RUSH: "My ultimate goal was Legends status, but I think we can get top four"

We had a quick chat with Will "RUSH" Wierzba after Cloud9 advanced to the playoffs at the ELEAGUE Major with a win over Vega Squadron in the last round of the Swiss group stage.

Cloud9 began their journey at the ELEAGUE Major with two losses in a row, but with their backs against the wall, the Americans came back from behind to advance to the playoffs following three comfortable matches, eliminating, Astralis, and Vega Squadron.

RUSH talks Cloud9's journey from 0-2 to 3-2

After their last match, we sat down with William "RUSH" Wierzba and asked him about how the team managed to reset following the early losses. He also went over what Cloud9 will do over the next three days and the team's goals for the playoffs in Boston.

The interview took place before ELEAGUE drew the quarter-final matchups.

You started out 0-2 here and managed to come back with three quick wins, how were you able to reset and keep the pressure away?

Well, the first match versus G2, I think Tim said in the previous interview that we probably did too much prep work and that kind of bit us in the ass. We were expecting them to play differently and they actually countered us and they did well, for example we went A a lot and they were playing truck for retake, which is a good setup versus what we were doing. So they obviously did their homework and they played super well, NBK was playing super well.

And then Space Soldiers, I think that was a lot closer, I think we should have won, because there were a lot of clutches that we lost and people weren't on individually. We lost two antiecos as well, so that compounded into a game that we probably should have won, but credit to Space Soldiers, they played their hearts out and they'll probably make it through, if they beat mousesports.

From then on, we knew that we were still at our peak individually, so we just played our own game from then on, versus VP, Astralis, and Vega Squadron. We didn't necessarily do a ton of homework, we did like minimal homework on what their basic setups where, but we focused more on ourselves overall to make sure we didn't get in our own heads.

You now have a couple of days off, is there anything that you'll focus on specifically, or is it just going to be practice as usual and ironing out mistakes?

We'll practice if we can, if we have time, for sure, scrimming is always very important. But I think like I said before, focusing on our own game is important, maybe adding new strats, because we may have a little bit of time while we're in Boston. But if we find out who we play, obviously we'll also do some homework on them, if we have time.

A big story of your run was Skadoodle finally breaking his streak at Majors, did you get a reaction out of him, at least a smile?

Well, I could tell throughout this entire Major, even the Challengers stage and this stage, that he was really a different player and person, he was into every game, after every kill he was cheering, he was hitting so many shots, he was a completely different player than he normally is. I'm really happy to see that come out of him and after we won I could see like pure joy on his face, I'm really happy more than anything that we did this for him.

Going into the playoffs, what are you aiming for here? Previously you mentioned Legends status being a big goal, how has that changed?

My ultimate goal was to get Legends status, but I think that we can get top four. I don't think it matters who we play, honestly, obviously FaZe and SK are super good, but I still think that our map pool will allow us to have a good game versus them. For me, I think we can get top four, but obviously we could still win it as well, you never know.

United States William 'RUSH' Wierzba
William 'RUSH' Wierzba
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nice one
2018-01-23 04:55
> vs G2 gl
2018-01-23 04:55
Brazil marcosnogram 
In other words, "i think we can win g2, but we wont win sk"
2018-01-26 13:56
nbl | 
Europe MrAllu 
2018-01-23 04:55
True you probably never heard of that term since Optic can only play online qualifiers.
2018-01-23 04:57
zehN | 
African Union slcwpcke 
2018-01-23 05:32
Sweden TomodachiOM 
Jesus, that was brutal XD
2018-01-23 06:48
New Zealand Duck_Meat 
2018-01-23 10:10
Rest in peace
2018-01-23 22:40
Germany Payynnkilla 
2018-01-24 07:03
United States (Fr0st) 
Nt Friberg
2018-01-23 04:59
NA OpTic dumps on the EU version
2018-01-23 05:18
United States LarrcasM 
He's the player who hard carried OpTic to their only win in CS. I don't think you're allowed to talk shit about him.
2018-01-23 05:29
NAF was godlike too, in fact all of them were on fire individually
2018-01-23 08:33
United States LarrcasM 
NAF only carried in the final. RUSH was inarguably their best player throughout the event as a whole. There wasn't even a discussion for someone else as the MVP.
2018-01-23 09:02
OpTic also won Northern Arena vs G2
2018-01-23 14:17
United States LarrcasM 
T2 event. Every good team went to IEM Oakland, which was like 2 days later. The only reason G2 was there was because they didn't qualify. And that's not the G2 with kenny, apex, and NBK...that's the one with SmithzZz and ScreaM where shox was the only remotely consistent player just so we're clear.
2018-01-23 19:07
Are tier 2 events not events now?
2018-01-23 23:35
United States LarrcasM 
I mean if you're going to talk about wins for an org, if you're bragging about an event like Northern Arena, your standards are too low.
2018-01-24 00:49
Am I bragging or am I asking if tier 2 events are not events? You said they only won 1 event
2018-01-25 00:14
United States LarrcasM 
fine. They won 1 impressive event.
2018-01-25 06:43
Switzerland Andro7789 
against g2 not ez my dude
2018-01-23 04:55
United States gtmaniacmda 
secret agent rpk to give all of g2 ebola
2018-01-23 05:17
Switzerland Andro7789 
hahhahahaa xD
2018-01-23 05:17
Ukraine kramk0s 
It will be very interested and gratz game.
2018-01-23 09:52
North America khansab2000 
2018-01-23 06:27
Naw not at all hopefully it's a good game though
2018-01-24 22:57
You mean major winners? ty.
2018-01-23 04:55
Iceland caverat 
2018-01-23 04:55
United Arab Emirates Emory10 
Love yo u rush congrats skadaddy
2018-01-23 04:55
Germany JeanKanne 
i want to be #1 at some point :(
2018-01-23 04:55
China LKmonstA 
rip g2 e
2018-01-23 04:56
Rush the realest nigga as always
2018-01-23 04:56
Yeah, they could do this. With G2 against them, it's like 50-50. I respect French CS, it in fact was the first pro CS I ever seen that excited me so much. But C9 looked great lately.
2018-01-23 04:56
Did you watch the early stages of major ? How did they look great lol
2018-01-23 06:58
3-0? Frenchie OD'd on baguettes?
2018-01-23 09:13
United Kingdom daneclaw 
They won against VP, Astralis and Vega and all of them have been playing shit.
2018-01-26 13:21
2018-01-27 01:02
Poland DominnX26 
Clown 9 amazing luck in group stage They play vs shit vp shit astralis and vega...
2018-01-23 10:08
New Zealand Duck_Meat 
Virtus pro got qbf and c9 got g2. In the first round. LUCK.
2018-01-23 10:15
Won't u stfu?
2018-01-23 17:37
Norway rogueplayer 
u think? u better deliver then, lets go c9, hyped af
2018-01-23 04:56
EliGE | 
United States Jono13 
2018-01-23 04:56
Jame | 
Russia z1vver 
lul finals will be SK/FaZe vs QBF
2018-01-23 14:29
Twistzz | 
Estonia dev2ce 
top 4 lol
2018-01-23 04:58
ableJ | 
Bangladesh DisableJ 
I aren't think that
2018-01-23 04:59
atleast a smile LUL
2018-01-23 05:03
Finland kelvinha 
That's why NA never will win a major, "I think we can get top four", fuck off. But RUSH is a great guy, love him
2018-01-23 05:05
AMEN Brother! Read my comment below. #25
2018-01-23 05:09
Finland kelvinha 
+1, nice comment my brother, champions don't think like that
2018-01-23 05:11
If I were the C9 coach or owner and read that I'd be on the phone right away calling a meeting and chewing their butts out to inspire them that they can win if they are willing to fight and believe they can!
2018-01-23 05:14
What's wrong with "top four"? Just asking :)
2018-01-23 05:12
Finland kelvinha 
Nothing, but you can't go to playoffs with that thought, they need to believe in themselves, they have to come up with a thought that they can win, I know, it's hard, but not impossible
2018-01-23 05:18
United States pepehands420 
+1, winners know theyre going to win. i guarantee SK expects to win it all right now even with a stand-in. NA just lacks confidence right now
2018-01-23 05:33
Pretty sure SK are here just for the invite for the next Major. They can get eliminated now and win the next 5 events like last year and it will be fine.
2018-01-23 10:44
+1 true, cold said himself in his AMA that theyr goal in this major was legend spot, and maybe if the other teams let sk play it ways, win the tournament
2018-01-23 12:23
Yeah, same as a year ago. I don't think they will just drop dead, I'm sure they will do their best to win and they can win for sure, but they should know the chances are slim, especially if G2 don't fail vs C9, since G2 are the only team which has been able to consistently beat SK.
2018-01-23 13:29
This comment thread didn't age too well.
2018-01-31 09:19
humility is another thing people sometimes need. thats why fnatics downfall was so great. some of these guys won pro league on brazil against sk with that mindset. rush and tarik won eleague with optic against astralis with the same mindset as well.(;apart from when they played faze they dissed them a lot) fallen was the same when they were keyd. after that quarter final against vp they realized how good they were and started grinding it. humility is good. fuck old fnatic and faze and cocky attitudes.
2018-01-23 05:18
Australia SUNSPY 
Yeah, it's so much better than being cocky. Doesn't mean they don't believe in themselves or some shit.. I guess people find it hard not to label everything in their life, no grey areas are allowed to exist.
2018-01-23 05:23
2018-01-23 12:23
Denmark Xipingu 
2018-01-24 16:06
Lets not act like just because he says they can make top four that they're not gonna play like they're out for blood. RUSH is a humble man. Make no mistake: Cloud9 are shooting for number 1 just like Team Liquid is. The days of streamer NA are over
2018-01-23 14:19
Finland Alko^ 
to be honest they dont even have chance to get double digits vs g2
2018-01-23 14:25
United States cananigfrag 
Maybe 5 rounds per map? 5-16, 5-16, ez double digits
2018-01-24 09:48
Finland Alko^ 
yes thats possible
2018-01-24 14:10
Looks like those double digits were pretty possible :-)
2018-01-31 10:05
Finland Alko^ 
Wow na finally won a major still shit
2018-01-31 10:13
Keep living in the past man! ez for c9.
2018-01-31 10:59
Finland Alko^ 
NA 1 good team 5 good players and the rest are trash, like you
2018-01-31 11:12
The US+Canada have 2 pretty sick teams. Sweden and the rest of Scandanavia has 1 pretty sick team and 1 decent team. But let's not forgot you guys won majors years ago! So sad you never ever will again :(
2018-02-01 10:46
Finland Alko^ 
Pretty sick teams? Only 1 team in playoffs. NiP won IEM Oakland, fnatic got playoffs at major, thats 2 good swedish teams. NA has won nothing in recent 2 years only this major.
2018-02-01 14:52
NiP lost to TEAMFIVE and other nonamers and couldn't even qualify for the majors The best Fnatic did was match the accomplishment of QBF, very nice. Major > IEM Oakland if you didn't know :)
2018-02-02 09:37
Finland Alko^ 
Winning tier1 event > getting to playoffs of major
2018-02-02 14:19
FalleN | 
France nyygma 
Great run C9, but against G2 that's a no, I love you tho
2018-01-23 05:06
Finland kelvinha 
+1, ez for my french brothers
2018-01-23 05:11
Thanks for your kind words, Lafayette.
2018-01-23 05:20
damn, we won the major
2018-02-15 23:48
Weak comment. Some may say realistic but screw that. If C9 doesn't think they can win then most likely they won't. It means they don't have the heart to fight for it. Anything can happen. Why make a stupid comment like "I think we can get top 4". No champion ever became so by thinking they were 2nd, 3rd, or 4th best. There are so many examples in competitive history where teams or people who were never supposed to win did so. What is this weak-good-enough-limp-wristed-attitude this generation coming up now has. It disgusts me! Lost some of the respect I had for RUSH.
2018-01-23 05:09
Australia SUNSPY 
I think he's just being realistic. They are going to give it their all, but it'd be stupid to ignore the might of FaZe, felpsSK and G2
2018-01-23 05:21
Still, he shouldn't say that publicly. He should say he thinks they can win and there goal is to win. People might laugh and say you have no chance but the fact is they do have a chance. No respected coach of any team or person would ever tolerate their players saying 2nd best is ok. It's just not an attitude that produces champions and it shows weakness. I'm sure C9 will in their mind try their best but it's a psychological thing that happens when you've already conceded that 2nd, 3rd, or 4th is good enough. They will claim to have done their best but deep down it's not true. I could write a book on what I'm talking about but HLTV isn't the place for it. Just go read the book of any champion or watch interviews etc. and they will all say that one of the number things all champions have in common is the belief and determination to be so. Like I said, there are many examples of people being massive underdogs but still finding a way to win despite the odds and common sense of what should have happened.
2018-01-23 05:30
Stewie2K | 
North America Xheng 
It's REALLY risky to put yourself in the spotlight like that. Honestly, if you go into university thinking you have to be the smartest person there, you''re gonna attract a lot of unwanted pressure. There really is no right answer. It's good to be ambitious, but you also got to set a bar so you don't go too hard on yourself and start beating yourself up really badly. They all want to win it really badly, but I think this really relates to the 1st point they made about doing too much homework. They just get too focused and might end up "choking," which happens often with that mindset. Additionally, there are plenty of books that contradict that point, (I believe Rose Namajuanas, before she destroyed JJ, said she has hopes of beating her but was never too vocal about it). Actually, many books have people believing they can become the best once they are actually in the process of being the best. It's not something you should think about when you are nowhere close. Which is why he says they CAN win it all..(League example, bear with me, but TSM vs C9 at Worlds).
2018-01-23 05:41
I agree with some of what you said except your using university as an example. School isn't a competition and anyone looking at it as so is making a mistake. As far as books being written that contradict others -- well, of course. But it's about choosing the opinion and attitude that best fits the occasion and what will produce the best results. I can argue on all sides of any issue I'm knowledgeable about but it doesn't mean all the perspectives are equally true. Truth is singular since if truth weren't singular it would prove truth doesn't exist -- since truth can't contradict itself. But, that's opening a broad topic which would need many hours to even begin to do any justice to.
2018-01-23 05:47
Stewie2K | 
North America Xheng 
A lot of students these days see school as competition for the same exact reason though: winner's mentality. Also your notion on truth; that topic you're talking about will never really lead to an answer. A lot of philosophy profs will say that the truth is also hidden beneath a lot of lies. Truth is singular, and some sources hold more truth than others, but truth is also spread out, and shaped by perspective all the time, making it less objective and more subjective. Point is, there really isn't an answer.
2018-01-23 05:48
No one can argue against the reality that truth must be singular if truth is to exist at all. OF course, people can claim truth doesn't exist, that it's hidden in mystical ways, and so on. But I am not talking about its source, or its conclusion, but I'm talking about its nature. Reality teaches us truth exists -- it's extremely easy to prove this; and common sense teaches us that truth is singular (there can't be opposing truths). Anyone arguing against this either doesn't understand the subject, or is trying to create confusion.
2018-01-23 05:57
Why did this get so deep so quick???
2018-01-23 15:15
It just happened naturally.
2018-01-23 15:49
2018-01-23 12:46
United Kingdom jMz86 
Media answers =/= real thoughts.... This is all media training bro, they are told what they can and can't say. I have no doubts that C9 believe that they can win the tournament... there is no reason for them to put any added pressure on themselves if it's not needed. Plus you don't want to say to media; I think we are going to win, then you bomb out pretty badly, it looks poor in public. Pretty sure that C9 have mental coaches as well so they should be in a good frame of mind to win games. Just comes down to who is better on the day.
2018-01-23 12:27
See: k0nfig
2018-01-23 14:21
Australia SUNSPY 
Yeah definitely could beat G2, obviously it could happen.. but I'm not gonna risk gold pickem on them, FaZe to win major over G2 or SK imo
2018-01-23 05:19
Im actualy 100% positive that theyll make top4 if they beat g2, lul
2018-01-23 05:47
Interesting thought.. maybe if they win the grand final they will almost certainly win this major as well?
2018-01-23 06:26
Sounds pretty realistic! We can only hope so
2018-01-23 14:45
India MistaJ 
2018-01-23 06:00
World euqin 
Short answer: no Long answer: nope Don't be cocky
2018-01-23 06:52
It's gonna be hard against G2 in Bo3, but Gl regardless.
2018-01-23 07:05
easy fucking sweep
2018-02-15 23:47
not when they saw g2 vs c9
2018-01-23 08:07
Poland Saaellor 
Playing against G2 once again this time in BO3 will be really hard. I believe C9 will beat them.
2018-01-23 08:42
If shox doesnt destroy them mb
2018-01-23 09:46
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Israel Andre___ 
LOL top 4? what a joke
2018-01-23 10:31
Bangladesh drvken 
gonna be very hard but possible/ g2 is not most stable team
2018-01-25 21:20
Finland Cumhur2004 
2018-01-31 11:02
Were in the era where teams don't even care about winning the only thing they care about is securing sticker money for the next event.
2018-01-23 10:36
United States jaeger_steam 
We're in an era where teams realize they can't win so at least want to secure next major and sticker money*** Faze and SK, and now seemingly g2 are the only real title contenders now, everyone else is clearly a level below. Even if you can beat them in an odd bo1 or a very close series like mouz put up against faze, there's no real hope of winning a tournament, especially with all three of them still in it. Not saying it can't happen, but they chances are way too low to actually reasonably believe it.
2018-01-23 17:22
What do you mean they realize they can't win? C9 can beat any team at this event but they just don't care, they dont care about winning, the only thing they care about is sticker money. If Gambit can win a major literally any team can.
2018-01-23 20:32
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Yugoslavia mrmojo 
You can't get top4 cause u got drawn with a tier1 team in form and u suck =D
2018-01-23 14:20
United States cananigfrag 
>tier1 team in form >G2, who beat C9, Liquid, and Vega to get to legends pick one
2018-01-24 10:00
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Yugoslavia mrmojo 
G2 #4 ranked team in the world who blew away everything in their path at this major so far. Can easily be considered a top team in form, but maybe too hard to comprehend for you. If you need a more detailed explanation do tell, but I doubt it will make a difference. You are geographically impaired.
2018-01-24 13:11
United States cananigfrag 
>can easily be considered a top team in form >G2, who beat C9, Liquid, and Vega to get to legends pick one
2018-01-24 20:02
Norway duffz00r 
Top2 - u heard it here
2018-01-23 14:47
Bangladesh drvken 
2018-01-25 21:20
Lol if you beat G2 you should be going to the finals
2018-01-23 16:11
"My ultimate goal was to get Legends status, but I think that we can get top four." What an idiot. C9 playing like utter dog shit and now he says that they only lost against G2 because G2 did their homework. Whats that kind of an excuse? You guys didn't lost because G2 did prep, you guys lost because you are shitty and turok is only one whos hitting his shots.
2018-01-23 16:48
North America Foxaika 
This isn't even correct. Did you even watch the games? Tarik the only one hitting shots? What?
2018-01-23 20:05 Turok: 26/17 RUSH (2nd best Player): 14/19
2018-01-23 23:44
North America Foxaika 
Did you watch all the games lol? Nice job picking those cherries, but there's the rest of the orchard too. Edit: I'll do some of the work for you
2018-01-23 23:51
Nice being such an idiot. Hes playing on an top level and he is IGL so it isnt that bad to be bottomfragger some times.
2018-01-23 23:51
North America Foxaika 
I didn't say he wasn't playing well, nor did I say that he couldn't bottom frag. But you're implying that the rest of the team hasn't show up, which is demonstrably false. I apologize if you can't follow the conversation, I'll slow down for you if necessary.
2018-01-24 00:18
"But you're implying that the rest of the team hasn't show up" In that G2 match they actually didn't showed up, only Turok and thats not because they had a bad day, they lost because G2 is just too strong and in those moments turok gives up his responsibilities and plays an lurking/entry fragging role and he fucked G2. The rest couldnt do any shit and it will be the same in that BO3
2018-01-24 14:01
North America Foxaika 
You used present tense, which implied you were talking about their entire body of work, not one match. That's the fault of your communication. I don't get why picking one game in particular makes more sense anyway. Shoddy logic at best. And again, I'm not saying Tarik is playing poorly or something. I'm saying you're being disingenuous about Cloud9's performance this tournament, implying that no other player has played well and picked one game to show it. Keep calling me names though, really shows your intellectual prowess. Juvenile, quite frankly.
2018-01-24 19:11
And another thing, "Nice job picking those cherries, but there's the rest of the orchard too." The G2 match isn't cherry picking you degenerated idiot, it was a tough game and tarik showed up. Its fucking biased to use convincingly won matches by C9 (where the opponent team doesnt even win 7 round) to show that Tarik contributed nothing or to show his bad stats. If you would have an idea, you would know that in games where your team is recking the opponent team, that there are always players who dont show up just because they know its easy to win and there is no need to try hard so they play lean back and give their teammates the possibilty to show up - Tarik did that in those easy matches so you are implying, that the rest of the team showed up and tarik not, by showing easy convincingly matches that they won against lower teams. Bravo. You are a real NA guy, of course knowing shit about the real game, no wonder your region is so shitty. Here another rational Match analysis: Very tough match against EnvyUs Tarik is top fragging, whats with the other guys? Ez match against shit german team, Tarik is 2nd best Pretty good match, C9 outplayed the better mouz Tarik again topfragger Next match is G2, tarik topfragger again, the rest let tarik down. Very tough match, they lost, tarik again topfragger and again nobody showed up And NOW YOU ARE TAKING 2 MATCHES AGAINST EASY OPPONENTS (ASTRALIS OBVIOUSLY NOT GOOD ANYMORE) AND ACCUSING ME OF "PICKING CHERRIES" HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAH Fucking idiot, you C9 Team is shit, without tarik they would be out of the tournament in challenger stage already but its ok to be an idiot an to think that everybody of your fav team is contributing something and discredit the best player by that.
2018-01-24 14:13
North America Foxaika 
I don't get this argument of me discrediting Tarik. I am only saying he isn't the end all like you are. It's very likely the team gets knocked out if the other players are "replacement level" as well. Your reasoning isn't sensible here. You're arguing against an argument I never even made.
2018-01-24 19:17
LMFAO, they won the major
2018-02-15 23:47
France Fran6k1D 
LMAOOO G2-0 inc bye bye c9
2018-01-23 17:40
North America Foxaika 
Just like at Eleague
2018-01-23 19:49
United States Globebuster 
2018-01-23 21:39
United States hehexddd 
ya fucked up
2018-01-31 10:08
c9 can beat G2 if the players are in a good day,
2018-01-23 20:13
United States Globebuster 
2018-01-23 21:38
China iloveoov__ 
After seeing the draw with Vega, damn
2018-01-23 23:22
Other Cruujed 
I aren't think so.
2018-01-23 23:55
2018-01-24 12:20
Denmark Xipingu 
A little too early to think that considering you don't know which G2 will show up... But yeye will be a great match anyways.
2018-01-24 16:06
keep dreaming
2018-01-25 10:22
2018-01-27 01:08
2018-01-27 10:35
United States hehexddd 
2018-01-31 10:07
lmao those bitches think they will beat g2 omegalul
2018-01-25 13:50
2018-01-27 01:07
United States hehexddd 
2018-01-31 10:07
United States (Fr0st) 
Rush now. “I think we can become Finalists.”
2018-01-28 04:14
Damn they were playing for legends then ended up winning the ACTUAL thing GG
2018-01-29 02:11
Rush: think we can win the next one as well
2018-01-31 11:01
Rush: i think we can go 88:0
2018-01-31 11:15
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