Top 20 players of 2017: FalleN (6)

LucasAM
January 13th, 2018 14:00

Gabriel "FalleN" Toledo takes the sixth spot on our top 20 ranking of the year, powered by EGB.com. SK Gaming's veteran was one of the top performers in the playoff stages of big events throughout 2017 and one of the best at opening up rounds and clutching them.

Top 20 players of 2017: Introduction

The unflagging motor of Brazilian CS, Gabriel "FalleN" Toledo, is part of a dwindling group of players who can boast a career going all the way back to the early-mid 2000s. Between 2005 and 2008, FalleN got his first notable results, especially at WCG events. In 2008, FalleN started to make himself known, getting a fourth-place finish at WCG with several good performances. The following year, the Brazilian AWPer would be asked to join the country’s best team FireGamers, linking up with the likes of Lincoln "fnx" Lau, Renato "nak" Nakano, and Bruno "bit" Lima.

Since then, it was uphill for FalleN in CS 1.6, and in 2010 he played several international tournaments. First came ESWC, where FireGamers ended in 5-6th place, and then the WCG Pan-American against, which they won over Jordan "n0thing" Gilbert’s Evil Geniuses, a team he would beat again at the IEM V American Championship Finals. That yeah, FalleN also finished 4th at the main WCG event after dominating the local qualifier.

FalleN in action at WCG 2009 alongside nak

In 2011, with CS 1.6 losing some steam FalleN dabbled in CS:S while still playing 1.6. FalleN’s last event back then was with PlayArt, at a WCG Pan-American event in which he beat n0thing and Braxton "swag" Pierce’s Ultimax Gaming.

"I always believed CS was going to be a big esport. I bet on it for many years, although I was cautious and had a plan B in case my expectations didn’t become reality. In 2012, as I was getting the Games Academy project underway, I also studied electrical engineering for eight hours a day at a public university.

"In 2013 I enrolled at the Federal University of Curitiba (UTFPR), but that only lasted two weeks. One day, a professor asked me “why are you here?” and I answered "this is my plan B. I need a future in case my life as a gamer doesn’t work out." I didn’t show up the following day. After thinking about that conversation for hours, I decided to risk even more and go all-in on my dream, putting 100% of my energy into Games Academy and other projects."

It wasn’t until 2013 that FalleN switched over to CS:GO, as the scene in Brazil was considerably small at the time, and he plyed his trade for an "FPS" squad playing several games at the same time, alongside longtime teammate Fernando "fer" Alvarenga as well as fnx, Lucas "LUCAS1" Teles, and Henrique "HEN1" Teles. That team played their first international event at ESWC 2014, but a 21st-24th finish prompted changes in the scene. By merging KaBuM and TD, FalleN made the first Brazilian team that would have some sort of international success.

"Competition always ran in my blood. In Brazil we had different eras where some games had more competition than others. Many times, playing one or two relevant tournaments per year wasn’t enough. I wanted more. The challenge of playing more than one game at the same time always instigated me because I wanted to test my potential. I was a decent player for a Brazilian level when I played both CS:Source and CS 1.6 at the same time.

"When I played CrossFire, CS 1.6, and CS:GO, we were champions in almost every tournament we played in Brazil. The lack of tournaments and opportunities early on in CS:GO and the fact that other publishers like the one running CrossFire were supporting  competition in the country made me embrace the idea of competing on a high level in Brazil.

"When we decided to make the multi-fps lineup I wanted two players, fnx and fer. We had no idea who the two others would be. We even thought about playing with two CrossFire players, but that lineup never materialized. We ultimately decided to go with the only two players who had some experience in 1.6 and who were playing CrossFire, HEN1 and LUCAS1.

"That lineup had a lot of chemistry and we competed together for the first time in an international CS:GO event at ESWC in Paris, having won most of the tournaments we played in Brazil in several games."

KaBuM.TD had on their books FalleN, fer, Ricardo "boltz" Prass, Lucas "steel" Lopes, and Caio "zqkS" Fonseca. After winning the Brazilian qualifier for MLG X Games Aspen, that lineup was able to catch the attention of the international community after taking a map, Mirage, FalleN & co.’s best, against Cloud9, by a 16-4 scoreline.

"It was very difficult to get enough money to go there, we knew we weren’t going to go there to win but as a first step to evolve and begin our journey. Due to the lack of funding it would have been really hard to compete with the existing structure, which is why we merged the two organizations, which had both the financial potential and the will to make it happen. That was the first lineup that got Brazil to a Major.

"I say that the Brazilian qualifier for MLG Aspen was the most important tournament of our lives. It allowed us to travel internationally with trips and lodging covered, which at that time was uncommon in Brazilian competitions (with the exception of the WCG of previous years). Our showing there, mostly the win over Cloud9, is what got us invited to the Katowice Major qualifier.

"I can’t describe the happiness I felt at the time, when I saw opportunities starting to appear. The eyes of the community finally looked towards Brazil and South America, and it was thanks to the community (fans and players, especially flusha) that we were able to finance our trip to the team’s first Major in Katowice.”

FalleN earned his first ticket to a Major at the ESL One Katowice 2015 Main Qualifier

After making a top-eight finish at the Major qualifier and securing a spot at the $250,000 event, KaBuM.TD made the jump to North America, where they played in the ESL Pro League and in the FACEIT League, quickly becoming a top side in the region. One of the most important changes in the team’s history came after a group stage exit at ESWC 2015, when FalleN brought Marcelo "coldzera" David on board.

After replacing zqkS on the roster, coldzera quickly became one of the best players in the world, and it also meant FalleN could go back to being the main AWPer in the team, his longtime role. Having secured a spot at ESL One Cologne by finishing 5-8th in Katowice and settled in California, FalleN saw the perfect opportunity to bring on another Brazilian team, which ended up being Games Academy, the winners of FalleN’s Games Academy Golden Chance.

"When we decided to move to a slightly better house in Lancaster, California, across the street from where we had lived, I saw an opportunity to bring more great players who were in Brazil and had no opportunities. There’s no use in having talented players if they do not have opportunities, and I suffered a lot because of that during my whole career.

"Bringing the Games Academy project in partnership with Azubu, which financed the project and helped Ricardo [dead] and Camila, we decided to bring more Brazilians to live the dream that not long before was also mine."

Under Keyd Stars and Luminosity the Brazilian lineup played two more Majors, and while they were able to keep Legend status, the team was unable to perform in best-of-threes, making deep runs in tournaments very hard. That prompted steel and boltz to be dropped and fnx and Epitacio "TACO" de Melo to be brought into the starting lineup. The change had an immediate effect on the team as Luminosity went on to take second place, losing 1-2 to fnatic, at the FACEIT Stage 3 Finals.

2016 was the breakout year for FalleN & co., as they became one of the dominant forces in top-tier CS. That year, FalleN had an incredible 8 EVPs and 1 MVP, becoming the second best player of the year, only trailing behind teammate coldzera. The first tournament win for Luminosity was the MLG Major in Columbus, which was followed by wins at DreamHack Austin—where FalleN was named MVP—and at the ESL Pro League Season 3 Finals.

FalleN with the new Luminosity roster in early 2016

Among a plethora of deep runs in tournaments, several finals that couldn’t be closed out, and a few semi-final runs, FalleN & co., now under the SK banner, were once again able to bag a Major, their second in a row, at ESL One Cologne 2016 before closing the year out with several second and third-fourth place finishes.

With fnx out of the team late in 2016, SK played the first event of the year, the ELEAGUE Major, with Ricardo "fox" Pacheco. While the team had been practicing with João "felps" Vasconcellos, who would only be officially announced in February, he was ineligible to play in Atlanta due to Major transfer restrictions. With the stand-in, SK, the Brazilian team was able to take a respectable third-fourth place. Personally, FalleN had a 1.05 rating, fourth in the team, and a 72.4 ADR, in what would be a slow start to the year.

SK at the ELEAGUE Major, the first event of 2017

The second event of the year, DreamHack Masters Las Vegas, was also average for FalleN as SK—now with felps—lost in the final to Virtus.pro. In Las Vegas, FalleN averaged a 1.02 rating, once again fourth in the team, ending the tournament with more maps with ratings below the 1.0 mark than above.

The two following tournaments, IEM Katowice and StarSeries Season 3 Finals, were where FalleN, and the whole team, dipped lowest. For the Brazilian AWPer, it was the only two tournaments of the year with ratings below 1.0. In Poland, SK went out in 11-12th place after two victories and four losses in the round-robin group stage. FalleN only had one map with a positive rating, in a 16-6 victory over Heroic. At the StarSeries Season 3 Finals, SK also went out in the groups, in 9-11th place, and FalleN posted his worst rating of the year, 0.86.

"I had a rough start to the year, trying to adjust my game and testing the team in action with a more aggressive felps, trying to find space and make plays we didn’t before. I was good in the first tournament, but terrible in the second and third ones. That’s when we realized our previous structure was more adequate and reliable than the way we were playing. Then we started to organize the team in the same way we did in 2016.

Having figured out that felps’ aggressive style didn’t work for the team, FalleN decided to revert to their previous style, giving FalleN freedom to make plays once again. That change was noticed immediately at cs_ummit, a laid-back tournament that SK were able to win and where the 26-year-old got his first EVP of the season after delivering a 1.22 rating. The AWPer was particularly solid on the Terrorist side in California as he ended with a season-high 1.36 T-rating.

"At the beginning of the year I was going through something I’ve never gone through in my 15-year career as a CS player. Excessive criticism from fans, as well as from myself because I wasn’t giving my best and playing at a level that was below the one I consider I’m usually at.

"FalleN was always a friendly person, who tries to stay away from trouble and avoids controversy. BADFALLEN is the opposite, he appeared when I felt like I wasn’t able to put up with some of the things I was experiencing. Some people have a very short memory. You can do thousands of good things and it just takes one bad thing for people to come out with a hammer and crucify you. Such is the world. Even if you’re used to it, depending on how intense it is, it can still hit you.

"BADFALLEN appeared to get FalleN out of that situation, and he did it. It started randomly when I was playing Rank S and one of my teammates threw a flash in my face even though I had communicated what I was doing. In the heat of the moment, I put my sunglasses on and told him to flash me again, ironically of course. That is when I saw the opportunity to bring my alter ego to life."

FalleN stabilized after that, and the team went back to being one of the dominating forces in CS. Their next event took place in Australia, which played host to an IEM stop. In Sydney, SK emerged victorious after beating FaZe 3-1 in the final, and FalleN was awarded another EVP. He only had the fourth-highest rating on the team, but it was still a very commendable 1.22. In the three games won against FaZe in the final, FalleN had 1.10, 1.44, and 1.17 map ratings.

At the ESL Pro League Season 5 Finals, SK went out in the semi-finals to G2, a team they tend to struggle against. FalleN was still awarded an EVP, however, and deservedly so as he was second-best in his team with a 1.22 rating and a year-high 83.1 ADR. SK went back to winning ways at DreamHack Summer, although FalleN had a personal dip as he went down to a 1.05 rating, being rated fourth in the team.

SK and FalleN struggled early in the year

SK doubled up at the ECS Season 3 Finals, where FalleN earned his fourth EVP mention of the year despite a relatively low 1.09 rating (third best among the squad), in part thanks to his team-leading 0.58 DPR and a very high KAST (72.8%). The team then visited Cologne, a familiar city for SK, whose headquarters and bootcamp facilities are located there. Right before the PGL Major, FalleN had a great event, leading his team to a first-place finish and earning an MVP award with a 1.24 rating—second highest of the year—and an impressive 1.32 impact.

"Technological advancement for demo analysis, the addition of coaches and analysts to teams, internationale teams being formed, and a great number of competitions and new talents appearing make this one of the most competitive eras of CS. Everything you do today will have been studied tomorrow. You have to have the basics nailed down really well to not just be a one-hit wonder. It’s also important to know how innovate which is what makes the difference in winning titles, tournament after tournament. How to do this without much time to practice is the secret to be on top and get ahead of the rest. There were many tight periods during the year and in most of them we were amongst the best."

The Major was FalleN’s worst memory of the year, as, according to him, "poor computers and the jump bug" marred what was supposed to be one of the most anticipated tournaments of the year. There, SK went out in the quarter-finals to Astralis, with whom they were paired after losing to BIG in the group stage. FalleN ended the tournament with a 1.01 rating, one of his lowest of the year.

In Malmö, SK also went out in the quarter-finals, but FalleN gave a better account of himself, boasting a 1.13 rating and seven 1vsX situations won. After Malmö, SK went to Mykonos, where they got a third-place finish, with FalleN keeping an upward trajectory individually as he brought in a 1.16 rating.

SK were back in business after a tumultuous start to 2017

At ESL One New York, SK had another semi-final run, and FalleN had his highest rating of the year at 1.29 — with above-average ratings in every game and only one of them below 1.20 —although he was only the third-best in the team. Despite the team playing well individually, they lost in a tight semi-final to Liquid.

SK had a rough ELEAGUE Premier, going out in the group stage following back-to-back defeats to Heroic. Before EPICENTER, however, everything changed. That was boltz’s first tournament with the team, and SK went all the way to claim their first title in a while. In St. Petersburg FalleN was awarded yet another EVP—his fifth— after delivering a 1.23 rating. After that, SK flew to California, for IEM Oakland, where FalleN had a 1.11 rating in the team's semi-final run, the third best in the team.

"Our team is special. It’s the combination of peculiarities of every players on the team that makes us strong. The way of thinking, the efficiency during training, the respect towards and constant research on our opponents. Talent and innovation distances us from other teams. When our “machine” is working, we have coldzera at his highest level, fer being unpredictable, making our game easier and being a terror for the opponent, TACO’s dedication and mastery playing some of the hardest roles in the game for the benefit of the team, and now boltz in the passive role and filling the holes we need him to complete us.

"Knowing what to expect from my teammates, understanding what and how they like to do things, makes my life a lot easier as leader and that way I know what to do during the rounds. In addition, bringing boltz on has allowed me to have more freedom and be able to take more risks which is one of the strongest parts of my game."

SK bagged the last two events they played in 2017, BLAST Pro Series in Copenhagen, where FalleN was presented with his second MVP medal of the year, in large part thanks to an absolutely stunning performance in the grand final against Astralis. The experienced Brazilian, who racked up 38 frags in the last map of the final, also had an extremely high 1.27 Impact, his third highest of the year.

SK closed out the year as #1 in the ranking

Finally, SK took the ESL Pro League Season 6 title in Odense, and, as the second best-rated player on the winning team (1.22), FalleN was once again awarded an EVP, his sixth and last. The 26-year-old featured in the top five in eight different categories, leading in none, and was the highest rated player in two of the three maps won in the much anticipated final against FaZe.

"I consider this year much more of a success than the one in which we won the Majors. We won both Majors in 2016, it was a good year, and we placed high many times, but we failed too much in big finals and let titles slip away.

"In 2017, we won eight titles in nine finals. The team is more mature and committed, and, in my opinion, the Majors have lost some prestige. The computers in Krakow weren’t in the best condition, which is absurd for events that are supposed to be the biggest of the year. We won a lot of tournaments in 2017 that could have easily been described as Majors, and, for us, they were. Beating the best teams in the world is what motivates us and keeps us going. Valve has to work better on their tournaments, bring more innovations and exceed the expectations of fans and players."

Why was FalleN the sixth best player of 2017?

One of the main reasons FalleN is ranked this high is because of his outstanding performances in playoffs at big events (1.14 rating over 65 maps, the fifth highest), which makes him one of only a handful of players who were able to achieve better ratings in playoffs than in group stages.

"When I’m on the stage or when I play an elimination match I know there is nothing to lose. I’m different from the rest and what I had to go through to get here was different. So when I get in the server I know I’m unique, and that’s my motivation. I play to change my life, to change my family’s life, the lives of the players on my team and of the thousands of fans, especially those in my home country. The moment on stage is my moment of consecration. I don’t play "not to lose." I play to win.

"I take risks others don’t take. I make decisions others would never make. Sometimes they work out, sometimes they don’t, and I know the person next to me will stay with me, regardless if we win or lose.  That’s my motivation. My team counts on me, and I have to deliver my best."

FalleN was also the fifth player with the most standout performances at big events, garnering two MVPs, at ESL One Cologne and BLAST Pro Series, and six EVPs, at cs_summit, IEM Sydney, ESL Pro League Season 5 Finals, ECS Season 3 Finals, EPICENTER, and ESL Pro League Season 6 Finals.

boltz's addition gave FalleN the freedom to make plays again

Although he had just the seventh-highest AWP kills per round ratio at 0.37, he had the most kills with the 'Big Green' (1575), which still ranks him high on the list of best snipers of the year.

As usual, FalleN was one of the hardest players to kill (0.60 DPR, second-lowest), one of the best clutch players of the year, winning 59 1vsX situations (ranked second), and one of the best at opening up rounds, boasting a 61% success rate (second).

"I practice, I study, I learn. I’ve been doing this for 15 years. I’ve never gone more than two weeks without playing Counter-Strike. I never believe I’ve reached the limit of what I can learn. If you play as much as I do the way I do, you can also make it to the top. And remember: the amount of practice does not equal the quality of it. I didn’t make it here alone. My teammates and my team are essential to my success. I would have probably not accomplished any of the things I have accomplished without the right people by my side. I’m always grateful to them, every day of my life.

"And, while we are on this, I’m second in a lot of things. I don’t mind not being first. What I care about is always trying to be the best. Knowing that you tried to be the best should always be comforting. Especially in defeat. If you’re not ready to lose, you’ll never be prepared to be a champion."

While all of the aforementioned statistics means he stood out in many ways as a top five player, his poor performance at the beginning of the year affected his overall consistency compared to other players, leaving him just outside the top five on our ranking.

Bold Prediction

FalleN went with a Brazilian player when asked to predict someone who will break out in 2018, and that player was Luminosity’s star, Marcelo "chelo" Cespedes, who had a good showing at the ESL Pro League Finals in Odense, where he averaged a 1.34 rating.

Brazil Marcelo "chelo" Cespedes

"I saw a bit of the level chelo reached at the end of 2017, and I think he has potential to become a great player. There are many talented players who can be in the ranking next year, but here’s a tip for everyone: be the best your team needs, not the best that you think you have to be.

Good luck!"

Stay tuned to our Top 20 players of 2017 ranking powered by EGB.com and take a look at the Introduction article to learn more about how the players were picked.

Brazil Marcelo 'coldzera' David
Marcelo 'coldzera' David
Age:
23
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.21
Maps played:
816
KPR:
0.81
DPR:
0.61
APR:
0.12
Brazil Epitacio 'TACO' de Melo
Epitacio 'TACO' de Melo
Age:
23
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.95
Maps played:
713
KPR:
0.62
DPR:
0.64
APR:
0.12
Brazil João 'felps' Vasconcellos
João 'felps' Vasconcellos
Age:
21
Rating 1.0:
1.06
Maps played:
549
KPR:
0.76
DPR:
0.71
APR:
0.16
Brazil Marcelo 'chelo' Cespedes
Marcelo 'chelo' Cespedes
Age:
20
Rating 1.0:
1.05
Maps played:
310
KPR:
0.72
DPR:
0.67
APR:
0.13
United States Jordan 'n0thing' Gilbert
Jordan 'n0thing' Gilbert
Age:
27
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
1.03
Maps played:
731
KPR:
0.71
DPR:
0.67
APR:
0.15
Brazil Lucas 'steel' Lopes
Lucas 'steel' Lopes
Age:
24
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.98
Maps played:
682
KPR:
0.66
DPR:
0.66
APR:
0.13
Brazil Caio 'zqkS' Fonseca
Caio 'zqkS' Fonseca
Age:
26
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.99
Maps played:
322
KPR:
0.66
DPR:
0.65
APR:
0.12
United States Braxton 'swag' Pierce
Braxton 'swag' Pierce
Age:
21
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.12
Maps played:
323
KPR:
0.75
DPR:
0.63
APR:
0.15
Brazil Gabriel 'FalleN' Toledo
Gabriel 'FalleN' Toledo
Age:
27
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.09
Maps played:
862
KPR:
0.71
DPR:
0.60
APR:
0.11
Brazil Renato 'nak' Nakano
Renato 'nak' Nakano
Age:
29
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.96
Maps played:
195
KPR:
0.65
DPR:
0.66
APR:
0.15
Brazil Bruno 'bit' Lima
Bruno 'bit' Lima
Age:
27
Rating 1.0:
1.02
Maps played:
238
KPR:
0.69
DPR:
0.66
APR:
0.15
Brazil Lincoln 'fnx' Lau
Lincoln 'fnx' Lau
Age:
28
Rating 1.0:
1.07
Maps played:
469
KPR:
0.73
DPR:
0.65
APR:
0.17
Brazil Fernando 'fer' Alvarenga
Fernando 'fer' Alvarenga
Age:
26
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.11
Maps played:
858
KPR:
0.77
DPR:
0.68
APR:
0.16
Portugal Ricardo 'fox' Pacheco
Ricardo 'fox' Pacheco
Age:
31
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.03
Maps played:
674
KPR:
0.72
DPR:
0.68
APR:
0.14
Brazil Henrique 'HEN1' Teles
Henrique 'HEN1' Teles
Age:
22
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.14
Maps played:
513
KPR:
0.73
DPR:
0.58
APR:
0.12
Brazil Lucas 'LUCAS1' Teles
Lucas 'LUCAS1' Teles
Age:
22
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.01
Maps played:
510
KPR:
0.68
DPR:
0.66
APR:
0.16
Brazil Ricardo 'boltz' Prass
Ricardo 'boltz' Prass
Age:
21
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.06
Maps played:
811
KPR:
0.72
DPR:
0.64
APR:
0.17
device > fallen? really? i fallen of my chair
2018-01-13 14:05
but who is top2 then lol?
2018-01-13 14:00
#30
hotdog | 
Finland hotdog^ 
fer and cold
2018-01-13 14:01
#112
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Portugal phvm 
I cant be beleve that the only american player in the top 20s is elige, and liquid didnt win anythink this year
2018-01-13 14:07
#118
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Belgium KevinGatesYo 
FalleN >>>>>>>>>>>>>> dev1ce
2018-01-13 14:08
#312
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Brazil Valhalla00 
device will #5 just because the overpass match in PGL Krakow that device dominated Fallen
2018-01-13 14:55
+1 FalleN got school'd on that match.
2018-01-13 15:18
I still have nightmares about that day; the day that the best IGL in the world was owned by device.
2018-01-13 16:00
I would too because device has never really been a good or a flashy awper
2018-01-13 16:46
#512
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Denmark MeToxi 
Just a consistent and very dynamic one
2018-01-13 17:03
has never really been a good or a flashy awper. What?:D:D:DD
2018-01-14 03:40
Faze still have nightmares about Fer raping them in Overpass.
2018-01-13 17:42
#648
suNny | 
United States VAZ1R 
Tell me one team that has no respect for fer?
2018-01-14 01:42
bra71l
2018-01-15 10:53
Coolest comment ever. That fuck*ng day was terrible
2018-01-13 20:06
#434
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Germany s2ily 
Imagine gla1ve being higher ranked as FalleN. :D
2018-01-13 15:50
Taco is better than gla1ve
2018-01-14 21:55
#693
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Germany s2ily 
+1
2018-01-14 21:55
#445
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Kazakhstan Ahaj 
then mou dominated device on overpass
2018-01-13 15:57
#521
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Europe CRYBUYPOWER 
Dev1ce will come 5th just because he looks sexy
2018-01-13 17:24
#602
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Australia KatVian 
Well yeah device will steal the match then your girl.
2018-01-13 20:01
#683
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Brazil Valhalla00 
I TOLD YOU GUYS
2018-01-14 14:59
device getting higher spot has nothing to do with one match jesus people look at the simple chart, device has almost zero red for the year, FalleN had a ton of red; difficult games due to their roster situation at the time
2018-01-14 18:32
#690
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Brazil Valhalla00 
Yes, I know that. Like someone said to me once: HLTV = NUMBERS Dev1ce Numbers > Fallen Numbers Dev1ce Skills < Fallen Skills It was just a joke, because i think 75% of pple would say fallen > dev1ce, but the way Dev1ce dominated Fallen in PGL was amazing. It looke like Fallen was just a normal player and Dev1ce a God Among men.
2018-01-14 19:48
Apparently he was sick back then so probably gave his all to make sure they got past SK, indeed it was a disgusting performance
2018-01-15 13:13
not even f0rest smh, instead fucking elige
2018-01-13 14:29
#222
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Portugal phvm 
Or adren, or steiw or rain or konfig
2018-01-13 14:32
but like srsly, elige did not deserve that spot but i think forest should have been like 20th-17th (or fox) kappa
2018-01-13 14:33
#228
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Portugal phvm 
Ahhahaa fox lolll
2018-01-13 14:34
f0rest was the only reason nip didn't go outside the top 20 this year. he should have at least 15 on top 20..
2018-01-13 16:57
#276
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Italy John Dorian 
rain will be in the top5 dood
2018-01-13 14:46
#282
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Portugal phvm 
Think with me fer is on the top 5 cold to device and niko?
2018-01-13 14:48
#287
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Italy John Dorian 
its obvious whos left in top5 5 device 4 rain 3 fer 2 niko 1 cold
2018-01-13 14:50
1st cold 2nd.... 3rd rain 4th..... 5th.... fer,niko,device and no one left to mention i guess who can be top 5 material
2018-01-13 14:59
#349
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Portugal phvm 
I think fer il be on top2
2018-01-13 15:11
Kind of doubt it when NiKo has 2 MVP medals for 2017 whereas fer only has one + a higher rating which is probably what mostly matters for HLTV
2018-01-13 17:53
#649
suNny | 
United States VAZ1R 
I agree but not completely. FalleN had two MVPs and got bested by dev1ce
2018-01-14 01:45
That's HLTV being retarded
2018-01-15 06:41
+1
2018-01-13 15:57
#625
rain | 
India Dumbarse 
Rain will be higher
2018-01-13 21:39
#436
 | 
Norway m0sifer 
name 3 Premier LAN tournaments in 2017 where f0rest made top 4.
2018-01-13 15:52
name 3 Premier LAN tournaments in 2017 where s1mple made top 4.
2018-01-13 16:57
#513
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Norway m0sifer 
are you honestly trying to compare a 1.32 rating and a 1.06 rating? Are you for real?
2018-01-13 17:07
all im saying is that f0rest kept his team relevant as much has simple did navi, if simple can be top 10 without his team winning almost anything, then surely f0rest should be top 20 somewhere.
2018-01-13 17:28
#613
 | 
Norway m0sifer 
thing is na'vi actually made it to any events. and they got out of groups most the time. That's the difference maker. NiP was never really at any events and when they were it was weak af opponents or they didn't make it out of groups.
2018-01-13 20:27
Did u miss the event(forgot its name, sorry.) Where they beat SK in the semi finals, 2-1 and Faze inteh finals 3-2? (I believe, i may be fking retarded here)
2018-01-14 00:12
#678
 | 
Norway m0sifer 
That's 1 event. times they've lost in the group stage in 2017: IEM 11 Starladder Season 3 EPL Season 5 (online season) EU Minor Krakow ELEAGUE Premier EU Minor for Boston EPL Season 6 Finals Last place at Blast Pro ECS Season 4 (online season) vs times they made top 4: DH Open Valencia 1st (tier 2/3 at best) DH Malmö 3-4th (legit placement. beat Na'Vi and Gambit in Bo3) Hellcase Cup #6 1st (Tier 3 online tournament where they got invited into top 8 vs Binary Dragons) IEM Oakland 1st (unbelievable overperformance, legit win tho) It takes the entire year into account. So the 1 time they got an insane first place vs the 9 times they failed to get anything at all. You render IEM Oakland as the exception to the rule and not the rule.
2018-01-14 13:29
you can argue that, im not saying f0rest should be ranked higehr than s1mple, what I am saying is that he should be ranked SOMEWHERE in top 20
2018-01-14 00:32
#679
 | 
Norway m0sifer 
eh I wouldn't rank a player that doesn't play at any major and also only has a 1.06 rating and doesn't play in the majors should not be in the top 20. He doesn't have the ratings of a superstar and he also doesn't have any of the placings. IMO what he and his team did in 2017 was not enough to grant top 20.
2018-01-14 13:33
#587
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Brazil PHOntivero 
+1 Can't argue with this.
2018-01-13 19:22
I thought Stewie would be in top 20
2018-01-13 14:31
#224
 | 
Portugal phvm 
Me 2
2018-01-13 14:33
c9 fan wud say that
2018-01-13 14:39
Too true and too blind(the C9 fan) to see the fact he isn't top 20 worthy.
2018-01-13 18:31
EliGE should have got like 20th spöt, not 12th tbh.
2018-01-13 14:33
Elige deserved 12th and Twistzz should be on the list too.
2018-01-13 18:31
#464
lover | 
Other Gala0 
And hes not american
2018-01-13 16:05
#151
 | 
Brazil ToTheStarsEZ 
Fer hahahahahahahahahahahahaha nice bait
2018-01-13 14:14
afghanistan talking
2018-01-13 14:15
#370
 | 
United States mers_cs 
i didnt know that ape’s can write
2018-01-13 15:19
#376
 | 
Other afk47 
Typical hltv banter right here
2018-01-13 15:21
not writing, i am typing
2018-01-13 15:22
if he cant write because mother fucker american soldiers destroyed their schools!!!! and ape...... nowdays world calls donald trump monkey...your president lolololololo asshole
2018-01-13 15:40
#452
 | 
United States mers_cs 
70iq brazilian , sad for you but first of all i dont like trump and 2nd hope for delete br/pt in world :(
2018-01-13 15:59
Just why?
2018-01-13 16:10
#532
 | 
United States mers_cs 
%90 retardos pt , toxic br gays
2018-01-13 17:30
#607
 | 
Australia KatVian 
Have you ever been to be or pt, most people there are extremely nice people who make great food and are very welcoming. They a bad rep online because of how toxic some of the cs fans are.
2018-01-13 20:09
#633
 | 
United States mers_cs 
i went pt , there were good people but bad people still same , my hateness cause of onliner fags
2018-01-13 22:50
#635
 | 
Australia KatVian 
I went to America, there were some nice people and some cunts. Well some Americans are toxic online, better delete an entire country!
2018-01-13 22:55
NA PLAYER hahaha just kidding. YOU're the stupid, not the whole community
2018-01-14 14:37
#461
 | 
Russia xtkjdtr01 
Ape's
2018-01-13 16:04
#50
fer | 
Brazil raoGOD 
coldzera, cuz we already know whos top 1. *cough* ferGOD *cough*
2018-01-13 14:01
#69
 | 
Estonia Chaostic 
niko ofc
2018-01-13 14:02
#214
ropz | 
Spain T0rt1 
Niko Cold Ofc
2018-01-13 14:29
Niko and cold
2018-01-13 15:58
#494
fer | 
Brazil PauloFlu 
BadFallen
2018-01-13 16:37
cold 1, niko 2
2018-01-13 17:56
noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo 6???? WTF
2018-01-13 14:01
#57
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Netherlands malse_man 
Prepare for a triggered Thooorin
2018-01-13 14:01
2018-01-13 14:02
You just forgot 1 simple thing, in 1,3 years sk played with 4 different players as 5 player, he is the igl and coach, is fallen responsibility make the team strong
2018-01-13 14:42
Do not fall of your chair. Have a safe day - VerySafeGuy
2018-01-13 14:09
HOW not #5
2018-01-13 14:54
i dont care hltv ranking anymore ...fallen #6 ????????? i think i am #1
2018-01-13 15:41
#313
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Poland kola5410 
hltv is a fucking joke
2018-01-13 14:56
Lost all HLTV I had for respect. Xd
2018-01-13 15:10
#391
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Brazil imFroosTy 
+321
2018-01-13 15:27
#408
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Turkey talhagunes60 
+989889
2018-01-13 15:36
#413
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Norway MustanGle 
The argument of HLTV analyzes only equal stats are speaking ai not glue, so what for the numbers of titles, mvp and evps in the image? you have to consider the set, if you get all HLTV stats from open kills, clutch, flash, suport, awp kills, success in opening duels, etc ... in all stats possible Dev1ce and Fallen compete for positions each wins in a different type, still has the championships expired 9x2, mvps 2x0 EVPS 5 from Fallen ... Fallen played bad at the beginning of the year, Dev1ce did not play at the end of the year..
2018-01-13 15:38
#541
Stewie2K | 
Brazil lks2 
Guys, at the first semester, FalleN played very badly, Dev1ce keep his consistency all over the year, that's why he is ahead FalleN
2018-01-13 17:39
#566
 | 
United States ShadowScheme 
Well device did win the ELEAGUE major.... he was god there
2018-01-13 18:28
Device all time top 3 by hltv
2018-01-13 20:45
#626
NiKo | 
United States skurr 
device >>>>>>>> fallen
2018-01-13 21:44
1st edit: got to be kidding me
2018-01-13 14:01
#44
fnx | 
Brazil coldzao10y 
HAHAHAHAHHA DEVICE BETTER THAN FALLEN OK RIGGED DANISH HLTV
2018-01-13 14:01
+999999999 Rigged
2018-01-13 14:07
cry is free btw
2018-01-13 14:08
#129
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Germany Trax_ 
triggered Brazilians easy for devve
2018-01-13 14:09
Cry more
2018-01-13 14:10
#143
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Germany cartii 
Cry is freeee
2018-01-13 14:12
The people making the list are not even danish but nice try
2018-01-13 14:29
who says so? SLUSH? fucking nonamer with 400 comments?
2018-01-13 14:29
Who says otherwise? Some autistic, screeching Brazilian idiot? Nice try.
2018-01-13 14:51
#430
fer | 
Brazil _DRC_ 
LOL ahahahahhaha
2018-01-13 15:47
#271
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Denmark spec7re 
This list is retarded even i myself agree that FalleN>device wtf hltv
2018-01-13 14:45
nt
2018-01-13 14:49
#3
flusha | 
Mexico poweriz 
lol
2018-01-13 14:00
top 3 they said
2018-01-13 14:08
electronic LUL Na'Vi LUL
2018-01-13 15:46
#5
 | 
Malta 74c00 
K
2018-01-13 14:00
#6
 | 
United Kingdom Jobelspice 
deserved
2018-01-13 14:00
#7
 | 
Brazil FelSasGru 
nice
2018-01-13 14:00
Good job FalleN! How he is only 6th? I think that he deserved 3rd place at least
2018-01-13 14:03
Danish HLTV tho
2018-01-13 17:37
#9
 | 
Croatia MrMate 
Unexpected, thought he would be top5
2018-01-13 14:00
#74
tarik | 
United States Quadd 
Same
2018-01-13 14:02
Rigged.. Putting device on top of Fallen. Sad hltv
2018-01-13 14:08
Cry more
2018-01-13 14:10
#253
 | 
Brazil vass28 
nice name cunt
2018-01-13 14:41
#644
 | 
Brazil norigui 
he is -8/8 baiter don't worry my friend
2018-01-14 00:53
well nomad is danish so here you have your answer
2018-01-13 15:46
#500
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Brazil Festeiro 
If any pro player had to make a team, Fallen would always be the 1st pick... Doesn't matter if he should be higher, he's a legend and one of the smartest cs player ever.
2018-01-13 16:45
#522
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Croatia MrMate 
Flair and flag check out
2018-01-13 17:25
#565
 | 
Brazil HoaxBrl 
Okay, can you tell me a better fragging/igl/awper? Edit: Clutch situations
2018-01-13 18:28
#600
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Netherlands Nevriz 
+1
2018-01-13 19:45
#637
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Denmark Twok 
Xyp9x best awper, can igl properly, and clutch
2018-01-13 23:15
#697
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Brazil HoaxBrl 
Okay, but do you think he's better than fallen overall?
2018-01-14 22:33
#710
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Denmark Twok 
In support and rifles yes
2018-01-15 06:53
#680
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Brazil Festeiro 
He is lol Fuck the flag and logo
2018-01-14 13:56
Ahahahah
2018-01-13 14:00
#11
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Russia Pumppy 
FalleN>kennyS confrimed
2018-01-13 14:00
ez
2018-01-13 14:00
#14
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Czech Republic MrM4sl0 
yyyyyyyyyyyye
2018-01-13 14:00
ss
2018-01-13 14:00
FalleN top 3 haha get rekt
2018-01-13 14:00
Nt noscener
2018-01-13 14:18
#394
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Portugal Mutiris 
not reckt by 12/13y kid... (excuses because i see your steam profile)
2018-01-13 15:29
yes and I also love f0rest and NiP
2018-01-13 15:29
#419
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Norway Karl_Tanner 
As if top 6 was any bad, lol. You're pathetic
2018-01-13 15:41
I never said its bad but people overrated the fuck out of FalleN and placed him in the top 3. No, you are pathetic.
2018-01-13 15:44
#427
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Norway Karl_Tanner 
No one seriously thought Fallen would be top3, lol. You on the other hand really thought s1mple would be... I can imagine how hard 2017 was for you being a hater of SK, lol.
2018-01-13 15:46
No I didnt thought that s1mple would be in the top 3 of the HLTV top 20. I said he SHOULD be there because he was simply the best player of the year. But what to expect from a person like you. Instead of actually thinking about what I am saying you just make up stuff I said.
2018-01-13 15:56
#438
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Norway Karl_Tanner 
"I said he SHOULD be there because he was simply the best playoer of the year." xDDDDDD
2018-01-13 15:55
Dont talk to me delusional SK fanboy.
2018-01-13 15:56
#458
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Norway Karl_Tanner 
Ok, don't talk to me either delusional sk hater.
2018-01-13 16:02
You started to talk to me???? Also I dont have to be delusional in my way to hate SK :)
2018-01-13 16:03
#466
 | 
Brazil Skimtlg 
Shut up and go watch your team at Major oh wait...
2018-01-13 16:08
what?
2018-01-13 16:09
#471
 | 
Brazil Skimtlg 
NiP is not at the major? oh...
2018-01-13 16:10
60 IQ comment
2018-01-13 16:12
#476
 | 
Brazil Skimtlg 
why ? u are here talking shit where is your team at the major ?
2018-01-13 16:14
#18
 | 
Sweden godname 
LOL
2018-01-13 14:00
xd
2018-01-13 14:00
#20
hotdog | 
Finland hotdog^ 
BEAST
2018-01-13 14:00
#21
 | 
Sweden pontus767 
A joke, that he's higher than KennyS...
2018-01-13 14:01
KennyS inconsistent Fallen is awper AND igl, which is a very hard task to do
2018-01-13 14:03
#91
 | 
Sweden pontus767 
That he's an IGL has nothing to do with his ranking. Also Fallen was actually struggling for a whole while in the beginning of the year.
2018-01-13 14:04
Ofc it has to do. Do you think its only about rating?
2018-01-13 14:28
#220
 | 
Sweden pontus767 
No, but the HLTV top 20 is not about if you IGL or not, it's about the stats.
2018-01-13 14:32
#330
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Kuwait Wow_HG 
stats do not define much RpK top3? hltv.org/stats/players?startDate=2017-01..
2018-01-13 15:02
Yes, players statistical performance has no influence on wether or not they're better than their peers, someones arbitrary and biased opinion has though. okidoki buddy. Stats >>>>>> Opinions.
2018-01-13 15:59
#503
 | 
Sweden pontus767 
Stats is not rating. There's more to it like impact, entries etc.
2018-01-13 16:51
#504
 | 
Kuwait Wow_HG 
And this does not enter the rating?
2018-01-13 16:53
being an igl doesnt seem to have an effect on the ranking. it should, but it doesnt.
2018-01-13 14:53
Xantares top1 confirmed
2018-01-13 15:43
#572
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Brazil Tedzera 
+1
2018-01-13 18:53
HLTV made a big mistake by not even mentioning that FalleN is the brain behind the best team of 2017.
2018-01-13 16:05
WHAT!!!!
2018-01-13 14:00
FalleN <3
2018-01-13 14:00
HAHAHAH
2018-01-13 14:00
only 6?
2018-01-13 14:00
#26
ScreaM | 
Brazil WWWWWWW 
fallen>dev lol
2018-01-13 14:00
K
2018-01-13 14:01
Nice
2018-01-13 14:01
Rigged
2018-01-13 14:01
#32
 | 
Pakistan pakistaniboss 
ns
2018-01-13 14:01
WTF
2018-01-13 14:01
2018-01-13 14:01
#35
 | 
Netherlands malse_man 
Thorin triggered
2018-01-13 14:01
#157
 | 
Brazil ToTheStarsEZ 
I think he'll be satisfied as device will be put above FalleN
2018-01-13 14:15
Since Elige appeared in the ranking and above k0nfig, Thorin does not say anything else about this weird ranking.
2018-01-13 16:11
#36
 | 
Germany XRippeR 
DEVICE OVERRATED
2018-01-13 14:01
"<3 nip"
2018-01-13 14:02
#79
 | 
Germany XRippeR 
"RELEVANT"
2018-01-13 14:03
Well we want to talk about "overrated" so i thought this is appropriate.
2018-01-13 14:04
#97
 | 
Germany XRippeR 
I didnt overrate nip i just like them i never said f0rest top20 this year for example. You are just another retard in HLTV when teams do good some retard accuse fan to be bandwagon when teams do bad same retard accuses of support that team
2018-01-13 14:05
You are a just another retard that thinks their opinion means more than stats and facts Device > Fallen. Now support nip and hope that they can make into the minor but before that be really quiet.
2018-01-13 14:06
#111
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Germany XRippeR 
no im not gonna be quiet. i dont care what an internet retard says
2018-01-13 14:07
You are more retarded and your opinion is wrong, yet you think that you are smart. Sit down and be quiet
2018-01-13 14:08
#296
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Latvia AntonsMc 
You hope that 100 thieves get into playoffs again.. Oh, wait
2018-01-13 14:52
Nip had a strong qualifier and turned peoples heads ! Wait they didnt make the minor ?
2018-01-13 15:16
#535
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Hong Kong Kpop_is_gay 
it has nothing to do with nip. you cant even argue kid, youre just putting urself in shitty argument. youre just typical hltv boy who's looking for someone's flag or fanboy when it literally doesnt even related lmaooooo kids
2018-01-13 17:33
Im not putting myself into any argument. Since he wants to talk about the word "overrated" i need to point some things out but since he is delusional he still tries to win the argument. And for yourself calling others kids doesnt make you mature. Have a nice day.
2018-01-13 18:08
#558
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Hong Kong Kpop_is_gay 
i thought you were smart but actually not. you cant even argue why device isnt overrated since he was stating the fact that he's overrated. argue first then talk big mouth :D
2018-01-13 18:18
Okay, this dude is elite with every sinlge weapon in the game. When he started to awp his teammates started to set him up and with gla1ve igl'ing they became #1 team in the world for sometime. In 2015 he was mostly an rifler and for half of 2016 an awper and still was #3 both years. Now when he purely was an awper he is top5 and the best match to show his superstar skill is Pgl major quarterfinals. Here but its clear that device is not overrated and is a top 5 player. And your argument was horrible because only thing that you can say that i have a shitty argument which means that you have nothing to counter my thoughts. Be humble and be quiet.
2018-01-13 18:22
#569
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Hong Kong Kpop_is_gay 
-he played less map than fallen, stats dont lie -he always be the last man alive and he's not a guy that you want in clutch situation while fallen did. dont forget fallen is an IGL but since HLTV rank is basically shit since only look at the stats conc :he's good but he's not a player that you wanna see in big pressure. he rarely performs at big pressure like niko.
2018-01-13 18:34
Yes he played less maps but fallen was trash at the start of the year. And if you are talking that device is always last one alive then fallen should be higher than coldzera too.
2018-01-13 18:57
#586
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Hong Kong Kpop_is_gay 
device didnt played in the end of the 2017, thats not equal to fallen who played every tournament in 2017 except ECS ur logic doesnt make any sense because u must be new in CS. fallen rarely last man alive.
2018-01-13 19:22
Well he didnt play at the end but fallen was trash at the start of the year
2018-01-13 20:02
<3 100 Thieves they didnt even play a single match LOL
2018-01-13 14:31
old immortals buddy without steel
2018-01-13 14:42
Not even mad. Fnx still 100 % major winrate
2018-01-13 15:17
device>>>>>>>>>
2018-01-13 15:27
#37
 | 
Poland kajlen 
device higher than fallen? luuuuul hahaha!
2018-01-13 14:01
#38
 | 
Macau fivemorning 
AHAHAH WHAT
2018-01-13 14:01
very good player
2018-01-13 14:01
#40
smooya | 
United Kingdom Jim3110 
ok
2018-01-13 14:01
#41
fer | 
Portugal Draawyy 
WTF
2018-01-13 14:01
I spit on this shitty rating! It should have been rain.
2018-01-13 14:01
#204
 | 
Netherlands ImKuru 
Should’ve been device
2018-01-13 14:27
#277
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Denmark spec7re 
Yea i wouldnt be surprised if retarded hltv puts rain on 5 and device on 4 xd
2018-01-13 14:47
I guess but then rain in the shoes of kennyS.
2018-01-13 15:07
#585
 | 
Netherlands ImKuru 
That would make no sense
2018-01-13 19:19
It would 'cause he's not better than him and he should be #7-8 max.
2018-01-13 19:25
#591
 | 
Netherlands ImKuru 
Rain has been consistent all year, so i’ll have to disagree with you
2018-01-13 19:26
He was just fine throughout the year and his break out happened to be in the end of the year... If that's enough for the spot he's got, excuse but the list is garbage.
2018-01-13 19:29
WHAT?
2018-01-13 14:01
#45
 | 
Malaysia byaIi 
FalleN666
2018-01-13 14:01
Kkk
2018-01-13 14:01
#47
 | 
Brazil gabriezz1 
WHAT ? TOP 6. COMMOM HLTV. COMMON
2018-01-13 14:01
what for? he was getting carried most of the year
2018-01-13 14:02
#124
 | 
Austria lisossomos 
0/8
2018-01-13 14:09
#126
 | 
Brazil gabriezz1 
Yeah, The clutchs statics, opening duels, say this... He only play "badly" in The First 2 months because The Felps addition and he have tô change him play style a bit. But after that he Destroy anyone. Just like ALL SK.
2018-01-13 14:09
#344
device | 
Portugal exhaIe 
common =/= come on
2018-01-13 15:10
but read the post: in several events SK won he was just the fourth best of the team. but he definetely sould be above than device. he is the best IGL of the history.
2018-01-13 16:13
#48
 | 
Russia AyvaN 
Heh
2018-01-13 14:01
#51
 | 
Denmark MeyZ /HZ/ 
Predicted
2018-01-13 14:01
#52
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United Arab Emirates DuncanAK 
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOL Fallen should be at least top #4 .. not fucking 66666 HLTV paid shit
2018-01-13 14:01
#163
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Brazil ToTheStarsEZ 
Top 4 when you play like dogshit for half a year? FalleN overrated LUL
2018-01-13 14:17
#168
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Portugal rayNeen 
Half year? You mean 2 months, and dev1ce isnt playing since september and he deserves better? LUL Nice Logic #Dev1ceOverrated #Dev1ceChoke
2018-01-13 14:20
He stopped playing at the end of november, nice try
2018-01-13 14:34
#235
 | 
Portugal rayNeen 
Ok so... His last tournment was epicenter in october. Nt expected by danish
2018-01-13 14:37
2018-01-13 14:38
#243
 | 
Portugal rayNeen 
Did they pass to the playoffs? xD
2018-01-13 14:39
We are talking about the comment you made earlier " and dev1ce isnt playing since september and he deserves better? " When he stopped playing in mid to late november. He was only missing 1 month in December
2018-01-13 14:40
#251
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Portugal rayNeen 
No, making 2 months now
2018-01-13 14:41
The last game device played was 15 Novemeber, and the last game Astralis played was 17 december. According to math that is not 2 months
2018-01-13 14:42
#264
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Portugal rayNeen 
And so answer me this, how much mvps dev1ce get? How much consistency did he get? How much evps? How much clutchs?
2018-01-13 14:44
One of the most consistent players this year actually, hltv.org/stats/players/events/7592/devic..
2018-01-13 14:46
#278
 | 
Portugal rayNeen 
His consistency its better than fallen yeah, but check fallen NOTABLE STATS i still thinking that he is better than dev1ce this year more mvps and evps so...
2018-01-13 14:47
I mean, there is alot of arguments to say fallen is #5. But there is also alot of arguments to say that device is #5.. So we can't really blame hltv too much. And where are you checking device evps?
2018-01-13 14:50
#246
 | 
Portugal rayNeen 
Still without 2 months playing so still thinking that dev1ce<<<<<<fallen
2018-01-13 14:40
#249
 | 
Brazil vass28 
half year? You obviously did not check the stats, he played worse than he plays in just 2 tournaments, not even bad, and you say dogshit you fucking hater
2018-01-13 14:40
#53
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Europe aNCIOn 
500 comments in 1 minute yikes
2018-01-13 14:01
BEST IN MY HEART
2018-01-13 14:01
#55
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Sweden Dino1 
Seriously? Device>FalleN?? HOW??? Fallen should be 4th or 3rd..
2018-01-13 14:01
no? kenny should be above both fallen and device
2018-01-13 14:02
#191
s1mple | 
Poland Hell2k 
+1 kenny underrated
2018-01-13 14:25
#205
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Sweden Dino1 
Kenny? Hhaha you gotta be trolling lmao
2018-01-13 14:27
he should be above device but not fallen
2018-01-13 14:42
Kennys played half of the maps that Device and FalleN played at big events, he shouldn't be above neither of them
2018-01-13 14:43
#56
STYKO | 
Czech Republic y0fl0w 
Haha top5 bitches
2018-01-13 14:01
#58
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Europe EraXYT 
Number 6? That's surprise wtf
2018-01-13 14:01
#60
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Hungary zbarto 
WHATRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
2018-01-13 14:01
#61
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Turkey lul_pump1 
Unexpected
2018-01-13 14:02
Lol hltv
2018-01-13 14:01
devve will be next
2018-01-13 14:01
#64
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United Kingdom Lightning_DC_ 
I think that's fair
2018-01-13 14:01
Nice quote
2018-01-13 14:01
fallengod
2018-01-13 14:01
#67
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United Kingdom Fizzhaz 
heyheyheyhey
2018-01-13 14:02
#68
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United Kingdom hehexdd 
cold top 1 niko top 2 rain top 3
2018-01-13 14:02
#381
NiKo | 
India Sishir 
Sadly so
2018-01-13 15:23
#410
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Jordan human928 
No cold 1 fer 2
2018-01-13 15:37
wtf shouldve been 3
2018-01-13 14:02
FAULLLEEECHI
2018-01-13 14:02
WTF hltv FalleN is top 4,3,2 no top 6 WTF man
2018-01-13 14:02
A normal top 10 by a brazilian: 1. coldzera 2. fallen 3. fer 4. felps 5. taco 6. boltz 7. hen1 8. lucas1 9. fnx 10. niko
2018-01-13 14:52
no my friend you think totally wrong
2018-01-13 14:53
#470
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Brazil Henriquecha 
Aff
2018-01-13 16:10
#540
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Hong Kong Kpop_is_gay 
typical 12 yo faze fan logic EleGiggle
2018-01-13 17:37
no you are totally wrong the right rank is: 1-cold 2-fallen 3-fer 4-boltz 5-felps 6-hen1 7-taco 8-fnx 9-lucas1 10-kngv
2018-01-13 19:30
#78
s1mple | 
Turkey solfex 
cold niko fer rain device
2018-01-13 14:02
#80
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France SkyDJ22 
Who #5 then ? WHAT IS THIS
2018-01-13 14:03
#88
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Estonia Chaostic 
devve will be 5
2018-01-13 14:04
god <3
2018-01-13 14:03
I somehow agreedest on the ranking so far but Device > Fallen not in fucking ten years. 6: Device 5: Fallen 4: Rain 3: Fer 2: Niko 1: The man, the beast, the myth. WHAT A PLAY!
2018-01-13 14:04
#89
BOOBIE | 
Turkey CHAMPTZ 
rain is gonna be #2, NiKo to be #3 or #4.
2018-01-13 14:04
lol no
2018-01-13 14:10
#95
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Finland jUPPE! 
I agree. This is a joke. HLTV is run by danish people.
2018-01-13 14:05
Rigged and sad
2018-01-13 14:09
"The man, the beast, the myth. WHAT A PLAY!" As expected spiidi.
2018-01-13 14:06
#608
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Brazil Zzigg 
hahahahahahahahahahahahaha +1
2018-01-13 20:10
#84
BOOBIE | 
Turkey CHAMPTZ 
holy.. cold has a potential to not to be the #1 of the year according to the FALLEN's #6 spot.
2018-01-13 14:03
If you really think about it, Fallen wasn't great at the begining of the year, he stats it's not the great, I still would put him as #5, but device is a great player too... think this way, Fallen was able to put 2 player of his team in top 3. Without Fallen's strats, neither Cold and Fer would be top 3.
2018-01-13 14:44
#85
elemeNt | 
Russia G0A1L 
guys,fix photo He got MVP on BPS
2018-01-13 14:03
wtfff underrated
2018-01-13 14:04
#90
f0rest | 
Turkey kadirb 
What? Hltv do u think device was better than FalleN in last year ? What a joke. He must be top5, no doubt.
2018-01-13 14:06
#92
mir | 
El Salvador NotHotMan 
TOILETO HAHAHH AXDDDDDDDDDDDDDD THAT'S SHOWING HOW HLTV RANGKING IS SHIT PASHA TOP 1 EZ
2018-01-13 14:04
1.COLD 2.NIKO 3.FER 4.RAIN 5.DEVICE
2018-01-13 14:04
#121
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Brazil ToTheStarsEZ 
That's the most likely order, unless they put device above rain, which should be a crime. But I can understand it, honestly.
2018-01-13 14:09
imo rain > fer
2018-01-13 16:16
should have been 5. fallen 6. device
2018-01-13 14:09
#94
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China verticalnegi 
Can't believe it... fallen only got No.6
2018-01-13 14:05
Should be lower but ok.
2018-01-13 14:05
major winner and semifinalist > major loser
2018-01-13 15:12
#416
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Brazil assisz 
8 titles + 2 mvp > 2 titles + 0 mvp
2018-01-13 15:40
4 tier1 titles < major, 1 tier1 title and major semi finals
2018-01-13 15:47
#455
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Brazil assisz 
IEM Sydney, ECS S3, ESL Cologne 2017, EPICENTER 2017, BLAST Pro series, ESL pro league s6 > major + iem katowice. Nt iem oakland
2018-01-13 16:01
#98
mixwell | 
Spain Alser 
That's a lotta 1st places Deserved, he had an inconsistent start to the year but really good overall
2018-01-13 14:06
#402
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Norway MustanGle 
The argument of HLTV analyzes only equal stats are speaking ai not glue, so what for the numbers of titles, mvp and evps in the image? you have to consider the set, if you get all HLTV stats from open kills, clutch, flash, suport, awp kills, success in opening duels, etc ... in all stats possible Dev1ce and Fallen compete for positions each wins in a different type, still has the championships expired 9x2, mvps 2x0 EVPS 5 from Fallen ... Fallen played bad at the beginning of the year, Dev1ce did not play at the end of the year..
2018-01-13 15:33
#99
1mpala | 
Ukraine K3KUS 
Lol, unexpectedly
2018-01-13 14:06
BADFALLEN MAKING NOISE <3
2018-01-13 14:06
Wait ...what?
2018-01-13 14:06
i honestly thought he gonna be top 1 LMAO niko gonna be top 1 bet me
2018-01-13 14:06
Not fair. Fallen 6???????? He is the BEST! Fallen #1 BadFallen #2 the rest #3
2018-01-13 14:06
So expected. I don't know why everybody like: "Whaaaaaaaaat?!"
2018-01-13 14:06
WTF
2018-01-13 14:07
#108
s1mple | 
Iceland cy_ro 
expected twofaced
2018-01-13 14:07
#109
mimi | 
Norway NoregNik 
Device top 5 lol..... what a joke...
2018-01-13 14:07
device > fallen ? hmhmhmhmhm
2018-01-13 14:08
Rigged
2018-01-13 14:08
Best overall csgo player in the world IMO, best IGL (which also includes having a leader of men personality to keep his players in check), very intelligent as a player, crazy mechanical skills, one of the best gamesenses out there, consistent and always comes up in the biggest moments when his team needs him. Shame that the start to his year was so bad, he deserved a top3 for two years straight imo
2018-01-13 14:08
yes, he started this year so bad but device literally didn't even play for the last months of this year
2018-01-13 14:09
true lmao, maybe it was because of the major title
2018-01-13 14:10
6 tournament titles > 1 major and 1 tournament title
2018-01-13 14:11
Its hard to affect your stats when you aren't playing, so they'd be slightly more inflated than they should be by the end of the year.
2018-01-13 18:43
HLTV logic: don't play for two months > play poorly for two months.
2018-01-13 16:17
nt hentai
2018-01-13 14:10
finally Brazilians got their deservedly place.. DeviceGOD
2018-01-13 14:08
AT TOP 1 WITH SK, WE NOW =D
2018-01-13 14:23
top1 top3 top6
2018-01-13 14:43
do you really think device was better than fallen in 2017? I really admire device, and I know he owned FalleN on Overpass at Krakow, but what is the point to put on device above Fallen in the whole year?
2018-01-13 16:19
device over fallen lol. I'll laugh so hard if device gets a higher place than rain aswell
2018-01-13 14:08
#289
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Denmark spec7re 
Lol i kinda expect it to happen actually idk i just feel like danish hltv will fuck it even worse
2018-01-13 14:50
#123
Nifty | 
United Kingdom Hende 
lool
2018-01-13 14:08
#130
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Brazil fuNNa 
nice joke
2018-01-13 14:09
que ota
2018-01-13 14:11
Captain FalleN! Brazileiro Legend <3 i love this guy <3 deserved.
2018-01-13 14:10
<3
2018-01-13 14:59
#141
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Other flynttt 
wtf are u doing hltv? LFMAO
2018-01-13 14:11
WTF DEVICE > FALLEN > KENNY fuck you HLTV
2018-01-13 14:11
major winner and semifinalist > major loser
2018-01-13 15:12
#144
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Bolivia MrDD 
dev1 top 5 hahaha , fallen best awp
2018-01-13 14:12
major winner and semifinalist > major loser
2018-01-13 15:13
semifinalist of a shitty major.
2018-01-13 16:19
#145
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Brazil gabriezz1 
HLTV is crazy, they want a EU or NA team in top 1 desperately. They dont support a BR team with top 1 and 2 players. Hahaha Just funny How HLTV came tô this point. ITS sad. Used tô be a Nice site. They need some other sites tô compete.
2018-01-13 14:13
major winner and semifinalist > major loser
2018-01-13 15:13
#367
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Brazil gabriezz1 
8 titles >>>> 2 titles. Best awp and IGL in The world. Cry fangay.
2018-01-13 15:18
#400
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Norway MustanGle 
The argument of HLTV analyzes only equal stats are speaking ai not glue, so what for the numbers of titles, mvp and evps in the image? you have to consider the set, if you get all HLTV stats from open kills, clutch, flash, suport, awp kills, success in opening duels, etc ... in all stats possible Dev1ce and Fallen compete for positions each wins in a different type, still has the championships expired 9x2, mvps 2x0 EVPS 5 from Fallen ... Fallen played bad at the beginning of the year, Dev1ce did not play at the end of the year..
2018-01-13 15:32
#146
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Portugal rayNeen 
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHA WHAT A JOKE DEV1CE>FALLEN HAHAHAHAHHAA OMG
2018-01-13 14:13
major winner and semifinalist > major loser
2018-01-13 15:13
#454
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Portugal rayNeen 
Nice argument nip fan LUL im really excited for NIP winning this major... OH WAIT
2018-01-13 16:00
#147
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Portugal rayNeen 
PLS STOP DOING TOP 20 RANKINGS
2018-01-13 14:13
device>fallen LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
2018-01-13 14:14
#149
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Brazil ftf123 
if we got rain > fer i will riot
2018-01-13 14:14
#291
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Denmark spec7re 
Ahahaha lol Don’t misunderstand it you’re right on your point
2018-01-13 14:51
It's possible.
2018-01-13 14:53
rain is top1 atm so idk
2018-01-13 15:14
device > fallen? Srsly? LOL hltv, comeon.. its not 1st april. Worst ranking since long time ago
2018-01-13 14:14
#177
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Portugal rayNeen 
+1 best joke ever device>fallen ...
2018-01-13 14:21
for real now, device > FalleN : ROFL KEK
2018-01-13 14:14
major winner and semifinalist > major loser
2018-01-13 15:14
fallen 2 straigt major wins, that should make him a god
2018-01-13 15:34
#155
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Bulgaria vectralsoul 
Woah, unexpected... In what world is device > FalleN, this year?! He deserved to be in the top5...
2018-01-13 14:15
#156
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Czech Republic jETFly 
What a shit ranking lol.
2018-01-13 14:15
OMGGGGG u should quit making this site...
2018-01-13 14:15
expected
2018-01-13 14:15
FALLEN>device,rain,fer ... omg
2018-01-13 14:15
#161
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Mongolia WorldArashi 
1. NiKo 2. coldzera 3. dev1ce 4. fer 5. rain Guys what about my prediction ?
2018-01-13 14:16
HAHAHAHA if device really gets top5 hltv even surpassed their stupidity when they put snax into the list. Not gonna talk about Olofmeister and kjaerbye who didnt deserve to be in top20 aswell.
2018-01-13 14:16
#193
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Brazil nomurway 
Hltv is Danish man they will always make something to help the Danish guys hahahaha
2018-01-13 14:26
DEVICE TOP 5? WHAT S WRONG WITH YOU HLTV
2018-01-13 14:17
How is FalleN > kennyS This list is turning into a big meme.
2018-01-13 14:18
#182
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Europe vasseldomau 
Because Fallen 2017 was a Lot better than KennyS
2018-01-13 14:22
because Kennys played 70 maps at big events while Fallen played 137
2018-01-13 14:46
device better than fallen and kenny?AYY LMAO what a shit joke,fallen should have been 3rd for sure,behind cold and niko .best igl and best awper. Knew this top was a joke since i saw elige and oskar so ye xd
2018-01-13 14:18
+11111
2018-01-13 14:26
device won major, fallen didnt
2018-01-13 15:15
#615
Sunde | 
Denmark ZUCC_OP 
kjaerbye and Xypex won that major, while device was holding hands with glaive at the bottomfrag....
2018-01-13 20:34
yeah the first major he played bad at grand final but second major he raped sk in quarter final
2018-01-13 21:28
Rain should be at 8 and Fallen and KennyS above him he si overrated as fuck
2018-01-13 14:19
0.5/8
2018-01-13 15:00
Nt fakeflagger
2018-01-13 15:56
kkkk q tal vc vir aqui e lamber meus eggis ? translate: i love morocco
2018-01-13 15:58
Nice google translator
2018-01-13 15:59
#171
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Brazil YeQiu92 
isso não esta certo
2018-01-13 14:19
This is international site.
2018-01-13 15:15
What ? Fer, Rain and Device >>>> Fallen Really ?
2018-01-13 14:19
Fer maybebut rain and device??????NO WAY
2018-01-13 15:56
#173
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Europe vasseldomau 
Device 2017 >>>>> Fallen????? My God!! This is the bullshit of the year
2018-01-13 14:21
#297
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Denmark spec7re 
This is even better of a joke that elige #11 is EDIT: #12*
2018-01-13 14:52
shit ranking, telling dupreeh's secret in official news this website is getting as w orse as its forum section
2018-01-13 14:20
#371
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CIS eddie42 
what secret?
2018-01-13 15:19
that he will main awp instead of device this major he said : idk when this interview comes out but i want it to be secret till the major hltv : ok cool let's publish it 10 days before
2018-01-13 17:03
#610
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CIS eddie42 
interesting, thanks
2018-01-13 20:16
#175
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Europe treyhard 
hltv r u drunk device>fallen? lul
2018-01-13 14:21
Device top 5... what a joke. But hey, welcome to HLTV!
2018-01-13 14:21
What in the f¨ck is this
2018-01-13 14:22
#179
s1mple | 
Europe RRRo 
Predicted like its nuthin'
2018-01-13 14:22
Deserved top 5 atleast, well done either way.
2018-01-13 14:22
#181
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Brazil Roufas 
Much respect, congratulations Fallen
2018-01-13 14:22
#183
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Portugal tagerR 
WTF
2018-01-13 14:23
Lul dev1ce over FalleN? You gotta be kidding me
2018-01-13 14:23
1. Cold 2. NiKo 3. Fer 4. Rain 5. dev1ce ezpz
2018-01-13 14:23
#186
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Brazil diixon 
Top 1: Coldzera Top 2: NiKo Top 3: Fer Top 4: Rain Top 5: Device Thank me later.
2018-01-13 14:23
#301
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Denmark spec7re 
Its not much of an accomplishment to predict it at this point of time tbh
2018-01-13 14:53
#187
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Bulgaria vectralsoul 
Last year they put device infront of s1mple, which was complete BS. This year they put device infront of FalleN, which is even bigger BS. Where's the common sense, smh...
2018-01-13 14:23
well its not hltv's fault that everyone forgot how shit fallen played in the first half of 2017
2018-01-13 14:54
And how about device being shit during the whole year (not a single MVP and only 2 titles). I mean, sorry, not the whole year since he "got sick" and skipped the last quarter... winning a major should not rank him that high, otherwise Hobbit > device.
2018-01-13 15:08
Lol, how was he shit the entire year? have you seen his event stats? his rating is LITERALLY above 1.00 in EVERY tournament except the last one he played, the one where the sickness really got to him and he has to stay away from it for the rest of the year.
2018-01-13 15:07
1.08 rating, no MVP in 2017, missed a whole quarter, chokes @ important matches (eleague final and pgl major semi), and yet... top 5 player in the World!!! Lets be honest, the guy is a group stage hero.
2018-01-13 15:16
actually hes rated 1.18 which is much different but whatever floats your boat.
2018-01-13 15:17
#516
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Europe HLTV|org 
Toileto talking
2018-01-13 17:15
Btw he didn’t miss “a whole quarter”. You are over exaggerating to try and make your arguments stronger... Device’s last game in 2017 was the 15th of November at IEM Oakland. Astralis’s last match was 17th of December, so he didn’t play for 1 Month - “a quarter” is 3 months
2018-01-14 11:37
#188
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Brazil nomurway 
Wtf really? Device is in better position than him? How? Fallen was better and more impacting the whole year
2018-01-13 14:24
no, you forgot about the first half of the year, which was shit for fallen. His performance overall in the first half was in no way even a top 10 performance.. people should be happy that he was still able to get #6 despite that first half poor performance. if he really was this consistent all year long, then he would have gotten #2
2018-01-13 14:54
#377
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CIS eddie42 
who hurt you buddy
2018-01-13 15:21
#642
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Brazil nomurway 
you are talking like he was bad for 6 months, but he was bad for 2-3 months.
2018-01-14 00:14
Yes and device was good for 10-11 months until he got sick
2018-01-14 11:38
he deserves it
2018-01-13 14:25
wtf chill out my brazilian brothers cold > everyone <3
2018-01-13 14:25
<3
2018-01-13 15:01
#192
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Portugal samf0rd 
Device and Rain over Fallen!? FUCK HLTV
2018-01-13 14:25
#194
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Europe vasseldomau 
Fallen is the opening kills king Awesome riffler, fragger and best IGL in the history 2 MVPs 8 titles Device was good only in the first half 0 MPVs 2 titles Choked on main games of the year for Astralis (Eleague major, Katowice, Blast, Eleague Premiere) Congratulations hltv and your shit ranking!
2018-01-13 14:28
#200
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Brazil J1NX_tv 
indeed!!!!!! +1
2018-01-13 14:27
#201
s1mple | 
Poland Hell2k 
Also kennys 4 mvp abd device higher lol
2018-01-13 14:27
#237
fer | 
Brazil Nickzim 
+1
2018-01-13 14:37
i don't get it.. its like their removed achievements, scraped last 3 months and only used pure rating ( exit fragging ) interesting
2018-01-13 14:39
#254
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Brazil mibrzera 
+1
2018-01-13 14:41
best igls doesnt mean anything. Igls is not a factor in ranking. also # of wins doesnt matter that much in individual skill since its a TEAM game.. also FalleN was completely trash compared to now in the first half of 2017... this is a completle ydifferent fallen. if you take only the sceond half of 2017, then fallen was the #2 player in the world. if you take the first half of 2017, fallen would be like #13 or something...
2018-01-13 14:56
I know that you are an Astralis fan (and a fallen hater), but do you really think that device deserves a top 5 finish in 2017? I mean, i am not saying that he is a bad player, he is great, but i really cant see him above fallen this year.
2018-01-13 15:38
“device was only good in first half” and fallen was only good in second half.
2018-01-13 18:27
#584
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Europe vasseldomau 
5 titles in first half 1 MVP What weed are you smoking?
2018-01-13 19:18
Rating below 1 for the first 4 months of the year; out in groups 2 times because of him; 4th or 5th best player in the team at most events they attended. Two tier 1 titles that he got carried for. What MVP? LOL do you know what first half means? Fanboys lose all brain cells so quickly.
2018-01-13 20:05
WTF??? 6? REALLY? HLTV.JOKE
2018-01-13 14:26
#196
s1mple | 
Poland Hell2k 
Joke ranking Real ranking 1. Cold 2. S1mple 3. Niko 4. Kenny 5. Fer 6. Rain 7. Falllen 8. Noob device
2018-01-13 14:26
nah u can't put s1mple that high, he played half the maps and way less tier 1 events
2018-01-13 14:44
Kenny above Fer, Rain,Fallen and Device? are you drunk m8 Kennys played only 70 maps at big events in 2017, Fallen and Fer played 137 they also won a bunch of events,Device and Rain have 100+ maps at big events too, how can u put Kennys above them? same goes for s1mple, he played like 60 maps at big events and got his rating by playing against tier 2/3 teams since Navi never made far into t1 tourneys.
2018-01-13 14:53
#311
s1mple | 
Poland Hell2k 
Kennys has 4 mvp and higher rating. This is not team ranking. This is player ranking
2018-01-13 14:55
doesn't matter if he has higher rating if he played only half of the maps than other players above him did, who is to say that he would be able to keep his rating if he played the same amount of maps that the top 5 players did? i mean, the more maps you play at big events, means that you're making further into events, so that means that you're facing better competition, teams like SK and FaZe that always make to semi finals/finals are facing better teams because they always play against the other semifinalists/finalists that are also top teams so its harder to keep a good rating.
2018-01-13 14:59
By your extrapolation logic, kenny had way more mvps in fewer maps than them.. it’s not like he was going to lose mvp’s by playing more events. All these other players you claim played way more maps had all the chances in the world to get mvp’s and they couldn’t because they weren’t good enough.
2018-01-13 18:26
way more MVP's? you kidding right? Kennys had 4 MVP's in 2017 from WESG, tier 4 event from DreamHack tours, another tier 2/3 event from ESL Pro League S5, this one is more impressive but still not as impressive since Astralis and FaZe were not in that event. and one from DH Master Malmo, that was the only MVP that he won that had all tier 1 teams this year. "way more MVPs" easy to get them if you're get them from tier 2/3 events, not to mention that Kennys is the star player in his team, where for instance at SK fallen has Coldzera and Fer, so its way harder for him to get MVP's when there's 2 star players that are competing with him
2018-01-14 02:22
Those teams failing to qualify are definitely the other teams’ fault. Still more MVPs in fewer maps than fer/rain/fallen/device despite the excuses. It’s also way harder to get MVPs when you have a rating below 1 for half the year like fallen did, but anything that makes you sleep at night lul.
2018-01-14 03:04
you talk like Kennys had much better rating than fallen, lmao, Kennys had 1.16 rating while Fallen had 1.13 the difference is that Fallen was playing all the tier 1 tourneys and making far into them, while Kennys was playing DH Tours and WESG to boost his rating. also FalleN is the third best player in the world at opening kills as you can see here hltv.org/stats/players/openingkills?star..
2018-01-14 03:04
no i’m talking line kenny wasn’t shit for half the year. no other player in the top 10 has had as many statistically shit tournaments as fallen. now you’re talking about opening kills, keep moving goalposts to soothe your fanboy mind lul.
2018-01-14 03:07
"no i’m talking line kenny wasn’t shit for half the year. no other player in the top 10 has had as many statistically shit tournaments as fallen." are you retarded dude? Fallen had 3 negative ratings out of 16 big events that he played in 2017 and ofc that i'm talking about opening kills since opening kills have HUGE impact in csgo
2018-01-14 03:11
“are you retarded dude? Fallen had 3 negative ratings out of 16 big events that he played in 2017” ....... Which is more and will be more than every other player in the top 10 bar maybe guardian (who also doesn’t deserve his placing ironically) So I repeat: “no other player in the top 10 has had as many statistically shit tournaments as fallen” Are you trying to be illiterate or does it just come naturally? “and ofc that i'm talking about opening kills since opening kills have HUGE impact in csgo” Ignoring the god-awful English, by those standards, cold is not a top 10 player..? You are by far the dumbest person i’ve seen on this site. Stop digging a hole trying to justify your fanboyism, it’s embarrassing.
2018-01-14 06:00
"no other player in the top 10 has had as many statistically shit tournaments as fallen” Kennys played 6 big events less than fallen and Kennys has 2 negative ratings. "Ignoring the god-awful English, by those standards, cold is not a top 10 player..?" lol you're actually dumb, cold doesn't play as main AWP, if you had more than 100 hours on csgo you would know that the best AWP players are the ones that can get the highest amount of opening kills and that opening kills have a huge impact at rounds, that's why Fallen, Guardian and Kennys are all up there when it comes to opening kills even tho they are not entry fraggers. btw you said that im trying to justify my fanboyism, but you're actually the one doing it, remember, im not the one saying that Kennys should be above Fallen, and if we follow your logic that Kennys was better than fallen then why hltv ranked fallen above kenny? does that mean that hltv admins are also fanboying?
2018-01-14 12:48
Errr, no. You said Kenny’s stats were less impressive because he played fewer maps; I simply pointed out the flaw in your logic because getting more MVPs in fewer maps isn’t less impressive, it’s more impressive. I know why cold doesn’t have as many opening frags. Again, you’re the one contradicting yourself about how important this stat is, just so that you can give fallen more recognition, yet the best player in the world is below average in the stat. HLTV ranked Fallen so highly because his team won 8 events. Simple. It has almost nothing to do with his individual performance. So no HLTV isn’t fanboying, because they’ve been clear about how much team performance affects the rating. You are fanboying because you keep trying to justify Fallen’s position through his individual statistics which makes zero sense. But keep trying. The fact that you fail to understand satire or realise when someone is using your own arguments against you, just shows how retarded your arguments are because you’re arguing with your own opinions. As I said, embarrassing... but keep going, it’s entertaining.
2018-01-14 19:06
" I simply pointed out the flaw in your logic because getting more MVPs in fewer maps isn’t less impressive, it’s more impressive." and that's where you're wrong again, when we put into context the events that he got MVP you realize that 3 out of 4 of his MVPs were from t2 events. "HLTV ranked Fallen so highly because his team won 8 events. " following your retarded logic taco would be a top 10 player, and he wasn't even top 20. and no you're not using my arguments against me, you're just too dumb to understand my arguments, you don't even understand players roles in the game, there's no point in arguing with you.
2018-01-14 20:15
esl pro league 750k prize pool is a t2 event lmao, you’re so delusional hahahahahahahaha and BLAST is a T1 event right? hahahahahaha TACO is in the top 20 in spirit, you just misunderstand his role. cold could not be the best player in the world if he wasn’t baiting taco every round, but you tried. You have the IQ of a rice grain. Keep telling yourself a player with the highest number of <1 impact tournaments in the top 20 deserves top 6 as you cry over your fallen pillowcase.
2018-01-14 22:28
"esl pro league 750k prize pool is a t2 event lmao, you’re so delusional hahahahahahahaha" you're so dumb that you think that prizepool is what makes an event tier 1, by you retarded logic WESG was a tier 1 event since it had 1.5 mil prizepool, FaZe and Astralis were not at ESL PRO League, two of the top 3 teams were not there. meanwhile blast pro series had all the top teams, so i would call it a t1 event for sure. there's no point arguing with a retard that thinks that prizepool makes a tournament tier 1, go check WESG liquipedia.net/counterstrike/World_Elect.. 1.5 MIL prize pool filled with shit tier 2/3 teams, and guess what? Kennys got one his "MVPs" there. btw i just proved that your argument is bullshit, if team achivements were what placed fallen so high like you said then Taco would be at the top 20 too.
2018-01-14 22:34
EsL had every team, they just failed to qualify for the final. A 6 team single elim showcase series like blast is a real t1 event dude lmao, esp with stand-ins hahaha You realise ESL one Cologne had no Astralis either, right? Is that a T2 event? Retard. Keep trying. You’re the one who said fallen is higher than simple and kenny because he played more rounds at big events idiot. By that logic, taco should be higher than kenny and simple too. Again, you fail to understand sarcasm and that it’s your own argument you’re disagreeing with.
2018-01-14 22:42
for fuckin sake dude, how can you not understand that the amount of events/maps that you play matters? FalleN played WAY more maps than S1mple and KennyS and his rating was still almost the same as Kennys got, what your peanut brain can't undestand is that fallen got 1.13 rating while making far into every tourney and facing better competition, because the further a team makes into events the harder the competition gets, while Kennys and s1mple almost never made far into tier 1 events so they were not facing the same level of competition that SK,FaZe and Astralis players were. Taco isn't there because even tho he played more events, he still one of the WORST pro players in the top 5 teams. taco not being there should make it clear for you that winning events has nothing to do with being placed at top 20, because taco won a bunch of events with his team in 2017 and isn't even on the top 20, so if a player is on the top 20 is because of their individual skill not because of their team, how hard is for you to understand that cunt?
2018-01-14 22:49
lmao how mad are you. made it far in every tourny = knocked out of group stage twice because fallen was so bad good all year = negative rating for first 5 months of year. keep crying dude hahaha
2018-01-14 22:54
3 negative ratings out of 16 big events, show me any other player in the top 20 that played 16 big events in 2017 and only had 3 negative rating while ingame leading, you can't. and i was actually the one using your argument against you, you said that fallen is at 6 because of his team achievments not because of his skill, but if that's true then where the fuck is taco Kennys fanboy taking into account MVP's at tier 3 events and saying that prizepool is what makes an event tier 1, haha you're so fuckin dumb, by your retarded logic if a player plays 3 events the entire year and gets a rating of 1.20 he should be ranked higher than the player that played 20 events and got a rating of 1.15, you're braindead dude for real.
2018-01-14 22:59
I can’t show you that because everyone else had less than 3 :D It’s not the prizepool that makes ESL tier 1 idiot, it’s the fact that every team in the world has the chance to qualify. According to you, fallen has ZERO tier 1 mvp’s so good argument lmao. Your tears are delicious. Me saying fallen doesn’t deserve top 6 = kenny fanboy hahahaha, you’re really reaching now dude. Just admit you have a fallen pillowcase and run along now.
2018-01-14 23:26
evyrone else has less than 3? LMAO you're so fuckin dumb dude, you don't even know what you're talking about, lets take AdreN as example here, he played 7 big events in 2017 had a positive rating in 3 of them and negative rating in 4 of them hltv.org/stats/players/events/334/AdreN?.. he had a negative rating in more than half of the events that he played, see how i keep proving you wrong dude? 3 out of 16 is a small amount compared to players that played way less big events and still had negative ratings at two or three events. blast pro series had 5 out of the top 5 teams ESL Cologne had 4 out of the top 5 teams meanwhile ESL PL only had 2 out of the top 5. not even goin to talk about DreamHack tours and WESG, both tier 3 events, like i said the only legit MVP that Kennys won was at DH Masters
2018-01-14 23:52
you said played 16 big events? adren didn’t play 16? show me another player in the top 10 that had as many stats in red as fallen did this year, you can’t. BLAST was a gimmicky showcase event with a terrible format. It had 6 teams and astralis had a stand in. To win the tournament, you needed to win one best of 3, LOL. Everything else was best of 1. In no universe is that a tier 1 tournament. Again, it was your argument that Astralis not being there meant it wasn’t tier 1, not mine. Or are you saying Fallen can’t perform when dev1ce attends tournaments? lul. But if you want to be technical, SK had to play two non-top5 teams in best of 3s to win event. ESL PL *Finals* had 3 out of the top 5 and G2 beat them all in best of 3s unlike certain other teams lul. ESL PL had 30 of the top 30 teams. They had every chance to qualify for finals and failed, they were still part of the event. Keep trying, keep failing.
2018-01-15 01:06
"you said played 16 big events? adren didn’t play 16?" yea retard, adren only played 7 and had 4 negative ratings, that means he had negative ratings at 57% of the events that he attended, Fallen played 16 big events and had 3 negative ratings, that means he had negative ratings at 18% of the events that he attended now Kennys played 11 big events and had 2 negative ratings that means he had negative ratings at 18% of the events that he played, same as fallen, i know that you didn't learn basic math at school but i'm glad that i can help you now.
2018-01-15 05:44
Making comments about education when 20 replies later, you still aren’t able to detect sarcasm is probably the funniest part of your performance so far. Keep going lmao; I also love how you conveniently ignored everything else :D
2018-01-15 12:31
i didn't ignore everything else, i talked about these things earlier but you keep repeating the same things like a retard, so there's no point, about ESL PL, it was an online qualifier, the fact is that Astralis top 3 and FaZe top 2 at the time were not there. i already proved that your argument that fallen is the one that had the highest amount of red ratings in the top 10 is bullshit, if you learned percentage at school you would know that, if a player played 20 events and has 3 red ratings, doesn't mean that he was worse than the player that plaeyed 10 events and had 2 red ratings, any person with half a brain would know that.
2018-01-15 16:34
Wrong again. Keep trying, keep failing. ----------- “are you retarded dude? Fallen had 3 negative ratings out of 16 big events that he played in 2017” ....... Which is more and will be more than every other player in the top 10 bar maybe guardian (who also doesn’t deserve his placing ironically) So I repeat: “no other player in the top 10 has had as many statistically shit tournaments as fallen” ------------- Top 10 2017 so far: Dupreeh 15 events, 7 red numbers in his table. (0.47 red numbers per event) Guardian 16 events, 22 red numbers in his table. (1.38 red numbers per event) S1mple 12 events, 4 red numbers in his table. (0.33 red numbers per event) KennyS 14 events, 9 red numbers in his table. (0.64 red numbers per event) Fallen 19 events, 22 red numbers in his table. (1.16 red numbers per event) Device 12 events, 3 red numbers in his table. (0.25 red numbers per event) Rain 16 events, 11 red numbers in his table. (0.69 red numbers per event) Device > Simple > Dupreeh > Kenny > Rain > Fallen > Guardian. As I said, show me another player in the top 10 that had as many stats in red as fallen did this year, you can’t [bar guardian (who also doesn’t deserve his placing ironically)]. As much as your autism is very entertaining, it's no longer the weekend and it's time to go back to work. I hope you enjoy crying over your fallen pillowcase some more in your mother's basement.
2018-01-15 20:20
lol fuckin retard, FalleN played more big events than everybody else of course that he is goin to have more red ratings, like i said you need to learn basic math, go back to school and learn %
2018-01-18 13:06
#197
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Brazil J1NX_tv 
you gotta be kidding me, he's at least top 5, fucking shit list
2018-01-13 14:26
NO way this is real. how? Fallen should 100% be in top 3. 1) Amazing awper and is really consistent with it and is in some people’s eyes the best awper in the world. 2) Probably the best IGL in the world right now and has helped sk win so many trophies in 2017.
2018-01-13 14:26
#202
JW | 
Turkey RivS99 
Realy
2018-01-13 14:27
ez deviceMONSTER > fallen as expected
2018-01-13 14:27
#308
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Denmark spec7re 
< Reply needs to have actual content
2018-01-13 14:55
for me : 1) Coldzera 2) Niko 3) fer 4) FalleN 5) dev1ce 6) rain 7) KennyS
2018-01-13 14:28
#286
s1mple | 
Poland Hell2k 
Device top5 lel not even top 10
2018-01-13 14:49
Rain is a monster compared to Niko though..
2018-01-13 15:26
#208
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Israel sNuiik 
Most be atleast 3 shame hltv
2018-01-13 14:28
choker devve is higher than papa fallen? this rating system needs some huge adjustments
2018-01-13 14:28
i mean when i saw Elige at top 12 and Adren top 19... i knew it was just rediculous
2018-01-13 14:33
how many majors fallen has won this year?
2018-01-13 15:08
9 finals, 8 trophies... Maybe you're just overthinking about 2 tournaments ;s
2018-01-14 03:35
#210
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Poland Marcines 
wow device so high again he is rly overrated
2018-01-13 14:29
#616
Sunde | 
Denmark ZUCC_OP 
Most overrated player in history of cs... But it's danish site after all...
2018-01-13 20:36
First thank you for your contribution! He is a very very very big player and a bigger IGL! I hope you have a very big day! -VeryBigGuy p.s. I also hope that you have a very big major!
2018-01-13 14:29
fallen stop blowing my mind
2018-01-13 14:29
Unfair. It deserved a top2, because the coldzera is the top1 He is the best igl and the best awp. it's almost impossible to find an igl with great skills and he has these great skills
2018-01-13 14:30
What the fuck Does Device even got any MVPS?
2018-01-13 14:32
nope, his exit fragging and hospital stay was enough
2018-01-13 14:45
#226
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Norway insy 
So device, rain, ferMONKEY, NiKo and cold?
2018-01-13 14:33
#230
fer | 
Brazil Nickzim 
The guy is the best IGL of the world, won two MVPs, six EVPs and eight tournaments in a year and they put him behing device, that won one MVP, two tournaments in the entire year and disputed almost the half of tournaments than fallen. Are you guys fuckin serious?
2018-01-13 14:34
I lost my respect for this HLTV Ranking. If they put Device or KennyS in top5, we all will know this site is really dirty. Sorry, but that's my humble point of view.
2018-01-13 14:35
kennys #7
2018-01-14 14:05
Oh, thanks.
2018-01-14 17:59
#232
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Brazil vass28 
what a fucking joke! device is good, but fallen is much better, he deserved top 4 at least LEGEND
2018-01-13 14:35
#518
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Europe HLTV|org 
device good but not best (cold best)
2018-01-13 17:17
#233
FalleN | 
Brazil bcorte 
"We chose Fallen as #6 because he was #5 player in everything"... good job hltv
2018-01-13 14:36
#238
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United Kingdom trtr098 
EU maths
2018-01-13 14:37
#318
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Denmark spec7re 
Its probably to make device smile in the hospital bed lul
2018-01-13 14:57
#6? lmao
2018-01-13 14:36
device is top 3 of the world i bet
2018-01-13 14:37
#239
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CIS sergioff 
expected
2018-01-13 14:37
#241
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Brazil mibrzera 
worst ranking ever
2018-01-13 14:38
device is higher and only played 10 months out of the year
2018-01-13 14:39
#247
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Brazil prkz0r 
FALL6N Top #1 in our hearts!
2018-01-13 14:40
#248
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Venezuela RetrybuterZ 
Fer top5 confirmed and cold top 2
2018-01-13 14:40
#252
boltz | 
Brazil fcellos 
1. Coldzera 2. Niko 3. Rain 4. Fer 5. Device
2018-01-13 14:41
#255
yeL | 
United Kingdom JME_ 
Device dodged more LANs than jOELZ ffs and is going to be ahead of FalleN
2018-01-13 14:41
He’s right, even if I don’t like the whole SK, fallen was just better and he preformed well through the whole year while device was inactive in the end of 2017
2018-01-13 14:42
#258
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Brazil SK_SENSUS 
Omg, shit lista!!!! No taco again???? Fallen #6???? OMG HLTV, WHAT ARE U DOING???
2018-01-13 14:42
TACO TOP #5 POGGERS
2018-01-13 17:46
godfallen <33
2018-01-13 14:43
"filling the holes we need him to complete us." KappaPride
2018-01-13 14:43
#268
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Australia closet 
what planet is hltv on to think device ranks higher than fallen ???
2018-01-13 14:44
How it is possible? How device can be better then fallen... omfg
2018-01-13 14:44
#273
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Ukraine Vindmax  
HLTV prank that gone so far
2018-01-13 14:45
#279
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United Kingdom HarryBotter 
Device higher than FalleN wtf
2018-01-13 14:47
lol falken 2 mvps 8 titles kennys 4 mvps and device 0 mvps 2 titles and still gets a higher ranking than them at this point hltv is counting just major wins for the top fucking joke ranking
2018-01-13 14:48
#499
gla1ve | 
Europe catre 
Kennys choke on the Major and Fallen played bad in the first 4 month of the year and also after PGL major untill Epicenter, The reason Device on top 5 is he is very consistent and played well on Major :v
2018-01-13 16:44
#281
s1mple | 
Poland Hell2k 
Some people wanted fallen top 2 or top 3 and cry now lul
2018-01-13 14:48
#284
FalleN | 
Austria Arezcs 
wow device just made top5 with 0 mvps, guess mvps actually don't mean shit then
2018-01-13 14:49
LOL should've been 2 or ATLEAST 3.
2018-01-13 14:49
#288
s1mple | 
Poland Hell2k 
No he should be top 1 cuz he is igl a d the best awper in the world kappa
2018-01-13 14:50
This is funny. :DD And no highlights from @FalleN?? :D
2018-01-13 14:51
#303
FalleN | 
France nyygma 
EZ
2018-01-13 14:54
#305
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Czech Republic Kravicka 
f0rest top5 nice
2018-01-13 14:54
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
2018-01-13 14:59
#307
s1 | 
Armenia gr1nch 
who?
2018-01-13 14:55
" If you’re not ready to lose, you’ll never be prepared to be a champion. " by FALLEN.
2018-01-13 14:55
probably the first appropriate ranking so far lmao
2018-01-13 14:55
#314
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Europe keNLey94 
nice fallen!
2018-01-13 14:56
hltv is at Disney
2018-01-13 14:56
#316
trk | 
Brazil Romarioek 
kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk só pode ser piada da HLTV
2018-01-13 14:56
considering how fucked up this list has been im pretty sure device will be nr1 and rain wont even be there
2018-01-13 14:57
#324
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Brazil EnzoAirezZ 
FalleN>>>>>kennyS>>>>>>Dev1ce WTF DEV1CE top 5 ._.
2018-01-13 14:59
Badfollen
2018-01-13 15:00
#329
draken | 
Europe zwhR 
Fallen top 2 lullll
2018-01-13 15:01
#331
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Poland crouzzz 
Whaaaaaaaaaaat
2018-01-13 15:02
Looking at the stats now, I changed my mind and think Fallen deserved #6 over kennyS. Now everybody just need to chill, if device is higher then he deserved it aswell. HLTV has the most unbiased rankings in csgo world, so no need to get mad.
2018-01-13 15:02
#338
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Europe vasseldomau 
Fallen 2017>>>>>>>>>>>>KennyS>>Device
2018-01-13 15:06
Let's wait till tomorrow, so we can see the stats and why hltv picked him over Fallen.
2018-01-13 15:11
BRAZ7L XDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXD
2018-01-13 15:03
Underrated. It seems that they are just watching numbers who is where. Gotta remember that he basically runs the SK team and IGL - and still puts numbers to reach top 6. TOP1 in my books. -ThereYet
2018-01-13 15:04
Should be TOP 3
2018-01-13 15:05
maybe should be above device but its ok, happy from ma boi you are top 1 from us fallen
2018-01-13 15:06
ROFL, Are you kidding hltv.org ? you are in the drug. FalleN probability, certainly top 3
2018-01-13 15:10
Bullshit
2018-01-13 15:11
Much love for this guy, such a nice person
2018-01-13 15:11
like wtf is this. danish fucking website and every fucking year keeps putting device in top3-5. he fucking sucks bro.
2018-01-13 15:11
+1
2018-01-13 16:54
#355
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France dans03 
Realy rofltop
2018-01-13 15:13
#358
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Norway MustanGle 
Wtf? Fallen >>>>>>>> dev1ce
2018-01-13 15:14
Fallen should be my boyfriend
2018-01-13 15:18
#368
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Portugal dracø 
How is fallen not in the top5??? Cmon hltv, be srs
2018-01-13 15:18
Hahaha, HLTV is a joke.
2018-01-13 15:19
FUCKING OUTRAGEOUS! HOW IS THIS EVEN POSSIBLE?! UNBELIEVABLE
2018-01-13 15:19
maybe because players like Cold and Rain are better?
2018-01-13 15:26
I know, but 6th?! hltv better have a dank top 5 (likely coldzera, NiKo, fer, rain and I don't know) because excluding kennyS and FalleN from the Top 5 is unacceptable unless they have a better 5th best player pick And somehow? I feel like it's going to be device
2018-01-13 15:32
#374
NiKo | 
India Sishir 
S1mple>Fallen individually. Hltv fucking joke.
2018-01-13 15:20
#375
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Brazil inc_eax 
It is sixth in the hltv ranking, but first in my heart.
2018-01-13 15:20
#5 rain #4 fer #3 device #2niko #1 coldzera hltv confirmed
2018-01-13 15:22
#383
NiKo | 
India Sishir 
Lol no
2018-01-13 15:24
Its confirmed leaked on wikipedia
2018-01-13 15:57
#379
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Brazil Jaoh2 
WTF
2018-01-13 15:22
#382
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Poland JoinTheGame 
haha wtf
2018-01-13 15:24
#385
NiKo | 
India Sishir 
So. 1/2. Cold 1/2. Niko 3. Rain 4. Fer 5. Dev1ce
2018-01-13 15:25
1) Cold 2) Rain 3) Niko
2018-01-13 15:25
Expected
2018-01-13 15:26
Thorin rankings lmaoooo
2018-01-13 15:26
#393
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Finland ginbay 
"One of the main reasons FalleN is ranked this high is because of his outstanding performances in playoffs at big events" Haha this guy really should been on #1. Being great igl and great individual player isn't easy. Even tho I hate brazils jumping here thinkning sk is brazil are dumb af. Respect for fallen tho for not putting that mnky shit and being international with proper English etc.. and seems like a nice guy that wants to help. Feels like an opposite of Brazillian.
2018-01-13 15:28
You look like a ''brazillian'' making generalizations and trash talking
2018-01-13 20:07
Is Fallen the only one IGL who made it to top10? even top20 I believe
2018-01-13 15:29
#403
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Estonia Chaostic 
Snax (for most of the year) Adren
2018-01-13 15:33
Adren was IGL like for 2 months? or something same goes to Snax
2018-01-13 15:36
HLTV rankings are irrelevant at this point lol. What a joke! Fallen should have been at least 4th. 1-Cold 2-NiKo 3-Fer 4-Rain 5-Device
2018-01-13 15:31
#406
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Portugal RafaKimi 
Not even hltv gives credit for everything he does in the team... People talk about Cold but without fallen Sk wouldnt be such a great team. No one seems to consider the tactics he gives and how he calls. In my opinion he is the most important in Sk, just like glaive in Astralis
2018-01-13 15:35
hltv.JOKE
2018-01-13 15:32
#401
fox | 
Portugal PMourao 
6TH?! It's gotta be a joke...
2018-01-13 15:32
#405
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Brazil BuddyINSANE 
Gratz my brother <3 We smart, we loyal, we friendly, we are from BRAZIL! Kreygasm
2018-01-13 15:34
#409
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Portugal Mutiris 
what a joke?... device>Fallen... Fallen win this year multiple events with great performace... device wins 1 major and stop playing last month...
2018-01-13 15:36
#411
rain | 
Chile nachooww 
what? fallen was top 2 or 3 but not top 6
2018-01-13 15:37
#412
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Denmark LUL69xD 
Expected
2018-01-13 15:37
#417
csr | 
Brazil Blazzze 
Device>Fallen vcs só podem estar de sacanagem né HLTV do meu cú
2018-01-13 15:41
#421
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Russia SH1RO1769 
well deserved
2018-01-13 15:44
#422
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Brazil Suk_Mik_Hok 
Besides being a world class player he is a nice dude too, congratulations Fallen
2018-01-13 15:44
#424
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Brazil assisz 
dev1ce > FalleN and kennyS? nt danish site
2018-01-13 15:44
#433
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Brazil guihqrz 
né isso po, eu to sem acreditar, top 5 era pra ser sk e faze. 5 - rain 4 - fallen 3 - fer 2 - niko 1 - cold
2018-01-13 15:48
#456
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Brazil assisz 
For sure...
2018-01-13 16:02
top1-2 is top6.. fallen top1 for me, no dout <<33 sk gaming
2018-01-13 15:46
#429
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Canada LongBaguette 
Device in 2018 lul
2018-01-13 15:47
#432
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United States nANDO111 
hahaha devve pay to be in top5 :) Real top5 cold rain fer niko fallen
2018-01-13 15:47
Dunno about that list but top 5 should be #1 cold, and fer/rain/niko/fallen in some kind of order regardless. Not Device.
2018-01-13 17:31
#437
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Brazil renatofrd 
1-Taco 2- Coldzera 3-NiKo 4-Fer 5-Rain
2018-01-13 15:54
#439
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Canada Overdoer35 
The top 5 is so simple to find out: 1: Coldzera 2: Niko 3: Fer/Rain 4:Fer/Rain 5:Dev1ce
2018-01-13 15:56
divece>fallen no doubt
2018-01-13 15:58
hltv.org/stats/players?startDate=2017-01.. sorry guys, fallen dont deserve in best position. against facts there r no arguments
2018-01-13 15:59
"be the best your team needs, not the best that you think you have to be." +rep 1 fallen
2018-01-13 16:02
Where is the ESL ONE NEW YORK EVP???
2018-01-13 16:04
undeserved af
2018-01-13 16:04
#465
NiKo | 
Portugal kyzzj 
i dont see a reason why kennyS and device will, most likely, get better ranking than badFallen
2018-01-13 16:05
#468
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Ukraine ahl92 
best cap
2018-01-13 16:09
too many BR fanboys on HLTV
2018-01-13 16:09
lul na too many HLTV people are up EU trash players buttholes fallen is #2 and cold is #1 faze is garbage. HLTV is clueless
2018-01-13 16:16
1. cold 2. niko 3. rain 4. fer 5. device ??? sometimes hltv makes no sense
2018-01-13 16:19
I'm still awaiting someone explains the reason why device was better than fallen in 2017.
2018-01-13 16:21
+1 device fucking rekted the whole SK team in these matches
2018-01-13 16:42
"[...] his poor performance at the beginning of the year affected his overall consistency compared to other players, leaving him just outside the top five on our ranking".
2018-01-13 16:26
3 below average lans all year. He was consistent.
2018-01-13 17:29
lol fallen >> device
2018-01-13 16:26
#487
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Finland jayss 
device wasn't even the best player in his team, but somehow he manages to make it to top 5
2018-01-13 16:27
#488
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Brazil LeFt_SiX 
Ridiculous !!!
2018-01-13 16:28
#489
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Venezuela BOBSENSEi 
wtf
2018-01-13 16:29
#490
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France OH_OldTeam 
NO 6?RLY??
2018-01-13 16:29
lol device top 5 better than fallen LUL what a joke
2018-01-13 16:30
HAHAHAHAHA! Device being higher than Fallen when didn't he play 2 or 3 events because of injury. HLTV LUL! 1575 AWP Kills, 0.60 DPR, 59 clutches, 61% success rate in opening duels. What a beast! KennyS may have better aim, but Fallen has better brain that's why he's the best AWPer and IGL. Good job, Papa Wallen!
2018-01-13 16:32
Tá na Disney?
2018-01-13 16:33
#495
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Brazil zptz 
dev1ce above kennys and fallen fucking overrated
2018-01-13 16:39
#496
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Brazil MommyStealer 
dev1ce overrated every year :(
2018-01-13 16:39
fallen should be top18 or something
2018-01-13 16:41
Fallen should OBVIOUSLY be fighting fer and rain for the top 3. Device > fallen is a bad joke. HLTV is pure dog shit.
2018-01-13 16:47
This thread just shows how narrow minded people are. This ranking is based around a whole year, not the past 2 months...
2018-01-13 16:53
#507
God | 
Russia STDGod 
FalleN should be top5 and KennyS top4.
2018-01-13 16:56
#510
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Sweden TDK Em1L 
"I saw a bit of the level chelo reached at the end of 2017, and I think he has potential to become a great player. There are many talented players who can be in the ranking next year, but here’s a tip for everyone: be the best your team needs, not the best that you think you have to be. Good luck!" SOOO TWOFACED! But a nice pick from mr fallen.
2018-01-13 16:59
#514
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Japan BodeFuceta 
Expected from HLTV. They wouldn't put 3 brazilian players from the same team in the top 5. It'd cause a meltdown in the likes of racist Thorin and others.
2018-01-13 17:10
#515
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United States Venom_ 
1. TaZ 2. Cold 3. NiKo 4. Rain 5. Ropz
2018-01-13 17:15
#517
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United States Venom_ 
maybe zews will be 1 who knows
2018-01-13 17:15
deserved
2018-01-13 17:20
#520
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Brazil cadik 
lost all respect i had for HLTV
2018-01-13 17:20
fanboy autista não defeca, num era pra ele ta nem na frente do kennys
2018-01-13 17:30
#554
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Brazil picheno 
+1
2018-01-13 18:09
ridiculous...
2018-01-13 17:25
#524
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Latvia Tibro 
gg fallen lmao
2018-01-13 17:27
Just looking at the stats and achievements top 6 doesn't make sense, it should be higher. And he had, what only 3 below average lan performances throughout 2017? It's not that he wasn't consistent.
2018-01-13 17:27
Also, Fallen > KennyS > Device.
2018-01-13 17:28
#528
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Switzerland pazzo0 
Are u kidding me hltv? the best awper and in game leader of the world is not better than Device? lul
2018-01-13 17:28
WORST DAY FOR BRAZIL TODAY
2018-01-13 17:29
#560
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Brazil R_ananias 
Nah. Still 2 Brazilians to show up in top 5.
2018-01-13 18:21
gg what a delusional ranking
2018-01-13 17:33
6? Kkkkkkkkkkk Worst rank ever , fallen deserves at least top 3
2018-01-13 17:36
#537
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Brazil Collee 
I'd put him over device considering he's igl with these stats, he's not too far behind individually
2018-01-13 17:36
only the stats count here on the site, of 9 championships was victorious in 8, cold and fer assumed that they only won because of the calls of their captain, responsible for the victory in 8 championships ... my doubt was between the 1st and the second place.
2018-01-13 17:36
HAHAHAHAHHA WHAT is this LOL this list is a fucking JOKE LMFAO
2018-01-13 17:41
kennyS > FalleN > Device hltv is crazy
2018-01-13 17:47
device rating: 1.18 fallen rating: 1.13 device major rating: 1.24 fallen major rating: 1.04 device major maps: 22 fallen major maps: 15 (LOL less than dennis who doesn't even play csgo XD) device major champion: [X] fallen major champion: [ ]
2018-01-13 18:13
fallen titles: 8 mvp: 2 device titles: 2 mvp: 0 hltv is from denmark obvious they will scale device above fallen.... hltv lost my respect
2018-01-13 22:46
device major champion, much higher rating and more evp's you're from brazil obvious you will scale fallen above device.... brazil never had my respect
2018-01-13 23:10
Even the most retarded guy knows that fallen was a way better than him in 2017, a lot of pro players said that fallen deserves top 1, who are you to say that... u cant fight against facts hltv logic = not playing for two months > two bad months / 1 match owned = 1 rank above (overpass)... and device above kennys is another joke say hi to african teams, ups i dont know if exists a single one
2018-01-15 08:07
you don't deserve top 1 with 1.04 major rating LOL gtfo fanboy, you're clearly biased and your opinion is trash
2018-01-15 15:46
#546
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Japan Menedreal 
First bad half year did this 1.13 He can 1.15 minimal
2018-01-13 17:50
Top 3 is Cold, Niko and Rain, only 4 and 5 left, I bet Fer is one of them. I thought Fallen would be way higher because of IGL impact in the year.
2018-01-13 17:51
#550
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Brazil Charizaldo 
terrible joke hltv
2018-01-13 18:05
#553
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Brazil picheno 
6? HAHHAHAHAHAHHAH WTF JOKE HLTV
2018-01-13 18:08
LOL unexpected to lower
2018-01-13 18:16
4th or 5th best player in his team at half the events he played and hltv thinks he’s top 6 because his team won events lul. The only thing more farcical than Fallen being top 6 is dev1ce being top 5.
2018-01-13 18:18
fallen looks like you have fallen
2018-01-13 18:20
What the hell ? How is device in front of FalleN ? FalleN has been in so many finals while Astralis... Not that much ? Also device didn't attend the last tournaments of 2017. I don't get it.
2018-01-13 18:27
#570
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Brazil hugoooo 
The ONLY logical reason to put FalleN behind device in 2017 is the fact that he sucked hard on the beginning of the year. static.hltv.org/images/galleries/1693-me.. From summit onward, he was top 4 material.
2018-01-13 18:35
yeah but device completely outplayed him for a good period, same reason Cold > NiKo, cuz NiKo sucks vs Cold, And device is really good vs Fallen. Playstyles.
2018-01-13 19:09
#589
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Brazil hugoooo 
Do you ACTUALLY believe anyone cares about how player X did specifically vs player Y during the entire year, to make this top 20 ranking?! That's nonsense, it doesn't matter at all. What matters are the whole year performance, it doesn't matter how you did on your aim duels vs HUNDEN or f0rest for example lol
2018-01-13 19:25
If only stats are what you care about then Device is definitely better than fallen 1.18 > 1.13 on LAN.
2018-01-13 19:30
#597
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Brazil hugoooo 
I never said I care only about stats. As I said on #570, FalleN playing poorly early on past year is the reason he's behind device, HLTV has a point there, I'm supporting them on that decision.
2018-01-13 19:32
So shox, device, rain, niko, coldzera the ladt 5 ?
2018-01-13 18:58
#588
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Slovakia Denysis 
Instead of Shox there will be Fer 100%.
2018-01-13 19:24
dev>fallen dwi cry is free
2018-01-13 19:01
if there isnt fallen,coldzera cant be coldzera
2018-01-13 19:01
#578
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United States fallenfan 
no way scuffed top20 fallen is #1
2018-01-13 19:08
Best IGL, one of the best rifling IGLs, but plays main awp, best awp in the world, still igl. Fallen isnt the best mechanically, but hes probably the MOST valuable player in counter strike history.
2018-01-13 19:11
#580
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Romania iQs 
badfollen
2018-01-13 19:13
#581
flusha | 
Yugoslavia mrmojo 
lol at people who said he was going to be #2 :)
2018-01-13 19:13
Unexpected Fallen to be out of the top 5
2018-01-13 19:14
#583
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Romania iQs 
5 dev1ce 4 fer 3 rain 2 niko 1 coldzera
2018-01-13 19:15
PepeHands, some exit fragger has better ranking
2018-01-13 19:29
#596
 | 
Argentina GonzaPines 
#6 REALLY? NICE JOKE HLTV NA RANKING
2018-01-13 19:31
device > fallen haha k
2018-01-13 19:37
device above fallen is just NONSENSE!!
2018-01-13 19:41
like always people dont accept that brazilians are the bests just because of our country lost all my respect hltv
2018-01-13 19:55
WHAT?
2018-01-13 20:12
#611
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Serbia EviLPatOfnA 
So Pasha ez top5 ! gg :P
2018-01-13 20:16
#612
Sunde | 
Denmark ZUCC_OP 
Lmaoooo DanishTV.org putting device in top5 in front of Fallen, speaking about BIAs... Ranking was totally fine until this....
2018-01-13 20:26
Dont say that Devic will shomehow make it to 3rd place like past 2years
2018-01-13 20:32
if it does, this site will lose all its credibility and will be a meme
2018-01-14 01:46
FalleN top 3 player but stats get in the way too much.
2018-01-13 20:42
#618
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Brazil xxSync 
Device > Fallen????????? KKKK What a joke HLTV
2018-01-13 20:44
#620
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Europe vasseldomau 
How much dev1ce has paid to hltv retards?? Its Impossible that somente with at least 12 IQ tells that Dev1ce 2016 or 2017 was better than Fallen.
2018-01-13 20:55
#621
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Argentina GlobalBlur 
6?? WTF BadFallen. 1-Coldzera 2-Niko 3-Rain 4-Fer 5-Dosia GL
2018-01-13 21:24
#622
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Ukraine Eniveyy 
Fer NiKo Cold Rain Device My top 5
2018-01-13 21:26
#624
nitr0 | 
Canada Surzz 
i called that fallen wouldnt be in the top 5, smartasses don't realize that he had a rough start to the year when felps joined.
2018-01-13 21:36
#627
NiKo | 
United States skurr 
DEVICE > FALLEN GET FUCKED FAVELAS LUL
2018-01-13 21:44
Thas probably one of a few things a device fan has to celebrate, while i watched 8 titles last year
2018-01-13 21:51
#655
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Brazil |Guts| 
10/10
2018-01-14 02:39
Savage
2018-01-15 13:18
5-device 4- rain 3- niko 2- fer 1- cold
2018-01-13 21:47
#630
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Ukraine Eniveyy 
s1mple’s skill is top 1, I’m hope in Navi
2018-01-13 22:01
Man, I mean no disrespect for device, but Fallen >>>>> than him. How many times did Fallen outwit igls and players? How many times did Fallen and Coldzera win clutch biiiig rounds for SK? The numbers doesnt even reflect that. They win those key rounds when they will be reset and forced to eco, when their team is struggling in the match. That shows mental resilience. And Device, well, he chokes bro. Sorry.
2018-01-13 22:07
#634
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Europe Vallon 
Expected, he got raped by devve.
2018-01-13 22:52
nt fan of NON MAJOR team
2018-01-14 01:45
#662
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Europe Vallon 
Triggered SK fanboy. ''nt'', as if hundreds of thousand didn't witness dev1ce completely outplaying him, plus Fallen himself tweeted: ''On this day, the student surpasses the master''.
2018-01-14 03:38
#638
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Slovakia Kurki 
as device fanboy this is such a joke... without wallen sk is trash -_- he deserved to be in top3
2018-01-13 23:57
#654
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Brazil |Guts| 
+1
2018-01-14 02:37
#639
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United States V1ruh 
sk fans triggered OMEGALUL
2018-01-14 00:00
#640
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Uruguay Faqn2 
He deserve 6 or lower
2018-01-14 00:09
#647
FalleN | 
Brazil Synsc 
no '-'
2018-01-14 01:24
#645
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Brazil WarkoreL 
lost all respect i had for HLTV
2018-01-14 01:01
#646
 | 
Brazil marcovsk 
lollllllllllllllllllllll device > fallen ??????????? NICE HLTV
2018-01-14 01:14
#653
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Brazil |Guts| 
What??? 6?????
2018-01-14 02:36
6?????????????????????? WTF
2018-01-14 03:13
#663
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Europe Vallon 
Look at all the monkeys crying, lmao.
2018-01-14 03:39
#665
felps | 
Brazil LukeCS 
what a man <3
2018-01-14 04:23
what a joke! fallen should be higher than device! fallen > Device!
2018-01-14 06:10
#668
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Brazil AlemaoBR2 
he deserved more fallen > dev1ce
2018-01-14 09:26
Fallen <333
2018-01-14 10:29
Top 5 device announced at 14.01.18 14:00
2018-01-14 10:49
#671
L.K.S | 
Turkey xAiakos 
dev1ce > fallen ??????? big joke HLTV XDDDDDDDD
2018-01-14 11:02
oh cool
2018-01-14 13:05
He' ll be back in the top 3 in 2018 . He finished the year strong since the roster change, and basically when FalleN performs, SK is unbeatable
2018-01-14 17:10
device>fallen deAL WID IT!
2018-01-14 18:33
#724
ton | 
Brazil FavelaJz 
no sorry noob comment go play please stupid kid
2018-01-19 16:39
haahhaha nice lfag m8 uer argument is invalid
2018-01-19 16:40
Deserved!
2018-01-14 18:57
device in front of fallen? Really ? really ? fallen deserves at least top 4 who and device near the fallen sk won practically this year and you put me behind the device that shame of rank now only missing the coldzera not to be in 1 in rank zzz
2018-01-14 22:25
#698
flusha | 
Yugoslavia mrmojo 
device > fallen u can read why they actually explain.
2018-01-14 22:36
#699
FalleN | 
Brazil Synsc 
dev1ce > fallen ??????? NEVEEEEER . big joke HLTV >:(
2018-01-14 22:38
Fallen not top 5 in 2017 Ok HLTV, go home you are drunk. bye
2018-01-15 04:55
Fallen >>>>>> Device, Hltv are crazy.
2018-01-15 13:51
Fallen deserves at least top 3 HLTV is joking with device in front of Fallen
2018-01-15 14:35
#721
steel | 
Belarus Ruble 
Risk everything for cs = started cheating
2018-01-15 22:03
#723
ton | 
Brazil FavelaJz 
wrong hltv.org omg top 2 easy
2018-01-19 16:39
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