flamie: "We still want to play Dust2 because no one is playing it well"

Professeur
September 11th, 2018 20:09

With Natus Vincere's first match at the Major just around the corner, we sat down with Egor "flamie" Vasilyev to figure out what happened in Stockholm and hear how he feels in the role he has currently.

The CIS team was one of the favorites for the DreamHack Masters Stockholm trophy, but they didn't deliver at the first event after the player break, losing to North convincingly in the quarter-finals. At the Major, Natus Vincere's first opponent will be Astralis.

The system of drawing opponents for the Major is 'not good', the Russian says

During media day, we spoke to flamie to hear about Natus Vincere's approach to Dust2, his thoughts on taking on the entry fragger role, and how he has been working on his individual form.

Going back to Stockholm, in the opening game you played Ghost on Dust2 any you lost the game. But it was later said that you were just trying to get better on the map, to long-term be better on it as a team. Was that the general approach for the whole tournament, to DreamHack Masters Stockholm? To get a grasp of how you are playing and then prepare more for the Major?

I think the goal was to play as many games as we could at DreamHack Stockholm, but of course, it is a big tournament and it is a part of the Grand Slam, so we wanted to win it. But, unfortunately, we didn't have good preparation before it and we just said that we would try to play as much as we could in Stockholm to see how we are looking. Dust2 versus Ghost, yes, it was more for just training because we never won on that map in official games so we wanted to win at least one time, but it didn't happen.

Regarding the map, why do you think you have so many issues on Dust2? It seems like a pretty basic, simple map, that is what other teams have been saying. Does it just not align with your game style and with Zeus?

I don't know why, but most of our losses were like 16-14, 16-13, and we were leading, for example, 13-8 versus Liquid. We just can't close it perhaps, we don't feel good on the CT side as well. As you can see, all teams are playing randomly, Astralis is winning 16-3 on CT vs Spirit and they lost 16-1 to North after starting CT, while North lost 16-0 to mousesports... it is a random map, for now. We still want to play it because no one is playing it well, consistently, for example, taking 10 round either on CT or T. Everyone is playing randomly, we are still not far away from other teams at this point.

What do you think about the loss to North in the playoffs, what was the cause of that?

I think it happened because they were prepared for us better [than we were for them]. They did their homework, they read us very well and played very good as a team. And they had more practice than us. They just played better and we were ready to lose, it is ok, you can lose a tournament sometimes. We knew that the Major was in one week and that we need to practice as much as we can.

How comfortable are you personally in this lineup with the role that you have now, since electronic got a bit more freedom and became the second-star of this team?

I'm okay with my role in the team because, of course, someone needs to do some support toles and someone needs to go first, I'm okay with having the role of going in first and dying because I know that I have electronic or s1mple or Edward or Zeus who can trade me, or we can win the round because of me going first and dying. So it's ok.

But I'm not playing that good as I was a year ago because I had some life problems, I think that changed the way I was in-game. I didn't play as much CS as did before, but now I think it is fixed and I can play, I am playing as much as I can. At the bootcamp I had like 130 hours [played in two weeks]. I hope that I can play well again. My role is ok, on every team you have these roles so I am OK with that.

You got the first round draw and you are going to play against Astralis, two of the highest ranked teams right now, both favorites to win the Major... what are your thoughts on that?

This drawing system is not good, but we usually don't play well in the first map of the tournament anyway. Though, mostly it was against teams that weren't the best in the world. For example, we lost to TYLOO at StarLadder, lost to Ghost, to AVANGAR once... Maybe versus Astralis, one of the best teams in the world, we will play better. It is always nice to play versus them, even if it is the first match. If we lose it is nothing bad, if they lose, for them it is the same, we still have more games to play. We will try our best and I hope it will be a good game.

More interviews from the FACEIT Major New Legends stage media day:

France SmithZz: "We aren't completely ready at the moment, but we are getting there"
United States RUSH: "Hopefully, after the Major, our ranking will reflect how we actually are as a team"

Russia Egor 'flamie' Vasilyev
Egor 'flamie' Vasilyev
Age:
21
Rating 1.0:
1.06
Maps played:
1111
KPR:
0.73
DPR:
0.67
APR:
0.14
#1
RapeN | 
Italy GODcenz0r 
Ez Edit: Ez lose
2018-09-11 20:10
#5
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Europe pencilvester 
Ez katka for ynk
2018-09-11 20:15
#21
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Moldova adypas 
NaVi winner of Major
2018-09-11 20:12
#23
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Austria shaakeh 
nt
2018-09-11 20:12
NOrth Omega Lul But +1 @#22nd comment
2018-09-11 20:27
#98
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Ukraine rthr|arturka 
Best luck for Na'Vi
2018-09-11 22:32
#22
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Austria shaakeh 
BIG would expectedly rekt them
2018-09-11 20:12
no bug no big
2018-09-11 20:31
#101
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Russia GramDEL 
Outdated. No smooya, no big now
2018-09-11 23:26
#20
NiKo | 
Europe NeO_RiGhT 
Ez my boy
2018-09-11 20:11
Thx guys, thx for supporting me
2018-09-11 20:13
Navi in 2018 LUL
2018-09-11 20:09
19-17 Navi vs Ghost 16-1 North vs Astralis
2018-09-11 20:16
Baitzera_MIBR in 2018 LUL
2018-09-11 20:31
MiBR no wins in 2018 LUL
2018-09-11 21:41
+1 shit team xd
2018-09-11 21:48
#3
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France ManuelFerrara 
Lol
2018-09-11 20:09
#4
byali | 
Poland BYALl 
lmao "no one is playing it well" BIG is fucking destroying on d2
2018-09-11 20:10
#7
STYKO | 
Slovakia WeniX 
You think losing on it 16-0?
2018-09-11 20:11
+1
2018-09-11 20:11
#36
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Germany VeryBigGuy 
+1
2018-09-11 20:22
#38
s1 | 
Ukraine mple 
+1 BIG rolled G2 les noobs EZ
2018-09-11 20:25
+1
2018-09-11 20:32
#61
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Singapore SashaTr1ceps 
BIG, Liquid, Mouz always good on dust
2018-09-11 20:33
#72
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Spain N0Love 
That Tabsen-Smooya awp combo tho
2018-09-11 20:43
#109
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Finland Smoonah 
tabsen is just a god
2018-09-12 07:15
#6
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Germany Shlyywa 
play it against BIG ^^
2018-09-11 20:11
fat sa
2018-09-11 20:11
yea play it and get fuckd on lmao
2018-09-11 20:11
'no one is playing it' ok sure
2018-09-11 20:11
#28
Xyp9x | 
Portugal CRMN1 
He's kinda right. Dust 2 is no team's primary pick in the Major. That being said, no team has mastered it yet. I don't agree that no one is playing it well, but I agree that there's more than enough space for Na'Vi to improve on the map and eventually become the strongest team in it given that team's aren't prioritizing this map yet.
2018-09-11 20:15
Big!
2018-09-11 20:28
i think the examples flamie gave are not great, for example it has been a good map for mouz in the past, so i dont know why is he that surprised
2018-09-11 20:37
#69
Xyp9x | 
Portugal CRMN1 
Yeah the wording was bad and a lot of people misunderstood it.
2018-09-11 20:40
d2 in 2k18? omegalul
2018-09-11 20:11
Dead game dead maps, am I right?
2018-09-11 20:41
#13
oskar | 
Poland ThoreQ 
Inferno challenger stage Dust2 Legends Stage
2018-09-11 20:11
#14
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Finland corde 
you really want to challenge my d2 team? ^^ /q corde @ Quakenet
2018-09-11 20:11
+rep ez win if simple doesn't carry
2018-09-11 20:29
#56
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Finland corde 
sorry bro, but stack is made since 2001, and our map was cpl mill
2018-09-11 20:30
Oh flamie, I'm pretty sure BIG plays dust2 well. ;-)
2018-09-11 20:11
expected from fatmie
2018-09-11 20:11
#40
s1 | 
Ukraine mple 
weeb calling someone fat next level of irony
2018-09-11 20:25
>Taking serious a weeb XD
2018-09-11 20:29
#54
s1 | 
Ukraine mple 
greentexting on hltv go back to /a/
2018-09-11 20:29
#103
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Denmark devvegod_pt2 
Your a god
2018-09-12 02:09
I wonder if these words will come back to haunt him.
2018-09-11 20:11
Plssssss
2018-09-11 20:29
f** prick
2018-09-11 20:11
Censoring fat on the internet OMEGALUL
2018-09-11 20:44
it could be fit ?
2018-09-11 20:57
#87
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Canada TorontoSucks 
It could be f-a-g which is bannable on hltv im pretty sure
2018-09-11 21:35
+1
2018-09-11 21:33
wtf xD yea no one is playing it well but they are still better than you in it :)
2018-09-11 20:13
Loooolll so true
2018-09-11 20:29
"Noone is playing on it well" Except for ghost apparently
2018-09-11 20:13
#29
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United Kingdom Finnick519 
Ghost are.
2018-09-11 20:14
mousesports
2018-09-11 20:15
big would break your anus on d2 brat
2018-09-11 20:16
Astralis, Liquid, mouse, BIG all play it
2018-09-11 20:16
#34
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Germany xoutblaze 
mouz and big
2018-09-11 20:18
#35
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Moldova OptimusBlyad 
Yeah forget about Cache
2018-09-11 20:18
#42
s1 | 
Ukraine mple 
s1mple cache god
2018-09-11 20:27
#67
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Moldova OptimusBlyad 
+1 Bazary zero :)
2018-09-11 20:38
god flamie
2018-09-11 20:22
pick dust2 against BiG flamie and you will see what happens xD
2018-09-11 20:25
#41
s1 | 
Ukraine mple 
11-16 is really not that bad considering BIG rolls on d2
2018-09-11 20:26
Just cuz navi had good form and one of big sucked ...
2018-09-11 20:30
Dust 2 e buon stronzi
2018-09-11 20:27
man hahaha ok go play vs BIG and you cry
2018-09-11 20:28
#48
s1 | 
Ukraine mple 
botmie
2018-09-11 20:28
#49
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Latvia 6matko 
He is right. First games they played against weaker teams didn't turn out good for them, so lets hope this time they will win first game.
2018-09-11 20:28
Yea, probably the opponent they have biggest motivation against.
2018-09-11 21:52
#50
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United States SkratarDuu 
"The drawing system is not good" Wut This is the fairest drawing system I've seen. (I have only followed CS pro since MLG 2016 tho)
2018-09-11 20:29
astralis-navi on d2, you heard it here first. astralis 16-2
2018-09-11 20:33
#66
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Slovakia bombmeister 
tbh, i wouldnt be suprised, classic navi
2018-09-11 20:38
#63
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Denmark Zorrondo 
it's a PUB map like Cache. who cares about strategy in these shitties maps
2018-09-11 20:36
#104
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Denmark devvegod_pt2 
But cache requires some strats in Unlike dust u newfag
2018-09-12 02:11
at this rate there is nothing new for cache. every team will essentially be doing the same thing and it all really comes down to aimduels. all the same
2018-09-12 06:47
#65
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Slovakia bombmeister 
he is right...there is no team, which can dominate on dust2 actually...but navi sucks there so hard, they need soooo much practice...pls dont try risks with d2 map pick at the major, kurwa blyat
2018-09-11 20:37
#68
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Germany Youdontknowme 
Big can play it pretty decent Only lost to Faze there and they best na vi there
2018-09-11 20:40
#71
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Slovakia bombmeister 
yes, but remember... for example mouz had a really great domination on mirage few months ago...there is no team, who can dominate on d2 as mouz were on mirage....if we are talking about top teams, everyone can beat everyone (dust 2)
2018-09-11 20:42
#97
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Germany Youdontknowme 
Yeah thats true but it‘s still not true to say no team can play it well Some teams do practice it and get at least decent at it
2018-09-11 22:16
#116
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Slovakia bombmeister 
Cg to big's win on dust 2 against faze :) big are really great, this map fits them well
2018-09-13 00:56
lost to vp on lan 16-3 xDDDDDDDDDDDD
2018-09-11 20:47
Lets better remind dh winter 2013
2018-09-11 21:08
#88
shox | 
Poland neverbait 
dude this kid had 5 years in 2013xd
2018-09-11 21:38
Actually I expected that
2018-09-11 21:38
#75
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France Aresys 
- "No one is playing D2 well" - "Loose against T2 on D2"
2018-09-11 20:52
- Lose to Ghost on dust2 - Critique pros for not playing dust2 well Pick one
2018-09-11 20:53
2010 incoming I swear navi āre ready
2018-09-11 20:57
#80
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Hungary Shiron212 
yes
2018-09-11 21:09
And then they get 16-0‘d by BIG on dust 2
2018-09-11 21:16
#83
Lekr0 | 
Russia kize 
ha lul
2018-09-11 21:17
its not you're playing it well anyway xddddddd
2018-09-11 21:29
xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD +100000 h3h3h3hh3h3
2018-09-11 21:53
#96
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Estonia RaimanS2k 
Says the fatty russian shit LUL
2018-09-11 22:14
#100
s1 | 
Armenia gr1nch 
everyone is fucking navi on d2 but yeah, no one is playing it well
2018-09-11 23:00
#105
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Kazakhstan sundby 
You're getting rekt everytime but still think your dust is not the worst
2018-09-12 03:24
#106
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Ukraine minemax 
Dust2 for this Navi lineup? :) It's a bad idea!
2018-09-12 06:43
navi_pick_cache_ffs someone needs to make the account.
2018-09-12 06:46
So am i, i got bored with simple map and stop playing I prefer overpass and cobble
2018-09-12 08:00
#112
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Australia hellboy^ 
inb4 navi gets 16-0'd by WinStrike
2018-09-12 10:14
lmao, they got rekt 16-3 on dust by VP in 2018
2018-09-12 10:44
#114
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Brazil IguiN 
BIG MIBR MOUZ ASTRALIS LUL
2018-09-12 10:44
Stoped reading after "no one is playing it well" 2x 16:0 1x 16:1 NORTH
2018-09-12 10:51
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