fnatic to sign Xizt - Report

MIRAA
March 12th, 2018 00:54

fnatic are looking to replace in-game leader Maikil "Golden" Selim with former Ninjas in Pyjamas member Richard "Xizt" Landström, according to a report from Flickshot.fr.

The report comes as a surprise as fnatic have just won IEM Katowice after beating FaZe in the final, bringing a two-year title drought to an end.

Maikil "Golden" Selim was promoted by fnatic from the organisation's academy team in August in the aftermath of Olof "olofmeister" Kajbjer's departure to FaZe. Since his arrival, fnatic have climbed back up the world ranking, in which they are currently fifth - their best placement in almost two years.

Xizt could wear the fnatic jersey once again

But it seems that not all is well within the team outside the game, with fnatic reportedly looking into the possibility of signing Richard "Xizt" Landström, who is assessing his options after being replaced by Dennis "dennis" Edman on NiP's starting roster.

The 27-year-old is no stranger to fnatic, having represented the organisation between 2010 and 2012. During this period, he most notably guided the team to success at the IEM V European Championship Finals, DreamHack Winter 2011 and Copenhagen Games 2012.

Golden will soon travel to China with the rest of the fnatic to compete at the WESG World Finals. The Swedish team have been drawn in Group G, which also features current ELEAGUE Major Boston champions Cloud9.

fnatic's reported new roster will look as follows:

Sweden Jesper "JW" Wecksell
Sweden Robin "flusha" Rönnquist
Sweden Freddy "KRIMZ" Johansson
Sweden Jonas "Lekr0" Olofsson
Sweden Richard "Xizt" Landström 

Sweden Richard 'Xizt' Landström
Richard 'Xizt' Landström
Age:
27
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.02
Maps played:
1340
KPR:
0.69
DPR:
0.65
APR:
0.17
Sweden Olof 'olofmeister' Kajbjer
Olof 'olofmeister' Kajbjer
Age:
26
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
1.11
Maps played:
1079
KPR:
0.76
DPR:
0.65
APR:
0.14
Sweden Maikil 'Golden' Selim
Maikil 'Golden' Selim
Age:
24
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
0.94
Maps played:
375
KPR:
0.64
DPR:
0.69
APR:
0.14
Sweden Freddy 'KRIMZ' Johansson
Freddy 'KRIMZ' Johansson
Age:
24
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.07
Maps played:
1113
KPR:
0.71
DPR:
0.63
APR:
0.15
Sweden Jesper 'JW' Wecksell
Jesper 'JW' Wecksell
Age:
23
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.08
Maps played:
1333
KPR:
0.75
DPR:
0.68
APR:
0.14
Sweden Dennis 'dennis' Edman
Dennis 'dennis' Edman
Age:
27
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.05
Maps played:
801
KPR:
0.73
DPR:
0.68
APR:
0.13
Sweden Jonas 'Lekr0' Olofsson
Jonas 'Lekr0' Olofsson
Age:
24
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.05
Maps played:
576
KPR:
0.72
DPR:
0.67
APR:
0.15
Sweden Robin 'flusha' Rönnquist
Robin 'flusha' Rönnquist
Age:
24
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.08
Maps played:
1337
KPR:
0.73
DPR:
0.65
APR:
0.18
#1
Other ;_; 
LUL
2018-03-12 00:55
#15
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Czech Republic popoa 
WTF
2018-03-12 00:55
#29
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Sweden JQ1336 
ye wtf
2018-03-12 00:56
#115
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Other anarh1st47 
expected
2018-03-12 01:01
#172
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Portugal phvm 
Jeseeee top 5?
2018-03-12 01:09
wtf?????????
2018-03-12 01:14
nice logic fnatic, right after they won a tournament after 2 years
2018-03-12 01:27
#270
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Austria shaakeh 
????? WTF FNATIC I kinda would like to see that tho
2018-03-12 01:32
#273
ELMO | 
Sweden herb 
its fake
2018-03-12 01:33
Hopefully wtff
2018-03-12 09:40
Yeah, like WTF
2018-03-12 12:39
#942
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Netherlands HetIsPatat 
I think it's racism. They want to get rid of the only non ethnic in their team.
2018-03-14 17:42
Non ethnic? I think u meant poc/muslim/foreigner. Everybody belongs to an ethnic group, so thats not the word you use.
2018-03-20 09:18
#961
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Netherlands HetIsPatat 
I meant to say "they want to get rid of the only ethnic on their team", not 'non ethnic'. Thank you for pointing out the mistake! FYI, definition of ethnic: 1) relating to a population subgroup within a larger or dominant national or cultural group --- thus a Turk amongst Swedes. Anyway, they listened to me and don't want to be racists so they are keeping him now :) (#956).
2018-03-20 11:00
Are you really that stupid?
2018-03-12 04:24
#625
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Hungary showee 
they won because of Krimz and flusha....
2018-03-12 09:31
#752
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Turkey loutz 
+1
2018-03-12 13:32
For your information, a team is made of 5 players, each one had a role in the title
2018-03-12 14:20
#805
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Hungary showee 
yee but they win because flusha and Krimz playing godlike and not because Golden make some magic tax... so the change is not so bad...
2018-03-12 15:49
#932
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Europe 9NAGA 
U mean played with aimbot?
2018-03-13 20:44
You just judge by outside of the game which you can watch. But the whole thing is different in term of team dynamics where g0lden involves.
2018-03-12 17:51
#877
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Hungary showee 
Golden is the GOD of CSGO :D /end
2018-03-12 20:19
Indeed they havent been that good for such a long time and now they change ? DoubleUTIÄF Never change a working system...
2018-03-12 10:32
Exactly, if it happens I'll hope that they start playing terrible because golden doesn't deserve this
2018-03-12 14:19
They probably started looking into Xizt before the latest tourney win. Overall Xizt is better, but now when they finally showed that they can compete for the top spot with Golden it's a bit off an odd choice to go for it, especially if they do good in WESG.
2018-03-12 19:19
Xizt is better individually but he is a shit IGL. Barely even an IGL. The major winning roster had no set roles other than Friberg was entry fragger and GTR was lurker.
2018-03-16 10:05
#696
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Singapore Kerk 
Golden not good enough so xizt will be a good addition
2018-03-12 11:15
NO IT WASN'T
2018-03-12 01:28
#429
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North America KingCole14 
HLTV baited us
2018-03-12 03:16
#701
JW | 
Russia Tbontb 
+1
2018-03-12 11:26
#118
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Mongolia Tendies 
What why
2018-03-12 01:01
*Golden reading HLTV while at WESG* ...guys?
2018-03-12 00:56
#94
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United States Jrfaster 
Lol
2018-03-12 00:59
#98
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Australia IAmAutistic 
+1 Feelsbadman FeelsBetrayedman
2018-03-12 01:00
#177
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Argentina W0LFy[RushB] 
LOL
2018-03-12 01:09
#232
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United States Will767 
Lol
2018-03-12 01:23
#245
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Portugal sotaM38 
they just won an event
2018-03-12 01:27
#275
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Pakistan SuPer_CoDi 
HAHAhha lol
2018-03-12 01:33
+1111111
2018-03-12 01:36
#346
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Spain KiRo^ 
lol
2018-03-12 02:09
hahahahaha
2018-03-12 06:50
#607
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Denmark raaVz 
hahah +1
2018-03-12 08:56
#624
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Sweden TomodachiOM 
Hahaha
2018-03-12 09:31
HAHAH, probably
2018-03-12 09:42
#655
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Sweden ThorinEk 
Lmao
2018-03-12 10:20
Lmfao
2018-03-12 10:27
#709
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Germany Tunio 
HAHAHHAHA
2018-03-12 11:45
#716
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North America Arixx 
:D
2018-03-12 11:55
#740
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Malaysia byaIi 
lol
2018-03-12 12:48
xD
2018-03-12 13:32
+1 GG No Re
2018-03-12 15:08
HAHA, oh man I needed that.
2018-03-12 15:12
#832
ropz | 
Estonia Vexil 
hahahaha +1
2018-03-12 17:45
#965
suNny | 
United States VAZ1R 
LMAO +1
2018-03-28 01:20
#70
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Argentina [Darkaren] 
Not gonna happen tho.
2018-03-12 00:57
#142
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Czech Republic CZGO 
Ye probably it was talked out after starladder were they got crushed by noob teams
2018-03-12 01:04
This is a sick yoke Pls wake me up
2018-03-12 00:58
I see What you did there Yoke haha
2018-03-12 02:10
#36
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Uruguay Wannkainn 
LUL finally it was a swap between dennis and Xizt
2018-03-12 00:56
Does not make sense, they just fckn won a tournament
2018-03-12 00:56
#99
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Russia Rip_X 
I know right. It’s like kicking coach valens for coach seang@res, why tho? If they won a tournament with current roster then the better choice is unnecessary
2018-03-12 00:59
#365
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Uruguay Wannkainn 
Maybe they have personal problems between them, remember zeus won pgl major and left gambit
2018-03-12 02:21
#545
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China zhoQueeN 
that was the worst major ever so it doesnt really matter
2018-03-12 07:16
#551
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Uruguay Wannkainn 
Anyway Gambit was a very good team in those days, there was no need of change
2018-03-12 07:25
c9 major best underdog run
2018-03-12 08:35
*best
2018-03-12 08:55
#712
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Germany Tunio 
This years eleague was worse
2018-03-12 11:46
Remember Zeus?
2018-03-12 09:39
Hahahahaha classic fnatic, they used golden and decide to abenden him.
2018-03-12 00:57
#656
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Sweden ThorinEk 
Abandon*
2018-03-12 10:20
Maybe he meant "Gabenden" him ? idk bro
2018-03-12 19:20
#161
NaOw | 
Spain 3rg00s3 
When Golden is playing well, Fnatic want to chage him. LUL
2018-03-12 01:07
#848
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United Kingdom Mattors 
It's most likely due to personal reasons, maybe they just don't get on our the team want to do something that he dosen't want to, or the whole story is bs, who knows
2018-03-12 18:50
Not fair
2018-03-12 01:07
Gana la Katowice y lo peinan HULIO!
2018-03-12 06:54
#630
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Kazakhstan tomik0 
WTF
2018-03-12 09:35
so stupid if they do it
2018-03-12 10:46
#721
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Germany Saxmut 
pls no
2018-03-12 11:59
what did happen there? after a great tournament lead by golden it's coming to a replacement, very weird
2018-03-12 14:00
OH NO BABY WHAT IS YOU DOING
2018-03-12 14:28
Y so fast?
2018-03-12 16:02
more like omegalul x999999999999999999999999999999
2018-03-12 17:46
#844
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India OV3RDRiVE 
Really really dumb move by Fnatic! I mean really dumb!!!!!!!!!!!
2018-03-12 18:27
This is a huge mistake. xizt is not an IGL. [*] fnatic 2018-2018
2018-03-12 00:55
#38
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Argentina [Darkaren] 
Rip Fnatic. They would do better having Ex6TenZ than Xizt.
2018-03-12 00:56
#76
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Sweden kallespann 
IGL role so overrated.. Its 2018 they all know how to play cs no micro manage needed just mid round calls, and xizt mid round calls has always been solid on T side now with dennis, NiP stack and gamble a lot more on CT side If u could say something xizt rarley did was taking risks on ct side
2018-03-12 00:57
Remind me how many 250k+ USD tournaments did teams without true IGLs won in 2017-2018? And then look at FaZe and SK.
2018-03-12 01:06
Good point
2018-03-12 01:16
#244
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United States Baitor 
>karrigan >true igl LUL
2018-03-12 01:26
NA any IGLS? LUL
2018-03-12 02:02
#362
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United States Baitor 
NA is a meme, nice try though.
2018-03-12 02:18
Tarik, nitro already better than all DANISH IGL LUL
2018-03-12 02:32
#388
ELMO | 
Sweden herb 
not really
2018-03-12 02:33
#404
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Canada _Dark__ 
Facking HLTV double post
2018-03-12 02:49
#405
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Canada _Dark__ 
The day tarik and nitro are better than danish IGL is the day Trump abandons the wall.
2018-03-12 02:48
he did abandon it tho, so i guess tarik & nitr0 > all danish igl?
2018-03-12 02:58
#466
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Canada _Dark__ 
his heart never abandoned it
2018-03-12 04:12
#568
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Denmark Twok 
ayyy
2018-03-12 07:55
C9 just won the major, liquid won summit, so yes theyre better than any danish choker karrigan, glave and aziy's boyfriend MSL.
2018-03-12 04:14
#538
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Poland ToxoFox 
Summit is so important xddd And major was just pure luck, everything worked in C9s favor.
2018-03-12 07:00
"fan of ago" "poorland" c9 run wasn't luck
2018-03-12 08:36
#599
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Poland ToxoFox 
It was. Other teams werent at their best, crowd was ghosting and all of c9s players got on their peak. Starladder 9-11th and IEM 5-6th, as you see they arent top 5 even
2018-03-12 08:42
you are braindead lmfao amazing
2018-03-12 08:43
#681
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Norway Rednaxela 
It was a fluke you idiot. Danish igls just choke like liquid and c9 always have done. Liquid is the only good NA team too and its not because of their igl
2018-03-12 10:49
#880
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United States Baitor 
hes fanboy of rain biggest final choker after niko, ignore him lul
2018-03-12 20:40
#837
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Sweden sensei256 
Columbus 2016 was a fluke too then.
2018-03-12 17:56
shut up and eat hamburger fat dogs
2018-03-12 18:53
i'm not fat my BMI is 17.1
2018-03-13 00:00
#539
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United States BongWater 
+69
2018-03-12 07:01
Remind me how many tournaments have faze and astralis won vs c9 and liquid?
2018-03-12 07:03
#871
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Canada _Dark__ 
i gotcha fam #870
2018-03-12 20:04
FNS???? FNS used to be worth a shit ton of money (while on clg)
2018-03-12 05:20
Seang@res
2018-03-12 03:59
Sgares, Dazed both better igls than any EU igl (retired but who gives a fuck EU only has pronax)
2018-03-12 10:29
Name me any team in the past year that won a top tier event without an IGL
2018-03-12 01:27
#269
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Sweden kallespann 
g2 all teams have IGL but my point is some player in the team can pick it up like nitr0 in liquid, he didnt play cs for long and just picked it up
2018-03-12 01:32
You're picking 2 players who are dedicated IGLs Shox has IGL'd for 2 years now. And Liquid didn't win with Nitr0 IGLing for like 6 months.
2018-03-12 01:33
#279
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Sweden kallespann 
c9 and liquid are perfect all 5 players skilled and no one is a "true" IGL they share the role/someone pick it up gtr or f0rest can pick it up if it fails with dennis its just being a leader, watching some demos and talking to the teams analyst/coach
2018-03-12 01:34
That's not even close to true. They don't share the role. What are you even talking about? In both of those teams, tarik and Nitr0 are the dedicated IGLs, they make all the calls. And manage everything.
2018-03-12 01:35
#355
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Turkmenistan HanselCSGod 
This is not very accurate what you meant to say is the coach does all the work and the player just takes full credit for it like Na'vi when Starix was there. Also it's not just the coach most teams these days have a team of analysts and others helping behind the scene, the amount of credit players get for things they aren't doing is pretty unreal.
2018-03-12 02:14
#366
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Denmark RandomDane 
It doesn't have to. You're right with that, in some teams. But the coach is like for the mentality more.
2018-03-12 02:21
#372
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Turkmenistan HanselCSGod 
The coach is the guy that takes care of everything, he helps the IGL, he observes demo's and gives advice and pointers, he comes up with things on his own and teaches the teams, he takes care of their schedules for online matches so they don't clash with different leagues, books their flights for events, there also for moral support etc etc not every team is the same but a lot of the times most players get credit for everything even the things they aren't doing.
2018-03-12 02:24
#686
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Denmark RandomDane 
As I said, yes some part. It depends what the team needs. Its not like, any other person at the team could watch a demo and say "Everytime Astralis does this strat, device is always at this point." Etc. What a coach is really therefor, is for holding the head cold, in heated moments. Its easier for that person to stay cold in these situations. The coach is there for observes to spot things the players doesnt see. Cuz you've a different view as coach.
2018-03-12 11:03
Well with Dennis he can IGL AND get Frags unlike most IGL
2018-03-12 03:45
#283
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Sweden kallespann 
im just tired of the concept having to recruit a freaking BOT cause "IGL" is so important, just let a skilled player do it ffs its 2018 and cs is not rocket sience anymore the meta is so well established
2018-03-12 01:35
Yeah because that worked so well for G2 LOL
2018-03-12 01:36
#287
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Sweden kallespann 
it worked for c9 and liquid ur argument is invalid
2018-03-12 01:36
No, I already covered that argument in another topic. Both tarik and nitr0 are dedicated IGLs who micromanage everyone. Also the argument of "It worked for 1 team so it would work for everyone" is a very stupid argument.
2018-03-12 01:37
#299
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Sweden kallespann 
if 2 kids from NA, including peanut brain tarik, who both played t1 cs since 2 years only can micromanage and be true IGL then so can any fcking skilled player in the scene u dont need to recruit some 1.6 old cs man who playe the game for 10 years and cannot frag anymore
2018-03-12 01:39
Again, worked really well for G2 and Fnatic with flusha lmao
2018-03-12 01:40
#313
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Sweden kallespann 
you just said that shox was a dedicated IGL when I mentioned they were a team without proper IGL winning tournaments and fnatic were good with flusha IGL, 6 tournaments in a row. when they got back togheter they didnt achieve sucess but that doesnt prove anything, also its just one team what a retard u are
2018-03-12 01:48
Peanut brain yet alone NiP only won 1 major tournament last year, Didnt qualify for the major. And you saying Tarik is a peanut brain??? Get a life.
2018-03-12 03:47
You do realise that IGL's tend to do not that well due to the actual role of being an IGL right? Having to micromanage means not being focused entirely on getting frags. People who are new to IGLing tend to do better stat wise than IGL's who have been playing for a long time due to new IGL's not putting as much focus on micromanaging, they do well individually like Tarik or Nitro but that usually only ever helps for a short period of time, like how when Dennis came to fnatic and they dominated for 6 months and then all of a sudden fell off a cliff. Teams need dedicated long time IGL's for stability, the loose and unfocused IGL's will always hit brick walls and fall off a cliff if their stars aren't performing at their peak.
2018-03-12 08:59
#507
REZ | 
Israel ranco101 
It is not true... Tarik is not a true in game leader... Just to remind you when tarik and rush joined c9 tarik wasn't the igl... After like a month or two he picked it up from stew
2018-03-12 06:09
No stew said he picked it up like 2 days after the change
2018-03-12 10:32
Liquid learned to play CS as soon as a dedicated igl joined Them “Steel”. He said he gives The input he likes to Nitr0, since his english ain’t good enough to call yet. Tarik has been a fine igl for a while. I see him as a true Leader. Not The smartest, but still a true Leader.
2018-03-12 02:06
#290
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Sweden kallespann 
tarik and nitr0 arent that experienced to t1 cs, the played in it since 2015-2016 they are no masterminds they just picked it up and they can frag thats how it should be
2018-03-12 01:37
#896
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Canada Yoseikanben 
Experience is not the way you judge an igl look at friberg he was the igl in optic and he was pure shit. While young Igl like Golden lead his team to a win.
2018-03-12 23:55
G2... A solid example why you need one in first place xdxdxd
2018-03-12 01:34
#271
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Luxembourg _hhh 
g2 and nip both won events last year, and i'd say the "IGL" (If you can even call shox/xizt one) played a very, very minor part in it.
2018-03-12 01:32
They are both dedicated IGLs.
2018-03-12 01:33
Every team HAS to have a Dedicated IGL to actually win. They are not playing like normal MM. They are playing Competitivly.
2018-03-12 03:48
Yes, that's the point I've been making. Scroll up. You'll see that I am arguing that teams need an IGL.
2018-03-12 04:37
Ik I'm just saying because there's retarded people saying you don't need one
2018-03-12 06:47
best part all of them are from sweden. That makes sense XD
2018-03-12 09:24
#842
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Luxembourg _hhh 
ok we are using different meanings of every team has an igl. While you are correct that shox and xizt are indeed filling the IGL role for their team, I would not call them an IGL as a player, as they are neither good at it or really suited for it at this point. That was just a misunderstanding on my part, my bad.
2018-03-12 18:16
So not being particularly good at the role means you are not the role? So if a quarterback is bad he is not a quarterback? So if a salesman is bad he is not a salesman? If a soldier is bad he is not a soldier? Do you realize how dumb that logic is?
2018-03-12 18:53
#89
NENO | 
Macedonia hextick 
They can bounce their igl positions like they did before Golden got promoted
2018-03-12 00:58
Remind me what did they achieve after IEM Katowice 2016? And then remind me why did flusha tried to play with pronax in GODSENT if fnatic were still a "good" team?
2018-03-12 01:00
#400
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Sweden Zae 
They won iem Katowice 2018 arter Katowice 2016 )
2018-03-12 02:46
#413
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Canada _Dark__ 
Thats the point...
2018-03-12 02:51
#460
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Sweden yayer 
?????? lol
2018-03-12 04:02
#3
suicide | 
Poland HooDle$ 
XDDDDD
2018-03-12 00:55
#4
jOELZ | 
Finland stubey 
Kek
2018-03-12 00:55
#5
Matvey | 
Russia M4TV3Y 
b
2018-03-12 00:55
#6
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Russia Rip_X 
Best team Sweden for sure
2018-03-12 00:55
#7
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Spain _Kan0n 
Wut
2018-03-12 00:55
#8
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Slovakia Sleev 
Wat
2018-03-12 00:55
noooo
2018-03-12 00:55
FNATIC 2012 is back? wtf XD
2018-03-12 00:55
#11
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United States jyroo 
hmmm
2018-03-12 00:55
#12
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Sweden godname 
FNATIC W TF
2018-03-12 00:55
Rip fnatic I guess
2018-03-12 00:55
rip fnatic
2018-03-12 00:55
#16
NiKo | 
Austria Phil_1337 
WTF NO
2018-03-12 00:55
To think they were gonna keep this roster cuz of Katowice OMEGALUL
2018-03-12 00:55
What ?
2018-03-12 00:55
#19
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Brazil RyannLP 
Wtf
2018-03-12 00:55
wtf?
2018-03-12 00:55
#21
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Mongolia tim1856 
ooof
2018-03-12 00:56
Wtf why?
2018-03-12 00:56
Why not
2018-03-12 11:56
+1
2018-03-12 20:13
#23
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Belgium FisherManXd 
Bot for Bot
2018-03-12 00:56
Nooo
2018-03-12 00:56
#25
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Europe _jUNGLE 
xizt re-joins fnatic 7 years later :)
2018-03-12 00:59
#402
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Sweden Zae 
6
2018-03-12 02:47
#26
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Lithuania eqk3 
WHAT
2018-03-12 00:56
#27
HUNDEN | 
Denmark resb1 
weirdo
2018-03-12 00:56
#28
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United Kingdom Fizzhaz 
reeeee
2018-03-12 00:56
#30
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Norway SkaMathias 
ok
2018-03-12 00:56
#31
BOOBIE | 
Turkey CHAMPTZ 
EXCUSE ME WHAT But I liked Golden.. Just like what happened with pronax, my god.
2018-03-12 00:58
they replaced pronax with a good fragger, not with a BOT
2018-03-12 01:01
Right after the major, which made themselves lose their form for two years. And right after they got form as a team, we got this report like what the heck
2018-03-12 01:02
they won 6 tournaments in a row with dennis, wtf are you talking about
2018-03-12 01:09
Only like 2 of those were tier 1 tournaments, and that was with pronax's system still in place. After like 3 months they completely fell apart and won nothing until Katowice a week ago.
2018-03-12 01:28
That was bcuz of olofs injury
2018-03-12 06:12
man you are so dumb if you think that change wasn't good back then. that run that fnatic had was the most dominating since NiP 87-0 then olof, literally the #1 player in the world back then, got injured so that's why they fell off
2018-03-12 07:28
short term solution - excellent move, long term - not so much. it was still pronax' system they were running on. if anyone remember, fnatic always fell off every now and then in 2015, things wouldn't work just as they normally do. pronax would usually take an event off as IGL and flusha would step in. they managed to reinvent themselves many times in their dominant run. first it was with dominant CT-sides in late 2014, but once the CT-heavy meta started to fade in 2015 they managed to get really good T-sides. The point is, they hit a very good streak with dennis, but without pronax, they would eventually hit a wall anyway, especially as Luminosity/SK were on the rise and they were working much harder than them. Of course olofmeister's injury is a factor that cannot be ignored as well, but I think it's a bit naive to think it was the only factor.
2018-03-12 12:07
+1 It's insane how people don't realize that the successful run with Dennis was with pronax's system. And once that didn't work for them anymore they always struggled.
2018-03-12 13:33
#767
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Netherlands Yak_41M 
+1 non-braindedder spotted
2018-03-12 13:59
so if they could keep pronax system while also adding more fire power with dennis, then how is is not a good move? olof's injury messed up their synergy and tensions arised in the team but that was nothing they could have predicted. they would've had an even longer dominant run with dennis if olof had never been injured GODSENT proved that pronax system wasn't very good without star power, and fnatic with dennis & olof was the best of both worlds - they could continue with the system pronax had established, with the help of vuggo, and still have insane fire power and no weak link and continue to ride their synergy and team work which was at its peak during that time
2018-03-12 17:49
It's difficult to get to the top. It's even more difficult to stay there. Pronax' system will work short term, but people will watch all of their demos and start countering everything they do. If they don't continue to innovate new approaches to the game, things like this happens: hltv.org/matches/2297034/cloud9-vs-fnati.. sgares was pure antistrat, and if the other fnatic would just do the same stuff, they would eventually get countered as well. Of course, god knows for how much longer fnatic would be dominant. But Luminosity/SK was still around the corner at that time and the only thing that stopped them from being better than fnatic was that fnatic had a mental edge against them. Fnatic was also just relying on their synergy and aim, which is doomed to eventually fail. A bit similar to how SK is playing today and they have been on a heavy decline. Pronax' system only works with good players. It's mainly based on JW and olof just saying what they want to individually do this round and then pronax calling a strategy based around that. If he doesn't have these players then it's just useless. But when he does, it's brilliant. TLDR: No innovation leads to eventual doom.
2018-03-13 00:33
nothing is saying they couldn't be innovative though. if you listen to their POV demos, vuggo actually did most of the antistratting, pronax just did the calling, and many of the fnatic players contributed with calls of their own all the time
2018-03-13 07:22
for me, antistratting isn't the same as being innovative, being innovative is more about finding ways to approach the game. vuggo probably did a good job of finding tendencies in other teams, but he's no pronax. fnatic was never a big antistrat team, they just played their own game.
2018-03-13 09:49
the played their own game and created one of the most dominant eras in CS:GO. even when olof returned from his injury, nowhere near his formel level, and tensions were high in the team from playing with different standins for so long, they still made decent finishes in tournaments. pronax-dennis change worked and would've continued to work for many more months if olof's injury wouldn't have happened
2018-03-13 11:04
I would have given it a couple of months before Luminosity would overtake them. I just don't see why it would last that long. They relied so heavily on skill and their internal understanding of each other. The latter will go a long way, which made them get decent results after the injury, but they can't rely on the former forever. Especially as the three prodigies, coldzera, NiKo and s1mple were on the rise. NiKo in particular could take on the whole fnatic team: hltv.org/matches/2301159/fnatic-vs-mouse.. Without really anything to give them a tactical edge, I think Luminosity would have surpassed them in a matter of a couple of tournaments. Fnatic's decline would without doubt not have been as abrupt, if not for the injury.
2018-03-13 11:47
well no one said they would be dominant forever, I just said that dennis-pronax move was good and improved them both short term and woild have improved them long term had it not been for other factors. promax was too weak of a fragger for their style, either they hdto switch him for a better fragger and keep their style, or for another IGL and change their style
2018-03-13 12:14
I have just explained to you why it wouldn't work in the long term. You're just going in circles.
2018-03-13 12:17
its all speculation from both of us, you don't know for how long it would've worked or how long it would've worked with pronax, neither do I. all we have is the most dominant streak since NiP and I would let that speak for itself
2018-03-13 12:26
I already said that it's speculation, and I'm just stating that there are so many factors that indicates that fnatic would have gone downhill, from superior players rising in other teams to lack of tactical depth. I still don't think olof's injury is the only reason for fnatic's downfall. Really good stuff for a nice storyline, but imo inaccurate.
2018-03-13 12:45
And I know olof was injuried here, but it's almost like astralis just countered the fuck out of them the next event. hltv.org/matches/2301869/astralis-vs-fna..
2018-03-13 11:57
olof's injury and the low confidence it gave the team as a whole was 100% the reason for that loss
2018-03-13 12:10
I am not buying that the injury of one player causes the rest of the team to not be able to tap heads anymore. You were saying this team would be dominant for many more months? Not happening if you rely on one player.
2018-03-13 12:16
you have no idea what it does to team spirit when your star player and friend is so much in pain that he can't perform. CS is very much a mental game. their tournament streak would have been broken eventually ofc but they would still be able to dominate for very long. there's a huge diffence between having an off gamw, and literally not being able to play because of injury
2018-03-13 12:24
If one injury is all it takes for the House of Cards to collapse, then I don't think it would have lasted that long. That is a sign of a fragile team, a team without any Plan B.
2018-03-13 12:40
+1000
2018-03-12 20:14
pronax wasn't kicked
2018-03-12 13:40
Why tho
2018-03-12 00:56
#33
United States Prop 
WutFace
2018-03-12 00:56
Xddddddddddddd
2018-03-12 00:56
#37
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United States Brandmammoth 
They just won an event... why would they do this
2018-03-12 00:56
too not miss out on the opportunity. You didn't think golden pulled master strats out of his ass. FaZe sucks
2018-03-12 01:12
You are right, some other team could have taken the xizt, golden didn't play amazing against faze.
2018-03-12 01:21
Neither did Xixt when he faced FaZe in IEM Oakland. yet alone still won.
2018-03-12 03:50
Dude, xizt clutches against faze in Oakland were crazy.
2018-03-12 07:47
Yes but neither did he perform well, Golden isnt the best either im not saying that but atleast golden won them a big title. yes Xixt did aswell but Golden still has more of a chance to win more than xixt.
2018-03-12 22:21
tbh golden's strats were more than good,u cant really win a tournament without decent strats and a decent IGL.Ever since he joined fnatic they started to improve.
2018-03-12 01:27
No, they weren't lmao Fnatic got through because of a lot of strong individual plays, as well as Faze choking. Flusha and Krimz making the big plays is what won the game for them, not Golden's strats. His strats were merely average most the time.
2018-03-12 01:29
2 players running around like headless flies cannot win you the game bro...also did u notice that everyone started playing better under golden,because he knew how to use his players,not like dennis or flusha?
2018-03-12 01:31
Or just because they aren't IGLing anymore? Krimz is no longer playing support and flusha isn't micromanaging everyone. It's not that Golden is giving them god tier strats. Anyone who has watched fnatic play can see that.
2018-03-12 01:34
okay,even if thats true,then why get xizt?Why not give someone talented a chance-like hampus for example(pretty sure he's igl of godsent).Ever since he joined godsent they are playing amazingly,why not give him a chance then?Why get someone who hasnt done anything amazing over the last years?
2018-03-12 01:36
Xizt and NiP had a shit roster and won Oakland twice in a row. "Hasn't done anything amazing"
2018-03-12 01:38
nip had a shit roster?seriously? Ill stop here
2018-03-12 01:39
If you think NiP had a good roster you're actually retarded.
2018-03-12 01:39
#544
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France t3r4byt3 
why do you think NiP had a shit roster?
2018-03-12 07:15
#407
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Sweden Zae 
FreddieB is IGL for Homesent.
2018-03-12 02:49
No he's right. Hampus took over IGLing since he joined.
2018-03-12 03:01
#525
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Sweden Zae 
that's why hampus have been performing worse.. okey
2018-03-12 06:44
Golden gave structure to fnatic, it was really important. But he isn’t really a strong fragger, and i guess it’s hard to igl ”karrigan style” when the others are so much more experienced. Xizt is a really good fragger if you let him, and also can lead team.
2018-03-12 20:16
"2 players running around like headless flies cannot win you the game bro" dude not only the igl knows how the game works. He doesn't control them like robots lol. They make strats together as a team and stuff, igl's are overrated imo. Xizt seems like a good pickup because of his good mid-round calls, and he can clutch. Fnatic winning katowice wasn't because of golden but mainly because of the mad fraggers stepping up. Whatever golden does, I bet xizt can do it better.
2018-03-12 13:46
#898
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Canada Yoseikanben 
The Igl set up the players he tells them their position and Golden gave them position where they shined because he is a good igl. Tell me one team that has a shit igl who won titles in 2017 or 2018.
2018-03-13 00:01
c9 just kinda throws the role around if I'm not mistaken. But that's not what I meant. Anybody can igl because everybody knows how the game works. It's not really what I said in the other comment, sorry for that. f0rest and gtr can probably igl if they want to but they don't want to waste their firepower. flusha was igl too for a while. "The Igl set up the players he tells them their position" yeye, but the players also know what they are good at. so if they don't speak to the igl at all about what they prefer it's gonna be hard. You work as a team and make strats, and everybody should play what they are good at. The problem in many big teams is that everybody hasn't found their role, which makes the igl's work way harder, sk with felps for example. As long as xizt fits it should work fine. He is the more experienced player after all.
2018-03-13 08:22
#335
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United States poyoyo 
+1
2018-03-12 02:05
#39
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Argentina Zestv2 
1.6
2018-03-12 00:56
Wtf. Dumb move. Golden doing fine.
2018-03-12 00:56
#41
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Sweden Trojka03 
Lol RiP fnatic
2018-03-12 00:56
Rip fnatic
2018-03-12 00:56
WTF NO JUST WHEN FNC ARE LOOKING BEAST WTF
2018-03-12 00:56
:( rip golden
2018-03-12 00:56
gl xizt, but imo its downgrade for fnatic(
2018-03-12 00:56
imo it looks better and hopefully they can find a good chemistry. At least xizt can frag and step up sometimes. Igl's are not that important anymore imo.
2018-03-12 13:48
#46
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Japan f1M 
what?
2018-03-12 00:56
RIP fnatic
2018-03-12 00:56
#49
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Portugal RAPM 
2012 fnatic back? is old days fnatic back?
2018-03-12 00:56
WTFFF
2018-03-12 00:56
#51
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United States (Fr0st) 
Fnatic is going to regret this one
2018-03-12 00:56
Nope
2018-03-12 11:57
Wtf, after won iem?
2018-03-12 00:56
GG
2018-03-12 00:56
#54
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Sweden Rexz 
fnatic.Xizt PogChamp
2018-03-12 00:56
he was fnatic before NiP tho so meh
2018-03-12 01:27
Like the old times
2018-03-12 11:57
#55
Poland rdkN 
why would them wtf
2018-03-12 00:56
#710
cromen | 
Netherlands 072 
why would them wtf
2018-03-12 11:45
i was don't know this details they*
2018-03-12 16:10
#818
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Netherlands YourT 
Why would them wtf
2018-03-12 16:24
IT ISNT CONFIRMED CALM DOWN
2018-03-12 00:56
#819
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Netherlands YourT 
+1 - ur too late, hltv has gone wild already
2018-03-12 16:25
it's a good adding...but they were playing well why do they have to a change.............
2018-03-12 00:57
#58
mixwell | 
Spain loviac 
Kkkkk
2018-03-12 00:57
this is Islamophobic smh
2018-03-12 00:57
most likely like wtf
2018-03-12 01:00
Golden is actually a Christian you little SJW :))))
2018-03-12 01:40
I was joking lol, I couldnt care less
2018-03-12 02:29
source?
2018-03-12 02:51
#614
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Bulgaria AboveYall 
He was wearing necklace with cross hltv.org/gallery/view/97386
2018-03-12 09:17
#60
Nifty | 
United States fizZz^ 
UBASDVYASDYBUADSKDSUYBADSUN W WHY WHY
2018-03-12 00:57
You fuckin what?
2018-03-12 00:57
#62
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Netherlands autimotic 
LMAO. 'yeah lets replace our IGL'. Hope this is a bait otherwise RIP Fnatic xD
2018-03-12 00:57
theyre replacing their igl with another igl
2018-03-12 01:01
#409
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Netherlands EJVN 
no, they are replacing arguably a good IGL with a proven-to-be-shit IGL
2018-03-12 02:49
golden was garbage and the team doesnt need firepower at IGL
2018-03-12 03:06
#428
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Netherlands EJVN 
english maybe?
2018-03-12 03:12
xizt isn't shit. at least he can frag unlike golden lul. Igl's are not that important, just look at faze with all their fancy ass strats who still can't achieve anything. Fnatic won because krimz and flusha stepped up and there is no counter to that. Everybody knows how to play the game not just the igl so imo it's not that important. You need to make strats together with your team. Xizt has done very good mid-round calls too which I think can help them.
2018-03-12 13:53
#804
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United Kingdom FEodAL 
xizt doesnt have any mid round calls, its just the same shit all these so called IGLs were doing for 10 years, get a pick somewhere, do some fake and attack. Golden at least showed us some interesting splits in his short time with fnatic, while I havent seen nip do anything on this level since csgo. and xizt is not a better fragger than golden, one cant even get a kill with autosniper so go figure.
2018-03-12 15:48
why would they ever get xizt if golden is a better igl and fragger? ofc xizt can frag, he can be a real carry when he steps up.
2018-03-12 17:56
Nip was shit. Xizt is good
2018-03-12 20:19
#63
Japan III 
Lol, and this is right after JW called Golden a midget.
2018-03-12 00:57
#73
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Serbia Removekebab13 
Wait what
2018-03-12 00:57
lmao
2018-03-12 01:05
#621
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Turkey pardus 
lol is this tru
2018-03-12 09:23
Why? It's not a bad roster but I don't get it.
2018-03-12 00:57
#96
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United Kingdom Lex_csgo 
because they are playing really well with Golden and if they add Xizt this wouldn't help the roster but would make it worse. (because he isnt an IGL and flusha plays better not being one)
2018-03-12 00:59
new igl, new strats, that might not work
2018-03-12 01:07
#65
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Australia IAmAutistic 
SIGN WHAT?
2018-03-12 00:57
#68
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Spain JasonRacism 
If this is true i feel really fucking bad for Golden ...
2018-03-12 00:57
#69
dupreeh | 
Algeria xXDDXx 
they will rock the scene . xzit leading style will fits with fnatic players cauz all the 4 have big firepower and play a really good basic cs
2018-03-12 00:57
#113
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Norway Phancy11 
Jw pretty average now. If they just could -jw +draken, that would be sick af.
2018-03-12 01:01
What the fuck? JW is starting to get back to form, he's better than draken on draken's best day man wth.
2018-03-12 02:28
#395
Japan III 
Draken good (jw best)
2018-03-12 02:41
#71
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Norway Phancy11 
Lul why destroy something what actually works? Xizt in his recently form isn't better than golden. It something personal I guess. Maybe fnatic members hate muslims idk.
2018-03-12 00:57
#87
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Norway SkaMathias 
He is not muslim btw
2018-03-12 00:58
#339
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United States poyoyo 
Well its not like Golden has sick strats, only reason Fnatic won was because KRIMZ played amazing and flusha had to pull out godlike plays.
2018-03-12 02:06
Golden in China? That's why they playing FPL now xD
2018-03-12 00:57
sad for golden but not unexpected
2018-03-12 00:57
Nah stop it
2018-03-12 00:57
#78
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Bulgaria Briashand 
Ohhh plese no ...
2018-03-12 00:57
LUL
2018-03-12 00:57
What the Fnatic
2018-03-12 00:58
WTFNATIC
2018-03-12 00:58
#83
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France StickyRice 
I can't wait to see Fnatic fail after replacing their IGL after the most unexpected win of 2018 lul (less expected than C9 victory)
2018-03-12 00:58
+1 i hope they go back to dicksucking
2018-03-12 01:14
Wat
2018-03-12 00:58
#85
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United Kingdom tec9meister 
NO PLEASE FUCK RIGHT OFF
2018-03-12 00:58
this is like a nightmare
2018-03-12 07:07
#86
Friis | 
Canada uhJake 
nice b8 m8 8/8
2018-03-12 00:58
#90
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Sweden dr9ken 
switching to the rival team? gg
2018-03-12 00:58
i still remember xizt's epic round in 1.6 on train where he: --- had an ace --- team killed carn --- 1hp 1v2 clutch
2018-03-12 01:00
#679
BnTeT | 
China Jardeet 
Didn't happen
2018-03-12 10:44
it happened in olden days youtu.be/yi6NQm69E4E
2018-03-12 15:44
Such a crazy round :D
2018-03-12 12:00
#92
f0rest | 
Brunei Peccavi 
As much as nostalgic to see Xizt wearing Fnatic jersey again, I don't see how this benefits over Golden. I mean I constantly see Golden constantly getting decent to great frags on every map but not Xizt. But that's just me.
2018-03-12 00:59
Xizt is a great fragger
2018-03-12 12:00
#93
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Turkey Kumay 
right after winning an event? LOL
2018-03-12 00:59
#95
Nifty | 
Switzerland BetoCrD 
Huh?
2018-03-12 00:59
This makes 0 sense.
2018-03-12 00:59
#100
Dosia | 
Vietnam Oida 
DO FNATIC EVEN HAVE HEARTS?
2018-03-12 00:59
#164
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Portugal RKO23 
really bro , real talk.
2018-03-12 01:07
#101
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Sweden Trkmag 
Yeah wtf
2018-03-12 01:00
#102
s1mple | 
Poland Hell2k 
Wtf is happening
2018-03-12 01:00
actually saying that Golden helped them climb up again. better replace him. is that dumb?
2018-03-12 01:00
#104
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Portugal Joefilas 
Fnatic is anti-muslims confirmed
2018-03-12 01:00
he isn't muslim btw
2018-03-12 01:07
#106
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Japan KasPro 
That's a stupid move
2018-03-12 01:00
Kononowicz Krzysztof
2018-03-12 01:00
xD
2018-03-12 10:19
Hopefully golden finds something good. Godsent?
2018-03-12 01:00
nooo he deserves better
2018-03-12 01:01
like who? godsent is fine since there's no where else to go..
2018-03-12 01:09
faze golden.
2018-03-12 01:25
lets go.
2018-03-12 01:25
FINALLY SOMEONE WHO CAN REPLACE CARRYGUN
2018-03-12 08:37
Rip fnatic
2018-03-12 01:00
#111
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Brazil BuddyINSANE 
WTF? rip IEM Katowice championship! We smart, we loyal, we friendly, we are from BRAZIL! Kreygasm
2018-03-12 01:00
#112
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Finland Ronister 
What... Why...
2018-03-12 01:00
#114
Friis | 
Canada uhJake 
every1 saying this makes sense but maybe the fnatic honeymoon period is over. they relied so hard on those flusha 200iq plays that shouldn't be able to happen again.
2018-03-12 01:01
Yea but even flusha wasn't playing 200 iq they could lose on fucking final. Now they won't even reach fucking final probably 2 years more
2018-03-12 01:11
#340
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United States poyoyo 
+1, without KRIMZ and flusha playing godlike that final wouldn't of been close.
2018-03-12 02:07
#119
fnx | 
Brazil Feio91 
Rip Fnatic
2018-03-12 01:01
#120
FalleN | 
Brazil ToRu 
good move.. but WTF
2018-03-12 01:01
Wtf
2018-03-12 01:01
#124
Snax | 
Poland dailyy 
but why? xizt is a bad igl
2018-03-12 01:01
Golden has been doing good and they just won a bug tournament? Weird if true..
2018-03-12 01:02
#126
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Poland Marcines 
golden>xizt
2018-03-12 01:02
Expected
2018-03-12 01:02
If they do this: 1. They’re idiots 2. NiP would seriously need to think about signing Golden. You could make an argument to cut ReZ, GTR or f0rest in that case.
2018-03-12 01:02
#258
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United States Baitor 
Why would NiP cut any of them for Golden?
2018-03-12 01:29
#259
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Europe V1rus_ 
Forest is playing very bad since last year overall. REZ,Gtr is fine. -forest+Golden ??? If this happen I will a very sad day for whole NIP fan.
2018-03-12 01:29
High?
2018-03-12 02:52
#423
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North America YungRiceG0d 
Tru but Dennis would become the fragger he was meant to be while golden takes lead
2018-03-12 03:04
#598
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Yugoslavia Nap4s7 
There is no need to kick after all GTR and F0rest can IGL becuse they are old players and know how this game work.
2018-03-12 08:40
nip wont do roster changes for atleast 6 months + since they just added dennis
2018-03-12 01:29
true i dont think they will instantly kick gtr or f0rest but if this lineup wont work golden is a great option
2018-03-12 10:02
no just gtr
2018-03-12 01:30
#742
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Italy Div-\ 
I'd cut GTR, he's been underwhelming for some time now...
2018-03-12 12:57
Why??????
2018-03-12 01:02
#131
rain | 
Portugal Cyborgy 
yes!
2018-03-12 01:03
#132
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Brazil digozamaral 
WTF FNATIC??? U STUPID?
2018-03-12 01:03
Wut Why???
2018-03-12 01:03
WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOT Golden much better then Xixt. And the team is used to him, just won IEM Kato.... so stupid if this is real. But I guess NiP is just "leaking" this to stir up trouble in Fnatic.
2018-03-12 01:03
He is good yes. But how is he better then xizt? Just beacuse you like golden more does not magically make him a better player. If you se this realistically then, xizt's rating has been higher then goldens always, not once has that changed. Xizt har far far more experience then golden, obviously he has won countless of tournaments whilest golden won 1. Your personal opinion is not a fact.
2018-03-12 01:17
Xizt has lead NiP to years of medicority, failing to get to majors and he has put up nothing anymore. He is and old, bad leader who doesnt bring fragging nor leading. "what about oakland", one fluke run doesnt correct 1 complete year of shitting arround and being the joke. I couldnt care less about golden, Xizt is just not better, this is not 2012, wake up.
2018-03-12 02:07
Wow all those arguments were totally valid, you really did prove that golden is better. No wait, it just proves you are a retard. Try again maybe. When it comes to frags, he is better. That is a fact, go look it up. Leadership rly? Okey then, golden is such a fantastic leader that they want to replace him after a few months. Xizt 6 years of leading winning coultless tournaments doesent mean shit. Golden has nothing to hes name. He was getting HARD carried to win 1 tournament. Congratulations.
2018-03-12 02:15
they made playoffs at every lan they played except for the last starseries with golden, ultimately winning katowice. fnatic's form improved greatly under golden. under xizts leadership, nip's form gradually decreased until they missed 2 majors.
2018-03-12 04:27
#743
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Italy Div-\ 
+1 I don't see how Xzit is better than golden tbf. And golden is still young so he can improve, while xzit...i don't think so.
2018-03-12 12:59
#344
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United States poyoyo 
True, and its not like Golden had crazy strats, he just did what pronax did and whipped them into shape. If it wasn't for KRIMZ being godlike fnatic wouldn't of come close to the finals and they wouldn't of won if it wasn't for flusha beasting it out. Thats not something you can rely on.
2018-03-12 02:09
#419
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Netherlands EJVN 
Who the fuck cares who is better at fragging. We are talking about an IGLing ability, and sorry to say this ( I can see you are a fan of Xizt), but Xizt as an IGL is pretty shit in my eyes. No innovations at all; just a standard, most boring gamestyle that NiP always had. It actually shocks me that it took so much time for NiP to cut him.
2018-03-12 02:59
#744
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Italy Div-\ 
I only remember xzit's vetoes :v pure shit.
2018-03-12 12:59
#135
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Canada !Maple 
No... Please dont
2018-03-12 01:03
Always having internal issues.
2018-03-12 01:03
#137
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Germany sleezy 
damn thats really tough for golden. i hope he finds a new team, idk about his ingame-leading but his fragging was decent.
2018-03-12 01:03
OMEGALUL
2018-03-12 01:04
#139
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United States OrangeTM 
Why?? Golden is doing fine.
2018-03-12 01:04
Hope it doesnt happen Please fnatic's manager READ THIS THREAD
2018-03-12 01:04
#141
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Brazil vass28 
They were getting better... Who decided that? The players? Coach?
2018-03-12 01:04
RIP FNATIC OMEGALUL katowice was fluke XD
2018-03-12 01:05
xizt is a slightly better version of taz lul
2018-03-12 01:05
#806
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United Kingdom FEodAL 
also debatable
2018-03-12 15:53
Gambit v2
2018-03-12 01:05
Lol that actually fits the situation
2018-03-12 08:27
Fnatic are stupid if they make this move
2018-03-12 01:05
#150
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Australia Raychippy5 
Win tournament, improves over the years > time to change players haha logic!
2018-03-12 01:05
XD
2018-03-12 01:06
What the actual fuck ?
2018-03-12 01:05
#152
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Sweden drakendilf 
WUT, rip golden :( Glad for xizt but Golden deserves better.
2018-03-12 01:05
#154
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Moldova OptimusBlyad 
Rest in peace GoldenBoy :((((( Hope he will still play at the big stages
2018-03-12 01:06
This could be the worst change ever. WHY FNATIC? Golden good IGL
2018-03-12 01:06
Yes he i good. Xizt is better though ;)
2018-03-12 01:07
#345
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United States poyoyo 
+1 :)
2018-03-12 02:09
dafuq xd
2018-03-12 01:06
I dont like fnatic but im so glad xizt stays in sweden to play :D CONGRATS XIZT!
2018-03-12 01:06
are you his girlfriend or boyfriend ?
2018-03-12 06:47
Gay to congratulate someone?
2018-03-12 13:29
nope, nothing wrong about to be a gay. i just really dont understand why someone likes Xizt but whatever.
2018-03-12 13:53
Fan of a player. Me being gay is probably just wishful thinking from your part. Im flattered but i dont go that way so you will have to find someone else.
2018-03-12 16:00
wut? no buddy im straight and i was sarcastic, but please spread your rainbow anyway.
2018-03-12 18:41
Stop kidding yourself buddy, your as gay as they come. Why else would you use gay in every sentence. You are obviously looking for approval, you wont get any here. You will have to go talk gay shit with someone else.
2018-03-12 21:24
holy shit, almost need tl;dr but its was very touching. thanks for share your emotions with us.
2018-03-13 08:17
this move is so retarded lmao i cba
2018-03-12 01:07
wtf they won fucking katowice wtf
2018-03-12 01:07
#168
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Portugal dracø 
They just wanted to win a tournament again. Now that they have done that, they want to go back to having no pressure to do anything. 10/10 move
2018-03-12 01:08
#773
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Netherlands Yak_41M 
yup merch secured, 0 fks given
2018-03-12 14:17
Unexpected
2018-03-12 01:08
XIZT is fucking trash lmfao why
2018-03-12 01:08
much better fragger than golden
2018-03-12 01:11
Not really lol Golden is doing just fine. Theres a reason why xizt got kicked from nip. He couldnt lead the team, despite trying for years and years. he should retire already
2018-03-12 01:12
>Golden LAN-rating Last 3 months >0.91 /close
2018-03-12 01:18
Are you sure? In reality goldens rating has never been above xizt's. So explain to me how he is a better fragger then? I checked the rating between them regularly ever since golden joined fnatic and as i said, golden has ALWAYS had a lower rating. Also, he could not lead the team? He did so for 6 years. Golden done it for a few months and they already change him out. Explain how you are not a retard?
2018-03-12 01:26
Still shit fragger and obviously golden much better igl
2018-03-12 01:13
you don't know anything about how much of a leading impact golden had
2018-03-12 01:14
Yea tell me then
2018-03-12 01:14
I can't tell you. I don't know. But considering they switch him out, he can't be that important. They don't switch out a player to try to get worse.
2018-03-12 01:18
Yea we will se when they win a big trophy like kato again
2018-03-12 01:33
even if they don't, it doesn't mean it was a bad move. SK was bad this tournament and can bounce back at any time, same with faze who should win that bo5 9/10 times
2018-03-12 01:48
xizt is a regular rifle, but IGL overrated like ex6
2018-03-12 01:40
#173
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Indonesia Not_A_Carry 
Golden is doing good i think and this news shocked me like i got zeused by some silver noob
2018-03-12 01:09
#174
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Slovakia bombmeister 
Why? They looked more and more decent, golden was performing and calling good as igl..whats the reason?
2018-03-12 01:09
This has to be the most retardest shit ive read
2018-03-12 01:09
I called it as soon as allu joined that wierd team, I first thought xizt frib allu would make something great but i guess naaaa
2018-03-12 01:10
wTF NO
2018-03-12 01:10
#181
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Norway rogueplayer 
lmaooooo fakin midget
2018-03-12 01:11
GOOD MOVE. They see having golden isn't going to work in the long run.
2018-03-12 01:11
worst roster move in ages
2018-03-12 01:11
#186
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Denmark LUL69xD 
WTF
2018-03-12 01:12
Lol retards
2018-03-12 01:12
#188
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Sweden Donger89 
Holy Fnatic Xizt PogChamp
2018-03-12 01:12
#189
shox | 
France F4KER 
rip fnoobtic
2018-03-12 01:12
#191
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Kazakhstan dc7 
hes still looking for teams to kill
2018-03-12 01:12
#193
zAAz | 
Sweden Jnordz 
dajum boui
2018-03-12 01:13
wtf 1000iq
2018-03-12 01:13
o m g . . .
2018-03-12 01:13
scummy move and I hope fnatic will not win another tourney in 2018
2018-03-12 01:13
WTFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF FNATIC DONT PLS GOLDEN GOOD IGL
2018-03-12 01:13
What??
2018-03-12 01:13
I can see Fnatic never wining tournament again.
2018-03-12 01:15
People forget that fnatics latest win came 95% because of flusha hitting his old form and krimz being a monster. Sure I would maybe consider cut JW first. But remember this is the team that went out 3-0 against teams like tyloo...
2018-03-12 01:15
#745
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Italy Div-\ 
But they made the playoffs of every tournament before starseries... And they lost to tough opponents in every playoff they made, so to me fnatic with golden wasn't an unsuccessful team.
2018-03-12 13:02
I agree with them not being unsuccessful team. But at the same time I do not think they would become much better. If xizt focuses more on his individual skills I think fnatic has a greater potential with him.
2018-03-13 23:34
top 1-
2018-03-12 01:16
wtf?! OMEGALUL
2018-03-12 01:16
#209
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France Deadfish 
fnatic stronger than before.
2018-03-12 01:16
#210
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France StickyRice 
Flickshot article seems to say it's because of "an outside of the game problem". (Le problème évoqué concernant un aspect en dehors du jeu.)
2018-03-12 01:17
wins IEM and makes roster change immediately. Makes so much sense lul
2018-03-12 01:17
Big downgrade...xist was trash last few years
2018-03-12 01:17
#213
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Brazil gorokun 
this makes no sense
2018-03-12 01:17
I like Golden a lot, seems like a nice guy and a good igl. But imo this is a great move, will make them stronger
2018-03-12 01:17
who
2018-03-12 01:17
fnatics success has come from the resurgence of flusha and krimz, and lekr0 becoming a stable third "star", not from superb igling. While I can agree that picking up washed up Xizt seems like a big gamble, people are seriously overrating goldens impact.
2018-03-12 01:17
Krimz praised him during a recent interview that he elevated their team to the top and brought them structure so denying it now is stupid
2018-03-12 02:10
#523
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Pakistan MeMeMeisteR2 
Yeah and what about when they had olod and dennis , much better players than lekro? :D dude u cant do everything with skill alone
2018-03-12 06:41
I totally agree but I think Xizt is not washed up. get right-freiberg-xizt-f0rest played together for such a long time, i think none of them is washed up. they just need change... people are saying f0rest is shit too.. even when f0rest plays like shit he's still better than %70 of the pro players in top 15 teams. i think the same about Xizt too
2018-03-12 10:44
I hope Fnatic wins WESG with Golden too now
2018-03-12 01:17
#776
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Netherlands Yak_41M 
+1 they still gonna screw him tho, at least he will get a better contract/team if they win
2018-03-12 14:19
+ A LOT OF CASH lol I really like Golden doe, will be really sad if he goes.
2018-03-12 15:06
#802
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Netherlands Yak_41M 
yup he actually brought enough cohesion to finally win something
2018-03-12 15:39
WTFFFFF
2018-03-12 01:18
#222
Thorin | 
United Kingdom Weldo 
Makes 0 sense
2018-03-12 01:19
#223
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Denmark oskarsports 
They just won katowice tf
2018-03-12 01:20
maybe the team didnt like golden, but this seems stupid imo. he was removed from nip for a reason.
2018-03-12 01:20
#746
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Italy Div-\ 
+1 Nip literally cut xzit because he wasn't bringing anything to the team, to pick up dennis which well...dislikes being the IGL, but yet the nip guys thought he was a better choice than continuing with xzit.
2018-03-12 13:04
#225
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Canada rdss 
lets go boysssssssss
2018-03-12 01:20
#227
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Sweden Tunggren 
HYPE!!!!!!!
2018-03-12 01:20
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
2018-03-12 01:21
#229
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Europe n0rbii 
fooking idiots
2018-03-12 01:21
#231
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United States Plactus 
So fnatic wins a huge event and they immediately change the igl? 10 iq plays
2018-03-12 01:21
Not only did Fnatic become way better and more consistent after signed Golden ( many top 4's losing to mainly FAZE ) but they just won a Major Lan because of Golden's tactics and adaptations. I don't understand how they could backstab that guy like that..... i will not support Fnatic if that is true. Maybe if they did badly at the next major but right after Katowice, what a dick move, piss off.
2018-03-12 01:23
nobody cares muslimlover
2018-03-12 03:32
But golden is Christian Nt brainless Canadian SK fan
2018-03-12 10:37
golded fanoboys stfu he was shit
2018-03-12 01:24
#241
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Netherlands Funtobedavid 
Thats because he was the igl
2018-03-12 01:25
but one good thing about golden he was thirsty for wins xzist is old. Thats it.
2018-03-12 01:26
smart move, they only won because flusha carried hard... golden was -1 and Xizt is way better fragger
2018-03-12 01:25
#237
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Netherlands Funtobedavid 
What the fuck?
2018-03-12 01:25
#238
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Netherlands !napz 
I say don't try to fix something that isn't (all that) broken
2018-03-12 01:25
FNATIC zero IQ - BOT + BOT OMEGALUL fnatic fans > HYPE FROM tier 2 TO TIER 3 PogChamp XDD
2018-03-12 01:25
#247
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China NA_LUL 
golden is getting deported back to syria soon
2018-03-12 01:27
He is not muslim and i think he was born in Sweden
2018-03-12 01:42
#314
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China NA_LUL 
baited
2018-03-12 01:48
fnatic "twofaced" toledo
2018-03-12 01:27
XDDD
2018-03-12 01:31
#253
str | 
Denmark SMOrc 
This was more stressful to read than Zeus leaving Gambit back to the sinking boat called NaVi. Just why? Xizt is far past his prime and Golden could only develop further. Downgrade , on paper, at least.
2018-03-12 01:29
#254
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Brunei FeelsHoodMan 
this makes no sense
2018-03-12 01:28
xizt back to his roots... fnatic.MSi
2018-03-12 01:28
#257
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Brazil Collee 
would be the dumbest move in csgo history
2018-03-12 01:29
Its not confirmed but... WTF UNEXPECTED, Its a mistake, rip fnatic and golden :(
2018-03-12 01:30
;o LOL
2018-03-12 01:31
lol
2018-03-12 01:31
what a fucking joke worst roster move this year so far
2018-03-12 01:32
#277
fer | 
Brazil cyrax12 
ez
2018-03-12 01:33
#278
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Sweden crindz 
I think golden has done a good job, it seems weird to replace him now when they've just won IEM (which was huge!)
2018-03-12 01:34
#282
f0rest | 
Argentina GZ^ 
GL Richard
2018-03-12 01:35
Like in old days
2018-03-12 01:36
wtf
2018-03-12 01:37
This is a surprise ;o. Good luck <3
2018-03-12 01:38
#294
fer | 
Brazil Nickzim 
- Just won the first major tournament in 2 years - Replace the IGL Fuck logic
2018-03-12 01:38
#296
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Brazil vinnyzeraNTC 
?????????? what
2018-03-12 01:38
if they do it then they are retards
2018-03-12 01:39
lol fnatic not that stupid..mayb jumpy who made some important call @ katowice..
2018-03-12 01:41
LOL
2018-03-12 01:42
If fnatic do this, then FaZe has to sign Ex6TenZ as well lul...
2018-03-12 01:43
What a retarded move
2018-03-12 01:45
sad and disrespectful. kicking an awesome guy and a good player such as golden who did so much for fnatic just because xizt might be a little bit better, if even that! lol...
2018-03-12 01:46
at what? bottomfragging?
2018-03-12 01:58
Golden was too short for the alpha males in Fnatic, they had to change him out
2018-03-12 01:47
too short for 1.60 Flusha
2018-03-12 01:58
#609
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Azerbaijan Talley 
lol but they're bringing xizt in.
2018-03-12 09:03
that was actually really expected idk what all the fuss is about, Xizt is the best IGL sweden is ever gonna have
2018-03-12 01:49
I take the bait, xizt was never a Good IGL , fifflaren was far superior.
2018-03-12 13:50
#317
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United States pieceofpi 
this is perhaps the dumbest move of 2018 so far
2018-03-12 01:49
#318
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China NA_LUL 
fnatic only keeps fat players they kicked olof, dennis, now golden, xizt is next
2018-03-12 01:49
Lmao
2018-03-12 02:08
lol nicee
2018-03-12 01:52
wut
2018-03-12 01:55
#321
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Argentina roulettesoad 
nice discrimination because golden is 1,50?? lost all respect for fnatic
2018-03-12 01:55
top1
2018-03-12 01:57
this looks 10X worse cuz hes from a different background... too. My lord, Fnatic stock just went down the shitter
2018-03-12 01:57
#327
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Argentina GonzaPines 
rip fnatic
2018-03-12 01:59
Damn son ! You got it
2018-03-12 02:00
#329
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Argentina ZaraLarsson 
who cares about LULNATIC, i want news about ex-100 thieves, A.K.A Não tem Como A.K.A SK Gaming A.K.A Top1 team in the world A.K.A Finalist of the Major
2018-03-12 02:01
A.K.A MDL ShitSquad
2018-03-12 02:26
why would you sign a washed up IGL like xizt, there's a reason why he got kicked from nip
2018-03-12 02:01
100 % agree, xizt is more washed up than than any dirty shirt i have washed
2018-03-12 02:13
#332
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Portugal tiagofrosty 
wtf? they just won with Golden dudeeee
2018-03-12 02:04
must be internal issues because there is no fucking way xist is the better player they must have some grand scheme us mortals cannot comprehend
2018-03-12 02:04
probly huge internal falling out between JW/Flusha and Golden, which is sad because that team was looking good
2018-03-12 02:11
It could be that a lot of fnatics strats were prepared and came from coaches and management, and golden really had very little value as a leader Its sad to hear as this was his big break and I feel like its probably more personal issues than anything else
2018-03-12 02:13
Definitely not that because Krimz said in an interview that Golden elevated them to the top with his " fresh IGLing " and calling. Its definitely something completley unrelated to the CS
2018-03-12 02:14
thanks for the info poor golden
2018-03-12 02:15
#334
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Germany Merkelistan 
1. Be Fnatic 2. Win a big tournament 3. Change your igl for a washed up noob
2018-03-12 02:05
>washed up >noob Conflicting to say the least
2018-03-12 02:25
#337
rain | 
Bolivia Natusch 
ok wtf
2018-03-12 02:06
Everyone before the ONE tournament win: "OMG KICK GOLDEN AND REPLACE HIM WITH XIZT WTFFF" Now: "WTTTTFFF WHY DO THEY FUCKING REPLACE GOLDEN HE IS THE BEST IN-GAME LEADER"
2018-03-12 02:06
+1
2018-03-12 02:40
#441
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United States gtmaniacmda 
I think it more like "wow, Golden did something good... so why replace him with a BOT?"
2018-03-12 03:40
WATTTTTTTTTTTTT UNEXPECTED AS FUCKKKK
2018-03-12 02:08
Golden to replace karrigan lol
2018-03-12 02:10
#350
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United States Jkhes 
Omg nip need golden now, but it makes no sense
2018-03-12 02:11
#351
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Germany PnALynx 
This would be such a shame for him. I don‘t see any reason to kick him but to be fair, who knows what‘s going on internally
2018-03-12 02:11
#359
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Brazil aAlem 
WHY? ONLY WHY
2018-03-12 02:16
#360
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Turkmenistan HanselCSGod 
This better be a joke, Golden is 10x better than Xizt will ever be. Might as well take in Friberg as well go full bot team retards.
2018-03-12 02:17
golden is a bot what are u saying
2018-03-12 04:37
#817
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Turkmenistan HanselCSGod 
Xizt is a bot as well and a shit IGL what's your point? I rather have a bot who has strats and tactics, than a bot who doesn't. Also this isn't an upgrade if it happens, Xizt is a terrible player, it's a pure downgrade no matter how you look at it.
2018-03-12 16:23
No no no.
2018-03-12 02:19
clips.twitch.tv/PolishedProtectiveShallo.. Nice job JW, great guy Without that " Midget " you would be stuck in tier 3 online leagues. Als Krimz and Flusha carried his sorry ass
2018-03-12 02:20
#368
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Denmark beastd 
+100
2018-03-12 02:22
#367
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Kazakhstan ezBORAT 
O M E G A L U L M E G A clips.twitch.tv/AnnoyingGrossSaladGivePL.. L U L
2018-03-12 02:23
#369
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Denmark beastd 
NOOOO wtf nooooo dont take trash NIP players
2018-03-12 02:22
#370
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Yugoslavia niofalpha 
wtf
2018-03-12 02:24
Fnatic "TwoFaced" Toledo
2018-03-12 02:24
#446
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India bozzmob 
Ha ha :D good onee.
2018-03-12 03:45
What the fuck. This is so ridiculous, ungrateful fucks. They literally said Golden was doing a great job at leading before, and they just won a huge tournament with him. Shame on them.
2018-03-12 02:25
Xizt will make this team easily top 3 in the world and will probably win them the next Major: hltv.org/stats/players/events/884/Xizt
2018-03-12 02:25
poor boy golden -played at a weak team -proves himself in this weak team, gets promoted -the harder role is left for him -he turned out to be a good igl, his new team wins a big tournament -he gets kicked. Sad History Tbh
2018-03-12 02:26
+1
2018-03-12 02:34
sad +1
2018-03-12 02:36
i agree and i hope fnatic will do worse then ever, ungrateful cunts
2018-03-12 02:47
what a joke, xizt has always been an average leader, his team mates carried him and made him look like he was great caller
2018-03-12 02:28
he is like NBK or Shox igl, puggy similar playstyle that doesn't work after it gets figured out. He was below average fragger and hes old too. Idk what to say
2018-03-12 02:30
Also now -karrigan +golden ez close out finals
2018-03-12 02:28
xizt 0.98 rated 2017 hltv 2.0 rating when 1.06 is average rating and people talk about more firepower smh
2018-03-12 02:28
Remove Xizt from the IGL Position and his Ratings will improve drastically. You guys are Newfags you have no Idea how good Xizt actually is
2018-03-12 03:04
newfag? xizt was never a heavy fragger in csgo LMAO
2018-03-12 03:47
#531
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Germany aimetti^ 
2013? 2014?
2018-03-12 06:51
#383
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Brazil Gunzel 
but why
2018-03-12 02:30
cuz hes a short Muslim and JW needs someone to bully first it was no handshakes, then call ropz a cheater now bully Muslim GOlden racist cunt JW
2018-03-12 02:33
#397
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Lithuania YungDavid 
so if jw needs someone to bully, why would he kick him then? OMEGALUL
2018-03-12 02:42
#386
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Poland Kobel_ 
Why tho
2018-03-12 02:33
1 step forward, 2 steps back.
2018-03-12 02:35
more like 1 step back, 2 steps back
2018-03-12 04:49
#392
REZ | 
Russia hamzikwf 
wtf
2018-03-12 02:36
ggwp fnatic, jW is the only one who should've been kicked.
2018-03-12 02:37
#396
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Lithuania YungDavid 
HZAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHA
2018-03-12 02:42
#398
fl0m | 
United States C0lumbo 
so stupid
2018-03-12 02:43
not fair seriously, im hating fnatic now. Golden was doing good, and he bring fnatic come back to look strong again. Not chering for them for sure. I dont think Golden was doing bad, thats why i would never again respect u fnatic
2018-03-12 02:46
#427
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United States DivoteLmao 
INTERNAL ISSUES LMAO
2018-03-12 03:11
haha
2018-03-12 03:28
#401
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Australia aucs 
lmao
2018-03-12 02:46
for first time i liked fnatic, and they do this. Congratz, u will fail now karma is bitch
2018-03-12 02:49
shame, Golden seemed to be improving quite a bit recently gl to golden and xizt
2018-03-12 02:49
ez top3
2018-03-12 02:51
well he even get his share from iem katowice lmao
2018-03-12 02:52
#416
flusha | 
Yugoslavia mrmojo 
Hope it's not true
2018-03-12 02:53
If you guys read the flickshot report, it says that there's a problem outside the game. Similar to sk kicking fnx
2018-03-12 02:57
i dont like this hacking piece of shit team but Xizt ist an Amazingly good Player... Only Idiots dont see that. Its his IGL Position that makes him look weak.
2018-03-12 03:02
sad :(
2018-03-12 03:04
Gabriell "fnatic two face" Toiletto
2018-03-12 03:11
#430
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United States Venom_ 
poor golden so much talent wasted
2018-03-12 03:19
even they won a big tournament like katowice, still think that xizt its better than golden. yes golden its good, great, igl decent, fragger decent, but xizt more experience and better player overall. golden deserves a good team also, fnatic its a little too much for him, even he won a big tournament, just because some lucky clutches and crazy matches from krimz and flusha. undeserved for golden, congrats to him, but fnatic a hat to big right now... xizt > golden anyday of the week. gl golden and gl xizt in future... also i really think +golden was a temporary move like when a better igl would pe available... and unfortunately for golden it happened.. early. i dont think golden was a permanent basics for fnatic as a solution! the right choice to make for fnatic! gl.... LE: imo fnatic played with less strats in katowice, more individual plays and gamesense/experience, not so much from golden tactics... fnatic played their game,,, like flusha did clutch 2v5... it wasnt golden, it was fnatic magic, anyway he deserves a good team, but not fnatic!
2018-03-12 03:22
Xizt is not better than golden, more experienced yes, but thats it, remember when people said that friberg was the reason of nip failure, well he wasn't, at least not alone, xizt was shit too. Fnatic with golden was just getting started, fnatic will be now the new shitty nip from 2017. Btw golden>xizt anyday
2018-03-12 04:41
#755
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Turkey loutz 
+1
2018-03-12 13:35
this is good. golden didnt preform well in IEM. without flusha krimz and jw clutches and insane individual skill they wont win the IEM in golden strats.
2018-03-12 03:20
#516
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Pakistan MeMeMeisteR2 
They had amazing strats , and golden clearly showed a rise in his skill frok the major to katowice and is improving at a fast rate
2018-03-12 06:30
golden has basic strats bro. almost half of the rounds won by clutches of flusha and krimz. 1v5 , 1v3 , 1v 4
2018-03-13 06:02
#912
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Pakistan MeMeMeisteR2 
Rewatch the game then come back
2018-03-13 11:38
Xizt top 6 literally of swe, stfu..
2018-03-12 03:27
But but Top 5 is flusha lekro jw krimz and golden
2018-03-12 03:45
:DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 0 zet etc. sisterly forest gtr etc. jesus who is js lekro flusha cs go noname players? okay wp
2018-03-12 09:21
#666
??? | 
Austria L1GHT_ 
go play 1.6 old fuck
2018-03-12 10:34
go play go old fuck
2018-03-12 10:34
Well that was a very easy bait
2018-03-12 18:57
#437
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Malaysia ShukCS 
NotLikeThis You pick up xizt and kick fnatic best IGL What the hell is wrong with this line up smh...
2018-03-12 03:33
OMG RIP FNATIC
2018-03-12 03:37
#439
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Poland dreamShow 
NO FUCKING WAY YOU GONNA DO THIS. FNATIC PLZ
2018-03-12 03:38
#440
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United States gtmaniacmda 
FAZE.GOLDEN OMEGALUL
2018-03-12 03:38
#442
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Canada Helixoss 
RIP FNATIC LMAO
2018-03-12 03:40
they just won katowice why kick him
2018-03-12 03:41
I don't kurwa know what I supposed to write.
2018-03-12 03:42
FeelBadGolden :(
2018-03-12 03:43
flusha back to igling xD
2018-03-12 03:55
I feel bad for Golden
2018-03-12 03:56
#456
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United States SupremeBeast 
Golden is way better than Xist in every single way. Golden led fnatic to win Katowice against Faze, the number one team in the world, twice, and he is getting kicked. Fnatic wouldn't take in Dennis, but they want Xist? Dennis>>>Xist. Why fnatic. Please stay as you are right now. You don't need a roster change. You guys are one of the best teams in the world every since CSGO released and you guys are continuing it with the help of Golden's fragging, great calls, and being friendly overall. He proved himself worthy and he should stay on Fnatic.
2018-03-12 04:00
There must have been a good reason for it, I presume. But yeah, its really sad for the fnatic fans :((
2018-03-12 04:09
WTF WHY FNATIC
2018-03-12 04:01
Golden good cap... God rifler..
2018-03-12 04:01
what a bad move
2018-03-12 04:02
Xizt in 2k18 LUL
2018-03-12 04:04
#482
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Romania Splaxinho 
Cry baby he's the best
2018-03-12 04:44
no
2018-03-12 04:55
#792
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Europe Vallon 
tarik, phaha. Shittiest IGL in the scene atm.
2018-03-12 14:56
I dont like tarik as igl i like seang@res as igl
2018-03-12 22:02
#462
s1mple | 
Iceland cy_ro 
fnatic org lost all my respect
2018-03-12 04:04
#463
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Philippines fnatic2012 
better keep golden than replacing him
2018-03-12 04:07
Fnatic "two faced" toledo
2018-03-12 04:12
#467
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Brazil SK_Top_One 
wtf RIP Fnatic
2018-03-12 04:12
Deserved
2018-03-12 04:26
@Fnatic, win major, kick IGL, wakakaka, respect!
2018-03-12 04:27
They could replace golden, yeah why not, but put xizt instead? That's just retarded.
2018-03-12 04:28
#474
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Bulgaria bUHALOVIC 
4D CHESS
2018-03-12 04:33
#483
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Switzerland sovereiign 
nt alex jones
2018-03-12 04:48
Are some of you people really stupid enough to think they decided this after they won IEM?
2018-03-12 04:33
Why
2018-03-12 04:36
#479
NiKo | 
India Sishir 
Idk how things will be ;__;
2018-03-12 04:39
#480
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Canada gritabit 
RIP fnatic This roster change was probably discussed after StarSeries, but I'm surprised the org went through with the roster swap after Katowice Expecting fnatic to mess up map vetos in every BO3 series EDIT: Internal issues seem to be a big problem this year? VP, North, G2, Navi (probably after s1mple/flamie leave WESG teams), Astralis (Sorta), SK (Or so they claim to have internal issues right now), and now fnatic.
2018-03-12 04:44
I cant stand xizt, and this really sucks for golden. He helped turn the team around and now they kick him to the curb...
2018-03-12 04:48
#486
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Russia Nikosimus 
Wtf..? I hope it's not true No way Fnatic, whyyy?
2018-03-12 04:50
#487
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World burakSS 
Onfg expected.
2018-03-12 04:54
WTF ? lul Feels bad for Golden, he seems a nice guy
2018-03-12 04:56
1 word. why?
2018-03-12 05:01
#491
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Turkey kadirb 
lul wtf? Rip
2018-03-12 05:01
- deadweight + deadweight gg fnatec
2018-03-12 05:08
Golden twist Brollan PlesseN freddieb
2018-03-12 05:20
Is that 2009? xD
2018-03-12 05:22
#496
fnx | 
Portugal lovessd 
wtf
2018-03-12 05:23
fnatic dont want to win anymore
2018-03-12 05:23
#498
cadiaN | 
Belarus MIZ1AN 
wHy not pronax?
2018-03-12 05:24
#894
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United Kingdom dezmondo 
lmfao
2018-03-12 23:03
look I was no fan of that golden guy but this will ALMOST CERTAINLY make fnatic worse.
2018-03-12 05:28
#500
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Turkey Yarrak 
wtf
2018-03-12 05:30
-Golden +friberg That’s much better I think 💭
2018-03-12 05:41
#502
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Ukraine minemax 
wtf??
2018-03-12 05:52
I mean why not? I think it can work tbh. Xizt is kinda underrated by the community IMO.
2018-03-12 05:55
#651
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Ukraine ksay 
THREAT underrated xizt overrated
2018-03-12 10:10
#504
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France kennySsSsS 
wtf??? why??? they just won a tournament after 2 years and want to CHANGE A PLAYER???????
2018-03-12 05:56
Xizt has won an iem. Golden has one iem. They want that grand slam iem knowledge. Mixing up the iem strats for the next one. Keeping it fresh. They just want the grand slam. Don't want anyone anti stratting golden so they're taking xizt for the next one
2018-03-12 06:09
Being serious I have no clue why apart from Flusha and JW are bodyshamed cos he's so small and skinny
2018-03-12 06:06
#509
es3tag | 
Denmark megz 
Pretty exspected. Im pretty sure this process started after kiev. Flusha even stated in an interview that They needed a break from eachother after the 0-3 exit, clearly indicating that not everything was working within the team. Tbh i dont Think They exspected to do good in Katowice, and let's be honest, they wouldn't have won without that insane performance by flusha
2018-03-12 06:13
Not praising GOLDN. BANNED. Jokes aside I've no idea why people praise him so much.
2018-03-12 07:34
Rip golden
2018-03-12 06:13
??wtf
2018-03-12 06:16
I would rather see replaced by him lekro
2018-03-12 06:18
#513
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Brazil hugoooo 
I doubt fnatic would be dumb enough to make a change right after their best performance in two years.
2018-03-12 06:20
#514
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Pakistan MeMeMeisteR2 
This is fucking retarded and heart breaking. Why the fuck would they replace their igl who made them relevant again , took them to the playoffs of 90% of the events they played , brought the team to top 5 and won them a fucking premier event after 2 fucking years and its just the beginning and he is still improving at an extremely fast rate. On top of that , they are replacing him with someone as washed up as xizt? Even dennis wouldve been a better choice idk what fnatic is smoking but this doesnt make sense , it wouldve if they had done it after starseries. Its not that they won with individual skill alone , golden had some really smart tactics especially his setups on ct on mirage and inferno and his t side rounds generally were so good its not easy to pick 8 t rounds in a row against faze on their best (and one of fnatic's worst) maps , overpass. I hope this news is fake , because if it isnt then fnatic will surely regret this and will surely be back to top 15 :(
2018-03-12 06:22
#529
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Romania Splaxinho 
FNATIC TOP 1 NIP TOP 1 RUNSWEDEN
2018-03-12 06:49
#515
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Brazil davidzor 
What a joke if they are going to do this. Golden was playing really well at IEM.
2018-03-12 06:29
They r after sk spoiling a good team
2018-03-12 06:33
wtf hahahahah
2018-03-12 06:35
POGGERS
2018-03-12 06:35
#520
Turkey B^S 
Lol wtf are you doing?
2018-03-12 06:35
LOL WTF WHY AHAHA
2018-03-12 06:39
#522
KRIMZ | 
Slovakia jurrte 
expected
2018-03-12 06:39
Yay
2018-03-12 06:42
Hahaha hah next betrayal
2018-03-12 06:51
LOL doesn't make any sense,they've just done won a tournament.Xizt was never great as an igl,he doesn't add a lot of firepower either,he is the kinda person that has an amazing match once in a while,but otherwise is just shit. This is really stupid tbh
2018-03-12 06:54
Pls fake
2018-03-12 06:57
Xizt's 200iq move to have fresh major stickers
2018-03-12 06:57
Win major after 2 years - kick your IGL XDDD
2018-03-12 07:00
Not sure if serious, but Katowice was not a major.
2018-03-12 07:28
okay *big tournament then
2018-03-12 20:24
#543
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Austria gex0r 
this would be suicide. if fnatic does this i really lost all respect for them :D
2018-03-12 07:09
#546
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Germany ConAction 
wtf
2018-03-12 07:16
FUCKIN NICE!
2018-03-12 07:17
are you kidding me fnatic? WTF
2018-03-12 07:17
WHY? IT TOOK THEM 2 YEARS TO FINALLY FIND A SOLUTION AND THEY FUCK IT UP LIKE TARDS
2018-03-12 07:17
worst move ever. golden did fucking great. carried the team back to the top.
2018-03-12 07:22
Carried is a bit of an overstatement. KRiMZ became a god again, while flusha, lekr0 and JW started to step up from time to time.
2018-03-12 07:28
don't think they wouldve been capable to do so without golden's leadership. Most of them hadn't been playing well up until the Golden addition, but we'll see if their form continues under xizt.
2018-03-16 09:57
That might just be the case, I guess we'll never know. But if the rumor is true, it's probably safe to say that the players don't feel like they need Golden to keep their game on the same level.
2018-03-16 10:25
Might be another reason too. Perhaps they don't like him outside of the game.
2018-03-16 17:29
#553
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Germany unsalted 
Fnatic "Twofaced" Toledo
2018-03-12 07:26
lul
2018-03-12 07:43
this looks so stupid, but it would be the best move for Xizt
2018-03-12 07:31
#559
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Sweden Nuggeet 
Lost all respect i had for Fnatic
2018-03-12 07:37
#561
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Sweden Nuggeet 
But now when i think after, i watched lekr0 stream and suddenly he says "sorry i have to close the stream i have to do something with the team" so they were probably talking about the move
2018-03-12 07:39
rip
2018-03-12 07:39
#562
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Brazil kaiohx 
wtf
2018-03-12 07:43
#565
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Hungary lemusz 
goood move say NO to svedistans
2018-03-12 07:48
WHAT TGHE FUCK
2018-03-12 07:53
#567
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Sweden ThorinEk 
Only possible cause is Golden criminal.
2018-03-12 07:54
#569
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Latvia Ke]R[4u 
DONT DO IT
2018-03-12 07:55
This move can mean only one thing: Faze are gonna replace Karrigan with Golden. It's too obvious that Golden is way better comparing to Karrigan, he is younger and still has a huge potential to growth. By that move Faze is gonna make two things: improve the team and open the Turkish market for themselves. Wise decision!
2018-03-12 07:57
I love how people always draw conclusions about shit they know nothing about, if this swap happens theres probably a solid reason for it
2018-03-12 07:58
Finally someone with brain...damn it.
2018-03-12 08:19
+1
2018-03-12 10:10
holy fuck this is for sure sickest lineup good luck and <3 fnatic
2018-03-12 08:02
#574
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Finland jUPPE! 
WTF, They just won a big tournament.
2018-03-12 08:04
#671
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Sweden undie 
yea they did and it wasnt goldens doing, it was krimz and flusha that played out of their minds that tournament
2018-03-12 10:39
Well, there goes fnatic again
2018-03-12 08:05
#576
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Hungary HunDaniel 
lul
2018-03-12 08:07
Many people actually liked fnatic for couple of weeks and flusha be like "i hate to be liked, let's do some shit move".
2018-03-12 08:08
uhmmmmmmmmm why tho
2018-03-12 08:10
Finally this bot leave this team
2018-03-12 08:12
#855
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Israel TheLoveGuy 
bot ? man he is the igl and his igl skills are way more better than xizt's skills
2018-03-12 19:22
#580
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Russia griskarD 
Not bad
2018-03-12 08:14
#581
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Faroe Islands KARJALA 
Ultra downgrade
2018-03-12 08:14
This is a good start to make your team trash tier again.
2018-03-12 08:16
#583
mixwell | 
Spain Alser 
Wtf not this shit again, fnatic why
2018-03-12 08:17
#585
flusha | 
Germany sanos 
xizt XDDDDDD rip fnatic
2018-03-12 08:21
#586
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Poland pathology 
XDDDDD Re u kidding me?!
2018-03-12 08:22
#587
JORDAN | 
Jordan LBJ 
Picking kicked player from tier3 team lul Error 404 swedish brain not found.
2018-03-12 08:25
#588
KRIMZ | 
Indonesia Anklun 
WTF? HALLO??
2018-03-12 08:25
LuL gg bad move
2018-03-12 08:26
#591
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Canada dorythecat 
-karrigan +xizt
2018-03-12 08:28
Wow.
2018-03-12 08:31
#593
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Malaysia Brad_Bait 
Worst move since Fnatic/Godsent shuffle?
2018-03-12 08:34
#594
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United States Tic0 
So you win a big tournament and then look to change your igl?!? Lol ok Fnatic
2018-03-12 08:35
#674
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Sweden undie 
yea they did and it wasnt goldens doing, it was krimz and flusha that played out of their minds that tournament
2018-03-12 10:40
POGCHAMP
2018-03-12 08:43
#602
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New Zealand JK_77 
why
2018-03-12 08:47
#603
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United Kingdom dv-_- 
Bad decision, they've looked solid with Golden, and he has potential to improve whereas I don't see that from Xizt anymore :(
2018-03-12 08:48
OMEGALUL
2018-03-12 08:48
Golden is not a best player (as a lider it's hard to focus)... but i guess that he renewed fnatic... No reason to change him.
2018-03-12 08:57
#610
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CIS sergioff 
Golden LUL
2018-03-12 09:03
#611
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Australia Roflko 
....waht
2018-03-12 09:05
lol :D
2018-03-12 09:05
#613
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Sweden bag0fdicks 
For all we know golden stabbed flusha in the butthole with a stolen cheese or something, therefore the kick was deserved. And maybe Xizt is a good fit for fnatic. Stop being so fucking naive kids.
2018-03-12 09:07
#615
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Finland Kurppa 
It's that feeling when you start to like a character in a movie or series, and they just get removed.
2018-03-12 09:13
#616
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Brazil cadik 
EZ TOP2 (SK TOP1) fuck NiP "TwoFaced" Toledo
2018-03-12 09:15
There goes fnatic, back to t2
2018-03-12 09:20
time to bring f0rest and getright back
2018-03-12 09:22
#620
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United States b7a 
Um, right after winning a tournament? You okay, fnatic? For real though, Golden has been picking up the pace as of late. Such poor timing on their part.
2018-03-12 09:23
Gg rip fnatic
2018-03-12 09:34
#627
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Brazil PropsY 
Huge mistake
2018-03-12 09:34
#628
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Europe tweekzter 
Lost all respect 4 fnatic, if this is true...
2018-03-12 09:34
Wtf golden>xist I f this happens, I can't wait to see fnatic crashing down the ranks.
2018-03-12 09:34
Lol, if this happens than watching a NiP vs fnatic match will be really interesting xD
2018-03-12 09:35
This has to be one of the most retarded roster changes if it happens... it's not really because they won't have success but Golden needs to stay since he made fnatic a good team again and now they want to kick him to bring a player who was kicked from NiP. Hope it doesn't happen
2018-03-12 09:36
Well if things go bad behind the scenes and obviously Golden is involved, fnatic would eventually crumble then
2018-03-12 10:38
#633
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Slovakia Legeden 
if they want to suck as a team again, sure go ahead fnatic ... back to trash Golden to Faze might be a thing then lel
2018-03-12 09:39
#635
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Kazakhstan tomik0 
WTF THEY JUST STABBED HIM IN THE BACK POUR GOLDEN BOY
2018-03-12 09:39
#636
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Germany Constikdw 
Rip my boys Fnatic... pls don’t do it
2018-03-12 09:40
#638
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Finland ginbay 
"Once again"??? Btw ripperinos OGL NiP
2018-03-12 09:41
bye hav a gud time -Golden
2018-03-12 09:42
#641
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France TROIIDA 
Big things
2018-03-12 09:42
i told you xizt go to fnatic
2018-03-12 09:44
#643
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Indonesia BaybyJ 
At least give GOLDEN chance 1 more tournament to prove himself, because they already win a thing with him... 😐
2018-03-12 09:48
+1 fk Golden
2018-03-12 09:49
#645
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Kazakhstan tomik0 
I still hoping that is fake have checked all fnatic tweets but nothing about replacement
2018-03-12 09:52
#647
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Egypt Tywin 
Out of all the fucking players in the world they pick xizt. XIZT for crying out loud. Why the fuck did they trade dennis to nip in this case.
2018-03-12 10:06
rip golden
2018-03-12 10:07
#649
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Netherlands davin 
whyyy i liked golden
2018-03-12 10:08
#653
Xizt | 
Sweden smackeB 
unexpected
2018-03-12 10:11
#657
France yvo 
I don't get it ???
2018-03-12 10:21
This would make me really happy :)
2018-03-12 10:27
0 iq Roster move Golden was the new Pronax.....
2018-03-12 10:27
How sick would it be if this is fake and fnatic was actually signing pronax as coach?
2018-03-12 10:39
#663
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Bulgaria v35 
yikes
2018-03-12 10:31
wtf? this is best lineup forr fnatic,after 2015
2018-03-12 10:35
Won IEM and kicked golden lul
2018-03-12 10:39
#676
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Sweden undie 
it was krims and flusha that made this happen for fnatic not golden
2018-03-12 10:42
Golden was a ballast, fnatic won Katowice only because of the individual game, and not from the strategies.
2018-03-12 10:40
Look at HLTV being HLTV again. You guys probably forgot this line: "not all is well within the team outside the game" If that is to be the case, with Golden being the target of replacement, it obviously means Golden is the subject of whatever bad is happening behind the scenes or it revolves around him. Then, if we are to consider that this is a bad issue (why would fnatic replace him given that they won tournaments with him recently anyway), and fnatic would NOT replace him, then fnatic will EVENTUALLY crumble, probably even faster if they would let him stay. Maikelele in NiP wasn't replaced just because of nothing even though they won tournaments with him. Remember why was fnx replaced when SK were already having a good run anyway. Freaking read between the lines, you people
2018-03-12 10:44
#682
JW | 
Norway LokeNnNnN 
New Godsent Twist Golden Hampus Brollan Znajder
2018-03-12 10:50
Golden and hampus Yea makes so much sense
2018-03-12 20:47
#907
JW | 
Norway LokeNnNnN 
About as sensible as Hampus and freddieb tbh
2018-03-13 08:15
Why The fokk
2018-03-12 10:58
wtf, golden is 10x better than this washed up bot -.-
2018-03-12 10:59
#706
XeqtR | 
Hong Kong wqnxy1 
> hltv.org/stats/players/events/11110/Gold.. just 2 events above 1.0 rating > hltv.org/stats/players/events/884/Xizt edt. IarentThinkThatz
2018-03-12 11:36
expected from gold nova showing rating to justify why an IGL is better than other in his opinion :>
2018-03-12 13:29
#780
XeqtR | 
Hong Kong wqnxy1 
expected from silver nova golden is such an amazing igl, that didnt make any proper calls and they won katowice just cuz of great flusha/krimz performance lol but for sure random silver knows shit better than fnatic itself
2018-03-12 14:24
right he did nothing and won a tier1 tournment against the top1 ranked team in the world, but yeah, I agree... him being part of the team means nothing :> fnatic play exacly like 2015 right? they dont read the game well, just won by luck golden tier5 eh eh :> #goldnovamind
2018-03-12 14:51
#687
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India Ba[N]gd0 
Welcome back Xizt
2018-03-12 11:05
#688
Dosia | 
Poland WrzodX 
Don't pick Cache against me, morrafurra!
2018-03-12 11:07
NICE LOGIC FNATIC
2018-03-12 11:06
#690
f0rest | 
Finland Kentab 
Unexpected to be honest
2018-03-12 11:07
Feel sorry for Golden :<
2018-03-12 11:08
must be a joke
2018-03-12 11:08
#693
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Egypt Tywin 
-guardian +golden Faze ez top1
2018-03-12 11:09
LuL golden is paly very well rip fnatic....
2018-03-12 11:14
#695
Estonia rYm 
omg idiots :D Xitz ruined NiP now going to ruin fnatic
2018-03-12 11:15
#703
XeqtR | 
Hong Kong wqnxy1 
> ruined nip > 87-0 he wasnt even worst nip player lol
2018-03-12 11:34
#756
Estonia rYm 
87-0 in 2015 ok
2018-03-12 13:39
#781
XeqtR | 
Hong Kong wqnxy1 
so what? its all of a sudden become irrelevant cuz of age? that's acheivement that will never get old or beaten
2018-03-12 14:25
#869
Estonia rYm 
it's obvious that that period was the least competitive
2018-03-12 19:57
#895
XeqtR | 
Hong Kong wqnxy1 
excuses
2018-03-12 23:26
fake report xd
2018-03-12 11:16
#698
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Poland Punkstyler 
They will be #1 on my hate list with Xzit.
2018-03-12 11:16
Worst Move Timing EVER Fnatic 2018 OMEGALUL
2018-03-12 11:17
Why is it the worst timing ever? :/
2018-03-12 11:46
#828
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Sweden TDK Em1L 
Just won an event and playing Another right now lol
2018-03-12 17:16
#700
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Netherlands CuriosityNL 
Oh no....
2018-03-12 11:19
#702
XeqtR | 
Hong Kong wqnxy1 
expected
2018-03-12 11:33
#704
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Austria znamyy 
xizt good move
2018-03-12 11:35
#705
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United States hudas321 
wow fnatic rip golden lol
2018-03-12 11:35
fnatic never learn...
2018-03-12 11:39
no maaaannnn
2018-03-12 11:42
#713
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Bulgaria vectralsoul 
RIPnatic
2018-03-12 11:53
#714
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Turkey BlueHawaii 
golden was goodd
2018-03-12 11:54
#715
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Denmark Xipingu 
I hope this is a joke, otherwise this is the most idiotic thing I have ever heard in my entire life.
2018-03-12 11:55
Trash move hahahah looooooooooooool after winning a tourney with golden hahahahahahah xDD¨!!!!!!@@@
2018-03-12 11:56
LOL i had to check todays date if it was the 1th April or something
2018-03-12 12:03
this will never work out, there is too much personality difference. Chemistry is not good at all.
2018-03-12 12:07
Expected
2018-03-12 12:11
Because xizt was such a stellar ingame leader for NiP the past few Years..
2018-03-12 12:13
#730
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Sweden wyv0 
What The Fuck Roster shuffles in 2k18
2018-03-12 12:16
good move 100percent!
2018-03-12 12:25
why ? Maikil "Golden" Selim :/
2018-03-12 12:27
said for Golden but obviously hes in a comfortable position after winning Katowice.. gl for the future.
2018-03-12 12:33
LUL win an event then pick up a washed up player. Fnatic back to tier 2.
2018-03-12 12:34
Really?
2018-03-12 12:35
the most retarded roster change since godsent shuffle
2018-03-12 12:38
seems like a weird move but it is not like we know what is going on behind the scenes and in the team.
2018-03-12 12:42
Xizt is much better player than golden so i don't understand why people think its a stupid move, winning one tournament doesn't mean they would be that good all the time
2018-03-12 12:47
#741
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Malaysia byaIi 
Poor golden
2018-03-12 12:49
Ye everyone knows that xizt > golden but it's just not the right time for changes
2018-03-12 13:21
I actually think taz in kinguin and xizt in fnatic are the best to date that could ve happenned. Winning the event with golden once is a good. Oral boost and boost of confidence but its not like fnatic was gonna go and keep winning all events now, golden is still very unexperienced, where as xizt is so gl to all...
2018-03-12 13:27
-Karrigan +Golden +Xizt
2018-03-12 13:33
#758
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Egypt Tywin 
Fnatic = 3th tier
2018-03-12 13:41
why
2018-03-12 13:42
RIP GULDEN
2018-03-12 13:48
why would you do that?
2018-03-12 13:50
#769
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Europe treyhard 
XD PLEASE NO XD lmao why this will ruin fnatic
2018-03-12 14:01
#771
JUGi | 
Sweden toddn 
most retaded change in cs go history
2018-03-12 14:09
#774
Zeus | 
Europe tacomex 
rofl +111111111
2018-03-12 14:17
#783
XeqtR | 
Hong Kong wqnxy1 
i think zeus from gambit to na`vi is moe retarded lol
2018-03-12 14:28
the fnatic godsent shuffle was worse
2018-03-12 14:29
Very smart move Xzist better leader in the world this is good move i like!! lets go fnatic era is here my friend
2018-03-12 14:13
Unexpected tbh.
2018-03-12 14:18
#779
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Netherlands Yak_41M 
hopefully this is just bs otherwise wtf is even the point of having an academy team? unless there is some hidden trade potential im not seeing this just seems like a poor corporate decision.
2018-03-12 14:22
#782
XeqtR | 
Hong Kong wqnxy1 
ppl here should understand a few things : - fnatic won katowice not cuz of golden amazing leading - golden isnt incredible igl - golden is super shitty fragger - xizt igl skillz is not much worse than golden's - xizt can frag well inbe4. xizt re-united with fnatic/carn once again
2018-03-12 14:29
#786
s1mple | 
Sweden lexex3 
why are all this unnecessary changes comming rn?
2018-03-12 14:29
LUL They probably made this decision after the horrible result ins starseries and did not expect at all that they would win the next tournament, now they have this strange situation... BTW i think is a good replacement, Golden is getting better but in my opnion he is not in the level that fnatic needs at the moment!
2018-03-12 14:43
Golden >>> xizt in therm of igling and Xizt=Golden in therm of individual skill rn so its the dumbest move ever,especially considering they were doing better and better
2018-03-12 16:55
Maybe youre right, i think the only way to know is giving golden more chances, because he clearly improved a lot in the last months! But i think other players in the team are making pressure for the change, i dont see then trusting thir IGL enought. But the change was set to happen after the starseries deception, maybe the lack of pressure by knowing was their last torunament with him was exacly what they need??
2018-03-13 12:59
#788
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Spain Rekto_Plasm 
lel
2018-03-12 14:46
#790
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Hungary hardrise 
Something precious has to be on the upper shelf of fnatic what's a secret for IGL's, think about that: pronax, Golden, xizt.. :D Its a betrayal of Golden imo btw.
2018-03-12 14:52
#793
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United Kingdom FEodAL 
even tho i respect xizt from back in the day this would be the worst move fnatic ever done, he is done at top level for what 3 years .. + i dont want any of that nip magic coming to fnatic. if its jw pulling the strings well he can go to nip if he wants but we dont want any nip players here. also would be very disappointed in carn as replacing young talent with old farts doesnt seems his style
2018-03-12 15:03
best move after fnatic-godsent shuffle ))) idk how stupid manager can be but watching this clownfest is funny
2018-03-12 15:13
#798
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CIS LuNaRy 
worst roster move ever
2018-03-12 15:15
nice move
2018-03-12 15:23
#800
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Denmark Vilfort 
fucking fnatic move, now they will never win again
2018-03-12 15:33
I don't believe in this. LOL
2018-03-12 15:37
2018-03-12 15:57
I have literally no clue what Fnatic is doing.
2018-03-12 15:58
#809
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United States StewieOnLAN 
LOLLLL
2018-03-12 15:58
#810
Thorin | 
Poland qube1 
Imposible
2018-03-12 15:59
WTF hahaha
2018-03-12 16:03
#814
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Slovakia bombmeister 
2-19 actually in fpl lol
2018-03-12 16:04
Hahahahahahahah
2018-03-12 16:22
It obviously doesnt make any sense but lets not talk shit before weve seen how they do with him,he will maybe step up
2018-03-12 16:49
2018-03-12 16:55
yeah,lets say he is shit rn because of 1 FPL game,it clearly make sense
2018-03-12 16:56
xizt top 1 confirmed
2018-03-12 16:57
no sense 2 years without titles coming
2018-03-12 16:54
This is even dumber than the Godsent Fnatic move. My god.
2018-03-12 17:08
I hope Fnatic form goes back to shit. Embarrassing way to treat a player after he improved them and helped win an event for the first time in 2 year. Xizt is not an upgrade in anyway what so ever if you watched him the past year.
2018-03-12 17:16
#829
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United States NA_CS_FAN 
rip fnatic
2018-03-12 17:24
rip fnatic wtf???
2018-03-12 17:33
such as GAMBIT STILL SUCK after zeus ...
2018-03-12 17:42
#839
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Sweden DiTzZ 
I mean Xizt is better than Golden, but the current fnatic line-up seemed to be working pretty well, especially with the IEM Katowice victory
2018-03-12 18:05
golden to inexperianced, not good enough individually, IGL not great (probly flushas words carry more weight in decision making during games). This move only makes sense.
2018-03-12 18:05
wtf golden was great individually... im shocked...
2018-03-12 18:07
#843
shaGuar | 
United States brieN 
i like how everyone talks about how they play ingame rather than it could be an internal issue that is bothering the players and it just so happened that they won a tournament. It could also be dumb logic but you never know
2018-03-12 18:26
good move xizt is a beast
2018-03-12 18:31
0/8 hltv.org/news/22651/mousesports-eye-denn.. Got leaked by the same guy, never happened tho
2018-03-12 18:32
#856
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Israel TheLoveGuy 
it wont happen 80% if yes then they are dumb imo :(
2018-03-12 19:23
+1
2018-03-12 20:44
+1
2018-03-12 22:15
#852
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Finland Kaaka0 
Im out.
2018-03-12 18:57
#857
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Indonesia BrokenClocks 
CONGRATZ
2018-03-12 19:27
#858
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Sweden naturen 
I feel like GOLDEN is actually a cheater
2018-03-12 19:30
why do you feel this young one?
2018-03-14 12:56
#867
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Kazakhstan Spurdo 
weird roster change
2018-03-12 19:33
#868
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Poland Kuszotke 
wtf fnatic
2018-03-12 19:43
#875
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Poland ryhupeja 
Go4pronax
2018-03-12 20:19
fak
2018-03-12 20:21
#882
rain | 
Chile nachooww 
whaaaat
2018-03-12 20:44
#884
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Poland Brunovsky 
Goiden>shit>Xizt
2018-03-12 21:03
+1
2018-03-12 22:14
#886
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Australia KryptEm 
This surprised me a lot, yes, since Golden joined, Fnatic has been very good and he did help Fnatic, now there in 5th place in world rankings after winning the IEM Katowice in the grand final against FaZe. But overall, Xizt is a much better player. This is a really wired roster change as well, Even tho Xizt is a much more experienced player, but I don't think this can help Fnatic at all. Xizt had not been doing well for the last 2 year. Why didn't they go after pronax? They could have gone after pyth, and could have even gone after Maikelele. Please reply if I made any mistakes, Thank you :)
2018-03-12 21:28
#888
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Peru Rabidkitty 
Totally unfair. Say whatever you want of golden, but he doesn't deserve this. The actual roster of Fnatic is the reason they could win.
2018-03-12 22:04
#899
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Australia KryptEm 
How is this unfair? Everyone knows Golden has been the perfect In-game leader for Fnatic, he helped them a lot. And I totally agree with what Dert38 said as well, new players are very important like hoe REZ joined NiP, he has been great, he is the star in NiP right now.
2018-03-13 00:11
#902
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Peru Rabidkitty 
Is totally unfair that golden is gonna be replaced after all he did the last tournament,that's what I'm trying to say.
2018-03-13 04:09
#892
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Ukraine Dert38 
Fresh players often very important thing. To win with the same squad always harder. Good reinforcements. Even champions squad even need freshness,
2018-03-12 22:49
#893
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Serbia VuleKindeR 
DEGENERATE FNATIC STAFF, THEY WON A TOURNAMENT XD JUST FCKING KEEP GOLDEN HE GOOD ING LEADER LIKE WTF LMFAO
2018-03-12 22:50
#928
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Turkmenistan HanselCSGod 
Nothing to be writing all caps about, this was a bullshit rumour nothing else, IDK where HLTV got this info from but it's not accurate and I do not know why they published it.
2018-03-13 15:07