Top 20 players of 2017: device (5)

MIRAA
January 14th, 2018 14:00

Number five on our top 20 ranking powered by EGB.com goes to Nicolai "device" Reedtz, who makes his fourth consecutive appearance on the list. As one of the most consistent and impactful players at big events, the Danish AWPer was a force to be reckoned with in 2017.

Top 20 players of 2017: Introduction

Just like most of his Astralis teammates, Nicolai "device" Reedtz took his first steps in esports in the CS:Source scene, in which he was one of the great young talents to come out of the talent factory that was Denmark. He quickly established himself as one of the rising talents in his country, but it was only after a knee injury that he decided to really develop his skills as before that he used to split his time between his studies, badminton and Counter-Strike.

Shortly after CS:GO was released, device joined POPPERS, curiously a team featuring former 1.6 players including veteran Danny "BERRY" Krüger and current Heroic leader Marco "Snappi" Pfeiffer. It would not last, however, as the 22-year-old quit the team just weeks later to return to Copenhagen Wolves (whom he had represented in CS:Source).

A young device playing for CPH Wolves in 2013

Motivation issues kept device in and out of the team several times throughout 2013, but it was still a positive year for him as the team garnered high placings at events with him on board, including top-eight finishes at DreamHack Summer and at the first Major, DreamHack Winter.

With no organisation to represent after parting ways with Copenhagen Wolves, the team signed for dignitas at the beginning of 2014. Under the UK-based organisation, device & co reached the semi-finals at the first two Majors (EMS One Katowice and ESL One Cologne) and the quarter-finals at DreamHack Winter, but an offline title continued to elude them. Still, device managed to break into the top 20 ranking, mostly due to his impact at smaller events like Copenhagen Games, DreamHack Stockholm #2 and ESWC.

Just one month into 2015, the team bid farewell to dignitas and jumped ship to TSM, under whom they would be able to break their title drought. The Danes established themselves among the elite as they won five international titles, with device being named the third best player of the year.


device went from 20th to 3rd in our ranking after a great year with TSM

As 2016 rolled around, the Danish players parted ways with TSM, playing some events under the name “?” before forming Astralis. Now part of an organisation in which they were involved in every decision-making process, the Danes were tipped for greatness, but they could only hit peak form in the final two months of the calendar year, after replacing Finn "karrigan" Andersen with Lukas "gla1ve" Rossander. That change brought immediate results as the team placed second at the ELEAGUE Season 2 Finals and won the ECS Season 2 Finals, the latter providing device with his only MVP award of the year, in which he was once again named the third best player in the world

"Looking back, when we won ECS and claimed the No.1 spot in the world, we obviously felt really great as a team. It was only after a few tournaments with gla1ve and the atmosphere therefore obviously was really great. I was feeling very confident in the beginning of the year and I was not that worried that the pressure of being the best team in the world would interfere with our performance at the Major. Our goal was to go to the final, at least."

Astralis’ journey began in Atlanta at the ELEAGUE Major, where the Danish giants confirmed their status as the No.1 team in the world at the time. But it was far from an easy ride: they had to go through all five rounds of the Swiss stage to make it to the playoffs despite great performances across the board from device, who finished the group stage with an impressive +50 KDD.

The spotlight was on device at the Major as he powered Astralis to reach the final

The 22-year-old carried that form into the playoffs, putting in a 1.37 rating against fnatic and a team-leading 1.38 rating against Na`Vi. But his level dropped considerably in the final against Virtus.pro as he sat at the bottom of the scoreboard with a 0.89 rating - which ultimately cost him the MVP award. Even though he had acquitted himself really well for most of the tournament, he was still left with mixed feelings after the final as a result of his below-par display in the title decider.

"If I speak for myself I would say that us having a TV crew with us, announcing Audi as a partner and just generally having to focus on a lot of things other that the game threw me off for the first part of the Major. But after some days I felt like I could adapt and shut out all of the things that I did not feel were productive for my performance, and the same goes for the team.

"To be fairly honest, I was feeling happy with my performance in some matches, it was still very early in my full time AWPing career and I had a rough time against some playstyles, but in general I was happy with most of the games except the final, in which I felt like I hit a wall with my every move. That is also why I had a hard time really being happy after the game, since it was a frustrating to an otherwise great tournament run. Kjaerbye stepping up in that game made me really happy, obviously, since he was a big part of why we succeeded in the last two games, together with the rest of the team."

It did not take long for Astralis to return to the United States after Atlanta as they attended the second big event of the year, DreamHack Masters Las Vegas. This time, device was the second-best rated player of his team at 1.22, putting up above-average ratings in all games but one - a 16-3 beating against Virtus.pro in the semi-finals.

IEM Katowice brought Astralis their second title of the year and device his second EVP mention. The 22-year-old performed at a very high level in every game he played up until the final against FaZe, in which he was once again at the bottom of the scoreboard. device finished the tournament with a 1.16 rating, 3% above the team's average, and with an admirable +60 KDD, seven clutches won and 0.40 AWP kills per round.

IEM Katowice gave Astralis their second title of the year

Next up for Astralis was the StarSeries Season 3 event, where device finished second in his team in rating (1.15 and a +43 KDD) but first in terms of KPR (0.76) and Impact (1.26), adding another EVP to his collection as he helped his squad to reach the final, in which they would crumble against FaZe.

That ended up being the last final in a while for Astralis, who crashed out of IEM Sydney in the last-four stage after taking on FaZe. Two below-par games against the European mixture saw device finish the event with a 1.13 rating - only the fourth-highest of the team -, despite his relatively high 1.17 Impact and 70.3% KAST.

Back on European soil, the Danes attended the ECS Season 3 Finals, where they made it out of the groups thanks to a solid display from device in the decider match against Liquid. Paired with SK in the semi-finals, the 22-year-old put up solid numbers on all three maps but could not prevent the Brazilians from running away with the series. In London, he returned to being first ranked in his team, finishing with a 1.14 rating - 12% above the team's average -, five 1vsX won and a 1.26 Impact, and securing his fourth EVP performance of the year.

The last two events had shown that Astralis had stopped being at the top of the food chain as they now lagged behind SK and FaZe. With the Major looming, Astralis decided to skip ESL One Cologne as they looked to rekindle the fire that had burned brightly at the start of the year.

"I definitely feel like at one point their “hunger” was bigger than ours. It affected everyone on our team that we had a lot of media focus, that we had tried to win the "big one" and been the best team in the world for a while. This is actually the toughest place to be in, since everyone has their eyes on the team to beat, and the team at the top usually does not have so many places to look for inspiration/motivation. We have learned a lot from this period, and I only think it has made us smarter as a team on how we are supposed to deal with this in the future.

"We should have been hungrier after our first loss at DreamHack Las Vegas, I think that should have been our wake up call regarding feeling content with what we’ve achieved. Other than that I feel like we did everything in our hands (not going to ESL Cologne as an example) to get back to being number one."

At PGL Major Krakow, Astralis looked on course to win the title after enacting revenge on SK for their Swiss stage loss, but then they were taken aback by Gambit’s style in the semi-finals and left the tournament empty-handed. device, who was his team's best player in the quarter-final match against SK with an impressive 1.62 rating and +23 KDD, picked up an EVP distinction in the tournament after averaging a 1.17 rating, the second-best in his team.

"When we lost the Swiss stage match against SK, I felt like we almost solely lost to coldzera, he was a beast in that game and it was honestly the most impactful I have seen anyone be against me. So beating them in the quarter-finals while FaZe could not go through the group stage felt really f*cking great. We knew that we weren’t close to winning yet, but I think in some way it’s hard to mentally reset after beating the best team in the world. Going from being the underdogs to being the clear favourites, we didn’t bring our A-game against Gambit, and they punished that.

"The loss against them at the Major was really heartbreaking because it felt like the moment we could get closer to solidifying what other great lineups had previously achieved by winning two Majors in a row. But no, I wasn’t that "surprised" that we could not beat them since they were a really good team with nothing to lose in that game, but it was still the toughest game mentally that I feel like we lost in 2017."

Astralis went out of PGL Major Krakow in the semi-finals

Astralis came from the break player a little sluggish and placed 5th-8th at DreamHack Masters Malmö, this way ending their streak of top-four finishes. device got off to a great start in the Swedish tournament, delivering a 2.05 rating against Renegades, and he followed that up with two solid maps against Na`Vi in the group winners' match. But then the Danes ran into the Gambit wall and lost, with the 22-year-old averaging an unimpressive 0.77 rating - which did not stop him from ending the tournament as Astralis' best player with a 1.17 rating and a +22 KDD. Things then went from bad to worse for the Danes, who bowed out of ESL One New York in the groups following defeats to FaZe and Liquid despite device’s efforts, the 22-year-old delivering a 1.14 rating - 13% higher than the team's average.

ELEAGUE Premier was the tournament where Astralis came closest to winning a title in the second half of 2017. The Danish team comfortably topped their group, which featured an SK team in crisis, before moving past fnatic and an in-form Cloud9 in the playoffs - only to be defeated in the final by FaZe, who continued to be an Achilles heel for gla1ve's men.

Astralis were outplayed by FaZe in the ELEAGUE Premier final

device finished all maps but one with above-average ratings and was again one of the main reasons Astralis went as far as they did as he put in a Man of the Match display in the series against Cloud9 (1.43 rating, 96.7 ADR) after being the team's second best player against fnatic (1.57 rating, +32 KDD). The Danish AWPer ended up with a 1.27 tournament rating, first in the team, and an extremely high 1.36 Impact, picking up his sixth EVP mention of the year.

"I respect Finn [karrigan] a lot, and I like the history there is with the games between us. The rivalry probably existed a little bit more around the IEM Sydney/SLTV Kiev times, where we faced each other more often, and it was closer to the time when we changed lineup. His way of calling and the way that their team plays is in general an annoying playstyle for us since they rely a lot of individual performances and unpredictability, whereas we enjoy playing against more tactical teams like SK.

"For me, there really is nothing mentally towards Finn or FaZe in general that makes me want to beat them more than any other team, other than the fact that they are ranked above us, right now."

EPICENTER was a very frustrating event for Astralis, who got slaughtered in their opening match, against G2, but still managed to go through from the groups following 2-0 victories over Liquid and North. The Danes were then outplayed by SK in the semi-finals and also lost the third-place decider against G2 despite an incredible performance from device (1.36 rating, 94.0 ADR and +27 KDD). The 22-year-old ended with a 1.18 tournament rating - 16% higher than the team's average -, six clutches, a +39 KDD and a commendable 82.9 ADR.

device regrets having attended IEM Oakland as he was not at 100%

device had his worst performance of the year at IEM Oakland, where he put in a low 0.97 rating - the only time he finished a tournament in the red -, after missing the team's first match of the competition. This ended up being his final event of the year as he sat out of Astralis' last three offline tournaments due to his persistent health issues.

"To be honest, I never should have boarded that plane to Oakland, I was dealing with a stomach infection that I thought was not that serious, and putting my body under severe stress with the jet lag, landing 1,5 hours before our first game, etc., just made the trip really unpleasant for me and I ended up going to the hospital there before being sent home.

"I felt like I would let the team down if I did not go, and I am the only one to blame for going, so I am very disappointed that I did not listen to my body and waited before I got better. I do not really feel disappointed with my performance in the tournament because of the condition I was in.

When asked about his thoughts on 2017, device stated that he was happy with the level at which he played for most of the year, but admitted that he regrets not having taken better care of himself, which could have prevented his two-month spell on the sidelines towards the end of the year.

"I am a bit disappointed that I did not take time to focus on my illness, because now I already feel like a new person going into 2018, and I feel like I could done a lot better in 2017 if I had done that. I can’t really be too harsh on myself, since I obviously did something right; otherwise, I wouldn’t be doing this interview. I am proud of what I achieved in one year being the primary AWPer, and I have proved a lot to myself by winning the Major and not feeling the pressure the same as I did earlier in my career.

"Collectively, we have been reflecting together after the winter break, and we all feel like we have more in us as a team, both strategically and individually, but we can’t not be satisfied after achieving the goal of winning a Major and overall being at the top throughout the year.

"My favourite memory? Winning the major, lifting the trophy with my best friends and achieving the ultimate there is in Counter Strike."

As Astralis prepare for ELEAGUE Major Boston, we asked device about his goals for 2018:

"We feel really great. The two-month sick leave worked wonders for me, and the winter break gave us all refreshed motivation going into 2018. Our expectations are still high, but there is not much pressure outside of the team.We kind of feel like we have that honeymoon period that new teams have since it has been so long since I last played with the guys. The goal is to reclaim the No.1 spot in the world as a team, and afterwards prove that we learnt from 2017 by keeping that spot as long as possible.

"Individually I want to grow a lot, I want to be more creative ingame strategically and stay out of the “autopilot-zone”, meaning that I constantly want to develop my playstyle and also my individual training methods. Being regarded as a top-five player three years in a row is something I am so proud of, but I really want to go for the top spot this year."

Why was device the fifth best player of 2017?

A key factor behind device’s 2017 rank is his consistency: he kept himself in high regard with tournament ratings of 1.13 or higher right until his final event of the year, IEM Oakland.

The 22-year-old only attended big events, averaging a 1.18 rating (fifth highest overall). When it came to the Majors specifically, he had the fourth-highest rating of all players at 1.24. And while no MVP awards came his way, device had EVP distinctions in half of the 12 events he attended, including at both of the Majors and in every final appearance from his team.

In 2018, device wants to top the ranking list

He was one of the best fraggers of the year with 0.77 kills per round (ranked seventh) and one of the hardest players to kill with 0.62 deaths per round (sixth). His 1.25 Impact Rating ranked him seventh in the world in this category, with his presence being especially felt in the beginning of the rounds as he had the third-highest entry kills per round ratio (0.14) and won 57.9% of his opening duels (ranked fourth).

Over the year, device was a big performer in big-event playoffs, in which he averaged a 1.13 rating, but he tended to vanish in the grand finals, delivering a mere 0.96 rating, which ultimately made room for other players to overcome him in the ranking.

"I do not feel I had a mental block in 2017 at all. It might look like that, but, in fact, I was affected by my illness a lot more and I tried to ignore the pain I was in instead of taking my time to fix it. I pushed my body harder, which often led to me being really drained in the deeper runs of tournaments. All I really remember from IEM Katowice specifically was the 12-hour group stage day, the Hardwell show and the pain I was in after the final."

Bold Prediction

After tipping William "draken" Sundin to shine in 2017, device went with a relatively safe pick this time around, predicting a solid year for mousesports youngster Robin "ropz" Kool:

Estonia Robin "ropz" Kool

"I think this one is hard this year. There are so many to pick, and I feel like our scene is getting bigger and bigger every year. The one guy I really feel like has the star potential and has been developing ever since having the chance is ropz, but it is not really that much of a “bold” pick since I am fairly confident that, if he continues doing what he is doing, he will be doing one of these interviews at the end of this year."

Stay tuned to our Top 20 players of 2017 ranking powered by EGB.com and take a look at the Introduction article to learn more about how the players were picked.

Sweden William 'draken' Sundin
William 'draken' Sundin
Age:
22
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.08
Maps played:
646
KPR:
0.73
DPR:
0.64
APR:
0.10
Estonia Robin 'ropz' Kool
Robin 'ropz' Kool
Age:
18
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.08
Maps played:
387
KPR:
0.72
DPR:
0.63
APR:
0.12
Denmark Nicolai 'device' Reedtz
Nicolai 'device' Reedtz
Age:
22
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.16
Maps played:
1132
KPR:
0.79
DPR:
0.63
APR:
0.13
Denmark Finn 'karrigan' Andersen
Finn 'karrigan' Andersen
Age:
28
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.95
Maps played:
1277
KPR:
0.65
DPR:
0.68
APR:
0.14
Denmark Lukas 'gla1ve' Rossander
Lukas 'gla1ve' Rossander
Age:
23
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.01
Maps played:
975
KPR:
0.68
DPR:
0.66
APR:
0.17
Denmark Danny 'BERRY' Krüger
Danny 'BERRY' Krüger
Age:
28
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.89
Maps played:
530
KPR:
0.63
DPR:
0.73
APR:
0.15
Denmark Marco 'Snappi' Pfeiffer
Marco 'Snappi' Pfeiffer
Age:
28
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.98
Maps played:
823
KPR:
0.68
DPR:
0.69
APR:
0.13
#1
Dev1 | 
Slovakia Marbw0w 
EDIT: MOM I DID IT
2018-01-14 14:00
It was clear it was gonna be him
2018-01-14 14:00
#49
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Austria shaakeh 
DESERVED
2018-01-14 14:01
#70
FalleN | 
Brazil gugao 
fallen deserved this spot
2018-01-14 14:04
Tottaly
2018-01-14 19:35
Remember all the times fallen faces device he gets shit on. Device consistently wins awp fights vs fallen. Only thing fallen does better is leading a team which even I have to admit he’s the best to ever do
2018-01-14 19:44
he does kill fallen constantly when there are the awp duels, but they do not win tournaments, so why is he on top 5? just like NiK0 vs coldzera NiK0 has an insane aim and his duels against coldzera are always great to watch, but he doesn't "carry" his to victory, so he shouldn't be on top of coldzera on this list
2018-01-14 22:35
You answered your own question. You get more points for being the hard carry. Device is a carry, fallen isn’t because he doesn’t have to be. Fallen has the best player to play csgo ever on his team :p
2018-01-15 04:09
#602
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India EL|DIABLO 
device only won awp battles in PGL Krakow major, after that, in all tournaments. FalleN shit on device
2018-01-15 08:12
#626
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Brazil gddz 
Do not confuse individual confrontation with achievements and team play, games are decided on the whole not on 1x1, if you compare coldly fallen is the best between the two.
2018-01-15 14:51
#546
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Australia KatVian 
Fallens mid 2017 went down the drain, device was a lot more consistent throughout the whole year, in 2016 fallen was godly but he dropped off a cliff mid 2017 and only really showed up big at a handful of tournaments
2018-01-14 20:25
should be top 3
2018-01-14 14:05
#88
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Finland hotdog^ 
device > fallen? i fallen off my chair
2018-01-14 14:05
Its because fallen has more/better players around him
2018-01-14 14:10
#121
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Other ragkuu 
rain top3 niko top2 coldzera top1... who 4?
2018-01-14 14:11
#134
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Brazil m3t4n0 
Fer
2018-01-14 14:14
fer but not sure 3 or 4
2018-01-14 14:14
#145
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Estonia Rifyy 
Maybe it's ropz?
2018-01-14 14:15
#146
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France EyalSword 
Might be fer, or idk
2018-01-14 14:15
#256
fer | 
India Vivvs007 
Its rain 4, fer 3, 2 niko 1st cold
2018-01-14 14:39
fer
2018-01-14 14:50
Fer top3, rain top4
2018-01-14 17:10
#483
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Belgium KevinGatesYo 
Rain #4
2018-01-14 17:39
device>fallen 7 days a week
2018-01-14 14:19
#173
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Finland hotdog^ 
i fallen off my chair
2018-01-14 14:20
well that's your own mistake
2018-01-14 14:32
#421
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Czech Republic davskal 
+1, you can't really help him with his stability issues. Maybe he should see a doctor or something if it happens frequently. I'm worried.
2018-01-14 16:08
But i fallen too
2018-01-14 18:41
wait, where does your flag come from? didn't i see it in a cartoon somewhere?
2018-01-14 19:22
That's so offensive, I fallen of my chair. :(
2018-01-14 19:46
yes i know! i think it was called: country that speaks brazilian
2018-01-14 21:41
yeah bad balance means that you can have some serious issues with your brain :/
2018-01-14 19:21
#303
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Brazil Valhalla00 
like i said in fallen's post yesterday, device would be 5 just because he dominated fallen in tha overpass match in PGL major
2018-01-14 14:57
#344
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Brazil Broodht 
Of course a match can resume a year ironic*
2018-01-14 15:18
#440
Brazil g5l 
Can't resume a year, but can break a tie
2018-01-14 16:19
Savage. +1
2018-01-14 19:44
hltv rankings = numbers device numbers > fallen numbers fallen skills > device skills
2018-01-14 15:28
#464
fer | 
Brazil 647 
Thats accurate
2018-01-14 16:54
#539
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Brazil Valhalla00 
+1
2018-01-14 19:49
Device 0 mvps , fallen 2 mvps. How device numbers are better than fallen numbers?
2018-01-15 00:24
#574
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Netherlands RincoB 
2 tournament wins 0 mvps & his last good tournament was? Eleague premier which means he didn't play well last 6 months of 2017. Device isn't even the awper in his team because dupreeh overperformed him.
2018-01-15 01:21
#615
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Denmark Pooplover888 
lol u know what evp's are?
2018-01-15 11:28
#623
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Netherlands RincoB 
Ye, they both have 6.
2018-01-15 13:27
#649
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Denmark Pooplover888 
So why are u then comparing device and fallen's MVP's?
2018-01-19 22:15
#341
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Austria znamyy 
fallen is the coolest monkey in da jungle
2018-01-14 15:17
#342
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Finland hotdog^ 
i fallen off my chair
2018-01-14 15:17
#476
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Denmark 1nvi$ibl3 
it's a really fucking bad joke, pls stop repeating it to everyone replying u lol
2018-01-14 17:26
Lol baited
2018-01-14 18:16
#543
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Denmark 1nvi$ibl3 
triggers the shit outta me, i'd gladly be baited as long as i tell him xd
2018-01-14 20:10
#416
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Brazil _Rhaegar_ 
I fallen off my chair
2018-01-14 16:04
#327
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Europe vasseldomau 
Retard detected
2018-01-14 15:08
#154
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Poland anton1oo 
DESERVED, TRUE! <333333333333333333333333333333333333
2018-01-14 14:16
#46
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Turkey yenibo 
lol
2018-01-14 14:01
#532
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Brazil nomurway 
fallen 2 mvps, device 0 Fallen won 8 tournaments, device 2 Fallen good awper and igl, device a good awper Fallen played the whole year, device was off for 2 months HLTV logic = device>fallen 4Head
2018-01-14 19:40
+1
2018-01-14 20:28
#558
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Denmark mersault17 
XD
2018-01-14 21:23
#557
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Denmark mersault17 
XD
2018-01-14 21:23
#562
shaGuar | 
United States brieN 
weird how a brazilian is defending fallen.... Fallen hasn't won 8 tournaments, SK did. Device can carry his team in multiple maps per tournament, fallen has 1-2 tournaments a year at most where he plays at that level where he did get the MVPs. Fallen hasn't been a top player since 1.6, hes a top 20 player that is a top3 igl
2018-01-14 22:48
#619
fer | 
Brazil 647 
as ictor_zion #356 said device numbers in 2017 are higher than fallen but only 2017, device's consistency will never beat fallen, just logic
2018-01-15 12:59
#2
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Luxembourg Nt_favela_cuck 
I WAS SO CLOSE XD GG
2018-01-14 14:00
#61
Dev1 | 
Slovakia Marbw0w 
GG WP bro
2018-01-14 14:02
#178
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Portugal ViVEiROS 
Device>Fallen? HOW? xD
2018-01-14 14:21
Maybe start reading both posts... they actually explain it very well.
2018-01-15 02:40
#604
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Brazil chuckdam 
No, they don't.
2018-01-15 08:30
Or maybe you don't understand what they wrote?
2018-01-15 11:38
#636
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Brazil chuckdam 
Maybe I just disagree with them like other peoples? Blaming constancy over 2 mvp on big events and a lot of evps... I can't agree with that, because in the end what really matter are the titles. And SK have a lot more, don't you agree?
2018-01-15 17:19
I agree that SK have many more titles. But none of them as big as a major title. SK did bad at both majors and in the end SK, Faze and Astralis have earned pretty much the same prize money. Still SK has 3 players in top 6 (probably even #1) which is very impressive and well deserved! I think it’s unfair to ask for more than that, since there has been different teams holding the #1 spot through the year.
2018-01-15 17:52
nt gg
2018-01-14 14:46
#3
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Andorra |Borowcy 
Not suprised, everyone knew this.
2018-01-14 14:00
#340
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Brazil coldzao 
what a joke achievments clash for cash lul
2018-01-14 15:15
SK didnt have a chance to play clash for cash lul
2018-01-14 15:18
Of course they did. They should just have won the major.
2018-01-15 02:58
sk no chance LUL free 250000 for astralis
2018-01-14 17:39
WHAT A JOKE KICK DEV1CE OUTTA TOP5 FFS
2018-01-14 14:00
i really cant see how this is a joke, he doesnt deserve top 10
2018-01-14 14:47
device > fallen anyday
2018-01-14 17:39
He actually won a major this year, and made it farther than SK in pgl major, and is always doing hard work lol
2018-01-14 18:18
fallen is IGL and AWPer and won 8 tournaments this year device is AWPer and won 2 tournaments this year do u still think device > fallen?
2018-01-15 08:03
Yes he won a major. When Fallen won the major and then lost to tyloo the next tournament no one said tyloo is number one xD these rankings aren't based on what you do on your team but your scores and how you play taco won 8 tournaments but he isn't here right? Because his personal stats suck, but he is important on the team and plays a big role.
2018-01-15 08:06
sk would not have won this 8 tournaments cuz of fallen and his great strats and calls while he awps while device only awps and made little difference in the tournaments he won
2018-01-15 08:09
You mean carried in the major and won xD fallen is an amazing igl but it's not like he is some sick awper, he is good and is great in the clutch but device is a better player, you must be deep throating fallen cause you are all over his nutz
2018-01-15 08:24
"it's not like he is some sick awper" are u on fuckin drugs? what are u using cuz i want some
2018-01-15 10:30
#608
 | 
Brazil HaiduHilario 
Well so, if it's based on stats why isn't simple on top of device, since he had so much better ratings? #1 kpr #1 impact rating #2 rating Are you gonna say it's because the major? Then you would just admit tournaments count more, and then FalleN should be on top of device again. Seriously, device wasn't even Astralis's best player this year.
2018-01-15 11:04
REKT
2018-01-15 11:52
LOL couldn't even respond back because he couldn't come up with anything bye bye
2018-01-15 13:05
There are two sides two that, sure tournaments matter, never said they didn't? Quote me if I'm wrong? And if you say ratings are the only thing then you can say anyone, someone that only plays online and doesn't go to as many lans but does well, I could careless if simple was on the list, he won one tournament that mattered and it was borderline at most. And device was the best player, he did so well in the major number one on his team xD they wouldn't not have won with out him. It matters again, what ratings the player has but in what context lol. If we go by your logic then rpk is top one, bye bye cold
2018-01-15 13:04
+1
2018-01-14 14:48
#292
 | 
Brazil lopanBR 
+1
2018-01-14 14:52
Xantares top 1
2018-01-14 15:35
#533
 | 
Brazil nomurway 
DESERVED
2018-01-14 19:42
I would like to see XANTARES speaking English fluently so he can grow up as a player properly in a real scene, he would make it to top5 within a year.
2018-01-14 23:54
no RAIN no GAIN
2018-01-14 14:00
oh, its device.
2018-01-14 14:00
#213
 | 
Ukraine [magda1ena] 
Nice try
2018-01-14 14:30
gj devve
2018-01-14 14:00
#219
 | 
Yugoslavia blizaardy 
Deveye sormuslar neden sirtin egri deve demis ki anani sikerim Have an Albanian day! -VeryAlbanianGuy
2018-01-14 14:31
#467
 | 
Denmark Twikzera 
Easiest report of my herb carrer
2018-01-14 17:00
a
2018-01-14 14:00
too high for me
2018-01-14 14:00
Stats twice as good as fallen
2018-01-14 14:21
Deserved
2018-01-14 14:00
#10
Thorin | 
Netherlands Rafv 
nice, but not deserved
2018-01-14 14:00
#140
JW | 
Finland Ilucs 
NIP lmao
2018-01-14 14:14
#191
Thorin | 
Netherlands Rafv 
finnish scene lmao
2018-01-14 14:24
its funny because you're from netherlands
2018-01-14 14:27
#212
Thorin | 
Netherlands Rafv 
its funny but im from poland
2018-01-14 14:30
ahhh the classic juke, im from poland totally makes sense, good job buddy.
2018-01-14 14:30
#221
Thorin | 
Netherlands Rafv 
pls tell me what does not make sense for you, i will do everything whats in my power to explain it to you
2018-01-14 14:32
#249
 | 
Netherlands !napz 
If you're really from Poland then why put the Netherlands as ur country in HLTV? If it's were you live right now, then you could've just put the EU flag instead.
2018-01-14 14:38
#234
Thorin | 
Netherlands Rafv 
"ahhh the classic juke" braindead?
2018-01-14 14:35
Insult for no reason, just insulting calling people braindead tells me everything about you. Enjoy salty life. Reported Have a good day.
2018-01-14 14:40
#287
Thorin | 
Netherlands Rafv 
Haha, your pointless response tells me everything about you Have a nice day
2018-01-14 14:51
You are one fucking retard wow
2018-01-14 16:13
#457
Thorin | 
Netherlands Rafv 
says who omegalol
2018-01-14 16:46
change your flag bro, here in the netherlands we don't support this kind of behavior
2018-01-14 19:13
#520
Thorin | 
Netherlands Rafv 
I will change to Brasil flag lol
2018-01-14 19:22
it will suit you better, for real
2018-01-14 19:23
#525
Thorin | 
Netherlands Rafv 
but i dont want to expose myself cos i live in brasil
2018-01-14 19:33
no one cares, just change your flag, dutch people are nice, you aren't
2018-01-14 19:33
#528
Thorin | 
Netherlands Rafv 
dutch people are nice best b8 so far today
2018-01-14 19:34
brazilians are more nice, but dutch is ok, little bit too cold, brazilians are more friendly (we loyal, we friendly, etc..)
2018-01-14 19:35
#215
 | 
Denmark MeToxi 
so true
2018-01-14 14:30
its funny but im from poland
2018-01-14 14:47
#289
Thorin | 
Netherlands Rafv 
It's funny but no
2018-01-14 14:52
great!!
2018-01-14 14:00
#12
 | 
Europe FPSLin 
1
2018-01-14 14:00
#13
 | 
Russia HeL$eN 
expected
2018-01-14 14:00
yeah man!
2018-01-14 14:00
#15
 | 
Belarus matthewART 
Ya boi
2018-01-14 14:00
Lol
2018-01-14 14:00
Expected
2018-01-14 14:00
#19
 | 
China qszhu 
device >>>>>>>>>>> Fallen
2018-01-14 14:00
#22
 | 
Germany cartii 
Well deserved devveking <3
2018-01-14 14:00
#23
 | 
Brazil WWWWWWW 
Fallen>Dev ;)
2018-01-14 14:00
#142
JW | 
Finland Ilucs 
BR brains LUL
2018-01-14 14:15
#150
 | 
Brazil WWWWWWW 
nt allu
2018-01-14 14:16
Device outplayed ur Fallen
2018-01-14 14:41
lol nt ScreaM
2018-01-14 18:58
#511
 | 
Brazil WWWWWWW 
nt fazeneverwinagainstsk :)
2018-01-14 18:59
envyus never win against a top 15 team
2018-01-14 19:07
#516
 | 
Brazil WWWWWWW 
but sk win 2 majors +8 tournaments this year and your country?
2018-01-14 19:09
so? devve still > fallen, scream & envyus < all, and you still live in favelas.
2018-01-14 19:18
#538
 | 
Brazil nomurway 
Stop with this ffs, you are talking like if everyone in Brazil live in fucking favelas, But just 5% of Brazilians live there
2018-01-14 19:47
#540
 | 
Brazil WWWWWWW 
east europe is worst than favelas oo
2018-01-14 19:51
5% but including WWWWW and his brain :(
2018-01-14 20:20
#547
 | 
Brazil WWWWWWW 
romania
2018-01-14 20:25
kk, nice try
2018-01-14 20:29
#168
 | 
Portugal kippster 
no but definitely neither of them should be above s1mple
2018-01-14 14:19
#412
 | 
Lithuania DieNastyA 
LOL
2018-01-14 16:01
I'm not brasilian, but i have same opinion, Fallen better than Device
2018-01-15 04:56
#24
felps | 
Canada VansNTC 
FalleN >>>>>>>> Dev1ce
2018-01-14 14:00
no
2018-01-14 14:01
Device has insane ratings....if he wasn't crap at Oakland he would be top 3
2018-01-14 14:03
I agree, this rating is awesome. I thought FalleN deserved the top5 until I see this rating.
2018-01-14 16:34
Thank you my friend - finally a Brazilian with a sense of reality...! :)
2018-01-15 02:44
And Oakland rating was bad bacause he was sick....
2018-01-15 02:43
+1
2018-01-14 14:10
-1
2018-01-14 14:47
+1
2018-01-14 15:48
#402
Ex6TenZ | 
Finland qBeY 
+1
2018-01-14 15:51
#456
 | 
Brazil Jaoh2 
+1
2018-01-14 16:43
#508
 | 
Europe Vallon 
-1
2018-01-14 18:54
#25
flusha | 
Poland Austinn 
Deserved
2018-01-14 14:00
this is di end
2018-01-14 14:01
#28
 | 
Brazil autonozera 
No deserved. 1-Coldzera 2-NiKo 3-Fer 4-Rain
2018-01-14 14:02
#128
NiKo | 
India Sishir 
I guess 3. Rain 4. Fer. Rain has an MVP at ECS and numerous MVP like performances.
2018-01-14 14:13
Fer has an MVP too
2018-01-14 15:33
#375
NiKo | 
India Sishir 
Rain has one at the end of the year. Never trust HLTV logic.
2018-01-14 15:37
#148
JW | 
Finland Ilucs 
Nice flag
2018-01-14 14:15
Wp deserved device
2018-01-14 14:01
#30
 | 
Poland wojteq__ 
Ok
2018-01-14 14:01
EZ
2018-01-14 14:01
#32
 | 
World GuardianC4 
undeserved
2018-01-14 14:01
xddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd
2018-01-14 14:01
LUL
2018-01-14 14:01
#36
 | 
Palestine hevCS 
beast
2018-01-14 14:01
#38
 | 
Europe BigDickStacy 
rigged
2018-01-14 14:01
#39
 | 
Argentina roulettesoad 
device over fallen ROFL
2018-01-14 14:01
fallen major rating 1.04 with 15 maps device major rating 1.24 with 22 maps
2018-01-14 14:04
no fallen no sk no major igl contributes the most from the team u dumb nut
2018-01-14 14:07
I don't understand what your underdeveloped mind is trying to communicate. try again
2018-01-14 14:08
if you can not understand that means you can not speak proper en i said igls contribute the most towards wining meaning fallen> device any day
2018-01-14 14:09
you should go learn some grammar, I can't honestly understand what the fuck you're trying to say
2018-01-14 14:10
20 iq no comment here
2018-01-14 14:11
#226
 | 
Denmark MeToxi 
Im with road to silver elite on this.. Write it in understandable sentences instead of just typing random words that relate to your point.
2018-01-14 14:33
Wth, l can clearly understand him and my Englando is really bad. Maybe you guys have some mental disorder?!
2018-01-14 14:46
#275
 | 
Denmark MeToxi 
I had to read it twice before it made sense to me. Maybe its because of your "bad englando" that you can understand him so easily
2018-01-14 14:47
Well, what you say don't even makes sense, if my Englando is bad, how the fuck l'll understand a worst Englando?! Hmm l don't know... You can't live in society anymore, l'm calling the police.
2018-01-14 14:49
#286
 | 
Denmark MeToxi 
Whatever
2018-01-14 14:50
#139
 | 
Jordan human928 
Hahahahaha me 2 lol
2018-01-14 14:14
#240
 | 
Czech Republic Jurys 
This is an international site please write your comment in english comments in another language will be deleted.
2018-01-14 14:36
its pretty easy to understand tho and he's totally right, fallen's rating and still leading the team too perfection is better than a bit better rating (and majors are important but you can't resume the whole year on 2 lans)
2018-01-14 15:01
this is a list of the best players. it's impossible for outsiders to know who does more to help lead the team. that's why hltv never bothers making that a valid criteria in top 20 lists
2018-01-14 15:07
don't be a dick .. you know its true
2018-01-14 15:08
#107
 | 
Italy John Dorian 
????? what is that logic u dumb cunt lmao go jump a bridge
2018-01-14 14:09
reported fucking 12ves talking about suicide better shut ur stupid mouth
2018-01-14 14:10
#120
lover | 
Other Gala0 
Stfu and learn csgo, then learn english
2018-01-14 14:11
You dont have to like anything but you are acting like a poser you cant explain why you think its boring, you just keeps repeating It Do you feel pleasure shittalking? one of ur comments nice en btw have you even finished 1st grade?
2018-01-14 14:12
#207
lover | 
Other Gala0 
So triggered that started stalking hahaha
2018-01-14 14:27
and you talking about cs go makes me laugh even more do you even know that the most important thing in pro team is igl if you have a bad igl you are not gonna win meaning fallen is not just a great awper but without him sk wouldnt have won so many awards now does your nut sized brain understand what im trying to explain to you 20 iq undeveloped humans???
2018-01-14 14:16
#229
lover | 
Other Gala0 
This ranking is about the best If It was the relevante to success then put dead at 1rst first cuz he gave them home and support Stop acting like you are something smart, you went all the way here and havent even realized what is this about, braindamaged kid, 100t fan must be some brazillian rubbish
2018-01-14 14:33
oh fuck off man you clearly have no experience in cs at all
2018-01-14 14:49
#233
 | 
Denmark MeToxi 
That is true but there is no good way to measure the impact of ingame leading.
2018-01-14 14:35
wow, nice
2018-01-14 14:01
1st
2018-01-14 14:01
#42
kennyS | 
Brazil L4bz 
Expected
2018-01-14 14:01
congratz
2018-01-14 14:01
#44
 | 
Slovakia shddd 
bullshit
2018-01-14 14:01
#45
 | 
Poland icelake 
earth attack
2018-01-14 14:01
LEL
2018-01-14 14:01
everyone knows hunden and ocean top 2
2018-01-14 14:01
#151
JW | 
Finland Ilucs 
+1
2018-01-14 14:16
#325
 | 
Bangladesh Ev1l Japan 
2 GODS
2018-01-14 15:07
just asking myself where the xgod himself will be ranked as third or whether there will be three first places this year
2018-01-14 15:08
#50
 | 
Russia calcium20s 
ahhaahha dev > fallen ROFL TOP
2018-01-14 14:01
#152
JW | 
Finland Ilucs 
Ok ruski kid.
2018-01-14 14:16
#155
 | 
Russia calcium20s 
xd
2018-01-14 14:17
#183
s1mple | 
Poland Hell2k 
Fallen overrated lul
2018-01-14 14:22
#200
 | 
Russia calcium20s 
Apparently, the device is overvalued even more
2018-01-14 14:26
vp overrated lul
2018-01-14 14:27
#239
s1mple | 
Poland Hell2k 
Fallen is noob dont cry
2018-01-14 14:36
#393
 | 
Germany Trax_ 
+1, most time he got carried
2018-01-14 15:47
expected really
2018-01-14 14:01
#52
 | 
Ukraine EarthAintFlat 
Danish mafia. Most undeserved spot in top20
2018-01-14 14:01
alongside Kjaerbye, Snax and Olof for sure.
2018-01-14 14:13
#224
 | 
Ukraine [magda1ena] 
Agree with these 3. But device is god
2018-01-14 14:32
#156
JW | 
Finland Ilucs 
Ahaha mad
2018-01-14 14:17
TOM CRUISE IN TOP 5? PogChamp
2018-01-14 14:01
#587
 | 
Sweden TomodachiOM 
To me he looks more like Pierce Brosnan
2018-01-15 03:30
#54
Xyp9x | 
Ukraine Bananagl 
overrated
2018-01-14 14:01
#55
 | 
Kyrgyzstan XcmlX 
lel i thought he didn't do anything special, but these ratings tho. only 1 bad tournament. totally deserved
2018-01-14 14:02
#160
JW | 
Finland Ilucs 
He makes his kills look easy
2018-01-14 14:18
opening frags #3... hater ''device exitfragger''
2018-01-14 14:02
#103
 | 
India bozzmob 
+1 people just trash talk. Device deserved spot.
2018-01-14 14:08
#242
 | 
Denmark MeToxi 
indeed
2018-01-14 14:36
#57
 | 
Poland Dazzul 
Rain gonna be #2
2018-01-14 14:02
#58
 | 
Brazil marcovsk 
Fallen > rain > device Mr. Obvious.
2018-01-14 14:02
#97
 | 
Netherlands Maksta 
rain > fer > FalleN > device
2018-01-14 14:07
#133
 | 
Brazil marcovsk 
#1 cold #2 fer Mark this
2018-01-14 14:13
#217
 | 
Netherlands Maksta 
flag + flair + name checks out
2018-01-14 14:31
#102
 | 
Turkey pardus 
flag checks out. fallen>dev1ce rain>fallen for this year.
2018-01-14 14:08
#247
 | 
Czech Republic Jurys 
biased comment, 0 value
2018-01-14 14:37
#59
 | 
United States AmericaIsBest 
cold niko fer rain
2018-01-14 14:02
deserved
2018-01-14 14:02
#62
 | 
Russia razorVJ 
Why does gla1ve look pissed on every photo?
2018-01-14 14:02
Because he is actually pissed. Fucking have to be with device a lot of time and can not kiss him would be frustrating.
2018-01-14 14:04
KappaPride
2018-01-14 17:01
hahahahahahhaahahahahahahahahahahahah
2018-01-14 14:02
UNDESERVED
2018-01-14 14:03
hiatal hernia'd
2018-01-14 14:03
Bullshit, fallen is way better
2018-01-14 14:04
#175
barce | 
South Africa Barter6 
AGREED
2018-01-14 14:22
#71
yeL | 
United Kingdom JME_ 
Biggest LAN dodger in tiers 1 and 2
2018-01-14 14:04
#74
Respect | 
Other Bra71I 
UNDESERVED
2018-01-14 14:04
Device better than falleN nice joke hltv
2018-01-14 14:04
#77
 | 
Brazil marcovsk 
2 trophies 0 mvp And > Fallen Lol danish hltv mafia
2018-01-14 14:04
#167
JW | 
Finland Ilucs 
Nice Flag
2018-01-14 14:19
#490
 | 
Brazil marcovsk 
Nice CS scene Om3ga lol
2018-01-14 18:19
#251
 | 
Denmark MeToxi 
This ranking is not ranking the best teams in the world but the best players. You can find the team ranking right here: hltv.org/ranking/teams/2018/january/8
2018-01-14 14:38
The best players are in THE BEST TEAMS danish hltv nice rank tho
2018-01-14 18:17
#505
 | 
Denmark MeToxi 
And astralis isn't one of the best teams?
2018-01-14 18:47
Unbelievable how many Brazilian whiners there are - even with (supposedly) 3 Brazilian players in top 6...! Bearing in mind that SK haven’t been dominant throughout the year and haven’t won a major, it’s pretty damn impressive to have 3 players in top 6 in the world. Dear Brazilian friends: STOP WHINING AND BE PROUD!!!
2018-01-15 03:13
#78
s1mple | 
Europe RRRo 
gz mr.overrated
2018-01-14 14:04
How is he overrated? explain so i can understand!
2018-01-14 15:41
#382
s1mple | 
Europe RRRo 
look at notable stats
2018-01-14 15:42
By that logic u are rly saying that oskar > device?:D
2018-01-14 15:44
#391
s1mple | 
Europe RRRo 
s1mple>device
2018-01-14 15:47
allu > device
2018-01-14 15:47
#395
s1mple | 
Europe RRRo 
okay
2018-01-14 15:47
Oskar > Device Simple > Device Fallen > Device Guardian > Device
2018-01-14 18:33
ska > device allu > device jdm > device _______ > device
2018-01-14 18:34
#79
 | 
Brazil Kio_23 
Device > FalleN ?..... Never !
2018-01-14 14:05
fallen was getting carried almost the whole year, open your eyes blind fanboy
2018-01-14 14:05
You really didn't watch a single fucking game, did you?
2018-01-14 14:07
in fact i watched, just look the history of sk's matches fallen all the time 4th or 5th, easy as that, just check it before talking shit
2018-01-14 14:09
Someone didn't watch a single SK game at 2018. You and the other Faze cocksuckers under you.
2018-01-14 23:08
It’s a 2017 ranking
2018-01-15 03:15
#118
 | 
Norway SkaMathias 
lol did you?
2018-01-14 14:11
Did you?
2018-01-14 16:23
#132
 | 
Brazil Kio_23 
The numbers show what iam correct..... You need learn more about cs !!!! Fnatic fanboy ola
2018-01-14 14:13
Fallen major rating 1.04 with 15 maps device major rating 1.24 with 22 maps
2018-01-15 03:16
#597
 | 
Brazil Kio_23 
How many mvp device won?
2018-01-15 05:38
How many many majors did fallen win in '17?
2018-01-15 11:36
#625
 | 
Brazil Kio_23 
In 2K17 SK won 8 titles - 1.525.300,000 US$ of prize, is good for you ? was like win 3 majors...... What astralis won beyond of major in 2k17 ? go understand more about cs go kid.... And BLAST ?? How did you lose at home? LOL
2018-01-15 14:50
SK 1.557.000 Astralis 1.463.000 SK has 3 players in top 6 - Astralis has 1. Stop whining and be happy, my friend.
2018-01-15 15:23
#635
 | 
Brazil Kio_23 
Stop whining you kid, your dream is be like us, but never will be ! How many mvp device won ? Stop whining and be happy, my friend.²
2018-01-15 17:00
TRUST me.... I have NO desire to be anything like you. I’m not the one crying here. I’m proud of Astralis’ achievements and I congratulate SK for their well deserved honoring and impressive placings.
2018-01-15 17:43
#642
 | 
Brazil Kio_23 
Ok, I believe, congratulations on your humility.
2018-01-15 22:19
#627
 | 
Brazil Kio_23 
How many mvp device won ?
2018-01-15 14:59
#169
JW | 
Finland Ilucs 
Nice flag
2018-01-14 14:19
#209
 | 
Brazil Kio_23 
I can to say the same thing for you
2018-01-14 14:28
#214
JW | 
Finland Ilucs 
I'm not being biased here. That's you guys
2018-01-14 14:30
#252
 | 
Brazil Kio_23 
I too not
2018-01-14 14:39
cold fer rain niko left
2018-01-14 14:05
#82
 | 
United States sundby11 
lul
2018-01-14 14:05
#83
Sunde | 
Denmark Cabbi_OP 
Most overrated player in history of counter strike, those stats come from saving adn exit kills and eco bash... There is no universe in which can Device be in front of fallen.. only on DenmarkTV.org...
2018-01-14 14:05
#171
JW | 
Finland Ilucs 
#3 in entry kills. Mad?
2018-01-14 14:20
yup, cuz of eco bash, best anti eco player in the world along with fer
2018-01-14 14:20
this comment will be the most stupid one this year
2018-01-14 14:32
Still #3 in entry kills
2018-01-15 03:17
#85
 | 
France dans03 
No mb top4
2018-01-14 14:05
Rigged.
2018-01-14 14:05
#89
FalleN | 
Brazil tails36 
Fallen>device But ok Deserved
2018-01-14 14:05
#90
s1mple | 
Ukraine K3KUS 
As for me overrated
2018-01-14 14:06
Lol.#5 undeserved.
2018-01-14 14:06
#92
 | 
Russia xtkjdtr01 
best player
2018-01-14 14:06
#93
JORDAN | 
Jordan LBJ 
haHAA >impactful >BOT device pick one Hltv went full retard
2018-01-14 14:06
#176
JW | 
Finland Ilucs 
#3 in entry kills. U mad?
2018-01-14 14:20
#479
 | 
China ___TyLoo___ 
LBJ :dDDD
2018-01-14 17:31
#94
FalleN | 
Brazil paumito 
Pathetic. HLTV just couldn't handle 5 SK players at the top5, so they came with this absurd placement of Overratedevice. Shitty list anyways. Wouldn't be surprised with rain > fer and niko > cold.
2018-01-14 14:06
#131
 | 
Latvia mosquito1881 
So mad, so ignorant, so brasil. Expected from this flag
2018-01-14 14:13
#179
JW | 
Finland Ilucs 
The most biased nation on earth
2018-01-14 14:21
#258
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Denmark MeToxi 
+1
2018-01-14 14:41
#389
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Germany sunnyrain 
+1
2018-01-14 15:46
So arrogant and racist. Expected from european cunt.
2018-01-14 23:06
#628
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Latvia mosquito1881 
I didnt said anything about race tho.
2018-01-15 15:17
overrated asf
2018-01-14 14:06
4. rain 3. fer 2. NiKo 1. Coldzera
2018-01-14 14:07
#135
NiKo | 
India Sishir 
3. Rain 4. Fer
2018-01-14 14:14
#227
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Ukraine [magda1ena] 
4. Rain 3. Fer
2018-01-14 14:33
#241
NiKo | 
India Sishir 
Rain has an MVP at ECS and has many MVP like performances throughout the year. So I guess 3. Rain 4. Fer
2018-01-14 14:36
#245
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Ukraine [magda1ena] 
Will see. Maybe u right
2018-01-14 14:37
#253
NiKo | 
India Sishir 
Yea. It's close.
2018-01-14 14:39
#290
NiKo | 
India Sishir 
Has an MVP at the end of the year. That's what HLTV is gonna see tho. And in 2017 I think Rain was much more impactful in most matches.
2018-01-14 14:52
how many mvps device had? :D
2018-01-14 15:12
#350
NiKo | 
India Sishir 
Dev1ce top5 skilled already, so is s1mple. Astralis started 2017 pretty good. But Rain and fer are very close that's where MVP counts. Rain's games were much more flashy than fer as well. Moreover there was no one to replace Dev1ce at 5. S1mple is very good individually but ranked 8 because of no wins. Personally I don't how hltv checks things but I will go with my gut and that's rain
2018-01-14 15:22
fallen 2 mvps, device 0, and device still over him and fer is more consistent and had more impactful than rain this year, the numbers don't lie
2018-01-14 15:58
#413
NiKo | 
India Sishir 
No I don't agree to that. SK winning tournaments has a huge factor involved which is Taco playing very good to an extent. Rain and fer are certainly the most consistent players rn. But in most of Faze matches Rain carried Faze in the later half of the yeat but in SK everyone stepped up at times. So my pick is rain. You could say Fallen has 2 MVPs but dev1ce had injury so he was out. And skillwisrle I guess Dev1ce is better than fallen
2018-01-14 16:03
in the first months of 2017, fer was the best sk player, while rain was the best faze player only in the last months. the difference is that fer has best stats numbers than rain if you count the whole year
2018-01-14 16:07
#431
NiKo | 
India Sishir 
Stats don't say everything. The fact is Rain was consistent in most of the finals Faze played where SK played amazingly well as a team. The one thing that can place Fer in 3 is Faze not getting into the major. But I still think Rain is gonna be 3.
2018-01-14 16:11
OVERRATED
2018-01-14 14:07
#105
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United Kingdom Fizzhaz 
unexpected?? xd
2018-01-14 14:08
Overrated
2018-01-14 14:08
#108
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Russia homeboi 
O M E G A L U L what a roflorating
2018-01-14 14:09
overrated af
2018-01-14 14:09
one of the most overrated players in csgo history
2018-01-14 14:10
Still mad because of the eleague major?
2018-01-15 03:22
no?
2018-01-15 11:10
kk
2018-01-14 14:11
Fallen > Device tho
2018-01-14 14:11
Fallen major rating 1.04 with 15 maps device major rating 1.24 with 22 maps
2018-01-15 03:21
Everyone calling Device overrated but he destroyed Fallen everytime in AWP dual this year so stfu
2018-01-14 14:11
only on ESC season 2, he was dominated on the rest of their matchups trough out the year. Device has worst performance of all astralis players past quaterfinals, thats interesting af
2018-01-14 14:22
hltv.org/matches/2312394/astralis-vs-sk-.. Biggest AWP duel rekt ive ever seen in one of the most important match possible but keep lying to yourself
2018-01-14 14:24
#265
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Denmark MeToxi 
That score though. Its godlike! Almost like cold on inf.
2018-01-14 14:44
His rating says differently
2018-01-14 14:49
people please read the damn article before saying shit. or do you guys have the brains of monkeys?
2018-01-14 14:12
#268
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Denmark MeToxi 
+1
2018-01-14 14:45
Ah people have been suffering from "TL:DR" syndrome for as long as I can remember, you get used to it after a while.
2018-01-14 16:58
BABYFACE
2018-01-14 14:12
nice joke FALLEN>>>>>>device
2018-01-14 14:12
#129
lover | 
Other Gala0 
Kennys > device > Guardian > Fallen Nobody cares If someone is IGL Skill is skill
2018-01-14 14:13
nt 0,00000/8
2018-01-14 14:15
#196
lover | 
Other Gala0 
Are you blind or stupid? Ohh, worse... You are brazillian
2018-01-14 14:25
#304
 | 
Brazil NOOBUSTERS 
Syria HAHAHAHA I didn't know you guys have internet.
2018-01-14 14:57
#318
lover | 
Other Gala0 
Yea, ofc im syrian I could call you stupid but you surely wouldnt understand Ignorance is bliss
2018-01-14 15:03
#361
 | 
Brazil NOOBUSTERS 
omg you are a fakeflagger? That its? You are so smart, this is real news in this site. Hilarious and original.
2018-01-14 15:32
#460
lover | 
Other Gala0 
Everybody noticed your failed sarcasm and i dont want to spend more time trying to comunicate with a monkey
2018-01-14 16:48
#469
 | 
Brazil NOOBUSTERS 
Syria guy is mad. Dont "Allahu Akbar" and kill me.
2018-01-14 17:10
Brazil is much better country then your shitty arab country. Go join isis and marry your sister or your mother idiot
2018-01-14 22:47
#612
lover | 
Other Gala0 
Why so mad? Go take a shower and rlx
2018-01-15 11:22
#153
NiKo | 
India Sishir 
+1 but if only awp Guardian > Dev1ce. Dev1ce better in all round skill and a better impact player.
2018-01-14 14:17
#187
s1mple | 
Poland Hell2k 
Exactly and kids cry cuz Fallen top 6 lul he should be top 8
2018-01-14 14:23
#188
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Latvia mosquito1881 
Yep. I dont understand why somebody make such a big deal that somebody is igl. Idgaf. We cant know if he would be so good when he would not be igl. Those are just pathetic excuses.
2018-01-14 14:23
#263
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Sweden Impressional 
That’s the most retarded comment i’ve read this year.. Sad and doesnt even know what a IGL does for a team..
2018-01-14 14:43
#423
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Latvia mosquito1881 
I know what they do to the team. But why do everyone overhype someone "oh imagine what could he do if he would not be igl" thats just stupid. Because u never know. Those are just silly speculations by kids. Swedish kiddo
2018-01-14 16:08
#284
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Brazil R_ananias 
Oh yeah course igl is such a minor detail in a team with NO COACH.
2018-01-14 14:50
#300
lover | 
Other Gala0 
Thats not even the point You cant and shouldnt mesure the impact of an IGL in the team Bacause the ranking If about the motherfucking performance Are you playing the dumb fanboy?
2018-01-14 14:55
#550
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Brazil R_ananias 
Being the ingame leader is also part of the player performance!
2018-01-14 20:29
#613
lover | 
Other Gala0 
Illiterate monkey
2018-01-15 11:23
I agree with you...as far as i know HLTV is looking at players performances and stats...not their IGLing
2018-01-14 14:50
LUL
2018-01-14 14:14
#138
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Norway SkaMathias 
Its well deserved, sad that too many newfags who came after 2014 think he is overrated
2018-01-14 14:14
#141
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Denmark Pooplover888 
ezz
2018-01-14 14:14
#143
fox | 
Portugal neraro 
1-Coldzera 2-Niko 3-Fer 4-Rain
2018-01-14 14:15
#147
NiKo | 
India Sishir 
Expected. And skillwise individually yes Dev1ce > Fallen. So. Rest. 1/2. Coldzera 1/2. Niko 3. Rain 4. Fer
2018-01-14 14:15
Niko 10000% won’t be 1 lol
2018-01-14 16:10
hltv rigged as fuck hahahahahahah but tbh expected from danish website
2018-01-14 14:18
so fast
2018-01-14 14:17
Device>Fallen :D :D :D
2018-01-14 14:18
#161
f0rest | 
Turkey kadirb 
fallen > dev1ce
2018-01-14 14:18
#162
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Turkey lulpump1 
Unexpected
2018-01-14 14:18
#163
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United States StewieOnLAN 
fallen > device 4 rain 3 fer 2 niko 1 cold and if rain is over fer i am logging off hltv forever
2018-01-14 14:19
FALLEN > DEVVE whatduheck
2018-01-14 14:19
#166
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Brazil Charizaldo 
Hahahahahahahahahah nice try HLTV
2018-01-14 14:19
read before saying shit monkey brain
2018-01-14 16:50
#170
mir | 
El Salvador NotHotMan 
IM DONE WITH THIS SHIT HLTV RANKING XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
2018-01-14 14:20
Fallen is better than device, considering FalleN participated in more tournaments this year
2018-01-14 14:20
#185
JW | 
Finland Ilucs 
Nice logic LUL. Check the facts before posting
2018-01-14 14:22
Uh and FalleN has more achievements more mvps and around the same evps
2018-01-14 14:28
#211
JW | 
Finland Ilucs 
Yes, but a lot of those come from playing on better team. Rating though doesn't lie
2018-01-14 14:29
Your rating is harder to maintain when you play more maps than someone else. In his case, sadly he missed out on 2 tournaments. FalleN was playing on most tournaments. Arguably playing with a better team is harding to get a better rating since they are performing better and you don’t have as much space to work with
2018-01-14 14:35
#281
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Denmark MeToxi 
This ranking is based on actual skill... Not potential skill if he played with someone worse than his current teammates.
2018-01-14 14:49
I agree but he has more impact than device considering he played more tournaments than him and garnered much more achievements
2018-01-14 14:51
#297
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Denmark MeToxi 
The amount of tournaments has nothing to do with impact though. And if u look at his impact stats they're actually very good. Way better than fallen. And falken had 10 events with no red stats where not all is BIG events whereas device had 11 events with no red stats and all big events
2018-01-14 14:56
#495
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Brazil MommyStealer 
Fallen is the reason why they are better.
2018-01-14 18:27
#565
JW | 
Finland Ilucs 
Keep telling yourself that while you jerk off to his fragmovies. They have the best player in the world on their team and a fantastic agressive player in Fer. Fallen isn't the biggest reason they are good.
2018-01-14 23:06
#180
s1mple | 
Poland Hell2k 
IMO Fallen KennyS S1mple>Device
2018-01-14 14:21
#186
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Brazil mibrzera 
nice joke
2018-01-14 14:22
good job, hope that at this year he should be on top-3.
2018-01-14 14:24
#192
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Europe vasseldomau 
Device 2017 top 5???? Is it really serious or just a good HLTV joke??
2018-01-14 14:25
FalleN 2 MVPS top6 Device 0 MVPS top5 hltv OMEGALUL
2018-01-14 14:25
yes you have to remember hltv is a danish website
2018-01-14 14:26
+999999999999999
2018-01-14 14:55
#1 eco and exit fragger for sure, thank mr device but pls go back to the awp, dupreeh doesn't like to awp
2018-01-14 14:25
Expected.
2018-01-14 14:25
#198
liTTle | 
CIS Dowa) 
so u must get only exit frags for rank 5?
2018-01-14 14:26
#294
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Denmark MeToxi 
3rd in entry frags per round, nt like every other fucking retard not reading the post before commenting.
2018-01-14 14:53
DEVICE <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<FALLEN
2018-01-14 14:26
Fallen>Device>rain
2018-01-14 14:26
#203
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Europe vasseldomau 
Fallen 8 titles / Device 2 titles Fallen 2 MVPs / Device 0 MVPs Fallen monsters in finals / Device choked at Major, Katowice, Blast and Eleague Premiere finals Fallen had more first kills Fallen is still IGL Congratulations HLTV for losing the rest of your credibility!!
2018-01-14 14:31
#220
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Czech Republic jETFly 
+999999 HLTV Rankings sucks. Device the biggest choker in history of CS. Fallen > Device
2018-01-14 14:32
#230
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Yugoslavia blizaardy 
Very true
2018-01-14 14:34
+1
2018-01-14 14:35
+1 i wonder who is responsible for hltv rankings and players, it's ridiculously bad
2018-01-14 14:41
+1
2018-01-14 14:46
Device wasnt playing at blast...
2018-01-14 14:53
#312
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Denmark MeToxi 
Device = 12 events, all big events Fallen = 19 events, and not all of them is big events Device had 11 out of 12 events with no red stats Fallen had 10 out of 19 events with no red stats And i have to mention that the event where device didn't perform well was the event where he arrived late and with stomach pain.
2018-01-14 15:01
#321
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Europe vasseldomau 
Dev1ce performing bad Eleague major semi finals and finals (choked against VP, as he always does at finals) Katowice Eleague Premiere No fucking way this guy deserved top 5. Fallen has a 2017 so much better than Device. And also KennyS.
2018-01-14 15:04
#331
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Denmark MeToxi 
I suppose that u didn't actually read the post. Device has been sick all year but ignored it. So after lengthy tournament runs he would be exhausted because of his condition which would impact his performance. And no, im not excluding the fact that it could be choking. Im just exploring all options.
2018-01-14 15:10
#334
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Europe vasseldomau 
Ok
2018-01-14 15:10
Fallen major rating 1.04 with 15 maps device major rating 1.24 with 22 maps
2018-01-15 03:31
#609
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Europe vasseldomau 
Only against tier 2 or 3 team. Always, always and always TSM or Astralis really needed Device on Majors, he choked. Everybody know that.
2018-01-15 11:04
Still living in 2015?
2018-01-15 15:27
#639
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Europe vasseldomau 
NO, but Device fans are! Just a completely retard would say Dev1ce 2017 was better than Fallen.
2018-01-15 19:13
Stats and experts says otherwise
2018-01-15 20:20
#399
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Turkey dogboi2001 
wtf i am astralis fan but fallen > device this year for sure., hes also igl and even with all sk roster changes he managed to keep them at #1 spot
2018-01-14 15:49
No he didn't. In the first part of the year, they were definitely not #1.
2018-01-15 15:28
#632
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Turkey dogboi2001 
yes astralis was #1 in the first few months. but throughout the year SK has been the best team
2018-01-15 15:31
And this is why SK has 3 players in top 6, while Astralis has 1..! When exactly did SK take the #1 spot?
2018-01-15 15:40
#208
fer | 
Brazil FakeNemRi 
FALLEN > Device!
2018-01-14 14:28
+1
2018-01-14 15:50
Worst baiting shit ecofrrager together with coldzera bot. 2 most overrated shits in history of cs
2018-01-14 14:29
Any tier 1 awp > DEV1CE
2018-01-14 14:31
it's just HLTV-dk.org things :>
2018-01-14 14:32
DEv1ce <3 brazil can cry ))))))))))))))
2018-01-14 14:33
virtus.pro LUL
2018-01-14 14:36
i dont care about vp rly :P
2018-01-14 14:39
BUG LUL
2018-01-14 16:16
#231
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Poland Marcines 
0.96 in finals and top5 LOL
2018-01-14 14:34
#235
SIXER | 
Netherlands Deji 
LUL LUL LUL
2018-01-14 14:35
>danish website >no wonder who is 5
2018-01-14 14:35
#238
cadiaN | 
Belarus MIZ1AN 
Cold Niko Rain Fer
2018-01-14 14:35
No MVP, no exceptional stats but rank 5. He is so overrated.
2018-01-14 14:37
+100 the god of baiting and exitfragging
2018-01-14 14:38
#315
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Denmark MeToxi 
Did u even read the article?
2018-01-14 15:03
device only had one tournament below 1.0 rating and at that tournament he was ill, just goes to show you how mentally damaged some people are
2018-01-14 14:37
deserved dev>fallen
2018-01-14 14:38
#255
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Bulgaria vectralsoul 
You forgot the Kappa, HLTV
2018-01-14 14:39
2018-01-14 14:45
#261
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Brazil imFroosTy 
FALLEN>DEVICE
2018-01-14 14:41
yes boii
2018-01-14 14:43
#266
s1 | 
Armenia gr1nch 
overrated
2018-01-14 14:44
#269
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Brazil NOOBUSTERS 
No MVP, 2 tornaments wins. top5 hahahahah
2018-01-14 14:45
#323
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Denmark MeToxi 
I think u need to take an english class. This is a player ranking, not team ranking. Go here for the teamranking: hltv.org/ranking/teams/2018/january/8 And Mvps isnt everything since device clearly has better stats than fallen
2018-01-14 15:05
#353
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Brazil NOOBUSTERS 
me no speek inglish sir Fallen is the IGL of the most successful team in the year, leading his team to 8 wins. But the danish site dont have stats for being IGL. IGL is not a individual skill... Year after year, the revelance of this shit top20 is falling.
2018-01-14 15:25
#357
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Denmark MeToxi 
Like i said in another comment, there is no good way to measure the impact of an igl. But I do think fallen is one of the best, if not the best igl.
2018-01-14 15:29
#371
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Brazil NOOBUSTERS 
He is the best IGL. His team won 8 tornaments! With TACO...
2018-01-14 15:36
#373
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Denmark MeToxi 
And has a great personality. Atleast in public.
2018-01-14 15:36
#496
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Brazil MommyStealer 
Better stats but cant get a mvp, so impactiful...
2018-01-14 18:31
#501
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Denmark MeToxi 
But he got 6 evps. And in one of their 2 wins he still had best stats. And in their 2nd win he was second best overall.
2018-01-14 18:37
#280
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Netherlands !napz 
99% of people saying that he didn't deserve this are Brazilian xD. U mad guys lul
2018-01-14 23:09
what the fuck device didnt do anything this year HAHAHAHA TOP 5 WHAT THE FUCK HLTV KYS
2018-01-14 14:52
#295
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Brazil R_ananias 
How can he be a top5 without even one single MVP? He couldn't be the most valuable player in at least one event all through the year? What kind of impactful player is that?
2018-01-14 14:54
#376
fnx | 
Norway Trypticon 
HLTV.org are obviously biased as hell here.
2018-01-14 15:37
LMFAO!! and Device blind fangays thought he would any higher LOL
2018-01-14 14:54
#298
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Portugal dracø 
6 evp > 6 evp + 2 mvp 2 tournament wins > 8 tournament wins Not playing for a while > playing all year Getting replaced due to illness and watching his team playing better than before > being the IGL of the n1 team in the world oh hltv, you are becoming the trolls you are trying so hard to ban :)
2018-01-14 14:55
#305
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Brazil R_ananias 
+1
2018-01-14 14:57
#322
coldzera | 
Brazil Heus 
+1
2018-01-14 15:05
+1
2018-01-14 15:12
#374
fnx | 
Norway Trypticon 
+1
2018-01-14 15:36
+1
2018-01-14 15:42
#499
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Brazil MommyStealer 
+1
2018-01-14 18:34
#513
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Denmark MeToxi 
1. Missing a little under a month = Not playing for a while. So less than a month more inactive compared to other teams and its just supposed to delete all the great events he had this year? Where is your logic? 2. Tournament wins has nothing to do with individual performances? Device still had alot of deep tournament runs where he played great. 3. Fallen might have 2 more mvps than device but he was also alot more inconsistent, most importantly, fallens performance dropped at both majors whereas device had a very consistent year. Device lowest rating in the first 11 out of 12 events was 1.13 and the 12th event was 0.97 and he missed the first match and arrived 1 hour and 30 minuts before the 2nd match, with jet lag. 4. There is 3 reasons for why astralis played better without device. 1. At blast the maps were predefined and they only had 2 maps to play in the group stage. 2. They changed roles to something that made sense and this made them unpredictable. This with the fact that they had a new player made it impossible to predict how they played. 3. They went into the tournaments basing their entire playstyle off of their standins. 4. They didnt have any expectations at the events since they were missing one of their players which made this event to more fun than work.
2018-01-14 19:05
#531
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Portugal dracø 
It doesn't delete previous events, yet it doesn't add anything to it. In the end Fallen performed in pretty much the same level in more events. Tournament wins have a direct correlation to individual performances. Dropping 30 frags and losing and dropping 30 frags and winning because of it is not the same thing in the end. This becomes even more relevant when an IGL (that structures his team to play around cold) is matching a star player with a whole team playing around him. Also an MVP just means that you wouldn't have won without those performance. Fallen's inconsistency period comes when SK where undergoing roster changes / roles changes. Fallen sacrificed himself for the good of the team, and in the long run it paid off. Regardless of your reasons as for why astralis played better without device, the fact remains that they did. It just goes to show how good astralis system is, and it is the main reason as why device pulls this numbers. Dupreeh matches device even when everything is set up for device to shine. In the end, you'll probably come up with more arguments, I'll reply and we won't go nowhere. They are pretty even. For me fallen just takes the edge soly on being the IGL that proves that IGL's can frag.
2018-01-14 19:36
#544
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Denmark MeToxi 
Just to start. I do think that fallen is exceptionel at in-game leading but i dont think that it have much to do with this ranking. And yeah, they're pretty even. I've mentioned this in previous comments, fallen performed with no reds (refering to those stat pictures hltv is using) in 10 out of 19 events whereas not all is big events. But device has performed with no reds in 11 out of the 12 events he attended. So no, Fallen didn't perform at the same level in more events, device did. MVP does mean that they wouldn't have won without that player. But EVP means that you wouldn't have won/gotten that far without that player either. So still relevant. If we go for devices lowpoint in the first 11 events at 1.13 rating then we see that device has 11, 1.13 or above ratings out of 12 events whereas fallen has 10 out of 19 events. Fallen might've gotten more mvps than device but that doesnt change that device has a higher percentage of good events than fallen does. I can see how early 2017 was a hard time for fallen who had to restructure the entire team but how does that explain the PGL Major? EL Premier? It is true that device gets everything he needs to shine and dupreeh still matches him but i think that it is often forgotten how much devices dynamic awping is impacting how the enemy team plays. Even though they confirms he is a long on overpass they still have to be carefull that he didnt rotate to b heaven. I know, other awpers do this aswell but device is in next lvl with these mindgames. Nonetheless, i was also surprised to see fallen go lower than device since that fallen is such a great man, doing wonders for SK, making them who they are. If we include the igl stuff then i would agree that he should be 5, maybe even 4, and device should be 6 but i really dont think that it matters here.
2018-01-14 20:12
#301
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Brazil baldok1 
OVERRATED AS HELLLLLLLLLL. THIS TOP 20 IS RIDICULOUS ! HLTV DOING DRUGS FOR SURE.
2018-01-14 14:55
#302
fer | 
Brazil cyrax12 
nice joke XDD
2018-01-14 14:57
Only read the leading paragraph, lol'd so hard had to stop reading X)
2018-01-14 14:59
#307
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Brazil NOOBUSTERS 
Plays better than Fallen in ONE map, top5 by hltv danish site.
2018-01-14 14:59
Fallen major rating 1.04 with 15 maps device major rating 1.24 with 22 maps
2018-01-15 03:41
#606
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Brazil NOOBUSTERS 
Counting the major with fox?
2018-01-15 10:03
I don't understand why so many Brazilians are whining. In 2017 there were 3 teams that earned pretty much the same amount of prize money and taking turns holding the #1 spot - Astralis in the first part of the year, followed by Faze and SK in the last part of the year. SK have 3 players in top 6! Astralis 1 player. Faze 2 players. And still you're crying like babies, claiming it's biased etc.... I don't get it....
2018-01-15 15:37
#308
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Portugal gazaev 
1st: Coldzera 2nd: Niko 3rd: Rain or Fer 4th: Rain or Fer
2018-01-14 15:01
Yes I think we all know that ;)
2018-01-14 22:48
Device its not overated at all, he is an amazing player and played great in 2017, but a top5 player whithout any MVP??! And he didnt even played the last 03 big events of the year, even his stats dont explain this high position! For me its more for #7 or #8!
2018-01-14 15:01
Device is an amazing player I’m not taking the fact away that he is great at awping and whatever. But still there is no way fallen should be under as he has won multiple events in 2017 and is a igl bringing sk to number 1. Whereas device has won the major OKAY but hasn’t won as much as fallen did.
2018-01-14 15:01
Tottally agree, device is amazing and very consistent, but couldt get any MVP this year and yet did not attend to the last 03 bg events of the year, i expect him in #7 or #8, even #6 but not at all higher than fallen! Not because im brazilian but it feels that HLTV doesnt want to put 03 BR in top5 hehehehe
2018-01-14 15:05
3 Brazilians in top 6 is pretty damn impressive, taking into account that SK has not been dominant throughout the entire year and haven’t won a major. The Brazilian fans should be proud instead of whining so much.
2018-01-15 03:46
overrated
2018-01-14 15:02
#314
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Brazil GuiHawk 
Bullshit 1 Cold 2 Fallen 3 Fer 4 Rain 5 Niko 19 device
2018-01-14 15:02
#330
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Brazil Zzigg 
hahahaha I desagree. For me TACO is TOP 1. The best player in the world (Sarcasm mode on).
2018-01-14 15:09
TOP KEK while you're at it: 1. Gabriel 'FalleN' Toledo 2. Fernando 'fer' Alvarenga 3. Ricardo 'boltz' Prass 4. Marcelo 'coldzera' David 5. Epitacio 'TACO' de Melo 6. Bruno 'bit' Lima 7. Lincoln 'fnx' Lau 8. Vito 'kNgV-' Giuseppe 9. Henrique 'HEN1' Teles 10. Lucas 'LUCAS1' Teles 11. Vinicios 'PKL' Coelho 12. Gustavo 'SHOOWTiME' Gonçalves 13. Gabriel 'NEKIZ' Schenato 14. Gustavo 'yeL' Knittel 15. Marcelo 'chelo' Cespedes 16. NiKo
2018-01-14 15:35
#492
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Brazil GuiHawk 
BUddy, i typed just the reality.
2018-01-14 18:21
Wrong site. That ranking is on HLTV.BR
2018-01-15 03:47
#316
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Portugal RafaKimi 
Hltv is lying to theirselves
2018-01-14 15:03
#317
coldzera | 
Brazil Heus 
fucking overated player, astralis did better without him and with him they did almost nothing
2018-01-14 15:03
#319
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Kazakhstan ezBORAT 
nice the best TOP KEK ever
2018-01-14 15:03
#320
coldzera | 
Brazil Heus 
Also, dupreeh is a fkng better awp than dev
2018-01-14 15:03
I really no understand why device > fallen. come on, fallen play so better than
2018-01-14 15:09
#333
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Malaysia byaIi 
its ok
2018-01-14 15:09
#335
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Europe vasseldomau 
1 Coldzera 2 Niko / Fer 4 Rain
2018-01-14 15:11
#338
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China Paracios 
undeserved
2018-01-14 15:13
very underserved. No MVP Nothing special and Top5??
2018-01-14 15:13
#368
fnx | 
Norway Trypticon 
hltv.org bought and paid for by chokestralis.
2018-01-14 15:35
overrated
2018-01-14 15:18
Not deserved
2018-01-14 15:20
FalleN | Finland derolivan
2018-01-14 15:30
R I G G E D
2018-01-14 15:20
Monkeys be mad for what ever reason
2018-01-14 15:22
#569
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Netherlands !napz 
all the brazialians are losing their shit, it's hilarious xD
2018-01-14 23:17
VERY DESERVED THANK YOU HLTV BEST TOP10 EVER
2018-01-14 15:23
Devve<3
2018-01-14 15:24
not even 1 mvp and top 5 ok
2018-01-14 15:25
fallen > device rl-ez
2018-01-14 15:27
#359
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Bulgaria MaestroGOD 
device is better than fallen and kennys?? :DDDDDD
2018-01-14 15:30
#360
ZELIN | 
Portugal Cyborgy 
LULD
2018-01-14 15:32
Undeserved, FalleN > Device
2018-01-14 15:32
#364
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Malta fistAA 
undeserved. Kenny and Papa Fallen > device
2018-01-14 15:34
#365
fnx | 
Norway Trypticon 
Hah, device? What the actual fuck..
2018-01-14 15:34
Definitely deserved top 5, but not sure about being above FalleN though. Great player nonetheless!
2018-01-14 15:35
#4 rain #3 fer #2 NiKo #1 cold
2018-01-14 15:35
Average Brazilian hltv-user Top 20 ranking: 1. Gabriel 'FalleN' Toledo 2. Fernando 'fer' Alvarenga 3. Ricardo 'boltz' Prass 4. Marcelo 'coldzera' David 5. Epitacio 'TACO' de Melo 6. Bruno 'bit' Lima 7. Lincoln 'fnx' Lau 8. Vito 'kNgV-' Giuseppe 9. Henrique 'HEN1' Teles 10. Lucas 'LUCAS1' Teles 11. Vinicios 'PKL' Coelho 12. Gustavo 'SHOOWTiME' Gonçalves 13. Gabriel 'NEKIZ' Schenato 14. Gustavo 'yeL' Knittel 15. Marcelo 'chelo' Cespedes 999. device 1000. NiKo
2018-01-14 15:36
Lol, very funny, but take taco out of that list Have a lovely day VeryLovelyGuy!
2018-01-14 16:05
#474
chrisJ | 
Macau stg1 
Even that ranking is better than HLTV's joke of ranking, Device over kenny and FalleN, what a fucking joke lol
2018-01-14 17:16
OMEGALUL
2018-01-14 15:39
#378
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Brazil d4vid20 
HLTV is a joke, huehuehuehue
2018-01-14 15:40
LOLOLOLLLLLLL DEVICE IS TOP 5 HAHAHAHHAHA WHAT A JOKE!!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHA You made me laugh so hard fucking stupid HLTV
2018-01-14 15:40
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
2018-01-14 15:41
#383
Dosia | 
Vietnam Oida 
now: Rain - Fer - Niko - Coldzera 100%100%
2018-01-14 15:42
#385
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Europe treyhard 
LUL s1mple, FalleN > dev1ce
2018-01-14 15:42
undeserved
2018-01-14 15:44
#390
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Sweden sowhee 
devveking <3 deserved, if he recently played he would've been higher in the ranking
2018-01-14 15:46
#394
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Poland Ventura1777 
4. Niko, 3. Fer, 2. Rain, 1. Coldzera?
2018-01-14 15:47
N1
2018-01-14 15:48
#397
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Sweden 4Sweeeden 
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAH HLTV, what the fuck is wrong with you??? Its obv that Device didnt deserve #5 LOL
2018-01-14 15:48
#400
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Ukraine ph3n0m3n 
quarter of year in the hospital missing all latest events ez rating boost
2018-01-14 15:49
#403
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Brazil beaviz1 
Device???????? Mvp???? hahaha.... FalleN win 2 Mvp....
2018-01-14 15:53
Please, just dont cry, they choose better player, theyre experts youre only fanboy alright?
2018-01-14 15:54
I don’t like device or fallen (or sk in general) but it’s obvious that device is worse than fallen Also worse than kennys (neither I am a g2 fan)
2018-01-14 16:15
ROFLTOPHLTV
2018-01-14 15:54
Expected from a Danish page
2018-01-14 15:56
HAHAH
2018-01-14 15:57
Devve underrated
2018-01-14 16:00
#411
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Brazil h1tL 
FalleN > Device in the game, to hltv not, Device was only a md3 better than the FalleN in the Major PGL '' only ''!
2018-01-14 16:01
#417
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Brazil vicTHOR 
fallen had a rough early 2017 devve deserves to be #5 over fallen
2018-01-14 16:04
#414
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Brazil Broodht 
Overrated without MVP Nice bait hltv
2018-01-14 16:02
Fallen 8 titles / Device 2 titles Fallen 2 MVPs / Device 0 MVPs Fallen monsters in finals / Device choked at Major, Katowice, Blast and Eleague Premiere finals Fallen had more first kills Fallen is still IGL Congratulations HLTV for losing the rest of your credibility!!
2018-01-14 16:04
#422
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Norway NoregNik 
Typical HLTV what do you expect.
2018-01-14 16:08
#445
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Brazil h1tL 
+1
2018-01-14 16:22
Wasnt even at blast but kk
2018-01-15 01:52
The community is split. Half the people agree, the other half disagree. I agree with this prediction because everyone that disagrees with is is not using legit arguments, most of them are just fanboying FalleN or other players..
2018-01-14 16:06
#425
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Norway NoregNik 
And you're fanboying Astralis and Device. Even Xypex was better than Device this year. Device as always choked in the Finals. Just like #415 said. FalleN did way better than Device this year. Device is overrated and overhyped. #FACT
2018-01-14 16:10
so no arguments used.. thats exactly why im supporting device in this case no im not "fanboying him" i am the one that is actually capable of providing stats as to why device is higher than fallen, meanwhile sk fans use things like "xantares should be top 1 then... " or "fallen has more mvps" not understanding how statistics work and what individual performance really means.
2018-01-14 16:11
#437
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Norway NoregNik 
Lol you're talking like FalleN has no statistics. Where are the statistics for Device in the Finals of the Major? Even in the semis with Gambit at PGL? And you basically didn't state shit and you're talking like you got some facts and shit? Miss me with that BS boy. Keep fanboying. I', not even a SK fan, nor IDK who's fan. I'm just being real. Device doesn't deserve #5.
2018-01-14 16:14
#448
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Europe vasseldomau 
Half agree??? Are you serious?? Are you reading all the foruns around CS community?? Almost everybody know it was a completely joke by HLTV, a shit danish site!
2018-01-14 16:27
#451
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Europe vasseldomau 
Fallen 8 titles / Device 2 titles Fallen 2 MVPs / Device 0 MVPs Fallen monsters in finals / Device choked at Major, Katowice and Eleague Premiere finals Fallen had more first kills Fallen is still IGL Congratulations HLTV for losing the rest of your credibility!! I was the first to point this in this website. And I could point another reasons for this shit thats Device on Top 5.
2018-01-14 16:30
#426
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Norway NoregNik 
O-V-E-R-R-A-T-E-D
2018-01-14 16:10
#428
boltz | 
Brazil fcellos 
Dunno, just think that fallen was better than him this year, BUT fallen was destroyed by device in the PGL MAJOR, especially on that overpass, I think that weighted a lot for hltv.
2018-01-14 16:11
#430
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Brazil guihqrz 
he don't win one mvp title kkkkkkkkkkkk
2018-01-14 16:11
5th is not bad when being sick 1/4 of the year. Hope to see him back strong at the major!
2018-01-14 16:12
#433
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United Kingdom PsychoWren 
Fallen wasn't in great form for a lot of this year, so I don't know why people are so surprised to see Device beat him in the rankings...
2018-01-14 16:13
Undeserved
2018-01-14 16:13
#441
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France rezpecful 
4 rain 3 fer 2 Niko 1 coldzera
2018-01-14 16:19
it is a joke, he doesn't deserve it
2018-01-14 16:19
#450
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Denmark clutchkongen 
Stfu swedish Cunt, you’r scene is dead.
2018-01-14 16:28
xD
2018-01-15 05:04
undeserved.
2018-01-14 16:20
#444
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Palestine menezeslucas 
OMELALUL
2018-01-14 16:21
#447
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Denmark clutchkongen 
Should have been top 1, without a doubt the best player in the world
2018-01-14 16:27
XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
2018-01-14 16:28
#453
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Brazil BuddyINSANE 
Cool!
2018-01-14 16:35
#454
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Europe vasseldomau 
Undeserved Period!
2018-01-14 16:37
Devve god
2018-01-14 16:39
fucking danish website every year overrating this shit player not even top10
2018-01-14 16:46
#459
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Brazil inc_eax 
Device > Fallen? nt hltv, but no
2018-01-14 16:48
#462
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Australia weapon_ 
Coldzera Niko Fer Rain . . . .
2018-01-14 16:51
+1
2018-01-14 16:51
#465
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Bulgaria d1ppel 
devve n1
2018-01-14 16:58
such an angry and toxic community jesus, I'm really glad that I'm avoiding to read most of comments, anyway good job device , keep on delivering and keep on haters talking
2018-01-14 17:12
what a joke lol
2018-01-14 17:15
Fallen had better statistics and achievements.
2018-01-14 17:16
Device is my MVP for 2017. :>
2018-01-14 17:19
danish website LUL
2018-01-14 17:27
#478
fnx | 
Portugal lovessd 
this joke lulll don't even deserve a top 10
2018-01-14 17:27
HLTV what a joke! Device Rating 1.18 in 12 events = #5 Fallen Rating 1.13 in 19 events = #6 So if somebody get a 1.5 rating playing just one event in the year = #1 OMEGA LUL!
2018-01-14 17:35
How much for Cry? Oh wait cry is free.
2018-01-14 18:33
#484
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United States ViKaLiBuR 
1 - 1.Coldzera 2.NiKo 3.Fer 4.Rain 2 - WHERE IS MY BOY EPITACIO TACO?
2018-01-14 17:47
#485
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Sweden godname 
WADA JOKE LOL HAHAHA
2018-01-14 17:49
#486
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Poland sajlent 
lol butthurted sk fans device was more consistent than fallen, especially at the beginning of 2017 thus he is 5th and FalleN 6th. Also, Astralis won the first major in 2017. SK didn't win a single one.
2018-01-14 18:16
#491
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Finland jUPPE! 
The fact that dev1ce was absent from so many events should have affected his placing. No way can you put him above Fallen when he skipped so many events.
2018-01-14 18:19
#494
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Europe sq4ne 
All those monkeys in the comment's. lmao xd
2018-01-14 18:26
#503
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Brazil MommyStealer 
And the hltv explanation is the best thing ''dev1ce is top5 cuz of stats" xdxdxdxd
2018-01-14 18:38
#506
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Brazil Collee 
FalleN deserved a lot more. Device was just a bit more consistent and better individually. Nothing that makes up for the amount of tournaments FalleN won + being igl + having 2 MVPs against 0. FalleN > device and rain. Also I don't know why do they count Clash for Cash as a tournament won rofl
2018-01-14 18:48
#507
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Brazil AfKW 
FalleN is more player than device in all aspects you cant compare just a joke
2018-01-14 18:53
#509
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Europe Vallon 
HAHAHAHA CRY MONKEYS devve > Wallen, every time - anytime.
2018-01-14 18:55
last 4 - cold rain niko fer
2018-01-14 19:01
lmao are you retarded? Its cold niko fer rain
2018-01-15 04:12
FalleN > Device ROFL Hltv.org Danish woners
2018-01-14 19:06
#523
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Macedonia AstralisGoat 
High rating low impact player, this guy is over rated every year nothing new here. Edit: Can we also get a new rating 3.0 or something there is no way you can't see how fucking shit this rating system is and how flawed it is, Device has higher impact rating than Fallen even though fallen won more clutches and more entries does that make any sense to anyone?
2018-01-14 19:25
fallen was way better, he has won mvp...
2018-01-14 19:46
#541
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Brazil unknownnnow 
device eat many ''PPKs'' but gabriel fallen only one. ps FNX king o PPKs hahaha vodka
2018-01-14 19:57
#551
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Denmark Whispyy 
Deserved
2018-01-14 20:33
Device is good.. but Fallen... <3
2018-01-14 20:36
bias thread, martin or batistuta are responsible, coldzera, fer and niko, but who are other 2? shox and rain?
2018-01-14 20:39
nice joke if device is #5 then that makes xypx # minus 5 because that's how much better he was than device
2018-01-14 20:42
so evp > mvp nice logic hltv
2018-01-14 21:13
DansGame
2018-01-14 23:03
i like Device but he>Fallen and Kenny?DanisHTV lul
2018-01-14 23:17
fallen's shitty first half of the year = device's shitty second half of the year. 8 titles for Fallen against 3 titles for device. Even if SK roaster is better than Astralis, without Fallen as IGL they wouldn`t have won any tournament this year. Nice logic hltv
2018-01-14 23:44
#579
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Europe vasseldomau 
Device only 2 tournaments Clash for Cash wasnt a tournament.
2018-01-15 02:48
#572
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Brazil Pdr0_ 
Device top 5 Fallen top 6 really? nick joke
2018-01-15 00:14
Can't understand the logic. fallen > device this year for sure. and my opinion cold #1 rain #2 fer #3 Niko #4
2018-01-15 04:35
Overrated, should be top10 at MAX
2018-01-15 05:43
If device was playing all year, maybe he deserves it But since he (unfortunately, due to injury) wasn’t. I really don’t think device deserves Top 5 If anything, snax keeping his Top 5 position is far more reasonable and logical than letting a wheelchair player like device (at the moment) since he at least saw the year out unlike device who was in and out during 2017 Don’t get me wrong, device is a great player, but come on, that’s like giving GeT_RiGhT or f0rest number 5 for showing up for about a month or two. MAX Undeserved. Xyp9x and k0nfig must be at home in Denmark with their minds utterly blown
2018-01-15 09:42
#614
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Europe vasseldomau 
Device played good - 2017 Fallen played GOD - 2017
2018-01-15 11:23
simple is the only 1 who didnot get good team result in top 10. cold1st niko2ed fer 3rd rain4th
2018-01-15 13:23
#624
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Finland 7259yrret 
HLTV.dk PRODUCTION
2018-01-15 14:29
#641
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Sweden cRUNCHiBOY 
Who dis guy is? never seen him play in 2017 wtf hltv corrupto
2018-01-15 21:16
#643
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Czech Republic ShKIFFy 
Sorry? Where Is NIP? Huh? What about REZ or Draken or Forester? Wtf hltv?
2018-01-16 18:09
#644
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Brazil baldok1 
Forgot mentioning 2nd at Blast HLTV He didn't played but it's a team achievment
2018-01-16 21:33
#645
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Kazakhstan GeoHot 
I bet HLTV gave him 5th place cuz hes hot af. Literally i would lick his ass
2018-01-19 13:50
lul
2018-01-19 21:34
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