nooooooo
2017-11-27 15:22
get well devve
2017-11-27 15:22
#27
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Denmark BATISTUTA9 
If Astralis pulls out of that event, it will be a huge blow for ESL. I was present in the BLAST Arena this weekend, and Astralis was atleast 90% of the crowd
2017-11-27 15:22
can't they just play with zonic?
2017-11-27 15:24
#61
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Switzerland wHIt3wHISk3Y 
They don't want to, and therefore they threaten ESL to withdraw, knowing that it will be such a blow for ESL to not have Astralis there. I think it's a good and smart move from them, fuck TO and their stupid roster lock rules
2017-11-27 15:31
#67
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Switzerland wHIt3wHISk3Y 
At the same time, if ESL accepts Astralis conditions then they MUST let also Liquid play for steel, otherwise they would be so much criticized
2017-11-27 15:32
#80
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India Ad1_KaM 
Yeah, else that'll have a backlash of its own. I think astralis best go with zonic than fuck up anything in the scene!
2017-11-27 15:35
#83
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Switzerland wHIt3wHISk3Y 
Hope they man up and don't
2017-11-27 15:36
ESL loves scandals bro, if they let Astralis play with dennis and say a "no" to Liquid i won't be surpised. Roster lock is not a bad thing imo but if there's a problem about someone's health, you should help them. dennis was a player of GODSENT and could be unavailable but Astralis can take Pimp.
2017-11-27 15:54
#245
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Japan anikatoru 
+1
2017-11-27 17:39
#110
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Sweden Div-\ 
+1
2017-11-27 15:48
#243
ScreaM | 
Germany SILVA3 
Why is that stupid? It's similar in football. A player, who played ni CL this season can't play for another team. So why is it stupid in this case? TL can use zews, he is the coach and was on the team the whole season. Astralis also has a coach, who could play - but they don't want to and ESL should follow their own rules.
2017-11-27 17:35
#44
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Australia USTlLO 
+1 very good statement
2017-11-27 15:24
They can still cheer for North heh.
2017-11-27 15:27
#70
device | 
Denmark AwzuuM 
Yes but north sucks and they don't have the fan base, sure their might be a little cheer here and there, but it would still be a huge blow for esl as he said
2017-11-27 15:33
the fanbase of Astralis is much bigger so they outclass North in terms of popularity (likely due to k0nfig's arrogance and cockiness)
2017-11-27 20:39
#66
Faroe Islands xuan 
it's not like astralis has no other option. they played good with dennis and it's obvious to use him again, but there are rules.... they either allow steel/boltz to play for liquid and sk respectively as well or they deny just all 3. i don't see an other fair solution. also with a prize pool of 750k i don't see why trying with zonic to reach maybe top 5-8 for a lot of cash is no option here. or playing for the fans in general. dumb move to say take it or leave it and i guess it fires back soon enough
2017-11-27 15:32
The other situations are not like this one. There is a medical issue preventing their 5th from playing not a change of roster like the other 2 teas in your comment
2017-11-27 15:43
it's not about 1 player missing in whatever team, it's 1 player filling in who played the whole season 6 for an other team. that's the point
2017-11-27 15:45
I disagree. This is a different circumstance. While I think they will not be allowed to use Dennis and it is stupid not to compete with someone, there has to be some emergency situations that allow for Dennis to play. I think they play no matter what and should imo
2017-11-27 15:49
they should just allow all 3 players in case they are not under contract with an other org involved in pro league 6. also they have the chance to pick up a player out of millions, just not one that played a whole season in this current league. so it's not like they have no option. it's a low attempt to blackmail esl as their fanbase could boycott the tournament. while it's obvious why they want dennis, the rules are there for something
2017-11-27 15:52
#155
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Switzerland Alzameister 
SK/Liquid were roster moves, while the case of Astralis is a medical issue. Astralis should be allowed to use a stand in for the tournament since its a medical issue and not just a roster change.
2017-11-27 16:10
sk is able to use a standin, you misunderstand this news. they also used pimp for their last league matches. there is only a conflict because dennis played the season for a different team, astralis is free to use one out of million csgo players tho including pimp or even their coach
2017-11-27 16:14
#159
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Hungary Rollie 
There aren't many good options
2017-11-27 16:14
well last year 11-12th got 33k prize money, so after playing a whole season i would rather play 4on5 / with coach than withdraw
2017-11-27 16:15
#164
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Hungary Rollie 
33k is not that much for them, I think they would like to bash ESL more than 33k because this rule is stupid
2017-11-27 16:17
free money is free money + they could play in front of their fans. bitch move to pressure esl like that when the rules are clear
2017-11-27 16:20
Hello, I thought astralis Were going to use pimp in EPL finals? And also, do you know how is boltz allowed to play by SK? Thank you
2017-11-27 15:33
I believe the rule states a player cannot play for the new team if they played the entire season with another team already. Boltz did not play the entire season where steel did and so did Dennis
2017-11-27 17:42
I see. Thank you my friend
2017-11-27 18:18
So use Pimp instead? Why pull out of the entire tournament just because you can't have your first pick of Standin
2017-11-27 15:22
#75
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Switzerland wHIt3wHISk3Y 
Because rules should be there for the good sake of players, and not the other way around. Good timing from Astrlias to show who holds the power, hope they don't act like pussies and change mind if ESL actually tells them they have to withdraw if not playing with zonic
2017-11-27 15:35
bullsit, the rules exist for the sake of competitive integrity, nothing else. the rules don't care about the players as long as everyone is treated equally. make no mistake, this is an org using their popularity to blackmail a tournament organiser into breaking their own rules. if esl wants to maintain any credibility, they HAVE TO tell astralis to play with zonic.
2017-11-27 17:42
#324
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World lalt 
you play by rules, or you dont play. rip astralis
2017-11-28 08:41
#322
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Denmark SenoriTaB 
Also pimp is locked on Heroics roster this season due to heroic expecting to use him as a standin before they got esetag from Tricked
2017-11-28 08:24
#323
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Denmark SenoriTaB 
IIRC
2017-11-28 08:24
#30
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Norway RainTop1HLTV 
just let dev1ce use teamviewer to play from home ezpz
2017-11-27 15:23
Lmao fuck this guy figured it out xD +1
2017-11-27 16:06
#330
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Norway RainTop1HLTV 
1000IQ xD
2017-11-28 12:33
Ez mvp 100+ping
2017-11-27 16:57
#329
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Norway RainTop1HLTV 
They both in denmark ;) ez 1 ping
2017-11-28 12:33
Hospital wifi
2017-11-28 12:38
g2 ?
2017-11-27 15:23
WESA is fucking them in a really sad situation with one of their players, quite shitty tbh
2017-11-27 15:23
Why not use Zonic or Pimp?
2017-11-27 15:23
probably after their suprisingly good blastpro lan they want to use the good mood/chemistry with dennis and want to put pressure on esl now
2017-11-27 16:18
Yeah, i think Astralis will not skip in the end, but are just using this to pressure TO's and Valve to change the stupid roster lock rules just like everyone in the community is doing rn (players, analysts etc).
2017-11-27 17:30
What is he recovering from, exactly?
2017-11-27 15:23
Can anyone else than premature kids answer this?
2017-11-27 15:25
He has some problems in his stomach, mate. I didn't read the article, but I think you can read about it here cybbet.com/news/3913-Nikolay-device-Ried..
2017-11-27 15:31
Aight, thanks!
2017-11-27 15:32
#62
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Hungary Shaperz 
I would like to know that too
2017-11-27 15:32
Hiatus hernia something
2017-11-27 15:34
gastro-oesophageal reflux disease
2017-11-27 15:32
I don't think they made public what is his illness about
2017-11-27 15:35
#335
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Denmark Enggaard 
Its Hiatus Hernie
2017-11-28 21:51
#138
Dosia | 
Hungary Joco413 
Cancer.
2017-11-27 16:01
this isnt the time for cancer jokes dimwit
2017-11-27 20:39
#38
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Finland Emvi 
Thank you WESA! Looking after the players /s
2017-11-27 15:23
#39
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Denmark fm100 
What did i fucking say
2017-11-27 15:23
#40
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Norway Phancy11 
It must be some exceptions! It's not like liquid situation when they swap players just to perform better, there is health issue. Astralis have to get chance to play with stand in.
2017-11-27 15:24
there are clear rules in place in case of illness. astralis CAN play with a stand-in, just not someone who's already played the season on another team (dennis played on godsent). and they specifically want dennis to perform better than with another stand-in, so in that regard it's not really all that different from liquid.
2017-11-27 17:59
#41
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Brazil davidzor 
What a shit outcome. What is happening with Device man?
2017-11-27 15:24
Missed 3 premier tourneys But still mvp of all of them
2017-11-27 16:58
Terrible stomach disease which requires serious surgery
2017-11-27 18:04
How does no European know the word hernia? Why are you constantly saying stomach disease?
2017-11-27 20:43
fak those latin words
2017-11-27 20:46
:( going to cry now
2017-11-27 15:25
#48
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Luxembourg Feudalism 
What about boltz in SK?
2017-11-27 15:25
#59
Faroe Islands xuan 
per se not allowed
2017-11-27 15:30
#69
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Brazil davidzor 
It seems he will be allowed to play
2017-11-27 15:33
#88
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Brazil maximoff66 
He didn't played the Full Seasons for immortals
2017-11-27 15:38
#94
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Luxembourg Feudalism 
oh, thank you for the clarification. I believe this rule is too strict, it should be relaxed to allow for at least one change due to exceptional conditions.
2017-11-27 15:41
#305
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Brazil maximoff66 
Agreed
2017-11-27 22:36
#49
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Albania artanmeniqi 
FAK
2017-11-27 15:25
#51
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Sweden TDK Em1L 
Just use pimp/dennis/zonic/ETC instead.
2017-11-27 15:26
#85
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Denmark DanishDelight 
dennis instead of dennis?
2017-11-27 15:37
#100
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Sweden TDK Em1L 
read only the title, and LUL why threaten to leave unless you can use dennis, just use some danish dood that didnt play eksdeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee or zonic.
2017-11-27 15:44
#55
KRIMZ | 
Denmark slacking 
just ake pimp or any other player? lol fuck G2
2017-11-27 15:27
#56
Faroe Islands xuan 
it would be a complete joke if they allowed dennis here and deny steel. on the other hand why would u play a whole season just to drop out last second? why not play with zonic or even someone random? 750k prize pool and they have still a good chance to make top8 maybe even top5. if they used it as a pressure it will be a complete fail i guess. too bad
2017-11-27 15:29
yeah, it doesn't make any sense.
2017-11-27 15:32
#78
device | 
Denmark AwzuuM 
I think it's to put pressure on ESL, because they know the fan base will be all Astralis, and if they don't come, then the event would be pure trash
2017-11-27 15:35
#92
Faroe Islands xuan 
yea i think so too, but as i said above i assume it will fire back sooner than they think everyone knows esl does everything to get vp back to pro league with their constant rule changes etc to get back their fanbase, but after that steel decision (and open boltz decision) it's unprofessional to decide anything else. looking at season 5 finals prize distribution hltv.org/events/2557/esl-pro-league-seas.. even 12th place gets 33k so what a fucking dumb move to pull out imo. not that i don't understand why they want to play with dennis or anything, but they should play alone for the fans and in worst case with zonic. that's his job
2017-11-27 15:39
#57
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Israel raaVz 
invite VP or NAVI
2017-11-27 15:30
we invited vp because of a popular fan vote f
2017-11-27 16:59
Allow both dennis and steel pls
2017-11-27 15:35
#79
JORDAN | 
Jordan LBJ 
Just kick BOT device and pick dennis
2017-11-27 15:35
i agree +1 good point dennis is a god
2017-11-27 15:40
#82
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Other VladimirLucas 
DENNIS PLZ <3
2017-11-27 15:36
rekt by wesa lulululuululul
2017-11-27 15:37
and pimp?
2017-11-27 15:38
they could use zonic no?
2017-11-27 15:39
why they skip? they can play with stand-in right?
2017-11-27 15:41
they can, there's only a conflict because dennis played the current season for godsent they can also use zonic without a problem. not that it's too great, but last season 33k prize for 11-12th soo....
2017-11-27 15:59
#96
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Poland Marcines 
device should retire
2017-11-27 15:42
Even if devve retires he will be the mvp of every tourney ast attends
2017-11-27 17:00
if his condition gets even worse after his recovery then he should, otherwise he'll just meet his own end like that
2017-11-27 20:40
uurgh seems like a low attempt to bully ESL into bending their rules. I hope it backfires
2017-11-27 15:44
#102
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Denmark oskarsports 
b.. b.. b... but.. dennis :,,(
2017-11-27 15:44
well it is only fair that dennis can't play because Liquid can't have steel...
2017-11-27 15:45
2017-11-27 15:46
Whats happening to device? Is he ok?
2017-11-27 15:46
Umm if Liquid can use Zews then they can use Zonic right? unless I'm missing something obvious.
2017-11-27 15:47
yeah zews -> decent zonic -> old trash
2017-11-27 15:51
#301
ARTeMis | 
Australia zebO 
Stopped reading at "zews -> decent"
2017-11-27 21:09
#112
NiKo | 
France Sheld 
GO G2
2017-11-27 15:49
#117
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Norway LokeNnNnN 
And the wildcard? Virtus motherfucking Pro
2017-11-27 15:52
too lazy to read their shitty rules, but pretty sure it'd be g2
2017-11-27 15:58
#142
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Norway LokeNnNnN 
yeah I was just joking obviously it should go to whatever team finished just below HR, which is G2 in this case (unless they aren't able to show up for whatever reason)
2017-11-27 16:03
i won't be suprised to see vp tho, esl tried so hard :D - more teams - bo3 double elimination relegation - mdl league all changes by esl over the past 2/3 seasons to get vp back in pro league
2017-11-27 16:13
#158
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Norway LokeNnNnN 
lol yeah they aren't even trying to hide it :D
2017-11-27 16:14
And vp says NO ESEA MAIN IS BEST LEAGUE FAK U ESL
2017-11-27 17:02
i hope they allow dennis
2017-11-27 15:53
#120
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Bangladesh thug_doctor 
Why all the outcry. rules are rules.
2017-11-27 15:55
#123
SpawN | 
Bulgaria Sickzz_ 
F*CK YOU WESA
2017-11-27 15:57
These rules need to be updated to real world situations :(
2017-11-27 15:58
One of these scenarios will happen : - ESL refuse and Astralis skip - ESL refuse and Astralis use Zonic - ESL change rules and allow both Dennis and Steel to play
2017-11-27 15:58
And Boltz i guess
2017-11-27 16:38
do you actually think steel can get a visa in time ?
2017-11-27 17:32
Oh damn I completely forgot the tournament isn't in NA idk why I thought it was well that changes things.
2017-11-27 17:53
WESA is a monopolistic piece of shit. It is really weird that despite knowing these terms, a lot of teams have joined it.
2017-11-27 15:58
wesa fucks esports
2017-11-27 17:02
#131
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Luxembourg alex24 
dennis > > device anyways
2017-11-27 15:59
use swag then
2017-11-27 15:59
HOLY SHIT astralis skips - VP invited - VP win EPL lan - get invited to EPL online
2017-11-27 16:00
2017-11-27 16:00
#143
Dosia | 
Hungary Joco413 
Rules are restrictive for a good reason so you can't just buy out the other team mid season.
2017-11-27 16:03
Who would replace them
2017-11-27 16:01
BRING FOX AS STAND IN , EZ PZ
2017-11-27 16:02
here comes VP!
2017-11-27 16:06
Emilia Hult can be stand-in, ez Asstralis
2017-11-27 16:07
cmon esl do something, yes dennis played for godsent so what?
2017-11-27 16:09
rules are rules. they can use another stand-in, why the fuck should ESL bend the rules just so Astralis can have dennis when there are hundreds of other players to choose from
2017-11-27 16:12
boltz, steel, dennis seriously we are talking about 3 teams here
2017-11-27 16:14
Boltz is gonna play for SK.. Boltz played 21 matches.. Steel and dennis played more the 25 matches.. The limit is 25..
2017-11-27 16:17
wow now that's really unfair if u play for 24 matches it's okey, if u play 26 matches you can't
2017-11-27 16:20
how is that unfair lmao, they've got to set the limit somewhere. teams knew the rules in advance, this shouldn't come as a suprise for them
2017-11-27 16:22
so what? just use another stand-in, its one event. they shouldn't get special treatment when other teams follow the rules
2017-11-27 16:19
dude even constitutions can change, why the fuck esl rules can't change?
2017-11-27 16:22
ofc the rules can change, they can change for the next season. not fair to the other teams if they can just change the rules whenever they want to please the large orgs however, right before the finals
2017-11-27 16:25
for me it couldn't be problem. liquid and astralis aggrieved rn 2 teams of 10 teams(1/5) i mean yes liquid knew rules but astralis? device is sick now this is not typical roster change so they can change rules from now, but also i got your point: changing rules immediately for just threat from one team, could be awkward/pussy move
2017-11-27 16:32
Not only awkward.. Astralis have other options they’re just trying to force esl to change the rules so they can play with their 1st choice. It’s true that device is sick and u can’t know it in before but Astralis Are just cocky because they don’t get what they want...
2017-11-27 18:45
yes you are right but i'm with them cuz i want to see dennis in astralis hudi again
2017-11-27 18:46
What a shame two of the better teams will be playing with stand ins, or in the case of Astralis, not at all Hopefully they can be replaced by G2, the 7th place team in EU
2017-11-27 16:18
who need that event? we rich af ~Astralis
2017-11-27 16:18
Ez ecs smurf monies
2017-11-27 17:04
Allow them to play with Dennis.
2017-11-27 16:24
RIP
2017-11-27 16:25
Rip
2017-11-27 16:27
#180
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Sweden lagcats 
wth astralis
2017-11-27 16:27
#182
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Japan Sarada 
+ZyWoO then, ezpz :P
2017-11-27 16:29
#183
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North America Fatson2k 
How come electronic gets to play with NaVi
2017-11-27 16:30
maybe because F3 are not in EPL. Na'Vi didn't make the finals anyway
2017-11-27 16:34
#187
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Brazil Ghostzera 
:( no dev1
2017-11-27 16:37
#190
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North America ropzGOD 
Put mouz in final
2017-11-27 16:41
#191
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Germany Gloin 
Well I guess rules are rules. idk if Astralis is in the position to make such a threat, they could ban them from the next season entirely
2017-11-27 16:43
german.
2017-11-27 16:45
#197
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Germany Gloin 
What would the world be without rules!!??
2017-11-27 16:49
oh gloin, oh you little german
2017-11-27 16:54
>threat Iunno how you play with 4 ppl lel.
2017-11-27 17:04
HLTV changed the title. It said „Astralis threat to miss epl“ before
2017-11-27 18:47
I was not known this details. Thank Mr HornyChicken.
2017-11-27 20:36
#194
cadiaN | 
Denmark megz 
I really hope dennis will be allowed.
2017-11-27 16:47
astralis fans wants dennis as standin respect !!!!!!! i agree dennisthemenace is a god #dennisthestandin
2017-11-27 16:49
#205
cadiaN | 
Denmark megz 
Of cause! He did awesome at Blast. Even if they have to play with zonic ill much rather see them attending than skipping the event.
2017-11-27 16:54
+1 especially since its in denmark
2017-11-27 17:19
Those rules are just ridiculous
2017-11-27 16:48
wtf , why dont you let dennis at least , these rules are ridicolous. astralis is already handicapped.
2017-11-27 16:51
#202
fer | 
Switzerland m4in 
If astralis would be allowed to use dennis, than, if i would be liquid, i would imidiatly step down. Its the absolut identic situation. Btw. i find it absolut stupid rule from WESA and ESL.
2017-11-27 16:52
#320
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Indonesia linekerrr 
how is it identic.....
2017-11-28 08:13
#337
fer | 
Switzerland m4in 
Cause they both are way after the deadline. For other reasons, but the situation to the rules is the same. They both were to late. The reason doesnt really matter. Expect the rulebook would have a special clause , about sickness or smth, but it obviously have not.
2017-11-29 08:28
Why not just play with zonic? I mean, not that I like those rules, but if Liquid was forced to play with zews instead of steel, the same should apply to Astralis aswell to be fair.
2017-11-27 16:54
#209
shox | 
France kEONN 
G2 replace Astralis in finals *dream*
2017-11-27 16:55
astralis = overrated shitters. device is weak in game and irl. astralis and vp need to do the earth a favor and just disband already.
2017-11-27 16:58
#213
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Korea EraXYT 
Fucking shit. I'm worried about Devices health. What if he actually dies?
2017-11-27 16:59
Shit
2017-11-27 17:06
Hell respawn next round with 1400$
2017-11-27 18:07
great consideration with your fans astralis ahahahah poor kids bought their tickets with their mamas credit card just to see them and they pull out
2017-11-27 17:01
Lel
2017-11-27 17:08
Lul
2017-11-27 17:09
#FreeDennis2017
2017-11-27 17:03
DEVICEDRAMAQUEEN2017
2017-11-27 17:09
#237
cadiaN | 
Denmark megz 
Have a little sympathy for the guy!
2017-11-27 17:25
Just use zonik morons.
2017-11-27 17:13
I think they have a legit point here, their player can not attend due to illness, something they can do nothing about. Why would they attend with a lineup they are not comfortable (bringing in some random, or zonic who does not want to play).
2017-11-27 17:24
what legit point do they have beyond "we don't want to"? illness is clearly handled in the rules, rules that astralis agreed to follow when the season started. you're saying that, because they "don't feel comfortable" following the rules, that's reason enough to let them break the rules? ridiculous.
2017-11-27 18:09
In what section of the rules?
2017-11-27 18:11
it's all in the transfer rules esl-one.com/fileadmin/user_upload/pro-le.. astralis can only use the 3 substitutes they named at the start of the season. additionally, godsent isn't allowed to loan dennis to astralis at this time.
2017-11-27 18:36
#300
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Korea AlexeS5386 
I dont see the rules mentioning anything about illness and a player being unable to play, so going back to the earlier comment you made, it is not clearly handled in the rules.
2017-11-27 20:47
#232
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Sweden ThorinEk 
i wanna see dennis get another chance to prove himself as the real dane he is
2017-11-27 17:19
#282
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Sweden wyv0 
Lul
2017-11-27 19:10
#291
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Sweden ThorinEk 
DK dennis > SE dennis
2017-11-27 20:04
+1 we'll gladly take him off your hands!
2017-11-27 21:22
They could play with dennis but they probably decided not to play at all, like to support device or smth
2017-11-27 17:21
The very point here is that they refuse to play if they can not play with dennis. They want to attend with dennis. For once read the fucking article.
2017-11-27 17:25
lol yes :D
2017-11-27 17:35
#241
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Finland 6hoo 
that's retarded
2017-11-27 17:33
#244
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Venezuela xoile 
just die devi, do us a favor
2017-11-27 17:37
#246
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Switzerland UrsUeli 
just ban device for cheating and we're all happy.
2017-11-27 17:40
#250
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Portugal Jkzzz 
Pick fox xd
2017-11-27 17:42
f a k
2017-11-27 17:46
#255
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Japan kitzune 
fine, as long as steel can play also...
2017-11-27 17:52
zonix?
2017-11-27 17:53
Why can't Device play? He is such a pussy, the guy is not even hospitalized. Olof and Guardian played in condictions way worse than his, and if i am not mistaken, Fer played with only 10% of his hearing for at least 5 months. The thing is that he is at home hanging curtains with his GF, Ms. Emilia Teamruinner.
2017-11-27 17:59
would you work when you're sick???
2017-11-27 18:02
knowing that my friends need me? for sure I would (actually i've done it several times @ my previous real life job, calling sick days is not that easy or well accepted in the corporate world). And the thing is... There was no disclosure regarding what is wrong with him. They've runned several exams and no one made a single comment about his condictions, which leads us to understand that: 1) as he is not hospitalized we can assume that his illness is not that serious; 2) it could be a mental condiciton, which I really doubt, but it would make sense. Both scenarios end with Device being a pussy.
2017-11-27 18:09
let's assume device still likes his job and wants to play. he goes to doctor and explains his situation another assumption. if the doctor say don't play you don't play. if you are ill and go to work sneezing all the time, you are an asshole.
2017-11-27 18:11
And this is the thing, there was no disclosure regarding his condiction, which i find very odd since there is no reason to keep us in the dark (unless it is some mental issue). We are not talking about a mere cold or a flu here, he has been "sick" for a while now (more than 2 weeks). Judging by your words, I would bet that you've never worked on an office. When you have the flu it is ok to call a sick DAY... do this for two weeks and you'll get your ass fired as soon as you enter the front door. (Most comonly thing to happen is that when people feel sick they go to the office feeling bad, sneezing all the time, and wait until their bosses/hr department gives them the day off)
2017-11-27 19:39
yeah sure man i know it's not good to be sick for prolonged time but everything could happen and why would he share his medical condition with the entire audience that's his business. it can be anything for all we know. it's most likely wrist problems or whatever since this is not a normal desktop job this is bit more intensive job.
2017-11-27 19:48
yeah, you are right. In the end it may be some kind of physical injury due to repetitive strain. I guess that I was too harsh on him. But i still think that, as a public person he/astralis should at least disclose a little bit about the nature of his "ilness".
2017-11-27 19:53
#296
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Korea AlexeS5386 
I get what youre saying, but Device has been sick for more than 2 weeks, since he had some trouble with his throat or stomach if im not mistaken, also the fact that he might want to hide facts about his ilness could be because he doesn't feel like he is ready or simply that the doctors have not been able to determine what is wrong with him.
2017-11-27 20:41
#283
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Brazil davidzor 
I'm 100% with you on it.
2017-11-27 19:11
dennis needs to go there.. wtf rules
2017-11-27 18:02
#261
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Sweden ThorinEk 
title changed from astralis threaten to astralis could skip
2017-11-27 18:01
-.- this is so retarded let them play with dennis ffs stupid cs laws LUL hope devve gets better soon <3 #emiliadestroyedastralis #freedevve #devvedidnothingwrong
2017-11-27 18:49
I just want to see great games everywhere ffs Let them play with dennis for the sake of the show
2017-11-27 19:25
#289
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France Static2k 
hi g2
2017-11-27 19:49
rip device and astralis in general if dennis isnt allowed to play. tbh device should consider retirement if his condition gets worse after his full recovery, otherwise he'll likely end up with problems even worse or even meeting his own end like that
2017-11-27 20:42
What is wrong with him?
2017-11-27 22:59
Wasnt the whole idea to use Pimp for EPS... ?
2017-11-28 00:49
HahHahah, so that means VP Premier gets a free tournament ticket? Lets fokin go VP
2017-11-28 01:51
#314
Hong Kong 689 
should give to G2 they want the spot so badly
2017-11-28 01:53
Since it's because Device is recovering and not because the team swaps players like pornstars swap cum, I think they should allow it.
2017-11-28 08:16
#326
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Palestine S1rEz10 
They were better with Dennis anw they haven't made it to a finals in such dominate fashion for a long time and they get to practice more
2017-11-28 09:48
Piece of shit device. No character cunt.
2017-11-28 17:45
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