forsaken issued five-year ban by ESIC

After being caught cheating on LAN, former OpTic India player Nikhil "⁠forsaken⁠" Kumawat has been banned from participating in ESIC events for five years, the organisation has announced.

The 23-year-old was caught red-handed at the eXTREMESLAND Asia Finals, where a cheat program was discovered by the tournament admins, which ultimately led to his team OpTic India being disqualified and later disbanded completely by OpTic.

According to the Esports Integrity Coalition (ESIC), the discovery prompted to organisation to ask the tournament organiser ESL India to investigate whether forsaken had also cheated at the organiser's India Premiership Fall Finale in September.

ESL has proof that forsaken cheated during OpTic India's run at the ESL Premiership Fall Final

The same cheat used at eXTREMESLAND was quickly found on the hard drive used by forsaken at the ESL event, which has now prompted ESIC, of which ESL India is a member, to ban forsaken from "all esports related activity for or with any ESIC member organisation" for five years.

ESIC says that it attempted to contact forsaken to 'offer him a reasonable time to consider the evidence' and plead either guilty or not guilty, but goes on to say that the 23-year-old has not responded.

forsaken had previously been sanctioned by ESIC, as it was discovered in 2017 that he was the owner of a VAC-banned account that he alleges was sold on to someone else, and that he was not himself the person cheating on the account.

As per ESIC rules, a second offence constitutes a lifetime ban, but the organisation writes in its announcement of the 5-year ban that a permanent ban 'was not proportionate as his first offence in 2017 was only very indirectly related to this offence and that a lifetime ban would have been disproportionate.' It went on to write the following:

We are conscious that many in the CS:GO community will disagree with this and we understand their feelings, but do not agree and feel that sanctions in esports ought to reflect what is accepted practice in traditional sports as our industry professionalises.

India Nikhil 'forsaken' Kumawat
Nikhil 'forsaken' Kumawat
Age:
25
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
1.31
Maps played:
27
KPR:
0.89
DPR:
0.62
GG Edit: I'm first wtf
2018-10-24 18:47
11 replies
#6
 | 
United Kingdom iMarbot
bye bye mr dirty cheater :>
2018-10-24 18:51
5 replies
5 years is gg
2018-10-24 18:46
1 reply
#115
 | 
Australia iPinK_Guy
expected
2018-10-24 19:04
hahah he is cheater and skin dirty i love UK people "MAIT"
2018-10-24 23:27
2 replies
Name doesn't check out.
2018-10-25 10:58
1 reply
Dont talk to me pleb
2018-10-25 11:20
NANI THE FAKC?:?
2018-10-24 18:48
Nice
2018-10-24 18:56
#226
 | 
Poland Unluko
LOL
2018-10-24 19:47
5 years still not enough for him
2018-10-25 09:27
dude he isn't even cheating... everyone wishes they had his gaming chair
2018-10-25 09:51
#2
 | 
Italy Fil0Nerd
OMEGALUL
2018-10-24 18:45
#3
 | 
Poland Jancz1
1?
2018-10-24 18:45
3 replies
GAMING-JAIL when ? easy 6 months for forsaken
2018-10-24 18:56
2 replies
#278
 | 
United States RecoS
korea has gaming-jail
2018-10-24 22:03
1 reply
Yeah just ask Life about it
2018-10-25 01:38
LUL
2018-10-24 18:45
rip
2018-10-24 18:45
#7
 | 
Canada wun_teps
GG
2018-10-24 18:45
He will be back to get revenge !!
2018-10-24 18:45
15 replies
5 years and the everlasting brand as cheater seem sufficient. No team of any consequence will ever again put him on their roster.
2018-10-24 19:27
12 replies
They will, aslong as they know hes not cheating
2018-10-24 19:34
5 replies
In 5 years he wont be good enough anymore, arguably he wasn't even good enough now, hence the necessity for cheating
2018-10-24 19:36
4 replies
He has 5 years to play and hope someone will take him. If he puts in the effort to become a decent player im sure he will get somewhere
2018-10-24 19:40
3 replies
Not gonna happen. region there is not developed enough to give him any ground to improve on, the only brand that tried it with optic will probably never set foot there again because he ruined it and with that ruined it for the whole indian scene. Optic was indias only chance to get into cs. Hes about as fucked as it gets, by the time he recovered theres a new cs out and hes in his 30s, and indian cs will still be trash. By the way he phrased his apology it doesnt like he will even continue trying.
2018-10-24 19:48
1 reply
+1
2018-10-24 20:02
he will never get anywhere in csgo again. that ship has sailed. he'll be 28 by the time he's no longer banned. he'll most likely need a different job now to generate an income. he wont have the same favourable conditions to practice under that other professionals have, no org, no decent team hungry for winning, no respect from his peers. he's done af
2018-10-24 19:50
#230
 | 
France Minaax_
Some guys said the same for other players like swag or kqly...
2018-10-24 19:53
4 replies
kyly is still inactive or isnt he?
2018-10-24 20:13
1 reply
Active but vac banned.
2018-10-24 20:25
their banns didn't last 5 years, but they should have
2018-10-24 20:25
swag not banned for cheat but for matchfixing
2018-10-24 21:32
He can still play majors as he's not banned xD
2018-10-24 22:02
He's already 23 years old. Even if he tries to come back, he's gonna be 28 at the time. From this point to get his career solidified would take more several years ahead, which makes him unable to build anything in CS:GO.
2018-10-24 19:35
in 5 years csgo will be dead af boi
2018-10-25 01:16
wow
2018-10-24 18:45
who
2018-10-24 18:45
#11
 | 
India |sKy|
Yaaay!
2018-10-24 18:45
lul
2018-10-24 18:45
#13
 | 
Portugal Joefilas
Rofl
2018-10-24 18:45
HAAAAA
2018-10-24 18:45
#15
 | 
Ireland Noct9rn
oof
2018-10-24 18:45
lol
2018-10-24 18:45
Expected, but he should've been given a lifetime ban
2018-10-24 18:45
8 replies
#78
 | 
North America natEdog
Yeah, he can get 5 years for cheetz but don't throw a match. That's a lifetime ...
2018-10-24 18:51
1 reply
+1
2018-10-25 08:57
no so fucking stupid banning someone forever even 100 year ban would sound more appropriate
2018-10-24 19:18
5 replies
So what your saying is that cheaters should be given another chance?
2018-10-24 19:35
4 replies
depends, he earned nothing by cheating, unlike flusha
2018-10-24 19:37
1 reply
#309
 | 
Brunei GucciLeIe
+1
2018-10-25 00:27
yes they should, however a 5 year ban in CS is almost a lifetime ban, he can't compete on any relevant level to improve for 5 years and by the time he would be at any appropriate level he would be in the age were most people retire. In this case its more serious because he got caught cheating on stage at an actual lan, so the ban deserves to be harsh, maybe even 10 years, but you shouldn't issue lifetime bans for someone who might get banned when they are 12 cheating in MM and then still uphold that by the time they are in their 20's, it's unreasonable as fuck. People cheating in actual sports rarely get lifetime bans on first offence unless its an extreme case.
2018-10-25 00:28
1 reply
Cheating in cs makes eveeything unbalanced, cheaters should go through a 1 or 2 year suspension and then they cant play at valve events for a year after that
2018-10-25 00:36
#18
 | 
Malaysia byaIi
F
2018-10-24 18:45
he's forsaken now
2018-10-24 18:49
Press F to pay respects
2018-10-24 18:45
2 replies
No respects to Indian scams.
2018-10-24 19:42
1 reply
Appreciate your bait.
2018-10-24 20:26
Why not lifetme ? Wtf
2018-10-24 18:46
2 replies
#39
 | 
Armenia cGev
Esports dead in 5 years xd VRsports dominates in 4 years
2018-10-24 18:46
1 reply
+1
2018-10-24 20:05
#22
 | 
Armenia cGev
Not enough
2018-10-24 18:46
no lifetime wtf?
2018-10-24 18:46
Who cares he didnt achive anything
2018-10-24 18:46
#28
 | 
United Kingdom SickaBoy
LOOOL
2018-10-24 18:46
Cya in lan
2018-10-24 18:46
#30
valde | 
Finland Juvi
gg
2018-10-24 18:46
#31
 | 
Finland EdiEz
Deserved
2018-10-24 18:46
#32
 | 
Poland iveforever
XDDDDD not life time wtf
2018-10-24 18:46
best player all time on word.exe
2018-10-24 18:46
Undeserved
2018-10-24 18:46
wtf 2 years would be enough free forsaken, give him a 2nd chance
2018-10-24 18:47
3 replies
level 6 faceit account hmmmmmmm
2018-10-24 18:47
2 replies
not everyone in this world plays faceit there is sostronk .. and others
2018-10-24 22:16
#307
 | 
United Kingdom oyyrofl
11 games
2018-10-25 00:05
XD
2018-10-24 18:46
NOT FAIR. Simple only 1 year ban
2018-10-24 18:46
1 reply
#259
 | 
Korea XigNw0w
2*
2018-10-24 21:07
LUL
2018-10-24 18:46
should've been a lifetime ban
2018-10-24 18:46
5 year ban lol nothing else?
2018-10-24 18:46
2 replies
What? Should he be lynched or something, would that satisfy you?
2018-10-24 19:10
1 reply
I want to make him steak, and then watch dogs eat him
2018-10-24 19:36
EXPECTED
2018-10-24 18:46
#44
 | 
United States Toothyca
HAHAHA CYA 5 YEARS
2018-10-24 18:46
oof
2018-10-24 18:46
Doesnt really matter
2018-10-24 18:47
#47
 | 
Sweden elan108
5 years for cheating on lan for prizemoney. Lifetime for owning a Vac-banned account. lul
2018-10-24 18:47
1 reply
Lifetime for throwing online for skins, wtf???? #FreeIBPin2020
2018-10-25 01:48
Lol
2018-10-24 18:47
Why only 5? I thought forever😞
2018-10-24 18:47
3 replies
Game will be dead by then. Also hes indian so hel die of poverty.
2018-10-24 19:11
2 replies
Funny haha
2018-10-24 19:36
1 reply
Funny haha
2018-10-24 19:37
Rip forsaken (2018-2018)
2018-10-24 18:47
#52
 | 
Sweden @fimpen
OMFG thats like getting away with murder
2018-10-24 18:47
1 reply
More like being a serial killer and getting off with a slap on the wrist
2018-10-24 19:37
#53
rain | 
United Kingdom EKersh
wtf he was just trying to do his homework
2018-10-24 18:47
#54
 | 
Czech Republic Kelvi
Lmao xddd
2018-10-24 18:47
word.exe
2018-10-24 18:47
Rip top 1 player of 2018
2018-10-24 18:48
#57
NEO | 
Poland sedi
good, 5 years in esports its like forever
2018-10-24 18:48
2 replies
#73
 | 
Sweden @fimpen
haha so what perm ban cheaters whats the deal why should they even get to play again?
2018-10-24 18:50
1 reply
Its not a valve ban soooo
2018-10-24 19:37
#58
 | 
United Kingdom bvipster
what the fuck, iBUYPOWER got a permanent ban for purposefully losing and this guy only gets 5 years
2018-10-24 18:48
12 replies
5 years and the everlasting brand as 'cheater' seem sufficient. No team of any consequence will ever again put him on their roster. What iBUYPOWER did is worse than using cheats to win, what they did undermines the sport in it's entirety.
2018-10-24 19:34
4 replies
#214
 | 
United Kingdom bvipster
Yes but cheater is also branded onto the iBUYPOWER players, and they didn't take money from any other teams. Also I believe that hacking undermines it much more than purposefully losing
2018-10-24 19:37
1 reply
In any case, they're all cheaters and they all undermine the integrity of the game. If you do that, you should not be playing in any professional capacity.
2018-10-24 19:59
Cheating is wayy worst than match fixing, cheating will change the out come of many games and how the player is percieved, losing one match doesnt change much at all
2018-10-24 19:39
1 reply
+1
2018-10-25 06:33
ex-IBP got a lifetime ban from valve, which ESL originally mirrored. but when they founded ESIC that ESL ban was reduced to 2 years, which is why ex-IBP can play in EPL/MDL + IEM/ESL One again. so this punishment is more severe than ex-IBP.
2018-10-24 23:37
6 replies
#368
 | 
United Kingdom bvipster
no because the ex-IBP players could have had a lifelong career in cs however, no big orgs would want to pick up players who cant play in majors
2018-10-28 00:21
5 replies
i agree that the consequences for the ex-ibp may have been more severe because they were at the top level, but the punishment itsself was less than what forsaken has recieved. 5 years > 2 years.
2018-10-31 00:58
4 replies
#370
 | 
United Kingdom bvipster
Yes well the Valve ban is permanent and that means they will not be able to be as successful as they could be as a professional player
2018-10-31 12:45
3 replies
that much is obvious, what's your point? you're comparing a valve ban with an esic ban - apples and oranges. valve deliberately chose a disproportionate punishment, the maximum sentence. they needed to make an example out of the ex-ibp guys so the rest of the scene got the message that matchfixing threatens everything. i hope you understand that. also, swag and steel are already playing again in proleague and iem, at least they still have a (lesser) career. something forsaken won't have.
2018-10-31 17:20
2 replies
#372
 | 
United Kingdom bvipster
yes but you are arguing that the Forsaken ban is worse which may be true apart from the repercussions are far worse for ex-IBP
2018-10-31 18:46
1 reply
th...that's exactly what i wrote in #369 :D glad we understand each other :)
2018-11-05 22:17
Expected
2018-10-24 18:48
#61
 | 
Turkey layzer
exel.exe inc 5 years after
2018-10-24 18:48
free FORSAKEN
2018-10-24 18:48
2 replies
reported
2018-10-24 19:46
1 reply
SweetAppleStrudel
2018-10-25 16:55
lulmaooooooooo
2018-10-24 18:48
Looking forward to word 2023
2018-10-24 18:48
ast. f0rsaken 2023 inc
2018-10-24 18:48
Should be for life
2018-10-24 18:49
#68
 | 
Italy PiccanteCA
izi bye forsaken
2018-10-24 18:49
#69
 | 
Palestine MrZoldiK
and IBuyPower got a Permanent ban for trolling, nice ESports logic
2018-10-24 18:49
22 replies
#77
 | 
Germany xkillua
+1000 mohamed
2018-10-24 18:51
19 replies
#92
 | 
Palestine MrZoldiK
how u know my name! XD
2018-10-24 18:54
18 replies
#100
 | 
Asia rho_csgo
lmaooo
2018-10-24 18:56
1 reply
#102
 | 
Palestine MrZoldiK
dafak XD
2018-10-24 18:57
your name is not common at all
2018-10-24 19:00
1 reply
#120
 | 
Palestine MrZoldiK
I was just wondering ! XD
2018-10-24 19:07
#180
 | 
Germany xkillua
i know everything dude
2018-10-24 19:22
13 replies
#181
 | 
Palestine MrZoldiK
Gg rip my life XD
2018-10-24 19:23
12 replies
me mohamed too xD
2018-10-24 19:29
11 replies
#193
 | 
Palestine MrZoldiK
hi bro XD
2018-10-24 19:30
10 replies
xD inshallah
2018-10-24 19:30
9 replies
#197
 | 
Palestine MrZoldiK
<3 XD
2018-10-24 19:30
8 replies
why hr fan ? XD
2018-10-24 19:31
7 replies
#199
 | 
Palestine MrZoldiK
ISSAA <3 XD
2018-10-24 19:31
6 replies
#206
 | 
Germany xkillua
hamduleh XD
2018-10-24 19:35
5 replies
#207
 | 
Palestine MrZoldiK
hamduleh Xd
2018-10-24 19:36
4 replies
#215
 | 
Germany xkillua
hamdzabi XD
2018-10-24 19:37
3 replies
#217
 | 
Palestine MrZoldiK
you know everything XD got it XD french bro. <3
2018-10-24 19:38
2 replies
#222
 | 
Germany xkillua
one, two, three viva l'algerie
2018-10-24 19:41
1 reply
#224
 | 
Palestine MrZoldiK
That's a lot XD
2018-10-24 19:44
true af +1000
2018-10-24 19:07
bullshit, ex-ibp got lifetime from valve, esic only banned them for 2 years. that's why they can play in esl tournaments again since last year. calm your tits, bro.
2018-10-24 23:42
5 years in csgo = lifetime banned. Forsaken is now forgotten
2018-10-24 18:49
1 reply
Forsaken is forsaken
2018-10-24 23:20
#71
felps | 
Brazil pluga
forsaken did nothing wrong
2018-10-24 18:49
#74
 | 
United Kingdom craZy_y0
Valve should ban him from majors now.
2018-10-24 18:50
2 replies
#95
 | 
Hungary Shaperz
unnecessary since he will never even get remotely close to a minor qualifier, let alone a major
2018-10-24 18:55
1 reply
#110
 | 
India |sKy|
+1
2018-10-24 19:02
#75
 | 
Germany xkillua
what is ESIC
2018-10-24 18:50
#freebrax
2018-10-24 18:51
#80
 | 
Switzerland TyRRRR
Nigga how is he banned only 5 years when the match-fixers got "undefinite" time ban ? The fuck is this shit Valve, banning DOTA players 6 month and CS players for a lifetime ? Fuck you. Cheating = Banned for ever in the game Matchfixing = Banned dependent on the ammount gained
2018-10-24 18:52
9 replies
#155
 | 
United Kingdom craZy_y0
Then again, there's Malaysian and Peruvian Dota 2 players who are "indefinitely" banned for match fixing from like 2014 and 2016 respectively.
2018-10-24 19:11
4 replies
#161
 | 
Switzerland TyRRRR
Yeah but who gives a shit when other got 6 or 8 month bans, in CS it's EVERY guy who did it, that got the lifetime ban.
2018-10-24 19:12
3 replies
#165
 | 
United Kingdom craZy_y0
Can't really figure out why they got those indefinite bans if others got 6-8 month bans then. Not really a Dota 2 follower but I know of the Malaysian guys and the Peruvian guys who got banned.
2018-10-24 19:14
2 replies
#170
 | 
Switzerland TyRRRR
Valve is fucked up, no one can figure it out if they can't themsleves.
2018-10-24 19:17
1 reply
This is not a valve ban
2018-10-24 20:40
you... you know that this is an esl ban, not a valve ban, right? the matchfixers you speak of got a 2 year esl ban, they can play again since last year.
2018-10-24 23:45
3 replies
#302
 | 
Switzerland TyRRRR
I know but the matchfixers are valve abnned meanwhile they didn't say anything about this guy or others like ad3m..
2018-10-24 23:49
2 replies
valve will prob. never say anything about forsaken because it's not an issue anymore. if he ever registers for a minor qualifier, only then they'll act.
2018-10-24 23:54
1 reply
#304
 | 
Switzerland TyRRRR
Nah they should adress it anyway, but they won't cuz it's a shit company.
2018-10-24 23:55
#freesaken #word
2018-10-24 18:52
5 year in cs is like life time in irl
2018-10-24 18:52
#83
 | 
Hungary raffai
lul rip
2018-10-24 18:52
I bet his efforts to come back stronger will excelelerate from now on.
2018-10-24 18:52
5 years Ban For Destroying the whole Indian Scene fair enough kek
2018-10-24 18:52
Crying :(
2018-10-24 18:53
call me when they ban these guys playing for millions of dollars
2018-10-24 18:53
#89
 | 
India MihirX27
5-Year is Stupid. Lifetime ban would've been More than enough.
2018-10-24 18:53
This is joke. Cheating 5 years. Throw one game life time ban lil
2018-10-24 18:54
3 replies
no, put him in JAIL for 6 months
2018-10-24 18:55
#201
 | 
Myanmar xdcc
matchfixers are already unbanned by ESL and steel is competing in ESL Pro League. if you get banned by Valve (VAC) you are not getting unbanned ever. forsaken is still able to play in majors since this ban has nothing to do with valve but with ESL. bad anti cheat? sure. different treatment? no. also CSGO has been out for little over 6 years. 5 years is effectively an end to his "career" in ESL events.
2018-10-24 19:32
1 reply
#274
 | 
Cyprus Swishh_
+1 though banned by valve doesn't mean you've been vac banned as you said. example, iBP, got banned by valve but not vac banned.
2018-10-24 21:28
#91
 | 
Sweden godname
VAC Is so Bad
2018-10-24 18:54
#96
 | 
Germany ConAction
only 5 years?
2018-10-24 18:56
5 years ban is not so bad, he won't be able to go back to cs anyways, his nation doesn't even trust him anymore lol rip career
2018-10-24 18:56
gg
2018-10-24 18:56
nt forsaken
2018-10-24 18:58
so someone get 5 year ban and i have ban for nothing and its pernament are u kidding me?
2018-10-24 18:58
2 replies
apparently cheating in MM is worse than cheating on LAN tournaments lmao
2018-10-24 19:03
1 reply
+1
2018-10-24 19:41
It's funny how this "ESIC" and ESL make a big deal out of it but in reality he just deleted his social media accounts and went on with real life. That's it.
2018-10-24 18:58
3 replies
+1 but his real life is shitting on the streets cause he is indian
2018-10-24 19:02
1 reply
#242
 | 
Nigeria Asbhdhsbs
LOLMAO
2018-10-24 20:09
#191
 | 
Myanmar xdcc
well lets be honest they dont really care about forsaken but how his situation is handled sets a precedent. also its not every day someone cheats on LAN so it reflects really poorly on ESL that he got this far in the first place.
2018-10-24 19:29
#107
 | 
India |sKy|
Rest in pieces...
2018-10-24 19:00
#108
 | 
Europe Cr3eP_70
Good to know! Who's next?
2018-10-24 19:00
should have gotten indefinite ban like the rats from ibuypower, except from all tournaments, 3rd-party platforms and VAC secured servers
2018-10-24 19:02
Interesting after when in his apology forsaken said "he did it again", admitting straight up he indeed had cheated before (with the sold account). Did ESIC not take that into consideration? As per their own rules it _of course_ should be no less than a lifetime ban.
2018-10-24 19:02
#116
 | 
Estonia E$t0
omegalul.
2018-10-24 19:04
Again funny that matchfixers get lifetime bans, but cheaters get 3-5 years.
2018-10-24 19:06
3 replies
#175
 | 
Myanmar xdcc
untrue. matchfixers are already unbanned by ESL and steel is competing in ESL Pro League. if you get banned by Valve (VAC) you are not getting unbanned ever. forsaken is still able to play in majors since this ban has nothing to do with valve but with ESL. bad anti cheat? sure. different treatment? no.
2018-10-24 19:21
#265
 | 
Cyprus Swishh_
lol ur so clueless
2018-10-24 21:21
1 reply
? Reply must have actual content. ESL and Dreamhack did deliver matchfixers lifetime bans and those bans were lifted once those organizations realized it is retarded to have lifetime bans on something like that.
2018-10-25 16:47
Makes you wonder how many low-lifes use this on matchmaking, man I must be good I think :)
2018-10-24 19:06
#121
 | 
Latvia Faaakk
The community has given him a lifetime ban
2018-10-24 19:07
#122
 | 
Netherlands @Deji
Now he can keep playing lvl 10 faceit
2018-10-24 19:08
4 replies
I don't think he can, he is level 7 on faceit with .98 KDR LOL, and I think faceit anticheat wouldn't allow his amateur cheats
2018-10-24 19:16
3 replies
#174
 | 
Myanmar xdcc
fun fact: forsaken is still able to play in majors. i'd love to see him qualify too so valve would get their shit together
2018-10-24 19:19
2 replies
nah Indian teams can't get even get to the minors
2018-10-24 19:24
1 reply
#183
 | 
Myanmar xdcc
I doubt any legit players will want to play with him anyway. so just get a team of word.exe, powerpoint.exe, excel.exe, outlook.exe and onenote.exe. LAN starts in minor only.
2018-10-24 19:25
5 years okay, ¿What about swag?
2018-10-24 19:09
5 replies
#168
 | 
Myanmar xdcc
This is for ESL events. swag is already unbanned from ESL events and steel is competing in ESL Pro League. Nothing to do with Valve.
2018-10-24 19:16
4 replies
What about major? Too bad this kid got influenced by dazed & steel and threw away his chance to show his talent at top tier.
2018-10-24 20:32
1 reply
#252
 | 
Myanmar xdcc
matchfixers are already unbanned by ESL and steel is competing in ESL Pro League. this ban is by ESL, too. also don't forget that there were throwers even in ESEA MDL league in NA and they are not banned by valve since they did not investigate it. if you get banned by Valve (VAC) you are not getting unbanned ever. forsaken is still able to play in majors since this ban has nothing to do with valve but with ESL. valve never unbans actual cheaters or hands out temp bans whether it is cheating or throwing. bad anti cheat? sure. different treatment? no. if ESL were to give information about this cheat to valve then they could ban forsaken. but that doesn't matter since forsaken has VAC ban already so Valve would probably check whether he owned the account at the time or not
2018-10-24 20:41
The bans on the iBP players were lifetime bans by ESL,Dreamhack,and Valve, but ESL and Dreamhack took those punishments away after a few years after realizing that a one time offense doesn't deserve a lifetime ban. Valve on the other hand are just fucking retarded and only look at csgo twice a year so why would they care
2018-10-25 16:50
1 reply
#356
 | 
Myanmar xdcc
They do not unban cheaters or throwers in CSGO and it's their choice. Throwers were lucky they faced no repercussions outside of CS in the first place and they should be happy they can play at all. Unbanning them is the retarded move for Valve. They gain nothing by doing that and small increase in viewership is insignificant to them. The only thing they would get is potential backlash (making headlines, people spamming iBP when they play etc.) that would damage their reputation.
2018-10-25 18:26
#125
 | 
Brazil ^7|1
Forsaken top 1 2024
2018-10-24 19:09
#127
 | 
Sweden flippig
cya 5 years
2018-10-24 19:09
should've been 5 years in prison and lifetime ban
2018-10-24 19:10
3 replies
#159
 | 
Sweden flippig
lol
2018-10-24 19:11
lmao true
2018-10-24 19:14
#172
 | 
Myanmar xdcc
+1
2018-10-24 19:17
free forkasen
2018-10-24 19:13
Forsaken, but not forgotten ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Wanna buy the best apples in HLTV? call me NOW: 011-1337-APPLE and get an 80% discount on your first 5 kilos!
2018-10-24 19:13
hahaha nice work reefers
2018-10-24 19:14
wtf this is so unfair, esic is so racist. They let flusha cheat and ban forsaken. #freeforsaken he was framed.
2018-10-24 19:15
#173
 | 
Brazil cadik
#freeforsaken reduce it to 1 year
2018-10-24 19:17
#176
 | 
United Kingdom Beardo
5 years, not enough. Should be permanently banned then castrated.
2018-10-24 19:20
In 5 years he will try with PowerPoint, I wish him good luck.
2018-10-24 19:20
#freeforsaken reduce it to 5 months
2018-10-24 19:20
iBUYPOWER issued a permanent ban XD
2018-10-24 19:23
my boy forsaken will go pro in PUBG mobile now
2018-10-24 19:25
1 reply
lul
2018-10-24 23:30
The most important thing is which events are under ESIC isn't mentioned, okay?
2018-10-24 19:25
why is it only ban on tournaments? He tried to steal money in the way, i think there should be some jail time to prevent ppl from cheating
2018-10-24 19:28
#194
 | 
Pakistan Pavlos
it feals bad when your favorite player gets banned
2018-10-24 19:30
#196
 | 
United States ItsImpact
Why they acting like this is a court case “We reached out to forsaken to see if he would plead guilty or not guilty” It’s fucking counter strike
2018-10-24 19:30
In five years CS GO will be no longer competitive =D
2018-10-24 19:31
Cheating = 5 year ban Match Fixing one game = Permanent ban Excuse me what the fuck?
2018-10-24 19:41
10 replies
Matchfixing hurts pro scene as seriously as cheating do.
2018-10-24 20:51
9 replies
explain how LOL
2018-10-24 21:22
3 replies
#334
 | 
China LEaDOS
I think his point is that they all let the undeserving team win.
2018-10-25 06:07
2 replies
You don't "let" "undeserving" team win with cheats. You are the undeserving one driving others insane and stealing opportunities from legit players. And you compare that with gambling? Matchfixing is a joke compared to cheating.
2018-10-27 12:01
1 reply
#365
 | 
China LEaDOS
I understand both of you. I just explained his view for you. Think about it. A scene that everyone focus on how to lose a game properly. There is no "legit player". The only way to get the fking sponsorship is follow the rules. And the bonus they awarded is nothing comparing to the profit they got. That's the Chinese pro scene used to be.
2018-10-27 13:26
explain how LOL
2018-10-24 21:27
4 replies
Just observe how Chinese pro scene is ruined by matchfixing and u will agree with me.
2018-10-25 08:17
3 replies
Don't be ridiculous, you can have as much trolls as you want and still there will be a legit professional team on top. How nuts you must be to compare that with cheating?
2018-10-27 12:04
2 replies
Matchfixing will totally destroy players' motivation. Just fix some matches and we will get considerable money, why bother training hard and challange those who are even more talenty? I cant comment on other regions, but in a region where matchfixing is somehow an open secret, u can clearly see how players degrade themselves. Yes I am talking about China CS, it is broadly believed that EVERY TEAM except Tyloo (and maybe Flash Gaming?) involved in some matchfixing (or similar things e.g. play on others' account in online matches like what Dosia did), more or less. As a result, you can see EVERY TEAM in China except Tyloo (and maybe Flash Gaming) are just TRASH. They are happy about their dirty money and the atmosphere in CN pro CS is just scary for any fresh blood and investors. (As a pro, if you rejected to fix a match, you may be considered crazy by other pros, that's the current situation in China) This is what could happen if you allow the hidden matchfixing power infiltrate in your region. They are greedy, they wont stop, few people can refuse easy money and the pro scene in ur region will be nothing but an urinal full of dirty stuffs. Therefore, the zero-tolerance policy to matchfixing is reasonable for me. Anti-matchfixing is not only fighting against a few greedy players, it is the fight between the practitioner and illegal mafia, so the punches need to be harder.
2018-10-27 13:48
Another supporting argument is, think about traditional sports, usually the organizations will punish those matchfixers at least as severely as those illegal drug takers.
2018-10-27 14:31
I hope that Optic also included in the contract a clause on the return of all money in the case of cheating. and they leave that b**ch without penny.
2018-10-24 19:49
2 replies
all contracts should have this imo, if you cheat you have to pay back all tournament winnings, salary and an extra fee for damage to the org. probably not legal to put in a contract though... but anything to stop people to cheat until caught and still cash out, like KQLY and other rats
2018-10-24 19:53
1 reply
+ infinity dude. Nothing to add.
2018-10-24 20:00
What a joke, valve and ESL should ban him permanently
2018-10-24 19:53
#233
 | 
North America xAriana
I mean, it's not like he will ever be picked up again
2018-10-24 19:57
#FreeKQLY #FreeSwag #Fuckoffvalve
2018-10-24 20:01
#240
 | 
China longkas
Only 5 years, is this a joke?
2018-10-24 20:08
1 reply
#272
 | 
Cyprus Swishh_
5 years is a lot for someone who aspires to be a professional player. plus no one will pick him up once he's unbanned.
2018-10-24 21:27
#241
 | 
Poland MiSzCzU
expected, but valve don't care...
2018-10-24 20:08
rip GOAT of csgo
2018-10-24 20:13
A lot of pros criticise him now but they were cheating aswell in 2014 lmao.pretty sure flusha and a lot of players cheated before kqly.luckily didnt get caught,only few of them.(sf,kqly,smn)
2018-10-24 20:18
1 reply
true
2018-10-24 21:21
Well deserved
2018-10-24 20:25
deserved
2018-10-24 20:25
#254
 | 
Finland muglobal
when vacban appears ?? never?
2018-10-24 20:47
1 reply
#270
 | 
Cyprus Swishh_
vac bans are not manual
2018-10-24 21:24
Forsaken, the legend from optic India
2018-10-24 20:55
should be +5 year jail time.
2018-10-24 20:59
Why is india a member of esic in the first place . Noob gamers who the hell allowed them.
2018-10-24 20:59
1 reply
#271
 | 
Cyprus Swishh_
u mean esl india? cuz india by itself isnt
2018-10-24 21:25
#260
 | 
Korea XigNw0w
Right decision.
2018-10-24 21:08
But IBP gets life ban hmmm
2018-10-24 21:14
2 replies
#269
 | 
Cyprus Swishh_
iBP got banned by Valve. forsaken didn't. dont confuse the two.
2018-10-24 21:24
1 reply
Very good point
2018-10-25 01:04
5 year ban for cheating. Lifetime ban for match fixing. Niceeeeeeeee
2018-10-24 21:15
2 replies
nt deepfriesamerican, ur matchfixer bots will never be unbanned
2018-10-24 23:30
1 reply
Oh no my grease filled arteries. Idc about them being unbanned, it's just funny how it's handled.
2018-10-25 01:11
ibp still banned lul
2018-10-24 21:16
Rip :D
2018-10-24 21:16
#268
 | 
Latvia ARS123
RIP XD
2018-10-24 21:22
Forsaken kqly sf Emilio nkl m0e(coach) New superteam?
2018-10-24 22:16
3 replies
It is missing ASPX.
2018-10-24 22:50
1 reply
#291
 | 
Portugal ACEru
+1
2018-10-24 23:18
#305
 | 
Kazakhstan horaaa
grux (on loan to chaos)
2018-10-24 23:55
Should never be allowed to play again. Making Esports look like a big joke.
2018-10-24 22:30
#283
 | 
Turkey brtmrl
Permanent ban needed.
2018-10-24 22:33
matchfix : life ban cheat on lan : 5 years :thinking:
2018-10-24 22:40
5 replies
Match fix ppl lost money but cheat on lan he didnt harm anyone
2018-10-25 01:14
4 replies
IBP didnt kept the money ?
2018-10-25 01:15
3 replies
Ppl bet on them thinking they would win but they lost on purpose so ibp fucked bettors
2018-10-25 01:17
2 replies
Oh yes you right
2018-10-25 01:24
Belgistan agrees with Swedishstan
2018-10-26 14:44
rip street pooper
2018-10-24 22:41
200 iq
2018-10-24 22:51
Meanwhile brax xd
2018-10-24 23:04
Cameron Bancroft only got 9 months, what is this???
2018-10-24 23:18
#FreeSwag
2018-10-24 23:23
It should be lifetime. Ffs for fixing matches some players got lifetime ban and for cheating cought on lan only 5 years. Not fair at all
2018-10-24 23:38
1 reply
#318
 | 
Cyprus Swishh_
Like I said in a previous comment iBP got banned by Valve, forsaken didn't. 2 different companies on 2 different occasions. Don't confuse the two.
2018-10-25 01:13
That guy was cheating for so long time and non of the anti cheat tools detected it. If the Admin didnt check his computer, he could keep cheating for long time, These Anti cheat tools are trash, when even an indian cdant get caught :D
2018-10-24 23:58
no
2018-10-25 00:19
#FreeForsaken
2018-10-25 00:33
One gone, now they need to get Niko, S1mple, Cold, Karrigan, Flusha and we are free from cheaters for a while
2018-10-25 00:50
Back to shitting on the streets OMEGALUL
2018-10-25 01:12
He can try building toilets for the next 5 yrs
2018-10-25 01:13
rip life lol
2018-10-25 01:57
I refuse to believe in this gentleman's dishonesty. If any unlawfulness occurred it was by indirect means, caused by people close to him and without his consent.
2018-10-25 02:11
#328
 | 
Turkey emre114
gg word.exe
2018-10-25 02:39
5 years is short make that 10
2018-10-25 03:17
RIP career
2018-10-25 03:33
word.exe ahahaha
2018-10-25 04:05
#332
 | 
El Salvador Sp1x
Five years will make him 28 if he decides to try to play again; decent. I agree with it; if he cheats again, it's lifetime. Btw IBP guys still banned for life from majors for match-fixing for $8k. Just saying.
2018-10-25 04:11
F for forsaken
2018-10-25 05:22
He will be back soon with new name and long beard
2018-10-25 06:29
only 5 years ?? i mean he made the worst thing that someone can do in an online competitive game and doesnt get perma banned forever...
2018-10-25 06:48
Ban this fucker forever. His career is over anyways but pls get him behind bars not only 5 years and ban matchfixers forever
2018-10-25 07:25
only 5 years? I though that he would get death penalty
2018-10-25 08:15
#342
 | 
Finland N1xuu
FORSAKEN :D
2018-10-25 09:02
#343
 | 
India skyl4rk
Enjoy the VACation bruh....
2018-10-25 09:10
Bye rajesh
2018-10-25 09:17
Hiscareergon
2018-10-25 09:50
RIP, shitter.
2018-10-25 11:03
#352
shox | 
Canada dB-
Threaten him to lifetime ban in exchange for information as to where he got the cheat / who developped it
2018-10-25 11:22
1 reply
#357
 | 
Myanmar xdcc
CSGO is out for slightly over 6 years... 5 years effectively is a life ban.
2018-10-25 18:31
He's indian
2018-10-26 08:36
Why is swag and co banned permanently? But this Indian shit has issued 5 year ban. Totally unfair.
2018-10-26 09:43
kkkkkkkk
2018-10-26 10:37
#362
 | 
Belarus d0er
animal
2018-10-27 10:44
I think someone is going on a VAC-ation around India
2018-11-05 22:19
Login or register to add your comment to the discussion.