VG.Flash, Fierce Tiger to replay Asia Minor qualifier match

MIRAA
May 24th, 2018 13:41

VG.Flash and Fierce Tiger will have to replay the grand final of the Chinese qualifier for the Asia Minor, both teams have confirmed.

In emails sent to both teams, FACEIT explained that "it is in the best interest for the integrity of the competition, as well as in view of fairness and sportsmanship" for the final to be replayed, and added that the match must take place by the end of the week.

Fierce Tiger had initially qualified for the Asia Minor with a forfeit victory over VG.Flash, who could not play the match due to internet issues.

The WCA 2017 champions suspected of foul play and issued a statement explaining that their internet had been sabotaged just before the match was scheduled to start.

Summer & co will face Fierce Tiger in a replay of the final

Unhappy with FACEIT's decision, Fierce Tiger took to Reddit and revealed the emails that were exchanged with the tournament organisers. In them, the Chinese organisation claim that they cannot be held accountable for VG.Flash's "own mistakes", adding that their opponents' internet issues were "caused by their own negligence".

Furthermore, Fierce Tiger wrote that the players "are now on vacation" and that the decision to replay the match "could have a really big influence" on the outcome of the encounter.

"We do not believe a rematch is needed, and we are deeply frustrated by the very fact that a rematch has been officially requested by FACEIT, a reputable and trustworthy host for various eSports tournaments and leagues, when our qualification is completely justified by the contest rules and has been communicated through HLTV.org to fans of CS:GO," Fierce Tiger wrote in a statement posted on Reddit.

"FACEIT’s act not only disrespects the rules and our team, it also undermines their own credibility. How can the justness and integrity of a tournament/game be protected and guaranteed, when the rules can be easily disregarded by the host?

"Though we respect the rules and the host, we will not (accept such decision / comply with such request). We will not surrender our qualification for Asia Minor to any unfair decisions. We sincerely hope that FACEIT and parties involved can reach a verdict with fair play in mind."

#1
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United Kingdom iMarbot 
ez FACEIT making best decision
2018-05-24 13:41
"Reply edited" Expected from Liquipedia editor
2018-05-24 13:44
#37
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Netherlands Deji 
Unexpected from razarza
2018-05-24 13:59
#47
United States bLL 
unexpected from liquipedia admin
2018-05-24 14:22
#68
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United Kingdom iMarbot 
expected from eesti :eethink:
2018-05-24 14:46
#114
United States bLL 
:b
2018-05-24 17:29
#118
Ant1ka | 
CIS a2wai 
Expected
2018-05-24 17:45
HLTV chat is filled with noobs who don't know what they're talking about, only talk if you're Liquipedia Reviewer or higher :liquithink:
2018-05-24 20:11
#119
Ant1ka | 
CIS a2wai 
Still expected too
2018-05-24 17:46
#55
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Sweden RRosenberg 
I Agree :)
2018-05-24 14:26
CHINA ALWAYES like to cheat in FPS game coz they are shit
2018-05-24 17:49
#136
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China Lanceeeeee 
So you are not CHINESE?
2018-05-24 18:49
#154
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China sidwich 
means You cheat too because you are a Chinese just like us
2018-05-25 01:54
#159
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China SWhinX 
Republic of Chinese do mockery lol TWCS
2018-05-25 03:45
#168
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China qszhu 
You are also a Chinese anyway. nt
2018-05-25 14:37
#2
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Australia tehN 
chineze mafia
2018-05-24 13:42
#3
apEX | 
Brunei AreYouPro 
Now chinese mafia cant win FT the match
2018-05-24 13:42
#4
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Germany AYEON 
ez
2018-05-24 13:42
#5
shox | 
France dpRsCSGO 
wtf
2018-05-24 13:42
vg.fg really bad team
2018-05-24 13:42
#8
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United Kingdom 3thanol99 
inb4 internet assassinated again
2018-05-24 13:42
#121
JZFB | 
Lithuania gime114 
this time fierce tiger, and it turns out it's just a random dude disconnecting internet cables cuz he's planning a heist on some company that both teams have an association with.
2018-05-24 17:49
asian cs
2018-05-24 13:43
inb4 Flash all suddenly disappear.
2018-05-24 13:43
#12
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Denmark Gugus_Patacus 
Fierce Tiger is such a shame.
2018-05-24 13:44
FT is so fucking suspect right now.
2018-05-24 13:44
Inb4 those cheaters give the match up
2018-05-24 13:44
Huehue can't wait to se where this is gonna go
2018-05-24 13:44
#17
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Latvia pumasiK 
expected
2018-05-24 13:45
Ez Fierce Tiger
2018-05-24 13:45
#20
swag | 
China braxton6 
that's great
2018-05-24 13:45
#21
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Indonesia linekerrr 
expected
2018-05-24 13:45
#22
s1mple | 
Poland BlaZeCS 
good job
2018-05-24 13:45
Unhappy with FACEIT's decision, Fierce Tiger took to Reddit and revealed the emails that were exchanged with the tournament organisers. In them, the Chinese organisation claim that they cannot be held accountable for VG.Flash's "own mistakes", adding that their opponents' internet issues were "caused by their own negligence". Furthermore, Fierce Tiger wrote that the players "are now on vacation" and that the decision to replay the match "could have a really big influence" on the outcome of the encounter. Wow now I'm sure those fuckers did it.
2018-05-24 13:46
#59
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Brazil LukkasYuki 
They should DQ Fierce Tigers and qualify VG FG
2018-05-24 14:34
No that's retarded, because they don't have concrete evidence that they did it, a rematch is the right decision.
2018-05-24 14:42
#77
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Australia NotSoMLG 
and its highly suspected that ft 5th is one of their old members known as supreme. supreme is ineligible as he is banned for match fixing so idk
2018-05-24 15:14
Leo's real identity is an enigma but there is adequate evidence to show Leo and supreme are the same person in Chinese forum.
2018-05-25 04:07
#24
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Indonesia DezfanzeR 
The players are now on "VACation"? LUL
2018-05-24 13:46
VAC at ion. So it is about electrons. That means electricity. So we know who cut the wire now. Furious Tigers.
2018-05-24 14:25
Take a bow man, take a bow.
2018-05-24 14:33
#25
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Russia 50bombs 
no leo no win lul
2018-05-24 13:46
#26
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China Flash_kaze 
Good job by faceit
2018-05-24 13:47
#29
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India Alllah 
Get rekt Fierce Tigers xD
2018-05-24 13:48
Why cheater
2018-05-24 13:48
#32
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Israel Xpicyy 
EZ
2018-05-24 13:53
the Chinese organisation claim that they cannot be held accountable for VG.Flash's "own mistakes", adding that their opponents' internet issues were "caused by their own negligence". Furthermore, Fierce Tiger wrote that the players "are now on vacation" and that the decision to replay the match "could have a really big influence" on the outcome of the encounter. OMEGALUL
2018-05-24 13:53
#34
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Slovakia Reve_nant 
Their manager cant be serious about that statement. Only fair decision was just made. There are so many shady things about them.
2018-05-24 13:55
#35
jOELZ | 
Finland TiltedAF 
Fuck off Fierce Cheaters
2018-05-24 13:55
#36
nex | 
Germany Der_Pabst 
chillaui
2018-05-24 13:56
#38
Brazil edg 
They are soooo not trying to win fair and square.. haha They are clearly the prime suspects now. FT could at least accept the rematch, in "sportsmanship", to mask their wrongdoing.
2018-05-24 14:05
#98
nex | 
Germany Der_Pabst 
ikr. why are you replying to me tho
2018-05-24 16:19
#169
Brazil edg 
oh, sorry bro. It was supposed to be a reply to #34.
2018-05-25 15:06
#170
nex | 
Germany Der_Pabst 
np
2018-05-25 16:40
Anyone but me, that read the mail from FT as the old korean news speaker?..
2018-05-24 14:11
#40
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Brazil Gunzel 
lol. RIP Savage
2018-05-24 14:11
China CS = Omegalul , cheating like there is no tomorrow , ddoss and stranger things might happen to ANYONE that benefit some few chosen ones....
2018-05-24 14:12
#42
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Europe Hue_Ganus 
+1 for faceit
2018-05-24 14:16
#43
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Asia Hltv_Addmin 
Justice for FT. FaceIt got paid by VG.Flash. Such a biased organization.
2018-05-24 14:17
0/8
2018-05-24 14:23
-9000/8
2018-05-24 14:34
#78
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Australia NotSoMLG 
8/0
2018-05-24 15:15
#44
mir | 
Slovakia TatKo 
What a pile of bullshit from FT manager. Just play the fucking match fair and square. Thank god that faceit is keeping its face. I aslo feel bad for VG having to go thru all this crap.
2018-05-24 14:18
LOL, and I here thought this shit show couldn't get more out of hand xddddddd, FT surely has point why match should not be played but for fair play it seems ok to me I guess, however seems FT doesn't rly respect such things anyway so easy to understand their point xddd...
2018-05-24 14:21
just disqualify Fierce Tiger. they used a fking cheater in the other game..they don't deserve shit
2018-05-24 14:20
#51
STYKO | 
Czech Republic Limacool 
+1
2018-05-24 14:25
#48
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Kazakhstan DanabekAlt 
was playing with couple of players of both teams on 5E ladder, most of them are toxic ;/ its not even coz of trash talk, they just keep playing with mute and 0 communication
2018-05-24 14:22
it's common for CN players. That's why Tyloo is the only hope for CNCS.
2018-05-24 15:45
#87
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Kazakhstan DanabekAlt 
dude i even speaking chinese to them, and trying to comunicate as much as i can, still 2K elo players are shit ;\
2018-05-24 15:47
I wont expect anything more to those guys after I witnessed a early quit from Attacker, in a 1v2 post plant situation as T side and the scoreline was 13-15. They do have brilliant skills, but they are just too toxic. PS: A Kazakh can speak Chinese? r u an ethnic Chinese
2018-05-24 15:54
#91
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Kazakhstan DanabekAlt 
lmao, im student. Currently in China doing my bachelor degree. Passed HSK 4, 3 years ago and been here for almost 4 years so i can speak mandarin, but not too much u know :) if u are playing 5E ladder we can play together dude, i used to play alone but its hard to win with this kind of players ;/
2018-05-24 15:59
Wow I am so happy to be invited by a semi-pro, but I am just a noob :( (MM nova 3 and 5E ~1000 sth like that). The gap between our skills is too big and the match wont be interesting I think. btw which university r u studying in?
2018-05-24 16:15
#96
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Kazakhstan DanabekAlt 
its ok :) but im not semi pro xD 2K elo is garbage its like near to supreme, Wuhan University of technology, Hubei province
2018-05-24 16:18
#107
qz | 
China Hudz0 
Very interesting view of 5Ewin. I share similar experience with you. I've been doing my BSc in UK for 3 years and I started play CSGO in Europe so I'm more familiar with EU style of CSGO, which is more comms & strats related, so when the first time I played on 5E and B5 I encountered soooo much toxic players and the CNCS play style is more aggressive and most ppl are just dry peeking and win duels by pure aim, now I had about 200 games on both platforms, and I'm used to this style of CSGO lol. btw I found ppl at 1700-2000 elo are most friendly, lower elo players normally are just too noob (sorry to them) to play with and 2200+ elo players are so hot-tempered, damn. Forgot to mention im around 2000 elo mark.
2018-05-24 17:02
#152
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Kazakhstan DanabekAlt 
well u just played on 5E and cant say anything about B5 or smth but mostly as i said games on 2K and higher is just luck or lose, i mean luck of teammate much up, if there is 2-3 dudes playing together they will just play in silence with out info, its most positive thing that could happen, coz they can start trash talking and throwing the game if u made a mistake coz u have to play without info :) im writing that just after losing 8 games in the row dude and im pised off and totally disapointed of wasting to much time for the game with out any results COZ HAVE TO PLAY ALONE AGAINST PEOPLE HOW PLAYING TOGETHER :) 2100>1800 now feelsbadman
2018-05-25 00:42
#165
qz | 
China Hudz0 
I feel you mate. soloQ is pure luck-dependent and in most cases players u met were just pure braindead and toxic. Hope you can find some reliable mates and play together.
2018-05-25 06:13
#112
cyx | 
China kazuk1 
OK Wuhan+1
2018-05-24 17:25
#137
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China motorbott 
Dude can I add you? I am also student in this school and maybe I can help or we can just play together sometime?
2018-05-24 18:52
#138
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China motorbott 
It’s a surprise that I would meet someone who is my schoolmate at a certain page on such an international site.
2018-05-24 19:03
#50
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Germany Vini_1337 
lol this game is gonna be a shitshow xD expect multiple ddos attempts and leo cheating his ass off
2018-05-24 14:23
LOL What a fcking joke. Rules are rules.
2018-05-24 14:25
chris please make more indie rock no more of this pop shit please
2018-05-24 15:05
#54
yay | 
Poland zector 
FT pls stfu
2018-05-24 14:26
+1
2018-05-24 15:47
#56
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Russia ebalo) 
FT is just going to fuck with that match again
2018-05-24 14:28
#61
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Germany AYEON 
VG.flash surrender after players received death threats ft to mior
2018-05-24 14:35
Why isn't FT commenting on the getting your played VAC-ed situation? You literally got disqualified from a pretty major tournament because of hacking and you now have the stones to diss at FACEIT while you try to ignore that your player literally got banned for cheating? And who tf sends their players on vacation a week before qualifiers start? So shady and so much bullshit.
2018-05-24 14:36
#129
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United States Prattatat 
> And who tf sends their players on vacation a week before qualifiers start? So shady and so much bullshit. This right here is why I think they are behind the issues. Why are they not practicing with very important matches on the horizon. A vacation in the middle of one of the most important times for their team? Doesn't make any sense
2018-05-24 18:31
I hope there's some kind of investigation going on, people sinking to such levels to progress in a game is so pathetic.
2018-05-24 18:32
#132
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United States Prattatat 
Agreed and messing with someones internet is a serious security issue. Along with the fact they played with a cheater in official tournaments and basically acted like it didn't happen makes me think there is more shady stuff behind this org.
2018-05-24 18:34
#63
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Europe traqqi 
" our qualification is completely justified" LUL
2018-05-24 14:37
are now on VACation hahahahhahaha
2018-05-24 14:42
#69
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New Zealand tyfnz 
"We do not believe a rematch is needed, and we are deeply frustrated by the very fact that a rematch has been officially requested by FACEIT, a reputable and trustworthy host for various eSports tournaments and leagues, when our qualification is completely justified by the contest rules and has been communicated through HLTV.org to fans of CS:GO," Fierce Tiger wrote in a statement posted on Reddit." Yes because continuing to play in a tournament when one of your players literally got VAC-banned days before is fair play lmao. Should be VG.FG vs ROAR instead. Ban these fuckers from the minor.
2018-05-24 14:50
#110
Thorin | 
Asia CA1MAN 
literally, like ban the fucking org. there is no way they didn't know of all the shady shit. ban the org and let it be.
2018-05-24 17:16
#70
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Sweden Unluko 
hahahahhaha
2018-05-24 14:54
and fierce tiger said nothing about LEo’s vacban until now
2018-05-24 14:59
#75
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Poland Kobel_ 
They sooo did it Good decision by FaceIt
2018-05-24 15:02
inb4 James Bardolph assassinated by Chinese mafia RIP in advance
2018-05-24 15:18
#81
Australia DubL 
I hope vg.flash walk all over them in this rematch
2018-05-24 15:30
Fuck fierce tiger shady af gl to Vici
2018-05-24 15:34
#84
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Bulgaria VPSkype 
gg ez VG Flash
2018-05-24 15:43
lol pure scum, get rekt FACEit can do whatever they want, this is entirely within the rules. They can call this rematch at their discretion due to the circumstances, all tournaments have such clauses in the rules
2018-05-24 15:57
#92
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United States SmokaDaWeEDs 
Sounds like somebody scared to play a match
2018-05-24 16:00
#93
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Switzerland hanniba1fade 
anyone got a clip or video link to see the cheater that they used? i heard on by the numbers but they didnt show a clip
2018-05-24 16:02
#97
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Asia Scar3cr0w 
found some chinese video at the end of the video there was couple of clips of leo. here is the link bilibili.com/video/av23687008?from=searc..
2018-05-24 16:18
#105
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Switzerland hanniba1fade 
thanks
2018-05-24 16:43
#99
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United States Hosch 
I know a video of it is on richard lewis' twitch, but that's the only one I could find of it
2018-05-24 16:22
#94
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Sweden Autistmeister 
Being so defensive about it only makes it more suspicious from F E. They hired chinese hacker xdxd
2018-05-24 16:03
#104
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Portugal Isaacovsky 
I can see both points, and I'm leaning towards the organizers side.
2018-05-24 16:32
#106
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Indonesia HARITSAH 
GGWP
2018-05-24 16:49
Imagine qualifying for the minor, without actually playing a single game, associating with a known match-fixer and getting one of your players vacbanned just days prior. Sound. Thank god FACEIT actually did something.
2018-05-24 17:13
#111
Thorin | 
Asia CA1MAN 
i feel bad for ROAR. they have been robbed the most here IMO
2018-05-24 17:18
#113
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Bulgaria MaestroGOD 
And they are saying that even though they qualified to everything with a cheater? Hahaha what a pathetic monkeys with absolutely 0 dignity..
2018-05-24 17:27
Why are they so scared of replaying the match if they know they are better?
2018-05-24 17:40
#116
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United States Venom_ 
FT playing with vac banned player LUL
2018-05-24 17:43
FT CHEAT TEAM why u need any respect ????????? ARE U FUCKING Joking???
2018-05-24 17:48
and you are still fanning savage wtf
2018-05-25 02:44
#173
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China SWhinX 
They dont need respect but thats not the reason u trolling everywhere
2018-05-26 18:10
VG will walk over FT either way. If they don’t, they still shouldn’t be qualified because they cheated their way. FaceIt is basically spitting in VG’s face in bith scenarios. Should’ve been a rematch at the minimum, FT got banned maximum. Not sure why they’re even allowed to play.
2018-05-24 17:55
#124
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Argentina EnvyJ 
They should be DQ, why are they crying?
2018-05-24 17:56
#125
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United States veryMAGAguy 
gj faceit
2018-05-24 18:16
#126
allu | 
United States eprepp 
He didn't have to release the email logs tho, thats kinda unprofessional
2018-05-24 18:16
fierce wallhackers lul
2018-05-24 18:22
"FACEIT’s act not only disrespects the rules and our team, it also undermines their own credibility." hypocrites
2018-05-24 18:32
LMAO
2018-05-25 02:45
#133
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Turkey darkh1ous 
No leo no win
2018-05-24 18:36
#134
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Brazil LukeCS 
what a dirty and coward team is Fierce Tiger... they are already complaining before even playing the match, will they sabotage VG.Flash's internet again to go to the Minor without playing? How many matches they played in the qualifier? Really, it seems that they got here only because of forfeits, they don't deserve it by any means and are still talking about "fair play"... Terrible team, screwing the image of Chinese CS even more
2018-05-24 18:44
I'd stake my net worth that those pricks hired someone to pull VGs internet. I'd be happy if all of them hot barred from valve tournaments completely. They should be thanking Faceit for another chance when they obviously are willing to cheat and sabotage to win. That Michealangelo loser was the most obvious waller I've seen in any tournament ever.
2018-05-24 18:46
These qualifiers shouldn't be online in the first place, because it's for one of the most prestigious tournament. So if they could not play because their internet broke out, it is fair to play the match and let the best team win. A default win would have been okay if they didn't show up at all without having any issues. I can't understand why Fierce Tigers are creating such a drama. Show everyone you are the best team by beating them on the server, not by winning thanks to a forfeit win. If you love the competition, you would have loved to play them.
2018-05-24 19:20
#140
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United States Shiflo 
To me, it sounds like Fierce Tiger is a team full of scumbags. How can they even talk of integrity or fair play when their qualification wasn't received through such values. I say the rematch is the only way to ensure that the better team gets the spot fairly.
2018-05-24 19:32
#141
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Sweden Flukey 
This rematch is completely justified. because the chinese scene is so rampant with match fixing and cheating. Not only blatantly obvious cheating like their past player Leo, but also DDOS attacks and even going so far as to visiting other players homes to cut their internet connection so they cant play in order to win by walk over. Fierce Tiger as an organization will pull of whatever bullshit they can get away with, must suck to be a player in this org.
2018-05-24 19:32
lmao... gj!
2018-05-24 20:30
lul
2018-05-24 21:41
dont' kill fierce tiger sticker please
2018-05-24 22:56
#164
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Australia NotSoMLG 
this is for the minor not for the major. only minor finalists get stickers
2018-05-25 04:44
#151
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Brazil beckergod 
Fierce tiger the most trash team ever, rekt them vg.flash please
2018-05-25 00:24
this is one of the most retarded comments i've seen in ages, thanks for making my day
2018-05-25 11:05
faceit ban fucking FT plz
2018-05-25 03:23
#166
qz | 
China Hudz0 
Now FT is a huge joke
2018-05-25 07:13
#171
NiKo | 
Bosnia and Herzegovina Nikolino 
yes
2018-05-25 23:06
#172
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Thailand beam2546 
FT go fk yourself cunt
2018-05-26 13:21
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