This is a huge mistake. xizt is not an IGL.
[*] fnatic 2018-2018
Best team Sweden for sure
FNATIC 2012 is back? wtf XD
To think they were gonna keep this roster cuz of Katowice
xizt re-joins fnatic 7 years later :)
EXCUSE ME WHAT
But I liked Golden..
Just like what happened with pronax, my god.
They just won an event... why would they do this
Wtf. Dumb move. Golden doing fine.
WTF NO JUST WHEN FNC ARE LOOKING BEAST WTF
gl xizt, but imo its downgrade for fnatic(
2012 fnatic back?
is old days fnatic back?
Fnatic is going to regret this one
IT ISNT CONFIRMED
it's a good adding...but they were playing well why do they have to a change.............
LMAO. 'yeah lets replace our IGL'. Hope this is a bait otherwise RIP Fnatic xD
Lol, and this is right after JW called Golden a midget.
Why? It's not a bad roster but I don't get it.
If this is true i feel really fucking bad for Golden ...
they will rock the scene . xzit leading style will fits with fnatic players cauz all the 4 have big firepower and play a really good basic cs
Lul why destroy something what actually works? Xizt in his recently form isn't better than golden. It something personal I guess. Maybe fnatic members hate muslims idk.
Golden in China? That's why they playing FPL now xD
sad for golden but not unexpected
I can't wait to see Fnatic fail after replacing their IGL after the most unexpected win of 2018 lul (less expected than C9 victory)
switching to the rival team? gg
i still remember xizt's epic round in 1.6 on train where he:
--- had an ace
--- team killed carn
--- 1hp 1v2 clutch
As much as nostalgic to see Xizt wearing Fnatic jersey again, I don't see how this benefits over Golden. I mean I constantly see Golden constantly getting decent to great frags on every map but not Xizt. But that's just me.
right after winning an event? LOL
DO FNATIC EVEN HAVE HEARTS?
actually saying that Golden helped them climb up again. better replace him. is that dumb?
Fnatic is anti-muslims confirmed
Hopefully golden finds something good. Godsent?
WTF? rip IEM Katowice championship!
We smart, we loyal, we friendly, we are from BRAZIL!
every1 saying this makes sense but maybe the fnatic honeymoon period is over. they relied so hard on those flusha 200iq plays that shouldn't be able to happen again.
but why? xizt is a bad igl
Golden has been doing good and they just won a bug tournament? Weird if true..
If they do this:
1. They’re idiots
2. NiP would seriously need to think about signing Golden. You could make an argument to cut ReZ, GTR or f0rest in that case.
Golden much better then Xixt.
And the team is used to him, just won IEM Kato.... so stupid if this is real.
But I guess NiP is just "leaking" this to stir up trouble in Fnatic.
Always having internal issues.
damn thats really tough for golden. i hope he finds a new team, idk about his ingame-leading but his fragging was decent.
Golden is doing fine.
Hope it doesnt happen
Please fnatic's manager READ THIS THREAD
They were getting better... Who decided that? The players? Coach?
katowice was fluke XD
xizt is a slightly better version of taz lul
Fnatic are stupid if they make this move
Win tournament, improves over the years > time to change players haha logic!
WUT, rip golden :( Glad for xizt but Golden deserves better.
Rest in peace GoldenBoy :(((((
Hope he will still play at the big stages
This could be the worst change ever.
Golden good IGL
I dont like fnatic but im so glad xizt stays in sweden to play :D CONGRATS XIZT!
this move is so retarded lmao i cba
wtf they won fucking katowice wtf
They just wanted to win a tournament again. Now that they have done that, they want to go back to having no pressure to do anything.
XIZT is fucking trash lmfao
Golden is doing good i think and this news shocked me like i got zeused by some silver noob
Why? They looked more and more decent, golden was performing and calling good as igl..whats the reason?
This has to be the most retardest shit ive read
I called it as soon as allu joined that wierd team, I first thought xizt frib allu would make something great but i guess naaaa
GOOD MOVE. They see having golden isn't going to work in the long run.
worst roster move in ages
Holy Fnatic Xizt PogChamp
hes still looking for teams to kill
scummy move and I hope fnatic will not win another tourney in 2018
WTFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF FNATIC DONT PLS GOLDEN GOOD IGL
I can see Fnatic never wining tournament again.
People forget that fnatics latest win came 95% because of flusha hitting his old form and krimz being a monster.
Sure I would maybe consider cut JW first.
But remember this is the team that went out 3-0 against teams like tyloo...
fnatic stronger than before.
Flickshot article seems to say it's because of "an outside of the game problem".
(Le problème évoqué concernant un aspect en dehors du jeu.)
wins IEM and makes roster change immediately. Makes so much sense lul
Big downgrade...xist was trash last few years
I like Golden a lot, seems like a nice guy and a good igl. But imo this is a great move, will make them stronger
fnatics success has come from the resurgence of flusha and krimz, and lekr0 becoming a stable third "star", not from superb igling. While I can agree that picking up washed up Xizt seems like a big gamble, people are seriously overrating goldens impact.
I hope Fnatic wins WESG with Golden too now
They just won katowice tf
maybe the team didnt like golden, but this seems stupid imo. he was removed from nip for a reason.
So fnatic wins a huge event and they immediately change the igl? 10 iq plays
Not only did Fnatic become way better and more consistent after signed Golden ( many top 4's losing to mainly FAZE ) but they just won a Major Lan because of Golden's tactics and adaptations. I don't understand how they could backstab that guy like that..... i will not support Fnatic if that is true. Maybe if they did badly at the next major but right after Katowice, what a dick move, piss off.
golded fanoboys stfu he was shit
smart move, they only won because flusha carried hard... golden was -1 and Xizt is way better fragger
I say don't try to fix something that isn't (all that) broken
FNATIC zero IQ - BOT + BOT
fnatic fans > HYPE
FROM tier 2 TO TIER 3 PogChamp XDD
This was more stressful to read than Zeus leaving Gambit back to the sinking boat called NaVi. Just why? Xizt is far past his prime and Golden could only develop further. Downgrade , on paper, at least.
xizt back to his roots... fnatic.MSi
would be the dumbest move in csgo history
Its not confirmed but... WTF UNEXPECTED, Its a mistake, rip fnatic and golden :(
what a fucking joke worst roster move this year so far
I think golden has done a good job, it seems weird to replace him now when they've just won IEM (which was huge!)
This is a surprise ;o. Good luck <3
- Just won the first major tournament in 2 years
- Replace the IGL
if they do it then they are retards
lol fnatic not that stupid..mayb jumpy who made some important call @ katowice..
If fnatic do this, then FaZe has to sign Ex6TenZ as well lul...
sad and disrespectful. kicking an awesome guy and a good player such as golden who did so much for fnatic just because xizt might be a little bit better, if even that! lol...
Golden was too short for the alpha males in Fnatic, they had to change him out
that was actually really expected idk what all the fuss is about, Xizt is the best IGL sweden is ever gonna have
this is perhaps the dumbest move of 2018 so far
nice discrimination because golden is 1,50?? lost all respect for fnatic
this looks 10X worse cuz hes from a different background... too. My lord, Fnatic stock just went down the shitter
who cares about LULNATIC, i want news about ex-100 thieves, A.K.A Não tem Como A.K.A SK Gaming A.K.A Top1 team in the world A.K.A Finalist of the Major
why would you sign a washed up IGL like xizt, there's a reason why he got kicked from nip
wtf? they just won with Golden dudeeee
must be internal issues because there is no fucking way xist is the better player
they must have some grand scheme us mortals cannot comprehend
1. Be Fnatic
2. Win a big tournament
3. Change your igl for a washed up noob
Everyone before the ONE tournament win: "OMG KICK GOLDEN AND REPLACE HIM WITH XIZT WTFFF"
Now: "WTTTTFFF WHY DO THEY FUCKING REPLACE GOLDEN HE IS THE BEST IN-GAME LEADER"
UNEXPECTED AS FUCKKKK
Golden to replace karrigan lol
Omg nip need golden now, but it makes no sense
This would be such a shame for him. I don‘t see any reason to kick him but to be fair, who knows what‘s going on internally
This better be a joke, Golden is 10x better than Xizt will ever be.
Might as well take in Friberg as well go full bot team retards.
NOOOO wtf nooooo dont take trash NIP players
What the fuck. This is so ridiculous, ungrateful fucks. They literally said Golden was doing a great job at leading before, and they just won a huge tournament with him. Shame on them.
poor boy golden
-played at a weak team
-proves himself in this weak team, gets promoted
-the harder role is left for him
-he turned out to be a good igl, his new team wins a big tournament
-he gets kicked.
Sad History Tbh
what a joke, xizt has always been an average leader, his team mates carried him and made him look like he was great caller
Also now -karrigan +golden ez close out finals
xizt 0.98 rated 2017 hltv 2.0 rating when 1.06 is average rating
and people talk about more firepower smh
1 step forward, 2 steps back.
ggwp fnatic, jW is the only one who should've been kicked.
not fair seriously, im hating fnatic now. Golden was doing good, and he bring fnatic come back to look strong again. Not chering for them for sure. I dont think Golden was doing bad, thats why i would never again respect u fnatic
for first time i liked fnatic, and they do this. Congratz, u will fail now karma is bitch
shame, Golden seemed to be improving quite a bit recently
gl to golden and xizt
well he even get his share from iem katowice lmao
If you guys read the flickshot report, it says that there's a problem outside the game.
Similar to sk kicking fnx
i dont like this hacking piece of shit team but Xizt ist an Amazingly good Player... Only Idiots dont see that.
Its his IGL Position that makes him look weak.
Gabriell "fnatic two face" Toiletto
poor golden so much talent wasted
even they won a big tournament like katowice, still think that xizt its better than golden.
yes golden its good, great, igl decent, fragger decent, but xizt more experience and better player overall.
golden deserves a good team also, fnatic its a little too much for him, even he won a big tournament, just because some lucky clutches and crazy matches from krimz and flusha. undeserved for golden, congrats to him, but fnatic a hat to big right now... xizt > golden anyday of the week. gl golden and gl xizt in future...
also i really think +golden was a temporary move like when a better igl would pe available... and unfortunately for golden it happened.. early. i dont think golden was a permanent basics for fnatic as a solution! the right choice to make for fnatic! gl....
LE: imo fnatic played with less strats in katowice, more individual plays and gamesense/experience, not so much from golden tactics... fnatic played their game,,, like flusha did clutch 2v5... it wasnt golden, it was fnatic magic, anyway he deserves a good team, but not fnatic!
this is good. golden didnt preform well in IEM. without flusha krimz and jw clutches and insane individual skill they wont win the IEM in golden strats.
Xizt top 6 literally of swe, stfu..
You pick up xizt and kick fnatic best IGL
What the hell is wrong with this line up smh...
NO FUCKING WAY YOU GONNA DO THIS. FNATIC PLZ
they just won katowice why kick him
I don't kurwa know what I supposed to write.
Golden is way better than Xist in every single way. Golden led fnatic to win Katowice against Faze, the number one team in the world, twice, and he is getting kicked. Fnatic wouldn't take in Dennis, but they want Xist? Dennis>>>Xist. Why fnatic. Please stay as you are right now. You don't need a roster change. You guys are one of the best teams in the world every since CSGO released and you guys are continuing it with the help of Golden's fragging, great calls, and being friendly overall. He proved himself worthy and he should stay on Fnatic.
Golden good cap... God rifler..
fnatic org lost all my respect
better keep golden than replacing him
Fnatic "two faced" toledo
@Fnatic, win major, kick IGL, wakakaka, respect!
They could replace golden, yeah why not, but put xizt instead? That's just retarded.
Are some of you people really stupid enough to think they decided this after they won IEM?
Idk how things will be ;__;
This roster change was probably discussed after StarSeries, but I'm surprised the org went through with the roster swap after Katowice
Expecting fnatic to mess up map vetos in every BO3 series
EDIT: Internal issues seem to be a big problem this year? VP, North, G2, Navi (probably after s1mple/flamie leave WESG teams), Astralis (Sorta), SK (Or so they claim to have internal issues right now), and now fnatic.
I cant stand xizt, and this really sucks for golden. He helped turn the team around and now they kick him to the curb...
I hope it's not true
No way Fnatic, whyyy?
WTF ? lul
Feels bad for Golden, he seems a nice guy
- deadweight + deadweight
fnatic dont want to win anymore
look I was no fan of that golden guy but this will ALMOST CERTAINLY make fnatic worse.
That’s much better I think 💭
I mean why not? I think it can work tbh. Xizt is kinda underrated by the community IMO.
they just won a tournament after 2 years and want to CHANGE A PLAYER???????
Xizt has won an iem. Golden has one iem. They want that grand slam iem knowledge. Mixing up the iem strats for the next one. Keeping it fresh. They just want the grand slam. Don't want anyone anti stratting golden so they're taking xizt for the next one
Pretty exspected. Im pretty sure this process started after kiev. Flusha even stated in an interview that They needed a break from eachother after the 0-3 exit, clearly indicating that not everything was working within the team. Tbh i dont Think They exspected to do good in Katowice, and let's be honest, they wouldn't have won without that insane performance by flusha
I would rather see replaced by him lekro
I doubt fnatic would be dumb enough to make a change right after their best performance in two years.
This is fucking retarded and heart breaking. Why the fuck would they replace their igl who made them relevant again , took them to the playoffs of 90% of the events they played , brought the team to top 5 and won them a fucking premier event after 2 fucking years and its just the beginning and he is still improving at an extremely fast rate. On top of that , they are replacing him with someone as washed up as xizt? Even dennis wouldve been a better choice idk what fnatic is smoking but this doesnt make sense , it wouldve if they had done it after starseries. Its not that they won with individual skill alone , golden had some really smart tactics especially his setups on ct on mirage and inferno and his t side rounds generally were so good its not easy to pick 8 t rounds in a row against faze on their best (and one of fnatic's worst) maps , overpass.
I hope this news is fake , because if it isnt then fnatic will surely regret this and will surely be back to top 15 :(
What a joke if they are going to do this. Golden was playing really well at IEM.
They r after sk spoiling a good team
LOL doesn't make any sense,they've just done won a tournament.Xizt was never great as an igl,he doesn't add a lot of firepower either,he is the kinda person that has an amazing match once in a while,but otherwise is just shit.
This is really stupid tbh
Xizt's 200iq move to have fresh major stickers
Win major after 2 years - kick your IGL XDDD
this would be suicide.
if fnatic does this i really lost all respect for them :D
are you kidding me fnatic? WTF
WHY? IT TOOK THEM 2 YEARS TO FINALLY FIND A SOLUTION AND THEY FUCK IT UP LIKE TARDS
worst move ever. golden did fucking great. carried the team back to the top.
this looks so stupid, but it would be the best move for Xizt
Lost all respect i had for Fnatic
say NO to svedistans
Only possible cause is Golden criminal.
This move can mean only one thing: Faze are gonna replace Karrigan with Golden. It's too obvious that Golden is way better comparing to Karrigan, he is younger and still has a huge potential to growth. By that move Faze is gonna make two things: improve the team and open the Turkish market for themselves. Wise decision!
I love how people always draw conclusions about shit they know nothing about, if this swap happens theres probably a solid reason for it
holy fuck this is for sure sickest lineup
good luck and <3 fnatic
WTF, They just won a big tournament.
Well, there goes fnatic again
Many people actually liked fnatic for couple of weeks and flusha be like "i hate to be liked, let's do some shit move".
Finally this bot leave this team
This is a good start to make your team trash tier again.
Wtf not this shit again, fnatic why
Picking kicked player from tier3 team lul
Error 404 swedish brain not found.
Worst move since Fnatic/Godsent shuffle?
So you win a big tournament and then look to change your igl?!? Lol ok Fnatic
Bad decision, they've looked solid with Golden, and he has potential to improve whereas I don't see that from Xizt anymore :(
Golden is not a best player (as a lider it's hard to focus)... but i guess that he renewed fnatic... No reason to change him.
For all we know golden stabbed flusha in the butthole with a stolen cheese or something, therefore the kick was deserved. And maybe Xizt is a good fit for fnatic. Stop being so fucking naive kids.
It's that feeling when you start to like a character in a movie or series, and they just get removed.
EZ TOP2 (SK TOP1)
fuck NiP "TwoFaced" Toledo
There goes fnatic, back to t2
time to bring f0rest and getright back
Um, right after winning a tournament? You okay, fnatic?
For real though, Golden has been picking up the pace as of late. Such poor timing on their part.
Lost all respect 4 fnatic, if this is true...
I f this happens, I can't wait to see fnatic crashing down the ranks.
Lol, if this happens than watching a NiP vs fnatic match will be really interesting xD
This has to be one of the most retarded roster changes if it happens... it's not really because they won't have success but Golden needs to stay since he made fnatic a good team again and now they want to kick him to bring a player who was kicked from NiP. Hope it doesn't happen
if they want to suck as a team again, sure go ahead fnatic ... back to trash
Golden to Faze might be a thing then lel
WTF THEY JUST STABBED HIM IN THE BACK
POUR GOLDEN BOY
Rip my boys Fnatic... pls don’t do it
Btw ripperinos OGL NiP
bye hav a gud time
i told you xizt go to fnatic
At least give GOLDEN chance 1 more tournament to prove himself, because they already win a thing with him... 😐
I still hoping that is fake have checked all fnatic tweets but nothing about replacement
Out of all the fucking players in the world they pick xizt. XIZT for crying out loud. Why the fuck did they trade dennis to nip in this case.
This would make me really happy :)
0 iq Roster move
Golden was the new Pronax.....
wtf? this is best lineup forr fnatic,after 2015
Won IEM and kicked golden lul
Golden was a ballast, fnatic won Katowice only because of the individual game, and not from the strategies.
Look at HLTV being HLTV again.
You guys probably forgot this line: "not all is well within the team outside the game"
If that is to be the case, with Golden being the target of replacement, it obviously means Golden is the subject of whatever bad is happening behind the scenes or it revolves around him. Then, if we are to consider that this is a bad issue (why would fnatic replace him given that they won tournaments with him recently anyway), and fnatic would NOT replace him, then fnatic will EVENTUALLY crumble, probably even faster if they would let him stay.
Maikelele in NiP wasn't replaced just because of nothing even though they won tournaments with him. Remember why was fnx replaced when SK were already having a good run anyway.
Freaking read between the lines, you people
wtf, golden is 10x better than this washed up bot -.-
Don't pick Cache against me, morrafurra!
Faze ez top1
LuL golden is paly very well rip fnatic....
omg idiots :D
Xitz ruined NiP now going to ruin fnatic
They will be #1 on my hate list with Xzit.
Worst Move Timing EVER Fnatic 2018 OMEGALUL
wow fnatic rip golden lol
I hope this is a joke, otherwise this is the most idiotic thing I have ever heard in my entire life.
Trash move hahahah looooooooooooool after winning a tourney with golden hahahahahahah xDD¨!!!!!!@@@
LOL i had to check todays date if it was the 1th April or something
this will never work out, there is too much personality difference. Chemistry is not good at all.
Because xizt was such a stellar ingame leader for NiP the past few Years..
Roster shuffles in 2k18
why ? Maikil "Golden" Selim :/
said for Golden but obviously hes in a comfortable position after winning Katowice.. gl for the future.
LUL win an event then pick up a washed up player. Fnatic back to tier 2.
the most retarded roster change since godsent shuffle
seems like a weird move but it is not like we know what is going on behind the scenes and in the team.
Xizt is much better player than golden so i don't understand why people think its a stupid move, winning one tournament doesn't mean they would be that good all the time
Ye everyone knows that xizt > golden but it's just not the right time for changes
I actually think taz in kinguin and xizt in fnatic are the best to date that could ve happenned. Winning the event with golden once is a good. Oral boost and boost of confidence but its not like fnatic was gonna go and keep winning all events now, golden is still very unexperienced, where as xizt is so gl to all...
XD PLEASE NO XD lmao why this will ruin fnatic
most retaded change in cs go history
Very smart move Xzist better leader in the world this is good move i like!! lets go fnatic era is here my friend
hopefully this is just bs otherwise wtf is even the point of having an academy team? unless there is some hidden trade potential im not seeing this just seems like a poor corporate decision.
ppl here should understand a few things :
- fnatic won katowice not cuz of golden amazing leading
- golden isnt incredible igl
- golden is super shitty fragger
- xizt igl skillz is not much worse than golden's
- xizt can frag well
inbe4. xizt re-united with fnatic/carn once again
why are all this unnecessary changes comming rn?
They probably made this decision after the horrible result ins starseries and did not expect at all that they would win the next tournament, now they have this strange situation... BTW i think is a good replacement, Golden is getting better but in my opnion he is not in the level that fnatic needs at the moment!
Something precious has to be on the upper shelf of fnatic what's a secret for IGL's, think about that: pronax, Golden, xizt.. :D
Its a betrayal of Golden imo btw.
even tho i respect xizt from back in the day this would be the worst move fnatic ever done, he is done at top level for what 3 years .. + i dont want any of that nip magic coming to fnatic. if its jw pulling the strings well he can go to nip if he wants but we dont want any nip players here. also would be very disappointed in carn as replacing young talent with old farts doesnt seems his style
best move after fnatic-godsent shuffle ))) idk how stupid manager can be but watching this clownfest is funny
fucking fnatic move, now they will never win again
I don't believe in this. LOL
I have literally no clue what Fnatic is doing.
It obviously doesnt make any sense but lets not talk shit before weve seen how they do with him,he will maybe step up
2 years without titles coming
This is even dumber than the Godsent Fnatic move. My god.
I hope Fnatic form goes back to shit. Embarrassing way to treat a player after he improved them and helped win an event for the first time in 2 year. Xizt is not an upgrade in anyway what so ever if you watched him the past year.
such as GAMBIT STILL SUCK after zeus ...
I mean Xizt is better than Golden, but the current fnatic line-up seemed to be working pretty well, especially with the IEM Katowice victory
golden to inexperianced, not good enough individually, IGL not great (probly flushas words carry more weight in decision making during games). This move only makes sense.
wtf golden was great individually... im shocked...
i like how everyone talks about how they play ingame rather than it could be an internal issue that is bothering the players and it just so happened that they won a tournament. It could also be dumb logic but you never know
xizt is a beast
I feel like GOLDEN is actually a cheater
This surprised me a lot, yes, since Golden joined, Fnatic has been very good and he did help Fnatic, now there in 5th place in world rankings after winning the IEM Katowice in the grand final against FaZe. But overall, Xizt is a much better player.
This is a really wired roster change as well, Even tho Xizt is a much more experienced player, but I don't think this can help Fnatic at all. Xizt had not been doing well for the last 2 year.
Why didn't they go after pronax? They could have gone after pyth, and could have even gone after Maikelele.
Please reply if I made any mistakes, Thank you :)
Totally unfair. Say whatever you want of golden, but he doesn't deserve this. The actual roster of Fnatic is the reason they could win.
Fresh players often very important thing. To win with the same squad always harder. Good reinforcements. Even champions squad even need freshness,
DEGENERATE FNATIC STAFF, THEY WON A TOURNAMENT XD JUST FCKING KEEP GOLDEN HE GOOD ING LEADER LIKE WTF LMFAO