flamie explains decision to skip WESG Finals

MIRAA
March 10th, 2018 22:27

Natus Vincere member Egor "flamie" Vasilyev has explained why he will not attend the upcoming WESG Finals with Team Russia.

The 20-year-old has posted a message on social network VK.com stating that he has elected not to play at the Chinese event due to "many personal issues".

It is the same explanation provided initially by his Na`Vi teammate Aleksandr "s1mple" Kostyliev, who added in a statement released earlier on Saturday that he needs to rest as he feels "exhausted" after the recent weeks of practice.

flamie cites personal reasons to skip the WESG event

Russia captain Denis "seized" Kostin had made no secret that he was shocked by his teammate's last-minute decision, but Egor "flamie" Vasilyev insists that competing at the event would be "a total failure" - and has offered to pay for his replacement's flights.

"There are many personal issues behind this," he wrote. "The team has time to find a replacement, and it is possible to get a visa upon arrival, so any Russian player can go.

"I am even ready to pay the flight tickets if the organisation refuses to do so. I am sorry, but considering the current state it would be a total failure to play this tournament. I hope that hooch (or the stand-in) will be able to go and play well.

"I do not ask for your support, everything will be okay, it is not the end of the world. This break will be vital for future results."

Russia have not yet announced whether Dmitry "hooch" Bogdanov - who had stepped down as coach on Friday due to family reasons - will be able to make it to the event or they will have to field coach Vadim "MSE" Zimin as their fifth player. seized's men have been drawn in Group D for the Chinese event, which begins on Tuesday, alongside SK, BIG and New4.

Russia Dmitry 'hooch' Bogdanov
Dmitry 'hooch' Bogdanov
Age:
31
Rating 1.0:
0.91
Maps played:
816
KPR:
0.62
DPR:
0.69
APR:
0.14
Russia Denis 'seized' Kostin
Denis 'seized' Kostin
Age:
24
Rating 1.0:
0.99
Maps played:
1161
KPR:
0.68
DPR:
0.67
APR:
0.16
Russia Egor 'flamie' Vasilyev
Egor 'flamie' Vasilyev
Age:
21
Rating 1.0:
1.06
Maps played:
1119
KPR:
0.73
DPR:
0.67
APR:
0.14
Russia Vadim 'MSE' Zimin
Vadim 'MSE' Zimin
Age:
32
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
0.81
Maps played:
54
KPR:
0.59
DPR:
0.76
APR:
0.13
Ukraine Aleksandr 's1mple' Kostyliev
Aleksandr 's1mple' Kostyliev
Age:
21
Rating 1.0:
1.23
Maps played:
938
KPR:
0.85
DPR:
0.66
APR:
0.11
Excuses
2018-03-10 22:27
Tired of being carried
2018-03-10 22:28
#50
Skadoodle | 
Portugal phvm 
Cloud9 ou sk who else
2018-03-10 22:44
#84
JUGi | 
Germany Triggered 
Fnatic.
2018-03-10 23:07
#87
Skadoodle | 
Portugal phvm 
Are out
2018-03-10 23:10
#89
JUGi | 
Germany Triggered 
they're literally in the same group as Cloud9.
2018-03-10 23:10
#186
Zeus | 
Russia Klugervl 
Grandfinal Fnatic - Godsent. Check
2018-03-11 16:00
fallen's already busted out his pen and paper
2018-03-10 22:29
#77
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France Mevleffy 
WESG 2017 will forever be remembered as the fight for excuses
2018-03-10 23:00
#112
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United States qzkR 
2018*
2018-03-11 00:03
2017** It's a 2 year-long tournament which started last year. It's named WESG 2017.
2018-03-11 00:09
#121
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United States qzkR 
Oh I never noticed my bad
2018-03-11 01:07
#124
 | 
Spain halow1213 
Get rekt by favela
2018-03-11 01:23
Rofl
2018-03-11 03:21
Favela HAS 6 MAJORS SINCE 1.6 AND 5 WORLD CUPS, WHAT SPAIN HAS? JUST RAFAEL NADAL LOL
2018-03-11 04:23
calm down my friend
2018-03-11 05:15
Spain has Ronaldo, who you got?
2018-03-11 06:32
ronaldo is from portugal, but ok :)
2018-03-11 08:46
Plays for Madrid so idc
2018-03-11 09:00
#160
D0cC | 
Netherlands Idioot 
With your logic Messi is Spanish...
2018-03-11 09:23
#195
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Indonesia Bisapakai 
LOL
2018-03-12 04:43
indeed, he has double nacionality
2018-03-13 09:03
#176
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Sweden undie 
sometimes its better to just su =)
2018-03-11 12:41
#184
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Denmark Xipingu 
Take it on the chin m8
2018-03-11 15:12
#22
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Portugal Flame20 
SKcuses*
2018-03-10 22:29
:''D
2018-03-10 22:37
Lul
2018-03-11 00:03
SORRY BRO , PORTUGAL CS IS VERY POOR, THANKS TO BE A BRAZILIAN FAN
2018-03-11 04:24
Fallen himself said that fox gave them the motivation to continue playing at atlanta
2018-03-11 06:33
#26
s1mple | 
World NawyE 
Stfu and look at his point of view and think one more time
2018-03-10 22:30
"Without simple dropping 40 bombs I might as well play pubg at home. if you guys don't even understand this u can go syka your self."
2018-03-10 22:31
#74
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Spain Lucien 
s1mple plays for ukraine, flamie plays for Russia.
2018-03-10 23:00
#78
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France Mevleffy 
Yes, that's why s1mple can't 40 bomb for him
2018-03-10 23:01
#137
flusha | 
Sweden Cadde 
Flusha will dropp a million aces
2018-03-11 03:39
And you play for team Braindead Retard Who Can't Read or Deduce.
2018-03-11 19:08
k
2018-03-10 22:27
Unbelievable... Flamie please say the truth, it's s1mple who actually made u withdraw from the tournament This guy is ruining people dreams... Its incredible how a single player can ruin an entire team...loook at NaVi... 2nd at Cluj (the last major win for EnVyUs) 2nd at ESL ESEA 2 (defeated LG, lost to unbeatable fnatic) 2nd at Starladder (lost to unbeatable fnatic) 3-4th at IEM (lost to LG) 2nd at MLG (lost to LG) 2nd at DH Malmo (lost to NiP) 3-4th at ELEAGUE (lost to just fnatic). After s1mple joined - failure after failure Guardian is playing insane again on FaZe... seized is happy on Gambit and now can actually win something flamie is clearly not happy with you... You literally made him withdraw for a 1.5m tournament just because of your behavior... STOP RUINING PEOPLE LIVES!
2018-03-10 22:32
#48
Hungary powi 
+1, ITS INCREDIBLE
2018-03-10 22:42
#49
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Germany VeryFlaMezGuy 
and New York?
2018-03-10 22:43
Wow... You can't forget about the rest Just because they won 1 event when teams heavily underperformed
2018-03-10 22:45
Starladder they beat faze lost to #2 team mouz
2018-03-10 22:49
#70
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Europe Spoonman20 
It's better to win 1 event than to lose to Fnatic in the finals all the time.
2018-03-10 22:56
That NaVi was clear top2 this NaVi tho no way near that.
2018-03-10 23:40
"seized is happy on Gambit and now can actually win something" they are losing to some tier3 mdl teams rofl how they can win something now?
2018-03-10 22:44
They just beat Navi to a ecs spot lol
2018-03-10 22:45
wow nice but it doesn't change the fact that they suck lul
2018-03-10 22:46
Fan of sprout ?
2018-03-11 10:48
YES I KNOW SPROUT IS SHIT TOO but they look kinda better now
2018-03-11 16:07
#102
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Argentina makuken 
They always lost to shit tier3 teams in premier , they don’t have good ping but on lan they always have good results
2018-03-10 23:42
Yeah like on Boston major where they were out in groups
2018-03-11 18:10
#55
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United States Cherryyy 
Oof nvm never will see what I said
2018-03-10 22:47
How did simple make flamie withdraw. It isn't even necessarily due to navi that they withdrew seeing as electronic is still supposed to be playing. And flamie and simple weren't on same team for Wesg.
2018-03-10 22:48
Zeus and Edward were also going to attend until Ukraine withdrew
2018-03-10 22:50
#188
Zeus | 
Russia Klugervl 
why Ukraine withdrew? They may take Jr from Vega to take part in wesg. Vega players 100% has china visas... Especially Vega is top china team))
2018-03-11 16:11
#67
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United States Cherryyy 
+1 ikr it doesn’t even make sense also adding s1mple, THE BEST PLAYER IN UKRAINE who has carried them most of the time since he has joined just doesn’t equal to destroying a team. If anything GuardiaN destroyed it with a lack of motivation and not caring about the game, bringing the team down with him. Seized sucked ass and they didn’t even have an IGL. Zeus was not the proper solution for an IGL considering he can’t frag for shit along side Edward who is a coin flip for how well he will do every single match. Don’t blame s1mple for Navis losses considering the whole team is falling apart. Also mouz -STYKO +s1mple PLEASE
2018-03-10 22:54
Yeah also he's not the only person in the team that's been described as toxic. Zeus and flamie have too. But unlike them he puts up consistently insane numbers. Flamie is amazing when he's playing well but pretty average if not poor when he isn't feeling it.
2018-03-10 22:56
#76
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France TheFaren 
lul conspiracy theorist
2018-03-10 23:00
Lul? Braindead? They play different teams for wesg
2018-03-10 23:23
how is it s1mple that made him withdraw if they wouldnt even be playing for the same team at the tournament?
2018-03-11 02:42
#185
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Denmark Xipingu 
Stfu.
2018-03-11 15:16
Nice
2018-03-10 22:27
#4
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Portugal Joefilas 
Personal issues personal issues personal issues... This is so obviously not true
2018-03-10 22:29
Could be personal issues within the team. Who knows. They never mentioned which personal issues. So chill.
2018-03-10 22:57
Well even if it is: WESG planned an event and they decided to participate. You can't back down on it unless you communicate a good reason not to to your team and the event organisers. You don't need to disclose it to the public but from the tweets we've seen, he informed noone about the specific reasons. That's unprofessional and shouldn't just be accepted.
2018-03-11 09:19
#161
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Lithuania arres 
Lol. How do you who communicates what in private from tweets?
2018-03-11 09:42
seized's tweets make it pretty apparent, if he would've listed a good reason, he's probably understand.
2018-03-11 21:21
Totally agree. Withdrawing days before the event starting without strong reason is very unprofessional.
2018-03-11 11:16
#5
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Russia AR4ER 
wtf?
2018-03-10 22:28
#6
Lekr0 | 
Peru synergy_ 
Rip
2018-03-10 22:28
#7
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Sweden Virr 
BS
2018-03-10 22:28
cry like a girl
2018-03-10 22:28
Haha nice
2018-03-10 22:28
#11
TACO | 
Portugal MSANTOS 
More Excuses, disband NAVI
2018-03-10 22:28
#66
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United States PepeBizon 
+1
2018-03-10 22:53
#13
 | 
United States SilveryoHD 
without s1mple they are tier 2
2018-03-10 22:29
#19
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Kazakhstan Spurdo 
2 times major finalists tier2
2018-03-10 22:29
#38
ropz | 
United Kingdom Roarhaven 
Different team, different era. Put that team back together now and it’ll fall flat on its arse, regardless of personal issues between players
2018-03-10 22:32
#42
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Kazakhstan Spurdo 
tell that to guardian who became top tier awper again right after he left s1mple
2018-03-10 22:35
#65
ropz | 
United Kingdom Roarhaven 
He was demotivated, and yeah, maybe him and s1mple didn’t get on. But you won’t find 1 analyst who says s1mple is the reason na’vi are shit
2018-03-10 22:52
Edward was decent back then so was seized and zeus was a good tactician together with starix. Yeah players might be the same but their form was good, now they look lost and also individual skill is not that good.
2018-03-10 23:03
Seized is a sad story, dude used to be a beast. Being an IGL for whatever reason fucking ruined him last year
2018-03-11 00:03
tier 3*
2018-03-10 22:29
Idiot? They are in different teans
2018-03-10 23:24
#178
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Romania Tise 
The eternal amerimutt
2018-03-11 14:06
#14
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Switzerland zero_hoes 
2 pussy to play wo simple
2018-03-10 22:29
#15
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Russia infernal1 
Ooookey...
2018-03-10 22:29
#16
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Israel davkin 
Wtf is happening..
2018-03-10 22:29
#79
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France Mevleffy 
Your team is falling apart
2018-03-10 23:02
#82
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Israel davkin 
Yes.. That's Sad..
2018-03-10 23:04
i still don't understand the logic behind this, you just don't do stuff like this when the tournament is about to start.... edit: i was so fking hyped up to see this ukrainian squad play on a big LAN event, nothing but a shame...
2018-03-10 22:30
Flamie is too tired to play CS, so he will stay home and play PUBG
2018-03-10 22:29
*football manager oh, wait, he already doing it..
2018-03-10 23:34
Rip :(
2018-03-10 22:29
GG Navi disbanding finally
2018-03-10 22:30
professionalism 0/8
2018-03-10 22:30
116.4 hrs last two weeks on football manager...
2018-03-10 22:30
#81
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France Mevleffy 
PSG -Unai Emery +Flamie
2018-03-10 23:03
OK, this particular statement basically confirms what everyone was thinking. Na'Vi is fucked.
2018-03-10 22:30
#29
NEO | 
World Vidua 
I don't see any explanation. Don't want to explain then shut up instead of wasting everyone's time with more bs.
2018-03-10 22:30
#30
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Belarus ARHAIZIYA 
What a softy ...
2018-03-10 22:30
#31
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World nakTriceps 
pff
2018-03-10 22:31
#32
KRIMZ | 
Denmark slacking 
expected from unprofessional CIS scum
2018-03-10 22:31
#33
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France Ryzerr 
Where is the explanation ?
2018-03-10 22:31
#46
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Latvia im da bes 
take rest
2018-03-10 22:39
#34
Petra | 
China wusif 
he didn't explain anything?????? nice title mira
2018-03-10 22:31
basically - na'vi need this time to get their shit together
2018-03-10 22:31
#96
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Israel Stryger 
Not N'avi, but the players as individuals.
2018-03-10 23:29
wesg is interesting event before of start, so much drama here.
2018-03-10 22:31
#40
ShahZaM | 
Russia cnd2mn 
wtf man? wtf man? wtf man?
2018-03-10 22:32
just replace him with mir still ez 4 russia
2018-03-11 04:30
#41
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Finland Alko^ 
he is depresse i know but its not excuse
2018-03-10 22:32
They should receive a penalty. Probably the same problem with ukraine. They placed first in the qualifiers and now they fuck up the entire tournament by leaving at the last minute because they dont want to play but instead want to focus on their future? Its not supposed to be a game that they can join whenever they want and quit whenever they want. Its a 1.5M $ event ffs they are making it a joke why play the quals in the first place
2018-03-10 22:35
#149
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France Deadfish 
ikr, left in the last minute is unforgivable. They fucked up the whole event.
2018-03-11 05:42
#45
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North America Arixx 
is seized still waiting at the airport???
2018-03-10 22:37
#83
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France Mevleffy 
Legend says seized is still waiting
2018-03-10 23:05
Flamie is a baby
2018-03-10 22:41
Standard kiddy bs. No respect for anything or anyone.
2018-03-10 22:45
#56
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Paraguay HighAIching 
Exhausted from playing cs
2018-03-10 22:45
#59
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Turkey haram123 
navi team no ecs team players no playing wesg facebook.com/VTR12345/posts/177765375229..
2018-03-10 22:49
#61
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Turkey haram123 
lol navi yönetim amborga !
2018-03-10 22:49
#60
ShahZaM | 
Russia cnd2mn 
Maybe they made a revolution with Simple in NAVI and took control of the organization on their own and now are sitting and looking for new teammates. Then it is all justified
2018-03-10 22:49
amazing respect to your nationtal team, go fuck urself
2018-03-10 22:50
#69
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Finland Smoonah 
why they say personal issues and then not discuss further if issues on team or individual. just makes yourself seem like a like you're the issue or bipolar or somit
2018-03-10 22:55
sure Kapp
2018-03-10 22:59
Flamie toxic Flamie destroyed russia
2018-03-10 23:00
#85
mixwell | 
Spain Alser 
i.e. too tilted to fly to China
2018-03-10 23:07
#86
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Russia alexgone 
fat hoe
2018-03-10 23:10
#90
MICHU | 
Poland papaski2 
personal issues personal issues personal issues axaxaxaxa
2018-03-10 23:11
Keeping practice to lost ECS spot Nice
2018-03-10 23:12
#94
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Europe nip_fanboy 
hahaha sure pig
2018-03-10 23:26
#95
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Israel Stryger 
I agree with flamie
2018-03-10 23:28
#97
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Poland Marcines 
personal issues - tilt
2018-03-10 23:32
#109
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Kazakhstan ezBORAT 
+1
2018-03-11 00:00
Stupid
2018-03-10 23:36
🐍 sssss
2018-03-10 23:38
Mr. Putin pls hang this traitor
2018-03-10 23:44
#104
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Ukraine extezy10 
: i dont want to play with staraya huynya
2018-03-10 23:45
* I want to play football manager
2018-03-11 08:50
0 respect for flamie and s1mple, they should be banned from pro scene
2018-03-10 23:46
THERE IS ALWAYS PERSONAL ISSUES FUCK YOUR PERSONAL ISSUES YOU IDIOTS
2018-03-10 23:48
#148
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France Deadfish 
+1
2018-03-11 05:39
#107
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Europe potatomato 
Expected from Egor ''TwoFaced'' Toledo
2018-03-10 23:50
#108
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Kazakhstan ezBORAT 
flamie is boring of CS, no respect to fans, no respect the scene no respect nothing, fak you faking fat boy .!.
2018-03-10 23:59
I refuse to believe that this has nothing to do with losing to godsent. S1mple is saying how they have been practicing insanely hard over the last 2 weeks. So their spirits are most likely crushed for having played so much cs and still failing to qualify. I’m not sure why they’re lying, it’s weird.
2018-03-11 00:04
#114
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Ukraine django_cs 
steamcommunity.com/id/flamie7 He closed his Steam profile, now no one will see how he plays football manager. gj ⁣🏀    👑     ##| 👆🏿    👴🏿       |   🐛💤👔🐛     |       ⛽⁣  👉🏿   |y       ⚡👟     |     🎸    🌂   |y    👢      👢  | ...
2018-03-11 00:07
#119
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Ukraine extezy10 
:D
2018-03-11 00:43
lmao
2018-03-11 02:29
#134
BOOBIE | 
United States lybrel 
Lmao +HLTV GOLD
2018-03-11 03:10
#175
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Israel raaVz 
rofl
2018-03-11 12:37
#116
s1mple | 
Turkey solfex 
What a dickhead..
2018-03-11 00:12
Simple and flamie are pissed. Or they’re so embarrassed that they don’t want to face the humiliation of getting stomped because Edward and Zeus can’t hit water if they fell out of a boat.
2018-03-11 00:13
#147
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France Deadfish 
s1mple aside, flaime in another team but he also quit. This is what we called asshole.
2018-03-11 05:37
Flamie in another team? He left NaVi? I’m not seeing that anywhere. What did you call? Lol I’m confused as fuck by how vague your comment was.
2018-03-11 05:48
#153
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France Deadfish 
There are two teams, Ukraine and Russia team. S1mple in Ukraine team and flamie in russia team, can we stop your stupid now?
2018-03-11 06:37
Flamie top 1 <3
2018-03-11 00:19
ROFL, "Flamie explains the situation" "personal reasons" GJFLAMIE I UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING NOW
2018-03-11 00:44
lol my reaction to their reactions
2018-03-11 05:09
i travel to china land to see flamie and he does this. I am crying :(
2018-03-11 01:17
if not bait then feelsbadman :(
2018-03-11 02:29
not bait man. I am from Brazil but in asia for work and managed to get time off. I have been a big flamie fan for ages and finally get to see him live
2018-03-11 20:00
that really sucks dude. >:( these players really trigger me man lose one match and throw tantrums
2018-03-12 02:55
Pussy, he is trash anyways
2018-03-11 01:20
#125
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United Kingdom Fizzhaz 
It's cause they both use the same coder and the recent update fucked their hacks
2018-03-11 01:25
#146
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France Deadfish 
nice explanation
2018-03-11 05:36
#126
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Portugal dracø 
yeah, nice explanation.. S1mple and flamie backed down, but Edward and Zeus would play anyway, so it can't be a team decision to just take a break from playing. They should be professiona, This is disrespectful for both their teammates that they left hanging and for the tournament organizer that now needs to find how to replace 1 team(maybe 2, if Russia also withdraws).
2018-03-11 01:33
Immaturity. And throwing away a chance at HUGE prize money. If you are building national inter-organizational all-star teams, you must have back-up options and trust in those you choose.
2018-03-11 02:19
Sigh these kids, what has esports come to? REMEMBER WHEN TOURNEYS GAVE ONLY 10,000$ AND PEOPLE WOULD GO?
2018-03-11 02:30
+1
2018-03-11 08:47
ez 4 mir
2018-03-11 04:32
#144
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France Deadfish 
Don't do this in last minute. This kind of troll can destroy whole team.
2018-03-11 05:24
#170
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Sweden Div-\ 
Tbf they deserve a huge kick in the ass by their organisation. This is disrespectful and it damages navi's image.
2018-03-11 10:53
#145
seized | 
Russia duxhux 
s1mple flamie hooch DODGERS
2018-03-11 05:28
#157
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Ukraine minemax 
All this is so strange, damn...
2018-03-11 08:59
SAMOGON TASHIIIII :DDD
2018-03-11 10:17
How about give the tournament organisers time to replace players you idiot players.
2018-03-11 10:25
#165
United Kingdom m0o 
NaVi always have been crybabies. They're as bad as G2 with NBKry. Just because they dont win and get outplayed by decent teams they think they shouldn't lose to. Flamie and simple think they are soooo good, pure arrogance and both toxic af At least teams like fnatic and NiP just accept the losses, dont whine, grind more and come back stronger with good results, fnatic especially. NiP will be strong this year with dennis
2018-03-11 10:44
#180
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Romania Tise 
Cool story
2018-03-11 14:11
#196
United Kingdom m0o 
navi fangay detected
2018-03-12 13:54
#166
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Russia Guttural_God 
Flamie: " I will not be able to go to the WESG, because I need more time for playing Football Manager (personal issues)"
2018-03-11 10:45
You understand s1mple(ua) has nothing to do with flamie(ru) this event?
2018-03-11 10:49
#169
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Sweden Div-\ 
What a douchebag. He could have said this way before and the team could have sorted things out differently. Now he fucked his team and his fans. What a moron. Just like simple.
2018-03-11 10:51
#171
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Poland kRAMERO 
flamie for mother russia XD
2018-03-11 11:03
lol what a bunch of kids,he literally has no reason to it,thats so fucking unprofessional from both S1mple and him
2018-03-11 11:14
Personal issues is a new meme
2018-03-11 11:51
#179
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United Arab Emirates Redafas 
tilt with s1mple
2018-03-11 14:08
Its obvious he and s1mple had a conflict with Zeus/Edward. S1mple felt that it would be a waste to just go there ( with Edward and Zeus ). Pretty sure, thats the brutal truth.
2018-03-11 15:06
Bring tired in 2k18 4Head
2018-03-13 08:59
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