Top 20 players of 2017: Snax (20)

After three consecutive top-five finishes in our yearly player rankings, Janusz "Snax" Pogorzelski just barely made the top 20 list in 2017, with his early-year highs earning him the #20 spot.

Even though he was playing in the upper echelons of the Polish scene since 2010 and even represented his national team in 2011 and 2012, Janusz "Snax" Pogorzelski had to wait for CS:GO to kick off to make a real mark on the scene. As 2013 was coming to an end and the legendary Polish side featuring Filip "NEO" Kubski and Wiktor "TaZ" Wojtas wasn't able to live up to their old heights with the lineup they had brought over from CS 1.6, Snax, 20 years old at the time, got the opportunity to join UniversalSoldiers.

Snax had a good individual showing at DreamHack Winter 2013, where he was by far the best player for the Poles, finishing the event with a 1.22 rating, but due to his team going out in the group stage, his performance didn't get that much attention. It was only at the first Major of 2014 that Snax really made a name for himself.

The young Pole was only the third-best rated Virtus.pro player in their victory at EMS One Katowice, but some of his memorable plays, such as the sneaky triple against NiP, would make him a favorite of CS fans from all over the world. As the year went on, Snax became the main star of Virtus.pro, with his clutching prowess and great play in big matches and at the Majors earning him a #4 spot in our top 20 rankings in 2014.

Snax at ESL One Cologne 2015, a year in which he excelled at the Majors

Virtus.pro were not able to pick up another Major win in 2015, but Snax did continue putting up the numbers at the biggest events of the year. He started with a 1.16 rating at ESL One Katowice (3rd-4th place finish), continued with a 1.11 at ESL One Cologne (3rd-4th) and finished it off with a 1.29 at DreamHack Open Cluj-Napoca (5th-8th). Alongside that, he was the MVP in three out of five of Virtus.pro's tournament wins, topping the charts at the ESEA S18 Global Finals, the CEVO Professional S7 Finals, and the ESL ESEA Dubai Invitational. What also came into play in earning him his second consecutive #4 spot in the yearly rankings was his impact in terms of opening kills, which was the basis for a lot of Virtus.pro's success.

Even though he was known to pick up the gun from time to time before, in 2016 Snax really embraced the AWP and became the main sniper for Virtus.pro. That didn't stop him from finishing as a top-five player once again, with his big event play maintaining a high level, as well as his exceptional clutching—with 57 1vXs won, Snax was the best clutcher of the year. Another thing that Snax added to his game in 2016 was a high level of consistency, as he had an above 0.85 rating in 84% of the maps he played.

Virtus.pro started the year by being one of the few top teams to attend WESG 2016, which by default made them the favorite for the $1,500,000 event. It must be said that the lack of premier opposition made it easier for Snax to look good in the tournament, but a 1.27 rating over 18 maps, with only one game being a below-average rated one, can't be taken lightly. Interestingly, Snax's worst map of the event came in the semi-final against Kinguin, who featured Grzegorz "SZPERO" Dziamałek and Michał "MICHU" Müller—two of his former teammates who at the end of 2016 he had tipped to be potential up-and-coming players.

After an EVP at WESG, Snax came into the first Major of the year with guns blazing. The Pole was the best rated player in all three of Virtus.pro's tight group stage wins, averaging a 1.48 rating over them despite each of OpTic, G2 and Gambit reaching double digits. Once again, Snax had only one below-average rated map throughout the event, Cache against North, but went 27-10 against the Danes on the map before that, Overpass.

Had the Polish side been able to close out Train against Astralis in the grand final, Snax would've been the obvious choice for the MVP of the tournament as he topped the charts for his team in six relevant categories: Rating (1.24), ADR (83.7), KPR (0.83), DPR (0.59), Impact (1.38) and KAST (74.1%). However, an EVP and a second-place finish were what he had to settle for in the end.

Snax was on point at the ELEAGUE Atlanta Major, his best tournament of the year

Following the Major, Virtus.pro headed into the third tournament of the year, DreamHack Masters Las Vegas. Snax was showing up from the start, putting up good numbers in his team's group stage matches against Misfits, Gambit and especially the group decider against fnatic. After helping his team to reach the playoffs, Snax stood out in their match against mousesports, with that win setting up a semi-final rematch with Astralis.

Even though he wasn't the main instigator, Snax had a solid game in Virtus.pro's dominant revenge over Astralis. The Pole wasn't able to keep up on that level in the grand final against SK, but Snax's inspired performance on Train allowed his team to steal away the Brazilians’ map pick and push the series to the decider, Mirage, where Virtus.pro were able to close it out and pick up their first title of the year.

Snax wasn't in hyper-carry mode throughout the whole event, but still finished DreamHack Masters Las Vegas with a 1.24 rating, 10% above the average of his team, and scored a high round-to-round consistency with 75.9% KAST while maintaining a high Impact rating of 1.23. That earned him an MVP award to go along with the two EVPs from the earlier tournaments.

"We had a great start to the year, I think we were ready because we managed to get out of the slump that we had. I didn’t think about [if this would be Virtus.pro's year then]. I’m always trying to focus on the tournaments in the same way and I think all the guys from my team have the same point of view. Just focus on the next event and be ready for it, doesn't matter if it is going to be a good or bad period of time."

"Individually, I felt OK, because I’m doing my job and the team is working well. In my opinion, it was the best setup for the team, I think that everyone felt good and fit well in our strategy and overall game."

Snax wasn't just OK, though: at this point, he had averaged a 1.26 rating over three events, a medium sized one, a big one, and a Major, making him the best player in the world over the first two months. It seemed like he was destined for another great year and his fourth consecutive top-five finish, but things were, however, soon to change.

"The dark period started one day after Vegas, not before and not after. We didn’t talk like we should inside the team, we had some problems and the way it went was horrible, but there is much more to it... Anyway, it was kind of a good lesson for all of us."

IEM Katowice 2017 followed, a special tournament for the Poles, but Snax started it abysmally. In the first two games of the round-robin group stage, Snax was dead weight for his team, finishing matches against North and Natus Vincere with a cumulative -20 K-D difference.

Snax picked it up individually in the remaining games of the tournament, helping his team defeat Cloud9 and SK, but even with him being the best-rated player in the Nuke game against Heroic, Virtus.pro weren't able to take the win against the Danes and advance to the playoffs. Snax's absence in the early games proved costly, and in the end, left the Poles without a chance to play in front of their home crowd.

The failure at StarSeries prompted a change in leadership for Virtus.pro

With a 0.98 rating, Snax was Virtus.pro's worst player in Katowice, but if that failure was down to him, the next tournament group stage exit, at SL i-League StarSeries S3, was surely a team effort. After a comfortable win over MVP Project, Virtus.pro suffered three devastating losses—16-2 to SK, 16-5 to NiP and 16-2 to fnatic—that eliminated them from the Swiss system group stage. Snax didn't have a good event, finishing with a 0.91 rating, but was still the best-rated player on his team, showing the team-wide struggle Virtus.pro suffered at the time.

"I took over the IGL role after StarSeries S3 and stopped after ESL One New York. The role never bother me at all, the experience was okay, and before, in past teams, I was doing it full time. I had led the team before as well, but not for such a long period as this time. I had to change most of my game, I switched the AWP to pasha and started to be more aggressive and be an attacker."

"So the change was massive for me, I just left the freedom I had before behind and focused on my team more, because that is what the IGL needs to do."

Despite Virtus.pro having a new player at the helm, a similar story to StarSeries repeated at ESL One Cologne. Snax's 0.93 rating was enough for him to top the scoreboard for the Polish team, who once again exited a tournament in the group stage, making it the third time in a row—and a third below averagely rated tournament in a row for the 24-year-old.

Coming into the second Major of the year, one on home soil, in poor form individually and team-wise, things were not looking great for the Poles. But in classic Virtus.pro, fashion, the team got it together and out of nowhere made a deep run at the event. Snax played well in the group stage, finishing only one out of five maps with a below average rating, even though he wasn't the main man behind the wins that got them to the playoffs.

With a good showing at PGL Krakow, Snax was once again one of the best Major players of the year

Snax's level was a bit lower in the playoffs, in which they faced North and Immortals, but he was still a consistent contributor in Virtus.pro's 3rd-4th place finish, which is shown in his low DPR (0.65) and high KAST (69.6%) across the nine maps played. Snax admitted that the dreaded thought of bombing out of the Major early and having to go through the qualifiers next time gave them extra motivation to do well in Poland:

"First thing is—everyone knows that qualifiers for the Major are so hard and very exhausting, so that was a kick for us to play better for sure, no one wants to struggle there and waste time. For me, the tournament was also was very important because it was my hometown."

DreamHack Malmö followed after the player break, and when many hoped that Snax was on a path of recovery, the Pole hit a rock bottom. Virtus.pro were eliminated after just two maps, a 16-4 loss to Natus Vincere and a 16-7 loss to Renegades, with Snax finishing the event with a year-low 0.81 rating.

Even though it is considered a medium size event, Virtus.pro faced decent opposition at ESG Mykonos. Snax was in great shape in the group stage, helping Virtus.pro to get the top spot in their group, but had just an average playoff showing as the Poles fell to mousesports and then SK in the third place decider. Overall, it was a decent event for Snax who again stood out with high KAST and low DPR.

The mediocre result at the event in Greece was just a short break from the big event disappointments for Snax and co. Following next was ESL One New York, where FaZe and Liquid proved to be too much for Virtus.pro, leaving them with another group stage exit from what was another very poor event for Snax. That event prompted changes in the team, and Snax dropped the in-game leader role after venting his frustrations on Facebook.

"About my Facebook post, before that, I had heard some bad words, not insults about me or to me, but just the words that shouldn’t be said at all. I was mad a bit and emotional there, but I’m a fighter, I want to fight—I want to be on the top and be among the best ones, not only individually but also with the team, so I sacrificed my own play style and other things to make our team great again. I tried but it didn’t happen, so I stepped down from the role of the IGL and I think I won’t be taking it up again in this lineup."

"Also the Facebook post put me in a tough spot, I wasn’t happy about it at all after posting it because I know the guys a quite bit. So I couldn’t focus on the game like before because I was thinking about that post, and that it would make it hard for the other guys. In the end, I think that it was kick in their asses to play better. I think it worked, but in some way, I fell down a bit because of that."

Another disappointment, this time at ESL One New York, led to the end of Snax's IGLing in Virtus.pro

Even if the team didn't feel an improvement from it right away, as the Poles went 0-3 in maps against Envy and NiP at the ELEAGUE CS:GO Premier group stage just a week later, there was a difference in Snax's individual performance. He still finished the event with a below average rating of 0.92, but Snax was by far the best player for his team, scoring 28% above the average of his teammates, and also recorded a high impact rating (1.11) for the first time since DreamHack Masters Las Vegas. 

The positive impact of the changes was felt at the next big event, EPICENTER, which featured a fierce competition. Despite Snax's somewhat underwhelming group stage showing, especially in the opening BO3 against SK, Virtus.pro made it to the playoffs, and that is where the 24-year-old started redeeming himself. The Pole stood out on the decider map against G2 and performed admirably on the two maps Virtus.pro won in the grand final against the Brazilians, scoring a 1.48 rating on Mirage and a 1.57 rating on Train.

"EPICENTER was different because it was the first tournament after we changed the IGL role after half a year, we were all probably eager to play big matches. I think I made some very good calls in some hard situations and we all had some good moments. At EPICENTER we also had an incredible CT side, which had been a struggle while I was the IGL. I don't know exactly what happened, but for sure it was a good tournament. Also, Virtus.pro are a Russian organization, so it’s our second home now and that's how it works in our team: if we believe and if it’s important we can win."

Both Snax and his team managed to get out of the depths of their slump towards the end of the year

Even though the event wasn't an exceptional one for Snax, EPICENTER marked an uptick in both him and the squad, and it was, to a degree, taken over to the following small event, SL i-League Invitational Shanghai. Despite a shocking 16-4 loss in the opening map of the series against Flash, Virtus.pro recovered and took the series 2-1, with Snax dropping 30+ kills in their two map victories. Even though he may have needed to do more in the grand final for his team to win the event over Renegades, Snax had a solid event overall, finishing as the best of his team in terms of KPR, DPR, and KAST.

With an up-and-down 2017 behind him, Snax shared his hopes and wishes for the next year:

"First of all, it is to get back to my standard A-game, I will train like I did before, I won’t be calling. I will start to practice more, watch more demos because I never did it before I became the IGL... I just need to focus on myself again and do the best for my team, be a great team player."

Why is Snax the #20 player of 2017?

The main reason for Snax's #20 placing is the way he started the year. The Pole was the EVP at WESG and a standout EVP at the ELEAGUE Major. In Atlanta, the Pole led Virtus.pro to a second place finish with an incredible performance, boasting the best Rating, ADR, KPR, DPR, Impact, and KAST of his team. When the DreamHack Masters Las Vegas MVP performance is added to that, Snax was the world's best player for the first couple of months of the year, averaging a 1.26 rating over the three events.

After that, he fell off massively and had a number of poor events, which make him the least consistent member of any HLTV.org top 20 list ever. Losing the consistency he was known for in 2016 is something that Snax attributed to changing a lot of things to adapt to the in-game leader role:

"The role of the in-game leader took something from me, for sure, probably calmness and focus. I was leaning more on the tactics side, I changed a lot, all of the defaults on maps, added new tactics that we even used at EPICENTER, along with some from kuben, I changed my role from AWPer to rifler as I mentioned before. I was focusing more on my team than on myself, but I don’t regret it. It was a good time and I just recalled how it is. I would do it again, but not in here. It takes something away that it shouldn’t."

That being said, Snax was still solid at the second Major of the year as well, which, combined with his strong showing in Atlanta, helped him end the year as the 6th highest rated player at the Majors at 1.19. Also, despite a terrible start to EPICENTER, Snax stepped up in the playoffs of the event, which allowed him to finish as the 13th highest rated player in Big event playoffs at 1.11.

One thing that remained the same throughout all of Snax's years in CS:GO is his impeccable clutching: with 49 1vXs won, he is ranked 4th best for 2017. In the end, Snax ended up finishing top 20 despite sacrificing his individual game to lead, something he bitterly mentioned in the aforementioned Facebook post:

"I never cared that much about this ranking, it was like a present to me for doing a good job. If our team would be number one I would be 100x more happier than just with this ranking. So claiming #20 is not making it better or worse."

"I also think that, if this was my very bad year and I still managed to be in the top 20, I can easily bounce back. ;) Also, it only means that I’m gonna train even harder, even more and better than before. This year was very different than others, we learned our lessons - and me especially. So now it’s time to move on and focus on goals."

Bold prediction

We asked Snax to pick out a player that he thinks could break out in 2018 and join next year's edition of the Top 20 players ranking, and the Pole went for the newest Natus Vincere addition, Denis "electronic" Sharipov:

Russia Denis "electronic" Sharipov

"It is hard to tell, there are many new players who have been doing really well, but I think that electronic will be in the top 20 in 2018, he seems a bit different from the others. I also hope this is the year some Polish youngsters like MICHU break out."

Stay tuned to our Top 20 players of 2017 ranking powered by EGB.com and take a look at the Introduction article to learn more about how the players were picked.

Poland Grzegorz 'SZPERO' Dziamałek
Grzegorz 'SZPERO' Dziamałek
Age:
28
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.03
Maps played:
1421
KPR:
0.70
DPR:
0.66
APR:
0.12
Russia Denis 'electronic' Sharipov
Denis 'electronic' Sharipov
Age:
21
Rating 1.0:
1.11
Maps played:
807
KPR:
0.76
DPR:
0.66
APR:
0.14
Poland Wiktor 'TaZ' Wojtas
Wiktor 'TaZ' Wojtas
Age:
33
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.98
Maps played:
1786
KPR:
0.67
DPR:
0.67
APR:
0.13
Poland Filip 'NEO' Kubski
Filip 'NEO' Kubski
Age:
32
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
0.97
Maps played:
1681
KPR:
0.66
DPR:
0.67
APR:
0.17
Poland Janusz 'Snax' Pogorzelski
Janusz 'Snax' Pogorzelski
Age:
26
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.04
Maps played:
1597
KPR:
0.70
DPR:
0.66
APR:
0.13
Poland Michał 'MICHU' Müller
Michał 'MICHU' Müller
Age:
22
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.08
Maps played:
1462
KPR:
0.75
DPR:
0.68
APR:
0.14
#1
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Finland HentaiReviewer 
Snax was amazing in early year
2018-01-01 12:01
#43
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Sweden Dino1 
Late year tho Pasha was the best in VP.
2018-01-01 12:07
#49
China o_O 
no?
2018-01-01 12:10
Yes?
2018-01-01 12:12
#265
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India TYZ4 
Neo upped his fragging on Q4 2017, though
2018-01-01 14:12
HO WHAT A SHOT ON SEAMPULL , HOOOOO GUARDIAN BYE BYE youtube.com/watch?v=qLVIgyrRk28 what in dogs name is that from znaks , unbeleevabol
2018-01-01 15:02
So did Pasha FUNNILY ENOUGH
2018-01-01 20:14
yes
2018-01-01 12:22
yes
2018-01-01 12:44
#137
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Sweden Dino1 
Yes he actually was.
2018-01-01 12:45
#173
China o_O 
streemer cant be top palayer
2018-01-01 13:17
#230
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Sweden ThorinEk 
yes
2018-01-01 13:59
coldzebra streams
2018-01-01 15:03
#357
China o_O 
yuor mother gay
2018-01-01 15:46
+1
2018-01-01 17:35
#432
China o_O 
thank all my supporter!!
2018-01-01 18:14
i wonder if pasha gets top 20 spot xd
2018-01-01 12:44
#154
Brehze | 
Poland wawywo 
4 sure
2018-01-01 12:57
#195
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Germany Tunio 
think so?
2018-01-01 13:35
It could be possible he gets 19
2018-01-01 14:23
no he was way more consistent than snax and still isn't placed as the 20th. Snax peak was amazing in the first 3 tournaments, but pasha kept up his performance as a second best player, but pasha had the better consistency compared to snax
2018-01-01 14:32
#403
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Sweden s!d_xaxa 
Pasha was their best player no doubt but vp was dogshit at that time. I really doubt whether pasha can really make it into top 20.
2018-01-01 16:42
pasha has to be in the top 20 if snax made it
2018-01-01 17:06
yeah Pasha has been carrying VP along with Byali but its mostly Pasha
2018-01-01 20:48
no snax has stole his place. undeserved fanboy pick by cancer hltv. (Snax was a a Monster in the first 3 tournaments but since then????)
2018-01-01 14:30
yes, Papa number one <3
2018-01-01 16:18
LUL this text so long
2018-01-01 12:14
snax top20 of 2017 pick one hltv its drunk imo
2018-01-01 12:24
#105
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Poland torrmess 
snax should be higher I think
2018-01-01 12:35
Top 5 at Jan, Feb and March Top 100 at other months So... I agree with hltv... Snax is top17-20 player of this year
2018-01-01 12:43
#143
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Poland torrmess 
I think snax was top 2-3 at Jan, Feb, March, he had good PGL(the most important tournament of 2017) and was key player of VP even if VP was in slump. TOP 15 would be perfect for him.
2018-01-01 12:48
Biaseeed
2018-01-01 13:25
#267
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Netherlands jonsve 
Biaseeed
2018-01-01 14:14
lool? snax their worst player in their slump if you compare his talent with taz and neo. pasha and byali (he had also his big up and downs) were better than snax
2018-01-01 14:34
#314
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Switzerland TyRRRR 
no he did too bad, shouldnt even be in that TOP20.
2018-01-01 14:56
Did you watch CS at all before summer or?
2018-01-01 12:46
wow play good january and february suck the rest of the year play esea mountain due league invited in all events, not even qualify take top20 hltv drunk 100% snax its tier5 stfu polish fangirl
2018-01-01 13:46
#241
Thorin | 
Netherlands RafV 
Hahahaha, mad af
2018-01-01 14:04
#284
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World TjaY02x 
mad ruski coz every year suck
2018-01-01 14:27
virtus.premier cryisfree
2018-01-01 15:58
#441
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World TjaY02x 
yeah my ruski friend dont cry
2018-01-01 18:34
#2
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Germany cartii 
LUL
2018-01-01 12:00
#3
rain | 
Hong Kong lonely123 
Nice
2018-01-01 12:00
#4
kaas | 
Netherlands ImKuru 
Yeah dude
2018-01-01 12:00
#5
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Czech Republic MrM4sl0 
xd
2018-01-01 12:00
#6
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Australia aucs 
Nice
2018-01-01 12:00
He used to deserved if he could pull his confidence back
2018-01-01 12:02
he simply need his aim back
2018-01-01 12:45
#8
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Germany fakemail 
Easy for Snax
2018-01-01 12:01
#9
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World vihS 
Damn
2018-01-01 12:01
how. LOOOOOL. how.
2018-01-01 12:01
#186
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Australia KatVian 
The major
2018-01-01 13:25
yeah thats some bullshit, theres atleast 50 others that are better than snax that deserve this l0l
2018-01-01 19:35
#11
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World hailstorm 
Lul
2018-01-01 12:01
#12
kNgV- | 
Poland Mleko1 
2014 top 4 2015 top 4 2016 top 5 2017 top 20 :(
2018-01-01 12:02
#132
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Poland kick_michu 
say thank you to TAZ NEO for making him IGL for over 6 months so this shiters can finally focused on individual game especially BOT Taz he frag and carry VP as fuck
2018-01-01 12:44
#151
FalleN | 
World MangQo 
neo has really stepped up his game for a period this year
2018-01-01 12:51
#13
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Norway Napapijri 
haha, deserved
2018-01-01 12:01
U forgot “un”
2018-01-01 14:05
#14
s1 | 
Armenia gr1nch 
dafuq
2018-01-01 12:01
#15
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Bulgaria BlindBG11 
meh
2018-01-01 12:01
JOKES
2018-01-01 12:01
Why Joke . he deserves it . stop acting like you know really how the ranking system works kids .
2018-01-01 12:27
shh muslim
2018-01-01 12:27
Musiim > you . islam > all . keep hating
2018-01-01 12:28
avg wage of muslim countries: 200$ a month avg wage of every western country: 2000-3000$ a month nt tho
2018-01-01 12:33
typical dane..
2018-01-01 12:42
stone eater dont talk to me hehe
2018-01-01 13:40
#159
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Canada ropzGOD 
Wage has nothing to do with iq. Its not really their fault for earning less..
2018-01-01 13:04
they live in year 800 so yes it is their fault
2018-01-01 13:41
#206
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Canada ropzGOD 
No its the goverments fault but not the users. Maybe hes fakeflagging idk.
2018-01-01 13:45
they still believe in islam which hasnt been updated since year 800
2018-01-01 13:46
#213
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Canada ropzGOD 
And? You probably believe in jesus which also hasnt been updsted in a long time. Any religion hasnt been updated in a long time just kys..
2018-01-01 13:48
I don't believe in any religion and every who does is just naive just tell me the reason to why Christian countries in general is sooooooooooooo much more civilized
2018-01-01 13:49
#238
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Canada ropzGOD 
why tf would i care about some stupid ass christians? idec about that muslim guy. im just tryna tell you that it doesnt matter where tf hes from..
2018-01-01 14:03
general IQ of middle eastern / muslim countries is proved to be lower so yes it does matter
2018-01-01 14:04
#256
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Canada ropzGOD 
Youre so fucking stupid, cant even argue with you /closed
2018-01-01 14:08
can't argue when logic is involved /opened
2018-01-01 14:09
avg wage of zppfr: still asking mom's credit card for skins nt tho
2018-01-01 13:40
some miniruski just spoke to me rofl
2018-01-01 13:41
#207
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Germany Tunio 
is everyone from denmark retarded
2018-01-01 13:46
is every german hitlers' children?
2018-01-01 13:47
#216
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Germany Tunio 
hitler from austria
2018-01-01 13:48
german born in austria to austrian parents nt tho
2018-01-01 13:52
So you are German when you were born in Austria and your parents are both from Austria too ?
2018-01-01 14:19
you're german if u grow up in germany and hold german citizenship
2018-01-01 14:19
#308
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Greece Gianopoulos 
Reported
2018-01-01 14:52
surprise, surprise canptain german defending muslims
2018-01-01 14:16
#280
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Germany Tunio 
islam is biggest shit religion on earth but people from denmark are braindead as well
2018-01-01 14:22
Average spending money in Western countries: 1700-2000$ a month. Average spending in Eastern/Middle Eastern countries: 100$ a month. They might earn less but things cost less too. That's a fact. And what has earning have to with him being muslim lol? After all the richest people in the world are muslims from UAE. "NT tho" and I'm not even a muslim.
2018-01-01 13:47
go buy some gaming gear or any hightech shit for 50$ in middle east gl bro
2018-01-01 13:50
Go buy some food for cheap in Norway/Denmark/USA and other Western countries. You haven't even been there and you're talking like you know everything lol. Every country is different.
2018-01-01 13:54
who the fuck cares if the food is more expensive? it's also treated a lot better than in middle east, the general hygiene of the food and the way it's made is M-I-L-E-S better than any middle eastern country, as well as tax and customs which just goes to the government
2018-01-01 13:58
Like I said. You haven't even been there and you're talking. Stop with the baiting.
2018-01-01 14:01
How do you know?
2018-01-01 14:01
Because I've been to many Eastern/Middle Eastern countries + Egypt. Most of my family is South Eastern and they're living perfectly fine and food is way better than out here lol.
2018-01-01 14:05
"You haven't even been there and you're talking." You just assume shit rofl Been to Turkey multiple times and they're supposed to be one of - if not the most civilized muslim country, and their living standards is just atrocious if u compare them to any western country
2018-01-01 14:07
You know nothing. Not even gonna waste my time explaining it to you.
2018-01-01 14:09
You know nothing. Not even gonna waste my time explaining it to you.
2018-01-01 14:12
#252
Thorin | 
Netherlands RafV 
U are retarded af
2018-01-01 14:07
U are retarded af
2018-01-01 14:08
Du dum og høre på xD
2018-01-01 16:50
at høre på* :-)
2018-01-01 18:23
#310
 | 
Asia ElemeNt4ffff 
What?¿idiot...:))
2018-01-01 14:54
LUL
2018-01-01 12:02
lul
2018-01-01 12:02
#19
XANTARES | 
Poland _kYRA 
10*
2018-01-01 12:02
#219
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Australia TheHypics 
NT
2018-01-01 13:50
#20
zboub | 
Algeria MinTaaa 
Nice
2018-01-01 12:02
#21
 | 
Sweden Rexz 
He could have had an even better spot if VP didn't struggle for like half a year
2018-01-01 12:02
#22
Lithuania fRc_ 
how much VP players will be in top :DDD
2018-01-01 12:02
only 1 more - pasha
2018-01-01 12:23
#101
s1mple | 
Austria Dorica 
i dont think so tbh
2018-01-01 12:32
it's possible but like for me maximum 16-19
2018-01-01 12:43
he would deserve it more. snax had a higher peak but pasha had the consistency. and in snax's highest peak in the first 3 tournaments pasha did well by himself. but hltv doesn't care about performances
2018-01-01 14:35
#309
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Greece Gianopoulos 
+1
2018-01-01 14:53
#254
Thorin | 
Netherlands RafV 
How much
2018-01-01 14:07
4th > 4th > 5th > 20th
2018-01-01 12:02
LMAOOO taco will be in the top20 for sure.
2018-01-01 12:02
he will not
2018-01-01 12:50
#161
 | 
Canada ropzGOD 
If Taco in there ropz or sunny aswell. But it wont happen.
2018-01-01 13:05
ropz and sunny LUL
2018-01-01 15:22
#336
 | 
Canada ropzGOD 
Both better than taco..
2018-01-01 15:23
dude taco won 234-23-423-09423 titles this year ropz and sunny on big stages on bo3 semis, finals etc = choke LUL
2018-01-01 15:23
#339
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Canada ropzGOD 
He won 8 and theyre still better
2018-01-01 15:25
2018-01-01 15:25
#342
 | 
Canada ropzGOD 
Wasnt that the event he won mvp or am i wrong? Plus niko is a bit overrated.
2018-01-01 15:26
yes, 1 top tier mvp while sunny and ropz = choke LUL niko overated, from a guy who said sunny and ropz are good 0/8 or mentally ill
2018-01-01 15:27
#345
 | 
Canada ropzGOD 
sunny rating: 1.09 ropz rating: 1.13 taco rating: 0.96 Are you mentally ill?
2018-01-01 15:31
taco = against top5 teams all the time ropz and sunny = streamers
2018-01-01 15:31
#349
 | 
Canada ropzGOD 
Loooooooool All the time? Youre so deluded. These are official matches against Tier 3-1 Teams. And mouz us easily 1.5. Reported for being stupid and annoying.
2018-01-01 15:33
ok, so by your logic trk > sonny and ropz #thecryisfree proof: hltv.org/stats/players/11163/trk :>
2018-01-01 15:35
#351
 | 
Canada ropzGOD 
This dude plays against low tier brazillian teams, which should be around Tier 5/6 worldwide.. did you really just search some random guy who plays against teams 10x worse against the ones mouz plays against?
2018-01-01 15:37
well, mouz is the same thing =p list here the finals, semis, quarters on lan, at tier1 events, against the best teams in the world and lets see xD cuz TACO is playing in that way all the time :>
2018-01-01 15:38
#353
 | 
Canada ropzGOD 
Just stfu. Youre the most deluded retard on hltv... /closed
2018-01-01 15:39
LMAO no arguments and triggered :> expected from delusional mouz fanboi LULULULUL #thecryisfree #saltytears #mimimi
2018-01-01 15:40
#355
 | 
Canada ropzGOD 
You have the worst arguments dude. From your logic every tier 1-3 team is best team in the world. Expected from low iq 12 year old deluded brazillian that is so stupid he thinks hes cool with being stupid
2018-01-01 15:42
dude when those guys like sunny and ropz play against top teams, they get punished cuz the teams do less mistakes if you get the rating of mouz players, you NEED to take in consideration who they play against. is the same as trk, is retarded to say he is better than ropz because of his rating LUL taco lives in semis and finals at the best lans in the world, ropz and sunny play 1 tier3 final per year LUL you are too delusional.
2018-01-01 15:44
#359
 | 
Canada ropzGOD 
Ok so you said at the end that they play 1 tier 3 final a year? Ok apparently number 2 team in the world is tier 3. Did you see how sunny played in ECS? Oh you know he played very bad cuz mouz is tier 1000000000 and he didnt even get a frag - he played insane against faze and mouz overall was very good ecs and esl pro league. And taco doesnt "live" in semis. Where was SK in ECS Cancun? Yea i thought he lived in semis and finals. So where was taco? And if you say mykonos was tier 3 youre retarded. Where was SK in semis/finals?
2018-01-01 15:48
ok, so sunny had one good big series against a top team ok, outside that 1 good series what sunny and ropz did in 2017? :> if we talking about only 1 good performance, taco has 1 mvp of a top tier tournment, that had the best teams :> and dont start crying, I'm using your logic, thats all.
2018-01-01 15:52
#367
 | 
Canada ropzGOD 
They won Mykonos. 2nd in ECS Cancun Won ROG Masters 2nd dhw 3rd dh denver Also they were a new team obv they dont play good in the beginning. But considering they needed time for chemistry that was good for a team that was tier 3 before the change.
2018-01-01 15:57
so they didnt win any tier1 tournment against a top team taco won MVP on a top tier tourment that ended up in a bo5 against the second best team in the world for real that you still think those t2 players > a t1 player? lol taco plays literally the worst role possible on SK, solo bombs etc, but still got MVP on a tournment like that, an he is a godlike teamplayer ropz and sunny are miles behind LMAOOO not even comparable u listed even second place, 3 place in tier3 tourments imagine if I list all taco's "good" placements LMAO
2018-01-01 16:06
#376
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Canada ropzGOD 
How did i forget to say that. Ok, SK is way better than mouz, obv, and because theyre better, they can get to finals more easily. They dont manage to go to finals because of taco, they won 8 titles because of the rest and taco happened to have 1 good event. How tf did i forget about this anyway nt.
2018-01-01 16:08
lmao the guy is in the lineup for 2 years. all you gold novas can do is look at stats LMAOOO your arguments: sunny and ropz stats, or placing in tournments taco > them on everything besides only rating and he has a mvp of a tier1 tournment, if he was so bad like u say, how da fuck would he get a mvp award in a tournment that had bo5 final with niko, rain, guardian, olofmeister, coldzera, fer, fallen, boltz competing for the mvp explain me that :> LMAO
2018-01-01 16:11
#380
 | 
Canada ropzGOD 
Everyone can have a good tournament. And taco just had one. There explained it. And what is taco better than sunny and ropz besides 1 mvp and 8 titles SK wouldve easily won without him.
2018-01-01 16:13
if you are not baiting you are mentally ill
2018-01-01 16:13
#383
 | 
Canada ropzGOD 
Oh come on now youre saying this cuz you have no fucking answers..
2018-01-01 16:14
ok #RUNSUNNYG #coldzerathebrazilianropz
2018-01-01 16:14
#387
 | 
Canada ropzGOD 
Oh you realized ropz is equal to coldzera gj idiot
2018-01-01 16:15
ropz > coldzera #thecryisfree #RUNMOUZG
2018-01-01 16:17
#391
 | 
Canada ropzGOD 
Wasnt hard was it?
2018-01-01 16:18
Lol SK fans are the worst kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
2018-01-01 20:49
You mad, you not smart you are from brazi-zi-zil!
2018-01-01 14:25
nt weebo
2018-01-01 15:22
#25
Boo | 
France mbl4 
LMAO
2018-01-01 12:02
deserves better
2018-01-01 12:02
LuL, he played terrible this year outside of one or two events. Catering to the VP fanbase.
2018-01-01 12:02
#37
shox | 
Argentina Laskawski 
*Terribly
2018-01-01 12:06
#28
shroud | 
Russia kaeff 
okay
2018-01-01 12:02
#29
s1mple | 
Czech Republic Tomsha 
Cool
2018-01-01 12:03
WTF? snax 20?
2018-01-01 12:03
#222
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Australia TheHypics 
It's 2k18 not 2k15 or 2k16
2018-01-01 13:54
haha he's in top 20? lol
2018-01-01 12:03
#32
 | 
Poland Shym0n 
#19 Pasha HLTV Conformed
2018-01-01 12:03
he has to be but i know the cancer of hltv is so it wont happen
2018-01-01 14:37
#33
shroud | 
Europe Sizexd 
from 5 to 20 comeback Mr.Snaxy :(
2018-01-01 12:04
#34
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China Paracios 
#19 olofmeister
2018-01-01 12:05
#18 felps
2018-01-01 15:48
Nt
2018-01-01 12:05
This perfectly sums up VP this and the last year
2018-01-01 12:05
How the mighty fall.
2018-01-01 12:06
lul dat was the worst year in snax career and he is 20th xD
2018-01-01 12:06
lul
2018-01-01 12:06
#41
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Lithuania c0mmandCS 
Fuck you HLTV, Taco 20th and Snax 4th!
2018-01-01 12:06
#270
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Brazil aAlem 
Taco 1 Cold 2 Allu 3 Niko 4 ChrisJ 5
2018-01-01 14:16
#322
 | 
Lithuania c0mmandCS 
Pls no monkey! 1. NiKo 2. Coldzera 3. Rain 19. Taco
2018-01-01 15:02
#42
KRIMZ | 
Denmark slacking 
wtf? not deserved at all
2018-01-01 12:07
#258
Thorin | 
Netherlands RafV 
You are right, he should be higher, like 17th in my opinion
2018-01-01 14:09
#44
swag | 
Turkey Jagernai 
Snax? Wtf HOW
2018-01-01 12:08
#67
 | 
Poland vzk 
How? Are you stupid?
2018-01-01 12:18
#74
swag | 
Turkey Jagernai 
Hahahhhaa lul
2018-01-01 12:21
mad kebab, you will never have turkish player in top 20 of cs, NEVER
2018-01-01 12:46
#141
swag | 
Turkey Jagernai 
Poopland talking XANTARES better than all poland player
2018-01-01 12:47
Turkish player will NEVER be in top 20 Xantares is braindead aimer get over it
2018-01-01 12:48
#147
swag | 
Turkey Jagernai 
Don't make cry yourself just wait major
2018-01-01 12:50
#163
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Canada ropzGOD 
He should wait for ss to not even make it?
2018-01-01 13:05
His aim isnt even good, he never plays well vs good teams
2018-01-01 14:43
his aim is insane, top level, you seem to be newfag
2018-01-01 14:44
Lmfao watch ANY match vs a tier 1/2 team and look at his POV for the entire match newfag
2018-01-01 14:45
#303
swag | 
Turkey Jagernai 
XANTARES aim is bad? You probably mad buddy
2018-01-01 14:47
No, I said his aim is terrible whenever he plays vs a top team. He chokes. / close
2018-01-01 14:48
you are so dumb man XD and this "/close" shows that you are ashamed, gtfo kid
2018-01-01 15:02
Nt kebab
2018-01-01 15:02
HAHAHAHA
2018-01-01 14:43
#315
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Asia ElemeNt4ffff 
Ppl talking?¿lol
2018-01-01 14:57
nubshit
2018-01-01 12:08
#46
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Australia JoshHartSZN 
Stewie better not be above him
2018-01-01 12:09
#52
 | 
North America Foxaika 
I'd argue Stewie has had a better year. And I think he's a very similar player. Both well rounded, dynamic, and smart.
2018-01-01 12:11
Stewie has definitely had a better year than snax. Deserves to be above him.
2018-01-01 12:13
#58
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Australia JoshHartSZN 
Probably, but I'm a VP homer that doesn't like stew that much so in my biased opinion snax>stew
2018-01-01 12:14
So american who's a fan of envyus and a VP Homer who ranks snax above Stewie. Versatile.
2018-01-01 12:16
#78
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Australia JoshHartSZN 
Homer is the wrong word, used to saying that for my nba team lol. Im just more of a VP fan than C9 mostly due to nostalgia (as nostalgic as u can be for a team thats only existed since late 2013)
2018-01-01 12:22
Just kys
2018-01-01 13:08
#168
 | 
Australia JoshHartSZN 
Bruh i left all negativity in 2017 i don't need that
2018-01-01 13:11
#192
Xyp9x | 
Portugal CRMN1 
As an SK supporter my opinion is unbiased and honestly Stewie had a much better year than Snax overall.
2018-01-01 13:31
#90
Twistzz | 
Poland XowXot 
Achievement wise? Yeah Skill wise? Heck no, Stewie is the crazy highlight guy, but in between those highlights there is a very average csgo player. I even looked into his match history to prove it and as you can see he does deliver, against t3 teams from NA like CLG or NRG, when he is playing against t1 teams in big events he is usually around -4 to +3, so I think thats average, he only had few maps in which he dominated against t1 - 2nd map vs SK on summit, vs NiP on Dreamhack LA. The problem is, he is always playing mediocre if not bad on majors and big events, I dont know why but he just doesnt perform when he is supposed to.
2018-01-01 12:25
Too bad that it's achievements that define a player. This very mediocre average playstyles was better in the long run, wasn't it?
2018-01-01 12:28
No, we arent talking achievements in this ranking. If we were, whole SK would have been on 1-5 spots, Faze on 6-10, Astralis 11-15 and NiP on 16-20 (according to hltv ranking). This is a top20 of players in 2017, sure achievements come into consideration, but we are talking about skill and their ability to carry the teams in the year of 2017. Stewie was average in 2017 and tbh C9 might have been even worse than VP achievement wise, they bombed out of both majors, they didnt win any t1 event and they reached only one final.
2018-01-01 12:32
Can't argue with c9's low, but then VP has a stable lineup. Skillwise Stewie is pretty equal to snax. Stewie doesn't have an average playstyles. He is unpredictable and super aggressive. He also is igl for c9, making it difficult for him to show up.
2018-01-01 12:41
Rankings should rewards achievements, not skill. If Snax won more than Stewie, it means that Snax has something more than Stewie. And how do you define skill ? Ability to create clips on Reddit ? Individual plays ? Ability to lead a team to victory ? Nah, Snax is more skilled. Snax is by far a better player than Stewie who has never been able to bring C9 to a decent level.
2018-01-01 12:41
I think you missed the point in my comment, read it again pal.
2018-01-01 13:04
Not at all. Rankings should reward skill not achievements. A combination is obviously required for the higher spots.
2018-01-01 13:57
#69
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Bulgaria bUHALOVIC 
C9 had better year overall, with VP losing almost everything its normal to be.
2018-01-01 12:18
stewie in top 20 OMEGALUL
2018-01-01 12:37
#115
 | 
Australia JoshHartSZN 
I'd rather he not be but he probably will be
2018-01-01 12:39
99.9% wont be
2018-01-01 12:39
#121
 | 
Australia JoshHartSZN 
Hope so
2018-01-01 12:40
#47
FalleN | 
Indonesia aveenaf 
snax himself said he won't make it in top 20 list but..
2018-01-01 12:09
but hltv is a **** sucking fanboy website who doesn't care about performances
2018-01-01 14:38
0/8
2018-01-01 12:10
#50
 | 
Turkey lulpump1 
Everyone forgot about him lul
2018-01-01 12:11
#51
 | 
CIS SelVoice 
bad year for godsnax =(
2018-01-01 12:11
he should be top3 at least but he's top20 because of bottom.pro never play with polaks in your team
2018-01-01 12:13
LOL, top 50
2018-01-01 12:14
#61
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Sweden hudgun 
i expect top17 but k
2018-01-01 12:16
not deserved love him tho
2018-01-01 12:16
#63
 | 
Estonia sux3ss 
My man
2018-01-01 12:17
#64
FORSYY | 
Czech Republic MSQT 
haha top 20? top 15 ATLEAST.
2018-01-01 12:17
#65
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Bulgaria bUHALOVIC 
from top 3 to top 20 holly shit
2018-01-01 12:17
?? ppl made id from top 3 to nowhere in past whats your point?
2018-01-01 12:49
#156
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Bulgaria bUHALOVIC 
yes but snax is one of a kind mate he is supposed to be the best its kinda wondering how quick he went down
2018-01-01 13:03
i think its cos of weed
2018-01-01 13:03
Pasha top21
2018-01-01 12:17
#68
 | 
Israel Jew159 
LUL
2018-01-01 12:18
#70
shrek | 
New Zealand is_love 
My boi Snax <3
2018-01-01 12:19
Hahahhahaha how?????
2018-01-01 12:19
#73
rain | 
Indonesia lather 
Deserved HAHAHAHAHA
2018-01-01 12:20
#79
roman | 
Palestine ndr[o] 
thick and creamy or thin and watery lather?
2018-01-01 12:22
#75
 | 
Other KlNG 
wtf ?????
2018-01-01 12:21
Didn't expect for him to make it this time, but so strong was the start of the year for him and VP that he just about still did. Hoping for a better year for him and VP in 2018
2018-01-01 12:21
#77
ayken | 
Germany lakan235 
snax at least top5
2018-01-01 12:21
#83
 | 
Russia Rusev 
Pasha higher than Snax ??????
2018-01-01 12:24
Yep
2018-01-01 12:39
nop it won't happen
2018-01-01 14:40
u'll see
2018-01-01 14:42
i don't think so. pasha had this consistency on his side while snax had "the higher peak" but overall snax played like a top 75 players this year and he still is placed as the 20th. snax didn't deserve to be on this list.
2018-01-01 14:55
#492
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Poland Alexkox 
Which players then should be on this list than Snax ??? Are you joking or you are on weed dude.
2018-01-02 10:15
pasha wont even make top 20 :D
2018-01-01 13:29
even if he deserved it more than snax lul
2018-01-01 14:39
#302
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Russia Rusev 
He was obviously a lot better and more consistent than BOT Snax
2018-01-01 14:46
i know that what i am saying all the time. snax doesn't deserve it to be on the list. pasha had to be the 20th best player this year not snax. i doubt that pasha will be the 19-17th best player. I mean pasha was way more consistent that snax and he still didn't make it. normally in a right and fair world hltv has to put pasha now as the 19th best player.. which won't happen any bet.
2018-01-01 14:58
which he would deserve but it won't happen. hltv doesn't care about performance they care about community fanboysm
2018-01-01 14:39
#305
 | 
Russia Rusev 
Hope not... Pasha>>>>>>>>>>>>BOT Snax this year
2018-01-01 14:48
so true but hltv doesn't care about performances
2018-01-01 15:06
#84
 | 
Australia MajiC 
not deserved
2018-01-01 12:24
#85
 | 
Belarus Starvoid 
s1mple is prob #19 according to hltv logic
2018-01-01 12:24
snax top20 of 2017 pick one hltv its drunk imo
2018-01-01 12:25
does thorin make these rankings?
2018-01-01 12:25
#89
walle | 
World zhandri 
VP in 2018 lul
2018-01-01 12:25
half of his tournaments he had a rating lower than 1.00 lol
2018-01-01 12:30
Lul ez bet snax>oskar
2018-01-01 12:30
Coldzera T1 again, for sure.
2018-01-01 12:34
Amazing player but he played good only 2 tournaments 0/8 hltv
2018-01-01 12:37
XD
2018-01-01 12:50
#109
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Spain Hola) 
LMAO wasted spot
2018-01-01 12:37
#110
 | 
France herdzort 
What is EVP ?
2018-01-01 12:37
#120
 | 
Australia JoshHartSZN 
Exceptionally valuable player i think, its a step below the most valuable player
2018-01-01 12:40
#170
 | 
France herdzort 
It's when a player carryed his team but didn't win the tournament ?
2018-01-01 13:15
#174
 | 
Australia JoshHartSZN 
Yea a bit, but they can also be on the winning team. Its basically for players that played very well, but were not MVP caliber.
2018-01-01 13:17
#177
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France herdzort 
Ok ok ! Ty !!
2018-01-01 13:19
#179
 | 
Australia JoshHartSZN 
No worries bud :)
2018-01-01 13:20
#112
 | 
Poland Pati23 
Deserved
2018-01-01 12:38
#113
 | 
Sweden tyc0n 
not even close to lvl 7 faceit... polaks are so bad
2018-01-01 12:38
XDD
2018-01-01 12:51
#114
rain | 
Russia nikkii 
1 place=GODrain
2018-01-01 12:39
#119
 | 
Poland kick_michu 
0_o DH Master MVP EL Major TOP5 player and only 20 place fuck you HLTV
2018-01-01 12:40
#126
 | 
Israel Trust_me_bro 
lol are u braindead ? AdreN mvp major that means he is going to be top 5 ?
2018-01-01 12:42
#135
 | 
Poland kick_michu 
+ for sure higger place than fucking 20 !
2018-01-01 12:45
Did you see nearly every other event for vp? They count bad performances too
2018-01-01 14:04
#193
Xyp9x | 
Portugal CRMN1 
In a year with like 8 big events, that's really nothing. #20 was well deserved. Anything from #16 to #20 would be fair.
2018-01-01 13:35
#214
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Bulgaria AboveYall 
he started really good, but his stats went to PURE GARBAGE for months now.. he has negative kd for couple of months now..
2018-01-01 13:48
not deserved, he sucked a lot
2018-01-01 12:41
How did he arrived in top 20?? Pasha or Neo should be on his place
2018-01-01 12:42
hltv is known to **** suck undeserved players by gifting a top 20 place
2018-01-01 14:41
#128
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France VeryG2Guy 
not deserved
2018-01-01 12:42
#140
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Liberia GibMoneyPlox 
expected
2018-01-01 12:46
my man :)
2018-01-01 12:47
#503
 | 
Poland qube1 
no. MY
2018-01-03 11:09
tldr,only got halfway through
2018-01-01 12:49
#181
 | 
Australia JoshHartSZN 
Good beginning shit middle bit better end=20th place
2018-01-01 13:20
i guess this is kinda deserved feels weird seeing snax only top20 tho
2018-01-01 12:53
#153
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Belgium bioZARRRD 
So many people are always so salty about these rankings lol. Snax deserves this spot, he's had an amazing first half of the year. And even in the late half of the year, he had some highs on the rare occasion. He shouldn't be any higher, but he deserves #20.
2018-01-01 12:55
agreed
2018-01-01 12:58
god snax taco in top20 this year 4 sure... i think all sk members and all faze members top 20 this year
2018-01-01 13:06
Karrigan wont be in top 20 imo.
2018-01-01 13:23
#164
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India as_7 
1. Coldzera 2. Fer 3. Rain 4. Fallen 5. Niko
2018-01-01 13:08
1. Cold 2. Niko 3. Rain 4. Fer 5. Fallen
2018-01-01 14:55
Don't mind me just here to salt my popcorn
2018-01-01 13:09
#167
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Brazil maximoff66 
WHAT IN GOD'S NAME IS THAT FROM SNAX
2018-01-01 13:10
#169
s1mple | 
Russia kensh1 
i think what Snax should be on 25-30th
2018-01-01 13:14
#180
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Spain JasonRacism 
''I also hope this is the year some Polish youngsters like MICHU break out." Rip TaZ
2018-01-01 13:20
#182
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Poland qube1 
I think he could be #17 or something
2018-01-01 13:21
#188
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Brazil WWWWWWW 
Lol
2018-01-01 13:26
the man the best the beast
2018-01-01 13:28
19: felps nice
2018-01-01 13:36
#197
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Poland DominnX26 
LOOOL only top 20 ?
2018-01-01 13:37
And another year where hltv rankings are dogshit. How can u put someone in top20 who went from carrying his team every game, to playing like a t3 player? 2 months on t1 level can‘t be the reason for that placement. There have to be some VP fans in the hltv staff cause i could list at least 30 players that deserve top20 more than snax
2018-01-01 13:38
list it then lulomega
2018-01-01 13:48
K0nfig, oskar, fallen, cold, ropz, fer, NiKo, Rain, S1mple, pasha, device, elige, jw, forest, adren, hobbit, electronic, tabsen, xyp9x, kennys, apex, mixwell, rpk, hen1, rez etc U want more?
2018-01-01 14:01
you just rekt him. +10000 everybody deserved it more than snax (ok he was a top 3 player at the real begin of 2017 but that held only for 1 and a half month lul)
2018-01-01 14:17
no one care about individual performances.rpk,hen1,rez,mixwell,jw,pasha,ropz,electronicl,tabsen wont make top 20 so no one care about ur opinion
2018-01-01 14:49
#330
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Sweden TomodachiOM 
Why not hen1? IMT made it into finals at Krakow and DH Open Montreal.
2018-01-01 15:14
no one cares about ur biased Vp fanboy opinion. If it wasnt for individual performance S1mple would never be in top10 or KennyS so stfu now, i already read enough retarded comments from you in this post.
2018-01-01 15:14
i dont even like VP,i hate them.but u clearly dont know how top work u dumb german
2018-01-01 15:25
I know how top20 works. Do us a favor and stop commenting on this post u dumbfuck. If you really think Snax deserves top20 this year u have to be beaten up.
2018-01-01 15:32
Tldr
2018-01-01 13:39
Expected
2018-01-01 13:42
#205
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Europe tweekzter 
mhm... I'm hungry.
2018-01-01 13:43
wow play good january and february suck the rest of the year play esea mountain due league invited in all events, not even qualify take top20 hltv drunk 100% snax its tier5 POLISH FANS HYPE FOR #20 AHHAAHHAHAHAHAHHAHHAAHAHAHAHAH
2018-01-01 13:47
u need to read the article first u stupid rusky
2018-01-01 13:55
=))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) NORTH IS HERE =)))))))))))))))))))))))))) 0-3 at esl finals =))))))))))))))))))))))))))) TOPKEK
2018-01-01 15:59
thats show how retarded u are,brother of ejsu probably.
2018-01-01 16:13
NORTH IS HEREEEEEEEEEEEEEEE HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA 0-3 esl major finals MSL GAY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2018-01-01 16:17
lol ok Reading Snax thoughts it sounds like VP will do better soon but for him I really hope they will bomb out of the major, sl il s4 and IEM Katowice 2017 so VP can do that split and give Snax a better team. Also lol @ thr delusional VP fanboys thinking Snax deserved higher.
2018-01-01 13:52
he didn't even deserve it. except of the first 3 tournaments lol
2018-01-01 14:16
Snax top 5 PUGB
2018-01-01 13:55
2014 - top 4 2015 - top 4 2016 - top 5 2017 - top 20 legend. /confirmed
2018-01-01 13:56
w8 a second if snax is only 20, then papabiceps is not in top20 xd
2018-01-01 14:07
true. :)
2018-01-01 14:09
unexpected Kapp
2018-01-03 08:10
#228
NiKo | 
Europe trey_ 
XD why is he even in this ranking
2018-01-01 13:57
#244
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World WestSideDude 
+1
2018-01-01 14:04
Cause HLTV sucks VPs dick, as always.
2018-01-01 14:06
#272
Thorin | 
Netherlands RafV 
I love how moronic people comment here before reading the article
2018-01-01 14:16
#392
NiKo | 
Europe trey_ 
stfu, he was sucking dick since february, i dont care about some shit article
2018-01-01 16:19
#404
Thorin | 
Netherlands RafV 
Expected from faze fanguy
2018-01-01 16:46
#438
NiKo | 
Europe trey_ 
XD snax is shit, ty /closed
2018-01-01 18:24
he should have been MUCH higher than 20.. Snax was first part of 2017 the best player in the world.. he solo boosted VP into a major final, he solo won dreamhack for VP.. snax has some of the sickiest highlights for 2017.. sure he took a dip in form, prolly cuz he got forced into being IGL because neo wanted to shine again.. but that should surely not make him drop down from top3 to number 20 lol
2018-01-01 13:59
#246
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World WestSideDude 
much higher for good performance on 2 events? jesus christ
2018-01-01 14:05
#232
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Poland PaweRM 
top 5 2018 mark my words
2018-01-01 14:00
#233
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Brazil evidence1 
well, he did have an underwhelming year...
2018-01-01 14:00
#237
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Poland Hell2k 
Ez predict
2018-01-01 14:03
#240
Snax | 
Poland Mval 
Snax is love, he will remain legend forever.
2018-01-01 14:04
#242
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World WestSideDude 
not deserved, he shouldn't be in top20 in general
2018-01-01 14:04
#245
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Moldova OptimusBlyad 
GOOD ONE
2018-01-01 14:04
How?
2018-01-01 14:06
Good read
2018-01-01 14:06
#263
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Denmark beastd 
SNAX 2K18 LUL
2018-01-01 14:10
#279
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Estonia teremartin 
cykapower 2k18 LUL
2018-01-01 14:20
#405
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Denmark beastd 
ESTONIA 2K18
2018-01-01 16:49
The main reason why VP was bad last year... Snax was in top last 3 years...and then fell off last year...
2018-01-01 14:15
godsnorlax <3 but as expected a shit choice by hltv like always pasha was better than snax this year and look who made it to the top 20 a hltv fancy favourite lol. Sorry this is actually undeserved except of the three tournaments in 2017 which were held from January till 20th February (where snax was a top 3 player)
2018-01-01 14:15
pasha still might be in the top 20 cant he?
2018-01-01 16:33
i doubt that. he did deserve it more than snax to be VP's only top 20 player this year. I doubt that VP will have two players in the 20....
2018-01-01 17:08
#277
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Poland ph0b0s12 
snax 20? he would rekt this monkey-zer0 ass
2018-01-01 14:20
#278
mOE | 
Germany eonm 
wtf
2018-01-01 14:20
#282
NiKo | 
Poland Jaruzel 
1. cold 2. NiKo 3. FalleN 4. rain 5. fer
2018-01-01 14:23
#346
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World WestSideDude 
s1mple top3-5 ez
2018-01-01 15:31
#467
NiKo | 
Poland Jaruzel 
He only won Dreamhack Open Winter 2017 in this year, which is nothing compared to what SK or FaZe players achieved. Achievements are a main component in this ranking. NiKo played insane in 2016, but he didn't achieve much and that's why he finished #10 in the ranking. The same thing will happen with s1mple this year.
2018-01-01 21:47
#477
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World WestSideDude 
this is not "who won" cuz it's 5x5 game, as individual - s1mple is one of the best and for sure in top5. he played amazing against any team in the World in 2017. for sure he had a few bad games, but who didn't.
2018-01-01 23:04
#484
NiKo | 
Poland Jaruzel 
Yeah, but s1mple played in much less important matches, like semifinals / finals of big tournaments than SK or FaZe players and those matches have the biggest impact in the ranking. He is lacking in quantity of "big" matches played in 2017.
2018-01-02 01:55
virtus plow more like virtus get plowed cry is free mr poland
2018-01-01 14:47
#313
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Brazil DooteR_ 
hmmm OK
2018-01-01 14:56
disco doplan >botsnax
2018-01-01 14:58
Losing to Astralis at Clash for Cash is a notable team achievement, really hltv?
2018-01-01 15:00
thats how they justify his undeserved placement hltv's ranking is pure biased cancer
2018-01-01 15:15
#325
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Portugal ItsAvenn 
MUT #2 Fox the best #1 !
2018-01-01 15:07
lol no
2018-01-01 15:09
Fat
2018-01-01 15:10
#329
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Norway Fant0s 
clash for cash was a really good achievment imo xd
2018-01-01 15:13
#333
liTTle | 
CIS Dowa) 
lol wtf why
2018-01-01 15:21
They wrote 3 fucking pages on "why" and you still ask the question.
2018-01-01 16:03
all the salty POOlacks XD
2018-01-01 15:26
ez
2018-01-01 15:27
#358
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Brazil Collee 
Deserved I think. He could be a bit higher but that's arguable. If he had better teammates he'd make the top 5 again
2018-01-01 15:46
#361
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Hungary lemusz 
What do you think, are there more VP member in the top20?
2018-01-01 15:49
nope
2018-01-01 16:15
#362
arvid | 
Netherlands kayman 
Please drop Taz, same to see my fave's being disrispected.
2018-01-01 15:49
#363
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Sweden flippig 
snax in 2017 lul
2018-01-01 15:52
#365
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France kennySsSsS 
3 consecutive years on the top 5 bad year for polish cs my friend
2018-01-01 15:54
#366
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Brazil gangnamstyle 
Deserved
2018-01-01 15:56
Congratulation Snax my friend
2018-01-01 15:57
I bet hes not that happy though lol
2018-01-01 16:32
damn, I missed whole 2k17. He went from being a top3 player to #20. Bad.
2018-01-01 16:01
1- coldzera 2-Niko 3-S1mple 4-fallen 5-Rain :)
2018-01-01 16:06
Simple wont be top3, when he only performed in t3 tournaments
2018-01-01 17:00
lol braindead or wot? from the day he joined liq....hes godlike in liq and in other teams too inluding navi...
2018-01-01 17:34
He never performs when it matters, unlike coldzera etc.
2018-01-02 00:45
#486
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World WestSideDude 
blind s1mple hater detected
2018-01-02 02:36
#485
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World WestSideDude 
+1
2018-01-02 02:35
Best player in the world in January 2017 and he only gets #20 :(
2018-01-01 16:08
Next Egor flamie
2018-01-01 16:09
#378
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Brazil jstrr 
Actually pretty insane if you consider that before IEM Katowice, Snax was considered the best player in the world at that moment
2018-01-01 16:10
From top 4 to top 20 rip Snax
2018-01-01 16:15
sad too see he couldnt keep up his top 5 streak... lets hope he will prove himself this year, cause snax is such an amazing player
2018-01-01 16:31
#399
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Bulgaria vectralsoul 
Kinda unexpected...
2018-01-01 16:36
And he hasn't played for almost half a year, if Snax did he would be contender for TOP 3 as always
2018-01-01 16:36
#401
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Estonia mySSq 
outwashed player
2018-01-01 16:37
#402
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Sweden aer1aL 
ez
2018-01-01 16:38
very bad year from snax and he is still in top20 lmao
2018-01-01 16:51
#410
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China AlexHuang 
ez snax
2018-01-01 16:54
#412
Friis | 
Canada uhJake 
Wow I don’t remember these being so long gr8 read!
2018-01-01 16:59
#416
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Ukraine Fentazi 
YRAPIDOR
2018-01-01 17:07
from top5 to top20 feelsfazeman
2018-01-01 17:10
2018-01-01 17:16
Expected
2018-01-01 17:34
well written Professeur. :D
2018-01-01 17:34
I just hope vp comes back in a decent form this year. You win some you lose some. But no one likes to watch them get knocked out so quickly from events. Usually vp players give you a grand final matches in the quarterfinals or semi finals. Give you a good time watching some great csgo played
2018-01-01 17:40
I doubt it man, best they can do is getting out of groups.
2018-01-01 17:46
hahahahahahahaha
2018-01-01 17:43
#429
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Brazil GhostzeraNTC 
Snax in 2017 lul
2018-01-01 17:46
SNAX HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHA THIS LIST IS ALREADY A JOKE
2018-01-01 18:13
unexpected
2018-01-01 18:14
snax had a great start this year, but his level dropped significantly when he started to IGL again, then he improved at the end of the year definitely deserves to be in top 20
2018-01-01 18:19
wut XD
2018-01-01 18:21
Fair enough
2018-01-01 18:23
#439
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Denmark Kridooo 
Didn't expect any of the VP players in top 20
2018-01-01 18:26
No. 20 Snax No. 19 HUNDEN
2018-01-01 18:30
expected
2018-01-01 18:37
missed old snax :'/
2018-01-01 18:40
#444
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Brazil hugoooo 
Very unexpected. Btw where did you took this 1.10 rating from? hltv.org/stats/players?startDate=2017-01.. It is 1.06 isn't it?
2018-01-01 18:45
You filtered "Big events" only, he also played a few smaller ones that do not show up in that list. If you filter "LAN", it is 1.10
2018-01-01 21:52
#470
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Brazil hugoooo 
Wait... are you telling me you also count non-Big events to make the top 20 list?!?? That's not how it's supposed to work... I'm disappointed.
2018-01-01 21:55
That's how it's always been, but of course Big events matter more. This is an overall rating we're talking about.
2018-01-01 21:55
#472
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Brazil hugoooo 
At least it explain some of the weird 'randomness' on the lower positions (below 15th) we have seen on the past years.
2018-01-01 21:56
ez
2018-01-01 19:22
WEW nice, i got that kinda correct, my hltv top 20 btw if you guys wanna check it out : hltv.org/forums/threads/1645165/hltv-top..
2018-01-01 19:24
now elige 19 01 - Cold 02 - NiKo 03 - Fer 04 - raiN 05 - FalleN 06 - Device 07 - KennyS 08 - Dupreeh 09 - S1mple 10 - Kjaerbye 11 - GuardiaN 12 - K0nfig 13 - Xyp9x 14 - Oskar 15 - Hobbit 16 - AdreN 17 - Boltz 18 - Felps 19 - Hen1 20 - Snax RIP OLOF APEX BYALI AND PASHA :( 21 - Olof 22 - ApEx 23 - Byali 24 - Pasha
2018-01-01 19:25
fer on top 3? srsly braindead or wot?
2018-01-02 14:46
vp barely tier 20 xd next year theyll be out of this, mark mah wordz.
2018-01-01 19:31
grubas pierdolony
2018-01-01 19:38
didnt see this coming
2018-01-01 19:44
lul rip hltv ranking if snax is top20 VP this year are top50
2018-01-01 19:45
#455
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Jordan human928 
In the begin of the year he was the best player in the world he carried vp to major finals
2018-01-01 20:00
Very undeserved should of not been in the top 20 done literally nothing all year.
2018-01-01 20:13
Very undeserved should of not been in the top 20 done literally nothing all year. Edit: His rating was 1.06, not 1.10 really weird with this selection I think someone on HLTV that's involved with this is Polish literally the only way he made top 20 for 2017.
2018-01-01 20:19
If it's a bait it's a bad one hltv.org/stats/players?startDate=2017-01..
2018-01-01 21:53
Wait that is quite confusing only the LAN stats are included in the decision? Also I'm not trying to bait and stats without any context doesn't really show anything for me maybe I'm different in that sense that I can't just look at someones rating and over rate them even when I followed the whole year and know they didn't perform well. So does that mean Online stats mean nothing? It's not like VP was qualifying for any events the LANs they attended to were from invites not from qualifying so to basically exclude where he wasn't performing and where VP wasn't performing aka not qualifying for anything and getting dumpstered online doesn't seem fair to me. Also I'm not looking for a ban I just came off a 1 week ban so please don't take this for some bait or anything I'm being serious. Edit: Since were on the topic I guess Vilga of Secret female team and Xantares should be ranked in the top 5?
2018-01-01 22:07
Yes, only LAN stats are considered - and certain LANs are omitted if they are too small, which should also answer your question about the examples you gave at the bottom. If they played too few high-tier events, they will not make the top 20, because they haven't shown that level against the best opposition often enough. In any case, it's not me putting together the list, that's always Tgwri1s, so I'm not 100% qualified to answer everything, though over the years I've gathered quite a bit of the process.
2018-01-01 22:56
No worries the answer you gave me is what I already suspected from following this site over the years. I have one final question is tgwri1s Polish or not? I mean everything you told me so far answered everything I wanted to know but I just have this feeling tgwri1s is actually Polish and that's why Snax is on this list, even after you posted the stats for me, after I went through them and looked at his match history, everything else I do not know how he landed in the top 20.
2018-01-01 23:29
Not even worth a comment other than this twitter.com/Tgwri1s/status/9477886799337..
2018-01-01 23:30
True, thanks for all info and I look forward to seeing the rest of the list. Have a good new year my bro Striker <3.
2018-01-01 23:33
#458
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Sweden lagcats 
good spot for snax
2018-01-01 20:14
#461
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Kazakhstan ezBORAT 
Snax? WTF TOP KEK TOP LUL
2018-01-01 20:45
#462
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Brazil BuddyINSANE 
Wow snax! We smart, we loyal, we friendly, we are from BRAZIL! Kreygasm
2018-01-01 20:46
Jesus christ, can you not just post the whole list then highlight players? Way to many paragraphs for a person who's sitting at the bottom in 20th. Btw you have his rating wrong, and he literally did nothing this year, NOTHING.
2018-01-01 21:20
#483
Thorin | 
Netherlands RafV 
Cry is free
2018-01-02 01:34
I think electronic will be in top20 this year.. Snax is very smart playrer, deserved
2018-01-01 22:22
#475
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Canada gritabit 
Deserved. Surprised he didn't get a higher spot, but considering his 2nd half of the year he's lucky he made it.
2018-01-01 22:29
#481
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Iceland caverat 
lmao snax on top 20 xddddddddd
2018-01-01 23:48
#491
 | 
Poland qube1 
Legendary dzikus
2018-01-02 09:46
2014 - top 4 2015 - top 4 2016 - top 5 2017 - top 20 :(
2018-01-02 12:08
#505
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Poland qube1 
2018 - top 1
2018-01-04 07:14
Snax 2017 top 20!!!!! Hahahahah awesome joke
2018-01-02 16:07
how much money vp paid to hltv, to have at least one player from their team on the list
2018-01-02 17:06
#504
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Poland MakaPaka1337 
XDDDDDDDDDD
2018-01-03 20:08
#497
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Brazil Leofm10 
PASHA LONDON SCHOOL
2018-01-02 20:04
snax is too good for this low game
2018-01-02 20:24
He is a good player but nah, this year wasn't good for him at all
2018-01-03 00:37
#502
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Poland qube1 
Could be higher
2018-01-03 08:16
#506
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Poland qube1 
+1
2018-01-04 07:15
#507
Thorin | 
Netherlands RafV 
+2
2018-01-06 01:35
snax 2017 lmao :D :D
2018-01-10 21:36
I don't think Snax should be in top20 this year. Started off the year good. One of the events was a major. But a terrible drop off for 3/4ths of the remaining year.
2018-01-11 03:35
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