Top 20 players of 2017: s1mple (8)

MIRAA
January 11th, 2018 20:00

Number eight on our top 20 ranking powered by EGB.com belongs to Aleksandr "s1mple" Kostyliev, who returns to the list after debuting last year. The Ukrainian prodigy makes the cut due to his exceptional fragging prowess and impact all year long, even in Na`Vi's weak tournament runs.

Top 20 players of 2017: Introduction

Aleksandr "s1mple" Kostyliev burst onto the competitive scene in early 2014, when he helped a Ukrainian/Russian mixture called Hashtag, led by Andrey "B1ad3" Gorodenskiy, win the Voronezh Cup, which, among others, featured a HellRaisers.mix with Kirill "ANGE1" Karasiow at the helm and with current Gambit duo Mihail "Dosia" Stolyarov and Dauren "AdreN" Kystaubayev on their ranks.

After that success, a 16-year-old s1mple realised that he would eventually become a professional CS:GO player. But it would take him a few months before such an offer came  he landed such a deal as it was only in October, after plying his trade for Courage and Amazing Gaming, that he joined HellRaisers, who were looking to replace AdreN after a run of poor results.

With HellRaisers, s1mple put in above-average ratings in every tournament in which he competed, including at ESWC 2014 and at the DreamHack Winter Major, but he still found himself out of the team at the start of 2015 because of two things: the ESL ban that dated back to his 1.6 days and that would rule him out of IEM Katowice, and his infamous on-stream comments about German people.

s1mple at one of his first events with HellRaisers

Just days later, s1mple joined dAT Team, who would later sign for FlipSid3 Tactics. The Ukrainian continued to show his credentials as one of the most talented rising talents in the scene, averaging high ratings at big events like Copenhagen Games, DreamHack Open Tours, DreamHack Open Summer and the SLTV StarSeries XIII Finals - despite the team’s shortcomings.

As months went by, everyone realised that he had grown too big for the team - including s1mple himself. In the summer of 2015, the youngster took to Social Media to reveal that he would not play for FlipSid3 again following the team’s semi-final exit at ESWC, an event which they attended with Spencer "Hiko" Martin as a stand-in. 

That marked the beginning of a rough patch for s1mple, who linked up with two other Ukrainian players, Vladyslav "arch" Svistov and Ilya "fix" Golovko, on a team called Evolution, without any notable results. Itching to play on LAN again, the youngster joined HellRaisers ahead of the DreamHack Cluj-Napoca 2015 Major Qualifier, where he had the second-highest rating of the tournament at 1.28 despite the team finishing 9th-12th. After the event, talks between s1mple and HellRaisers broke down, with the player being released from his FlipSid3 contract shortly afterwards.

s1mple powered Liquid to reach a Major final

2016 brought s1mple a spell overseas as he reunited with Hiko on Liquid, with whom he attended his first Major, MLG Columbus, where he led the team with a 1.17 Rating in their semi-final run. However, he ended up stepping down from the roster in April due to homesickness and issues related to his role within the squad. After attending a StarLadder Invitational event with Worst Players, the Ukrainian returned to the Liquid roster for two final events: the ECS Season 1 Finals and the ESL One Cologne Major. After a disappointing outing at the British event, Liquid came out with all guns blazing at the Major, with s1mple inspiring the team to reach the final with a 1.18 Rating - the perfect ending to a troublesome stint abroad.

After the Major, the Ukrainian returned to more familiar grounds as he linked up with Natus Vincere, stepping into the shoes of veteran ingame leader Danylo "Zeus" Teslenko. Many had tipped the new Na`Vi roster for greatness, but a first-place finish at ESL One New York, which earned s1mple an MVP medal, was the only remarkable achievement of what was an otherwise forgettable four months for the team, which, however, did not keep him from securing the fourth place in our top 20 ranking of 2016.

For Na`Vi, just like for most other top teams, 2017 began with the ELEAGUE Major, in Atlanta. The Ukrainian team seemed to be in prime position to win the event after losing just 12 rounds total in the Swiss stage, in which they thrashed mousesports, EnVyUs and SK, but then they were thrown a curve ball in the shape of Astralis, who had barely made it to the playoffs. The Danish team ended up prevailing in a three-map series, with s1mple finishing the event with a 1.19 rating - second to Egor "flamie" Vasilyev’s 1.36 - and a high +24 KDD.

Na`Vi endured a rough start to the year

A similar fate would befall Natus Vincere at DreamHack Masters Las Vegas as the Ukrainians were sent packing in the quarter-finals, this time after meeting SK. s1mple was the main driving force for the team, whom he led with an average 1.12 rating.

"We practiced a lot before the Major, but after the easy group stage we lost because of our low mental game. I am pretty sure that there was only one team who had a chance to stop us, and that was Astralis.

"At DreamHack Las Vegas, we were close to winning our match as well, but we lost ourselves again. Personally, I thought that, with more practice, we would bridge the gap to the top sides."

IEM Katowice was s1mple’s lowest point of 2017 as it featured his only below-average tournament rating (0.99) of the year, in addition to a low ADR (74.2) and Impact (0.94). Curiously, 20-year-old got off to a fantastic start, with high ratings against both Virtus.pro (1.34) and SK (1.37). But then Danish teams proved to be his kryptonite as he was in the red in the single-map games against North and Heroic, and in the relegation series against Astralis.

In true s1mple fashion, the Ukrainian star bounced back from that disappointing outing with one of his most memorable events of the year. At the StarLadder i-League StarSeries Season 3 event, in Kiev, he averaged a tournament-high 1.36 rating - one of the seven stats categories he led, the others including KDD (+48), Damage per round (99.1), kills per round (0.91) and percentage of rounds with at least one frag (59.2%). Natus Vincere still fell short in the semi-finals against Astralis, but s1mple was rewarded for his efforts with an EVP mention.

After such a dominant display, s1mple brought in his second-lowest rating of the year at DreamHack Tours, 1.01, as Na`Vi crashed out of the tournament in the groups. s1mple had just one positive rating over five games, but it was such a dominant display (1.80) that he was still able to end the event in the green and with a rating that was 12% higher than the team's average. This speaks volumes about the squad’s struggles - which continued at the ESL Pro League Season 5 Finals, where they once again were sent packing in the group stage, with two victories from five games. s1mple was ranked second in the team with a 1.14 rating, raising eyebrows for his dominant display against NRG (2.23 rating, +23 KDD).

"After every game, every tournament I practised a lot in many ways. As time went by, I understood that all problems are in your head, and I understood that you can solve them quickly if you find your personal strength.”

ESL One Cologne provided s1mple with his second EVP mention of the year as he put in a 1.17 rating in Na`Vi's semi-final run. He had 1+ ratings in all but two of the seven maps he played, peaking against mousesports (2.05 rating, +12 KDD) and topping the scoreboard in the quarter-final match against G2 (1.32 Rating and 97.5 ADR) before the team came up short against Cloud9.

"Everything was great before we took on Cloud9, I had not seen a North American team in such great form in a long time. Their own style was really hard to predict, beautiful tactical play with great individual performances, and it surprised me a lot."

ESL One Cologne gave s1mple his second EVP of the year

PGL Major Krakow marked the start of a series of events in which s1mple was Natus Vincere’s main contributor, regardless of how well - or how poorly - the team did. At the second Major of the year, Na`Vi went out in the groups - the first time it happened since EMS One Katowice 2014 - but it certainly was not because of s1mple, who averaged an impressively high 1.43 rating - the highest of the tournament and 34% above his team’s average -, and dropped 30 bombs in the defeats to G2 and fnatic. No one apart from s1mple excelled in the tournament, with the next closest player being flamie at 1.07.

"Everyone was really sad about this, everyone understands that, without a lot of practice, especially before a Major, you cannot really go far. The atmosphere was professional, but we could not find our game anymore.

"I was getting frustrated, of course, ratings like that mean nothing if your team is still losing. I was blaming myself after every game, I was trying to find my own individual mistakes and trying to fix them as quickly as possible."

After the end of the Major, Na`Vi finally decided to stir things up a little bit, bringing Zeus back to replace FaZe-bound Ladislav "GuardiaN" Kovács. The return of the Ukrainian veteran was expected to revamp the team’s tactical approach, but they struggled to make an impact at their first LAN outings. As expected, s1mple took up the AWP a lot more frequently, posting AWP kills per round ratio in the region of 0.40 when his previous best had been 0.19 (PGL Major Krakow).

"I wanted this [to use the AWP more] from the start, but I understood that it was going to take a long time for me to become a tier one AWPer. When GuardiaN left, we had no other way to have an AWP player, everyone expected me to play with it."

At DreamHack Masters Malmö, Na`Vi went out in the quarter-finals, in which s1mple was the top performer in his team’s 2-1 defeat to NiP. The 20-year-old was once again the top rated player of his team by quite some distance, boasting an average 1.18 rating, his closest suitor being Ioann "Edward" Sukhariev (1.09). s1mple’s end-of-the-year heroics continued at ELEAGUE Premier, where Na`Vi finished third in a very tough group that included G2 and eventual champions FaZe. The young Ukrainian was, however, unimpressed by such opposition as he delivered 1+ ratings in all four games he played to finish the tournament with a 1.25 rating - 26% higher than the team's average.

s1mple put in a 1.35 rating in New York

ESL One New York was yet another event where s1mple desperately tried to keep his team afloat as he achieved a 1.35 rating (31% higher than Na`Vi’s average), the fourth best overall, a 0.95 KPR ratio and a 1.47 Impact despite one more weak run from his side, who were eliminated in the groups following defeats to Cloud9.

Unwilling to end the year empty-handed, s1mple had his best performance of 2017 at DreamHack Winter, which Natus Vincere attended following the roster changes that saw Denis "electronic" Sharipov replace Denis "seized" Kostin. s1mple was the highest-rated player of the tournament at 1.52 after putting in above-average ratings in all nine games he played, including in his team’s sole defeat, against Gambit (28-31) in the groups, in which he had a +30 KDD. The 20-year-old ended the event with a prodigious +117 KDD, six 1vsX situations won and a 1.76 Impact, topping the charts in ten different categories and also featuring in the top five in six others, earning an MVP medal as he inspired Natus Vincere to win their first and only title of 2017.

"I think that I performed like this because of my team. Without our teamplay, I could not have done it, of course. I knew that we needed to win this tournament, so I tried to play better every game and I understood that my sleep schedule was not good, so I fixed that."

s1mple’s high level of play was not reflected in the number of titles his team won, so we asked the Ukrainian if 2017 had been a bittersweet year for him and also quizzed him on his goals for 2018.

"I did not expect to lose so much in 2017. I always believed in our lineups, but I actually do not know what happened, I did not want this to happen to the team with GuardiaN, we just could not win together, and that was sad for me.

"Our goals are to become the No.1 team in the world. I am happy with the new line-up, I had never had such good chemistry on any team before. Everyone helps each other solving problems, both personal and in-game problems. My personal goals are to help my teammates to improve and to lift trophies together!"

Why is s1mple the 8th best player of 2017?

s1mple was statistically one of the most impressive players of 2017, ranking first in kills per round (0.84) and damage per round (87.4). He also had the biggest influence in a team, having averaged 112.4 damage in the rounds that Natus Vincere won - the highest of all players with at least 50 maps played over the year.

It is true that his impressive performance at DreamHack Open Winter - a medium-sized event, with only one top 10 team at the time in attendance - inflated his numbers a bit, but it cannot be overlooked as it was one of the best individual showings of the year.

s1mple expects 2018 to go much smoother for his team

Moreover, s1mple put up impressive numbers at big events, where he was ranked fourth overall with a 1.20 rating. He was also a big performer at Majors, where he averaged a 1.29 rating.

At first glance, it seems like he deserves an even higher place in the ranking, but it is important to point out that he was one of the best players at big events only twice - StarLadder i-League Season 3 and ESL One Cologne - as most of his impact came in group stage matches (1.24 rating). When it came to the playoffs, his average rating slightly dropped to 1.12 (11th best), which is what ultimately prevented him from placing higher and saw him land just the eighth spot.

Bold prediction

When asked to mention a player that he expects to break into the top 20 next year, s1mple mentioned his newest teammate, electronic, but he also had words of praise for one of mousesports’ players.

Russia Denis "electronic" Sharipov

"I would say electronic, of course. He is already playing for Na`Vi at such a young age and he has great potential. I would say that Miikka "suNny" Kemppi should be there as well."

Stay tuned to our Top 20 players of 2017 ranking powered by EGB.com and take a look at the Introduction article to learn more about how the players were picked.

Slovakia Ladislav 'GuardiaN' Kovács
Ladislav 'GuardiaN' Kovács
Age:
26
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.15
Maps played:
1058
KPR:
0.77
DPR:
0.62
APR:
0.11
Kazakhstan Dauren 'AdreN' Kystaubayev
Dauren 'AdreN' Kystaubayev
Age:
27
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.04
Maps played:
1026
KPR:
0.72
DPR:
0.68
APR:
0.16
Russia Denis 'seized' Kostin
Denis 'seized' Kostin
Age:
23
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
1.00
Maps played:
1017
KPR:
0.68
DPR:
0.67
APR:
0.16
Ukraine Kirill 'ANGE1' Karasiow
Kirill 'ANGE1' Karasiow
Age:
28
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.03
Maps played:
1278
KPR:
0.72
DPR:
0.71
APR:
0.17
United States Spencer 'Hiko' Martin
Spencer 'Hiko' Martin
Age:
27
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.06
Maps played:
658
KPR:
0.70
DPR:
0.62
APR:
0.14
Russia Denis 'electronic' Sharipov
Denis 'electronic' Sharipov
Age:
19
Rating 1.0:
1.09
Maps played:
432
KPR:
0.77
DPR:
0.69
APR:
0.14
Ukraine Andrey 'B1ad3' Gorodenskiy
Andrey 'B1ad3' Gorodenskiy
Age:
31
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.83
Maps played:
863
KPR:
0.58
DPR:
0.73
APR:
0.16
Ukraine Vladyslav 'arch' Svistov
Vladyslav 'arch' Svistov
Age:
21
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.95
Maps played:
459
KPR:
0.67
DPR:
0.71
APR:
0.12
Russia Mihail 'Dosia' Stolyarov
Mihail 'Dosia' Stolyarov
Age:
29
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.02
Maps played:
1117
KPR:
0.69
DPR:
0.66
APR:
0.15
Ukraine Ioann 'Edward' Sukhariev
Ioann 'Edward' Sukhariev
Age:
30
Rating 1.0:
1.03
Maps played:
1049
KPR:
0.71
DPR:
0.67
APR:
0.13
Ukraine Danylo 'Zeus' Teslenko
Danylo 'Zeus' Teslenko
Age:
30
Rating 1.0:
0.94
Maps played:
1063
KPR:
0.66
DPR:
0.69
APR:
0.17
Ukraine Ilya 'fix' Golovko
Ilya 'fix' Golovko
Age:
20
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
0.89
Maps played:
308
KPR:
0.62
DPR:
0.72
APR:
0.14
Finland Miikka 'suNny' Kemppi
Miikka 'suNny' Kemppi
Age:
23
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.09
Maps played:
730
KPR:
0.77
DPR:
0.69
APR:
0.15
Russia Egor 'flamie' Vasilyev
Egor 'flamie' Vasilyev
Age:
20
Rating 1.0:
1.06
Maps played:
860
KPR:
0.74
DPR:
0.68
APR:
0.14
Ukraine Aleksandr 's1mple' Kostyliev
Aleksandr 's1mple' Kostyliev
Age:
20
Rating 1.0:
1.20
Maps played:
693
KPR:
0.84
DPR:
0.69
APR:
0.11
#1
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Europe obvious 
Wow! S1mple is definitely a great player, well deserved.
2018-01-11 20:01
Stream sniper
2018-01-11 20:00
#65
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Sweden AlexJonesVEVO 
ALIENS LIKE "S1MPLE" ARE CONSUMING US #STOPALIENSBEFOREITSTOOLATE
2018-01-11 20:02
#76
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United Kingdom Fizzhaz 
2018-01-11 20:02
#84
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Moldova flymans 
Destroyed my favourite team...
2018-01-11 20:02
navi is s1mple destroyer not the other way around
2018-01-11 20:03
#118
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Moldova flymans 
Before he joined, they were constantly top2 on big events, where are they now?
2018-01-11 20:06
not s1mples fault
2018-01-11 20:07
#143
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Belgium KevinGatesYo 
#8 good enough for him, a guy who played only 62 maps on big events can't be on the top 5 of any rankings.
2018-01-11 20:09
#187
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Europe Pl4yed 
See but that makes HLTV rankings really weird. s1mple is top2 is almost all categories and yet he's outside the top5 for having no achievements. elige have much worse stats than s1mple (but still good) and the same amount of achievements and yet elige is no. 12 over two major mvp's and other much more successful players... HLTV plays ball with favoring stats and achievements it seems
2018-01-11 20:17
#234
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Belgium KevinGatesYo 
It's easier to have better stats when most of the other guys he's competing with played 2x more maps than him on big events. Had his team gone deep on almost every tournament they played, like FaZe and SK or even Astralis, his stats would never be as good. But that's what HLTV ranking is, deep analysis of stats and performance, s1mple does not deserve to be ranked above guys who won several big tournaments and performed well on most of them.
2018-01-11 20:27
#454
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Denmark MeToxi 
+1
2018-01-11 23:46
#483
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Brazil Angry_Venger 
+1 S1imple played some t2 (maybe t3) events... and rekt everyone (just like Niko or Cold would do... but these guys played like this (rekting) on T1 events)
2018-01-12 03:36
+1 Inflated stats. Want to see him playing against the big guys this year. SK, Astralis, Faze and i think even mousesport will him some trouble
2018-01-12 11:59
#207
s1mple | 
Slovakia Shwarq 
Rofl ur life must be so boring when u have to type bullshit about Na'Vi & s1mple in almost every thread...
2018-01-11 20:22
#241
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Belgium KevinGatesYo 
Bullshit? His stats are only that good because he didn't compete against the best consistently, only 2 deep runs on big events shows you that. Why am i not surprised you are s1mple fan? Do you really think this guy had a better year than cold, fer, niko, rain, kennys, fallen, device? If so you're deluded.
2018-01-11 20:29
#297
s1mple | 
Slovakia Shwarq 
Well, he had better year than everyone else thats not gonna be in top 8
2018-01-11 20:48
#515
RpK | 
Russia DCoult 
ho-ho-ho...
2018-01-12 10:56
It's definitely s1mple's fault. Him being 'toxic' just made everyone play shit, somehow. Listen to yourself, for fucks sake.
2018-01-11 20:13
Still in 2015 and 2016 apparently. All other teams around them got better and adapted with better tactics and set ups and have was just fucking around saying yeah but we have simple and guardian take that sk!!!
2018-01-11 20:24
Not in Cologne and losing to echo Fox. Is that the constantly top 2 u are talking about??
2018-01-11 20:36
#304
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Europe RRosenberg 
Well S1mple can’t do anything about Navi wanting him instead of Zeus and he is easily the best player in the team so stfu. And just cause they were good back then it doesn’t mean that they would be even a good month after they kicked Zeus and if Navi took in Ange1 or starix as IGL then they would of been way better
2018-01-11 20:52
#314
JW | 
United Kingdom Roarhaven 
Anyone who thinks s1mple destroyed Na’Vi is actually retarded
2018-01-11 20:56
#500
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Europe RRosenberg 
I Agree :D
2018-01-12 07:16
#505
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Sweden Bangs 
+1
2018-01-12 09:37
#73
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Poland Acravis 
OMG SIMPLE
2018-01-11 20:01
#37
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Netherlands DizMizzer 
Expected Simple Top8
2018-01-11 20:08
#50
fer | 
Portugal Jaxiie 
Top 5 they said OMEGALUL
2018-01-11 20:01
#473
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Ukraine [magda1ena] 
Top-5 sh1tple material
2018-01-12 01:56
#53
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Czech Republic popoa 
deserved
2018-01-11 20:01
He's the 3rd best player in the world, stuck in a shit team... He's the person in the shittiest situation out of all players
2018-01-12 02:34
#523
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Sweden werkaster 
Well, at least it's not like Niko in mouse. Navi could do something with Electronic. I don't understand why he's this low, though, even if his team is shit. He's clearly top 3 even if he took the year off from CS.
2018-01-12 12:23
#529
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Sweden larsbananas 
It seems a coincidence that every team he joins gets worse :) Great as he is individually, I don't think he's an equally good team player. Whilst he seems to have gotten better. Liquid though, did get a boost with him. But that's mainly due to their strong individual playstyle as of then. Albeit this is my subjective opinion.
2018-01-12 13:18
you are correct. He is not a top3 player all things considered. Maybe in terms of pure individual stats, but that aint everything.
2018-01-12 18:16
That's why Navi became worse after getting s1mple :^) Just because he makes flashy plays and has good stats doesnt mean he's good. He's never achieved anything of greatness and never will. If it's because he's toxic, a bad teamplayer or whatever it is, doesnt matter. But that shit count too, not only stats.
2018-01-12 18:15
well yea ez s1mple
2018-01-11 20:03
#132
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Moldova adypas 
he can be in top 5,but NaVi didnt won tournaments!Good Luck S1mple,you have talent and you will be in top 5 for sure next year
2018-01-11 20:08
Indeed.. #1 coldzera #2 fallen #3 fer #4 boltz #5 simple
2018-01-11 23:39
#2 Niko and Boltz already is #18
2018-01-12 02:44
Indeed. Maybe he has some weird attitudes, but deal with it, he is so fucking good.
2018-01-11 22:24
HE SHOULD BE THE FIRST
2018-01-12 14:41
Expected
2018-01-11 20:01
+1
2018-01-11 20:00
+1
2018-01-11 20:12
+6
2018-01-11 23:37
#3
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Iceland proks92 
EZ
2018-01-11 20:00
#179
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Ukraine c63 
ez csgod
2018-01-11 20:15
#310
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Australia KatVian 
Should of been higher.
2018-01-11 20:54
+1
2018-01-11 21:06
j
2018-01-11 20:00
TOP 5 they said
2018-01-11 20:00
Top 200 deserve
2018-01-11 20:49
#330
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Australia KatVian 
No simple deserves top 5. 1st in Kpr, 1st in dpr 1st in impact.
2018-01-11 21:09
Prove it or die
2018-01-11 21:23
#359
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Australia KatVian 
I just did can you read?
2018-01-11 21:27
I heard only 62 maps on big tourneys
2018-01-11 21:56
Stats inflated because he played tier2 trash teams. >>>At first glance, it seems like he deserves an even higher place in the ranking, but it is important to point out that he was one of the best players at big events only twice - StarLadder i-League Season 3 and ESL One Cologne - as most of his impact came in group stage matches (1.24 rating). When it came to the playoffs, his average rating slightly dropped to 1.12 (11th best), which is what ultimately prevented him from placing higher and saw him land just the eighth spot. cry is free.
2018-01-11 22:07
1st in impact 1st in kpr playing against tier 2/3 teams? lmao, following your retarded logic then BnTeT and Xantares should be top 1 and 2, also if s1mple is 1st in impact how come his team is always losing?
2018-01-12 05:44
he was playing against all teams, stop. stop this shit about t2 only cuz they win DH. it's still better than nothing.
2018-01-12 13:19
nearly there
2018-01-11 20:00
ok
2018-01-11 20:00
1
2018-01-11 20:00
LuL
2018-01-11 20:00
#392
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Bosnia and Herzegovina Stook 
GI udje samo da komentarise hahahahha
2018-01-11 22:00
#10
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Russia AxeL_ru 
ooh
2018-01-11 20:00
Nice job my dude s1mple! Hes probably the best individual skill player.
2018-01-11 20:04
And these are pretty much ranking the best individually skilled players, aren't they? Really makes you think...
2018-01-11 20:13
where does it say that this ranking is about the most individually skilled players u dimwitted moron?
2018-01-11 20:20
+1
2018-01-11 20:24
I mean, if you bothered to research just a bit instead of insulting me, you'd find the answer yourself. But fine, let this dimwitted moron show you. i.gyazo.com/d2429b6cc430d80fcf2e53e4ffb6.. Although we don't truly know how HLTV discern the players in their rankings, I think it's safe to assume from that screenshot and some of the players who were ranked, that they mostly focus on individual skill. And yes, I do think that they also take their accomplishments into account however it's clear that it doesn't have that big a impact on their rank as skill does, as shown with Elige and S1mple.
2018-01-11 20:27
"top players of 2017" "yearly performance" idk where it says anything about individual skill mr moron? in fact id argue that individual skill has no place in the rankings whatsoever bcs there is no statistical way of properly measuring it.
2018-01-11 20:35
Do you know what the word "performance" means, Mr. Moron? Oh and by the way, there is a statistical way of measuring it, just look down under S1mple's portrait, I trust you can find it.
2018-01-11 20:40
retarded discussion. stats dont have much to do with individual skill. there are for example a bunch of entryfraggers with insane mechanical skill, yet they have average stats. and even if there was a direct correlation between stats and individual skill, eg the most individually skilled player would have the highest rating, would u then want zywoo to be #1? moron
2018-01-11 20:45
Why are you assuming I'd think Zywoo would be at #1? As you probably know (actually probably don't know considering you brought him up), Zywoo plays against Tier 3 opponents, and that hardly constitutes as him being #1. And obviously there isn't a direct correlation between stats and individual skill, but there definitely is a correlation. Stats have a lot to do with individual skill, as well. Also does it hurt to show some respect?
2018-01-11 20:56
thanks for finally agreeing with me.
2018-01-11 21:08
Delusional 12 year old hurling insults, how precious. I'm done with you.
2018-01-11 21:18
"As you probably know (actually probably don't know considering you brought him up), Zywoo plays against Tier 3 opponents, and that hardly constitutes as him being #1." so ur agreeing with me that the list isnt about individual skill. thx for that.
2018-01-11 21:24
Zywoo playing against Tier 3 opponents doesn't signify that he's individually skilled. What if he was playing out of his field, which he is? It's like smurfing as a Global Elite in Silver and then declaring that you're the most skilled player ever because you get 50 frags every game. Yeah, it's a bit of an exaggeration but it proves my point none-the-less.
2018-01-11 21:28
are u retarded? thats what ive been saying from the beginning. and the same counts for s1mple. he plays less LANs than the top dogs, in general not always the same quality of LANs and often times he only plays groupstages. all these are factors which are obviously part of the ranking, not just "individual skill", which is what u said in the beginning.
2018-01-11 21:33
And did I say individual skill is the only factor? Please lie to my face and tell me you're not creating a straw man argument.
2018-01-11 21:38
"And these are pretty much ranking the best individually skilled players, aren't they? Really makes you think..." ok, ill grant u the "pretty much" lol
2018-01-11 21:42
"I think it's safe to assume from that screenshot and some of the players who were ranked, that they mostly focus on individual skill. And yes, I do think that they also take their accomplishments into account however it's clear that it doesn't have that big a impact on their rank as skill does, as shown with Elige and S1mple." I'll grant you the fact that you can't read. I think you're actually starting to affect my brain cell count, so goodbye and I hope we never meet again.
2018-01-11 21:45
Location Macedonia. Average IQ 90 go figure
2018-01-12 06:11
2018-01-12 15:19
You are being stupid. This is a list of the top 20 best players in terms of individual skill, for 2k17...
2018-01-11 21:41
no.
2018-01-11 21:42
Oh? So it's a list of the best performing teams of 2017 then?
2018-01-11 21:44
no.
2018-01-11 21:48
So then it must be a list of the best personalities of 2017 in CSGO?
2018-01-11 21:49
How many mvps simple got? In big events ? Any impact in big events? Evps?
2018-01-11 21:58
#261
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Spain _Kan0n 
They aren't Otherwise Niko would be above cold and s1mple would be above Niko. It's ranking best players but also achievements are a huge factor. "S1mple just made the cut, despite navi having weak runs into tournaments." >Implying achievements is a factor
2018-01-11 20:35
#184
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Azerbaijan pikachu$ 
+1
2018-01-11 20:17
#198
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Macedonia L3023R 
Maybe, maybe not because his carrying destroys team.
2018-01-11 20:20
It didn't destroy team liquid as they made it to the semi final and grand final of a major xD that doesn't make any sense
2018-01-11 20:26
#285
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Macedonia L3023R 
It didn't really, but it made the team toxic, carrying a team to a victory doesn't mean that it was great, Hiko said that the players didn't seem to like each other. s1mple is a really skilled player and I see him being top1/2/3 in the future, but people are overrating him this year, getting good stats against lower tier teams and getting not getting that much of them and not winning against top tier teams on LAN doesn't make you a top1 player.If he was that good, why did he make Na'Vi go from a Major Finalist, to a tier3 team...? See? s1mple is a player that made Na'Vi from a tier1 team to a tier3 team, but someone like NiKo made FaZe go from a tier2-3 team that barely won anything - to a tier1 team that is currently the second best team in the world... coldzera is a different story, although he is the #1 player, he didn't make it on his own, FalleN helped him, I am not having a biased opinion and saying that NiKo is better, I am just saying..... s1mple isn't known for carrying a team to victory, he is known for carrying teams but it ruins the team spirit....
2018-01-11 20:46
you're either jebaiting or retarded. probably both
2018-01-11 21:23
#423
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Macedonia L3023R 
Nothing, I am just not a toxic fuck that would have a biased opinion about a heavily overrated player.
2018-01-11 22:58
autism.
2018-01-11 23:25
#448
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Macedonia L3023R 
You beggin' for attention ya mate
2018-01-11 23:32
yep, autism.
2018-01-12 01:02
And I would argue... Give s1mple players like Fallen, Fer, Boltz to play with or Olof, Guardian, Rain. No true top team has just 1 monster on the roster. They have several. Whether they are in these rankings or not. Taco is hated on so much, but he plays his position on the team as good as anyone and that's why SK has been so successful. Everything thinks it is all skill. It is teamwork and some people sacrificing themselves for the team. And s1mple didn't ruin or hurt any team. Guardian was playing horribly since his injury and needed to go. Zeus won his major. Who knows if he is still preparing as hard and wants it as bad now that he achieved his goal. I personally don't pay much attention to these rankings because they are not based on best players. They are based on more than that. How far your team goes so you can earn EVP/MVP, success of the team. These aren't player rankings because as someone said above, there is no way to rank players because stats are meh. I truly think that anyone could do as well as Coldzera in SK. The system and IGL are making the players look awesome for this team. Just my opinion though I don't know why I replied to your comment, but oh well :)
2018-01-11 21:42
#413
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Switzerland noxer* 
"I truly think that anyone could do as well as Coldzera in SK." lol.
2018-01-11 22:30
#442
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Macedonia L3023R 
CS:GO is a team game, that is why most people sacrifice themselves for their team, now look at s1mple, he would never do that, he goes for frags. I don't like to talk about the Na'Vi situation, it was just backstabbing and then crying after that, literally - GuardiaN backstabbed Zeus and then he didn't like to play with s1mple, that is the reason why GuardiaN was unmotivated. It isn't about the best players cause it takes other things into consideration: MVPs, Tournament wins and etc.. If it was by good stats then I would guarantee that Xantares and s1mple are gonna be top1/2, which isn't how it should be.. If it took into consideration who had the most actual impact on the year: It would be NiKo, he was the one who shocked everyone.. If it was by MVPs, Winnings and consistency: It would be coldzera,,, I personally think that the ranking is how it should be, because it is the only way we can rank players accurately, after all, there is no way to rank players by their skill: Everybody has explosive days with performance, everybody has off days and those explosive and off days might actually be in Major Finals, so after all, this is our only way to rank players because we need to take the achievements into consideration, s1mple (And NiKo) still have so much potential and can be the future players dominating this game.. Now if FaZe brings up the money and brings in s1mple then I can finally quit playing CS:GO and start watching matches on a professional level of excitement.. *kills himself*
2018-01-11 23:21
#544
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Germany turbo_rolg 
s1mple made them last to be atleast a t2/3 team , he was the only 1 deliviering after guardian , seized and sometimes flamie started sucking dick....
2018-01-12 18:17
#546
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Macedonia L3023R 
Maybe but still, people are overrating him heavily because he is getting a lot of frags
2018-01-12 18:29
#547
 | 
Germany turbo_rolg 
no they dont cause many of these frags are impact frags and u need frags to win the game ....
2018-01-12 19:57
#548
 | 
Macedonia L3023R 
Yeah but they say that he is the best player, when he barely plays against tier1 teams on LAN and he doesn't win against tier1 teams on lan.
2018-01-12 20:00
#549
 | 
Germany turbo_rolg 
i would bet with u that the major will prove him as a great player even against t1 :)
2018-01-12 20:02
#550
 | 
Macedonia L3023R 
Let's see! :) I like s1mple but people are annoying me with these things, sure it is great if he does something good this major.
2018-01-12 20:04
#277
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Ukraine FasTIKXDDDD 
+1
2018-01-11 20:41
#337
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Brazil vicTHOR 
skill is not just aiming
2018-01-11 21:12
individual
2018-01-12 13:03
a
2018-01-11 20:00
#13
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Brazil assisz 
Deserved toxicmple
2018-01-11 20:03
Lol I think ur toxic :)
2018-01-11 20:04
#365
Zeus | 
Turkey dotu 
xd
2018-01-11 21:33
#14
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Latvia mosquito1881 
Nice
2018-01-11 20:00
1
2018-01-11 20:00
aaaa
2018-01-11 20:00
lul
2018-01-11 20:00
nhee
2018-01-11 20:00
lol
2018-01-11 20:00
Looool
2018-01-11 20:00
#21
NiKo | 
Europe ArroWoW 
deserved
2018-01-11 20:00
#323
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Finland YppiZ 
Guardian top 9 - 1.12 rating for 2017 S1mple top 8 - 1.24 rating for 2017, Are u mad? Cuz im not!
2018-01-11 21:03
Inflated stats by playing vs tier 2 trash teams
2018-01-11 22:09
#496
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Kazakhstan ginius33 
He does not bother at the expense of tier2 or tier 1, he fucks them all.
2018-01-12 06:18
U are trash
2018-01-12 09:34
Cry is free if you cant handle the truth
2018-01-12 11:37
The truth is u call tier 2 teams trash and u are not even dmg or something
2018-01-12 11:43
#22
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Slovakia BuKY 
nice
2018-01-11 20:00
#23
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Brazil Skimtlg 
mog
2018-01-11 20:00
8 LOOOOOOOOOOOOL
2018-01-11 20:00
omfg
2018-01-11 20:00
#26
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Denmark VeryCoolGuy 
ez4s1mple
2018-01-11 20:00
#27
 | 
Brazil disorderrr 
nice
2018-01-11 20:00
lool
2018-01-11 20:00
#29
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United States SladesterG 
Expected
2018-01-11 20:01
expected
2018-01-11 20:00
Nice nickname
2018-01-11 20:37
ty
2018-01-11 20:44
#32
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Brazil wescleyd 
deserved
2018-01-11 20:00
he must be at least top5 atm
2018-01-11 20:01
#144
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Russia TheWizzard 
+1
2018-01-11 20:09
#195
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Brazil Sukitay 
on the A++ league only cold, Niko and s1mple.
2018-01-11 20:20
#210
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Russia TheWizzard 
agree
2018-01-11 20:24
they're fucking S
2018-01-11 20:24
s1mple overrated
2018-01-11 22:10
#457
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Denmark oskarsports 
Everywhere best stats omegalul overrated
2018-01-12 00:03
#34
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Liberia GibMoneyPlox 
nt
2018-01-11 20:00
#35
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United Kingdom Jobelspice 
srsly
2018-01-11 20:00
No
2018-01-11 20:27
#320
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United Kingdom Jobelspice 
srsly?
2018-01-11 21:01
#368
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Russia drkne2S 
No
2018-01-11 21:38
#439
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Czech Republic slvr223 
Srsly?
2018-01-11 23:16
#533
 | 
Russia drkne2S 
No
2018-01-12 13:48
1st easy
2018-01-11 20:00
These guys are fucking hltv bots
2018-01-11 20:00
ez
2018-01-11 20:00
#40
s1mple | 
Russia dra9on 
WHAT?! NO, wtf, s1mple #2.
2018-01-11 20:06
#217
s1mple | 
Slovakia Shwarq 
No achievements no rank :(
2018-01-11 20:24
At first glance, it seems like he deserves an even higher place in the ranking, but it is important to point out that he was one of the best players at big events only twice - StarLadder i-League Season 3 and ESL One Cologne - as most of his impact came in group stage matches (1.24 rating). When it came to the playoffs, his average rating slightly dropped to 1.12 (11th best), which is what ultimately prevented him from placing higher and saw him land just the eighth spot.
2018-01-11 22:10
#387
rain | 
World Caine13 
comeback when navi actually win something decent
2018-01-11 21:50
#42
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Portugal ArturS 
OK
2018-01-11 20:00
#43
RUSH | 
United Kingdom Jim3110 
ok
2018-01-11 20:00
#44
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Belarus MrMeganeron 
rofl 1.24 #8
2018-01-11 20:03
No way
2018-01-11 20:00
#46
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Moldova OptimusBlyad 
S1111MPLE
2018-01-11 20:00
#47
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Brazil autonozera 
Fã s1mple kkk
2018-01-11 20:01
#48
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Denmark SunnyJim 
cool shit
2018-01-11 20:00
would be top 5 if navi actually played fking good and won tournaments
2018-01-11 20:00
if Na`Vi actually played fking good and won tournaments he would be top3 then.
2018-01-11 20:17
He would be #1.
2018-01-11 20:34
No, probably #0
2018-01-11 21:49
S1mple just ruins every team he's played in.
2018-01-12 21:08
At first glance, it seems like he deserves an even higher place in the ranking, but it is important to point out that he was one of the best players at big events only twice - StarLadder i-League Season 3 and ESL One Cologne - as most of his impact came in group stage matches (1.24 rating). When it came to the playoffs, his average rating slightly dropped to 1.12 (11th best), which is what ultimately prevented him from placing higher and saw him land just the eighth spot.
2018-01-11 22:11
If he supported his teammates and didn't fraghunt, he would be 20th, but Na'Vi would've won tournaments.
2018-01-11 22:38
WAT
2018-01-11 20:01
#52
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Russia d1vu 
Should be a little higher
2018-01-11 20:08
Should be lower
2018-01-11 20:01
#92
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Russia d1vu 
S1mple hater detected
2018-01-11 20:03
toxic kid that gets good kd vs t2-t3 teams no I don`t hate him just know that he should be lower that`s it
2018-01-11 20:06
what his toxicity has to do with his individual performance ? why did you even mention it if you are not his hater lol ?
2018-01-11 20:22
There is big difference between being a hater and just not don`t like player for certain reasons, he is toxic af, he fucked up so many teams and is still doing it if u watch how navi r playing u will see its 4+1 and also I don`t like the fact that he was cheating
2018-01-11 20:24
#230
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Croatia VeryLazyGuy 
So you would lower his rank due to his bad behavior in the past? Interesting logic. Have a lazy day! -VeryLazyGuy
2018-01-11 20:30
didnt say that this is the reason for lowering him down, it is only one of the reasons why I don`t like him, I would lower him down because he didnt win anything except DH vs mouse in final without any t1 teams, and 2 3rd places, having good KD vs t2-t3 teams in any type of event doesn't mean that he should be so high
2018-01-11 20:33
- he is not toxic af, at least not anymore which is proven by his present teammates - which teams he fucked up ? with liquid he had 2 great runs at the major (2nd and 3rd places) navi have never been a top 1 team, they always were around top3 with MOTIVATED guardian playing out of his mind and flamie doing his job. Few past months it was literally s1mple vs 9 all the time with 4 other playing like they have no arms and it wasn't s1mple's fault cheating ? yeah, this is a serious reason
2018-01-11 20:32
I`ll not gonna say anything else about him being toxic to you but if we talk about navi results before simple they were top 2 and losing most of the time in finals. after he joined everything fucked up for them, he is in Na`Vi for about 1.5 year and they won 2 tournaments since then... not close to be in top 5 tbh
2018-01-11 20:36
#229
s1mple | 
Slovakia Shwarq 
Fucked up many teams ? XD name 1 u fucking idiot and how do you know that he is toxic? Are u on their ts servers or what,..
2018-01-11 20:26
flipsid3, liquid, HR, only thing I will say read interview with makreloff after simple left f3, and how do I know he is toxic? there are lot of POV`s with TS on youtube and also I remember how he just left from official game when they were losing...
2018-01-11 20:29
#276
s1mple | 
Slovakia Shwarq 
In flipside he beat Nip in a bo3 which was one of the biggest upsets against nip ever. Liquid? NA never been in finals of a major he took them to the finals. Are u living in a 2016? He is not toxic anymore if you saw one of his streams... Even there is a series on youtube The new s1mple where he stopped being toxic... So stop living in the past bro and dont trashtalk someone who is one of the best..
2018-01-11 20:40
one of the best vs t2-t3 :))))
2018-01-11 20:41
#279
s1mple | 
Slovakia Shwarq 
Wow, kid spotted
2018-01-11 20:42
22 y/o kid? ok np but he gets all good kd in t2 tournaments like DH or he loses in group stage in t1 tournaments with hitting 30-10 vs t2 team and 25-20 2 games vs t1 teams
2018-01-11 20:43
#292
s1mple | 
Slovakia Shwarq 
U act like a kid.. If you go search for some matches with t1 teams like SK and FaZe you will see that hes top or second fragging everytime.. Only bad rating he has is against Astralis
2018-01-11 20:46
how often does he plays vs them? once in few months? and t2-t3 teams? oh yes he plays them all the time
2018-01-11 21:30
#345
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New Zealand Tap2r 
Are you dumb. He had the best stats in esl proleague and everybody verses the same teams. /close
2018-01-11 21:15
but where does 80% of his stats is coming from
2018-01-11 21:31
Should be lower
2018-01-11 20:03
#114
 | 
Russia d1vu 
imo still better than guardian at this year
2018-01-11 20:05
>better > more money
2018-01-11 20:13
#220
 | 
Russia TheWizzard 
kick Taz
2018-01-11 20:24
No fucking way
2018-01-11 20:07
#54
fnx | 
Portugal lovessd 
that means xantares top 7
2018-01-11 20:01
No xantares, no tabseN :( feel with u
2018-01-12 09:37
Fuck yes s1mple is a fucking beast
2018-01-11 20:01
SKK
2018-01-11 20:01
#57
 | 
World ajinkya_xD 
Rain xantress fallen toxic zera top 4
2018-01-11 20:01
expected
2018-01-11 20:01
#59
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Malaysia boItz 
first <3
2018-01-11 20:01
#60
 | 
Europe treyhard 
#8????????????????????????????????????????
2018-01-11 20:01
#61
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France Roi_Arachnide 
stupid ... team achievements should have no repercussion in top PLAYER rankings, s1mple is a top 5 player in the world
2018-01-11 20:01
i agree xantares top 1
2018-01-11 20:04
That is a stupid argument ... Xantares doesn't play at big events, against top teams in the world, he is irrelevant in the context of the pro scene ... Even if he had a 14,23 rating or whatever it wouldn't matter
2018-01-11 20:07
#158
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Brazil supervillain 
s1mple didnt play many big events and definitely didn't get his rating playing against top tier opposition cus navi sucked in 2017
2018-01-11 20:12
#307
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India bozzmob 
+1
2018-01-11 20:53
>team achievement should have no repercussion in top players >Xantares not top 1 because he doesn't play big events Well of course he doesn't because he needs the whole team to actually qualify to events. Team achievements do matter for the top players in some aspects. For example, s1mple shouldn't be left out of top 20 players because his team doesn't win tournaments, as well as TACO shouldn't be in top 20 players because SK won 11 tournaments.
2018-01-11 20:33
How will you hermetically seal your perfomance for your team's? Its impossible. You influence your team and your team influences you.
2018-01-11 20:13
2018-01-11 20:15
But he said ''stupid ... team achievements should have no repercussion in top PLAYER rankings...''
2018-01-11 20:21
Eventho, ...as most of his impact came in group stage matches (1.24 rating). When it came to the playoffs, his average rating slightly dropped to 1.12 (11th best)... Just a regular player with a nice spot in the rank.
2018-01-11 20:25
hat means zywoo should be #1? what the fuck did u smoke u absolute cretin?
2018-01-11 20:22
Why are all hltv members so thick ??? Can't you understand that no one gives a f*** about zywoo and xantares and other tier 2/3 players ! Of course they are not going to be considered for top 20 when they haven't played in big tournaments and against top teams. What my argument is, and I'm going crazy thinking that I have to explain that to all thoses thick Mongolians on hltv is that When judging TOP players from the tier one scene, the ONLY deciding factor to rank two players from tier one teams should be their skill and not the achievements of said team ! It's like if in NA basketball I said that the MVP of the league didn't have to always be from one of the finalists teams you replied "WHAT ABOUT XX WHO PLAYS IN A UNIVERSITY TEAM?" They don't play in the same category you doofus !
2018-01-12 00:18
ur arbitrarily making up ur own rules, completely free of any kind of consistency. how about this then: compare say niko and s1mple. both have played tier1 LANs, but niko has played in a lot more of them. moreover, niko has played in a ton of finals and deep in tournaments whereas s1mple played group stages mostly and the odd quarter. niko has a load more maps than s1mple bcs of that and also the quality of opposition is different bcs niko has played against more other teams that made it deep in tournaments whereas s1mple has played half his maps against scrub teams that also went out in the groupstages. does that count for nothing? do u still wanna only consider ratings even tho there are tons more factors to consider?
2018-01-12 00:24
#62
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United States peps1mouz 
nice
2018-01-11 20:01
#63
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United Kingdom v0XH1 
HAHAHAHHA NOT TOP5 LMAO
2018-01-11 20:01
#64
Russia $CAV 
Ez for PIMPLE
2018-01-11 20:01
a
2018-01-11 20:01
#67
 | 
United States VerySmartGuy 
expected
2018-01-11 20:01
#68
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Sweden kaIix 
he's top 5 wtf..
2018-01-11 20:01
1cold 2niko 3fer 4rain 5fallen
2018-01-11 20:53
#318
 | 
Sweden kaIix 
fer = eco fragger
2018-01-11 20:59
#498
 | 
Georgia bazuking 
fer is best entry fragger tbh and u dont understand this game pls stfu cuz u are mad fnatic dont doing any shit, lekr0 is good entry tho
2018-01-12 06:56
loool
2018-01-11 20:01
#70
 | 
United Kingdom Fizzhaz 
s1mply the 8th
2018-01-11 20:01
#71
 | 
Brazil HeppyCrank 
wtf
2018-01-11 20:01
#72
ScreaM | 
Brazil WWWWWWW 
xd
2018-01-11 20:01
Deserved
2018-01-11 20:01
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
2018-01-11 20:01
should have been top3
2018-01-11 20:01
EXPECTED very good job hltv
2018-01-11 20:01
Only 8? Underrated as fuck. Hopefully now Na'Vi will be a great team and s1mple will finally get his deserved #1 rank this year.
2018-01-11 20:01
#122
 | 
Brazil Juneco 
Underrated?: hahaha
2018-01-11 20:06
yes
2018-01-11 20:11
Underrated if you consider HLTV's shitty inconsistent standards
2018-01-11 20:15
I agree with this statement which is 100% true. Respectfully, Proud Faze Fan since 1999,
2018-01-11 20:13
#412
 | 
Europe Conq 
overrated
2018-01-11 22:29
+1
2018-01-12 01:32
noooo he must be on 4
2018-01-11 20:01
#82
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Portugal Caseir0 
Is good. But not that good.
2018-01-11 20:01
#83
s1mple | 
Ukraine Lev1 
if he was in team like FaZe, he would be top3, just as Guardian managed to get in top10 from nowhere.
2018-01-11 20:02
#208
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Chile satch 
true
2018-01-11 20:23
#85
swag | 
Turkey Jagernai 
Well, he deserved
2018-01-11 20:02
#86
NiKo | 
India Sishir 
HLTV takes tournament wins a bit too seriously. Should be higher up.
2018-01-11 20:02
DESERVED, toxiple
2018-01-11 20:02
nice joke wtf
2018-01-11 20:02
#89
 | 
Romania silksz12 
deserved
2018-01-11 20:02
#91
 | 
Turkey beniskam 
ok
2018-01-11 20:02
#94
rain | 
Norway Kimmiix 
Expected
2018-01-11 20:03
#95
 | 
Turkey fotbox210901 
Expected
2018-01-11 20:03
Good enough for him,
2018-01-11 20:03
kennyS > s1mple confirmed
2018-01-11 20:03
holy shit...only 8? o_O
2018-01-11 20:03
If s1mple is #8 than my prediction will most likely be true: 1. Cold 2. Fallen 3. Fer 4. NiKo 5. Rain 6. Device 7. KennyS
2018-01-11 20:03
LOL with putting FalleN #2, there is a 0% chance of your prediction being true lmfao
2018-01-11 20:06
#130
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Brazil Juneco 
you right Fallen top 1 ofc
2018-01-11 20:08
+1 Device 7th, Fallen 6th
2018-01-11 20:08
No reason? Well it will be perfectly understandable if Fallen is top 2. - One of the best AWPers if not the best AWPer in the world - Excellent rating - Consistent player and the stat that in my opinion will be the decisive one if he manages to make it to #2 - On top of being an amazing AWPer always managing to deliver under pressure he's also the IGL of the best team in the world, leading his team to 8 titles in 2017 without the IGL role affecting his ability to frag whatsoever. You people need to leave to hate aside and start looking at it from a neutral point of view. I 100% assure you that if Fallen wasn't Brazilian people wouldn't be hating on me because I think he can be #2 again.
2018-01-11 20:12
easy to forget now, but he was absolute dogshit the first half of the year
2018-01-11 20:15
Dude, I have NOTHING against brazilians, but saying FalleN is #2 is completely ridiculous, and seeing your thought process, I can now understand why. Being an IGL or the awper of a team doesn't improve your score. It depends on what results you put out there. Yes he is consistent, yes he has a very good rating, and yes, he is a great awper. However: being an awper doesn't increase your rating compared to non-awpers NiKo is higher rated than him (as well as device, rain, fer, etc) NiKo is more consistent than him. Perhaps you are forgetting the THREE events where FalleN ended below 1.00 rating? the three events where they would go out in GROUPS.
2018-01-11 20:15
Well apparently rating alone isn't that important at this point anymore. Look at s1mple's rating, it's only less than Cold's and he is 'only' 8th in the ranking... And if I remember well FaZe also had a few group exits earlier this year... Including the major.
2018-01-11 20:29
because his team hasn't won anything at all except for a tier 2 event. all the remianing players left have won 3 or more events this year...
2018-01-11 20:30
Well if team achievements count this much than you're contradicting yourself... No other team has won as many titles as SK and if being the IGL of the most successful team of the year counts for nothing than I don't know what counts.
2018-01-11 20:32
I actually am not contradicting myself at all. What I am saying is that Team Achievements do affect it slightly. S1mple was only slightly ahead of players like KennyS, dev1ce, rain and falleN. The difference is, he won less evps and less titles by a significant amount. KennyS and Dev1ce won 3 titles and dev1ce also placed top 3 in nearly every tournament he participated in. Btw you're really overrating SK if you think they won 8 Tier 1 titles. Their tier 1 titles include: EPL S6 Finals EPICENTER ECS S3 ESL Cologne IEM Sydney Blast Pro series You also have to factor in the fact that FalleN went out in groups 3 times due to HIS poor performance. Dev1ce went out in groups twice, and in one of the tournaments, he did well in, while only in the other tournament did he get a below 1.00 rating. This point that I bring up means that you can't just factor in team wins, you also have to factor in placement because a team that placed 3rd for every single tournament, won 0 would be ranked higher than a team that placed 1st in 3 tourneys but came 8th in the rest (assuming there were a lot of tourneys). When you factor all this in, FalleN has NO chance of being #2. His best chance is getting #5 right now, but he will not get any higher than that. Coldzera, fer, rain and NiKo have had FAR more impressive results than FalleN during the entire YEAR. Likely, the rankings will be this: 1. Coldzera 2. NiKo 3. fer 4. Rain 5. FalleN 6. Dev1ce 7. KennyS
2018-01-11 22:16
Kennys won 3 events ?
2018-01-11 22:45
WESG Finals (very first event of 2017) ESL Pro League Season 5 and Dreamhack Masters Malmo
2018-01-11 22:49
presumably only counting tier 1, because he has 4 mvp’s iirc; I don’t think he’ll be below fallen who did nothing for the first 4-6 months and dev1ce who’s been absent for the last 4 months of the year.
2018-01-11 23:10
maybe, so you think dev1ce will be #7 then?
2018-01-11 23:11
yea
2018-01-11 23:20
Dude, fallen was the IGL of the best team of the wear, and won 6 t1 events, one MVP. Kennys cant be above him.
2018-01-12 01:21
Irrelevant if he got carried. He had a rating below 1 for half of 2017... He cannot and should not be a top 5 individual player of the year full stop.
2018-01-12 07:44
Agreed. But his above kenny, as i stated!
2018-01-12 21:40
He won't be #2, bookmark this. Also AWPing whilst being an IGL isn't as hard as you think, nor is it impressive.
2018-01-11 20:16
Isn't hard? hahahha easier said than done my friend
2018-01-11 20:27
No, in fact I very much doubt it. Again, bookmark this and watch Fallen not get 2nd place.
2018-01-11 20:28
I'm not expecting Fallen to be 2nd honestly. I know that there's a 95% chance that he won't be 2nd. I just thought it would be fair , considering his consistency and the fact that he's the best IGL in the world atm, that's it. But I don't have my hopes yoo high for that, honestly.
2018-01-11 20:31
Don't be doubtful, I think we all know how retarded HLTV rankings can be sometimes
2018-01-11 20:39
#131
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Finland iPaZ 
imo it will be cold fer niko fallen rain device kenny
2018-01-11 20:08
expected from brazil fangay
2018-01-11 20:09
#156 Please be smart, I'm not a fangay.
2018-01-11 20:13
1. coldzera 2. NiKo 3. fer 4. rain 5. FalleN 6. kennyS 7. device
2018-01-11 20:15
#103
device | 
Bulgaria sowhee 
deserved!
2018-01-11 20:04
What a rating!
2018-01-11 20:04
#105
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Australia bloodsh0t 
Deserves a higher rank imo.. 3/4/5.. and better team... Has more than #1 in the stats..
2018-01-11 20:04
He played half of total matches that Astralis, SK and Faze players did this season, and not always vs tier 1 teams. He's a potential number 1 player, but #8 is good enough for him his year;
2018-01-11 20:16
Gotta love that guy!
2018-01-11 20:04
Simple's numbers SO much better than Guardian's. Guardian so clearly overrated this year. Should be 18.
2018-01-11 20:04
#110
Happy | 
Sweden huggan 
device better than s1mple???? lol
2018-01-11 20:04
STILL THE BEST PLAYER ! n1
2018-01-11 20:04
#112
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Brazil icelake 
he won so many tournaments in 2017 he had so fucking deep and long run in tier1 tournaments ohhhh wait TOP20 Snax had much better year than him
2018-01-11 20:05
#113
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Germany ropzGOD 
Lul so ass kappa
2018-01-11 20:05
#115
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Brazil piccirilli 
Fallen > s1mple
2018-01-11 20:06
1-cold 2-FalleN 3-NiKO
2018-01-11 20:06
#244
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Brazil Dynamo_ 
1-cold 2-niko 3-fer 4-rain 5-fallen
2018-01-11 20:30
Flair checks out.
2018-01-11 20:34
Nice try
2018-01-17 20:34
deserves number 6
2018-01-11 20:06
#120
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Bulgaria BlindBG11 
lol 8th place
2018-01-11 20:06
FFFFFFFFUCK OFF HLTV
2018-01-11 20:06
#124
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Turkey yasinavsar 
Underrated
2018-01-11 20:07
wtf
2018-01-11 20:07
deserved
2018-01-11 20:07
#133
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Brazil Collee 
Expected. People thought he was going to be #3 lmao. Remember kennyS was #6 in 2014
2018-01-11 20:08
and likewise s1mple should be 6th ahead of Fallen and Dev1ce
2018-01-11 20:09
#148
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Brazil Collee 
Not at all. kennyS 2014 >>> s1mple 2017
2018-01-11 20:10
Likewise every top 10 player in 2014 > 2017
2018-01-11 20:12
#186
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Brazil Collee 
I only meant kennyS had less people ahead of him. He was by far the best AWPer of the year, and he had the best year any CS:GO AWPer ever had
2018-01-11 20:17
I understand that. I’m saying Kenny > forest/shox despite his bad team in 2014 in the same way s1mple > fallen/dev1ce despite his bad team in 2017
2018-01-11 20:24
No.
2018-01-11 21:05
#347
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Brazil Collee 
Both shox and f0rest had a lot achievements with their teams, much more than kennyS. Same applies for FalleN and device against s1mple. Difference is that kenny's individual performance made up for the lack of achievements and he deserved to finish above these two. He had more big performances against top tier teams than s1mple this year. It's not like s1mple is so much better than FalleN or device individually, while kennyS was clearly much better than any AWP player of 2014. So it's not "in the same way"
2018-01-11 21:18
you’re really not getting me. forest shox fallen dev1ce had more team achievements sure... forest/shox individually in 2014 >>>>>>>> fallen/dev1ce in 2017 kenny individually in 2014 >>>> s1mple individually in 2017. kenny’s level above shox and forest despite their titles is equivalent to s1mple’s level above fallen and dev1ce despite their titles. the only difference is that 2014 on a whole was a better CS year. and yes s1mple is that much better than fallen and dev1ce individually, are you kidding lol add to that, fallen had a rating below 1 for the first half of the year, and device has been medically sidelined for 3-4 months.
2018-01-11 23:15
#455
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Brazil Collee 
"and yes s1mple is that much better than fallen and dev1ce individually" hahahahahah I'm done. Ofc I'm getting you. A guy who never even played for a tier 1 team. FalleN and device are always performing against the best(including each other) with the highest possible stakes. S1mple is destroying tier 2~4 teams, sometimes he shines against tier 1 teams but FalleN and device do it A LOT more. They'd do the same if they were on s1mple's skin, as well as kennyS. You just can't compare a guy who's not proving himself in the tier 1 scene to FalleN and device. He never once did, maybe for like 2 months on Liquid. He even said himself, check it for yourself youtube.com/watch?v=cpWq6KRAZUk
2018-01-12 00:16
#135
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Panama Bill_Bait 
What a shitty rating
2018-01-11 20:08
lol bullshit
2018-01-11 20:09
#138
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Brazil Juneco 
overrated asf, ma boy elige so much better, shame hltv
2018-01-11 20:09
the kind of guy who led his team to relegation matches. he isn't better than #21 maximum.
2018-01-11 20:09
#140
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New Zealand JK_77 
wut
2018-01-11 20:09
should be lower
2018-01-11 20:09
#145
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France Yoyoona00 
Amazing stats
2018-01-11 20:10
#146
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Brazil Orb1tt 
Should be top 5
2018-01-11 20:10
worst top10 player. like happy, getting good rating but fucking his team. #s1mpleDestroyedNavi
2018-01-11 20:10
#149
zet | 
North America RosT- 
lol should be top5
2018-01-11 20:11
#160
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Moldova slittt 
i'm agree with you
2018-01-11 20:12
#151
fnx | 
United States chaseRRR 
Lol toxic player means shit team
2018-01-11 20:11
You are the best man you are the beastttt
2018-01-11 20:12
Best T side rating, wow, and other notable stats are crazy.
2018-01-11 20:12
ROFLOTOP
2018-01-11 20:12
#159
fer | 
Brazil cadik 
u n d e s e r v e d his real rank is about top30 in 2017
2018-01-11 20:12
#306
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Belgium n1ckst4r2002 
nt, autism is real
2018-01-11 20:52
#161
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CIS sergioff 
Well deserved, good player
2018-01-11 20:13
#168
EspiranTo | 
Estonia pj4 
Next year you will be first
2018-01-11 20:13
#169
fnx | 
Iceland cy_ro 
wtf hltv s1mple top 5
2018-01-11 20:14
#170
fer | 
Brazil GodMac 
Ok
2018-01-11 20:14
#171
sodaH | 
World PRQN 
kennyS better than s1mple this year xDDDDDDD nt hltv xDd
2018-01-11 20:14
#172
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Ukraine extezy10 
Gj Sanya. Next year Top 1!
2018-01-11 20:14
#173
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Brazil Hozuky 
S1mple is a monster
2018-01-11 20:14
Best player in the world atm, unlucky but I'm sure he'll get rated higher when he gets a better team. WHAT A BEAST!
2018-01-11 20:16
Probably has the best aim all weapons considered , and also amazing reaction time. Too bad he often is looking for the HL play too much ..
2018-01-11 20:26
#181
Jonti | 
Switzerland veach 
SORRY????????????
2018-01-11 20:16
what?
2018-01-11 20:17
#189
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Slovakia kokotko1g 
Should be lower, but he has a shit team, so this is fine I guess
2018-01-11 20:17
+FAZE_S1MPLE -FAZE_KArrigan
2018-01-11 20:17
Faze wouldn't be even top 5.
2018-01-11 20:20
He's good, but the rank shows he's not that good. Expected.
2018-01-11 20:18
underrated.
2018-01-11 20:18
Next year top 1. Just needed to win more tournaments but hard luck. GL HF S1mple
2018-01-11 20:20
#194
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United States Err0h 
Okay.
2018-01-11 20:19
#196
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Canada WERZTY 
overrated, not better than GuardiaN or Elige and etc. I think he should have #13 place
2018-01-11 20:20
#308
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Belgium n1ckst4r2002 
Fatian most overrated onliner ever
2018-01-11 20:53
Cry
2018-01-11 21:07
#332
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Belgium n1ckst4r2002 
no need hes lower than s1Mple in one of the best teams, shows hes garbage
2018-01-11 21:09
C r y r y
2018-01-11 21:11
#338
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Belgium n1ckst4r2002 
Mimimi bananaboi go play in the jungle UGA UGA
2018-01-11 21:12
Reported :)
2018-01-11 21:12
#340
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Belgium n1ckst4r2002 
Cryisfree Tarzan UGA UGA
2018-01-11 21:12
Cry
2018-01-11 21:13
#342
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Belgium n1ckst4r2002 
UGA UGA dance monkey uh ah ah ah
2018-01-11 21:13
Reported :)
2018-01-11 21:14
#201
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Poland crz31 
underrated, should be minimum top3
2018-01-11 20:21
So we'll have: 7- KennyS 6- Device 5- Fallen 4- Fer 3- Rain 2- Niko 1- Cold Just save this.
2018-01-11 20:22
7 device 6 kenny 5 fallen 4 rain 3 fer 2 niko 1 cold
2018-01-11 20:24
Don't you think Device had a better year than Kenny? And Rain will be in #3. He won MVP in a tier 1 event. Besides his role is very close to Fer's, but he had better performances when SK was through that bad moment prior to Boltz's signing.
2018-01-11 20:32
rain was good just in the end of the year and fer played well all the year. kenny played better than device imo, won more titles and had more mvps...
2018-01-11 20:35
you were right bruh
2018-01-15 17:33
+1
2018-01-12 03:01
#205
paz | 
Turkey zsonur 
7-kennys expected
2018-01-11 20:23
it will be device 7
2018-01-11 20:25
wtf is wrong with this people, kennys cant be in this list...
2018-01-12 09:48
simple should not be onthe list. Good rating playing group stages and online games? what a joke. hobbit, adren and many others deserved be in this position.
2018-01-11 20:23
#211
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Brazil Sukitay 
Tbh, hated him at the start, but he has grown, and so am i. He became a mature player, and on the same caliber as Cold and Niko, he's so passionate about the game, the best year of his career is yet to come. GJ and GL my man.
2018-01-11 20:24
#212
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Brazil marcovsk 
He needs a better team to shine. Like niko. Deserved
2018-01-11 20:24
Na'Vi have a sick lineup, I think they'll rise to be a top 5 team in 2018.
2018-01-11 21:56
#215
FalleN | 
Austria Arezcs 
wow actually surprised wtf, should have been atleast top5. he had almost the best stats in every important category for a star player, just because his big event playoff rating is "only" 1.12 shouldn't drop him off that much! I understand that the top8 are stacked af but how was Fallen better than S1mple this year who had to carry all year long while Fallen played with two top4 players one of those the GOAT.
2018-01-11 20:24
#232
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Brazil Sukitay 
Achievements have an important role my friend :/
2018-01-11 20:26
#223
Zeus | 
Israel JezuSw0w 
Amazing player hope he manages to lead navi to better results this year
2018-01-11 20:25
#225
NiKo | 
Portugal kyzzj 
finally the fuckin posts about simple rank ends |
2018-01-11 20:25
#315
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India bozzmob 
Ha ha. True that.
2018-01-11 20:57
thank mr pimple
2018-01-11 20:26
lol hltv....
2018-01-11 20:26
my guess was #7, k close
2018-01-11 20:29
#239
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Brazil imNTX 
So, KennyS will be in a higher rank than s1mple? Hltv is full of bs. S1mple deserves better
2018-01-11 20:28
kennybot cant be in this list, it willl be a massive fail if it happens
2018-01-12 09:48
#545
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Brazil imNTX 
It actually became true, hltv such a joke
2018-01-12 18:18
holy shit. can't see why he would be on top 7 lmao, he shouldn't even be in top 20. what a garbage ranking... he barely won anything this year, he didn't play that impressive and his team sucks dick.
2018-01-11 20:29
he said that himself pretty much on twitter not long ago
2018-01-11 20:34
loled
2018-01-11 21:02
last top 7 SK xD
2018-01-11 20:30
VERY GOOD x)
2018-01-11 20:32
tox1mple will never be top5 because of his shitty attitude, what a waste
2018-01-11 20:34
He was 4th in 2016 xD
2018-01-11 20:45
ever again is what I mean, he could be top1
2018-01-11 20:51
Expected cuz low team.
2018-01-11 20:35
If NaVi actually won shit, he would be #1.
2018-01-11 20:35
#269
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Portugal RKO23 
as far as i know , they won 2 lans , this year.
2018-01-11 20:37
Yes, that's why he's #8. If NaVi won at least half of what SK/FaZe won and at least 1 Major, he would be #1.
2018-01-11 20:39
#273
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Portugal RKO23 
his performance this year was the best from a lot... so please , stfu , ty.
2018-01-11 20:40
#265
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United States debobFL 
Undeserved, above average player on t3 team. Cry is free Ukraine
2018-01-11 20:36
guess all na teams are tier 5 then
2018-01-11 20:45
na cs lul
2018-01-11 20:47
bad bait
2018-01-11 20:59
#475
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United States debobFL 
I can try
2018-01-12 02:11
why u b8 us Donald?
2018-01-11 22:02
I can already feel thorin exploding because of anger
2018-01-11 20:36
#312
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India bozzmob 
Lol. Why? Thooorin likes s1mple?
2018-01-11 20:55
Yes. I am 100% sure his angry because he is not high enough in hltv ranking, and no one gives a fuck about his own ranking.
2018-01-11 20:58
#324
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India bozzmob 
Ha ha. I think thooorin will create a video explaining 1000 weird facts why simple should've been top1.
2018-01-11 21:03
Device is his top 1 boyfried. But s1mple is his #2
2018-01-11 21:08
#487
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India bozzmob 
Lol. It was olof 2yrs back, now device. Good choices thooorinnnn
2018-01-12 04:37
#267
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Portugal RKO23 
"overrated" ahahahaha , you guys are fucking hilarious.
2018-01-11 20:37
#270
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Portugal superkuzza 
expected
2018-01-11 20:37
played much better this year but ended up lower because team was shit
2018-01-11 20:40
taking tier 2 and 3 events into account, wtf hltv
2018-01-11 20:43
#282
liTTle | 
CIS Dowa) 
esl banned cheater
2018-01-11 20:44
GG S1mple congratulations
2018-01-11 20:44
S1mple is a god no discussion
2018-01-11 20:44
ez 4 #CSGOD
2018-01-11 20:45
The best fragger in the world right now alongside NiKo. If you don't like s1mple as a player, maybe you should find another esport.
2018-01-11 20:46
I think he deserves a better Team :/
2018-01-11 20:47
1.godzera 2.niko 3.fer 4.device 5.rain 6.kennyS 7.fallen 8.forest?
2018-01-11 20:48
#300
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Czech Republic matymon 
s1mple is #8 but I agree with the rest
2018-01-11 20:50
#301
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United States BLaCkKobRa 
lol are u illusinating?... in what world f0rest is in top 20 this year? in what world device and fer are better than rain?
2018-01-11 20:51
Learn to spell mate, auto correct won't always save you.
2018-01-12 14:09
forest top35 at best overrated af
2018-01-11 20:52
Forest is bae don't disrespect, nigga had the sexiest beard eu
2018-01-12 14:07
Device number 4?? Hahahhaahha
2018-01-11 21:45
#296
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Belgium n1ckst4r2002 
Should be top 3 or 4.... noob device absent for 3 months, in top team still can't win anything after summer .... and s1mple stuck in hell and performs 10X better
2018-01-11 20:48
zeus where??
2018-01-11 20:49
s1mple is IMO top3, amazing skill and carring NaVi every tournament ;/
2018-01-11 20:53
P1MPLE
2018-01-11 20:55
He would be rank 1 if he had a better team,thats for sure and thats why this ranking isnt really acurate if you want to know who are the very best players
2018-01-11 20:58
But he played for different teams and never really won anything.
2018-01-11 21:41
top2 and top3 of Major is enough when you just entered the new team, no?
2018-01-11 22:51
Good enough to be top8
2018-01-12 11:47
Dude TACO is one of the most achieved players,it doesnt mean he is a top tier individual
2018-01-12 16:30
ez simple
2018-01-11 21:02
#329
NEO | 
Russia xavikz 
s1mple - top player today. no one player cant play so stable on great level every game.
2018-01-11 21:08
#333
fer | 
Brazil gabyzinhu 
Is s1mple one of the best 20 csgo players ? Answer: Yes Should he be in top20 HLTV players for 2017 according to the HLTV Criteria ? Answer: No.
2018-01-11 21:10
s1mple top 5 ez. But Na'Vi is shit! 1. cold 2. niko 3. fallen 4. fer 5. s1mple 6. rain
2018-01-11 21:11
#335
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Brazil vicTHOR 
expected well deserved
2018-01-11 21:10
#344
s1 | 
Armenia gr1nch 
not bad
2018-01-11 21:15
#346
sodaH | 
Germany PM_CS 
expected
2018-01-11 21:15
#348
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Canada officeglobal 
expected
2018-01-11 21:17
for sure the best in the world in terms of talent and raw skill, over niko and f0rest no way fallen actually makes top5. that would be fucking insane to have three SK players in top5
2018-01-11 21:20
i think sk will have them atleast top 6
2018-01-11 21:24
Its Impossible for the best IGL and monster fragger and Awper Fallen be out of top 5. I wont be surprised If Fallen finish as top 2 or 3. But I think he Will be number 4
2018-01-11 21:43
his start to the year was absolute garbage though, back when he was still trying his brand's new mouse out even still, the players in top7 will be fer, rain, niko, cold, fallen, kennyS and device. I'd say top4 will be cold, niko, fer, rain but it's not impossible for fallen to finish above kenny and device
2018-01-11 22:21
I Will be surprised If guys with a worst year and easier roles in the game as KennyS, Device and Rain finished 2017 in front of Fallen
2018-01-12 00:39
LOL?????????? s1mple is n1
2018-01-11 21:21
s1mpleCSGOD
2018-01-11 21:22
nice joke
2018-01-11 21:23
#358
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Macau Bent0 
top 3 tbh
2018-01-11 21:27
#366
Zeus | 
Turkey dotu 
+1
2018-01-11 21:35
+1
2018-01-11 22:50
Can these rankings get anymore bullshit? What a sophisticated algorithm.
2018-01-11 21:30
notable team achievements: -
2018-01-11 21:41
0 tier 1 titles Always a shit in big tournaments And S1mple made top 8??????
2018-01-11 21:41
Always a shit in big tournaments ?? excuse-moi
2018-01-11 22:04
#373
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Denmark tntn 
This is a perfect example that you can come a long way baiting
2018-01-11 21:41
#379
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Latvia Tibro 
n1
2018-01-11 21:44
1 Coldzera 2 Niko, Fer or Fallen 5 Rain 6 KennyS 7 Device
2018-01-11 21:46
you naive idiots still think KennyS is in the list...
2018-01-12 09:39
Yes, he is
2018-01-12 14:29
still think that?
2018-01-15 21:44
Yeah, because Dev1ce 2017 in front of Fallen is a completely joke of this shit danish site.
2018-01-16 02:59
#384
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Hungary kktsrvii 
top 5 deserved..
2018-01-11 21:49
Absolute joke of a list. There are 7 better players in the world than s1mple? Hahahaha what a fucking load of shit. Idiot HLTV thinks only good teams have good players so why not put 5 players of the 2 best teams in top 5. Stupid ass website. s1mple is top 3 behind cold and niko
2018-01-11 21:58
#397
shox | 
Poland Sildek 
True
2018-01-11 22:06
#482
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Slovakia kokotko1g 
accomplished nothing, so this is as high as it gets, look at niko last year, and he was much better than simple ....
2018-01-12 03:13
and niko deserved to be higher. niko was top 3 last year
2018-01-12 20:56
good notable stats but barely high tournament placings
2018-01-11 22:02
#396
shox | 
Poland Sildek 
Shame that he doesnt have a team that would stand up to his potential
2018-01-11 22:06
#398
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Bosnia and Herzegovina Stook 
And Snax is number 20...
2018-01-11 22:07
Congratulations to Alexander! I hope this event will be a motivation to become the best player in the world of cyber sport. Bravo!
2018-01-11 22:07
He deserves way more than that.
2018-01-11 22:13
no 1 2018
2018-01-11 22:13
#410
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Russia Buckstabue 
He might be higher because he got nice stats while his team was downperforming af the whole year. That's much harder to gain when you play alone
2018-01-11 22:29
+1
2018-01-11 22:49
#411
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Brazil BuddyINSANE 
unexpected!
2018-01-11 22:29
One of the most UNDERRATED players by HLTV... Both in 2016 and 2017.... VERY SAD HLTV, shame on you guys..
2018-01-11 22:36
#421
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Germany Naviever 
in 2018 He will be N1
2018-01-11 22:55
#422
NBK- | 
Europe Totole 
did nothing this year tho.. top 8 not deserved
2018-01-11 22:56
#424
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Germany Naviever 
kid, please buy a brain
2018-01-11 23:00
#425
NBK- | 
Europe Totole 
what did s1mple achieve in 2017? not even close to the level he had in 2016 and even less close to the likes of coldzera, fer, niko, rain, kennyS or dev1ce
2018-01-11 23:01
#426
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Germany Naviever 
If not S1, NaVi would not be in top30 He was carrying so much that he won several games only by himself he has high rating so N8 deserved
2018-01-11 23:04
#427
NBK- | 
Europe Totole 
dude niko hard carried a tier5 team during TWO YEARS without reaching top 10 he was playing alone vs whole teams like virtus pro, titan, tsm, etc... niko >>>>>>>>>>>>>> s1mple even in this carry-type style
2018-01-11 23:06
#430
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Germany Naviever 
You cant undersand such a SIMPLE things :D S1mple also is carrying NaVi vs big teams, not winning tournaments but NaVi is still Tier2 at least and look at his rating at majors. last major 1.43 rating, damn, and you say he didnt deserve 8th spot? If NaVi won 1 big tournament this Yeah, S1mple would be top3 at least (If not top1)
2018-01-11 23:11
#432
NBK- | 
Europe Totole 
navi tier 2 you're delusional
2018-01-11 23:11
#434
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Germany Naviever 
navi tier 2-3. at least !!!
2018-01-11 23:13
#558
NBK- | 
Europe Totole 
LUL
2018-01-13 18:29
#556
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Ukraine WhiteREP 
Idts
2018-01-13 10:43
#559
NBK- | 
Europe Totole 
LUL thanks mr s1mple to carry against mousesports
2018-01-13 18:30
with this kind of logic, then tabsen deserved top10 spot? he has better rating than simple in krakow groupstage (1.46) and has been top peformer for big this year
2018-01-12 11:44
I dont understand, why this guy left Liquid
2018-01-11 23:09
#433
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Germany Naviever 
go to doctor
2018-01-11 23:12
Yes
2018-01-12 17:22
#435
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Ukraine den37773 
Simple the best!
2018-01-11 23:15
torille
2018-01-11 23:16
#438
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Brazil hugoooo 
Insane stats, unfortunately the lack of results couldn't make him get a better position.
2018-01-11 23:16
Is this a joke? -Have a very pleased day! VeryPleasedGuy
2018-01-11 23:18
#443
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Poland morosek 
Notable stats: #2, #2, #11, #1 , #1, #1 Nice.
2018-01-11 23:25
#445
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Brazil imFroosTy 
NOB
2018-01-11 23:26
#446
XeqtR | 
Hong Kong wqnxy1 
this top is a joke undeserved
2018-01-11 23:27
not the best year for the team, but he always plays as top player S1mple GOD
2018-01-11 23:30
8lul no wins tournaments, not top 5 obv
2018-01-11 23:34
#452
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Indonesia ibnu 
7. kennys 6. fallen 5.fer 4.rain 3. device 2.niko 1. cold
2018-01-11 23:42
only 8 LOLN?
2018-01-11 23:45
YOU AREE MY FAVORITE+ PLAYER!! !! <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 FCUK THIS ITS ALL SHIT BRO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YOU DID NOT DESERVE 8 PLACE S1MPLE YOU ARE GOD!! NO1
2018-01-12 00:01
Expected. And deserved. He's a top 3 player no doubt, it's just that his team holds him back way too much... Hopefully Na'Vi could become relevant in 2018, so we can see him where he really belongs.
2018-01-12 00:16
only 2 events under 1.1 rating and only #8 lmfa0 this is the most fucking terrible ranking yet. whoever made it bleach ur fucking esophagus retard
2018-01-12 00:21
#463
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Other chanse 
simple should change team
2018-01-12 00:38
2018-01-12 00:44
#466
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Brazil spaark1 
lmao what???
2018-01-12 00:59
#468
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Germany ndr[o] 
ARE YOU SERIOUS MY EYES??? what a joke, he deserved higher than this lul
2018-01-12 01:06
expected
2018-01-12 01:26
Navi only #1 1time and #3 2times...
2018-01-12 01:35
low impact player confirmed
2018-01-12 01:58
#476
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United States justkapf 
too few wins against top10 = top8
2018-01-12 02:33
how do you get top 10 player and not win shit.. yeah its easier to have better stats and higher rating when you never have to play the hard teams in multiple Bo3 to make it to the finals
2018-01-12 03:01
#481
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United States Jammin800k 
MY BOY KENNY RISES
2018-01-12 03:06
1. coldzera 2. NiKo 3. fer 4. rain 5. FalleN 6. kennyS 7. f0rest/device
2018-01-12 03:50
so overrated
2018-01-12 03:53
not trash player
2018-01-12 04:12
#488
fer | 
Brazil cadik 
some guy is baiting teammates + eco/exit fragging in tier4 torunaments for whole year, and then HLTV put him in #8 place of top20 players of the year LMAO
2018-01-12 04:47
#490
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Europe Vallon 
You just described eco/baitzera, lmao.
2018-01-12 04:55
#494
fer | 
Brazil _DRC_ 
Ecozera? Man, go watch this beast playing, sir partiality
2018-01-12 05:49
can you read you inbred favelo? s1mple was statistically one of the most impressive players of 2017, ranking first in kills per round (0.84) and damage per round (87.4). He also had the biggest influence in a team, having averaged 112.4 damage in the rounds that Natus Vincere won - the highest of all players with at least 50 maps played over the year. if anyone has inflated numbers because of eco kills it's Coldzera or fer btw those stats are from t1 tournaments not t4 stopid favela, it's even more impressive since they didnt win shit, if you win you get free stats like BOT Taco from eco kills
2018-01-12 13:46
#489
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Europe Vallon 
Better than coldzera and maybe even NiKo when it comes to mechanical skill.
2018-01-12 04:54
deserved good luck 2k18
2018-01-12 05:39
Deserved
2018-01-12 05:39
navi need moral stability then they can play their new game style "dog", one of the favorites of major
2018-01-12 06:41
#499
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Luxembourg alex24 
undeserved just because simple hunts eco and exit frags and has a high ratio ? same thing with coldzera... this is why life is unfair
2018-01-12 07:16
nt s1mple, u gud playah but only one 1st team place feel sad 4 navi ;(
2018-01-12 07:37
must be top 5 IMHO
2018-01-12 08:49
#508
LUq | 
Poland neverbait 
s1mple csgod he carry his team in the flipside
2018-01-12 09:42
He should be top five at least
2018-01-12 09:49
#512
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Switzerland Charonimou 
esl cologne 2015 souvenirs.... a Great player
2018-01-12 10:18
GOAT
2018-01-12 10:35
only 8 joking ?? cmmon
2018-01-12 10:51
#528
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Kyrgyzstan Inv1ctuS 
No funny. Only 1 mvp.Group stage PGL Majir Krakow.1/4 Eleague Major Atlanta.And bad results on big lan events:Epicentre,IEM Katowice,Eleague premier,No EPL,no ECS.
2018-01-12 13:14
he was GOD whole year. who cares about MVP? MVP is only for player which team winning the event.... it's a known fact. why you even count those MVP? MVP = same team achievements = must be not count in this ranking at all.
2018-01-12 13:24
Why you bully me bisch?!
2018-01-12 11:13
#517
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Brazil mano_Onetwo 
If s1mple #8 TACO #1 ggwp
2018-01-12 11:35
#524
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United States Paradoks 
congratz s1mple i like ur playstyle
2018-01-12 13:01
#526
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Kyrgyzstan Inv1ctuS 
Expected. 7.Kennus or device
2018-01-12 13:11
nice
2018-01-12 13:14
GOD simp pimp <33
2018-01-12 16:36
#554
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Ukraine WhiteREP 
Top 1 of 2018 inc.
2018-01-12 23:45
What did he do in 2017 to deserve #8? Destroyed another team? nice
2018-01-13 01:41
SIMPLE EIGHT?? WTF he is a top4/top5 player...omg
2018-01-13 12:11
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