The Majors: Ideas for the future

With the ELEAGUE Major in Boston behind us, we asked different members of the community to share their thoughts on what could be done so future Majors remain the most prestigious events of the circuit.

After three long weeks in Atlanta and Boston, the first tournament of the new year, and the first Major of the two this year, is behind us. Looking back, the ELEAGUE Major left us several great memories including one of the most memorable finals in the history of the Majors, the crowning of the first North American team as Major champions, and the story of Quantum Bellator Fire, a rag-tag CIS team that went from being the tournament underdogs to finishing top 8.

The Majors have been criticized for not being as prestigious as in the past

Looking towards the future, we asked several community members to give their input on how Valve's flagship tournament can remain the game's crown jewel. Players Gabriel "FalleN" Toledo, Nathan "NBK-" Schmitt, Finn "karrigan" Andersen, and Martin "STYKO" Styk, as well as coach Wilton "zews" Prado and broadcast talent Anders "Anders" Blume, Jason "moses" O'Toole, and Janko "YNk" Paunović give their thoughts on CS:GO's biggest events of the year.

Some of the topics discussed in the video are the Minors, 24-team Majors, sticker money and new ways to fund the prize pool, tournament formats, and coaching, among others. Watch the video below:

Brazil Wilton 'zews' Prado
Wilton 'zews' Prado
Age:
32
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
0.80
Maps played:
142
KPR:
0.53
DPR:
0.69
APR:
0.13
France Nathan 'NBK-' Schmitt
Nathan 'NBK-' Schmitt
Age:
25
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
1.04
Maps played:
1652
KPR:
0.70
DPR:
0.66
APR:
0.15
Serbia Janko 'YNk' Paunović
Janko 'YNk' Paunović
Age:
27
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
0.97
Maps played:
117
KPR:
0.67
DPR:
0.70
APR:
0.13
United States Jason 'moses' O'Toole
Jason 'moses' O'Toole
Age:
-
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
0.93
Maps played:
18
KPR:
0.64
DPR:
0.71
APR:
0.15
Brazil Gabriel 'FalleN' Toledo
Gabriel 'FalleN' Toledo
Age:
28
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.09
Maps played:
1154
KPR:
0.71
DPR:
0.60
APR:
0.11
Slovakia Martin 'STYKO' Styk
Martin 'STYKO' Styk
Age:
23
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.99
Maps played:
1090
KPR:
0.66
DPR:
0.66
APR:
0.14
Denmark Finn 'karrigan' Andersen
Finn 'karrigan' Andersen
Age:
29
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.93
Maps played:
1538
KPR:
0.64
DPR:
0.68
APR:
0.13
Denmark Anders 'Anders' Blume
Anders 'Anders' Blume
Age:
-
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
0.53
Maps played:
1
KPR:
0.19
DPR:
0.58
APR:
0.12
#1
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Germany Bestgerman69 
MUM IM FIRST HOLY SHIT
2018-02-01 16:50
gratz xd
2018-02-01 16:50
EPICENTER
2018-02-01 16:51
#64
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Argentina CrayZ 
Valve Should Secure the teams spot to the major. That would be nice, There a multibillion dollar company i'm sure they could easily assist teams and players to make sure they can attend the major.
2018-02-01 17:22
sure, there are also a lot of high value sponsorships around. shouldnt be hard to deal with hotels and so on. but remember its still volvo. but you are totaly right my friend!
2018-02-01 17:28
#133
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United States hobbitender 
Can’t agree more, to many teams not making it :(
2018-02-01 19:58
#99
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Norway xeb__ 
ECS
2018-02-01 18:03
faceit*
2018-02-01 18:05
#119
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Norway xeb__ 
mlg
2018-02-01 18:54
friendly turk spotted
2018-02-01 16:51
not impressive
2018-02-01 16:50
#16
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Brazil fuNNa 
expected from germanistan
2018-02-01 16:51
For gods sake, just give us another copy of Dreamhack Winter 2014.
2018-02-01 16:51
You're an understanding fella.
2018-02-01 16:56
#37
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Brazil mewhoo 
md5 pliz !
2018-02-01 17:01
#47
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Sweden New@ac@low@id 
How to fix majors 1 Larger prize pool 4-5 mil 2 EU arena 3 Fix the qualification process
2018-02-01 17:05
+1 also fix the seeding
2018-02-01 17:09
#134
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United States hobbitender 
Yeah I was about to vomit from the smell of bullshit watching the seeding
2018-02-01 20:00
>NiP flair >complaining about qual process choose both
2018-02-01 17:10
#54
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Sweden New@ac@low@id 
Uk Major Choose 1
2018-02-01 17:12
why would I inform you of when a uk player gets into major qual? firstly NiP didn't even make it to the last major quals. secondly the fact you have to try and compare my nationality to the csgo scene shows that you know I am right as you cant respond with any logical mature response for discussion
2018-02-01 17:13
#92
Dosia | 
Germany Lucasius 
">NiP flair >complaining about qual process choose both" "logical mature response for discussion" choose one
2018-02-01 17:57
4-5 mil is not real as now it is 1 mil :v maybe in 4-5 years :v +I agree with UE location (no visa problems, good hours for everyone) and agree qualification system is fucked up :c
2018-02-01 18:49
Good idea. Maybe they shouldnt even up the prizepool. I think they just need to introduce a tracker for stickermoney. Eventhough 1 mill $ is a lot of money, in the current circuit it feels like nothing special. Feels bad to say this, but right now prizepool=prestige.
2018-02-01 20:52
Dota 24 mil CS 1 mil
2018-02-02 10:32
Yes, but dota has 24 mill with community contribution. CSGO 1 mill is purely the money from valve, not including stickers.
2018-02-02 11:54
Nice
2018-02-01 19:07
interesting point by moses about randomizers, don't know what to think about it yet. I actually agree that no team should simply have a map that they never ever prepare for (this would also mean that valve has to replace nuke and rework cobble for this to work though). What is really undebatable is that group stages need BO3, why not just have 2 matches played at the same time so it doesn't take too much time? Which format doesn't really matter that much in the end, Swiss system with reseeding would probably be the best though imo.
2018-02-02 02:12
Wow!
2018-02-01 16:50
Plez make major in sydney!
2018-02-01 16:51
Hahahahahahaha
2018-02-01 16:51
#28
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Brazil wAc 
kanguruu time sucks for the whole world
2018-02-01 16:55
And NA time?
2018-02-01 16:55
#33
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Brazil wAc 
bad only for australia and asia
2018-02-01 16:57
#40
Kush | 
Netherlands protiny 
and EU
2018-02-01 17:02
#81
kaas | 
Netherlands ImKuru 
I mean, most major games started at 10:00, which is fine because for us they would start at 16:00
2018-02-01 17:42
#103
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Romania Tise 
Old schedules were aids, though.
2018-02-01 18:10
#123
Kush | 
Netherlands protiny 
few games for us were in the middle of the night tho, which was shit if you had to work the next day.
2018-02-01 19:06
#136
kaas | 
Netherlands ImKuru 
Doesn’t mean the schedule necessarily is bad, just because we couldn’t watch a few games, it could’ve been way worse
2018-02-01 20:06
#154
Kush | 
Netherlands protiny 
NA majors are always shit tho. And most of the time visa issues are why they're shit.
2018-02-02 01:32
#149
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Latvia AntonsMc 
Final ended at 1.30 a.m. for me so it wasn't that great
2018-02-01 22:46
#35
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Brazil wAc 
3 pm in NA(NY) is 4 or 5 pm in south america and 8 pm in most of europe
2018-02-01 17:00
east coast na time is somewhat fine for europe, but westcoast is like -9 hours, thats horrible
2018-02-01 17:23
#105
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Brazil wAc 
west coats is bad for brasil too
2018-02-01 18:12
#36
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Norway Phancy11 
Ok for Europe if not california. Every day this major began 16.00 CET, and finals was 20.00.
2018-02-01 17:00
#108
nukkye | 
Czech Republic kczr 
And ended at 1 PM not great tbh.
2018-02-01 18:25
They should start major finals 10 am as all of the other days Or start the showmatch at 10 and the major 12
2018-02-01 22:15
#41
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Australia AusGG 
fuck that shit
2018-02-01 17:02
there iwill be IEM at austri
2018-02-01 18:46
ez4ence
2018-02-01 16:50
#6
kolor | 
Hungary sundens 
first thanks edit: fuck
2018-02-01 16:51
Nice try, you would get it next time!
2018-02-01 16:51
#75
kolor | 
Hungary sundens 
im training every day
2018-02-01 17:31
#7
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Finland perkelemeister 
Micenicerice
2018-02-01 16:50
Kys
2018-02-01 16:50
#11
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Denmark JustYes 
yes
2018-02-01 16:51
#13
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Romania hoodie69 
woow
2018-02-01 16:51
yes
2018-02-01 16:51
#17
s1mple | 
Ukraine Reyser 
BABY BABY YEAH!
2018-02-01 16:51
#19
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India Gandhii4 
"TwoFaced" Toledo: Allow cheating
2018-02-01 16:51
So the enemies can have a chance at beating them? My respect for Fallen has increased +1000
2018-02-01 17:01
yes! everyone should use cheats not just sk
2018-02-01 17:56
+1000 I think cheating is needed to beat the best team in CS history aka SK.
2018-02-01 18:32
Like flusha or olofmeister HAHAHAHAHAHA
2018-02-01 18:39
+2 nickname and comment
2018-02-01 19:13
+2000
2018-02-01 19:13
CS:GO*
2018-02-02 10:43
#156
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United States Bacon987 
16-2 BTW
2018-02-02 03:00
yes
2018-02-01 16:51
#22
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France StickyRice 
Only 4 (or even 2 ?) legends could be a thing. 6 months span between 2 Majors is a long time in esports
2018-02-01 16:51
agreed
2018-02-01 17:09
#62
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France StickyRice 
Some would say that even Gambit (and especially Immortals that disbanded) wasn't as competitive 6 months later and they were the Major's winner though, but teams getting to semi or to the final of the Major have won one or 2 BO3 (after the 3 or 6 BO1 swiss games they won depending on the fact they played or not the Challengers stage) and proved themselves more than 5-8th finishers that only won in BO1. As long as changes are announced before (like announcing now for January's 2019 Major, but not applying a rule to July's 2018 one, like do not remove legends status from teams that finished 5-8th last week as rules were the rules, but announce that teams will have to reach at least the semis in July if they want to be legends for January 2019 Major). Major including the Challengers phase (making it to 24 teams) was great for teams like TyLoo (even though they couldn't come to play, they got stickers) or Misfits, but it was silly changing the rules after everything was done on the Minors. Things should have been set clearly before the regional Minors.
2018-02-01 17:21
#60
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France 1Faren 
Personally, for a Major, 2 is more than enough. But i think 8 teams is perfect. Only thing i would change is qualification sys
2018-02-01 17:16
#24
MICHU | 
Poland papaski2 
lol
2018-02-01 16:52
#25
ableJ | 
Bangladesh DisableJ 
papa fallen
2018-02-01 16:52
#26
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Brazil lekk1 
Nic3
2018-02-01 16:52
#27
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Brazil evolut1om 
nice
2018-02-01 16:52
wallen
2018-02-01 16:56
#32
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Brazil BuddyINSANE 
FalleN always pragmatic! We smart, we loyal, we friendly, we are from BRAZIL! Kreygasm
2018-02-01 16:56
Smart Brazil Pick one
2018-02-01 17:05
Broken
2018-02-01 17:29
I agree with Moses. Expected because he's very smart
2018-02-01 16:59
Just make it like the ti with massive prize money ffs
2018-02-01 17:01
#42
suNny | 
Argentina Sunnie 
Can someone tell me in few words? I can't watch the video right now and I'm very interested!
2018-02-01 17:03
fallen: create points system like in dota, for example nip won oakland but they lost online and won't play at major moses: combine region minors into 1 minor ynk: some bulshit about regions like ppl complain that cis is a region anders: valve has to step up ynk: remove bo1, teams have bigger map pool it should be bo3 for example big played only inferno in krakow and make legends, also we saw teams that reached legends and did nothing for 6 months anders: swiss or gsl both should have bo3 moses: randomizer for maps, teams have bigger map pool, prepare for more maps, this major we had a lot of interno, mirage and no nuke etc. nbk: i like 24 teams at major, helps teams from diffrent regions to play at major, points system with invites and global minor styko: legends system needs change, top8 give too much advantage, because next major is 6 months later and teams can become really bad, bigger reward, change stickers so you can buy finalists sticker longer than group stage teams or sth like that fallen: roster locks should be changed, gives boltz example etc. ynk: roster locks, same as fallen zews: coaching rule, full time coaching is too OP, but 4x30 seconds pauses are too short ynk: timing of majors, there will be always someone who will complain karrigan: major should be at the end of season and then 2 months of break for roster changes etc and start new season fallen: valve do much for dota, they should involve in csgo as well, they should bring some ideas from dota, stickers are outdated, we arent 5-7 times less than before its 18 minutes long so you better watch it later I might missed something
2018-02-01 17:30
#79
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United States jaeger_steam 
Much appreciated. At work and cannot watch right now
2018-02-01 17:36
#87
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Brazil fabianosan 
Thanks
2018-02-01 17:48
#114
suNny | 
Argentina Sunnie 
Me either, that's why I asked for this =P
2018-02-01 18:40
thankyou bro
2018-02-01 17:58
thanks goodguy
2018-02-01 18:22
#113
suNny | 
Argentina Sunnie 
Dude, you are a HERO! Thanks for taking your time writing this! Edit#1: I've been saying for months that Valve should take CSGO seriously as they do with Dota2. CSGO needs a HUGE tournament such as The International for Dota2, they could figure out how to .. Edit#2: Thanks again :D
2018-02-01 18:44
thank you very much bruh
2018-02-01 18:59
appreciate it bro
2018-02-01 19:12
#157
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Mongolia sdfgradious 
Ty beother my english bad
2018-02-02 03:02
First
2018-02-01 17:04
#44
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Germany Bossi_15 
I really like Fallens Idea, but in that case not a single team should receive invites to tournaments. It would be unfair to all upcoming teams if the already established always get free points since they always get a free entry.
2018-02-01 17:04
But now it’s unfair that a upcoming team in CIS or Asia gets a free major spot but an upcoming in EU has no chance.
2018-02-01 22:55
True
2018-02-01 17:09
make it so that typing !drop in twitch chat has a higher chance of getting drops
2018-02-01 17:10
#53
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Germany Eneladus 
Fallen wants more money? c´mon wtf
2018-02-01 17:11
Bo5 finals, 1v1 aim or 2v2 retake side competitions
2018-02-01 17:12
#56
es3tag | 
Germany vipitis 
Fallens idea is really bad for upcomming teams like QBF, Vega etc.... Region spots are stupid in some way... asian specific. Moses idea to have all minors mixed is great. also top level teams get a free invite into a lot of events and are still top even if irrelevant now(VP). I would like a CS world tour... where local scenes are promoted like a festival and then there is big teams coming and playing them... if you win you move on in the tour... if you lose you are out and will get replaced local teams at the next station.
2018-02-01 17:12
#63
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Brazil Nickzim 
I think what he meant is a system where you have region spots and this seed spots based on tier 1 tournments of the season. For me the most fair system would be: Legends Stage: > Reduce the number of legends teams to 4 (semifinalists only); > 4 spots based on the points of the teams on the season; > 8 spots based on the Challengers Stage. Challengers Stage: > 8 spots to the group stages exits teams of the legends stage; > 8 spots for the winners of the minors mixed.
2018-02-01 17:23
Rather a system that benefits know strong teams than one like now that gives no name teams free spots if the are from CIS or Asia but due to number of slots will always leave strong team out in EU.
2018-02-01 23:05
#65
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France StickyRice 
BO5 final, BO3 3rd place decider (at least). If you want to make the Major itself 2 weeks of effective play then : BO3 swiss phase, BO3 quarters, BO5 semis, BO7 final (at least BO5) and BO5 3rd place decider. But in such a case Major would last close to 4 weeks with the 24 teams challengers phase a few days before.
2018-02-01 17:23
A third place decider would be really good, but I think a best of 7 would actually decrease the quality of play. As it is most teams look sloppy on the last map on a best of 5
2018-02-01 17:25
#76
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France StickyRice 
Yeah that's why BO5 is more realistic (and since Valve has kept that BO3 - even when going from a 250.000$ to a 1M major with 350.000$ more to win if you finish 1st instead of 2nd - + that useless showmatch before the final, then getting a BO5 final and 3rd place BO3 decider would be a great change IMO). BO7 is too much for players in one day.
2018-02-01 17:32
Making a double elim best of 3 bracket like the dota international would be perfect. Sure it would be a lot of time, but when you are playing in a studio when you normally would have just been doing qualifications, its not like viewership would be any lower. Raising the total number of teams and allowing for more legend teams would also ensure that the minors supplying teams will just be there to allow up and coming teams a way in, but not a disproportionate number. Finally, some sort of crowd funding ideas to raise the prize pool and make it more prestigious will go a long way.
2018-02-01 17:23
put eu-teams to play two games per day....... so us-teams can win a major.
2018-02-01 17:24
I thing that i think should be fixed is putting Major before big breaks. Now we have a short time between Major and start EPL, some qualifying is happenning and several teams are making some changes in their roster (North, Misfits, nV).
2018-02-01 17:25
#77
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France StickyRice 
This. Sean said Misfits couldn't prepare really well but yeah some organizations probably want, for the security of their investment, to know if their players are qualified to the Major to renew contracts.
2018-02-01 17:34
+1
2018-02-01 17:27
8 legend teams is definitely too much, considering there is only 2 majors throughout the year.
2018-02-01 17:41
no more NA majors
2018-02-01 17:44
I expect that have substancial changes.
2018-02-01 17:46
Put two majors into one with a bigger prize pool around $2-3M, call it "The Major".
2018-02-01 17:52
Agree with Fallen, also they should put crowdfunding which will increase prize pool
2018-02-01 17:59
#96
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Brazil Collee 
No swiss system, 4 groups with 4 teams, 2 legends and 2 challengers on each group. Two quarters each day, two semis in one day(maybe BO5), BO5 final
2018-02-01 18:01
#97
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Poland crouzzz 
fallen the smartes opinion
2018-02-01 18:02
#98
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Ukraine EarthAintFlat 
Just make bo3 swiss ffs.
2018-02-01 18:03
FalleN on dev team inc?
2018-02-01 18:06
#102
Aleksib | 
Denmark megz 
Some great ideas in there. :)
2018-02-01 18:07
#106
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Ukraine FaZe_UW0TM8 
I totally agree with FalleN!!!!
2018-02-01 18:13
no future for eleague pls fuck that
2018-02-01 18:30
I would like to see on Major for example: 1) bigger map pool 2) final bo5 or bo7 3) to try add some map with hostages, make something different 4) bigger motivation }bigger price pool , 5) less legends ,only for best four teams 6)better group format ( 2 groups , each group 8 teams- with rondom genarator of maps and also each team will play each map only once. . Playoff: 1A vs. 4B and so on. .. 7) 3rd decider match,better for players and for people in arena, they Will see two matches. Now if they go visit the final ..match can end 16:5 16:5 And IT is over ,,, if valve make bo5 final and add 3rd decider ,should be good shedule . It is bad to buy a ticket only for one match and make full day with stupid casters match..only my opinion LETS TALK ABOUT IT AND DO STH TOGETHER FOR BETTER MAJORS
2018-02-01 18:42
too long didn't watch lulz
2018-02-01 18:49
#120
jks | 
United States jv$ 
After watching this video, if Zews was my coach I'd kill myself.
2018-02-01 18:55
new game pls, fuck csgo
2018-02-01 19:13
#137
roman | 
Palestine ndr[o] 
+1
2018-02-01 20:16
#129
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Europe JuliusCaesar 
I really like FalleNs ideas, and this "only top4 should be legends". Major isn't so "fancy" as it could be and lets be honest, CS could be next Dota/LoL if it comes to popularity or prize money.
2018-02-01 19:20
#130
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Argentina ep1GRAPH 
+south american seed. -EU tears
2018-02-01 19:39
#131
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Romania rainGODtop1 
FalleN:Pls not 2 matches on 1 day , to tired
2018-02-01 19:40
FaZe fan mocking SK, while FaZe also lost to C9 and FaZe can't even use the "tired" or "stand-in" excuse LMAO
2018-02-04 04:49
valve needs to do compendium sales like they do for Dota TI but do it for CS major as well it will generate so much revenue
2018-02-01 19:45
swiss/ bo1 is the main problem here
2018-02-01 20:51
#141
fer | 
Brazil gabyzinhu 
Just make the FINALS BO5 PLEASE
2018-02-01 20:58
#142
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Germany 1fRaNkkK 
The things what Fallen and Zews said are so true so important, idk... I hope valve sees this video and does some improvements to the cs go community. I would be very happy if the things that Fallen and Zews said get changed.. :)
2018-02-01 20:58
valve please watch this
2018-02-01 21:03
three thoughts Moses is dead wrong, map randomizer is cancer. If some maps get picked less, its because those maps aren't good enough. I dont want to see bo1 or even bo3 series (thinking of c9 vs nip at cologne 2014) decided on some mickey mouse map. Fallen is on the money that roster lock rules make no sense when teams can pick up players after the minor qualifiers have already begun. Obviously all the talented players will try to qualify for the major, so they are precluded from joining top teams. lastly, making the other prestigious tournaments on the circuit part of some overarching season with a points qualification system would provide context for both the one-off tournaments and the majors. IMO that would be much better than the outdated minor system
2018-02-01 21:21
#145
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Canada gritabit 
How to fix majors: 1. Less strict rules about rosters 2. Different format for group stage 3. Proper seeding 4. Sound booths during playoffs EZ best major
2018-02-01 21:36
stop doing them in NA ?
2018-02-01 22:13
I really agreed with zews
2018-02-01 22:20
karrigan english is awful no wonder kio couldn't understand this retard
2018-02-01 22:53
#153
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Sweden Benyaa 
Uhm i was surprised that Fallen didn't mention the time frames at all. SK had to play insane B03's with overtimes then had to wait 5-6 hours until the next BO3 and do that, at that point even i was tired of just watching i can't imagine what it is for them. Sad that they didn't point this out.
2018-02-01 23:11
maybe it was recorded before that match
2018-02-02 21:15
#158
kNgV- | 
Turkey yagoD 
karrigan +1
2018-02-02 09:24
#164
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Russia slyfoxxdd 
Major in Russia
2018-02-06 17:23
#166
FalleN | 
Brazil Feio91 
good ideas
2018-02-08 05:29
No more QF and SF on same day. Every one who has won QF4 loses in SF2 everytime its on the same day.
2018-02-08 10:12
#168
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Portugal ArChii_cs 
portugal <3
2018-02-08 13:29
The Swiss system worked out fine for me, with a lot of action. Add a lower bracket af the group stages would be awesome, and a bo5 final.
2018-02-17 12:14
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