Can Liquid go all the way in London?

Striker
September 19th, 2018 18:22

With talks of Liquid's chances of going all the way to the title at the FACEIT Major picking up steam as the tournament progresses, we decided to explore the North American squad's outlook in the upcoming playoffs.

"Liquid are going to win the Major," Chad "SPUNJ" Burchill tweeted on September 1, before the first stage of the tournament began. That prediction has since been repeated by the Australian player-turned-analyst and has picked up more and more traction throughout the FACEIT Major, which will soon enter its third week of play, when eight teams will be competing in the playoffs, held at the SSE Arena on September 20-23.

How good are Liquid's chances to go all the way at the Major?

Liquid are one of those teams, and it's fair to say that they have been looking like one of the best sides of the tournament, with a 6-0 record following the first two stages, including their first win over Astralis with this lineup.

Do they have enough to go all the way to their first Major title, though?

There's a lot of logic to the arguments supporting Liquid's chances in the upcoming playoffs. Nick "nitr0" Cannella's team have consistently proven themselves an elite team over the course of the last several months, ever since before Epitacio "TACO" de Melo replaced Lucas "steel" Lopes, with top-four finishes at six of their last nine "Big Events", including three grand final appearances.

Before the Major, they skipped ZOTAC Cup Masters and DreamHack Masters Stockholm to focus on preparation for the London event, which gave them the opportunity to watch every one of their main rivals without the danger of being scouted themselves. For a team that likes to plan for specific opponents, that is quite an advantage.

"Coming into this event and playing against teams who were playing in Stockholm helped us a lot because we can see if they have new stuff, we can actually steal some stuff for our team, as well, so it was really good to watch that tournament.

"We got to know the opponents we would face here and in the Major, and going 3-0 means we will have even more time to practice, so we can still change stuff, we can prepare for the real Major," TACO said in our interview with him after the New Challengers stage.

While others struggled at their first tournaments following the off-season, Liquid have yet to falter. They got dangerously close in their New Challengers stage encounter with Vega Squadron, who took them to overtime on Cache, but we can attribute it to, as TACO fittingly put it, Vega surprising Liquid "as expected".

There's no questioning the key players and the team's form. Liquid's stars have all delivered so far, while nitr0 has had his fair share of impact in opening up rounds to give his stars room to work with. The team as a whole has looked well-rounded, looking better than ever at their heavy-trading style.

Aside from overtime wins against Vega Squadron and Astralis, TACO & co. have looked comfortable

Liquid have also broken their losing streak to Astralis with their first win against this lineup, secured in the New Legends stage. That should theoretically give them some much-needed confidence for this matchup, with which they have struggled for months, having encountered the Danes at almost every event they have attended. It is almost inevitable that the two will meet in the semi-finals of the FACEIT Major, with Astralis about to meet a shaky FaZe and Liquid heading into a heavily-favored HellRaisers matchup, so that win is an important piece of the puzzle.

With that, we also have to get to the other side of the coin.

Looking at the way Liquid almost threw away the 13-2 lead on the CT side of Inferno against Astralis in the third round of the New Legends stage, the match ended up serving as more of a warning that the Danes will never go down easily rather than a confidence-booster. You could tell that nitr0 & co. were getting afraid of losing the match before it even became that dangerous, as they made some questionable decisions on the defence when Astralis started closing the gap and lost a few very favorable situations, most notably a 3v1 to Lukas "gla1ve" Rossander at 13-12 and a 4v2 at 15-14.

"I think we were a little bit afraid to lose. Towards the end we were just like "we should just keep stacking B and eventually, one round, they will come to us" (laughs). I think we were trying to do a lot of wacky stuff that just didn't work. LIke I said, we were just getting a little afraid that we were so close to winning, it kind of got out of hand and it went to OT…" Keith "NAF" Markovic said in an interview after Liquid's win against Astralis.

It took a tilted NAF, who bought an AWP in overtime — not because he thought it would work but out of frustration — and got a few key pickoffs in the 3-0 CT half which secured his team the win.

"It is funny, when we got into overtime I was so pissed off, I was really tilted. So I'm just "F*** this, I'm going to buy an AWP." I bought the AWP out of pure frustration, it wasn't like I thought it was the solution. And honestly, it ended up working in our favor because I got a lot of picks. Going into OT, I guess AWP was pretty much the solution that helped us (laughs), and obviously everyone started playing really good. I think everyone was more calm, we had a little break because it goes into OT, so we can just reset ourselves. Both teams have more money, we are not scraping by and obviously that helped as well. So yeah, I think we just found our footing OT and took it home." - NAF

That tells you a lot about the mindset Liquid have when it comes to facing Astralis, which does not bode that well for a potential rematch on Saturday. It's hard to bet against the history between the two; the North American team had been able to take maps off Astralis even before the Major, but they had rarely had a realistic chance in series, of which they lost six with the current lineups. The current map score is 14-3 in the Danish team's favor, with all three of Liquid's map wins being hard-earned (either 16-14 or overtime triumphs), while Astralis have lost around eight rounds on average in their wins against NAF & co.

Liquid's first win over Astralis was not quite the confidence-booster they had been looking for

However unlikely it looks based on the aforementioned record and on the power Astralis have to take the veto almost anywhere they want and still be favored, there's a chance Liquid will prevail and make the final, whether by surprising the Danes with some more anti-stratting (though I suspect Astralis will learn from their earlier match) or by taking advantage of some of the shakiness we've seen from gla1ve's camp following the off-season.

Naturally, their path could be very different and, in a way, easier. FaZe have a reasonable chance to take down Astralis in the quarter-finals and then the semi-finals become a completely different matchup, one that has no history attached to it with the exact same lineups, and one that Liquid would likely prefer purely because of their measly record against the Danish team.

If they do pass the semi-finals against either of the two teams, even then will Liquid have a tough time overcoming someone like Na`Vi in the grand final — despite their supposed advantage in that particular matchup — because of another psychological barrier. The added pressure of a big grand final — a Major grand final — looks like something nitr0's squad can't handle just yet when you look at the team's core in title deciders: 0-4 in series and 1-10 in maps at "Big Events" (which Liquid gathered largely against Astralis).

That makes picking Liquid to win the Major quite a bold statement. Based on what we've seen so far, they have improved as a team and have the advantage in preparation, which is obviously a step forward, but they will still have to overcome a few mental barriers and very challenging matchups in order to hoist the trophy come Sunday.

Brazil Epitacio 'TACO' de Melo
Epitacio 'TACO' de Melo
Age:
23
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.95
Maps played:
835
KPR:
0.62
DPR:
0.64
APR:
0.12
Denmark Lukas 'gla1ve' Rossander
Lukas 'gla1ve' Rossander
Age:
23
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.01
Maps played:
1104
KPR:
0.68
DPR:
0.66
APR:
0.17
Australia Chad 'SPUNJ' Burchill
Chad 'SPUNJ' Burchill
Age:
29
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
0.88
Maps played:
152
KPR:
0.62
DPR:
0.73
APR:
0.18
Brazil Lucas 'steel' Lopes
Lucas 'steel' Lopes
Age:
25
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.98
Maps played:
802
KPR:
0.66
DPR:
0.66
APR:
0.13
United States Nick 'nitr0' Cannella
Nick 'nitr0' Cannella
Age:
23
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.02
Maps played:
1013
KPR:
0.70
DPR:
0.67
APR:
0.15
Canada Keith 'NAF' Markovic
Keith 'NAF' Markovic
Age:
21
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.09
Maps played:
948
KPR:
0.74
DPR:
0.64
APR:
0.16
They are a favorite to win it all. One of Astralis, Liquid or Faze will win the major, maybe Navi or BIG also have a shot but thats rather unlikely.
2018-09-19 18:24
#15
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Turkey dondresla1 
liquid gonna take this Major
2018-09-19 18:24
Lul
2018-09-22 23:49
nope they didnt take this major
2018-09-22 23:50
Would be hilarious.
2018-09-23 12:12
#16
max | 
Sweden Unluko 
Yes
2018-09-19 18:24
#26
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France yo_les_n00bs 
yeee
2018-09-19 18:25
#38
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France France98123 
tbh i would say either astralis, NAVI, MIBR, Complexcity, BIG, liquid, hellraiser or FaZe will win the major
2018-09-19 18:31
you smart
2018-09-19 18:32
You loyal
2018-09-19 18:34
#73
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Netherlands Dust2isBest 
as a matter of fact you are genius
2018-09-19 18:46
You a genius
2018-09-19 18:47
No one wrote We baugette Lost all hope in humanity
2018-09-19 19:13
you grapefruit
2018-09-19 19:15
#122
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Spain VIKTORAL 
u not from brazil
2018-09-19 19:21
I appreciate that
2018-09-20 09:04
you mok dog kkkkzhsh
2018-09-20 21:34
#57
max | 
Sweden Unluko 
+1
2018-09-19 18:37
I would say Liquid and Astralis are your absolute top dogs coming into the champions stage. FaZe and NaVi have reasonable chances to take the top dogs to their limits and beyond and BIG rather is a dark horse as it remains to be seen if they can beat NaVi and also if they can keep up their form from Cologne. As for the other teams, I don't see them winning this event although it would be quite the spectacle to see MiBr win it all.
2018-09-19 18:33
#100
REZ | 
Sweden namblooC 
how does it remain to be seen? they already showed it at this tournament
2018-09-19 19:00
#173
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United States Jammin800k 
"as it remains to be seen if they can beat NaVi" What? Theyve never beaten navi.
2018-09-19 22:39
That what just happened was exactly what I meant. I don't buy into this team in bo3s. I also don't really believe in NaVi yet, all they have going for them is s1mple and electronic going hard.
2018-09-20 18:18
#229
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United States Jammin800k 
Nah they played pretty solid fundamental counterstrike that bo3 and flamie/edward played well. They all won the majority of their duels and had sufficient teamplay and pretty basic but effective tactics. I'm not gonna say they can do this versus every team I think against teams like Liquid and Astralis they do need standout performances from S1 and elec but that needs to be combined with play solid fundamental counterstrike like they did vs BiG
2018-09-20 18:30
Don’t sleep on complexity. I have them favored vs mibr as long as the young guys do get shell shock and fold under the pressure. Idk if they could make it past Navi but if they get big in the semis we could see an all NA final
2018-09-19 19:48
I'm hoping they do find a way past MiBR. Even if they got no farther, getting to the semi's are something awesome for them. In my wettest of dreams, I'd like to see them get to the final... and against Liquid! LoL. I know.... "calm down; highly unlikely", but that would be swell.
2018-09-19 21:14
Are you me?
2018-09-20 02:38
#241
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United States fatburger 
Wtf who is who
2018-09-21 04:44
MiBr will have to have more than an off day for coL to beat them in a bo3. I get the bias and I would be fine with them winning, but I don't see that at all.
2018-09-19 21:49
Very much agreed. Shit, potentially against NaVi they could win as well. Ghost and NRG has shown that NaVi comes very underprepared against NA teams
2018-09-20 02:37
Na'Vi wanting to practice dust2 in a bo1 shows them being under prepared? lmao, complexity isn't even in the same league as Na'Vi. They're not even in the same league as t2 mibr. delusional na fans
2018-09-20 06:09
+111111111111
2018-09-19 21:43
With how electronic and flamie have been plying recently I think they have a good shot
2018-09-19 23:50
#46
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United States fatburger 
What???1? Complexity is favorite though?1?1!1!2!!2!
2018-09-19 18:34
#58
NiKo | 
Europe NeO_RiGhT 
No
2018-09-19 18:37
#65
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Australia weapon_ 
Lets Hope that its not big.. wont hear the last of it from smooya.. annoying pommy git..
2018-09-19 18:40
+1
2018-09-19 19:14
Top rated Player of the tournament so far, lul
2018-09-20 11:17
#81
 | 
Denmark Farven 
Faze?
2018-09-19 18:49
#83
 | 
Denmark Farven 
no
2018-09-19 18:49
how is navi unlikely? they have better changes than faze, lol
2018-09-19 18:56
#96
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Finland istop1 
navi unlikely but faze favourites lmao
2018-09-19 18:57
yee
2018-09-19 19:01
#117
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Canada pureGOD 
FAZE IN 2K18 OMEGALUL
2018-09-19 19:17
"fan of mibr" xD
2018-09-19 19:20
Both of y’all made legends you nerds
2018-09-19 19:48
#140
 | 
Canada Encry_pted 
16-0 IN A MAJOR OMEGALUL also faze has 2 premier event championships this year while MI16-0 has none.
2018-09-19 20:11
#143
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Canada pureGOD 
16-0 and they're still better than faze
2018-09-19 20:28
what did mibr achieve so far?
2018-09-19 20:50
A historical match, tbh.
2018-09-19 20:57
true lmao
2018-09-19 21:00
#153
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Canada Encry_pted 
ofc they're better than faze, dropped 2 players this year, never have been higher then faze on leaderboards, lost against faze 2-0 the last time they played, ofc they're better than faze
2018-09-19 20:53
#158
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CIS justkapf 
individual skill of some players is lower, but better as a team and higher rated than faze. the faze clan is just famous players and nothing more.
2018-09-19 21:13
#174
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United States Jammin800k 
Famous legendary best in their role players with insane talent who have been top 5 all year unlike mibr. Mibr has great potential to form into a world class team but they aren't there yet. Higher rated? In what regard lmao
2018-09-19 22:42
#179
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CIS justkapf 
yes higher, the last few months the team liquid is higher rated than the faze clan tbh
2018-09-19 23:55
#180
 | 
Canada Encry_pted 
We're comparing MIBR to FaZe, not Liquid to FaZe lmao
2018-09-20 00:40
#181
 | 
CIS justkapf 
ah, ofc mibr now is down
2018-09-20 00:58
#182
 | 
United States Jammin800k 
Yeah not sure where you got liquid from.
2018-09-20 01:29
Faze = Good but should be better MIBR = Hot garbage
2018-09-20 03:07
+16-0
2018-09-20 09:36
#150
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Brazil CdM03 
True
2018-09-19 20:47
sure.. it's like i think BIG has some chances and Astralis ofc but MiBR also have a good chance and FaZe aswell and NaVi can win too and so do hellraisers as a underdog lol
2018-09-19 21:59
#185
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United States STERBENVII 
FaZe has terrible fundamentals and a play very sloppy . I don’t think they have what it takes to win. If they were to win, it’s off the back of their players suddenly popping off to unimaginable form.
2018-09-20 02:24
Navi or MIBR
2018-09-21 15:07
Taco_3_majors_s1mple_none
2018-09-22 11:10
#270
REZ | 
Sweden namblooC 
navi is pretty much favored
2018-09-23 09:53
No FaZe Up
2018-09-19 18:23
#29
 | 
Romania RBK_GOD 
+1 eZaF
2018-09-19 18:26
#34
 | 
Sweden StaffaN1 
same, lets go olof #3 for him :)
2018-09-19 18:29
#76
 | 
Brazil br4z1l1an_ 
is that a joke? lul
2018-09-19 18:48
#129
 | 
Singapore NSuh 
Liquid is winning it. If you are denying that, you are clueless fanboy. Objectively, Proud Liquid Fan since Faceit Major.
2018-09-19 19:44
#138
Bewgz | 
Australia g00sey 
A tad too obvious even tho unironically you could be right
2018-09-19 20:06
#139
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Latvia Frip! 
"proud liquid fan since faceit major" Fucking can't wait liquid to lose, finally retards, new (plastic) fans gonna stfu
2018-09-19 20:07
#146
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Singapore NSuh 
Why u so tosic, brotha? Curiously, Proud Liquid Fan since Faceit Major.
2018-09-19 20:31
u rn't toxic. Everyone is a liquid fan if they want to be :)
2018-09-20 02:38
#141
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Denmark [OLD2]Larsen 
Your weren't a proud Liquid fan before the Major? Thats a funny statement to make, i find Liquid a great team indeedm with great players thats not just good aimers but always smart thinking players, thats plays very tactical, in some way much like Astralis just without the primary AWPer like Dev!ce.
2018-09-19 20:15
#145
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Singapore NSuh 
Yes I was before. Just I wasn’t proud with Team Liquid, but now I’m proud of my boys and the sense of pride I got was during Faceit Major. Respectfully, Proud Liquid Fan since Faceit Major.
2018-09-19 20:30
nice bait poland
2018-09-19 21:33
#210
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Singapore derpydm 
nt prodka
2018-09-20 09:04
nt poland, its prokda.
2018-09-20 16:16
#3
huyak | 
Ukraine acrje 
ye -
2018-09-19 18:23
Sss
2018-09-19 18:23
I almost made 1st comment, I wanna thank my cat, although I dont have a cat
2018-09-19 18:23
#50
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United States fatburger 
nt you ate him
2018-09-19 18:34
+1
2018-09-19 18:48
#5
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Germany cartii 
Nah
2018-09-19 18:23
#239
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Europe coolboii 
NaF*
2018-09-21 04:31
YEs
2018-09-19 18:23
tldr
2018-09-19 18:23
#8
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Serbia Suckleus 
Well done cursing them HLTV
2018-09-19 18:23
This is a Danish site. What did you expect?
2018-09-19 18:24
Hahahaha
2018-09-19 18:25
#35
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Serbia Suckleus 
"This is an international site..." Riiiight
2018-09-19 18:30
#64
max | 
Sweden Unluko 
LuL
2018-09-19 18:40
#77
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Brazil CaioOlive 
So, is device's Major MVP post already scheduled?
2018-09-19 18:48
#107
REZ | 
Sweden namblooC 
gla1ve mvp ronaldo
2018-09-19 19:06
MIRAA is the new Haci
2018-09-19 19:11
WHY U JINX MAN!?
2018-09-19 19:47
#44
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United States Trump2020KAG 
Hahahaha why u gota say shit like that bro.
2018-09-19 18:33
#104
REZ | 
Sweden namblooC 
f
2018-09-19 19:02
#9
 | 
Denmark Doctor_Viktor 
Nope
2018-09-19 18:23
#11
 | 
United States Trump2020KAG 
Let’s go hltv showing NA team some love
2018-09-19 18:24
#56
 | 
Korea RemoveBooster 
Not na 2 usa 1 from brazil and 2 canadians which canadia dont want to be part of na and theyare french
2018-09-19 18:37
#62
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United States Trump2020KAG 
Nt frenchy na 100
2018-09-19 18:38
#86
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Korea RemoveBooster 
I like tomato
2018-09-19 18:53
"Canadia dont want to be part of na" which implies there are 4 north Americans on that team. Nice logic btw
2018-09-19 18:57
Ok german
2018-09-19 19:05
Yes. I'm half german on my dad's side. How about you, Mr.Ruski
2018-09-19 20:54
We talk CS here, not politics bro, Canada, USA, SA countries all NA - as they play in the same league.
2018-09-19 19:00
ez for Russell Van Bulkin
2018-09-19 18:24
#13
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Russia GramDEL 
Lol, thought it was just one more theme on the forum when saw the title
2018-09-19 18:24
#17
KRIMZ | 
Denmark slacking 
Rip liquid chances now
2018-09-19 18:24
#37
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Czech Republic jac0bss0n 
Why?
2018-09-19 18:30
#40
KRIMZ | 
Denmark slacking 
Hltv jinxed it
2018-09-19 18:32
#45
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United States Trump2020KAG 
Shhhhhhhhh don’t say it man.
2018-09-19 18:34
#18
Xyp9x | 
China Autumn7 
Prob not going to win against Astralis in a Bo3
2018-09-19 18:24
mibr ez
2018-09-19 18:24
#20
D0cC | 
Turkey CHAMPTZ 
No
2018-09-19 18:24
no, FaZe/Astralis will win
2018-09-19 18:24
#53
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United States fatburger 
faze winning nt fortnite
2018-09-19 18:35
Lmao jinxed it, ez for CoL
2018-09-19 18:24
#24
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France yo_les_n00bs 
yes
2018-09-19 18:25
FFS Haci dont jinx it
2018-09-19 18:25
#27
 | 
Europe _xrelaky_ 
No faze win
2018-09-19 18:25
#28
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Turkey Payynnkilla 
But can they do it on a cold rainy night in Stoke?
2018-09-19 18:26
#30
Snax | 
United Kingdom LFX 
They won't beat Ast in bo3
2018-09-19 18:26
#36
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Czech Republic jac0bss0n 
Why?
2018-09-19 18:30
#51
Snax | 
United Kingdom LFX 
In the last 6 months liquid have lost in every bo3 they have been in against Astralis and Astralis have only lost like 2 maps against them
2018-09-19 18:35
#92
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Belgium 69Savage 
Just a much better map pool Atleast one of the maps will be an auto-win for Astralis. Liquid doesn’t have that.
2018-09-19 18:55
No.
2018-09-19 18:27
jinxed
2018-09-19 18:28
#33
 | 
Korea DadaDahyun 
yes. /close
2018-09-19 18:28
#39
 | 
Lithuania KoksSkirtumas 
No , random team will win - faze or navis...
2018-09-19 18:31
no
2018-09-19 18:32
It is a bad idea to hype up a team too early. Often you jinx it.
2018-09-19 18:34
#49
TACO | 
Brazil torm3ntin 
mibr ez pz lemzqueez
2018-09-19 18:34
Maybe they can win
2018-09-19 18:35
#55
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United States Trump2020KAG 
ANY CHANCE ALL U GUYS CAN STFU ABOUT JINX. PLZ
2018-09-19 18:35
#59
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Ireland lander1337 
Twistzz the lesbian can make anything happen
2018-09-19 18:37
#61
s1mple | 
China Alar1c 
lol
2018-09-19 18:38
#60
s1mple | 
China Alar1c 
NOT GONNA HAPPEN THERE IS A BEAST ON EARTH IT'S CALLED NAVI
2018-09-19 18:38
yeah especially edward
2018-09-19 18:38
#215
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France cedd 
liquid literally never lose to na'vi. na'vi can only win major against astralis
2018-09-20 11:37
This is the first time i have seen the china flag on this site is it a VPN or no?
2018-09-21 00:38
#243
s1mple | 
China Alar1c 
"NO" for this site, "YES" for other major site like Instagram, Twitter, Reddit, YouTube
2018-09-21 10:50
MIBR x Liquid final TACO will choke and cry stewie will clutch a 1v5, proceed to run towards the liquid table, pull his pants down and shit on their PC how much yall wanna bet
2018-09-19 18:41
#68
valde | 
Brazil 643 
Solid prediction
2018-09-19 18:42
+2
2018-09-19 21:02
#67
valde | 
Brazil 643 
Twistzz celebrating like cold, cold to liquid is real
2018-09-19 18:41
#69
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United States Toothyca 
LIQUID WIN MAJOR #TLWIN
2018-09-19 18:44
#70
flusha | 
Germany felo 
no
2018-09-19 18:44
no
2018-09-19 18:44
can you stfu hltv? no one cares about your fuck buddies from astralis. they won t win the major so go back to your caves danes
2018-09-19 18:45
#135
NAF | 
Slovakia t4gg3d 
"Can Liquid go all the way in London?" ???????
2018-09-19 20:01
it took you 2 hours to read the title. c ya in 10 years when you finish reading everything
2018-09-19 22:10
#176
NAF | 
Slovakia t4gg3d 
r/wooooooosh
2018-09-19 22:50
can Liquid go all the way down in London? ofc in semis they're going down
2018-09-19 22:28
ALL THE WAY gachiBASS Clap
2018-09-19 18:47
ez for twistzz hair
2018-09-19 18:49
#80
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Czech Republic THE_WILLY 
Nope
2018-09-19 18:49
#82
D0cC | 
Finland niklaSjj 
Yes
2018-09-19 18:49
i predict a massive choke in the grandfinal (if they will manage to reach it somehow)
2018-09-19 18:52
#87
KRIMZ | 
Slovakia Chaoooss 
This major seems rly competitive and interesting there are 4 big favourites to win it all + BIG/ Mibr can surprise and make it far
2018-09-19 18:53
no
2018-09-19 18:54
#89
DD | 
China AyvaNjj 
LIQUID <3 GAY4TWISTZZ JOIN THE GROUP steamcommunity.com/groups/gay4twistzz
2018-09-19 18:54
#90
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Denmark KATTENxD 
nope not at all
2018-09-19 18:54
every fucking body overhyping them lmao,maybe lets wait until they win any tournament?or wait until they beat astralis in a bo3 at least once?
2018-09-19 18:55
#95
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Europe hltv007 
no
2018-09-19 18:57
nah
2018-09-19 18:57
can-liquid-go-all-the-way-in-london NO /closed
2018-09-19 18:59
this liquid lineup is the strongest lineup that liquid ever had among these years, this is the best chance.
2018-09-19 19:00
#106
shox | 
India iejesus 
Ez for Liquid
2018-09-19 19:06
#108
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United States Shadow272 
Chad new “Thoorin “??? With that astralis prediction at eleague?
2018-09-19 19:08
No lol
2018-09-19 19:11
#111
FalleN | 
Portugal Stayar 
Finals: Liquid vs MiBr Though game, but Liquid wins.
2018-09-19 19:12
Finals mibr x Liquid TL champion
2018-09-19 19:13
#136
NAF | 
Slovakia t4gg3d 
Complexity 2:0 mina
2018-09-19 20:02
Nice news
2018-09-19 19:14
#118
s1mple | 
Poland Hell2k 
+1
2018-09-19 19:18
#119
s1mple | 
Poland Hell2k 
who cares about chokequid
2018-09-19 19:18
ez liquid
2018-09-19 19:19
no just no it's on 2%
2018-09-19 19:21
#124
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Russia Krityra 
Major its so random.This major should win Astralis or Liquid or NaVi
2018-09-19 19:25
they cant win it in my opinion, they are like budget Astralis but Taco is sometimes questionable and Device is better awper than Nitro, thats why they wont beat Astralis in bo3. Faze is big question mark under new IGL maybe they can stop Astralis maybe not
2018-09-19 19:38
No, unfortunely they will play astralis in semis.
2018-09-19 19:41
EZ4MIBR
2018-09-19 19:42
Liquid dota 2 team maybe, but also hope for CS team
2018-09-19 19:44
#133
Dev1 | 
Slovakia Trav1s 
ofc they can... my pickhem winners
2018-09-19 19:55
#134
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Poland LIL6IX 
Taco was the problem.
2018-09-19 19:58
#137
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Israel raaVz 
no /close
2018-09-19 20:03
#142
ISSAA | 
United States SnoopGG 
THE UNDERDOG WILL WIN! HR beats Liquid, loses to FaZe..Navi vs FaZe Final!
2018-09-19 20:19
yes
2018-09-19 20:30
Spoiler: Liquid wont win Br, 2045
2018-09-19 20:34
ofc they can
2018-09-19 20:39
#149
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Germany sunnyrain 
no they haven't won any significant tournament ever, why should this change at a major
2018-09-19 20:42
#152
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32 
Despite what fans think, they are one of the favourites to win. Just like CompLexity, they are currently undefeated 3-0 and after the Challengers stage, they are technically 6-0 if you take that into account also. Brilliant from from them so far.
2018-09-19 20:50
#161
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United States Err0h 
Let's Go Liquid!
2018-09-19 21:36
Cloud 9 the next Major champs , because they sign scream and nifty , - skadoodle and golden , they have an awper and IGL and 4 one of the best aimers in csgo .2-3 months together and they are in top 5 easly .
2018-09-19 21:39
Well what about astralis?
2018-09-19 21:50
yes
2018-09-19 22:00
#169
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China M1rAiwOw 
NAVI vs Liquid grandfinal
2018-09-19 22:23
twistzz is looking like the best player in the world. addition of taco is good since NA players are too selfish in general and need a support like taco. Elige and NAF have dropped off a bit and I dont really feel comfortable with nitro on awp. They're definitely a strong team but there are some weak links here and there
2018-09-19 22:26
#172
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Brazil r8_dis_thing 
Final: Liquid vs MiBR Winner: MiBR
2018-09-19 22:29
big will win lul
2018-09-19 22:42
#177
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Denmark fm100 
The only real reason why i support TL is cuz of the org. They take such good care of their players, listen to them and are true professionals:)
2018-09-19 23:24
#183
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Russia evg1804 
No, they can't
2018-09-20 01:59
#184
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Korea Hunyango 
nope! NA's first major was a fluke and won't happen again. A korean team has a better chance XD
2018-09-20 02:00
S.Korea will never win anything big in esport until other nations make cheating illegal like you did. Sad but true. But huge respect to S.Korea for making it illegal and punishable by law to cheat. Esport will stay as a joke until the cheating problem is taken 10 times as serious as it is today. That tourney organizer still allow private gear is a green light to cheaters. Disallowing private gear is by far the easiest way to stop LAN hacking, and they are not doing it. GG CS.GO, you are a joke. And shame on anyone downplaying this problem, pro, caster, casual, I don't care. Shame on you for ignoring the elephant in the room.
2018-09-20 03:24
You need to relax buddy
2018-09-20 06:23
If I relax anymore than I do, I would to change my underwear.
2018-09-20 12:39
#197
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United States MeoWzinho 
Watch silly anime man. Liquid and coL are going to be in the finals. A wise man by the name of Bruno Mars once said, "Don't believe it, just watch" and I recommend you take something away from that quote.
2018-09-20 03:33
#186
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United States Gagey 
FaZe or Mibr are winning this major 100%
2018-09-20 02:26
Why are you telling us? Just go bet everything you own if you are that sure. Easy money. 100% is 100% Or maybe you are not THAT sure :p HLTV is not a wish well.
2018-09-20 03:22
#196
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United States MeoWzinho 
I bet big on coL vs MiBR bc I am that sure that coL will clap mibr.
2018-09-20 03:30
#199
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United States Gagey 
i dont bet because i dont waste money. Just stating my thoughts. Dont be so salty. HLTV isnt a place to get therapy
2018-09-20 03:44
salty? You need to get your terms straight, and stop picking a random insult when you want to insult.
2018-09-20 12:40
#219
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United States Gagey 
Salty. Salty as in you're mad because I said something you disagree with. Learn something before you speak.
2018-09-20 12:45
Get your terms straight, you are looking like an idiot when you can't figure out that salty is directly related to crying, and not related to disagreeing. Gimme another random insult from your pile of insults, lets see if it fits.
2018-09-20 12:47
#221
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United States Gagey 
You're so braindead. Salty can stand for many things. LUL salty af
2018-09-20 12:48
Braindead...........wow, you are really miserable at your mother tongue.
2018-09-20 12:49
#187
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Indonesia caqwe 
TBH They need to be solid
2018-09-20 02:31
Idiotic question. If Gambit & C9 can win the major, any top 20 team can.
2018-09-20 03:12
#195
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United States MeoWzinho 
Well the final is coL vs Liquid so yeah Liquid can. coL can upset in the final though.
2018-09-20 03:30
#198
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United States Texas_nigga 
GG ez choke by liquid complete bots
2018-09-20 03:40
LETS GO!!!
2018-09-20 05:40
#201
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Lithuania dAdji 
Omfg. They just jinxed it
2018-09-20 06:00
I think Liquid has the best chance at winning this major solely because they went 3-0 in both stages. They have also looked good throughout the their summer run too. Astralis also has a good chance too just because they basically always play well but it also looks like they're losing A LOT of steam especially with that Rogue game that they should have walked straight through. Na'vi Is another good team with a good chance of winning but only if the entire team shows up, electronic and s1 basically carry the team in most games and I don't think they can carry them through the entire champions stage. coL, the underdogs. Can't believe I'm saying this but they has a decent chance at winning, they've been playing out of their minds. Their run reminds me of the QBF run in last major but I think coL is miles ahead of QBF/Winstrike so I think they can put up a fight and take MiBR to 3 maps this major. BIG I feel like can get to the semi's but that's it. They proved that they can hang with the big teams like Faze and Na'vi in Cologne, but, I do not think they will win, Hell Raisers, would have a better chance if they weren't up against Liquid first thing. Nothing much to say. FaZe, an elite team that always gets close but is always out of reach of a big title. I don't think they'll win this major but I think they are capable of making it to the finals again. MiBR, had troubles in the legends stage losing to Tyloo and almost losing to NiP but they bounced back and made it here. A couple months ago I'd say they're lucky to be going up against coL first thing but they're actually looking extremely mortal. Though I think they will make a decent run in this major. :)
2018-09-20 06:13
#205
Twistzz | 
Korea Aik0 
I think they have the ability to win the major. It's more of a question of whether they can perform in the finals/not choke under pressure. If you read the interview NAF gave after their win over Astralis it didn't sound like they have enough confidence, but who knows maybe they'll bring their top performance.
2018-09-20 06:33
#206
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Ukraine ph3n0m3n 
Taco more Major titles than coldzera OMEGALUL
2018-09-20 06:37
#207
Xyp9x | 
Czech Republic @Puget 
Inb4 the "s1mple the team destroyer" curse will strike liquid again
2018-09-20 07:10
I am a Faze fanboy but somehow i think Big can take this Major...
2018-09-20 08:11
#247
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Germany rama1000 
lol
2018-09-21 15:08
Dont like big, my feeling lied to me
2018-09-21 15:46
#212
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Estonia u3ffe 
No, they can't!
2018-09-20 10:04
#213
HPR | 
Australia imLi0N 
i've bet my gold dorito on it
2018-09-20 10:50
#216
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France cedd 
BIG or coL will win major, it's the prophecy, if gambit or c9 can fluke a major both big or coL can do it
2018-09-20 11:42
#240
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United States fatburger 
Mega Oof on the prediction :(
2018-09-21 04:33
#242
 | 
France cedd 
lul
2018-09-21 05:52
Ezz for Astralis
2018-09-20 14:46
why not?
2018-09-20 14:52
#225
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Turkmenistan coolguy3 
Nah liquid will lose again
2018-09-20 15:33
thats it but will be close i guess
2018-09-21 15:52
EZ win for Liquid. Another NA team to win a major.
2018-09-20 15:37
Lol and then you woke up with your finger up the bum Hahaha
2018-09-22 23:16
#244
tarik | 
China cawloft 
They're gonna choke against Astralis
2018-09-21 12:41
#245
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Indonesia ro2a 
2018 is NA Year XD, Maybe i hope Cuz i pickem them
2018-09-21 13:25
Tilted NAF best NAF, just Tilt NAF before the game starts = 16-0ing Astralis
2018-09-21 16:27
lmao
2018-09-22 23:32
#251
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United Kingdom Kimble_ 
no
2018-09-22 00:25
back to home
2018-09-22 22:51
#254
Dosia | 
Hungary Joco413 
Yes. All the way to the airport.
2018-09-22 23:04
lmfao
2018-09-22 23:10
#256
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Sweden yayer 
no
2018-09-22 23:13
No not even close looolllll HAHAHAHA
2018-09-22 23:15
#259
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Sweden rawrxdd 
lul
2018-09-22 23:17
#260
Snax | 
United Kingdom LFX 
"Can they go all the way" They can go all the way home yeah lul
2018-09-22 23:18
#261
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United Kingdom Kimble_ 
OMEGALUL
2018-09-22 23:23
LEL
2018-09-22 23:32
TL are from NA after all
2018-09-23 00:13
#267
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Australia Hythrex 
Well this didnt age well
2018-09-23 01:14
#268
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France VeryNtGuy 
no lulz
2018-09-23 03:19
No
2018-09-23 03:54
atleast faze did better lmfao, disband pls
2018-09-23 12:17
WTF faze went out a round before you nugget
2018-09-23 15:34
#276
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Netherlands ImKuru 
Lol you’re the nugget, are you really this ignorant or are you just pretending to be
2018-09-23 15:37
#277
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Netherlands ImKuru 
FaZe faced astralis earlier and did a lot better against them than liquid
2018-09-23 15:37
Ok nugget
2018-09-24 06:08
#273
D0cC | 
Denmark Bj3rr1nG 
NOPE
2018-09-23 12:35
#274
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Slovakia b7_ 
no
2018-09-23 15:28
#278
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Brazil ChrisJbigFAN 
not even close
2018-09-23 16:49
#279
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France SynkroZ 
obviously nope
2018-09-23 17:14
#280
Striker | 
Europe Khaz1 
NO
2018-09-23 19:26
nope
2018-09-23 21:27
nope
2018-09-24 05:27
Guess not
2018-09-24 05:33
No, they can't.
2018-09-24 06:07
no
2018-09-24 06:13
nope
2018-09-24 06:29
#288
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Turkey pardus 
nope
2018-09-24 11:31
No
2018-09-24 17:08
#290
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United States BLNDSPT 
nice post
2018-09-24 20:05
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