HEN1, LUCAS1 ponder Luminosity exit - Report

13-1-2019 21:04

Henrique "⁠HEN1⁠" Teles and Lucas "⁠LUCAS1⁠" Teles are weighing up the possibility of leaving Luminosity, according to a report by Draft5.

The Brazilian media outlet claims that the Teles twins are entertaining the idea of leaving Luminosity to start a new project with two-time Major champion Lincoln "⁠fnx⁠" Lau, who has been out of action since August, when he was removed from the Não Tem Como roster, currently representing INTZ.

The report comes just a week before iBUYPOWER Masters, where Luminosity will reportedly field W7M member Fillipe "⁠pancc⁠" Martins as a stand-in as Ricardo "⁠boltz⁠" Prass is understood to be ruled out of the event due to visa issues.

The twins could be on their way out of Luminosity

In a Twitter post, HEN1 dismissed the story, stressing that he is "crazy to play CS 24/7". He also stressed that he and his brother will compete at iBUYPOWER Masters, though he made no mention of the team's need for a stand-in at the event.

HEN1 and LUCAS1 signed for Luminosity in the summer, helping the team to a top-eight finish at IEM Chicago and to second places at the DreamHack Open events in Valencia and in Atlanta.

wtf are they doing now? hen1+lucas+fnx+boltz nice team, i think they will be best brazilian team!!!

2019-01-13 22:36

34 replies

wat

2019-01-13 22:35

10 replies

wow another ntc thatll end up with same results residentsleeper

9 replies

2019-01-13 22:50

1 reply

Lol

2019-01-13 22:52

NTC didn't have boltz

2019-01-14 00:31

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g a m e c h a n g e r

2019-01-14 00:47

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Indeed he and steel were the game changers because they were actually serious players, while the twins, fnx and kng got to fuck up with immortals and 100 thieves in only a few months

2019-01-14 02:04

3 replies

2019-01-14 02:07

fnx + kng + twins + chelo

2019-01-14 19:33

chelo didn't do nothing yet

2019-01-14 07:27

KNGv coming😂

2019-01-14 11:32

twitter.com/HEN1/status/1084558164866027..

2019-01-13 22:38

now I'm relieved

2019-01-13 22:47

better now

2019-01-14 01:18

Really good Portuguese from Henrique, "eu e lucas nao vai sair".

2019-01-14 14:04

fuck the portuguese stupid language

2019-01-15 13:43

Nt fake flag

2019-01-13 22:45

Its Just another BR team like NTC, these guys are not doing a good thing.

2019-01-13 23:16

-1

2019-01-13 23:27

I just don't understand what people see in steelega, for me is most overrated player of brazilian cs go in international competitive, and this issues with the twins and FNX probally is his fault.

2019-01-14 00:19

Steel was the turning point for Immortals to become a real good team. He is not a star, but he can surely be a balance for a destabilized team.

2019-01-14 04:48

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Nope, kng was the turning point. Steelega performed very well at that time, tough.

2019-01-14 05:07

KNG BETTER THAN STEEL OMEGALOL

2019-01-14 09:55

very good team

2019-01-14 02:28

wtf

2019-01-14 04:56

hen1, lucas1, boltz (farting his ass off), kNgV-, fnx.

2019-01-14 11:35

+bit, then -bit, then GG, disband

2019-01-14 12:55

They need a real leader, someone like bad fallen who isn't scared of anyone

2019-01-14 13:21

The only real leader in Brazil, besides fallen, is FURIA arT.

2019-01-14 14:41

If they get kng it would be great

2019-01-14 14:42

UR CRAZY KKKKK

2019-01-16 18:27

+kng

2019-01-19 17:11

2nd!

lul

LOL

HLTV posting fake shit lmao...

2019-01-13 22:57

Don't even know what to say. It's like they're leaving any team they play in for some reasons.

2019-01-13 22:37

this is fake

2019-01-13 22:58

8 replies

english plz

2019-01-14 09:05

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"I'm renovated, excited to play CS 24/7" "Lucas and I won't leave LG, I don't know why you are all sending me messages, this is bs. Believe in what you read here, no gossips =) "

2019-01-14 09:34

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nt fakeflagger

2019-01-14 13:12

Ich bin deutsch...aber ich spreche Portugiesisch. arschloch!

2019-01-14 14:26

Ah ja! Lederhosen! Arschloch!

2019-01-15 18:27

lol you got involved fo nothing?

2019-01-15 19:25

-1 It is not this pos. In this is written they are not leaving LG. And we should not believe averything what we read. So dont lie that you can speak portuguese.

2019-01-15 20:50

what are you talking about? I am fluent in portuguese and the translation is 100% correct. – To renovado, doido pra jogar aquele CS 24/7 "I'm renovated, excited to play CS 24/7" – Eu e lucas não vai sair da LG, eu nem sei o porque vocês tão me mandando msg, mas é tudo conversinha... "Lucas and I won't leave LG, I don't know why you are all sending me messages, this is bs. – Acredite no que você lê aqui, sem fofoca =) "Believe in what you read here, no gossips =) " What's wrong about this translation?

2019-01-16 11:40

cool

Wtf no

they are bad boys

terrible idea br would instantly go from 3 teams with a future to just mibr again...

61 replies

-mibr -future pick one

2019-01-13 22:39

58 replies

-navi -future pick one

55 replies

-two top 10 players (s1mple, electronic) -1 smart bot (Zeus) -1 dumb bot (Edward) replace Zeus and Edward, ez future for Na'Vi now tell me how mibr has a future? BR scene will be the french scene in a year.

2019-01-13 23:01

54 replies

cold top10 without winning anything LUL nt noscener

2019-01-13 23:15

48 replies

ropz > baitzera

2019-01-13 23:17

ofc

2019-01-13 23:34

cold is a great player but BR scene is lacking talent besides him

2019-01-13 23:33

44 replies

yes ofc hahahha ofc :D

kscerato, cof cof... yuuriih, cof cof... trk, cof cof... i'm coughing too much; vsm, cof... kng... kscerato kng trk vsm yuuriih even this core is more stronger than any team of your country.

2019-01-14 00:43

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kscerato vsm yurih KKKKKKKK

2019-01-14 01:05

brazil has 150 times the population of eesti though and @ me when any of these players win a major tournament in 2019 (edit: respect on yuuriih though, he's a talented player)

2019-01-14 01:32

Vsm is banned, lol. The last time trk was relevant was at WESG, almost a year ago. I won’t even talk about Yuurih and Kscerato because FURIA proved themselves as a bad org with the kscerato/MiBR thing. Nt, though. BR scene is pretty much dead

2019-01-14 02:22

2019-01-14 03:58

trk smurfing against your compatriots hltv.org/matches/2329985/complexity-vs-t..

2019-01-14 07:05

"smurfing" they lost and 2 players had higher ranking than him. Lmao

2019-01-14 10:48

69 - 59 dumbass.

2019-01-14 10:56

63-51 66-60 so noobs like stanislaw and depph are smurfing vs trk too, nice logic

2019-01-14 13:11

again hltv.org/matches/2326977/teamone-vs-griz..

2019-01-14 07:07

Not banned, just like Joshua Nissan, he can't play majors. As far as i know, steel plays for ghost... He was banned when he was 13, i think ( i don't really know).

2019-01-14 07:12

Other than kng none of these players except maybe kscerato/trk have had experience against real, good teams, mibr or immortals are NOT good teams

2019-01-14 03:51

MIBR ended 2018 as the clear #5, and it's not a good team. Nice try.

2019-01-14 04:50

Other than their one bo3 against astralis they hadn’t beat a real t1 since September

2019-01-14 05:34

How many teams are t1, from your perspective?

2019-01-14 09:40

Astralis liquid Navi faze Sometimes mouz

2019-01-14 17:27

how many times had mibr beaten mouz gain? 16-2 on NaVi last time btw. Liquid without Zews and Taco won't sustain top 3 por too long, Stewie is a great player but Zews was the mastermind behind their tactics.

2019-01-14 18:49

Sometimes mouse is the key phrase in #294 what I meant was mouz at NY. Very solid team but has room for improvement That was a bo1 in which NaVi were already in the final and was a pointless math

2019-01-14 20:11

vsm OMEGALUL

2019-01-14 05:17

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vsm é ruim, o babacão? Eu não vou muito com a cara dele, mas admita, ele joga pra caralho!

2019-01-14 07:09

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mano, vsm é bom aqui jogando a profissinal da gc. n tem como comparar nem com hen1, lucas1 que jogam contra tier1 ... v$m tem muito que provar ainda, para de superestimar ele

2019-01-14 10:54

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Mano, larga de ser besta, pelo amor de deus. Se ele jogasse lá fora, seria a mesma coisa. Na Europa aparece uns nego baludo as vezes, é a mesma coisa do vsm. Tipo o espiranto... a diferença é que ele tá no meio, no olho do cs alto nível, do famoso EU cs. Mas quer saber de uma coisa, ainda acho o vsm melhor que o espiranto. Tira os gêmeos da jogada, pelo menos o LUCAS1, o HEN1 ainda é bom.

2019-01-14 10:59

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Se ele jogasse lá fora seria a mesma coisa kkkkkk nego fuma droga demais ... como vc pode afirmar uma coisa dessa se o cara só jogou uma lan na vida toda ?? pelo amor de Deus cara, para de ser fanboy ... vsm é promissor, mas ainda não é realidade, é PROMESSA

2019-01-14 11:01

Tu leu meu comentário #222? Cara, e quem me diz que teu ponto de vista tá certo? Nesse caso quem fuma droga é você! Como você sabe que ele não iria jogar bem? O cara joga liga profissional da gc, mas ele é destaque. Milhares jogam, mas destaque mesmo, são poucos. Por favor, aprenda a reconhecer uma jóia. Não seja hater sem motivo.

2019-01-14 11:13

E outra, o que tem a ver lan? What? Eu tô comparando o cidadão com o espiranto, que joga contra times como: EURONICS, Vexed, x6tence galaxy, entre outros... Tu achas mesmo que o vsm iria jogar mal contra uma porra de uns times desses? Não tô falando o time da detona como um todo, tô falando de uma line-up forte e com o vsm nela. Mermão, te garanto que não vai ser essa baboseira aí que você falou não. E outra, ele só se queimou de ter xitado quando era mais novo, pois muitos times grandes perdem interesse devido ao major, senão, me arrisco a dizer que ele estaria ou numa MIBR, ou numa Luminosity da vida.

2019-01-14 11:10

SENÃO ME ARRISCO A DIZER QUE ELE ESTARIA NUMA MIBR KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK ainda discuto com uma porra dessa. vai mama o vsm la mlk, sai daqui

2019-01-14 11:27

Sai daqui você, cracudo. Você que veio dando reply, portanto, quem começou a discussão foi você. Lá fora as jóias entram nos times mesmo, é o caso do Brollan, que tá na fnatic. Tu é burro demais, puta que pariu! Você é tão mongolóide a ponto de nem saber escrever direito. Cidadão, vai lá fumar tua maconha pra lá, não enche a porra da paciência. #222 eu disse que não vou com a cara do mesmo e o mongoloide, que fugiu da escola, que não sabe interpretar texto, me chama de fanboy pela milésima vez, puta que pariu! Por isso que o país é mal visto assim. Cara, tu tem nome de jogador de futebol, tem porra mais irrelevante que isso? Seu merda!

2019-01-14 12:17

tem sim vc é mais irrelevante que tudo kkkkk, para de dar rage por causa de vsm mlkinho aceite o fato de que ele NUNCA teria vaga ATUALMENTE em um time como a mibr, não é nem 30% do jogador que é cold, fallen fer, taco e nem o felps... talvez tivesse vaga numa intz, nem na lg teria ... fanboy enrustido

2019-01-14 12:53

Eu não tô dando rage, cara. Você realmente interpreta mal os textos, kkkkkkkkk. Dica: Volte pra escola e seja feliz! Tu tens noção da tua ignorância? Comparando vsm com cold, kkkkk. Vai me dizer que o taco é 30% do cold? Meu caro, pare de falar merda, por favor. /close

2019-01-14 21:28

tiltou amigão? Nego tóxico, deve ter menos de 80% de reputação na GC

2019-01-14 12:54

Eu tiltei? Eu tô de boa... Você é outro mongolão que aposto que não leu porra nenhuma. E diferente de você, nunca dei rage nesse joguinho. A questão é, me aparece idiotas como você, aí não tem como ter paciência. Como você sabe que eu sou tóxico? O cara me ofendeu, eu ofendi de volta, queridão... Você julga meu comportamento dentro do jogo baseado nisso aqui? Aí é idiotice...

2019-01-14 21:25

Nunca lhe disseram que se alguém te der um tapa, pra oferecer o outro lado? Pelo visto não. Tilta não filhote!

2019-01-15 11:42

Whatever! /close

2019-01-15 22:31

O cara é bom jogando na profissional da gc, porque é somente o que tem pra ele; não tem mais porra nenhuma que preste.

Yeah he is. I wont even argue with you because you are too stupid to understand.

2019-01-14 23:07

Bla bla bla bla... whatever! /close

2019-01-14 23:38

hahahahaha

2019-01-14 06:49

Want more? arT pancc exit leo_drunky shz (who has international experience, but still very young) destiny (same as shz) chelo(65% headshot, the brazilian scream) What do you want more?

2019-01-14 07:23

every scene has tier 4 players

2019-01-14 07:37

You said that we are lacking in talents, dude, We are really fine to be honest. Or do you want 1 coldzera per year? If it is, then show me the "second" s1mple from Ukraine? Or, the "second" twistzz from Canada? You only have ropz, kid, please, don't be mad.

2019-01-14 07:48

i think you misunderstand me. BR scene no doubt has talent still, just saying it's not as relevant as it used to be and it will get increasingly less relevant in major events as FalleN, fer, and cold are all declining, similarly seen in the french scene. comparatively, french scene still has ZyWoo and fresh talent like BR scene, but they aren't as relevant as their respective eras.

2019-01-14 09:01

Hmm, you are right then.

2019-01-14 10:15

Zeus smart? XDDDDDDDD His IQ is below 100

2019-01-13 23:20

perhaps he meant experienced..

2019-01-14 04:13

mb, experienced is a better word

2019-01-14 09:02

navi more like s1mple and electronic + friends

2019-01-14 14:08

2019-01-14 15:18

2019-01-13 23:24

Na'Vi Future after Zeus retire lul

2019-01-14 00:15

emaibiar

Not a single br team has a future right now

hen1 denied it on twitter btw

yup a pro denied a roster move on twitter, definitely not happening

2019-01-13 22:55

+1, not like anybody has ever done that

Yep, rain said the same about AdreN at FaZe

Hen1 saied that he and lucas will DEFINILLY not exit from lg

2019-01-14 05:41

“U can’t confirm shit pleb”

2019-01-14 16:50

Didnt he sayied "i cant confirm a shit"?

2019-01-14 17:09

No.

2019-01-14 17:54

Implies they have a better option on the cards, wonder where they could head next.

rumored they want to link up with fnx again. ya know how well that went last time

Fat RIP for the BR scene

2019-01-13 22:44

They already Said its fake news

2019-01-14 04:15

OGC Hen1 and LUCAS

LuL

LUL

twins team destroyers expected

hen1 denied the rumor twitter.com/HEN1/status/1084558164866027..

2019-01-14 02:00

Gay they probably hop on each other dicks as well

Fucking idiots, they cant stay in a single team omg

2019-01-13 23:00

2019-01-13 23:11

2019-01-14 01:09

idiots

Hax

God those two are absolute morons

2019-01-13 22:40

Lul

hen1 denied on twitter already

AdreN denied too about FaZe

with fnx hahaahahahahahahaahah from tier3 to tier100

what XD

EZ tier 500

they're so dumb, they've done this multiple times and it has never worked out. it's a shame, just as lg was looking promising, boltz and steel get cucked again smh

Lmao

XDDDDDD

Fail again!

It's not true ! Hen1 said on Twitter

wtf, LG lineup was looking so cool... *well, HEN1 just posted that they will not leave: twitter.com/HEN1/status/1084558164866027..

just check hen1's twitter guys and translate coz it's in portuguesse

These two are worst than entire french scene,everytime they are leaving teams,no wonder why they aren't considered to be TOP players. These 2 are responsible for Brazil scene not evolving as it should.

they'll never play for different teams it seems

2019-01-13 22:43

Wtff, boltz just joined luminosity and hen1 and lucas1 ate quiting... Buf boltz should go with them and fnx join later...

fake newsssssss

2019-01-14 10:55

be smart and to Hen1+lucas1+boltz+kngV+steel and old IMT is back

2019-01-14 01:59

How to end your career in one step

hen denied it on his twitter, but i still thinking fnx gonna join lg replacing nekiz

time to bring immortals back.

2019-01-13 22:41

actually was 3 steps, immortals, 100thieves and now xD

lmao

Why they don't want to split up

annoying guys,over and over again lmfao

/disband and never i SAD NEVER COME BACK!!!

2019-01-13 22:42

they will not leave twitter.com/HEN1/status/1084558164866027..

twitter.com/HEN1/status/1084566119267086.. is fake news

HEN1 said it's fake news

players always say like that

2019-01-13 23:05

The toxic twins will strike again..

just -nekiz and +fnx????????????

2019-01-13 22:46

fake news

the famous Snakeles brothers

lucas should play alone without his brother

2019-01-13 22:48

Nothing but a rumor (according to HEN1).

2019-01-13 22:49

HEN1 calling this fake news, lol. Donald Trump's greatest contribution (imo) thus far is his diction/cadence/etc. Fake news, ending statements with single adjective sentences, etc. The Brazilians are even catching on. Great.

Lol, LUCAS and HEN1 they fcked up their careers, they always leave the teams, nowadays noone want this guys on a team because of this. They make the teams disband.

2019-01-13 22:54

Im the only one that hate these 2 players so fucking much ? Just fucking orgs 24/7 leaving and acting like 12 year old kids

2019-01-13 22:53

fake news bro, they are not leaving.

2019-01-14 15:58

_FAKE NEWS_

twitter.com/HEN1/status/1084566119267086.. "Until tomorrow, this will be a completely hell. I repeat, me and Lucas are not leaving LG. It's fake news"

Lol HLTV Not confirmed XD

2019-01-13 23:14

Career destroyers. Hen could haven been top 5 awp Lucas could have been top 5 entry

Okay hold your horses

Nope.

2019-01-14 00:18

Twins toxics, if they not change their minds and habits, they will change rooster in a infinite loop

2019-01-13 22:59

what a shitshow

They miss fnx style parties.

HEN1 and LUCAS1 leaving boltz and steel to form a team with fnx. Guess it's rewind time! 👏👏

lol its Tempo Storm again, tf Brazilians living in the past rn?

2019-01-13 23:02

HLTV JEBAITED OMEGALUL

2019-01-13 23:03

- nekiz and add fnx maybe ?

fnx washed up

2019-01-13 23:08

Dickheads changing teams every 3 months

2019-01-13 23:04

Draft5 8/8, HLTV baited succesfully

xD nice joke cs scene

changing teams every month.. 'pros' my ass

He just said on his twitter he is not leaving LG...

2019-01-13 23:09

Just do -nekiz + fnx then

Lol just read that it's fake. Hltv tripping?

FAKE NEWS!

every time the same wtf

lmao why do these shit kids think they can do any better, shit attitudes and shit players, hen1 missing 100 sitters for every shot hit

2019-01-13 23:19

Legit same lineup in 100thieves---- DISBANDED,legit same lineup in NTC----DISBANDED,and now they want to go same lineup again OMEGAGIGALUL

twins = shitheads

season 8 episode 14

2019-01-13 23:32

HLTV replying fake news?

toxic brothers

2019-01-13 23:38

Follow KngV means follow into the bottom of your career.

Nice fake news HLTV ahahaha

2019-01-13 23:39

Fake news

2019-01-13 23:40

FAVELAS SEASON 2 EPISODE 3 PogChamp

FAKE NEWS (TRUMP IS TRIGGERED)

2019-01-13 23:42

They stopped doing damage and getting global results long ago ..

2019-01-13 23:46

Draft5 sources: I sure the God! Lmao...

2019-01-13 23:47

Those two brothers are nothing but troubles. Why teams even bother to pick them up is beyond me.

2019-01-13 23:56

NA level roster move.

2019-01-14 00:03

Pretty sure no one really cares at this point, those two are trouble and no one really wants them or keeps them for very long

2019-01-14 00:04

RIP toxic duo

2019-01-14 00:06

WHAT ARE THEY DOING???? SINCE THE MAJOR WHEN THEY MADE IT TO THE FINAL, THEY NEVER PLAYED IN A BIG LAN, OR ANYTHING, WTF??????????????????????

2019-01-14 00:07

fake news, bro, chill

2019-01-14 00:12

fucking irrelevant rats :) hope they will never achieve anything anymore

2019-01-14 07:45

It would surprise me if Stew and Tarik still in MiBR

fake news kkkk

retard rats, ever since that incident in Immortals, they've been nothing but losers.

HENI and LUCASI or HEN and LUCAS?

2019-01-14 00:29

LUCAS1 (Lucas one) and HEN1 (hen one, but like "heni one")

2019-01-14 00:35

"heni" isn't how it is supposed to be said hen one would be the correct

2019-01-14 01:30

hen1 and lucas kys fkin pieces of crapes omg wat a idiot leaving all orgs all years all days omfg kill this reatrads now pls leave this world fkin trashes garbages cunts destroyers of lifes im so triggered

2019-01-14 00:56

2019-01-14 04:17

+1 xD

Hen and Lucas top 1 team destroyers

2019-01-14 01:06

+100000

2019-01-14 01:14

kNg must have given them really good shit at that event where they all drunk to make them this stupid now

2019-01-14 01:15

Fake news mobile.twitter.com/HEN1/status/108455816..

2019-01-14 01:16

FAKE

2019-01-14 01:33

I'm looking forward to see pancc's performance. I tought he should be on MIBR's 5th list after kcerato :(

2019-01-14 01:35

These guys must have around 70 IQ.

2019-01-14 02:53

flag checks out

2019-01-14 03:15

just stay in a team for 2 months

2019-01-14 03:23

These guys seem so scared of commitment. They don't stick it out with anyone, for seemingly petty or nonsensical reasons. If you play well as a team, then stick it out as a team.

2019-01-14 03:28

Listen to your president when he says "You are fake news"

2019-01-14 05:20

I certainly hope it's fake news (which it most likely is). I personally have high hopes for Luminosity, and I'd like to see a repeat of their accomplishments during their time in Immortals.

2019-01-14 05:55

I don't think they will leave a estable team to joing fnx again. Especially because they had an agrument in NTC. And I believe they left IMT mainly because Noah deceived kng.

2019-01-14 07:13

I don't think I'd use the word "deceived". Noah removed kng because he created a PR disaster by threatening FNS and calling Thorin homophobic slurs. I agree it may have been an overreaction to kick him if it was a one-off thing, but it was a reoccuring issue of kng saying stupid crap and thus creating controversy. I don't know about you, but if one of my employees started making threats and calling people by slurs, I'd boot his ass too. Reputation means a lot when you own a company, and kng was dragging thr Immortals name through the mud.

2019-01-14 07:33

I just said Noah deceived him bc he suspended kng, but somenone autorized him to play probably without Noah's knowledge (or not) and then the big boss used this situation to justify his decision. Btw I totally agree that kng was stupid and should be punished. (maybe a fee?)

2019-01-14 23:05

-fer +fnx

2019-01-14 03:34

The new is: -NEKIZ +fnx Just it!

lol

2019-01-14 03:57

LUL nice google translate HLTV. In this instance "doido" means "excited" and not "crazy". So Hen1 meant that he is excited to be playing CS 24/7, not that he is crazy.

2019-01-14 04:07

Crazy can be used there as well

2019-01-14 05:19

In english it doesn't make sense nor sounds good to say "I'm crazy to play CS 24/7", saying "I'm excited to play CS 24/7" or "I can't wait to play CS 24/7" is a much better translation of "doido pra jogar CS 24/7".

2019-01-14 19:15

Crazy also can be used as an adjective: I am crazy to travel to Japan It can be used with excited: I am crazy excited to see you You are being too literal with the meaning of words here.

2019-01-14 23:32

yes, you're right, but it just sounds weird to me to use the word "crazy'' instead of other options.

2019-01-15 13:37

Of course they'd be thinking about ruining another team to start another one of their hopeless efforts to make another team like immortals. They'll never get that luck ever again.

2019-01-14 04:36

the twins of destruction

2019-01-14 04:49

''Me and lucas will not leave LG, I do not even know why you so sending me msg, but it's all talk...Believe in what you read here, without gossip =)'' mobile.twitter.com/HEN1/status/108455816..

2019-01-14 04:57

again

2019-01-14 04:59