CS:GO update brings economy changes, CZ & Tec9 adjustments

MIRAA
October 10th, 2018 01:08

Valve has shipped out a new update for CS:GO that fine-tunes the CZ and the Tec9, while also bringing impactful changes to the economy.

A key gameplay change sees Valve adjust the start-of-the-half economy, with both teams beginning a half with a one-round losing streak, which is reset following a round win.

This means that the team losing the pistol round will receive $1900 instead of $1400, with subsequent losses earning them $2400, $2900 and $3400, which remains the maximum loss bonus. By giving the losing side more money early on, Valve aims to "reduce the impact of a pistol round win on subsequent rounds".

The CZ has been slightly tweaked to "encourage semi-automatic fire at medium and long ranges", while the Tec9 has been buffed to make the weapon "more forgiving at medium rates of fire." Moreover, the price of both the SG553 and the AUG has been reduced in an effort to make the scoped rifles more viable in competitive play.

Below you can find the complete changelog for the update:

[GAMEPLAY]
– Adjusted the start-of-half economy with the goal of reducing the impact of a pistol round win on subsequent rounds.
— In Competitive Matchmaking, both teams are now considered to start the half with a one-round ‘losing streak’ that is reset following a round win. Instead of $1400, the Round 1 loser receives $1900, then $2400 for a subsequent loss, etc.
— The start-of-half losing streak can be adjusted via “mp_starting_losses”

– CZ75a: Adjusted the CZ75a to encourage semi-automatic fire at medium and long ranges.
— increased recoil and fire inaccuracy
— slightly improved accuracy recovery rate

– Tec9: Adjustments to make the weapon more forgiving at medium rates of fire.
— reduced fire inaccuracy
— slightly improved accuracy recovery rate

– SG553 price reduced to $2750
– AUG price reduced to $3150

[MAPS]
– Austria is now available in Competitive Matchmaking.
– Austria has been moved into Group Delta in official Casual matchmaking.
– New Community maps Biome and Subzero are now available in Casual >matchmaking as part of Group Sigma.
– Canals has been removed from Competitive Matchmaking.
– Shipped and Insertion are no longer available in official matchmaking.

[AUDIO]
– Added a “VOIP Positional” audio setting. When this setting is enabled, in-game voice audio will be played from the position the player is standing at.

[MISC]
– Enabled mouse bindings for voice chat to work in end of match scoreboard.
– Fixed backlog of async events in scoreboard causing performance problems during gameplay.

#2
forsaken | 
Russia H423zZ 
Subzero <3
2018-10-10 01:11
#38
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Singapore Kerk 
They should call operation "Operation Blizzard" and then add subzero while improving overwatch
2018-10-10 01:13
#95
Norway Zo0r 
Wow
2018-10-10 01:31
Was insertion available in matchmaking? How?
2018-10-10 06:27
I think it was in casual matchmaking and has been removed.
2018-10-10 06:57
#264
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Netherlands HetIsPatat 
New meta: EVERYONE gets a scout after pistol loss)))
2018-10-10 07:25
Probably not but good try :)
2018-10-10 07:35
#285
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Netherlands HetIsPatat 
Ok. Thank Mr. Leopold Stotch(((
2018-10-10 07:54
#298
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Finland istop1 
people got it already this wont change it expect you dont have tokill anyone
2018-10-10 08:29
#299
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Netherlands HetIsPatat 
Except now all 5 people could have one, which wasn't possible before had you lost the PR*. *Assuming you bought, of course.
2018-10-10 08:32
#302
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Finland istop1 
well thats true but 5scouts dont make any sense :D
2018-10-10 08:35
#304
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Netherlands HetIsPatat 
Neither does Volvo.
2018-10-10 08:37
Great update ggwp
2018-10-10 11:38
#398
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Mongolia kEdnaCS 
Nice
2018-10-10 11:46
Actually couple of scouts are extremely viable option in multiple maps after lost pistol round if the entire team goes for a frocebuy. 2 scouts that try to only tag people, one guy with deagle and two guys with p250 and some flashes. Scout needs only one tag and after that one hit from deagle is enough to kill.
2018-10-10 14:11
#459
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Finland istop1 
yeah couple but not 5
2018-10-10 15:16
#461
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Finland istop1 
+ no p250 you have cz
2018-10-10 15:17
Furk :c I miss insertion so much
2018-10-10 08:03
#419
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Austria shaakeh 
EZ 4 Austria
2018-10-10 12:33
+1
2018-10-10 13:09
#355
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Europe bobo2k18 
I got you :D its really wow
2018-10-10 10:22
THIS IS THE BIG UPDATE that should've been released at FACEIT Major! I'm glad Valve listened to what the community got to say At least they've shown that they care about cs go. Some say Valve wanna buff Astralis, I'd say they want to change the meta of cs go, to show us more gun rounds than b4. This means that teams now have more chances to fight equally with smart-eco-calculating teams like Ast. Now Ast doesn't hold all the secrets of winning games for themselves, as the meta has changed. They (and other teams) have to explore new options in order to be good at this game. So excited to see how pro teams play with this
2018-10-10 03:35
Let's see.....cs is boring to watch for like after Boston major
2018-10-10 04:22
Well, it depends :P cs is quite one-sided lately cuz of "Astralis era". I hope the new meta will cut that out & see other teams rising against Ast. Let's see....
2018-10-10 04:43
Personally i think having a «superpower» like astralis in an otherwise very chaotic scene is good. I bet astralis fans are superhappy about it, and I know that someday one of the teams im cheering for might be in the same position. In all fairness the top teams arent really my concern, the real fun thing to watch in cs are the small teams climbing their way to the top, like Bravado, Optic India and The player ISSAA.
2018-10-10 07:10
We want year like 2017...where sk faze astralis ...all were very competitive...not like this boring 18
2018-10-10 07:26
Well, if you exclude Astralis then, the scene is still pretty competitive. Look at events without Ast like New York, StarSeries etc every game is a true battle you can't guess who's gonna be winner:D ENCE is a great phenomenon too I see no BORING stuff when I watch lower tier cs
2018-10-10 08:38
#421
apEX | 
France LaBaNaN 
+1, they are just angry kiddos that keeps spitting on cs, no matter what teams are dominating the game or what is the meta But they still following the game instead of leaving for another one
2018-10-10 12:38
Yeah, I know that they still love CS, so I don't blame them or anyone :D It's just human nature to resist change. Though most of the time, changes are good tbh
2018-10-10 14:31
#348
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South Africa FadeyGames 
<3
2018-10-10 10:15
#367
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India ag07 
I thin the same way! You forgot ENCE btw. Optic India <3
2018-10-10 10:49
#540
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Lithuania 7000won 
nice +1
2018-10-10 19:32
I want faze and sk back with astralis as 2017
2018-10-10 07:27
#396
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Turkey Slapdash 
YES
2018-10-10 11:44
Who cares tbh? If esports continues, then this game will either grow or this will be the mid-point of CS' time as a pro esport. The game means more than a lot of things to me but if it's the game's time then so be it.
2018-10-10 07:34
Pro CS is dead since 2015
2018-10-10 10:21
+1
2018-10-10 11:24
you know damn well hat if the update happened right before then people would be pissed off. "oh no fair 'x' team went out early because the entire meta changed and it effected them because of blah blah blah."
2018-10-10 07:32
#303
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United States 1mPeRvI0uS 
It's gonna be pretty much the same amount of gun rounds. Alternating force round would yield the same amount of gun rounds. The difference being that both 2nd/3rd force would be the same for the loser of the previous round, compared to where a 3rd round force team could have more $ to burn than a 2nd round force. The biggest change here, is that even without a plant, a T-side 3rd buy is viable on some maps.
2018-10-10 08:36
#336
Dosia | 
Hungary Joco413 
The difference is teams can actually buy rifles if they eco the 2nd round so they don't have to forcebuy or double eco.
2018-10-10 09:53
#541
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United States 1mPeRvI0uS 
That's exactly what I said :) And it's only really relevant for Ts. As a CT you'd have somewhere from 43 to 49ish and that's a bad buy on most maps. Nowadays Ts anyways have the ability to get a 3rd round buy with a plant in either the 1st or 2nd round. It's not like it's a 100% 3-0 rate anyways. Furthermore, this could lead to double force scenarios for the Ts that could still degrade the product. Namely get a plant in the 2nd round, and then you force again with 32 minimum in the 3rd. The most damning scenarios that force ecos are mid-game resets really. 4th round resets specifically. At 3-1 down, you have only 1400 to work with potentially as a CT. This update doesn't change that (and rightfully so imo). The punishing economic model is what built CS into the game it is today. This is still a minor change, but it won't necesarilly yield the benefits they are expecting. It merely changes things, and would change the ways SMGs are used today.
2018-10-10 19:35
#333
Dosia | 
Hungary Joco413 
Actually Astralis is even better with this update. Now you can no longer beat them by winning both pistols.
2018-10-10 09:51
#364
Xyp9x | 
Denmark topres 
+1
2018-10-10 10:41
Tbh astralis has been winning a lot of games because of winning both pistol rounds.
2018-10-10 14:18
#456
Dosia | 
Hungary Joco413 
Like when they won 16-0 vs mibr? :D
2018-10-10 15:09
but still they won both pistol rounds xDDDDDDDD
2018-10-10 16:42
i agree
2018-10-12 13:22
#141
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Europe traqqi 
good changes all around
2018-10-10 01:57
Yeah they're interesting and seem to be fairly well calculated... new meta
2018-10-10 03:21
Broken game again, welcome back RUSH-9 and CZ:GO. Good: $50 extra for scope riffle Bad: economy update Good: Tec-9 back Bad: CZ:GO - buff even more OP pistol to be OP to square Good: -Canals Good: +New maps
2018-10-10 02:01
0/8 did you test the new cz ?????? its trash af
2018-10-10 02:04
0/8 bait
2018-10-10 02:12
Not bait. It can't spray at all. You'll be lucky if you get a multi kill with it after this update.
2018-10-10 07:00
#261
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Finland Smoonah 
its still fine in pistol rounds
2018-10-10 07:22
I prefer armor over cz. Or get someone to be my bitch and buy me a cz when I have armor lol
2018-10-10 07:33
#306
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Finland Smoonah 
yea I haven't really experimented much with it other than a few times without armor...
2018-10-10 08:38
#323
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Europe tweekzter 
I didn't see much difference close range and you don't spray it on medium / long ranges anyway, as it was always having a horrible and unreliable spray pattern. But I do feel, that bursts are more accurate on longer distances now.
2018-10-10 09:31
#146
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United States gtmaniacmda 
SG553 and AUG meta INC.
2018-10-10 02:05
I think pros gunna buy AUG as CT but as T nope
2018-10-10 02:13
maybe... SG is 1 shot tho
2018-10-10 02:57
#187
JZFB | 
Australia legesex 
So is ak
2018-10-10 03:44
#193
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China Slasher8888 
it does have 100% armor penetration
2018-10-10 03:59
but sg can be better accurary at the first shot with best aim.. not sure if this will change since pros have pretty good aim, no need for scope
2018-10-10 04:00
Nathan born killer still wrecks at long range unscoped xD
2018-10-10 05:46
#452
JZFB | 
Australia legesex 
only shroud wouldve used it
2018-10-10 14:32
#158
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Europe traqqi 
-9999
2018-10-10 02:29
#159
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Indonesia Astranesia 
Stfu stop complaing ffs
2018-10-10 02:29
Have u tested CZ? U can kill guy in pit on DD2 from Goose if is without helmet
2018-10-10 02:31
#198
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United States SmokaDaWeEDs 
Any pistol can kill someone 1 shot with no helmet. Glock is the only one u can't unless u shoot them in the face but yea that was a stupid comment
2018-10-10 04:20
eXdee
2018-10-10 05:46
#292
World doh 
long distance max range, usp cant kill 98/99 damage
2018-10-10 08:13
You can still kill ppl on d2 form a site - pit. The range u need to not 1tap with usp/p2000 w/o helmet is insane.
2018-10-10 10:51
#385
World doh 
from t base to mid double door dust2 ;) thats why i wrote "max distance"
2018-10-10 11:31
not true, from a site to pit you can't 1tap with usp
2018-10-10 14:24
rly ? i thought i saw a Video, where they described that you could 1tap with usp from a site to pit.. maybe it was deagle on helmet from a site to pit - dunno exactly
2018-10-10 14:28
in dm I constantly goosh people from pit to site or site to pit with the usp :/ 96 in 1-ish
2018-10-10 19:58
#163
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United States Venom_ 
CZ is poo poo retard
2018-10-10 02:35
"slightly improved accuracy recovery rate" now u dont spam at long distance and accuracy is amazing, first test the pistol then complain about my post
2018-10-10 02:36
#173
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United States Venom_ 
i did test it any pistol like the five seven can tap fire fast at far range retard
2018-10-10 02:51
#204
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United Kingdom shmilx 
CZ seems more balanced in my first few games, good spam weapon at close and OK at tapping or very short bursts at medium and long range, I still think the long range accuracy should be toned down even more because it's a (non-deagle) pistol
2018-10-10 04:37
They didn't buff the cz, just a side-grade
2018-10-10 03:26
#217
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United States Degree|CSGO 
They didn’t buff it they reworked it. I made the mistake the first time I read it too but they just decreased the spray accuracy and increased tap fire
2018-10-10 05:52
The CZ is getting nerfed. That wont make people use it more. The tec9 is almost never used as is, so making slightly better seems like a good idea.
2018-10-10 11:18
#197
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India MihirX27 
De_Biome!!!
2018-10-10 04:13
#3
JD | 
Poland HooDlesxd 
Lol
2018-10-10 01:09
FINALLY NO MORE WIN PISTOL -> COMEBACK FROM SCORE 4-11 THX THX THX THX I WILL MAKE A LIVING FROM BETS NOW I WILL NEVER LOSE A SINGLE BET NOW
2018-10-10 02:13
#446
smooya | 
Sweden jackir 
yebout that if you consistenlty bet on the teams that get 11-4 ur gonna win bets anyway cuz u consistently bet on the right teams
2018-10-10 14:13
N1
2018-10-10 01:09
Im going to be honest I dont disagree with any of these changes
2018-10-10 01:52
#325
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Europe tweekzter 
Not sure about AUG / SG tho. I don't want a scope meta
2018-10-10 09:34
What’s with this stigma against scoped weapons? They’re both fun af. This game has been stale for too long, and some dumbass stingy change of 50$ doesn’t make a difference at all. It needs to be more than 50, probably 100-150$. You’re lucky cause the scope era will come back sooner or later, just Valve are being dumb again as usual.
2018-10-10 13:01
#430
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Europe tweekzter 
Scoped weapons just don't feel right in CS. It's always been about clean first person shooter mechanics.
2018-10-10 13:05
Scoped weapons have never been a part of CS? Sniping is scoped shooting my friend lmao. If people want to argue that idea, why isn't AWPing mentality reversed and people complain about it killing in one shot where we should be using scoped rifles because in theory it would take more skill to kill with those rather than using a 1 shot cheese weapon?
2018-10-10 13:50
#436
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Europe tweekzter 
Scoped weapons are in game, but they are usually disregarded. Sniper rifles are another topic. They have massive downsides despite being one-click scope weapons. Miss one shot and you gotta pray, or stay in save spots. They can be countered with smokes, flashes etc. They are well balanced. Scope rifles on the other hand, just don't fit in IMO.
2018-10-10 13:56
Everything can be countered with proper utility, that's a really weak argument. Any gun will need proper safe spots to be in so you avoid death. I can also argue that if you miss your spray you have to do the same two things. Scoped weapons are balanced and if anything, definitely need to be cheaper because there's no incentive to buy those upgrades because they're still too fucking expensive, and so that's already too much of a risk to use for those upgrades. So now it comes down to either decreasing the cost until players start considering the perks of them to be worth the money they pay, or they buff the perks the rifles have, which I don't think they should except maybe an extra 2-4 points of damage. They fit, it's just people are too dense to try new things; they like using what the pros use cause they think it'll magically help them become better. They actually just take their configs like it'll help. Same shit applies to the rifles.
2018-10-10 14:01
#478
REZ | 
Sweden katt1n 
Let's add the tactical nuke to CS:GO. Make it cost 16k and grant an instant ace. Because you arent too dense to want to try new things, are you?
2018-10-10 17:28
Sick strawman. You’re fucking dense because your example is a massive hyperbole in the first place LMFAO. Nice education bro.
2018-10-10 17:29
#481
REZ | 
Sweden katt1n 
How is this a strawman? You are disregarding every argument against your point as people being too dense to try new things. I turned your argument against you and you cry ;_;
2018-10-10 18:17
No. You assumed right off the bat and made a hyperbole. Maybe if you brought up a rational counter point like the fact that apparently no one realizes the SG is a 3 shot body kill with kevlar at medium range and the price for it is now 2,750$ meaning that it has all those bonuses for just 50$ is kind of weird, I would've given a shit, but no. You don't know how to debate, and you didn't turn shit around. Try again.
2018-10-10 18:19
#5
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Lithuania KoksSkirtumas 
EZ4ENCE
2018-10-10 01:09
yes
2018-10-10 05:23
+1
2018-10-10 10:09
The top teams are too lazy to beat Astralis. In my prime that would've gone without saying. I had no more than a week off CS in a whole year and I expected the same from my teammates - HeatoN
2018-10-10 01:09
#50
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Poland Bartek19D 
Who the fuck is Heaton?
2018-10-10 01:14
The real cs god Edit: i hate my phone
2018-10-10 01:24
Heaton's overrated as fuck
2018-10-10 01:35
sure
2018-10-10 01:47
The meta was hardly established when he played
2018-10-10 01:48
still managed to dominate despite chaos
2018-10-10 01:49
yes he was the best 1.6 player at this time
2018-10-10 10:15
He barely played 1.6....
2018-10-10 10:24
i think by 1.6 he means beta versions, 1.1, 1.3, 1.5 and 1.6 even though these versions of the games were very different and highlighted different skill sets and players
2018-10-10 14:02
the real god was SpawN sorry
2018-10-10 14:17
Thorin's Thoughts - Who is HeatoN?: youtube.com/watch?v=arkar9Imayw
2018-10-10 01:26
YouTuber
2018-10-10 01:36
#259
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Netherlands HetIsPatat 
Who the fuck is neo???? What the fuck is pasha?????
2018-10-10 07:17
#467
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Poland Bartek19D 
They are fucking bots
2018-10-10 16:01
Didn't ask
2018-10-10 01:25
if you want CS and esports to be respected as an industry, you cannot demand absurd working + travel hours of 60,70,80 a week, with no holiday time/sick leave/ paid leave.
2018-10-10 01:28
Players are free to have those benefits at the cost of their salary. But everyone wants highest possible salary. I doubt it's very bad for the top players. They already have player break regardless, some choosing to skip events, and if it's illness or whatever players aren't forced to play as someone stands in. RUBINO had a shitty situation with his eyes and now being benched as it took too long. So he still gets paid or else there would be no contract but obviously he won't return to the active lineup which wouldn't happen in a normal job.
2018-10-10 01:43
um, pretty much every sport is like cs lol, annual breaks, travelling, no holiday times and i bet you like most sports, they get paid when sick
2018-10-10 01:57
#201
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United States SmokaDaWeEDs 
People play that much because they know any day can be their last. You only last in this game for so long. Make all the cash you can before you can no longer play it. It's just like any commission job honestly
2018-10-10 04:23
+1
2018-10-10 11:23
#7
Myanmar xdcc 
EZ for Imperial. They lose every pistol so valve gave them $500 at the start of each half. Thank you Gaben, very cool. "...effort to make the scoped rifles more viable in competitive play." Gaben, wtf. VOIP positional. Gaben, fuck off with your battleroyale. Voice enabled at end of match. Cancer begins. All in all 8/10 not enough graffiti drops.
2018-10-10 01:18
#40
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Paraguay HighAIching 
but poor gambit always lose anti eco after pistol win already and now they made it even harder :(
2018-10-10 01:13
#48
Myanmar xdcc 
New meta lose pistols on purpose?
2018-10-10 01:14
#240
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Finland James Nelson 
Ye, first round eco then force 2nd round everytime
2018-10-10 06:34
Seems risky. A better plan would be just to win as many rounds as possible
2018-10-10 11:27
#401
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Finland James Nelson 
Maybe byt i dont make the meta, this is what wil l happwn
2018-10-10 11:48
#125
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Australia JingleBells 
Imperial really need to work on their pistols and utility usage.
2018-10-10 01:46
Voice is not enabled so u can hear enemy team during warmup, half time and the end off a match like the old days. Learn to read brah
2018-10-10 06:00
i talked About that with a friend 2 days ago, now ist back. Let the flame begin
2018-10-10 08:23
It isn't back.
2018-10-10 08:51
Did i get something wrong ?
2018-10-10 10:46
Yes, you can't talk to enemy teams, you just weren't able to talk to your own team anymore once final scoreboard was up Now you can
2018-10-10 16:04
thx bruv <3
2018-10-10 16:29
Exactly like DatingExpert said is the update.
2018-10-10 17:52
" Enabled mouse bindings for voice chat to work in end of match scoreboard" this has nothing to do with hearing the other team lmao.
2018-10-10 07:07
Ok
2018-10-10 09:39
+1. :D
2018-10-10 07:59
"Voice enabled at end of match. Cancer begins." It's for people who had mousebinds like me and couldn't use microphone when the match ended, learn to read
2018-10-10 10:26
Ok read above
2018-10-10 10:34
voice is enabled at end of match=?
2018-10-10 12:37
nah, I was mistaken. I think its controlling player volume or something idk havent tested
2018-10-10 19:25
No, previously there was a bug where if you had your mic button set to a button on your mouse, it would not work on the "end of match" screen. This has been fixed.
2018-10-11 14:52
#8
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United Kingdom KouDaPou 
OMG
2018-10-10 01:09
#9
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Hungary Ilove2bait 
YAAAAAAAY
2018-10-10 01:09
wow
2018-10-10 01:09
#11
k0nfig | 
Denmark QDouble 
Game changer
2018-10-10 01:10
Yup, but its just so little buff for the COD guns.
2018-10-10 06:20
It's a buff nonetheless.
2018-10-10 07:07
this buff gives alot, its good
2018-10-10 08:07
I'm down for these changes
2018-10-10 01:10
#45
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Switzerland BottomFragger 
so am I. the idea of starting the pistol with a 1 round losing streak has been in my mind for a while and I'm curious how it plays out hope the cz and tec9 were adjusted well since those two were never in a good state, either way too powerful or not enough
2018-10-10 01:14
I think its a solid idea keeping the pistol rounds in the game while also making it more recoverable if lost
2018-10-10 01:39
Yeah they seem good, the pistol round adjustment seems like they’re finally listening to the pros who have said they want the pistol rounds to have less impact
2018-10-10 01:50
#202
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United States SmokaDaWeEDs 
Really i haven't heard of any pros saying that. I've heard the opposite. They like what the pistol round stands for. It's the most thought out round in the match.
2018-10-10 04:25
#311
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Denmark Derige 
In 2016 they made a stat on big events. Teams that won both pistols won 68% of games 9% Went to ovetime and 23% was lost. In my oppinion thats too hard to come back from.
2018-10-10 09:02
#343
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Spain N0Love 
And the most random ones, due to the lack of utility and the massive importance of headshots in aim duels, which increase the luck aspect of it.
2018-10-10 10:00
I agree. Seems like good changes all around. The pistol rounds are less vital now though still important. I'm excited about the SG and AUG changes too, it'd be fun if pros started using them a bit more.
2018-10-10 11:33
reeeeeeeee
2018-10-10 01:10
#15
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United States hltvconfirmed 
CZ is underpowered edit: Austrian CS maps LUL
2018-10-10 01:11
#16
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Poland b7ack0ut 
unexpected
2018-10-10 01:10
#17
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Portugal EL_N30n 
COD guns are now OP Oh........ok...........dumb
2018-10-10 01:10
#18
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China LoosSerine 
Wow...crap map
2018-10-10 01:10
#19
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France cedd 
the fuck
2018-10-10 01:10
#20
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China chineseplayer 
cz nerfed ?
2018-10-10 01:10
foO
2018-10-10 01:10
excelent!
2018-10-10 01:11
Not expected, well done Valve.
2018-10-10 01:11
#24
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United Kingdom Grenadr 
wow suck big time
2018-10-10 01:11
#25
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Belgium jorneiro 
Very interesting
2018-10-10 01:11
RIP insertion :(
2018-10-10 01:11
#27
gob b | 
Germany Koxky 
Solid Update. Thanks Volvo
2018-10-10 01:11
Fine tune my ass. Gtfo with this broken arcade.
2018-10-10 01:11
#29
TACO | 
Portugal NotRlyPT 
tec9 OP again?
2018-10-10 01:11
:v
2018-10-10 01:11
OKay , THIS IS GOOD , AUSTRIA IN COMPETETIVE = SICK Also ty for cz and sg553 tweaks :> Nice update
2018-10-10 01:11
breaking the money system and making anti ecos even more random OMEGALUL
2018-10-10 01:13
#64
Myanmar xdcc 
ENCE wins too many pistol rounds and even Gaben hates Finnish fans.
2018-10-10 01:21
It's just after pistol
2018-10-10 01:38
well, then make the pistol round even more obsolete..yawn. Same shit just less bad
2018-10-10 01:47
#231
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Poland ToxoFox 
Excuse me wtf( pistol rounds can make sure you win 33,3% of the rounds available
2018-10-10 06:26
Pistol rounds had way too much impact on the game. This is sooo much better.
2018-10-10 07:11
That's how it should be , it was already random enough with this OP pistols , now even more money..
2018-10-10 10:28
+1
2018-10-10 11:35
+1
2018-10-10 12:18
#33
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Portugal dracø 
Seems good in theory. Lets see how it goes
2018-10-10 01:12
#34
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North America Reed7hndx 
Subzero will be next comp map probably
2018-10-10 01:12
#35
TACO | 
Brazil gabriezz1 
SG and AUG at this price is a fucking joke.
2018-10-10 01:12
Magiskb0y likes this
2018-10-10 01:14
#82
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Russia otsu 
haha, agree
2018-10-10 01:27
#96
TACO | 
Brazil gabriezz1 
+1
2018-10-10 01:32
Yes. And NBK
2018-10-10 11:36
#222
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World nakTriceps 
VINI from FURIA likes this haha
2018-10-10 06:03
It's a great change/update. Hopefully those guns will be more competitive now.
2018-10-10 11:37
I think is a joke because this guns are very OP. For almost the same price... Is a joke.
2018-10-10 22:31
#36
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Germany probrot 
Not expected but interested
2018-10-10 01:12
Tec 9 is back?
2018-10-10 01:12
tec9meister
2018-10-10 03:53
vega squadron likes this
2018-10-10 01:13
rekt-9 is back
2018-10-10 01:13
#43
flusha | 
Netherlands davin 
In Competitive Matchmaking, both teams are now considered to start the half with a one-round ‘losing streak’ that is reset following a round win. Instead of $1400, the Round 1 loser receives $1900, then $2400 for a subsequent loss, etc. MAKES FORCEBUYS EVEN MORE STRONGER XD and AUSTRIA?? LMAO!! ADD SEASON,TUSCAN OR ANY GOOD MAP VOLVO R3TARDS
2018-10-10 01:21
Season is a trash map
2018-10-10 01:27
#89
flusha | 
Netherlands davin 
not really..
2018-10-10 01:28
Dramitically unbalanced and way toooooo big
2018-10-10 01:44
#123
flusha | 
Netherlands davin 
too big? maybe unbalanced? whats the problem? maybe u dont like it but calling it trash is too harsh if u think about all these garbage maps they had in operations
2018-10-10 01:46
Contra and Tuscan needed
2018-10-10 01:47
#137
Jesus | 
Czech Republic Jurys 
+1 i dont see the appeal at all
2018-10-10 01:53
i dont think the force buys on second round will be too often after this upadte when you can fullbuy on 3rd
2018-10-10 03:49
+1
2018-10-10 09:16
Unexpected
2018-10-10 01:14
Cool update
2018-10-10 01:14
rip cs
2018-10-10 01:15
#52
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United States evanie 
– SG553 price reduced to $2750 – AUG price reduced to $3150 winstrike tingling
2018-10-10 01:15
#53
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Czech Republic Pee_Tea 
-shitferno +austria PLEASE
2018-10-10 01:15
#71
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Denmark CRAM3R 
Inferno is really good? A map that more than others tells the difference between tactical Einsteins and the less geniuos player out there.
2018-10-10 01:23
"friendly tactical einstein deployed."
2018-10-10 11:01
#71
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Denmark CRAM3R 
Inferno is really good? A map that more than others tells the difference between tactical Einsteins and the less geniuos player out there.
2018-10-10 01:23
#474
Xyp9x | 
Portugal CRMN1 
Are you asking? He clearly doesn't think it's good.
2018-10-10 16:56
#54
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Europe KittyChamp 
RIP Canals
2018-10-10 01:15
#55
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Finland Tertzi 
+1 this is good. fuck random pistols deciding games
2018-10-10 01:16
#68
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Belgium Donderinho 
+1
2018-10-10 01:22
#223
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World nakTriceps 
MIBR is the worst top10 team on pistols, recently. This could help them a lot.
2018-10-10 06:06
+1
2018-10-10 11:51
Nip says hi
2018-10-10 12:19
#464
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World nakTriceps 
Same shit like MIBR on these rounds.
2018-10-10 15:29
+1
2018-10-10 11:39
nice!
2018-10-10 01:17
"reducing the impact of being better at the game"
2018-10-10 01:17
This Nothing like getting raped by lows that just shoot at your general direction
2018-10-10 01:45
#59
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Poland Kobel_ 
Really interesting update. I wonder if scope guns will start getting used more often in pro matches, that 250$ difference between old and new price reduces economic argument against them a lot.
2018-10-10 01:19
#66
SPUNJ | 
Latvia XYPyra 
I my oppinion AUG will be seen more than SG, because of spray pattern, +aug is better than m4s with bigger dmg and simular spray pattern, also scope is addition to this.
2018-10-10 01:21
I hope this'll make both SG and AUG more competitive and thus used more by pros. Seeing the pros using an even wider range of guns would be fun.
2018-10-10 11:44
#60
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Singapore SashaTr1ceps 
Good economy changes, but if you lose against forcebuy you are fucked xD
2018-10-10 01:19
You will get 1900 as well
2018-10-10 02:16
#169
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France cedd 
no you dont, if you win 1st round then lost to forcebuy 2nd round you get 1400
2018-10-10 02:42
Yes, you are right. I dont think this is the ideal change tbh
2018-10-10 03:41
#229
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Switzerland BlackH4ze 
But it makes the game especially in pro cs way more intense and entertaining.
2018-10-10 06:17
#475
Xyp9x | 
Portugal CRMN1 
I think it's logical. Pistol rounds are even in terms of economy. Losing a pistol round shouldn't have such impact since it's a balanced round. If you win the pistol you'll have economical advantage on the next round which makes it much more demanding to win since you've got the better arsenal on paper so if you drop that round, it's deserved to suffer the consequences.
2018-10-10 17:00
#228
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Turkey pardus 
this pretty much makes forcebuys unnecessary because you can buy 1 round earlier from now on i doubt we'll see them much
2018-10-10 06:17
#61
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Brazil hugoooo 
Grear change! Now pistols will be less important, that's awesome
2018-10-10 01:19
people dont realize the problem with the COD guns being so cheap. now ct can buy 1bullet HS gun and T can buy a 3 bullet spray gun for a lot cheaper
2018-10-10 01:20
#69
Myanmar xdcc 
But my scoped gameplay. I want R8 with a scope that you can't use.
2018-10-10 01:22
aug headshot almost never happens though in pro scene aug won’t be bought much unless playing really long angles, but if valve doesnt revert these changes we might see a slow meta change in 3-4 months also sg553 is the ultimate double edged sword. when a CT gets one he becomes fucking superman, so pros will buy/avoid buying accordingly
2018-10-10 03:05
does aug really do 1 shot hs ? i even dont know the augs mechanics after all these years i played lull
2018-10-10 03:12
#295
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Lithuania SiTyGas 
It doesnt. I think if the t has head armor, then it does -93 or something like that..
2018-10-10 08:23
Very close range, it does.
2018-10-10 09:56
#342
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Lithuania SiTyGas 
Who uses aug close range? Fight me bitch
2018-10-10 09:57
who uses aug anyway? still it does, you can try.
2018-10-10 11:47
#297
World doh 
m4 and AUG no ak and SG yes
2018-10-10 08:27
*MLG HORN* *MLG HORN* SG META *MLG HORN* *MLG HORN*
2018-10-10 01:21
#67
NBK- | 
France uria64 
Nerf the keck9 Wait 2 years Buff it LUL
2018-10-10 01:21
#75
Myanmar xdcc 
You have to wait for the data. They forgot to look at data but it's all good now.
2018-10-10 01:23
#70
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Brazil Collee 
Put CZ in the deagle spot ffs. This would make people doubt what pistol to pick. With only $500 and the other pistols being 57 and tec9 it's an easy choice
2018-10-10 01:32
#74
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Malaysia byaIi 
Subzero after 1 year but its o k
2018-10-10 01:23
#78
steel | 
Belarus Ruble 
aka pistol rounds doesnt matter anymore
2018-10-10 01:25
People have been complaining about that forever now
2018-10-10 01:32
They do matter, just less so. Good update.
2018-10-10 11:48
#80
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Ukraine gungrave 
Biome Kreygasm
2018-10-10 01:27
What a joke, SG553 was better against armour and the recoil is easier to control anyways. Now it's like $50 more than AK only
2018-10-10 01:27
#90
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Germany zeolikk 
You get easier recoil, full armor penetration and a scope (better range) for 50$ more... OR YOU BUY 1 AK AND A DECOY
2018-10-10 01:28
The problem is that I don't actually want the SG553 to become the pro meta, otherwise more and more COD kids will be trying out "cheap COD PC"
2018-10-10 01:30
#120
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Germany zeolikk 
true
2018-10-10 01:45
And when they find out the gun has recoil. OMG THIS GAME IS BROKEN AND HAS BROKEN UNREALISTIC SHOOTING I UNINSTALL NOW
2018-10-10 02:00
Good. We don't need the toxic cod community in our games. Let them uninstall.
2018-10-10 07:19
#84
HUNDEN | 
Other ToRu 
thanks mr. dev
2018-10-10 01:27
#85
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Germany zeolikk 
Great update, gj devs. Economy Update is amazing
2018-10-10 01:27
#86
smooya | 
United Kingdom trtr098 
Tec9 SG553 era is here
2018-10-10 01:27
#87
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Germany PeKay 
Adjusted the start-of-half economy with the goal of reducing the impact of a pistol round win on subsequent rounds finally
2018-10-10 01:27
#109
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CIS sharovoy 
Now as a T you want to save $800 on the 1st round, plant the bomb and lose pistol round [3500 in the bank after that]. Force buy, win and it's an easy 3-1 with great economy. GG Volvo.
2018-10-10 01:40
Planting the bomb without investing any money is hard enough and winning the force buy is not that easy. Before it was, planting the bomb, winning the pistol and start 3:0 with great economy.
2018-10-10 02:04
Subzero went official, expected
2018-10-10 01:29
we cod now xddddddddddddddddddddddddddd
2018-10-10 01:29
+1 no idea why they need aug and sg553 there i also rarely see SCAR20 and G3SG1 in competetive play, only as trolling, why not to reduce their price?
2018-10-10 07:34
+1
2018-10-10 09:39
Are you seriously asking to reduce autosniper price? Think again
2018-10-10 10:59
are you seriously asking am i seriously asking?
2018-10-10 12:02
#463
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Portugal mrsc 
A U T I S M
2018-10-10 15:28
yes you.
2018-10-10 15:39
so its realistically possible for ts to lose first round be able to full buy on second?
2018-10-10 01:30
nah, u still get way too low money
2018-10-10 01:34
if you buy 2 flashes and bruteforce a site you get 3.5-3-8k per player with plant. add in a kill and it's a full buy, even if you lose.
2018-10-10 01:44
Welp, full buy in general includes nades xdd... Now it is quite obvious that would not be possible tho so I suppose you just meant being able to get good rifle and some armor which indeed would be possible with plant yes, however seems not worth risk I suppose considering plant is not rly something you can expect to get.
2018-10-10 01:51
you can't spray down 5 people in csgo, especially on gun round. so even if you lose 3 people on the entry as t, you'll still be able to buy if you get the bomb down. you can't get full utility on every player, but it's still insane. as ct you can get awp on 3rd round.
2018-10-10 01:58
#97
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Bulgaria vectralsoul 
Here come the COD memes.
2018-10-10 01:32
#98
Lekr0 | 
Peru synergy_ 
NOW THIS IS F##### COD WHY VALVE WHY
2018-10-10 01:32
i think rip smg's
2018-10-10 01:35
nice time to start quick scoping with the aug
2018-10-10 01:37
#112
D0cC | 
Netherlands @Deji 
Good update
2018-10-10 01:42
The sg 553 shoots faster than the ak (666rpm vs 600), has much better accuracy standing/crouching than the ak even without using the scope. It also one taps to far distances like the ak as well. SO WHY DO YOU NOT USE THE SG553?
2018-10-10 01:48
Because you move slower 215 vs 210. Plus the scope is sluggish. Though I think AUG will definitely see more use in maps like Nuke. Idk about SG.
2018-10-10 01:51
Problem with buying an sg on t side is that dropping it to a ct can be rly deadly. Risky buy
2018-10-10 02:08
+1 better than AK on t side but you risk giving a ct the superman gun because they don’t suffer as much from the speed penalty
2018-10-10 03:06
#226
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World nakTriceps 
Speed penalty?
2018-10-10 06:13
you walk slower with sg553. this makes you easier to shoot when peeking corner but your sidestrafe is faster which lets you shoot faster as well meanwhile ct stand still scope in and tappy tappy dinky dink
2018-10-10 06:31
#462
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World nakTriceps 
Oh, I got it now. Tks
2018-10-10 15:27
#309
NiKo | 
Poland Jaruzel 
No 1-shot potential.
2018-10-10 08:54
WRONG the SG one shots as far as the AK, it’s been like this for over 3 years noob.
2018-10-10 10:33
#476
f0rest | 
Italy _VAC_ 
noob
2018-10-10 17:04
Ffs gaben should change eyeglasses not buff the scoped guns.
2018-10-10 01:43
Great changes tbh
2018-10-10 01:44
Thanx, mr GabeN.
2018-10-10 01:44
#124
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Turkey Payynnkilla 
Canals XDDD
2018-10-10 01:46
i think the price of ssg and aug is too cheap. make it 2800 and 3200 is best.
2018-10-10 01:47
Mibr fixed since they lose every single pistol round
2018-10-10 01:49
#136
NEO | 
Russia melelele 
VOLVO BUY RUSSIAN ESCAPE FROM TARKOV AND PUT GUNS TO CSGO WITH MODS!!!
2018-10-10 01:53
Interesting! GJ Valve
2018-10-10 01:57
#147
jokes | 
Brazil on_you 
Very nice actually
2018-10-10 02:05
Like anti-ecos weren't already challenging enough. For fuck's sake, why not just give both teams 16k at the start of the half then? There needs to be consequences if you lose!
2018-10-10 02:07
anti-force buys*
2018-10-10 02:28
Ha! Good catch. I forgot we don't even have real ecos anymore either since they can always buy armor and a game-breaking pistol and hide in a corner.
2018-10-10 02:31
There will be more second round full eco rounds after this update, especially on the ct side. Correction: both sides.
2018-10-10 02:46
There's actually no point for force buy now. If you save money at the 2nd round then you can buy at the 3rd.
2018-10-10 06:02
#224
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United States SmokaDaWeEDs 
Correction I fucked katie
2018-10-10 06:07
Lil dicky ??
2018-10-10 07:15
#469
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United States SmokaDaWeEDs 
Charley Murphy. Dave chapelle skit. Mad real world
2018-10-10 16:18
Now maxrounds down to 13 instead 16.
2018-10-10 02:19
Lol CZ is back BOIIIIIS
2018-10-10 02:22
tec9 meister is back xD
2018-10-10 02:24
Canals removed from competitive matchmaking. Fuck that
2018-10-10 02:32
it should never have been there in the first place.
2018-10-10 02:46
I have good memories of playing comp on that map
2018-10-10 03:26
DANK!
2018-10-10 02:37
where is fking operation
2018-10-10 02:40
i think soon
2018-10-10 03:04
Thanks mr valve. Nerf pistol rounds ffs !!!
2018-10-10 02:40
#170
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France cedd 
tec9 rush b boys ez
2018-10-10 02:43
REK9 IS BACK SUBZERO AND AUSTRIA LET'S GO !!!
2018-10-10 02:48
#178
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Argentina nymeros 
idk why not bring back old maps from 1.6 instead of make new ones
2018-10-10 03:10
They are community made. Unless you're talking about canals which then yea it's pretty trash lol.
2018-10-10 07:27
Bring Mansion back
2018-10-10 11:57
#427
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Latvia latvianguy 
TUSCAN
2018-10-10 12:53
#603
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Argentina nymeros 
Forgive me but I loved to play Survivor and Piranesi
2018-10-10 20:31
gotta test this shit out nice economy update i guess. cts are really gonna cry now
2018-10-10 03:11
— In Competitive Matchmaking, both teams are now considered to start the half with a one-round ‘losing streak’ that is reset following a round win. Instead of $1400, the Round 1 loser receives $1900, then $2400 for a subsequent loss, etc. b1ad3 just killed himself i guess.
2018-10-10 03:32
#211
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Nepal TYZ4 
Why?
2018-10-10 05:41
Gambot usually loses against every force buy.
2018-10-10 05:42
Games still ass after alll these years damn
2018-10-10 03:44
Rip czgo welcome tec9meister ez4mibr cant win a single pistol round welcome again aug week my old friend
2018-10-10 03:49
This is gonna make CT economy tight af. Winning a round with 3 losses or more is nothing different to losing it, and buffed tec9 is sure to make CT not so comfortable as before.
2018-10-10 03:54
#195
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Serbia dukeny 
Lol, can't wait for force buy upseting on scene
2018-10-10 04:09
I really like this update. CSGO needed some changes to the meta. It's become so fucking boring lately.
2018-10-10 04:12
cheaper cod guns mean, rip long peek..
2018-10-10 04:21
For ct or t
2018-10-10 05:44
T
2018-10-10 10:31
#203
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China Yao_Ming 
interesting so if you lose round 1 +2 you get $4300 say you lose first round pistol t side, why not full save round 2 and get AK's /armor/smoke/flash round 3?
2018-10-10 04:35
#225
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United States SmokaDaWeEDs 
That's what will happen
2018-10-10 06:09
about time I swear the pistol round had too much of an impact!
2018-10-10 04:46
Hmm sick update! The Tec-9 is really nice now imo.
2018-10-10 05:01
#208
BnTeT | 
Australia reeeee 
This is huge wtf
2018-10-10 05:14
I dont understand Tec9>cz75 now? Im not home tell me someone
2018-10-10 05:25
i tried it on aim botz and i still prefer the cz
2018-10-10 05:53
#216
tarik | 
Iraq lazrEx 
noice
2018-10-10 05:46
Its bascially: cz gone back to tec9. 57 as ct anyways
2018-10-10 05:59
#227
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World euqin 
GABEN, WE'RE NOT SELLING ENOUGH AUG/SSG SKINS!!! Gaben: hold my beer
2018-10-10 06:15
+1
2018-10-10 09:40
+1
2018-10-10 12:00
#232
shox | 
Vietnam buai 
No more CZ:GO
2018-10-10 06:26
Finally sensible update
2018-10-10 06:27
Bring back aztec ffs
2018-10-10 06:31
#242
tabseN | 
Germany Ratwar 
YES PLS
2018-10-10 06:53
Vertigo more like it.
2018-10-10 07:30
Unexpected
2018-10-10 06:33
Wow nice
2018-10-10 06:33
lol rip canals
2018-10-10 06:33
#241
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Brazil 16|0 
KEK-9
2018-10-10 06:51
#243
tabseN | 
Germany Ratwar 
makes no sense for me there are so much second rounds where the losers of the pistols round winning atm. :thinking:
2018-10-10 06:54
+1.
2018-10-10 08:03
#245
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World leraq 
Its because of the best csgo analyst by far, Dunkan Thoorin Shields! Awesome
2018-10-10 07:00
#247
gob b | 
Germany miinus 
128 tick in matchmaking when? Also wtf now everyone gotta learn ssg/aug
2018-10-10 07:00
BRING THE OLD MAPS BACK MILL & TUSCAN!!
2018-10-10 07:01
#428
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Latvia latvianguy 
DOOR STUCK
2018-10-10 12:54
These retards changed economy lmao
2018-10-10 07:02
#252
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Hong Kong j0sean 
Great update , they are listening the community
2018-10-10 07:08
#253
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Hungary raffai 
OMFG WTF HAPPENING
2018-10-10 07:09
> – Tec9: reduced fire inaccuracy ADADAD faggots are striking again.
2018-10-10 07:16
why remove Insertion? just remove agency and youre ok
2018-10-10 07:17
maybe because agency is played more than insertion..
2018-10-10 09:43
#262
shox | 
India iejesus 
Thank
2018-10-10 07:24
#263
cyx | 
Russia Whatery 
eee boy
2018-10-10 07:25
R.I.P Second round force-buy
2018-10-10 07:29
You can go ump + half armour now
2018-10-10 07:46
UMP trash gun
2018-10-10 07:46
#269
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Russia the501 
that is interesting, pistol rounds have no more streng like before
2018-10-10 07:29
#271
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Europe Ringwraith 
Best operation ever
2018-10-10 07:31
this is pretty huge,love the CZ nerf,now you cant run and spray that well
2018-10-10 07:32
Economy thing is bigger i think!
2018-10-10 07:39
This is huge
2018-10-10 07:38
#280
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Ukraine minemax 
CZ was just ridiculous...
2018-10-10 07:41
Canals FeelsBadMan
2018-10-10 07:51
#284
Zeus | 
Finland Olter 
Wild west nightmare 2.0
2018-10-10 07:53
They should do steels suggestion of having a 5th grenade slot just for a decoy
2018-10-10 07:59
#291
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Finland Vkims 
Rip canals best map ever
2018-10-10 08:11
Rip pistol round losses max 1400$
2018-10-10 08:16
tec9 buffed? EVERYONE WANTED IT FUCKING NERFED AND THEY GOT IT, AND NOW U BUFF IT? gg valve, might aswell stop updating the game
2018-10-10 08:18
#321
NiKo | 
Poland Jaruzel 
It was completely useless lately, they over-nerfed it.
2018-10-10 09:28
#409
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Sweden Trkmag 
+1
2018-10-10 12:02
They made it too weak, now they are trying to make it useable again.
2018-10-10 10:31
#300
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Ukraine ph3n0m3n 
AUG 3100? Lmao. I can see people buy it A LOT to hold long range with rifle
2018-10-10 08:32
i think we fucking got it boys, the operation we wanted, here "it" is, they have found yet another way to dissapoint us, make these basic ass changes that took them an hour to work on and disguise it as a big update
2018-10-10 08:35
I rather get a decent update than an operation.
2018-10-10 09:08
but is this one? it took them max an hour with changes the community has been begging for for years i miss the time we could expect an operation that brought a bunch of changes every other month
2018-10-10 09:15
There have been a lot of big updates in the last few months. Not many 6 year old games get updated this frequently and the updates have been quite good too. People will always complain anyway.
2018-10-10 09:48
#375
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Portugal xxxRUI75xxx 
+1. If you count the last few months, including this update, we have had a new UI, a new weapon (the mp5), two new maps and some substantial changes to the game economy. I have always found operations pretty boring TBH and if Valve continues to update the game at this rate I will not even care if we never get any operation again...
2018-10-10 11:04
#308
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Finland Lassius 
Decent update, now a new operation
2018-10-10 08:52
+1
2018-10-10 12:03
#310
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Sweden plikz 
does this mean that i finally can go pro in cs?
2018-10-10 08:57
#313
chrisJ | 
United Kingdom dv-_- 
Why not just add Subzero to competitive? If they are wanting to test the map I don't really think Casual players will be the best for providing feedback, just let us play it properly and fix stuff along the way
2018-10-10 09:09
matchmakers arent either
2018-10-10 09:15
#330
chrisJ | 
United Kingdom dv-_- 
true, but its certainly better than Casual. Atleast it'll be played in a 5on5 format
2018-10-10 09:41
#314
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Europe trey_ 
poggers
2018-10-10 09:09
- CZ - scout - p90 - ruski + good servers
2018-10-10 09:10
aug and sg silver weapons stop encouraging use
2018-10-10 09:11
#320
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Sri Lanka lotwterran 
R.I.P. operation Subzero :(
2018-10-10 09:28
Oh shit!
2018-10-10 09:30
GOOOD but... Sg 2750$ :OOO
2018-10-10 09:33
Olof olof meister tec9 meister
2018-10-10 09:41
"Okay, smithz dont buy anything first round, when we lose pistols you buy AK for shox"
2018-10-10 09:51
#335
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World breezy0 
why valve doesnt understand that the competitive community doesnt want SHITTY SCOPED WEAPONS?! if i wanted to play run and gun scoping game i would play cod not cs wtf valve, they should not be viable weapons just fun weapons
2018-10-10 09:52
they need this update or all casual cs players will go play black ops 4 bro its smart chess move
2018-10-10 09:54
#339
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World breezy0 
the casual players jump on every new game anyway.. play a few weeks cod then it gets boring and come back to cs
2018-10-10 09:55
ye ok this is true... but its decent try from valve
2018-10-10 09:56
Just ugrade the servers then? Or just change something in ranks. Add something new. Even reseting all the ranks is ok.
2018-10-10 12:48
yes habibi, all of these pls valve. but nooo operations! skins! so good
2018-10-10 12:49
We do want scoped weapons though. And if they're shitty, like you say, then don't worry, people won't buy them. This is good for the competitive scene, you want an even wider range of guns used, more fun that way.
2018-10-10 12:11
#423
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World breezy0 
but scoped cs is shit, it's not cs and it's not good for the game. they just make cs another random product like cod
2018-10-10 12:43
I disagree. In any case, SG and AUG will most likely only be used slightly more, I think most people will still prefer the AK and M4.
2018-10-10 12:46
#454
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Germany nam_cs 
+1
2018-10-10 15:03
#454
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Germany nam_cs 
+1
2018-10-10 15:03
#338
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North America Techno_Lover 
Stop fucking up the game Valve.
2018-10-10 09:54
#344
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Germany Tunio 
If they make everyone playing with these autistic scope weapons im fucking done
2018-10-10 10:01
#372
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World breezy0 
+1
2018-10-10 10:58
#408
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Sweden Trkmag 
+1
2018-10-10 12:01
You can still buy whatever you want. The SG and AUG are only good in certain situations. But lets hope that this update will make some of the angry/toxic gamers out there quit all together.
2018-10-10 12:16
CZ and Tek9 have different philosophy than Deagle. There are good in mobile fights and some ppl can use them more effective. We don't need all weapons to be "stand still and shoot" and there are plenty of them. More "mobility" in scgo!
2018-10-10 10:05
#371
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World breezy0 
more "mobility" like you call it = more lowskill if you want "mobility" go play call of duty with your gamepad but don't destroy the last competitive shooter pls
2018-10-10 10:57
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2018-10-10 12:42
#346
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Faroe Islands memento_1 
did they just srsly buff the cz? "reduce impact of pistol rounds" dont worry valve my mates always manage to lose the 2nd round after winning pistol.
2018-10-10 10:07
they should start round 1 with 10k
2018-10-10 10:17
#353
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Namibia banned_so 
2700 on first eco if u planted the bomb on pistol round Mp5/mp7 + helmet + flash x5 against famases or smgs Easy force buys for TTs
2018-10-10 10:21
#350
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Lithuania ElValen 
So if team wins force round (after lose pistols), the other team will have 1400$, is it fair? Better make 1900$ for all first lost rounds.
2018-10-10 10:16
#363
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Taiwan SCVready 
It's the latter. No more 1400$ income after first lost rounds.
2018-10-10 10:38
it is for all first loss rounds ofc. Good change
2018-10-10 10:46
#384
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Lithuania ElValen 
'This means that the team losing the pistol round will receive $1900 instead of $1400'. It means only after first (pistol) lose round team receive 1900$. Maybe I don't understand the text well :D
2018-10-10 11:28
actually with their wording you are probably right, and that would be rather stupid as you point out.
2018-10-10 11:34
its only after 1st and 16th round
2018-10-10 17:14
Nice
2018-10-10 10:20
#369
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Portugal xxxRUI75xxx 
That Subzero map is an FPS hog though ...
2018-10-10 10:55
itll get better. nuke was also a major let down for me once they released it. i had 75fps outside and 250fps on ramp LUL. now its like 150-200 vs 250 on ramp.
2018-10-10 11:20
Nice!!
2018-10-10 10:57
[MAPS] – Austria is now available in Competitive Matchmaking. best update ever
2018-10-10 11:04
Did they actually listen about economy :o wowo <3 volvo
2018-10-10 11:15
#380
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Netherlands isbleeding 
Biome and Subzero, they remind me of de_prodigy and as_tundra... good old days >.<
2018-10-10 11:21
nice. only have to save 250 $ to go mp5+kevlar 2nd round after lose :D i like it.
2018-10-10 11:33
just kill 1 player and u get 2350 = ump + kevlar
2018-10-10 13:57
mp5 > ump in my world
2018-10-10 14:02
UMP is 35 dmg just need to learn its recoil pattern.
2018-10-10 15:16
#391
s1 | 
Ukraine mple 
AUG getting nerfed in 3 days, calling it now.
2018-10-10 11:37
#403
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Finland James Nelson 
It needs nerf tho. Its more dmg than m4. M4 98 dmg in 4. Aug >100 dmg in 4. Why would anyone buy m4
2018-10-10 11:50
but its recoil is ridiculous. m4 > better recoil better fire rate
2018-10-10 13:56
#440
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Finland James Nelson 
I don't enjoy m4 recoil either. Aug is similar to ak im gonna go with aug for now on
2018-10-10 13:58
#397
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Czech Republic fnx_2_majors 
That's what I wanted!!! I was gonna make an thread about it, thank you Mr. Valve
2018-10-10 11:45
#517
s1 | 
Ukraine mple 
yes mr prodka
2018-10-10 19:26
#402
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Finland James Nelson 
Expected
2018-10-10 11:49
what the fuck are they thinking. the amout of force buy wins is already ridiculously high , and valve just made it worse
2018-10-10 11:55
That is alright though. No easy and free rounds is preferable.
2018-10-10 12:18
what a dumb statement from someone who clearly doesnt understand the game and wants every round to be action packed. i bet u are one of those people who say that astralis is boring
2018-10-10 18:33
That statement shows that you are the one who clearly doesn't understand the game, specifically which dynamics work and which need to be tweaked a bit. This update is progress. I bet you are the one of those people who are convinced that they always know better - regardless how mistaken they actually are. Watching Astralis play is awesome, their style and game-play is in no way boring, in my opinion.
2018-10-10 18:48
pistol round has basically lost its importance in the game with this update. previously , winning a pistol round on the less favored side mean that u are primed to win at least 5 rounds in the half , but now losing pistol would put , for example , cts on nuke with a good buy in second round and with how ct sided that map is , u would favor them to win despite losing the pistol and since majority of the maps in the game are ct sided , we will see people win way less t side rounds. before , t side had an advantage with economy and now thats gone. thats just one of the many issues with this update
2018-10-12 19:26
teams liek FaZe won't stand a chance now. they loose all forcebuys i swear
2018-10-10 13:55
#458
elemeNt | 
United States jv$ 
lose*
2018-10-10 15:16
cz is absolutely destroyed, how I hate this valve
2018-10-10 12:17
whatever valve do, S1mple still 0 major
2018-10-10 12:17
wtf is austria
2018-10-10 13:16
Austria is fantastic destination for a skiing holiday
2018-10-10 19:50
biome is so fun to play, subzero is zero, boring af
2018-10-10 13:17
lol. difference that you can now buy UMP + full armor if you kill at least 1 player. 800 - half armor = 150. 150 + 1900 (round loss) + 300 (1 kill) = 2350 lul... CT side more OP than ever now.
2018-10-10 13:55
the game was somewhat balanced before with t's having the economy advantage and ct's having a map advantage...but now its officially fucked. we are going to see some clusterfuck cs in the upcoming months before valve finally reverts back to the old system. all the kids saying "omg best update" are going to be the ones talking shit about this update the most
2018-10-10 18:43
Is this the update which saved CS:GO?
2018-10-10 14:03
OPERATION PLEASE
2018-10-10 14:36
#460
elemeNt | 
United States jv$ 
+1
2018-10-10 15:17
+1
2018-10-10 18:50
#465
shox | 
Germany klashie 
add dust 1 back
2018-10-10 15:29
gonna be an interesting change in meta
2018-10-10 16:33
#472
ppk | 
Brazil 4vengerr 
TUSCAN
2018-10-10 16:35
#601
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Israel VeRKK 
Sweet, love using the aug/sg and used to love the tec9 aw well, still use it on pistol rounds depending on the map.
2018-10-10 20:09
tec9 is still shit because players compare it to the old OP version.
2018-10-10 20:14
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