Players' Association announced

Around 90 top players have already joined the Counter-Strike Professional Players' Association (CSPPA). Now, seven players have agreed to form the association's board and go public.

After being a hot topic in the professional CS:GO community for years, a union that looks to serve the needs of players now finally sees the light of day.

The CSPPA was officially set up earlier this year by veteran esports personality Scott "SirScoots" Smith in collaboration with an organisation called 'Danish Elite Athletes Association' and a group of players with Andreas "Xyp9x" Højsleth at the helm, and it has been increasing its membership count since then.

The founding board of the Counter-Strike Professional Players’ Association

Seven players, two of whom were in the HLTV Top 20 for 2017, have now formed the founding board, which will make all decisions on behalf of the association and its members to ensure the 'best possible conditions for players', according to the CSPPA.

The founding board members of the Counter Strike Professional Players' Association are:

Denmark Andreas "Xyp9x" Højsleth
Brazil Epitacio "TACO" de Melo
United States Tarik "tarik" Celik
United States Jonathan "EliGE" Jablonowski
United States Jordan "n0thing" Gilbert
Netherlands Chris "chrisJ" de Jong
France Nathan "NBK-" Schmitt

The CSPPA's daily operations, including legal counsel for players, will be run by legal advisor Michael Døi and by Mads Øland, CEO of the Danish Elite Athletes Association, a Danish umbrella organisation that acts as a union for sports athletes in Denmark.

According to Døi, members of the association will elect a new board, or confirm the existing one, within the first year of operation.

Døi says that the CSPPA's main objective is to help players with legal advice and assist them in signing contracts with teams and organisations, as well as to 'become the collective voice of the players in CS:GO and an important stakeholder in the industry.'

"As any other players’ association, we will work to secure the best possible working conditions for players in CS:GO, while of course taking into account the special nature of the industry," Døi added.

"In any sport, it makes sense that players can influence their employment conditions. There is certainly a huge difference in how CS:GO contracts are structured, and there will definitely be players that could benefit from guidance when signing them.

"Our goal is to represent the players in the best possible way and help the entire scene grow in a positive direction. We see a lot of possibilities for doing that."

Scott "SirScoots" Smith (left) is a long-time advocate for player's rights

As for membership requirements, Døi says that any player who is contracted or actively seeking a contract as a professional Counter-Strike player and 'who competes at an elite level' is eligible to be an active member of the CSPPA.

And according to him, the association is still in the process of reaching out to players who are not yet members and 'letting them know about the association.'

The Danish Elite Athletes Association already runs a similar union for Danish esports athletes, which was revealed a year ago by Dust2.dk.

The association and its CEO Mads Øland claim 'experience in setting up and managing international player's associations', being part of the board of FIFPro, the international football players’ association, as well as working with the World Players Association, an international umbrella organization for players’ associations.

Øland and Døi are also a part of 'Spillerforeningen', a union for Danish football players. Over the years, the union has had several clashes with Danish football clubs and the country's football association over matters pertaining to player contracts and agreements.

France Nathan 'NBK-' Schmitt
Nathan 'NBK-' Schmitt
Age:
24
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.04
Maps played:
1509
KPR:
0.71
DPR:
0.66
APR:
0.15
Brazil Epitacio 'TACO' de Melo
Epitacio 'TACO' de Melo
Age:
24
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.95
Maps played:
851
KPR:
0.62
DPR:
0.64
APR:
0.12
United States Jonathan 'EliGE' Jablonowski
Jonathan 'EliGE' Jablonowski
Age:
21
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.07
Maps played:
1003
KPR:
0.75
DPR:
0.69
APR:
0.16
United States Scott 'SirScoots' Smith
Scott 'SirScoots' Smith
Age:
-
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
0.00
Maps played:
0
KPR:
0.00
DPR:
0.00
APR:
0.00
Netherlands Chris 'chrisJ' de Jong
Chris 'chrisJ' de Jong
Age:
28
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.04
Maps played:
1325
KPR:
0.70
DPR:
0.66
APR:
0.11
Denmark Andreas 'Xyp9x' Højsleth
Andreas 'Xyp9x' Højsleth
Age:
23
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.04
Maps played:
1470
KPR:
0.68
DPR:
0.61
APR:
0.17
United States Jordan 'n0thing' Gilbert
Jordan 'n0thing' Gilbert
Age:
28
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.02
Maps played:
787
KPR:
0.70
DPR:
0.67
APR:
0.15
United States Tarik 'tarik' Celik
Tarik 'tarik' Celik
Age:
23
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.07
Maps played:
1022
KPR:
0.74
DPR:
0.67
APR:
0.15
gonna be a shitshow
2018-06-29 17:22
#4
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Netherlands Deji 
Dont edit or pussy
2018-06-29 17:22
u big mad or lil mad
2018-06-29 17:23
#53
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Austria shaakeh 
big expected
2018-06-29 17:28
#72
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Palestine zwe 
Expected
2018-06-29 17:32
ChrisSexyJ
2018-06-29 17:33
#91
ropz | 
Estonia Vexil 
expected
2018-06-29 17:39
#206
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Netherlands HetIsPatat 
NBK LUL
2018-06-29 23:00
my reaction exactly lol
2018-06-30 18:08
#262
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United States tediousmcgee 
He's stuck on an 800,000$ buyout being one of the most sought after players, of course he's gonna get on the board for a players rights association
2018-07-01 07:53
expected
2018-06-29 17:22
#18
M | 
Sweden Unluko 
nice
2018-06-29 17:23
> n0thing > proffesional
2018-07-01 12:01
from brasil and dont support mibr?
2018-07-04 19:01
fakeflagging, dont mind the kid.
2018-07-05 23:12
"proffesional" not even funny if you're fakeflagging or trolling cringe kid
2018-07-10 01:31
#29
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United States ldKuKluxKlan 
agreed also congrats on 1st
2018-06-29 17:24
#58
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Czech Republic _s0 
cya in 10 years
2018-06-29 17:29
#109
NiKo | 
France Dealotts 
cya
2018-06-29 17:49
#138
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Brazil tdurante 
Unions are never, NEVER, a good thing. Sorry to see Taco involved.
2018-06-29 19:00
It is for the players, not the orgs
2018-06-29 19:05
#146
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Australia KARMAAAYT 
Still bad, unions consolidate power of some players against others. Imagine trying to kick a player on the board now, they can easily screw negotiations for your org or team later on out of salt.
2018-06-29 19:14
#227
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United Kingdom INGEMARSSON_ 
Doesnt work like that
2018-06-30 02:57
That would only happen if the players act like a child. CS should be beyond that at this point.
2018-06-30 08:32
#249
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Australia KARMAAAYT 
You say that but remember people do more petty things for less concerning things.
2018-06-30 16:23
#256
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Canada _Dark__ 
you'll prove it or i'll...
2018-06-30 23:02
Key word in your post is "should". Its cs, so you never know. In theory all is well and good, but it might bring some politics to the table that where not there before
2018-07-05 06:53
Imagine losing your job without any heads up after a few events where you underperformance. And read up about unions
2018-07-09 05:04
#145
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Denmark [OLD2]Larsen 
Plz tell us why unions is a bad thing?
2018-06-29 19:13
#161
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United States jaeger_steam 
Ive been apart of, and then in a supervisory role over people in a union. At least in the US, the general consensus is that they care more about membership numbers and membership fees than the actual members themselves. Its not every union, but seems to be a lot of them. They make the job harder for everyone involved and often dont even provide the services to the members that they are supposed to. We only recently just started being able to even opt out of membership if the job is part of a union, before it was mandatory. I know they started out as a hugely beneficial thing for workers, but they seem to have been left to run wild in the US, and ar shady if not downright corrupt now.
2018-06-29 19:39
#164
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Vietnam rollofocker 
+1 same in some parts of europe. they just strike and fuck every body else. they can't handle power in general. this will start out with the best intention i hope the power doesn't go to their head. as long as the power is decentralized in a board wide enough it should be okay though. as long as they stick to their legal advice it's more than okay. once there will be an acting president with all the power and when they will pose deadlines it will go to shit level pretty rapidly i suppose.
2018-06-29 19:52
things like that always end in corruption sooner or later
2018-06-29 20:02
#238
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Denmark MeToxi 
Maybe in brazil. Luckily this union isn't based on brazillian ideas.
2018-06-30 12:22
yeah mr naive and super evolved human being from europe.
2018-06-30 16:15
friend, the danish guy is right hahahaha, sorry but it's true
2018-06-30 21:01
#267
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United States lumpy seal 
lol
2018-07-01 09:20
We have lots of unions in Norway as well, and they are not corrupt. I would assume the same goes for Denmark.
2018-07-06 18:29
i'm not talking about union, i'm talking about a small group representing a big group. Ofc it depends if they hear everyone, but i can't see a group that was not choosen by the players and is representing them to be trustable.
2018-07-06 20:58
The best example you can see that our country is fucked up. Treating corruption as a commom thing.
2018-07-02 05:21
Denmark is built on unions...
2018-06-29 20:25
#191
k0nfig | 
Denmark nalleB 
Good thing this has nothing to do with the US and its broken systems. This is an offspring from a major Danish union, and unions work great here. A big reason might be that corruption here is limited in general.
2018-06-29 21:05
#196
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United States jaeger_steam 
I was more just talking in general terms responding to the question of how unions could be bad. if they are inherently better in denmark than thats definitely a good thing
2018-06-29 21:23
#197
k0nfig | 
Denmark nalleB 
I don't think the US is a good example to determine whether unions are a good or a bad thing in general, but alright.
2018-06-29 21:23
#199
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United States jaeger_steam 
Lol dude chill out with the anti america shit, others have said its a problem too. Im glad its not where you are from, but it is in at least some other places
2018-06-29 21:42
#203
k0nfig | 
Denmark nalleB 
I don't have some "anti america" bias, I'm just being realistic. Most Americans have a tendency to think that the system either works the same or worse in Europe, which is far from the truth. Comparing American system can be fine, but in this case I just don't see how it makes any sense.
2018-06-29 22:33
Saying americans have tendency to do something is already AntiAmerica.
2018-07-02 05:23
#287
k0nfig | 
Denmark nalleB 
No, I'm generalizing. Not the same. I have a problem with that particular thing, but I have similar points of view with other nations, including my own. Hereby, not a biased viewpoint.
2018-07-02 08:21
#216
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Denmark [OLD2]Larsen 
Maybe you have been doing it the wrong way so far then? Unions in Denmark has worked great for the most time, and making sure that the distribution of wealth is more fair. We get pay even when we are call in sick free maternity leave Severals weeks a year paid education (the state also provide Education and even pay the studens when they study). 6 Weeks paid holidays every year and a lot more. USA is in my point of view one of the worst places, where the employees are payed very low wages, and some has to have 2 jobs in order to pay the bills. the rich get richer, and the poor can work them self to death, thats not fair im point of view.
2018-06-29 23:49
#268
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United States lumpy seal 
I think it's more that our rich are greedier shitbags than in Europe. Some people in our country think the "Fuck everyone else, I'm the only one that matters" is a cool and admirable attitude. Probably going to be our greatest downfall.
2018-07-01 09:24
#273
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Denmark [OLD2]Larsen 
Perhaps your right, i do belive the big problems USA has with crime, is partly because of the big difference between rich and poor. Changes need to come from the government it self, but im not seeing that happen as long Trump is in charge. To bad Bernie Sanders didn't get elected, i believe he could do wonders for the poor people in USA. Liberalism/Capitalism is not a bad thing, but it has to be controlled so the big players cant control everything
2018-07-01 14:25
#266
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Europe tweekzter 
Like most left policies. Seem to be good, but don't work cause people are egoists.
2018-07-01 09:16
#294
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Finland v3tu 
In Finland, unions have way too much power and they have pretty much ruined everything. The unions' strong figures lobby politics that make entrepreneurship so fucking hard and the cost of labor is way too high. In Finland the collective labour agreements define way bigger minimum wages on some sectors than they should be.
2018-07-02 21:31
Expected from 3rd worlder
2018-06-29 19:21
#182
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Brazil tdurante 
As American as you, my friend.
2018-06-29 20:21
Oh, so your retardation has no excuse then.
2018-06-29 20:22
#185
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Brazil tdurante 
yeah, yeah... Unions are a good thing now... LOL
2018-06-29 20:26
#192
k0nfig | 
Denmark nalleB 
Maybe not in the corrupt 3rd world...
2018-06-29 21:05
#219
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Brazil tdurante 
All unions are corrupt. Don't believe in lies.
2018-06-30 00:33
#220
k0nfig | 
Denmark nalleB 
A thief believes everybody steals. -E.W. Howe
2018-06-30 01:19
#269
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United States lumpy seal 
got heem
2018-07-01 09:24
#152
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Other 1Faren 
no
2018-06-29 19:18
#258
fer | 
Brazil lordsawm 
+1
2018-07-01 03:15
mad cause faze not good enough to have a player be a part of it and also place 2nd at big tourneys
2018-07-03 11:24
#313
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United States FlagMaster 
Better than nothing
2018-07-07 17:42
#320
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United States Grabboid 
Ministry of truth 2.0
2018-07-09 08:00
#2
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Netherlands Deji 
Skkr
2018-06-29 17:22
Reported
2018-06-29 17:29
Mibr
2018-06-29 17:29
#102
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Netherlands Deji 
I wanted to type skkrt
2018-06-29 17:42
why tho
2018-06-29 17:25
#23
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Turkey Hayw1re 
Niceeeee
2018-06-29 17:23
Retard or trolling?
2018-06-29 17:30
Idiot or yes?
2018-06-29 17:41
both
2018-06-29 18:40
Very fair answer, amigo
2018-06-29 19:33
Example : Your best team (SS) earn 500$/monthly while rest of the pro players salaries are 15k$+
2018-06-29 18:39
who cares lol i dont like ss
2018-06-29 19:16
#153
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Other 1Faren 
this is why HLTV sux
2018-06-29 19:19
Sigh.
2018-06-30 08:35
sad, but expected from average HLTV user
2018-06-30 19:04
that made me laugh for not crying
2018-07-02 05:25
#168
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Vietnam rollofocker 
you can't really change the nature of advertising/sponsorship. you can't force SS to pay their players more salary if the brand is not popular enough to attract more sponsorship. btw if they live in turkey 500$/month is probably more than enough to make a living. if high salary is important for you you should have studied economics x)
2018-06-29 19:56
This x1000. If you don't like your pay so much, don't sign the contract.
2018-07-01 13:42
Name checks out.
2018-07-02 14:49
+500 but not every 20y old mental kid on hltv will understand..
2018-07-05 23:14
ok
2018-06-29 17:22
#6
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Sri Lanka SmalLoan 
cool
2018-06-29 17:22
#8
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Europe b7ack0ut 
wow
2018-06-29 17:22
#9
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Italy Er1cz 
Nice
2018-06-29 17:22
#10
byali | 
Poland BYALl 
questionmark
2018-06-29 17:23
Jhg
2018-06-29 17:22
#13
TACO | 
Finland sunnahh 
Expected
2018-06-29 17:23
#14
NiKo | 
Austria Phil_1337 
xd
2018-06-29 17:23
interesting
2018-06-29 17:23
#16
ayaya | 
Ireland skend 
PogChamp
2018-06-29 17:23
Good news!
2018-06-29 17:23
#19
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Finland EdiEz 
cool
2018-06-29 17:23
#21
2018-06-29 17:23
#25
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Bulgaria Pixeland 
+1
2018-06-29 17:24
#98
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Pakistan MeMeMeisteR2 
+100000 200iq
2018-06-29 17:41
#21
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Bulgaria Pixeland 
suka
2018-06-29 17:23
#22
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Portugal Joefilas 
Ok daddy
2018-06-29 17:23
Good girl
2018-06-29 17:41
1st mission-Unban Swag
2018-06-29 17:24
#36
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United States ldKuKluxKlan 
haHAA
2018-06-29 17:24
#81
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Slovakia twat 
If you want to unban swag you have to unban the whole ibp, not just him
2018-06-29 17:35
#120
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United States NT_Skadoodle 
not like any of the other ibp players are gonna be playing at a top level anyway
2018-06-29 18:21
Swag isnt anywhere near that level either
2018-06-29 18:58
swag not even best ex-ibp player
2018-06-29 19:00
nice jk
2018-06-29 19:46
#243
2018-06-30 15:00
Yeah steel outperformed him most of the time in torqued whilst igling
2018-06-30 15:00
+1
2018-07-01 01:41
#143
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Slovakia twat 
You are saying that like swag would lol, either way you can't unban swag and not unban the others
2018-06-29 19:10
Steel > Swag rn
2018-06-29 19:17
Steel is genuinely the only guy on that team I can see coming back and being a tier 1-3 igl/fragger
2018-06-30 15:01
So you watched "The swag criminal" video and think that means hes the best. He is not even a top 200 player in the world right now, steel is 10x better
2018-06-30 15:02
coolio
2018-06-29 17:24
#27
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Turkey devriyeL 
Expected af
2018-06-29 17:24
Expected
2018-06-29 17:24
#30
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United Kingdom KemNG 
Trade union huh
2018-06-29 17:24
I expect a players revolution and then cs communism
2018-06-29 17:24
And finally they'll be playing for food and for not being shoot in head, instead of getting those fucking capitalism money
2018-06-29 17:42
yos!
2018-06-29 18:25
Cs taken away from gaben due to lack of support
2018-06-29 17:51
#193
k0nfig | 
Denmark nalleB 
Maybe they will need financial aid from Germany
2018-06-29 21:09
Viva La Revolucion!
2018-07-02 05:27
Good luck
2018-06-29 17:24
ez
2018-06-29 17:24
#122
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Moldova HLTV_Moldova 
is that u in the photo?
2018-06-29 18:22
yes.. do i look sexy?
2018-06-29 18:24
#134
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Moldova HLTV_Moldova 
pretty good
2018-06-29 18:49
#35
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Europe SQXZAF 
wh9o?
2018-06-29 17:24
#37
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France Teellioz 
what ?
2018-06-29 17:24
#38
Latvia kjyy 
good move.
2018-06-29 17:24
Although they have separate nationalities, it would make more sense to have a limit to 1 representant a team.
2018-06-29 17:25
#64
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Denmark Poopoohead123 
Agree its kinda weird seeing 3 americans while theres theres one of everyone else. Also needs swedIsh and cos representative ex xizt and zeus
2018-06-29 17:31
2 me nationalities are no issue, teams are.
2018-06-29 17:33
Europe has an area of about 6.326 million kilometers squared, and the US has an area of about 6.111 million kilometers squared. It seems weird, but 3 from the US and 3 from the EU isn't that bad given how big the US is compared to the many smaller countries that make up the EU
2018-06-30 06:18
land mass isn't really the question though either. population, density and the general establishment of esport competition should be the main factors in a representative institution like this. but at long as the members are okay with them, the board doesn't have to be demographically, (inter)nationally or in any other way representative of the members in order to be able to act in the group's best interest.
2018-07-01 07:39
#318
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Norway Joe_Caseus 
#230 Why are there no Russian and Australian players then? Use your brain.
2018-07-09 03:22
#40
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Sweden pontus767 
Nice, now FUCK WESA
2018-06-29 17:25
Very cool!
2018-06-29 17:25
#42
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United States consoleee_ 
Progress
2018-06-29 17:25
#43
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Asia BodeFuceta 
What a joke.
2018-06-29 17:25
Ur from Japan, ur opinion is irrelevant
2018-06-29 21:22
I can guarantee you that he is Brazillian
2018-07-02 05:28
#296
fer | 
Brazil 647 
+1 Bode = animal Fuceta = expression like saying pu$$y mixed with other word
2018-07-03 05:16
Tried to expalin the obvious and failed. Switch positions between B and F.
2018-07-18 07:25
#331
fer | 
Brazil 647 
nice try chopperia
2018-07-19 05:28
UNITED NATIONS OF CSGO
2018-06-29 17:25
#297
fer | 
Brazil 647 
Hahahahahahaha +++111111
2018-07-03 05:17
Expected
2018-06-29 17:25
#46
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United States Err0h 
Esports continously evolving. Nice.
2018-06-29 17:25
#55
Striker | 
Germany lynni 
*devolving
2018-06-29 17:28
Explain yourself
2018-06-29 17:52
He's german Explained
2018-06-29 19:38
Unexpected. Germans are usualy smart and reasonable.
2018-06-29 20:18
not the ones at hltv
2018-06-29 21:50
German teams used to be good in CS (mouz, mTw, aTTaX, n!faculty, etc. - even SK was founded by Germans before importing NiP lineup) and they all went international because Germany can only win for a little while before being crushed by the rest of the world again. That's why Germans act all butt-hurt about Esport devolving (or any other sport for that matter) -- although, to be fair, it would be a legitimate criticism considering the ESL thought it was a great business idea to move a huge, young viewer base from Twitch/Youtube over to the universally hated Facebook website, which is now pretty much just a place for grandparents to find their adult children and other relatives. It would be the equivalent of selling exclusive broadcasting rights of CS 1.6 tournaments to MySpace in 2010. So I'm not sure what to call that. It might be one step forward, two steps back, or the other way around. We'll see..
2018-07-01 08:21
#298
fer | 
Brazil 647 
-1 for blablabla
2018-07-03 05:17
Why is such garbage as Nothing in there Lmao.
2018-06-29 17:25
He is very experienced
2018-06-29 17:28
experienced garbage
2018-06-29 18:15
Rather have experienced garbage than inexperienced non-garbage
2018-06-29 19:09
#173
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Korea AlexeS5386 
+1
2018-06-29 20:08
ITS FOR CONTENT
2018-06-29 17:26
#49
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Brazil VAC0 
it should have at least one swedish and one ukrainian. for example zeus and get_right
2018-06-29 17:27
#76
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Brazil wittyusername 
You can't make people volunteer though...
2018-06-29 17:33
#50
KRIMZ | 
Denmark slacking 
commy scum
2018-06-29 17:27
#52
EliGE | 
United States mehrfth 
while I think there should be more nationalities on the board (at least 1 from each major region) , this is an awesome move for CS and players’ rights love seein my boys EliGE and TACO on the board
2018-06-29 17:28
#65
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Denmark MeToxi 
As I understood it, this current board has to agree on a new board within the next year, so still possible ;)
2018-06-29 17:31
#77
EliGE | 
United States mehrfth 
would be best to have a Swede and a Ruski/Ukrainian on the board. Don’t understand why people are so upset though, this is a demonstrably good thing
2018-06-29 17:33
#85
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Denmark MeToxi 
Yeah. Its also an incredibly danish/scandinavian thing to do. Not saying that it doesn't happen in other places. EDIT: Correction. Look #96.
2018-06-29 17:42
#96
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Denmark MeToxi 
So its the members who choose the next board. Makes more sense. I don't get people saying that there should be different nationalities on the board since i just remembered that this has nothing to do with viewers or nationalities.
2018-06-29 17:41
#205
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Portugal EddyParera 
But it gains in range of opinions or ways to look at a certain topic... However, it's great to have this and they listen to players from tier 1 to tier infinite, pro or semi-pro... all focusing the health and growth of the csgo pro scene.
2018-06-29 22:45
How is your boy Elige will protect other players and speak some unpleasant to tournament organizers things, if he event can't talk to his team normally. That's a joke to put him on public position
2018-06-29 17:36
#88
EliGE | 
United States mehrfth 
You’re using info from like late 2016? EliGE worked with a sports psychologist all through 2017 and by all accounts he is much more open. Do you really think he would’ve taken a position on the board if he thought he couldn’t handle it?
2018-06-29 17:38
> He thinks he can handle it > He really can handle it Two completely different things. Remember this post - Elige will do nothing there, maybe just complaining about other board members lol
2018-06-29 17:40
#101
EliGE | 
United States mehrfth 
Also, like the post says, this board is to either cement the position or elect new positions on to the board. I don’t get why you’re so negative, this is undoubtedly a good thing for the scene.
2018-06-29 17:42
#169
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Vietnam rollofocker 
there are plenty more things that can make you an asset to an organization rather than verbal communication. there are spokespeople for that job. an organization works with specialization and he probably has qualities to bring to the table otherwise he would not be allowed in the inner circle. in any case if what you say is true he will be booted within the year. i just can't grasp how you would judge a person his performance in an organization based on verbal communication with his team.
2018-06-29 20:01
+1 Those 13 y.o have no idea how a board works hahah Thanks for the enlightening input
2018-07-18 07:29
#54
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Poland Aloes 
How to join ?
2018-06-29 17:28
#60
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Norway AleXeiCS 
Biggest CS team with 90 players in server
2018-06-29 17:29
#63
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Ukraine niXoN|w1 
Am I the only one who doesn't get the point of this?
2018-06-29 17:31
#69
Sadokist | 
Poland tr1xx 
nope
2018-06-29 17:32
#71
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Denmark MeToxi 
Its to ensure that players dont get buttfucked by orgs.
2018-06-29 17:32
#107
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Ukraine niXoN|w1 
How are they gonna do that?
2018-06-29 17:48
Abusive contracts
2018-06-29 17:54
#114
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Ukraine niXoN|w1 
No, I mean how are they going to stop it?
2018-06-29 17:56
By providing assistence, people to read the contracts and point out things that are abusive/wrong or missing. Thats prob more but this is the only example that came to my mind rn
2018-06-29 18:24
#171
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Vietnam rollofocker 
+1 to provide experienced lawyers within the e-sports field. this was no doubt a huge niche and now this association will provide that know-how for players. just i hope the power doesn't corrupt the organization.
2018-06-29 20:03
#194
k0nfig | 
Denmark nalleB 
They can implement legal strikes, lock-outs and boycotts. They will also take the employers to court.
2018-06-29 21:18
#66
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Indonesia Not_A_Carry 
For those who complain "it will be a shit show" or just trolling, remember that these kind of organization that make CSGO one of the big esport title and maybe this will spearheaded the future of esport, either the player itself or the teams that compete at elite level of CSGO, maybe we will see a female teams at CSGO majors that can compete with best team in the world
2018-06-29 17:31
I agree with you, this is a good move! All sports have a federation or association and this is just as important.
2018-06-29 19:54
#67
Sadokist | 
Poland tr1xx 
two of whom were in the HLTV Top 20 XDDDDDDDDDDDDD
2018-06-29 17:31
#68
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Sweden Tunggren 
wat
2018-06-29 17:31
#70
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Romania fluxz0r 
n0thing the retired washed up pro? why him xDDD
2018-06-29 17:32
#80
EliGE | 
United States mehrfth 
been playing professional CS longer than any of those guys
2018-06-29 17:34
#89
jks | 
Australia Mosski 
Obviously because he's experienced in the scene
2018-06-29 17:39
#215
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Denmark aCggg 
Well played retard
2018-06-29 23:49
Good.
2018-06-29 17:32
#74
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Portugal ItsAvenn 
i want join , im pro player
2018-06-29 17:33
nice
2018-06-29 17:33
Another association to do nothing. Amazingly they also got half from NA, people who know nothing about esports. Wondering how person like Elige will speak aloud something to protect players, when he can't event talk to his team Shitshow confirmed
2018-06-29 17:35
No Russians or Chinese on the board...NATO of CSGO...only killer nations in it (ofc 3 Amis leading the charge)
2018-06-29 17:35
#87
NBK- | 
Estonia BlameS 
Scoots is a bitch.
2018-06-29 17:37
#90
EliGE | 
United States mehrfth 
Scoots is a god fuck u
2018-06-29 17:39
#141
NBK- | 
Estonia BlameS 
Scoots sucks dicks, fucking SJW.
2018-06-29 19:06
scoots is a fucking baller, doesn't take shit from anybody and doesnt care what anyone else things opposite of SJW, learn your shit newfag
2018-06-29 20:14
Expected
2018-06-29 17:39
#93
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Poland GeeeRo 
Like 5 years too late
2018-06-29 17:39
#148
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Finland Smoonah 
deaded game
2018-06-29 19:15
#299
fer | 
Brazil 647 
N1 english tbh
2018-07-03 05:20
#301
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Finland Smoonah 
kiitos
2018-07-03 08:30
#95
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Sweden Akoulad 
What a joke!
2018-06-29 17:41
#99
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Malta tomkok1 
Expected
2018-06-29 17:41
strike! strike! strike!
2018-06-29 17:45
#105
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Turkey TheSench 
Nice expected
2018-06-29 17:46
First!!! Oh wait i am #100 Fuck #106* Rip
2018-06-29 17:50
They are expecting tournament prize money and salaries to go to shit, so they form a fucking union...
2018-06-29 17:49
#113
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Bolivia Luchingador 
e z tier 1 team
2018-06-29 17:56
#115
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Australia JulienD 
EZ4ENCE
2018-06-29 17:58
Finally. This will be great in prevent the outrageous buyouts that some teams have set, and make it so players won't get screwed in contract signings. A step in the right direction.
2018-06-29 18:05
#117
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Denmark Baitvice 
Who decides what is an outrageous buyout? If i think a player like NiKo is worth 500k i am gonna set that buyout, because that is how much i value him.
2018-06-29 18:09
Niko has to agree to his buyout as part of his contract, I.E. the union lawyer will now advise Niko on what is a reasonable buyout.
2018-06-29 20:19
#189
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Denmark Baitvice 
"I.E. the union lawyer will now advise Niko on what is a reasonable buyout". Why should an union lawyer define what is a "reasonable buyout". The lawyer can simply give a biased lower number than what the player is really worth, just so the player can easily leave whenever he wants and then i as an org get screwed. We need a transfer window, where orgs can approach other orgs about players, and the orgs decide the transfer price NOT anyone else. A player should only agree or not for a release clause on his contract, nothing else.
2018-06-29 20:46
A contract has many aspects. A player has to agree to a buyout and pay. The org can increase the players pay if they want to get the player to agree to a high buyout. The lawyer will advise the players on whether their buyout is good or bad for the terms of the contract they are agreeing too.
2018-06-29 22:40
#207
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Denmark Baitvice 
The buyout shouldn't even matter to the player. If you're concerned about being stuck in a contract, you can negotiate the length of your contract. When Ronaldo signed for Real Madrid, he didn't agree to a buyout, he agreed to the length and his wages. The club decides about your buyout. The club/org provides your salary, gives you a platform, and in the case of sports they provide their medical staff, training facilities and a lot of other things. And they have the right to decide the amount of the transfer fee, not the player. As i said the player should only negotiate a release clause.
2018-06-29 23:08
With the rapid turnover in the pro counter strike scene. Buyouts are incredibly important. Buyouts allow a player to change teams. What happens if once you sign a contract with a team you realize you would rather play with someone else? What if a bigger and better team comes offering with more money? It should be the player deciding where they want to play, and nobody can see the future, hence the need for a buyout clause. Also a buyout clause and a release clause are the same thing. Funny you should mention Ronaldo, as his buyout clause was just lowered to a reasonable price today.
2018-06-30 01:43
It sbeyond comparison that they are giving board position to people like so young like Taco and internet trolls like Tarik and not including even 1 Experienced players who have spent atleast 5 years in playing CS except n0thing of course.
2018-06-29 18:10
#132
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United States LJPixels 
I agree. I would imagine that as it grows they will be pulling a wide variety of veteran representatives from each region rather than random individuals who lack experience.
2018-06-29 18:46
#210
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Denmark MeToxi 
But it's not just "random individuals", it's 7 players who've speerheaded the creation of this player association. How does it make any sense that a player that had no part in creating the player association should be a board founder?
2018-06-29 23:33
#139
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World bigb1rd 
Agreed. The do have n0thing who has a shit load of experience but obviously would seem sensible to have f0rest, fallen, NEO, Ex6tenz, Markeloff, maybe even solo/glow etc
2018-06-29 19:05
#211
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Denmark MeToxi 
But those players most likely didn't even help creating the player association?!? It is not even guaranteed that they've entered the union. Even if they're members, why should they be called founders when they did nothing to create the damn thing.
2018-06-29 23:34
+1
2018-06-29 19:56
Outrageous actually CS set the precedents so high for organizations... they dont know anything about business. Its bullshit teams paying 5k or 6k plus having to share 80% of the prize pools with the players leaving the orgs without any money for their operations...
2018-06-29 18:21
#213
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Denmark MeToxi 
I know how to fix this. They just need to create balance. The orgs need to be represented by something like "eSport Employers Association"
2018-06-29 23:38
Dafaq is Elige doing there? Someone who goes passive aggressive when something bad happens, surely will do well as head of a board member
2018-06-29 18:23
He is very smart (top of his class in school), but you are right, he wouldn't be my first pick to put on the board. Hopefully he has matured in the past few years
2018-06-29 20:19
Tarik? TF?
2018-06-29 18:26
rly...
2018-06-29 18:36
#133
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Brazil CaioOlive 
At least, with TACO there, they will have an excuse for everything they do.
2018-06-29 18:46
lol
2018-06-30 21:59
#135
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Hungary saxxo 
Seems like another thing where the parties can some money pull out, under the name of "we are supporting the players and the clean esport". Just like in traditional sports...
2018-06-29 18:56
#214
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Denmark MeToxi 
Just because Hungary is corrupt, it doesn't mean that everyone else is.
2018-06-29 23:39
#232
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Hungary saxxo 
Not because of that, but if yout think there is corruption only in middle and eastern europe you are really-really blind and ... I dont know why people would like to show off their superiority, but Denmark has also their own corruption. Deal with it. Everybody cares only about the money. Including wester europe. And Denmark. It is that simple.
2018-06-30 07:08
#237
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Denmark MeToxi 
And yet Denmark is continiously ranked as one of the least corrupt countries in the world. Ofc i know that corruption exists everywhere, i just hate when people like you instantly dooms a project to corruption just because you dont realize that it dont exists in the same amount in other countries.
2018-06-30 12:06
#239
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Hungary saxxo 
Ok kido, live in your imagination, and lets hate the others:) Denmark is the no1 and everything is fine. Btw I really dont understand why did you pull my nationality in it. Whats the point of it? Never mind, you are right and sry.
2018-06-30 13:00
#240
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Denmark MeToxi 
Im sorry if I seem hostile. Thats just my new standard approach to hltv cuz, lots of idiot baiters. The reason i mention nationality is that it usually have a pretty big impact on how you percieve the world around you. Im from Denmark which is why im so excited for a union like this since its pretty much what builds our work environment. And it just works in Denmark. We dont see much corruption in Denmark either which is because of our ideas. I dont know much from hungary tbh so i'll stop pretending that i do.
2018-06-30 13:16
#242
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Hungary saxxo 
Wow, that was the real surprise. I thought you are a stupid kid. Sry for this. Your last comment proves the opposite. So, you was right about the corruption part. I love Hungary, but the truth is always hurt. And beside this, the political situation is also horrible here. In spite of this, I think this Association will not make useful works and the only goal is to get more money from esport, which is bothering me. I really hope, that I am wrong.
2018-06-30 14:24
#144
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Turkey tastemycobra 
Fukin commies
2018-06-29 19:12
#147
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Finland Smoonah 
needs better anti cheat
2018-06-29 19:14
So while most of you in here are complaining about the board members representing the game, I'm more concerned with the fact that Mads Øland is in charge of this. That man was single handed the reason behind DBU (Danmarks Boldspil Union, the top football association in Denmark) nearly getting a 4 year suspension from UEFA tourmanents (a suspended sentence was given), because he rigidly demanded, during the 2017 negotiations, that a national team should offer the selected players, the same terms as a work-giver gives his/hers employees - which makes no sense, at all, as no national team in the world is offering this, and you can, at all times, decline the invitation as a selected player for a national team. As the "employment" is very short and temporary, you usually only get a commission (and potentially some agreed bonuses). He even managed to lobby the cause for the discrepancy between the player's union and DBU, to be because of a mere ~100k dollars, when this was complete bullshit. To fully understand the ramifications of this (if the demands were to be met), DBU would've been forced to pay e.g. maternal leave; despite the fact, that DBU only temporarily employs the players for e.g. a qualification game, or a playoff, or an international friendly game. While I understand he's "fighting the player's cause", he's also well known to be an ass-hat, who will make far fetched demands that ultimately hurts the players. He just knows how to sway the players to be on his side. Don't be surprised if some major lock-out and/or conflict will break out in the following years. He's well known to love the drama, and be the front-runner in the following media-shit-show.
2018-06-29 19:17
#159
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Serbia NEXIXOX 
so this organisation won't have long career :D
2018-06-29 19:36
Maybe, maybe not. Depends how much the organizations employing the players are willing to play Øland's game. I personally think it depends how many players, on an international level, joins this organization, short-term (as in, the next few months). Don't get me wrong, I think a union is very important for any type of occupational group. Both on international level, as well as national/local level. My only thorn is Øland being appointed to a leading role. I don't think he serves the player's best interests (even though he might believe so himself).
2018-06-29 20:26
#279
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Serbia NEXIXOX 
As I could understand from Ur words this guy is more a businessman than an actual 'goodforallman' . I think this can be great thing for esports, but with the right people and with the right guidance. Thank You for detailed info, Cheers.
2018-07-02 00:38
gl Scoots!
2018-06-29 19:26
nkry onboard?
2018-06-29 19:47
-taco -elige -tarik +Fallen +Get_right +Taz
2018-06-29 19:55
TaZ?
2018-06-29 20:29
Wtf are these players? Tarik, nothing, TACO rofl
2018-06-29 20:04
Way to be Scoots! Keep up the good work! Really hope that this develops into a standard for the scene.
2018-06-29 20:10
#175
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Vietnam rollofocker 
i hope the board members know exactly what they hope to achieve with this organization and compare that with other board members and make a front against the CEO. remember those values and think about the players. don't let the de facto power slip to the president because of rhetoric manipulation.
2018-06-29 20:13
nbk tfu
2018-06-29 20:16
Nerd Association
2018-06-29 20:20
Nerd Association
2018-06-29 20:30
#190
k0nfig | 
Denmark nalleB 
Great personalities behind the association, I have faith in this project.
2018-06-29 20:57
#198
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United States Acetk 
Can't wait for richard lewis to report on this.
2018-06-29 21:24
Lmao Botaco to take the decisions, it will be a total Zoo
2018-06-29 22:00
#202
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Poland Spectra_CS 
but wtf is this for
2018-06-29 22:26
RIP Pro CSGO, greed and lawyers always ruin everything
2018-06-29 23:09
#209
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Ireland leoNjf 
-tarik -n0thing if that was a team it would be top 5 support-xyp9x entry-taco rifler-elige lurker-nbk awp and igl-chrisj
2018-06-29 23:29
taco entry? lol even n0thing and tarik are better
2018-07-01 08:28
#217
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Armenia 1915 
Turok wins major and now thinks hes big brain enough to run this association
2018-06-30 00:00
lol would expect guys like Fallen Karrigan and Glave to be there and not Taco..
2018-06-30 00:04
nice to see e-sport becomming more serious
2018-06-30 01:26
More lans pls
2018-06-30 02:18
#225
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France StickyRice 
Great list of players in those 7
2018-06-30 02:32
Elige looks like a cracked out monkey-smeagol hybrid lmfao.
2018-06-30 02:52
#228
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United States Trump2020KAG 
elige top5 2018
2018-06-30 02:59
#229
shaGuar | 
United States brieN 
another one bites the dust
2018-06-30 04:01
no asia ?
2018-06-30 07:04
#290
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United States ph3n0m3n 
>asia >human rights pick one
2018-07-02 11:12
-tarik -elige +zeus +gob b +flusha +adren
2018-06-30 08:02
Looks like a solid tier 1.5 team. Good luck!
2018-06-30 11:39
hahahaa Imagine thinking a guy like Taco could be intellectually equipped to be a board member for a players union. This is doomed from day 0.
2018-06-30 13:38
#247
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United States arandomguy 
I see a lot of hate comments for tarik, elige and TACO. First of all, This association is not based on what they achieved in Game or about the skills they possess. These guys volunteered for this project. If you guys want to see your big guys like Olof or fallens they should have volunteered for this project instead of sitting in their shit hole doing nothing. Once again these guys don't have high skillset but they do have great personality to run this community
2018-06-30 15:06
Why tarik? That arrogant asshole
2018-06-30 19:11
Lets see how long it takes before it gets corrupt..
2018-06-30 20:39
why? The games peak was over like 2 years ago and only going downhill. An association can only exist if the game exists and players are wanted. Tournament organizers and pro teams can switch to another game and won't give in to this
2018-07-01 06:24
lol exactly ded game
2018-07-08 22:13
union is a really cool word tbh unrelated to article
2018-07-01 07:16
#316
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Turkey Yarrak 
I prefer onion
2018-07-08 18:51
#265
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Russia andryeezy 
3 of 7 from NA OMEGALUL
2018-07-01 09:13
#270
fer | 
Russia Orz 
haha
2018-07-01 10:48
Neat.
2018-07-01 15:55
No CIS and Swedish players? I think, they are kidding
2018-07-01 19:30
Why do they need swedish representation. I agree it would have been good to have CIS reps but why swedish?
2018-07-01 19:34
cuz Sweden it's TRUE cs country like Brazil in football
2018-07-01 19:50
3 na players yeah sure bllsht
2018-07-02 04:13
#286
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Macedonia ydjoon 
NBK will kick you out of the association. LOL
2018-07-02 07:37
#292
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United States Will767 
Nice CS #eSports association :)
2018-07-02 19:13
#293
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Brazil waveeee 
i wonder why fallen is not one of this seven?
2018-07-02 20:34
Gabriel "TwoFaced" Toledo is smart enough to not be involved in this cluster****
2018-07-06 06:25
#295
HUNDEN | 
Denmark Jehova 
why is peanut on, doesn't he get fucked by his contract
2018-07-03 02:49
I dont understand the need for this. Why not have agents like other professional organizations? Also why not just pay teams a flat salary within a league so they have to play hard to win prize money rather then suck up 10 or 15k to not even make it out of groups over and over cough nip. Give them all 5k and earn bonuses from hitting semi final grand final etc.
2018-07-06 18:51
n0thing = professional? xD
2018-07-08 08:09
#327
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Brazil Kouster 
Taco <3
2018-07-15 02:45
LOL
2018-07-18 08:47
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