suNny: "The comeback against fnatic was the reason we won today"

LucasAM
October 1st, 2018 02:03

We sat down with Miikka "suNny" Kemppi after he and his team lifted the trophy at the Barclays Center in New York, having claimed the title of champions in a five map series against Liquid.

mousesports struggled through the group stages, beating fnatic and Gambit in three map series', before winning their semi-final match against NRG and coming back from behind in the BO5 grand final against Liquid to hoist the ESL One trophy.

suNny believes the comeback against fnatic had a direct impact on mousesports winning ESL One New York

In the winners interview, suNny walks us through the importance of coming back against fnatic in the first match of the tournament, the growing pains after bringing Janusz "Snax" Pogorzelski on, and the team's mid-term goal of becoming a solid team going into 2019.

Let's start off with the progression throughout the tournament. You won your group despite a shaky first two matches, and then you were eventually to beat Liquid who was a favorite to take the whole tournament. Tell me about the evolution of the team.

After the Major we were really depressed and we talked about how to get things rolling again, but the key part I think was the comeback against fnatic during the first match because that was a confidence boost for everyone. It was never technical stuff with us, it was all individual mistakes because of some pressures, it felt like many people on the team had to prove themselves. For example, the rumors about oskar getting benched, or everyone talking about whether Snax can return to his form or not, so we all had a lot of pressure on our shoulders and that was the reason we were so bad at the Major.

Here, I think we got better after each game. It was similar to when we had STYKO, we got good when we played tournaments because on an international team you can't talk in really fast situations so you just need to rely on your teammate understanding when you do things. So yeah, I'd say every match here was very important, but I'd say the comeback against fnatic was the reason we won today.

Talking about the comeback against fnatic, today was similar, coming back on Dust2 and then taking Mirage after. Did you get a similar confidence boost?

It might sound pretty stupid to say, but what happens to us really often after we win the first map of a series is that we get sloppy on the next maps. It started on Nuke, I'd say, we had some clutch situations with insane miscommunications, people saying they were holding certain positions and not actually doing it. We started to lose rounds and it got to into our heads, especially on the CT side pistol on Nuke when nitr0 clutched a 1vs2 against oskar and chrisJ without kevlar. It got into our heads and we let the whole side slip.

About the comeback, this happened with the old squad as well, but the thing is that when we're with our back against the wall, then we give everything. It sounds weird to say because you have to give everything every round of a LAN tournament... Let me give an example, imagine I've gone through lower 5000 times in CSGO, but when you have your back against the wall, you remember all of the ways you've died going from lower to short and mid, so you're really focused and telling every detail to your teammates. That level of focus is very hard to reach if you're not playing with really high adrenaline. So yeah, I would say that our comeback against fnatic was the reason we started to believe that we can do it, and the last two maps of the finals were like that, everyone was communicating really well.

It seemed you were struggling a little bit after Snax came in, and as you said there were pressures about him being able to play back at his old level and so on. Tell me what clicked this time around teamwise.

Obviously, we didn't play perfect CS, we almost lost the opening match, so I don't want to say we're back yet, but it's a really big confidence boost and we need to take the best parts out of it. The biggest issue when Snax came in was communication, it wasn't that it was his fault. For example, there were a lot of situations when STYKO was on the team in which he would speak for other players. Like, if I'd push up mid and couldn't talk he was communicating and managing the players letting them know what's going to happen next.

That changed when Snax joined, he communicates fine for himself, and he understands us, but removing Martin showed that our communication was flawed and that he was a big part of why we were successful. Also, if you change a more support-oriented player for one that likes to do things there are some details which change and have a big impact on rounds.

Finally, what's in the sights? You're going to Kiev straight away, so what are the goals for the team, now?

When we did the player change we thought we'd play ESL One Cologne, which would be the warmup tournament, and that we'd then be instantly back to our level. We set too high goals for ourselves, and we set some new ones after Stockholm, which is building a great team for next year. I'd say that all of the tournaments this year are going to be more like practice. Obviously, we still want to win the trophies, but the goal is to get in tip-top shape and have a great map pool before the first tournament of next year.

Finland Miikka 'suNny' Kemppi
Miikka 'suNny' Kemppi
Age:
24
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.08
Maps played:
1011
KPR:
0.76
DPR:
0.69
APR:
0.15
Poland Janusz 'Snax' Pogorzelski
Janusz 'Snax' Pogorzelski
Age:
25
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
1.06
Maps played:
1371
KPR:
0.72
DPR:
0.66
APR:
0.14
#1
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North America Tmansterr 
Hopefully they can continue to have these results.
2018-10-01 02:05
#8
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Bulgaria AboveYall 
that's their 3rd title this year.. 3 times better than liquid HEH
2018-10-01 02:07
3x0 =0
2018-10-01 02:17
#13
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Sweden ConaN007 
Liquid is legit the most overrated team in the world. Holy fuck you NA fangays are so blind.
2018-10-01 02:18
>nip
2018-10-01 05:18
#47
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Latvia Frip! 
Nice logix
2018-10-01 07:16
#62
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Lithuania Tocha 
Liquid is not overrated, theyr really good, just no enough to take the finals Mouz is better tho
2018-10-01 13:06
+1
2018-10-01 16:55
#14
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Bulgaria AboveYall 
sori mi no spik mafs
2018-10-01 02:19
#18
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Myanmar AstralisGoat 
Liquid got a summit2 garbage tournament with no good teams in it, at least thats something but yes they are an amazing team that only chokes good old NA classic, surprising how they have always been more consistent than C9 yet C9 has more success and titles.
2018-10-01 02:21
all i want is for the NA CS meme to go away forever. goddamn it liquid why do you do this.
2018-10-01 02:24
#24
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Myanmar AstralisGoat 
Thing with Liquid is they just choke every time they have a chance to win something that has nothing to do with the meme, even if Liquid won 5 tournaments in a row that meme won't die because it's a classic meme that every one even some NA people love. Obviously everyone knows NA is a great country and it's just a meme you know what I mean.
2018-10-01 02:27
someday we’ll get our own tier one NA team, with blackjack and hookers
2018-10-01 02:38
#32
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Myanmar AstralisGoat 
At least you have 2 good teams NRG and Liquid, most of EU countries don't even have 1 tier 1 player let alone a team.
2018-10-01 02:42
#64
s1mple | 
Lithuania Makatas 
Well, maybe because most EU countries doesnt have 300m people.
2018-10-01 13:11
nice reference bro
2018-10-01 03:29
#35
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Finland vDogx 
You have the best na-fitball team at least annoying bishes tho
2018-10-01 04:02
#45
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Lithuania SiTyGas 
Yes, NA is a great country and Europe is a nice city..
2018-10-01 06:17
#48
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Brazil SecondKS 
Looool
2018-10-01 07:19
It will never
2018-10-01 10:29
#25
Zeus | 
Russia zonic_god 
ahahahha
2018-10-01 02:31
#27
Zeus | 
Russia zonic_god 
u made my day )))))
2018-10-01 02:32
Cs summit 2
2018-10-01 02:38
#54
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Ukraine niXoN|w1 
Tier 2
2018-10-01 09:17
+1 fokin rekt
2018-10-01 05:18
Liquid won cs summit
2018-10-01 13:07
#2
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Turkey headshotk1ng 
OKay
2018-10-01 02:05
okl
2018-10-01 02:05
#4
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Namibia banned_so 
eeasiest comeback of their life
2018-10-01 02:05
ChrisJ god
2018-10-01 02:06
ok *Guidelines: Act like a normal person.
2018-10-01 02:06
i didn’ting understand that meme?
2018-10-01 02:23
SuNny is a beast
2018-10-01 02:07
"we all had pressure except me I'm basically rain try to kick me bitch" is what he should have said.
2018-10-01 07:37
+1 lmao
2018-10-01 18:19
#9
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Finland Smoonah 
-seven +sunny
2018-10-01 02:08
#49
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Estonia RaimanS2k 
+1
2018-10-01 07:34
Why would he change his current montly 10k salary to 0 euros? Lmao...
2018-10-01 13:12
+1
2018-10-01 13:54
Goodguy mouz
2018-10-01 02:08
Lmao this is the guy who wants to kick Oscar and leave the team unless he got better team mates
2018-10-01 02:12
#15
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Myanmar AstralisGoat 
Nah the reason you won today is because Liquid are a choke team only event ever won by this org is some trash tier 7 summit2 house tournament where only decent team there was MiBR (before they had garbage NA players in the team) these guys lost so many finals and semi finals they are the new dignitas/tsm because Astralis #1 of all time no choke only win major.
2018-10-01 02:20
Lol nt fnatic best of all time but agree on liqiud being noob chokers
2018-10-01 10:30
#16
flusha | 
Germany felo 
NT sunny we all know liquid is cursed
2018-10-01 02:20
fallen needs to lift the curse or something
2018-10-01 02:26
#17
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Serbia dj9lelele 
I feel bad for STYKO ...
2018-10-01 02:21
#39
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Malta aidsss 
He is useless
2018-10-01 04:59
#56
JW | 
Austria winghaveN 
+1 snax at his top form is much better than styko and that is what makes mousesports more unpredictable
2018-10-01 10:17
#71
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Malta aidsss 
ofc hes better. hes smarter than styko and can kill people
2018-10-01 19:06
#19
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Sweden swedz2 
Fnatic so retarded to lose 14-4 train to 1-2 in maps
2018-10-01 02:22
yeah and xizt tactics on T Side.. he could have just tried a few timing hits on B site going in raw but no default every round and picked by double awp I Dont miss you xizt haha even lekr0 tactics better
2018-10-01 02:31
#34
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Sweden swedz2 
hade fått 2000 om dem vann 2-0, men aa fan va arga dem måste va nu :) horor
2018-10-01 03:50
+1 shows how close CS is nowadays, Mouz were 2 round from going out last but then they make 3 sick comebacks and win the tournament
2018-10-01 10:31
thank mr xizt and draken for goodsports win
2018-10-01 02:22
gg wp great history ve just begun
2018-10-01 02:33
#36
Snax | 
Netherlands linox1 
How long Smax is in the team? Already got trophy. Now we can laugh from VP.
2018-10-01 04:03
Truee.... without that comenack things would've changed
2018-10-01 04:06
#38
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United States 51438 
grats <3
2018-10-01 04:57
#40
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Argentina [Darkaren] 
As always fnatic making history.
2018-10-01 05:07
Mousesport should thanks fnatic
2018-10-01 05:08
Actually you should thank Liquid for handing the match to you after they had it won. Some things never change I guess.
2018-10-01 05:27
#46
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Europe Conq 
worst final with 2 trash chokers &jokers
2018-10-01 06:48
#50
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Finland Faifainei 
It was a back and forth game, quite enjoyable compared to a complete blowout by one of the teams
2018-10-01 07:35
more intresting than every astralis match
2018-10-01 08:11
+1
2018-10-01 10:42
#72
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Europe Conq 
yes its like tier god vs tier 1 , 2 etc.
2018-10-01 19:10
I hope they stay together and improve. It's not a fluke beating Liquid in a BO5
2018-10-01 08:44
so deserved!!! feeling happy for them and looking forward for their future
2018-10-01 09:44
Respect, hope they smack Astralis soon
2018-10-01 10:32
#67
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Switzerland hanniba1fade 
im so happy, it seems they want to stay together. go get more titles!
2018-10-01 14:02
Wow, this is a big one actually! STYKO even communicated for other players in certain situations, thats good to know, this is a big quality of a person caring.... "The biggest issue when Snax came in was communication, it wasn't that it was his fault. For example, there were a lot of situations when STYKO was on the team in which he would speak for other players. Like, if I'd push up mid and couldn't talk he was communicating and managing the players letting them know what's going to happen next. That changed when Snax joined, he communicates fine for himself, and he understands us, but removing Martin showed that our communication was flawed and that he was a big part of why we were successful. Also, if you change a more support-oriented player for one that likes to do things there are some details which change and have a big impact on rounds." (c)
2018-10-01 15:05
#73
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Poland mamba99999 
shots fired
2018-10-02 11:16
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