IEM Katowice groups drawn

MIRAA
February 22nd, 2018 15:08

The draw for the group stage of IEM Katowice has been made, with the 16 teams having been split into two double-elimination groups.

The $500,000 Polish event will run from February 27 to March 4 and will feature the new format designed by ESL for its 16-team competitions, starting with two double-elimination groups of eight teams.

The two group winners will automatically progress to the semi-finals, while the losing the finalist and the team coming out of the lower bracket will be placed in the quarter-finals. The playoffs will take place in front of a live audience at the Spodek Arena and will culminate with the best-of-five grand final, on Sunday at 17:00.

Astralis will open up the action against Renegades

Below you can find the group draw in full:

Group A Group B
Brazil SK Europe FaZe
Denmark Astralis Sweden NiP
North America Liquid France G2
China TyLoo Sweden fnatic
United States Cloud9 Denmark Heroic
Kazakhstan Gambit Poland Virtus.pro
Australia Renegades Denmark North
Kazakhstan AVANGAR Australia ORDER

The complete tournament schedule looks as follows:

Tuesday, February 27
12:00 Denmark Astralis vs. Australia Renegades BO1
12:00 Brazil SK vs. Kazakhstan AVANGAR BO1
13:10 North America Liquid vs. Kazakhstan Gambit BO1
13:10 China TyLoo vs. United States Cloud9 BO1
14:20 Sweden NiP vs. Denmark North BO1
14:20 Europe FaZe vs. Australia ORDER BO1
15:30 France G2 vs. Poland Virtus.pro BO1
15:30 Denmark Heroic vs. Sweden fnatic BO1
16:40 Group A Upper Semi #1 BO3
16:40 Group A Lower Match #1 BO3
20:10 Group A Upper Semi #2 BO3
20:10 Group A Lower Match #2 BO3
     
Wednesday, February 28
12:00 Group B Lower Match #1  BO3
12:00 Group B Lower Match #2  BO3
15:30 Group B Upper Semi #1 BO3
15:30 Group A Lower Match #3 BO3
19:00 Group B Upper Semi #2 BO3
19:00 Group A Lower Match #4 BO3
       
Thursday, March 1
12:00 Group B Lower Match #3 BO3
12:00 Group B Lower Match #4 BO3
15:30 Group B Lower Final BO3
15:30 Group A Upper Final  BO3
19:00 Group A Lower Final  BO3
19:00 Group B Upper Final BO3


 
Friday, March 2
13:00 Playoff Match #1 BO3
16:50 Playoff Match #2 BO3
     
Saturday, March 3
15:00 Semi-final #1   BO3
18:50 Semi-final #2   BO3
       
Sunday, March 4
17:00 Grand final   BO5
#1
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Mongolia Tendies 
Nice to see rising teams such as avangar etc come to big events, it shows a shift from the old guard to the new, which is healthy for the ecosystem
2018-02-22 15:14
#62
hotdog | 
Finland hotdog^ 
very nice
2018-02-22 15:13
Nip and vp. Joke tournament
2018-02-22 16:05
Dennis tier1 will revive NiP
2018-02-22 16:41
#214
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Austria shaakeh 
I aren't think that
2018-02-22 16:45
#231
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Finland Lehtori 
vp 12-16 g2 vp 15-19 nip vp 10-16 order
2018-02-22 17:28
VP are certainly trash, but i wouldn't go as far as saying they would lose to NIP. Even i don't think they're that bad.
2018-02-22 18:36
#357
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United States jaeger_steam 
...Are you implying that vp is currently better than Nip? They both suck but at least NiP has shown SOMETHING over the last few months, and the dennis move could be promising. VP are straight up dead
2018-02-23 22:28
#318
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United Kingdom SchbowkeR 
Yeet
2018-02-22 23:39
#225
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Sweden Walker_38 
+1
2018-02-22 17:16
Astralis lul,exited group stage at major lul
2018-02-23 08:27
Unlike nip, who hasn't played a major for 2 years
2018-02-23 09:35
#63
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Norway Karl_Tanner 
Group B is a joke lol
2018-02-22 15:13
#82
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Germany carryKiNG 
you are a joke lol
2018-02-22 15:22
rekt he is right though
2018-02-22 15:28
I’d say both groups are pretty evenly matched (aside from the Asian teams establishing themselves to us still)
2018-02-22 15:33
possibly. Fnatic dropping off but heroic getting better, havent seen nip with dennis yet
2018-02-22 15:40
#158
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Germany carryKiNG 
more firepower, dunno about tactics n stuff
2018-02-22 15:50
yeah, the only one out of the bunch that relatively even sticks out is Tyloo, and them being absent from the major and since then changing their lineup, who knows (forgot they played in SL last week)
2018-02-22 18:54
#278
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Germany carryKiNG 
still think they can't compete on the other teams level
2018-02-22 19:15
Lol, of course not
2018-02-22 21:03
That doesn’t go without saying that all these Lans could be good experience for them against top teams
2018-02-22 21:04
#146
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Germany carryKiNG 
:D i think it's ok. vp probably makes that group looking like a joke
2018-02-22 15:44
joke? B is 20 times stronger then group A. Group A got 3-4 good teams while group B got 7
2018-02-22 15:28
Fnatic OMEGALUL
2018-02-22 15:30
you are omegalul ...you have tyloo avangar gambit rng ...silly fluke teams...
2018-02-22 15:44
Do you live under rock or? All teams from group B except Faze and North suck. NiP, fnatic, VP, Heroic, G2 are dead horses... Group A is atleast 2x stronger..
2018-02-22 15:51
go kill yourself and save our oxygen. ty
2018-02-22 15:52
Is that your argument?
2018-02-22 15:55
dont want to argue with someone who kills his own brothers and sisters lol...and then you tell me that I live under rock. have a nice day
2018-02-22 15:56
So yeah, no arguments from you, except insultes... Have a nice day..
2018-02-22 15:59
#283
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Sweden wyv0 
Mate group A has NA teams, AUS team, chinese team. Group B has only EU teams except 1... Nuff fucking Said, unless u think NA CS is good Ahahahaha
2018-02-22 19:21
Was ist dein Problem es ist nicht mehr 2015
2018-02-22 16:00
I have no problems...I live nice, no problems, thanks for asking.
2018-02-22 16:02
#344
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Switzerland BlackFate 
Someone who argument on this way cant have a nice life.
2018-02-23 07:06
Well to be fair, you didn't present any argument either. You just *said* that they suck. Where is your argument?
2018-02-22 17:20
#180
zAAz | 
Sweden Jnordz 
North are fucking worthless and G2 are not, nip with Dennis is fine. Dvem watched CS in 2018? Stupid Ukrain nobrain
2018-02-22 16:05
#188
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Finland Lassius 
Imo Group B is/should be stronger team vise, dont know how they will do though, as Fnatic did horribly is Starladder and VP and NiP dying... And Group A has teams in good form, expect for Gambit. If we look at gameplay Group A will have better imo and Group B has just bigger names
2018-02-22 16:12
#245
nex | 
Germany Xirif 
fnatic was #5 HLTV ranking and G2 are pretty strong atm but nt
2018-02-22 17:52
#280
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Sweden wyv0 
Rofl, group A has 2 good teams, SK and Astralis.... Nice group you got there ahaha Cloud9 is shit, they fluked the major, it's confirmed. Group B has FaZe, fnatic, G2 and North, all which are better than group A counterparts. And a Wild card with NiP with pistol king denka
2018-02-22 19:16
#197
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Portugal samf0rd 
+1 this is a fucking joke
2018-02-22 16:34
#239
TACO | 
Brazil TonimSan 
Group A: Tier 1 - SK, Astralis Tier 2 - Liquid, Gambit, C9 Tier 3 - Avangar, Renegades, Tyloo Group B: Tier 1 - Faze, G2 Tier 2 - NiP, fnatic, North, Heroic Tier 3 - VP, ORDER Almost the same level for both teams...
2018-02-22 17:48
#264
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United States Prattatat 
Seems a little off to see G2 in tier 1 but not C9, may be some bias but the head to heads are pretty even and C9 has had better results than G2 over the last 5 months or so.
2018-02-22 18:45
#270
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Sweden @Greven 
+1
2018-02-22 19:02
#275
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Netherlands Vladrurik 
C9 and G2 are both not Tier 1
2018-02-22 19:11
+1
2018-02-22 19:32
#304
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United States Prattatat 
Yea that can definitely be argued due to the inconsistency between both teams. My personal opinions is they are both in tier 1 with Faze and SK but can see why others don't believe so.
2018-02-22 20:56
group B is a joke ? im not sure if you know anything about cs
2018-02-22 15:42
Well a Group B Contender will win this shit dumbass
2018-02-22 16:43
#248
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Norway Karl_Tanner 
0/8 Ahmed
2018-02-22 17:56
#65
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Germany zeolikk 
se
2018-02-22 15:14
Ye exactly my point?! Refugees is good, it twist the ecobalance.
2018-02-22 15:32
#195
es3tag | 
Denmark megz 
Agreed! I would like to add that the picture text says that astralis will open vs. renegades, however, the schedule says something else...!
2018-02-22 16:30
You r living for these moments arent u
2018-02-22 16:39
#256
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Norway Noreg 
avangar is trash lol
2018-02-22 18:31
#272
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Europe vasseldomau 
+1
2018-02-22 19:03
#3
 | 
Europe headyonfire 
Ok
2018-02-22 15:08
#18
hotdog | 
Finland hotdog^ 
DONT INVITE VP
2018-02-22 15:09
#38
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Lithuania Paulius_CS 
VP will get farmed, fun times
2018-02-22 15:10
#52
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Brazil junera 
Very nice tournament, only thing that would make better would be -VP +mouz
2018-02-22 15:15
+1
2018-02-22 15:23
+1
2018-02-22 15:40
#155
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Brazil FalsoRei 
+1
2018-02-22 15:48
+1
2018-02-22 16:05
#189
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North America Arixx 
+1
2018-02-22 16:14
#198
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Portugal samf0rd 
+1
2018-02-22 16:34
+1
2018-02-22 17:23
#237
NEO | 
Poland sedi 
-1 less hype
2018-02-22 17:37
#255
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Bangladesh N0SP4C3 
Dont blame VP cause mous couldnt beat Avangar in the qualifiers lmao
2018-02-22 18:24
#282
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CIS ShimonSS 
And vp cant beat anyone, theyre just keep gettin invites cause of big name, so mouses are 10x timrs better rn
2018-02-22 19:21
#305
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Bangladesh N0SP4C3 
VP got invited because they are from Poland. Thats the only reason they got invited, i believe
2018-02-22 20:56
#308
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CIS ShimonSS 
ye, that what i mean, and avangar are pretty decent at the time, vp would get fucked by them, thou
2018-02-22 21:09
#60
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Italy drkrios 
they are always unpredictable, who knows?
2018-02-22 15:13
#147
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Finland Slaughtrr 
"Unpredictable" for almost a year consistently losing to tier 100 teams LUL
2018-02-22 15:44
#186
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Italy drkrios 
epicenter was unpredictable too.
2018-02-22 16:08
#40
ELMO | 
Sweden herb 
why not?
2018-02-22 15:10
#61
hotdog | 
Finland hotdog^ 
tier 20 team older than my great grandparents
2018-02-22 15:13
well, if your grandparents are under 30s then you need some serious sexual education in brazil
2018-02-22 15:21
#117
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Poland Spynacz 
+1
2018-02-22 15:30
#120
QRUSH | 
Russia z1vver 
8/8
2018-02-22 15:31
#157
 | 
Brazil FalsoRei 
+1 kkkkkkkk 1000000/10
2018-02-22 15:49
#205
ELMO | 
Sweden herb 
They got a new member so give them a chance
2018-02-22 16:40
+1
2018-02-22 15:10
#78
rain | 
Hong Kong lonely123 
they should have invited mouz instead
2018-02-22 15:21
+1
2018-02-22 15:28
#4
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Sweden MrIgnii 
So again both sk and faze are in different groups
2018-02-22 15:09
#47
ELMO | 
Sweden herb 
yea lucky SK..
2018-02-22 15:10
#51
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Germany Sabba1 
Which means the seeding is good
2018-02-22 15:11
they're #1 and #2 right now... why should they be in the same group?
2018-02-22 15:12
#127
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Sweden MrIgnii 
Because it is suposed to be a completely random seeding and sk never gets into faze's group. Random? I arent think that
2018-02-22 15:35
#153
Dev1 | 
Slovakia Marbw0w 
yeah and you want grand finals SK/FaZe vs ORDER right ?
2018-02-22 15:46
#181
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Sweden MrIgnii 
If sk and faze are in the same group and they finish 1st and 2nd they wont meet until the final
2018-02-22 16:05
#167
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Brazil FalsoRei 
"sk never gets into faze's group" or "faze never gets into sk's group". Conclusion, it's not theirs fault. They are #1 and #2 in the world right now, you really want a another semifinal between both teams just like in Cologne 2018.
2018-02-22 15:58
#184
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Sweden MrIgnii 
I wouldnt care about that, i care about the random seeding which is not random at all so the tournament decides the matchups
2018-02-22 16:07
#203
JUGi | 
Philippines !kbn 
Cologne 2018? Do you live in the future? Please tell me who wins IEM Katowice so I can bet on them
2018-02-22 16:40
#207
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Brazil FalsoRei 
+1 I thought i put "2017" kkkkkkkkkkkkkkk edit: and now i can't edit it.
2018-02-22 16:42
#213
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Brazil FalsoRei 
But if this happen... will be boring, meanwhile, there's a long time 'til there, many things can happen.
2018-02-22 16:45
#171
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Czech Republic Rewask 
Top 2 teams shouldn't be in the same group, cause the 2nd would be much worse that the 1st one and worse teams could be getting to playoffs
2018-02-22 15:59
#285
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Pakistan MeMeMeisteR2 
What he is trying to say is that how come SK and faze never end up in the same groups if it's supposed to be completely random. And he has a point because it means that it's not random at all
2018-02-22 19:42
but the seeding isn't random, it's based on esl's ranking system. and it was never supposed to be random.
2018-02-22 23:45
#354
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Sweden MrIgnii 
I believe they pick a card with a team name on a bowl
2018-02-23 15:14
#5
tarik | 
United States Quadd 
Fifth
2018-02-22 15:09
Lol
2018-02-22 15:08
#7
Germany chhrz 
lmao
2018-02-22 15:08
#8
jks | 
Australia Mosski 
nice
2018-02-22 15:08
#9
hotdog | 
Finland hotdog^ 
very noce
2018-02-22 15:08
#11
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Netherlands Automat1cC 
Lel
2018-02-22 15:08
#13
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Australia headlightsxd 
YTB
2018-02-22 15:09
#14
FalleN | 
Brazil RyannLP 
LUL
2018-02-22 15:09
#15
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Portugal dracø 
ez 4 NiP kappahd
2018-02-22 15:09
G2 EZ llife
2018-02-22 15:09
#17
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Germany ArroWoW 
n1
2018-02-22 15:09
#19
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Israel Xpicyy 
EZ
2018-02-22 15:09
#20
huyak | 
Europe sundby1 
ez
2018-02-22 15:09
#21
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Venezuela RetrybuterZ 
NiP u to read this? , WIN THIS SHIT <3! #GONINJAS Greetings from Venezuela
2018-02-22 15:10
#34
ELMO | 
Sweden herb 
we'll win! <3
2018-02-22 15:09
Did you mean 0-3 in groups?
2018-02-22 15:11
That's faze m8
2018-02-22 15:21
#202
ELMO | 
Sweden herb 
I was talking about NiP not SK or FaZe
2018-02-22 16:40
#345
Brehze | 
Poland wawywo 
No :D
2018-02-23 07:21
Ez 4 vp
2018-02-22 15:09
no days off thats cool
2018-02-22 16:52
n11
2018-02-22 15:09
#24
FalleN | 
France nyygma 
GG WP
2018-02-22 15:09
#25
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Poland olszju 
VP needs to get to the playoffs
2018-02-22 15:09
It's better for them not to. Imagine them getting to playoffs then possibly playing teams like SK, FaZe, G2, they will get raped right in front of their home crowd which is sad.
2018-02-22 15:23
#105
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Poland olszju 
Idk, they'll arek at bootcamp now so I hope they'll suprise everyone with their tactics and teamplay
2018-02-22 15:27
#26
MICHU | 
Kazakhstan aqua4kz 
AVG EZ
2018-02-22 15:09
#27
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Poland Kuba0123 
So ez for VP guys :D
2018-02-22 15:09
#29
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Slovakia bombmeister 
ez for mouz and navi...w8
2018-02-22 15:09
#30
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Brazil shagzter! 
who is ORDER and why are they there?
2018-02-22 15:09
Team that will upset in this tournament <3
2018-02-22 15:11
Aussie team (used to be Kings) that came from the AU Qualifier
2018-02-22 15:52
#31
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United States predac0n 
ez 4 C9 + Liquid = PRECIPITATION
2018-02-22 15:09
#69
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Norway Karl_Tanner 
C9 AAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAAAAAAAA XDDDD
2018-02-22 15:15
#170
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Brazil phelipet2 
NA ERA 2 WEEKS OMEGALUL
2018-02-22 15:59
#211
ELMO | 
Sweden herb 
They never had an era, winning the major was only luck
2018-02-22 16:44
#309
 | 
United States FlagMaster 
No major winner has had an era since MLG Columbus
2018-02-22 21:24
#313
ELMO | 
Sweden herb 
Yes Astralis had a short era when they won
2018-02-22 22:05
#327
 | 
United States FlagMaster 
I don’t think winning 1 event after major counts as era
2018-02-23 00:11
#352
ELMO | 
Sweden herb 
They won Katowice after as well and they were dominating the first month last year
2018-02-23 12:46
#355
 | 
United States FlagMaster 
2 events in a row isn’t an era
2018-02-23 17:20
#359
ELMO | 
Sweden herb 
being #1 team in six months straight is not an era?
2018-02-24 20:11
#337
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Poland subZero_ps 
and fnatic after Katowice 2015
2018-02-23 04:25
#336
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Netherlands EJVN 
seems like you don't know the definition of luck.
2018-02-23 04:12
#351
ELMO | 
Sweden herb 
There were lucky that FaZe chocked hard af against them
2018-02-23 12:45
#32
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United Kingdom Fizzhaz 
:) Upsets in A
2018-02-22 15:09
liquid winning over SK is not an upset
2018-02-22 15:10
group b is shit
2018-02-22 15:09
nice
2018-02-22 15:09
balanced
2018-02-22 15:09
One of C9/SK/Astralis/Liquid should be swapped out with someone from Group B, then it would be balanced.
2018-02-22 15:10
Yeah.. B is too strong and A have only astralis and sk MAYBEEEEEE c9
2018-02-22 15:27
+1
2018-02-22 15:30
#39
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Israel Xpicyy 
EZ4ORDER NIP AND TYLOO
2018-02-22 15:10
#42
 | 
Latvia Xaity 
gambit and avangar in 1 group . SAD .
2018-02-22 15:10
ez nip
2018-02-22 15:10
#45
KRIMZ | 
Denmark slacking 
Looks balanced tbh
2018-02-22 15:10
#175
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Czech Republic Rewask 
not really tbh, after starladder i think Astralis is best in Group A then there is SK/Liquid and then a big difference in the quality of teams.
2018-02-22 16:01
#46
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Bulgaria bUHALOVIC 
how much teams qual per group? 4?
2018-02-22 15:10
#91
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Brazil Matheuscgc 
3 per group, 1 straight to the semis
2018-02-22 15:24
#93
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Bulgaria bUHALOVIC 
xaxaxaxa rip c9 again then
2018-02-22 15:24
Nice, why wasnt mouz invited though?
2018-02-22 15:11
#56
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Turkey DildoKing 
Only so many teams you can invite, also mousesports lost to avangar in the qualifier
2018-02-22 15:12
lets hope to see them in cologne atleast. crowd would go nuts :)
2018-02-22 15:15
No one would care about this t2 team.
2018-02-22 15:24
#212
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United Kingdom galaxzy 
beat SK and major champs C9 tier 2 pick one lmfao
2018-02-22 16:45
tier 2
2018-02-22 18:15
FACT: They lost qualifier to AVANGAR Tier 2 Proof. And there are plenty of matches they lost that they shouldn't have lost that I could post. And counting C9 as a great team. They are the new Gambit
2018-02-22 18:34
#261
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United Kingdom galaxzy 
ONLINE CS LMFAO also C9 major winners nt
2018-02-22 18:41
rip VP on the stage :(
2018-02-22 15:10
GROUP A IS SO SHIT COMPARE TO B
2018-02-22 15:11
Not exactly, NIP/FNATIC and VP are in shit form lately so the only good teams are Faze and g2
2018-02-22 15:16
FNATIC had a bad tournament it happens to everyone,dont count them out already,new NIP can be super good is theyre on form and VP too,way more Dangerous that some teams from group a
2018-02-22 16:25
Yes. Fnatic was not good at SL but they have played consitently lately, except SL. I still belive they can reach the playoffs. Even NiP
2018-02-22 16:40
yeah sl was just sad as fuck,i like to see them playing lately and i dont know what happend to them there but i still feel like they are a very good team and i hope theyll show it at Katowice,as for NIP im really hyped to see how theyll do with mr dennis on LAN
2018-02-22 17:07
GROUP B IS SO SHIT COMPARE TO A. Fixed that for you.
2018-02-22 15:27
rip vp
2018-02-22 15:12
#59
NiKo | 
India Sishir 
No mouse sports no fun
2018-02-22 15:13
they got eliminated by avangar in qualifiers
2018-02-22 15:29
#178
NiKo | 
India Sishir 
That's why I'm sad. They're top5 team atm imo.
2018-02-22 16:04
#215
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United Kingdom galaxzy 
+1
2018-02-22 16:45
im waiting so much to see dennis and NiP
2018-02-22 15:14
#66
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Poland misioneos 
cybersport.pl faster and with ladders since 15:00
2018-02-22 15:14
#67
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Europe V1rus_ 
Ez for Nip
2018-02-22 15:14
Group A five bad teams, niz
2018-02-22 15:14
#70
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Europe treyhard 
EZ FAZEEE
2018-02-22 15:15
#71
 | 
Poland ReHowskyy 
3 teams advances from group right?
2018-02-22 15:15
Yes
2018-02-22 16:36
group B lol
2018-02-22 15:15
ez group for vp
2018-02-22 15:18
Of fucking course Order get group b.
2018-02-22 15:19
finally vp will win something
2018-02-22 15:21
#81
flusha | 
Yugoslavia mrmojo 
To bad there is no mouz, otherwise very strong tournament. Ofc VP will always get invited to this it's in Poland, maybe they can do better with some home support :)
2018-02-22 15:21
Mouz doesn't take anything away from the tournament. Lol they rekt by Avengers.
2018-02-22 15:27
16-14 rekt ok
2018-02-22 15:28
When you lose to a lower tier team, no matter what the score is it's considered rekt. As a Wise Monkey once said: "The Cry is Free"
2018-02-22 15:31
#217
flusha | 
Yugoslavia mrmojo 
They rekt SK at this tournament and rekt c9 currently #2 and #3 ranked teams in the world so maybe in your dumb world they are #2 team in the world who knows. They're a team that can beat anyone on their day and are getting better and better and I can say I enjoy watching their games so yes the tournament loses something. A top5 team atm for sure.
2018-02-22 16:50
#287
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Pakistan MeMeMeisteR2 
That's exactly why them losing to avangar is considered as rekt.
2018-02-22 19:47
They can beat top teams here and there, yet they still haven't won a single tier 1 tournament, I don't see them being ranked in Top 3. Will never happen.
2018-02-22 21:53
#83
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Portugal RKO23 
ast or sk to top group a , we're getting another faze vs g2 which is glorious.
2018-02-22 15:22
ez for FaZe
2018-02-22 15:23
ez vp
2018-02-22 15:23
ez vp
2018-02-22 15:23
#89
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Germany Merkelistan 
ez for ORDER
2018-02-22 15:23
#90
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North America ksp52 
i don't see why they can't just split it into 4 groups
2018-02-22 15:24
So, it's basicly european group and non-european group. That's some bullshit. Seems like they are trying to get as many non-european teams in the play offs as possible.
2018-02-22 15:24
Many *euro teams as possible given their recent record against non eu teams
2018-02-22 15:34
#94
Xyp9x | 
Brazil Skilo 
Ez 4 TACO
2018-02-22 15:24
No more Swiss system yeeee
2018-02-22 15:25
g2 vs vp /// rip VP xD
2018-02-22 15:25
B01 AGAIN , BACK TO CLOWN FIESTA
2018-02-22 15:25
#99
chrisJ | 
Czech Republic Jurys 
inviting NiP over mouz and Navi lololol NiP is just a free win
2018-02-22 15:26
mouz got eliminated in qualifiers by avangar
2018-02-22 15:28
#115
chrisJ | 
Czech Republic Jurys 
avangar > mouz > NiP
2018-02-22 15:29
mouz is a better team then both, lower tier teams beat upper tier teams becuase of their play style. Mouz does not know how they play and what they do. Look at qbf.
2018-02-22 15:31
#124
chrisJ | 
Czech Republic Jurys 
chrisj said that they didn´t prepare much, same goes to navi, shit happens my point is you should invite the best teams and NiP is shit since Oakland
2018-02-22 15:33
But NiP and VP are always fun to watch
2018-02-22 15:36
#132
chrisJ | 
Czech Republic Jurys 
really? the VP matches on Starladder were kinda boring for me Snax and GTR were always fun to watch for me, but since 2017 they suck and they are no longer interesting imo
2018-02-22 15:37
Even if they suck they are noteworthy and make for interesting discussions and emotions.
2018-02-22 15:43
#103
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Norway frjh 
Lets GO NAVI lets win the next major!!! wait... s1mple still cant 1v9, ill come back in 20never
2018-02-22 15:27
#104
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Sweden Akoulad 
Nice not to see overrated NaVi here
2018-02-22 15:27
#240
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Bangladesh rainy^^ 
1x5 is not ez ;/
2018-02-22 17:49
ez for mousespo......oh wait...
2018-02-22 15:27
I bet AVANGAR gonna be more successful than Gambit.
2018-02-22 15:28
true, they can even beat sk in this bo1, im pretty sure
2018-02-22 17:33
#110
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Sweden aer1aL 
ez 4 VP.
2018-02-22 15:28
#125
mir | 
El Salvador NotHotMan 
riP VP LOL
2018-02-22 15:34
what is this format lol, why not just 4 groups of 4 teams?
2018-02-22 15:36
esl don't want to do 4 quarters on the same day, especially in poland where the audience gets kicked out at 22:00 (i think). so only 6 in playoffs, can't determine 6 out of 4 groups.
2018-02-22 23:50
rip vp ;D
2018-02-22 15:36
vp got the easier group and will still get trashed :(
2018-02-22 15:36
Group B is easier because there is VP.
2018-02-22 16:08
#133
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Macau Bent0 
FaZe vs. ORDER 16-0
2018-02-22 15:38
Get those fookin NA teams away from us
2018-02-22 15:38
#338
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Other mikecool 
Accidentally replied to the wrong comment... Woops
2018-02-23 04:43
#339
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Other mikecool 
And again hltv screwing up on my phone hc...
2018-02-23 04:46
RIP AU Teams, RNG vs Astralis, Order vs Faze. GG bois.
2018-02-22 15:39
#340
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Other mikecool 
+1 oof
2018-02-23 04:46
so only 6 teams ou tof 16 go to the playoffs?
2018-02-22 15:39
#192
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Bulgaria raponq 
yeah
2018-02-22 16:26
#194
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Brazil FalsoRei 
It's so ridiculous how this work, i mean, the rewards for the teams who finishes at 1st of his group could be a additional prize money (10k), and not give to them a free semis. Just like in IEM Oakland and EPL S6 (where Sk finishes in 1st).
2018-02-22 16:32
esl don't want to do 4 quarters on the same day, especially in poland where the audience gets kicked out at 22:00 (i think). so only 6 in playoffs.
2018-02-22 23:52
#325
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Brazil FalsoRei 
Just do like StarSeries, make 2/4 in two days, the crowd makes difference in quarters, once they will play on closed LAN.
2018-02-23 00:05
starseries plays 4 quarterfinals on the same day and like i said, iem can't do that. it would take too much time. to make sure that the last match is over before 22:00, you would have to start at 9:00, but nobody will show up to watch that early. they could do it like eleague did and have the 4th quarterfinal on saturday, but you can ask your favorite team how much they like that ;)
2018-02-23 00:27
Geez SK and FaZe got ez picks again lul
2018-02-22 15:39
#139
ZywOo | 
Poland EzzCSGO 
I'm looking forward to it
2018-02-22 15:40
rip vp
2018-02-22 15:41
#142
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Croatia mds818 
at least fnc got rid of rng,gambit and tyloo :>
2018-02-22 15:42
Yeah good for them maybe now they can get out of groups :>
2018-02-22 15:44
#144
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Finland niklaSjj 
no mouz no party
2018-02-22 15:42
AVANGAR party poopers
2018-02-22 15:45
simultaneous games zZZzzzzz
2018-02-22 15:45
Groups are balanced you idiots.
2018-02-22 15:45
fucking retard format
2018-02-22 15:46
#156
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Poland sajlent 
pretty even groups top tier in A: SK and Astralis B: FaZe and G2 mid tier in A: Cloud9, Liquid and Gambit B: fnatic, North and NiP low tier in A: Renegades, TyLoo and AVANGAR B: Heroic, VP and ORDER
2018-02-22 15:48
#221
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Canada Japss^_^ 
true they're even but this my order Top tier A: SK, Astralis, C9. B: Faze and G2 Mid-tier: Liquid, RNG(New roster with Jkaem) B: fnatic, NiP, and Heroic(doing better as of late) Low-tier A: TyLoo, Avangar, Gambit(struggling to get a foothold) B: North(Nowhere near as top tier as they were), VP, ORDER but overall true but that's how i see it
2018-02-22 17:01
what the fuck is group b? who did the seedings? jesus fucking christ what the fuck is this shit? literally only faze and g2.....
2018-02-22 15:52
i believe the seeding is based on esl's own ranking.
2018-02-22 23:54
AVANGAR vs ORDER in final I bet my house on this
2018-02-22 15:52
#196
AdreN | 
Kazakhstan Fox427 
I am not sure if you even have one, but I like the bet :)
2018-02-22 16:33
ofc i have house, would fall into the sun without a roof over my head
2018-02-23 06:16
#165
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Brazil BuddyINSANE 
Brazi l zil zil zil zil, let's go my TEAM! Where is spacesoldiers? We smart, we loyal, we friendly, we are from BRAZIL! kreygasm
2018-02-22 15:56
rigged.
2018-02-22 15:59
As always FaZe getting the easiest route possible.
2018-02-22 16:00
#174
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Moldova OptimusBlyad 
FAZE ORDER RIGGED XD Fnatic ez btw
2018-02-22 16:01
A is the group of death B ez for FaZe
2018-02-22 16:04
ez Katowice 2014
2018-02-22 16:06
Nooooo! Stop this asymmetric tree bullshit! Give us real quarter-finals and/or real semi-finals, just give us a symmetric tree ffs!
2018-02-22 16:10
#193
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Brazil FalsoRei 
+1 It's so ridiculous how this work, i mean, the rewards for the teams who finishes at 1st of his group could be a additional prize money (10k), and not give to them a free semis.
2018-02-22 16:27
#190
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Russia mcs#  
GROUP B what a joke
2018-02-22 16:16
#200
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Canada Japss^_^ 
I swear if G2 loses to VP I'm gonna lose it :v
2018-02-22 16:38
#208
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United States Rambeard 
It's nice to see a team like ORDER make it to the group stage. I hope they can get a win at least.
2018-02-22 16:42
#209
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Denmark raaVz 
Group A - 6 Good teams .Avangar and gambit Groud B - 6 Good Teams , Vp and Order
2018-02-22 16:43
EVERYONE KNOWS THAT VP IS GOING TO LOSE ALL MATCHES. THEY ARE JUST BAD .....
2018-02-22 16:47
#219
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Poland weo000 
bet on faze all skins? its bo1 i dont know :(
2018-02-22 16:58
#220
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Finland jayss 
rigged for VP, rofl
2018-02-22 16:59
cya VP anyway
2018-02-22 17:09
#224
ScreaM | 
Belgium GENZUU 
Niceee
2018-02-22 17:10
cya VP XDDDD G2-0 VP
2018-02-22 17:19
#233
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Hungary showee 
they playing bo1 :D
2018-02-22 17:29
6 days tournament still way too long. these overly long tournaments are bad influence from moba games, not part of cs. bo3 brackets upper and lower. 3 days max ;)
2018-02-22 17:27
#230
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Netherlands Deji 
WHERE IS ENVYUS WTF
2018-02-22 17:28
#232
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Hungary showee 
bet againt VP still easy money
2018-02-22 17:29
vp fast defeat and to home
2018-02-22 17:31
1. Easy tournament for SK Gaming 2. RIP VP disband/changes 3. Faze lucky
2018-02-22 17:36
Nice to see nip in action again. Too bad mouz couldnt make it.
2018-02-22 17:48
ez vp in final against faze
2018-02-22 17:49
#242
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United States Venom_ 
No crowd = no vp
2018-02-22 17:50
ez faze
2018-02-22 17:51
#244
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Poland Czari10 
flying to poland to see 5 games ez lose
2018-02-22 17:51
#246
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Sweden Rexz 
ez NIP
2018-02-22 17:52
#247
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Brazil Charizaldo 
VP should stay home, it will be cheaper for them
2018-02-22 17:56
Ago will take the invite and alteast try
2018-02-22 20:50
#249
Snax | 
Saudi Arabia hobbit_ 
rigged tournament XD VP again draw against bots
2018-02-22 18:15
#277
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United Kingdom kingpepe2 
G2 is one of the harder draws.
2018-02-22 19:12
#251
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United States BigBadPapa 
I like faze and all, but they always seem to get the easiest match-ups to advance.
2018-02-22 18:17
#252
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Germany jnsCsgo 
bah best of ones again... gay
2018-02-22 18:18
Nice with different format, but I can't help thinking. Does Group B Lower Match #4 winner have to play Group B lower final right after, so they have 2 bo3 in a row? Instead of putting the group A upper final and or group A lower final before, so they get a break, as group A has no other games that day^^ Oh well, still looking forward to it. Edit: When looking at tournamentpage, it looks like only 3 teams will advance to upper bracket, which means 1 team that win their bo1 still goes to lower bracket? That doesn't seem fair, but will have to see it first xD
2018-02-22 18:27
lol no, don't worry :D what they call 'lower final' is actually the lower semi, but the real lower final isn't played. the loser of the upper final is automatically 2nd seed and the team that wins the 'lower final' is the 3rd seed. and i have no idea why the didn't just switch the 2nd and 3rd time slot on thursday :D
2018-02-23 00:10
RiP
2018-02-22 18:39
#260
f0rest | 
Argentina Nawll 
EZ NIP
2018-02-22 18:40
Why does lEM Katowice always happens in Poland?
2018-02-22 18:44
Is that a serious question?
2018-02-23 00:52
Actually, no.
2018-02-23 05:51
Good
2018-02-23 13:10
I am in love with NiP
2018-02-22 18:52
grand final: ninjas in pyjamas(top 0) versus g2, B03, maps: Cache 16:9 nip 'll win Cbble 16:11 nip 'll win Decider is overpass btw.
2018-02-22 18:52
NiP top 0. goat.
2018-02-22 18:53
#273
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Europe vasseldomau 
RIP Nip!
2018-02-22 19:04
well, here goes nothing: GOGO VP !
2018-02-22 18:53
#271
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Algeria SpaceFockuZ 
#GONINJAS ! #GODENNIS
2018-02-22 19:02
#274
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Bolivia Luchingador 
another SK VS Faze Final incoming?
2018-02-22 19:05
#276
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United Kingdom kingpepe2 
RIP VP LUL
2018-02-22 19:11
#279
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Germany PnALynx 
Group A: SK Astralis Liquid C9 Group B: Faze G2 NiP / North fnatic
2018-02-22 19:17
#288
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Pakistan MeMeMeisteR2 
Only 6 teams make it bro
2018-02-22 19:50
#286
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New Zealand JK_77 
5 am final ResidentSleeper
2018-02-22 19:44
I miss mouz there...
2018-02-22 19:53
#290
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Pakistan MeMeMeisteR2 
Nip too soon with Dennis VP not good enough Heroic > north but still not a solid tier 1 team but can cause upsets Fnatic choke at starseries Order.....Aussie cs lul Faze top 1 G2 group stage gods Should be faze Vs g2 in upper bracket finals and hopefully fnatic from the lower bracket. Fnatic should really disband if they don't reach the grand finals
2018-02-22 19:55
faze top 1 lol wait SK rekt them easily 2-0
2018-02-22 19:57
#292
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Pakistan MeMeMeisteR2 
Are u fucking dumb mate ? (No offense :) )
2018-02-22 20:00
you fucking dumb idiot and Faze fanboy karrigan never beat Fallen in bo3 since 2015 you fucking idiot Faze never beat SK in Bo3/Bo5 cry is free DUMB
2018-02-22 20:01
#294
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Pakistan MeMeMeisteR2 
Faze is no.1 in the rankings so nobody gives a shit about what u say tbh
2018-02-22 20:05
0/8
2018-02-22 20:08
#297
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Pakistan MeMeMeisteR2 
Wtf?
2018-02-22 20:47
hltv ranks means nothing Faze 0 majors NA 1 major xd
2018-02-22 20:47
#302
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Pakistan MeMeMeisteR2 
Obviously u make more calculations than hltv
2018-02-22 20:52
you mad cuz bad?
2018-02-22 20:53
#296
NiKo | 
Poland Jaruzel 
Group A: SK C9 Liquid Group B: FaZe G2 NiP
2018-02-22 20:17
#312
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United States SjD 
+1 good picks
2018-02-22 22:00
#322
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Bangladesh N0SP4C3 
Group A NA, and group B EU. NICE PICKS
2018-02-22 23:50
G2 vs VP. hahaha will that match be broadcasted on brazzers premium ?
2018-02-22 20:48
rip vp
2018-02-22 20:49
#311
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United States SjD 
LUL Group B is ass
2018-02-22 21:59
#314
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Australia Dremidus 
rip Order. :'(
2018-02-22 22:18
#315
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Poland sajlent 
sadly this will be the last ever lan for Neo or pasha
2018-02-22 22:46
ez 4 ORDER
2018-02-22 22:53
#317
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Poland Kobel_ 
Group B all EU besides ORDER, lul
2018-02-22 23:18
#330
s1mple | 
Poland Hell2k 
And group B only Astralis from EU
2018-02-23 00:14
ORDER actually might have a chance to go far. Renegades as well. AUCS rising? It's about time.
2018-02-22 23:41
#349
AZR | 
Australia nomitycs 
ORDER gotta bo3 beat a top 10 in the world or be eliminated on the first day lol not that far but we can hope
2018-02-23 09:39
#361
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Germany grabke 
nope not on the first day because Lower Bracket group b matches are on the second day. 2 Teams from Group A are going home on Day 1 .. strange event :)
2018-02-26 01:18
Chance to go far? They have no chance against anyone in their group except for vp and heroic, and even then I would surprised if they beat those two
2018-02-24 16:54
#328
s1mple | 
Poland Hell2k 
Faze and SK lmao
2018-02-23 00:13
So G2 got a BYE.
2018-02-23 00:13
ez 4 SK Gaming
2018-02-23 00:51
Group B OMEGALUL
2018-02-23 03:48
#335
f0rest | 
Macedonia ydjoon 
vp wasted spot smh..
2018-02-23 03:51
Time for Tier 1 teams to cry again
2018-02-23 06:39
of course sk and faze not in same group cuz everyone wants another sk vs faze final smh
2018-02-23 08:59
EZ for VP!!! to leave the tournament in first 2 teams, haha
2018-02-23 10:16
#356
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Poland ScreenLag 
EZ for VP!!!
2018-02-23 19:53
#360
QRUSH | 
Ukraine b1azed 
OMG GROUPS IN 2018 did gods heard me?
2018-02-25 14:54
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