Hiko: "The lowest point of my career, but we can only bounce back from here"

Following Rogue's victory over Rise Nation which secured them another season of ESL Pro League, dust2.us talked to Spencer "Hiko" Martin about the difficult start the team had, playing with European players and his former teammate Sean "seang@res" Gares.

Rogue's season featured a lot of roster instability, which showed in their results and left them fighting for their EPL spot in the relegation tournament that was held on LAN, alongside the MDL Global Challenge Finals. Despite losing to Ghost, Rogue managed to stay in NA's top online league with wins over GX and Rise Nation.

Hiko misses the GeT_RiGhT and Happy style of lurking

dust2.us's Joe "tolkienfanatic" Cardali talked with Spencer "Hiko" Martin in the aftermath of the ESL Pro League Relegation, with the North American player admitting that he has fallen a long way from his early-CS:GO status.

Read the outtakes from the talk below, but be sure to check out the full interview on dust2.us for more details.

You guys just successfully re-qualified for EPL, how does it feel after the myriad of issues with your roster during the season?

Obviously it feels good, nobody wants to get relegated — that would be a huge embarrassment, not just for me but the whole team. It sucks we had the problems at the start of the season, having to use three or four different people for the last two spots. It's unfortunate we were in relegation, a bit bittersweet that we had to fight for our spot.

It's definitely the lowest point of my career, but we can only really bounce back from here. We've shown some promise, I don't think we've looked that bad. We'll see what happens with the team and the roster in the future but the main goal and purpose was for us to qualify. We've done that and now all we need to do is work to get better.

If you were to rewind back to the start of 2017, would you think that out of the original compLexity/Cloud9 core that Sean "sg@res" Gares would be on the highest ranked team out of you all right now?

That's a loaded question. He's definitely one of the better IGLs [in NA] in terms of preparation and overall knowledge, it's not that surprising. I'm more surprised that Mike "shroud" Grzesiek has retired to become a streamer and that Jordan "n0thing" Gilbert is kind of in limbo between being a caster or wanting to return as a player. It's kind of weird that things have turned out the way they did.

You've had a lot of experience with European players, more so than many other NA players. What are your thoughts on the divide and the differences between the two regions?

I've always been a player that's thrived under a non-super structured playstyle. Even at my peak, I was never the kind of person who was throwing flashes, if you go back to my Cloud9 days I knew no smokes. My role was to stay alive until the end of the round and win clutches and that's what I was good at. It's unfortunate that the kind of lurker, slower playstyle got sort of phased out somewhat. I always know playing against Christopher "GeT_RiGhT" Alesund, Vincent "Happy" Schopenhauer that you always expect them to be behind you so you always wait an extra second for that lurk, that time that you wouldn't wait if you were playing someone else.


The full interview with Hiko is available here

United States Spencer 'Hiko' Martin
Spencer 'Hiko' Martin
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Rating 1.0:
Maps played:
f0rest | 
Bosnia and Herzegovina Fackyyy 
2018-01-10 13:13
Lithuania Woozylul 
2018-01-10 13:14
Happy | 
Poland Millka 
maybe not that much but he became tier 3 players sad
2018-01-10 14:46
Anyone think he’s just going to go full time streamer
2018-01-10 17:33
Yugoslavia HLTV_BOSS 
why would anyone watch him. boring personality, doesnt get any better at the game. guess his mom brings him loads of viewers
2018-01-10 19:37
Good point
2018-01-10 20:42
United States vikingswine 
How so?
2018-01-11 07:10
South Africa BrucieBoi 
shoot up hiko you fat burger n0 want want you dead weight on team low low low low
2018-01-11 09:40
He's just chill, its not boring
2018-01-11 13:36
2018-01-10 13:13
Major to premier
2018-01-10 13:14
Bangladesh drvken 
2018-01-10 13:15
Brazil Laan 
2018-01-10 13:15
100% legend :c miss old Liquid with Simple and him :c
2018-01-10 14:38
Bangladesh drvken 
yee :,ccccc
2018-01-10 18:42
broky | 
Latvia De1Co 
Inhuman reactions
2018-01-10 13:57
flusha | 
Brazil Riiko 
2018-01-10 18:46
broky | 
Latvia De1Co 
He had inhuman reactions in his career. No one saw him falling down that fast xD
2018-01-10 19:22
2018-01-10 13:14
Sweden z1mb4 
2018-01-10 13:14
yes | 
Europe Yes_Bot 
2018-01-10 13:14
Xyp9x | 
Czech Republic Puget 
or retire
2018-01-10 13:14
United Kingdom ChrisFroome 
2018-01-10 13:14
2018-01-10 13:14
United States SladesterG 
Rlgue to the major???? Oh wait
2018-01-10 13:14
United States Scvboy1 
OPTIC isn't there either man.
2018-01-12 20:55
United States SladesterG 
Why you point this out "fan of optic"
2018-01-12 21:42
United States SladesterG 
Why you dising optic "fan of optic"
2018-01-12 23:07
United States Scvboy1 
I'm not, just speaking the truth. Don't talk shit if your team didn't make it.
2018-01-13 03:51
United States SladesterG 
It was a joke btw kys untrue fan
2018-01-13 06:41
United States Scvboy1 
Kya delusional fan
2018-01-13 06:48
United States SladesterG 
How am I delusional
2018-01-13 10:18
2018-01-10 13:15
why the fuck do you guys make us go on a NA only website now which is clearly yours? wtf xd Im not going to
2018-01-10 13:15
Germany t_mmey 
u wot m8 ?
2018-01-10 13:17
"The full interview with Hiko is available here."
2018-01-10 13:21
Germany t_mmey 
Well, they can't just copy a full interview from another website, because would kinda be stealing LuL
2018-01-10 13:28
f0rest | 
Serbia dankooo 
so like stealing from yourself on your other site
2018-01-10 13:51
Germany t_mmey 
but it's not their site
2018-01-10 13:53
Dust2 is owned by hltv
2018-01-10 14:42
Germany t_mmey 
well how the fuck does that even make sense LuL EDIT: I read #40 and now I get it
2018-01-10 14:44
Why cant hltv branch out and create other sites that do other things than what this one does?
2018-01-10 14:47
Germany t_mmey 
why not just do everything on one site and give users the ability to filter for what they want to see and what not?
2018-01-10 14:50
Because why would you only get advertising revenue from 1 site if you can have it on both?
2018-01-10 16:01
Germany t_mmey 
ugh, always this
2018-01-10 16:03
Because dust2.dk is much only focused on the danish scene for example.
2018-01-10 16:32
Dust2.us is owned by HLTV. There are other people that run it but the purpose of websites like dust2.us and dust2.dk is that they talk more in depth with the scene of the region the website is about. It's just like HLTV except you will see stories about other teams in North America as well. They have different people managing the website and writing the articles.
2018-01-10 13:43
broky | 
Latvia De1Co 
ESL and ESEA is also owned by 1, but they have different groups which earns money for themselves...
2018-01-10 19:26
Germany t_mmey 
2018-01-10 13:16
Poland CZADzz 
2018-01-10 13:40
Chile satch 
2018-01-10 16:14
2018-01-10 19:31
nobody care about this noob
2018-01-10 13:16
yes, why didnt he already retire
2018-01-10 17:10
Jesus | 
Czech Republic Jurys 
2018-01-10 13:17
Germany Ofenmeister 
If u wanna get back into a good career, Get.the.fuck.outta.NA.
2018-01-10 13:17
He should join optic and move to EU with them
2018-01-10 14:43
Germany Ofenmeister 
Or make an own team theres enough talent that doesnt play rn dennis maikelele pyth Pimp And so on
2018-01-10 14:48
United States AjAjCaptain 
RjP :*
2018-01-10 13:17
Russia RacerJuiced_ 
2018-01-10 13:18
Finland hotdog^ 
2018-01-10 13:47
2018-01-10 17:11
2018-01-10 17:45
Brazil Noice_boyzZ 
Ur a genius
2018-01-10 18:18
What Hiko really said: I dont give a fuck about my career cuz I get sticker money plus some people who I dont know give me money .Also Battleroyal is da new shit and I can earn alot of money from it so fuck it ,imma end my career prbly in like half of a year so idc.
2018-01-10 13:19
+1 just a fat gold digger with 10 year old fans
2018-01-10 13:24
2018-01-10 17:11
Hiko Have CAREER when?
2018-01-10 13:27
2018-01-10 13:30
And liquid
2018-01-10 13:30
i know lol i was kidding hes the worst pro player in NA from Top To Low LUL
2018-01-10 13:32
He's good just not consistent, like the NA STYKO
2018-01-10 13:33
what you talking about, Styko consistently plays bad
2018-01-10 13:38
wow are you fakeflagging or are u just a reasonable person from slovakia?
2018-01-10 13:42
ye i am from Slovakia, mouz is too good for Styko, idk what is he doing there
2018-01-10 13:44
STYKO has the hardest role of them all and he is there to gather information, not frags
2018-01-10 14:36
Norway insy 
Stupid. You should gather frags no matter what role you've got.
2018-01-10 19:47
What? Hiko is a very good player in NA
2018-01-10 14:44
Spain Ornitorrinco 
Huck Fiko
2018-01-10 13:34
Wait that quote is from sing
2018-01-10 13:41
North America ksp52 
“I’ve lost so much, I’m bound to win now” dumbass logic
2018-01-10 13:42
2018-01-10 13:44
Switzerland BottomFragger 
and he's sad that his pussy playstyle is not accepted anymore, even though he didn't help his team for shit
2018-01-10 14:01
Sweden EraXYT 
Last night took a L but tonight i bounce back
2018-01-10 13:47
Brazil fuNNa 
2018-01-10 13:50
Peru vaniIIa 
“The gambler's fallacy, also known as the Monte Carlo fallacy or the fallacy of the maturity of chances, is the mistaken belief that, if something happens more frequently than normal during some period, it will happen less frequently in the future” aka “you can only be washed up for so long!” -Hiko 2018
2018-01-10 13:57
Sf | 
Turkmenistan Autista 
Respect to Hiko. He told everyone he won’t retire before he wins a major and now he plays for major favorite team rogue. Dreams can true. Respect to Hiko.
2018-01-10 14:09
Mongolia OMgLGaming 
2018-01-10 17:21
Serbia aXilelele 
Dreams can true
2018-01-10 23:12
That what happens when no s1mple to carry you
2018-01-10 14:13
He was good but the game moved on You can't sit out rounds and spray for clutches anymore
2018-01-10 14:14
s1mple | 
Russia kensh1 
s1mple is better
2018-01-10 14:21
Potti | 
Other flynttt 
remember when you chose to not fairplay? =)
2018-01-10 14:33
Sweden Bangs 
remember how he followed tournament rules with the decision?
2018-01-10 15:33
Potti | 
Other flynttt 
rules forced him to not fairplay?
2018-01-10 16:35
Sweden Bangs 
The rules were that the round couldnt be replayed if damage had already been dealt in the round. The admins should of made the call that the game would continue as normal, not give the other team a choice
2018-01-10 16:45
Potti | 
Other flynttt 
do your research.. the final decision was made bye liquid
2018-01-10 16:45
Sweden Bangs 
"The admins should of made the call that the game would continue as normal, not give the other team a choice" Never said that liquid didnt make the final decision, i said that it wasnt supposed to be their decision to make
2018-01-10 16:52
Potti | 
Other flynttt 
true.. this discussion is old and doenst really matter he could have fairplay anyways.. as fallen would do in the same situtation (i hope so)
2018-01-10 16:55
kebab | 
Turkey Styyx 
You cant bounce it back grandpa, just retire Have a kebab day! -VeryKebabGuy
2018-01-10 14:34
Bulgaria bUHALOVIC 
Hiko in 2018 OMEGALUL
2018-01-10 14:47
United States EmperorTrump 
Are u kiddin me Hiko? Your shitty team is dead last at ESL NA League full of amateur semipro teams. You won't bounce back. You should have pursue caster or analyst career when you were hot but now you're irrelevant so no one would pick you up even for analyst desk.
2018-01-10 14:50
+1 lol he beats rise nation and thinks hes good
2018-01-10 15:13
Admitting he plays like a pussy, intentionally putting less thought into his game play at that...
2018-01-10 14:51
"I always know playing against Christopher "GeT_RiGhT" Alesund, Vincent "Happy" Schopenhauer that you always expect them to be behind you" I'm washed up and I know it.
2018-01-10 15:03
Turkey tastemycobra 
keep being positive hiko
2018-01-10 15:06
Ukraine volanchick 
2018-01-10 15:11
2018-01-10 15:13
Croatia Makz_CRO 
Basically what he is saying is that he misses not doing anything for the whole round while his team gets a site. Doesn't wanna talk about roster changes and then blatanlty tells who is gonna leave. Surprised he wasn't kicked instead. Lots of opinions and shit attitude for a washed out player. I have more respect for shroud leaving and n0thing taking a break than him playing like shit and still thinking he is any good.
2018-01-10 15:20
I miss seeing this guy at the top
2018-01-10 15:29
Australia adiosLoL 
hmm he was clutch master.... everybody missing you Hiko
2018-01-10 15:47
Brazil BuddyINSANE 
Good Luck Hiko, We smart, we loyal, we friendly, we are from BRAZIL! Kreygasm
2018-01-10 16:05
Rogue will win the next major (after Boston) beating FaZe in the semis and SK in the finals, Hiko MVP Confirmed by Hiko :>
2018-01-10 16:11
u wont do shit cuz u bad washed up
2018-01-10 16:10
Hiko I wish you good luck on trying to bounce back. If you believe, dream and imagine you can do it. You will succeed. I'll be rooting for you.
2018-01-10 16:20
Poland kick_michu 
another article and story about washed up pro
2018-01-10 16:21
I wish him good luck, but he was never too good =T nowdays people just got better, is not like he started to suck lol but he is an older pro, I hope he still getting checks for a while
2018-01-10 16:33
Bulgaria vectralsoul 
Maybe a team with Hiko, cadiaN, vice, n0thing and freakazoid could be a decent tier2 team, otherwise I can't really see him getting on any relevant team with so many young and promising players out there...
2018-01-10 18:58
"THE LOWEST POINT OF MY CAREER" more 2 follow LUL so washed up and overrated
2018-01-10 16:43
lol it gets more hilarious as his career point just keeps dropping lower and lower and never bounces back because of his stupid decisions.
2018-01-10 16:51
he'll bounce back on his head alright
2018-01-10 17:03
no1 cares you're bad
2018-01-10 17:08
past your peak bud
2018-01-10 17:18
hiko hommies
2018-01-10 17:43
2018-01-10 17:55
Spain chuggo 
Hiko is such a positive guy... Wish him a good luck! He almost won Major with S1mple. Twice...
2018-01-10 18:07
Malaysia byaIi 
hiko or slemmy ?
2018-01-10 18:16
France Yoyoona00 
Hiko made his time
2018-01-10 18:21
Ireland Mackey91 
I don't think so, look NIP
2018-01-10 18:53
just retire already
2018-01-10 19:00
United States VerySmartGuy 
He still hasn’t retired? wtf
2018-01-10 19:40
I wonder if he'd be up for joining the ANZ league. He'd bring in the experience we so desperately need.
2018-01-10 21:28
North America hiqb8s 
hiko was never as good as he thinks. just pure ego and not very good cs. he wont last in epl long time, lots of new teenage kids are coming thru the pipeline ....
2018-01-10 22:04
He wasn't like insanly good, he was really decent player, but he undoubtedly went down the hill
2018-01-10 23:55
2018-01-10 22:15
2018-01-10 22:17
Slovakia iorveth 
2018-01-10 22:40
Hong Kong TROIIDA 
Uhm? He's been terrible since he used up all he had for that 180 mid doors kill.
2018-01-10 23:05
United States cs_solo 
Please Hiko, We want you back.
2018-01-11 01:56
United States V1ruh 
2018-01-11 02:44
Germany b1azed 
shrouuuuuud ;''''''''''''( <3
2018-01-11 10:36
He has never won a tournament in his hole life and he says its his lowest point in his carrier lol logic maybe individual or something then i guess
2018-01-11 10:45
Sweden Nkzz 
Wtf why do many ppl hate Hiko so much?
2018-01-11 10:59
cause he is so overrated. All americans like to overhype their players.
2018-01-11 11:13
cause he is so overrated. All americans like to overhype their players.
2018-01-11 11:13
United Kingdom Jeremy_Kyle 
Hes arrogant
2018-01-13 10:23
vberg | 
North America Mang0 
Lowest point= his heaviest point, because that fatty sinks into every chair so badly
2018-01-11 15:41
Sweden Bangs 
Its kind of funny seeing br fans still being salty towards Hiko
2018-01-11 15:50
this fans are so salty hahhaa
2018-01-29 17:56
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