FACEIT's Michele Attisani: "There was an article on HLTV about Buchholz and we thought it was a great improvement"

August 1st, 2018 17:30

We sat down with FACEIT co-founder and Chief Business Officer (CBO) Michele Attisani ahead of Wednesday's announcement and picked his brain on the new format.

Earlier on Wednesday, FACEIT revealed that it will be implementing the Buchholz scoring system as a seeding tool for rounds 3-5 of both Swiss stages at the Major instead of using just the teams' overall score.

By summing the scores of each of the opponents of a team, it is possible to measure the level of the opposition that team has faced and determine the next opponent based on that information, as HLTV.org's own Milan "Striker" Švejda wrote in an April feature titled "Searching for the Perfect Format",

Michele Attisani, FACEIT co-founder and Chief Business Officer (CBO)

In this interview, FACEIT's CBO reveals how the company decided to use the Buccholz system and explains the benefits of this new method. He also briefly touches on the addition of an extra day to facilitate the round 5 matches, which will feature a best-of-three format.

How did the idea of using the Buchholz system came about? Was the decision made based on feedback from teams, or was it Valve that suggested it?

We continually discuss ideas internally while keeping our ear to the ground and get feedback from various CS:GO stakeholders regarding tournament formats to ensure the highest integrity at our events. There was a great article on HLTV about the Buchholz system as we were exploring different format options and we felt this was a great improvement. We decided it was an addition that would ensure the best teams move onto the Legends and Champions Stage and Valve was equally supportive of the change.

In your opinion, what are the benefits of using this new system?

In a normal Swiss format, as the tournament progresses, the better a team performs, the harder their opponent becomes since they are matched up with other teams who have done well, while the lower scoring teams experience the opposite, they play against other lower scoring teams.

The addition of the Buchholz system adds an extra layer of seeding to the Swiss format and matches up higher scoring teams with teams that have had less challenge in their previous matchups, this ensures the best teams make it out of the Challengers and Legends Stages.

Will there be any changes to the way that the first round seeding will be done, or will the teams be split into two pools as usual?

The first two rounds seeding will be same as previous Majors. The Buchholz system ranks teams based on live results so it will not be applied until round 3 and will use results from rounds 1 and 2.

In terms of the playoffs, will the seeding stay randomised (which infamously produced an SK-Astralis quarter-final match at PGL Major Krakow) or will you be using the Buchholz for it as well?

We will use the Buchholz system as a parameter for the playoffs, with their match win/loss ratio taken into account first, followed by their Buchholz ranking to rank teams with the same amount of matches won/lost. This should avoid a repeat of the SK-Astralis quarter-final match scenario.

Adding an extra day to the Swiss stage and making the last round a bo3 will be very impactful. Did teams ask for these changes?

We strive to find the format that provides the best possible competitive integrity. We wanted to add more BO3s for critical matches while keeping the event schedule manageable, so we decided to focus the extra day we managed to squeeze in on the deciding matches for the Teams with a 2-2 match win/loss ratio.

This should add value to both the competition and the storylines to unfold in the various stages of the tournament.

Italy Federico1001 
2018-08-01 17:30
shox | 
Switzerland znon 
2018-08-01 17:32
India swast1k36 
Looks like Jason Statham
2018-08-01 17:36
it's him
2018-08-01 17:41
Looks like Lukas Podoski (In ten years mb)
2018-08-01 17:46
India swast1k36 
2018-08-01 18:04
Sweden ConaN007 
Very nice improvement, good job faceit :)
2018-08-01 18:17
Netherlands Dust2isBest 
Hltv best
2018-08-01 17:35
Lithuania Woozylul 
EZ Ego Boost
2018-08-01 17:45
Hltv flexing on the haters
2018-08-01 17:51
cyx | 
Belarus bys3l2k 
2018-08-01 17:31
shAy | 
Brazil BRhuehue 
Very good article indeed
2018-08-01 17:31
ez for MIRAA
2018-08-01 17:32
Ukraine twil 
2018-08-01 17:31
Ukraine twil 
where is #3 wtf?
2018-08-01 17:32
shox | 
Switzerland znon 
already banned
2018-08-01 17:32
Ukraine twil 
for what?
2018-08-01 17:32
Indonesia Speartuna 
Damn that’s harsh but kinda funny
2018-08-01 18:18
2018-08-01 17:31
HLTV expected
2018-08-01 17:31
Canada rdss 
major for 2 weeks ? GL GL GL
2018-08-01 17:31
Finland @g0d 
2018-08-01 17:32
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2018-08-01 17:32
it is a great improvement
2018-08-01 17:32
India rohansamal 
Ayyy, that is a fast interview
2018-08-01 17:32
2018-08-01 17:32
it'll be the best major we ever had
2018-08-01 17:32
why is hltv so good recently
2018-08-01 17:32
Never knew Jason's Statham brother worked at Faceit.
2018-08-01 17:34
Sweden pontus767 
Nice! Next step, full BO3 Swiss. Add 2 streams if needed...
2018-08-01 17:34
Malta aidsss 
It would be boring. Long match between Winstrike and Team Spirit, for example
2018-08-01 17:50
Sweden pontus767 
Still it would be fair, the major is supposed to determine the worlds best team. It's not fair having a bo1 between NaVi and Faze in a 1-2 match... And also, I said ad 2 streams if needed. That would mean you just wouldn't have to watch it. Assuming any of these teams would even go far with 2 bo3 swiss formats in a row, buccholz. This prevents bad teams from actually going far, this prevents a Spirit vs Winstrike matc in the Major group stage...
2018-08-01 17:56
Spain N0Love 
Every decider match (0-2, 2-0, 2-1, 1-2 or 2-2) should be BO3 in my opinion
2018-08-02 02:26
Malta aidsss 
Only 2 bo1 matches for each team?
2018-08-02 06:53
Sweden pontus767 
Or you could do the ESL format with 8 teams to playoffs. 8 teams/group Bo1 opening match Winners match BO3 (winner to playoffs, 2/group) Lower Bracket Quarter BO3 Lower Bracket Semi BO3 (winner to playoffs, 2/group) This would fit in 4 days on one stream and it would be a very fair format in my opinion, with 5 days you could even make the opening round a Bo3...
2018-08-02 10:25
Spain N0Love 
Why not? Longer tournament longer entertainment.
2018-08-02 22:46
Brazil kimkeid 
i know that names has a bit variation between the places around the world but, here michele is a female name.. lul so weird notice that he's a guy please, don't judge me cuz i'm brazilian
2018-08-01 17:34
2018-08-01 20:04
in Italy Michele is a normal name for a male and michelle is for female.
2018-08-01 23:30
Brazil kimkeid 
lol that's so interesting.. lift my curiosity about it, for exemple: even with the addition of one "L", the sonority change? or the rule is "if there is a man with this michele name, automatically the name is written with just one "L".. for me is weird use the same name for the two opposite sex.. i know this is something cutural but is interesting talk about it :)
2018-08-02 03:16
the female version is usually spelled with 2 L's
2018-08-02 01:08
keep stroking that ego there HLTV. Hey i once said that tarik would go to MIBR can you give me credit in a post?
2018-08-01 17:40
Indonesia Speartuna 
Ok can u tell me who will win this upcoming major?
2018-08-01 18:19
I tell you if I get the blog section baxk
2018-08-01 19:14
Germany PeKay 
Just stop the bo1 bullshit
2018-08-01 17:50
France StickyRice 
As long we NEVER comeback to that ret**ded GSL system with 4 teams and a pretty predictable outcome (you often know which team will win the group, even when the winners game is a BO1, you know which team will be eliminated in 2 games, and what will be the decider's match in most cases.) Swiss brings excitement, unpredictability, fun.
2018-08-01 17:57
Striker in a series of orgasms right now
2018-08-01 18:22
I was good idea
2018-08-01 18:34
Belgium jorneiro 
hltv patting themselves on the back lol
2018-08-01 18:35
s1mple | 
Russia foggy54 
Can anyone explain me which parameter will be used as decider for that Buchholz ranking system? Rounds win-loss against versus only teams advanced to playoff or what?
2018-08-01 18:55
NEO | 
Poland Xachariah 
Your Buchholz score are current win to lose match ratio of teams that you played summed up. If you are e.g. 2-1 and you played team that is 0-3, team that is 3-0 and team that is 1-2 you will get: (0-3) + (3-0) + (1-2) = -1. You do that for other teams in tournament and you are interested in scores of teams in 2-1 'group'. If you current score is low in this 'group' you will play teams that have high score and vice versa (no rematches still). This should help make games more fair as you can't really get only good teams or bad teams. That happens in rounds 3/4/5. Rounds 1/2 are the same as last Major as Buchholz doesn't work in 1st round (no matches played - cannot give score) and 2nd round (only 0-1, 1-0 so the Buchholz score is the same as overall score). It is also used for playoffs so the 3-0 team with the better Buchholz score will get the 3-2 team with the worst 'buchholz score'. The second 3-0 team will get the second worst 3-2 team by Buchholz score. The best 3-1 team by Buchholz score will get the best 3-2 team by Buchholz score and the last two teams with 3-1 score will play each other.
2018-08-03 14:08
Brunei S4jko 
that nice
2018-08-01 19:05
Sweden Div-\ 
Good job striker!!!
2018-08-01 19:17
nice one striker
2018-08-01 19:23
JinNy | 
Thailand fsjp 
Thank Mr. Statham.
2018-08-01 19:59
BO3's should be applied to 2-0, 2-1, 1-2 and 0-2 matches as well ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Wanna buy the best apples in HLTV? call me NOW: 011-1337-APPLE and get an 80% discount on your first 5 kilos!
2018-08-01 20:41
Canada mandydingo 
Just make the tournament like starseries i-league. It's long which will help me get more case drops. Also best team should have a good chance of winning and a fluke is super hard to pull off unlike that QBF shit last major.
2018-08-01 22:12
Striker is real deal and FACEIT knows that HLTV is always right if we're not talking about other countries, girls and racist shit. GG Striker, GG MIRAA GG HLTV
2018-08-01 22:33
China ywp175 
1-2 tied match should be bo3 too
2018-08-02 04:30
Brazil hugoooo 
Awesome! Striker gotta be proud as fúck right now, he's literally part of the CSGO history with this.
2018-08-03 05:32
way to pat yourself on the backs HLTV. well played.
2018-08-03 19:59
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