Top 20 players of 2018: NAF (6)

Remarkable impact and consistency at Big Events see Keith "NAF" Markovic claim the sixth spot in the top 20 ranking of 2018, powered by EGB.com.

Top 20 Players of 2018: Introduction

A former CS:Source player, NAF started making his way into the upper echelons of the North American CS:GO scene in 2014. His first tournament on record was FACEIT League NA Season 2 with LunatiK, who mostly consisted of players who are still competing at the top nowadays. At the time, however, the most famous player on the team was perhaps Preston "juv3nile" Dornon, who had attended Dreamhack Winter 2012, one of the very first international CS:GO events, with Curse.

NAF at this first big LAN, the ESEA Invite S7 Finals

Towards the end of that year, and after his team had been recruited by Denial, NAF attended his first international LAN, the ESEA Invite Season 17 Global Finals. Despite undergoing a few roster changes, Denial raised eyebrows as they finished in fourth place, ahead of Cloud9 and Titan, with NAF already showing his natural ability to compete with some of the best players in the world at the time as he registered a 1.18 rating, second only to Kenny "kennyS" Schrub (1.41).

"I was introduced to the world of Counter-Strike by my older brother in 2007/2008, I would sit behind him and try to learn from watching him. Once I was around 11 or 12, he invited me to play on his Main team in ESEA and that it is where I pretty much started my grind. LunatiK was the start of my semi-pro career, during that time I was playing with some familiar faces like Daps,FugLy, and ShahZaM. After LunatiK we became Denial and that is where our dreams of becoming CS pros could become a reality. We were just a bunch of inexperienced and young kids trying our best to break through and show people what we could bring.

“The ESEA Finals was the first big LAN that I attended, and I wanted to give off a solid first impression to everyone. I remember we had to play Titan first and, coming from CS:Source, it was an amazing feeling just being in the same server with players like RpK,Ex6TenZ, and apEX.
I think the biggest impact that was left on us after that event was the win vs Cloud9, who were the best NA team back then. Beating them showed us light for our careers.”

2015 began with the team being recruited by Liquid, who were expanding into CS:GO, but it was merely a short stay for NAF as the Canadian found himself on the bench after just a couple of months and two LAN events where he had looked nothing like his usual self. For NAF, that was the start of a very difficult year, one in which he hopped from team to team and averaged a disappointing 0.93 LAN rating as he struggled with motivation issues as Damian "daps" Steele recounted in our July 2018 feature, ‘Hush or howl: NAF's road to stardom’.

"At the start of 2015 I was definitely going through a phase in which I simply just had no interest in playing CS and that obviously resulted in me being removed from Liquid. It was difficult to find my place in teams in 2015 and I never had the chance to find my footing and to start building up my career.”

2016 marked the beginning of a new chapter for NAF as he and the rest of his Conquest team were picked up by OpTic Gaming, another household name in North American esports looking to enter Counter-Strike. After some shaky performances and a couple of line-up changes, bringing in Oscar "mixwell" Cañellas and Tarik "tarik" Celik, OpTic hit peak form and won the second ELEAGUE season after beating Astralis in the final, in which NAF posted a team-leading 1.50 rating/+33 KDD. The North American team followed up on that Atlanta campaign by winning Northern Arena Montreal and placing second at the ECS Season 2 Finals, with NAF ending the year with a 1.03 LAN rating (1.08 at Big Events).

"2016 is still my favourite year in my CS career. Winning ELEAGUE was the best feeling I have ever had, especially after my performance in the final against Astralis. ECS was a disaster for us in the end, but it was also a very memorable tournament for me."

NAF led the 'Green Wall' to success at ELEAGUE Season 2

Things took an unexpected turn for OpTic as Peter "stanislaw" Jarguz signed for Liquid right after the ELEAGUE Major, leaving a void that NAF and his team-mates would never be able to properly fill. After a turbulent period in which Spencer "Hiko" Martin, Jason "jasonR" Ruchelski and James "hazed" Cobb all filled in for the team, NAF followed in the footsteps of tarik and William "RUSH" Wierzba in looking for pastures new, eventually signing for Renegades.

The Canadian player had a disappointing debut for the Australian team, averaging a 0.75 rating in the group stage exit at ELEAGUE Premier, but he set the world alight thereafter. He averaged a stunning a 1.32 rating in the last three months of 2017, helping Renegades to victories at the Asia Minor and at the SL i-League Invitational Shanghai, and to a second place at iBUYPOWER Masters. The Chinese event also saw NAF win his first MVP medal thanks to his tournament-leading 1.29 rating, 90.3 ADR and 0.82 KPR.

"After I had no choice to leave OpTic, I was contacted by multiple organizations showing interest in me, and the one that stood out the most for me was Renegades. I originally joined to just do the same type of roles on OpTic, being the "support" type of player, but, after a while, I told the boys that I wanted to be more of a “star” player, I got all the spots I wanted and we did everything I said. I owe a lot to the Renegades for letting me become the player I am today.

"My goals for 2018 were obviously to win as much as we could, but my main goals were to make it to Boston and get top eight at the Major."

NAF proved to be a great fit for Renegades
CanadaNAF
2018 LAN tournament stats
TournamentEvent Team (place) Rating 2.0 (in team) ADR KPR DPR Impact KAST Award
cs_summit 2
(1st)
1.23 (1st, +12%) 86.9 0.77 0.64 1.18 77.6% MVP
StarSeries S4
(3rd)
1.23 (1st, +13%) 89.0 0.79 0.66 1.35 73.3% EVP
IEM Katowice 2018
(3-4th)
1.20 (1st, +21%) 88.5 0.79 0.68 1.24 72.7% EVP
DHM Marseille 2018
(9-12th)
1.06 (3rd, +5%) 76.1 0.73 0.65 0.91 70.5%
EPL S7 Finals
(2nd)
1.10 (2nd, +4%) 85.6 0.70 0.68 1.05 70.6% EVP
StarSeries S5
(5-8th)
1.16 (3rd, +5%) 84.8 0.70 0.64 1.16 70.5%
ECS S5 Finals
(2nd)
1.30 (1st, +12%) 88.7 0.79 0.59 1.32 75.6% EVP
ESL One Belo Horizonte
(3-4th)
1.10 (1st, +10%) 78.9 0.66 0.66 1.01 73.4%
ESL One Cologne 2018
(13-16th)
1.01 (2nd, +6%) 79.9 0.72 0.74 1.04 61.2%
EL Premier 2018
(2nd)
1.23 (1st, +13%) 83.0 0.77 0.60 1.21 75.7% EVP
FACEIT Major 2018
(3-4th)
1.24 (1st, +13%) 87.4 0.78 0.64 1.16 76.7% EVP
ESL One NY 2018
(2nd)
1.14 (3rd, -4%) 76.5 0.66 0.60 1.10 74.5%
EPICENTER 2018
(3-4th)
1.32 (1st, +9%) 78.7 0.77 0.46 1.21 79.3% EVP
IEM Chicago 2018
(2nd)
1.10 (2nd, +3%) 79.9 0.65 0.65 1.06 71.1% EVP
ECS S6 Finals
(7-8th)
0.90 (3rd, +1%) 74.9 0.60 0.75 1.01 59.3%
SuperNova Malta
(1st)
1.31 (1st, +9%) 78.3 0.76 0.50 1.17 82.9% MVP
EPL S8 Finals
(2nd)
1.31 (1st, +14%) 89.5 0.81 0.58 1.28 75.3% EVP
5% above average
5%+ below average
Closer than 5% to average

Sadly for NAF, one of his goals for 2018 proved unattainable as Renegades crashed out of the ELEAGUE Major in the New Challengers Stage after recording losses to Vega Squadron, Liquid, mousesports and AVANGAR. For the Canadian, who posted a 1.20 rating despite the team’s shortcomings, that was the end of a journey as not long after the Major came to an end he was recruited by Liquid to replace Josh "jdm64" Marzano.

“I think we were just less prepared against a lot of the other teams and we also ran into other teams we did not know, like Vega Squadron and AVANGAR. That threw us off-guard during our games. In the end, we just cracked under the pressure."

NAF could not have wished for a better debut for Liquid. At cs_summit 2, he led the team to victory with a 1.23 rating, also taking centre stage in the final against Cloud9 with a 1.30 rating in the series. The Canadian, who was in the stats leaderboards in 14 categories, leading five of them, was rewarded for his efforts with an MVP medal, the second of his career.

"It felt great [to win the event and the MVP medal]! Being named the MVP was good since I think it gave my teammates some reassurance that picking me up was no mistake. I joined Liquid because I truly believed that they had the best talent in North America and that we could do some solid work together. With me coming into the lineup I felt like we could definitely turn some heads and raise trophies."

Riding the wave from his cs_summit 2 heroics, NAF helped Liquid to semi-final finishes at his first Big Events with the team, StarSeries Season 4 and IEM Katowice, earning two EVP mentions in the process. In Kiev, the Canadian had the fourth-highest overall rating (1.23) and ended half of the 20 maps that he played with ratings higher than 1.30. He also impressed when it came to clutches, winning 12 1vsX situations, and was ranked fourth for ADR. In Katowice, his 1.20 rating was 21% higher than Liquid's average, and he was the team's top performer in every match in the double-elimination group stage.

A proud NAF exhibits his first two MVP medals

IEM Katowice ended up being the final event for that Liquid roster. At the beginning of April, Lucas "steel" Lopes stepped down from the active line-up and was replaced by fellow Brazilian Epitacio "TACO" de Melo, who had departed SK. Without surprise, the North American team bombed out of DreamHack Masters Marseille after losing to eventual champion Astralis and to Gambit - who would go on to reach the semi finals - in the group stage, with NAF posting a 1.06 rating, only the third highest in the team.

"It was not a surprise that we went out in the groups, not at all. Bringing in TACO didn’t change much in terms of roles, but when bringing in someone new you have to practice a lot and build the chemistry together, and going into Marseille we just didn’t have a lot of time together as a team, so it fell apart."

With TACO fully integrated, Liquid reached the grand final of ESL Pro League Season 7 and ECS Season 5, losing to Astralis on both occasions. In between, the team were sent packing by NRG in the quarter-finals of StarSeries Season 5, where NAF had his highest-rated map of the year (2.33 in the team's 16-2 thrashing of GODSENT).

Liquid reached the final at EPL S7 and ECS S5

The Canadian talent made the EVP list in Dallas on account of his 1.26 rating in map wins leading to victories and his solid showing against mousesports (1.41 rating, 101.5 ADR). In London, he was a solid contender for the MVP award right until the second map of the grand final, ending the tournament with a 1.30 rating, the same as MVP Nicolai "device" Reedtz, an 88.3 ADR and a 75.6% KAST.

Questioned if he was more frustrated about Liquid continuously hitting a brick wall every time they faced Astralis or confident because of the team's consistent deep runs, NAF said:

"Always felt a little bit of both, I always leaned towards it being on the right path although losing sucks, you just have to get through it. I know in the professional world of Counter-Strike that if you lose a big final you will always have a shot at redemption, with the number of tournaments being held."

Liquid missed a great opportunity to win a Big Event at ESL One Belo Horizonte, where they were surprisingly outplayed by FaZe and mousesports - two teams attending the event with stand-ins. NAF had a 1.10 rating in the team's semi-final run, but it was not enough to break into the EVP list, featuring only players who were in the final.

Liquid did not live up to their status as favourites in Belo Horizonte

The North American team then had their second group stage exit with NAF at ESL One Cologne, where they lost to BIG and North. The Canadian had a 1.01 rating, the second-best in Liquid, only behind Jonathan "EliGE" Jablonowski, who admitted that the team had become "a little bit stale" on their good maps and had not had enough time to improve their worse ones.

"Traveling was definitely a factor, also some people were having personal issues and we couldn't practice at all, leaving us to go into the event completely dry and nothing to go off of. In the end, we were just stale and had no preparation."

Next up was ELEAGUE Premier, where Liquid once again had to settle for second place as Astralis proved to be too strong for the North Americans. NAF led the EVP list as he featured in the stats leaderboards in nine categories, most notably rating (1.23), ADR (83.0) and KAST (75.7%), with his only below-average rated maps coming in the title decider against the Danes.

Having decided to skip DreamHack Masters Stockholm, Liquid made their first post-break appearance at the FACEIT Major. The North American side came through the opening two stages virtually unscathed, even beating Astralis in an intense Inferno game that went to overtime. The victory over the Danish side appeared to have taken a huge weight off the team's shoulders, but they would not be able to repeat that feat in the semi-finals series, in which Lukas "gla1ve" Rossander's troops were always one step ahead.

NAF was Liquid's only EVP at the FACEIT Major

In London, NAF was the only Liquid player to make the EVP list, thanks his high rating (1.24 overall, 1.38 in map wins), ADR (87.4) and KAST (76.7%), and also his key role in the quarter-final series against HellRaisers, in which he topped the scoreboard with a 1.39 rating/+16KDD.

"I honestly do not know [what went wrong against Astralis], I had never felt more prepared for a match in my life, and to just get completely crushed was a huge blow. Astralis are just a very efficient and dedicated team, and I just have to give them complete props on how consistently strong they are.

"Even though we only finished third-fourth, it was by far my best memory of the year. I reached a huge goal of mine at that event, which was making it to the Top8 of a Major."

ESL One New York looked like the perfect opportunity for Liquid to get back to winning ways, especially after Natus Vincere and FaZe had been eliminated in the group stage. However, the North Americans collapsed in the best-of-five grand final against mousesports, with NAF himself looking inconsequential as he averaged a disappointing 0.91 rating to end the tournament with a 1.14 rating - the only time in 2018 in which his rating was below the team's average.

"That was just a very unlucky and unfortunate event for me. I got sick at the start of the event and I was playing all the games just feeling like complete garbage. On the final day of the event, my sickness literally hit its peak, I was playing mousesports with a massive migraine and could barely hear due to how sick I was. My energy was low, I was trying my best to not pass out on stage. After we lost, I felt even worse since I had literally handed mouz the trophy after my catastrophe of a bo5.

"That was my worst memory of 2018. It was something I don’t ever want to go through again."

Liquid travelled to Moscow looking to shake off the disappointment from New York, but they had to settle for a top-four finish after falling short against FaZe in the semi-finals. It was at EPICENTER that NAF had his highest Big Event rating of the year (1.32), mostly due to his group stage performances. The Canadian player ranked first for deaths per round (0.46), KAST (79.3%) and percentage of support rounds (25.0%), appearing in third place on the list of EVPs from the tournament.

NAF says he could not be at his best at ESL One NY due to health reasons

The 21-year-old then grabbed his eighth EVP mention of the year in Liquid's semi-final run at IEM Chicago, where they once against fell short against Astralis in a title decider after defeating LDLC and FaZe in the first two rounds of the playoffs. NAF - the only Liquid player to make the EVP list apart from Russel "Twistzz" Van Dulken - led his team for Terrorist rating (1.21) and ADR (79.9), while he was the second-best when it came to rating in wins (1.34).

The ECS Season 6 Finals were a low point for the Canadian and Liquid as a whole. The North American side went out last following defeats to North and NRG, with NAF registering a 0.90 rating - his sole below-average tournament rating in 2018.

"ECS just didn't seem to be our event, we just got completely destroyed. It was all just a blur to me how quickly the event was over for us. If I had to say a reason for the early exit, it would be that we did not bring our A-game and we just let it slip."

Liquid ended their trophyless run at SuperNova CS:GO Malta, a medium-sized tournament, by beating Virtus.pro, BIG and NRG (twice), dropping just one map along the way. NAF, who had five 1.30+ rated maps in eight and led the tournament for deaths per round (0.50), KAST (82.9%) and percentage of support rounds (28.3%), scooped his second MVP medal of the year as he finished ahead of teammates EliGE and Twistzz in the race for the award.

"It was nice to get that feeling of another tournament win, but nothing has felt the same to me since the ELEAGUE win I had with OpTic. Winning SuperNova and cs_summit was nice, but I want to raise another tier one trophy.

"It felt good taking revenge on NRG, I talk with daps a lot and it’s always nice to talk sh*t to each other every time one of us beats the other."

The year ended for Liquid at the ESL Pro League Season 8 Finals. NAF led the team to the playoffs with a stunning 1.74 rating in the group stage matches over G2 and BIG, and he proceeded to crush MIBR in the semi-finals with a jaw-dropping performance (1.98 rating, +33KDD, 119.0 ADR). Up against his nemesis Astralis in the final, the Canadian acquitted himself well (1.09 rating), though EliGE was far more of a threat to the Danes, who came back from a map down to win the series 3-1).

NAF was once again second in the MVP race of a Big Event thanks to his 1.31 rating - his second-highest of 2018 -, 89.5 ADR (a year-high for him) and 1.28 impact rating. Perhaps most impressively was the fact that, of the seven maps that he played with teams other than Astralis, only once did he have a rating lower than 1.30 (1.21 on Dust2 against Natus Vincere).

"I don’t recall much versus BIG and MIBR, except my Overpass performance I had in the semi-finals versus MIBR. About the final, I told my teammates that we did not stand a chance against Astralis on Nuke at the moment and that we needed to try something different. We got on early before the final and went over Train, Zews showed us some simple executes that he stole from Astralis and Mibr. Nitr0 just called a lot of random setups and strats since we didn’t know what we were even doing as we had not played the map in months. I felt like if we had won Mirage we would have won the whole thing. Props to Astralis again for being so dominant."

Why was NAF the 6th best player of 2018?

Every player in the top six excelled throughout the year in terms of impact and consistency, and NAF was no exception. Looking merely at Big Events, the Canadian player ranked fourth in terms of damage per round (83.9), clutches won (59) and rating (1.17).

He caught the eye with MVP medals at the medium-sized cs_summit 2 and SuperNova Malta, but it was his nine EVP mentions from Big Events that secured his elite status, particularly the ones from the ESL Pro League Season 8 Finals, ELEAGUE Premier and ECS Season 5 Finals, three events where he was a runner-up in the MVP race.

Grand final performances cost NAF a top-five spot

NAF was also extremely useful in ways that did not translate only into kills, averaging 0.16 damage assists (sixth-highest overall), in part due to his great utility usage (6.0 damage per round, 10th highest).

The Canadian boasted a very high 1.12 playoff rating, but ultimately missed out on a top-five placing due to two things: worse consistency when compared to the contenders who finished above him in this ranking and lacklustre grand final performances at Big Events. He averaged just a 0.99 rating in 20 maps played in title deciders of tournaments of this stature, most of which against Astralis, who proved to be a nemesis to the player.

"In 2019 I really want to win a tier-one event and to have another consistent year of individual and team success."

Bold prediction

Three NRG players were shortlisted by NAF, who in the end picked Vincent "Brehze" Cayonte as the one most likely to appear in the next top 20 ranking. In 2018, the 20-year-old averaged a 1.14 rating on LAN, picking up an MVP medal after helping the team to win cs_summit 3.

United States Vincent "Brehze" Cayonte

"It’s the trio of NRG that stand out to me (nahtE, Brehze and CeRq), but if I had to pick one, I would put my money on Brehze as he is a solid entry with aim skills similar to Twistzz.

Stay tuned to our Top 20 players of 2018 ranking powered by EGB.com and take a look at the Introduction article to learn more about how the players were selected.

Brazil Epitacio 'TACO' de Melo
Epitacio 'TACO' de Melo
Age:
24
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.95
Maps played:
835
KPR:
0.62
DPR:
0.64
APR:
0.12
United States Preston 'juv3nile' Dornon
Preston 'juv3nile' Dornon
Age:
-
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
0.72
Maps played:
16
KPR:
0.50
DPR:
0.72
APR:
0.15
Canada Russel 'Twistzz' Van Dulken
Russel 'Twistzz' Van Dulken
Age:
19
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.14
Maps played:
741
KPR:
0.76
DPR:
0.63
APR:
0.12
United States Josh 'jdm64' Marzano
Josh 'jdm64' Marzano
Age:
28
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.02
Maps played:
793
KPR:
0.69
DPR:
0.65
APR:
0.11
United States James 'hazed' Cobb
James 'hazed' Cobb
Age:
29
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.00
Maps played:
660
KPR:
0.69
DPR:
0.69
APR:
0.15
United States Jonathan 'EliGE' Jablonowski
Jonathan 'EliGE' Jablonowski
Age:
21
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.07
Maps played:
994
KPR:
0.75
DPR:
0.69
APR:
0.16
Denmark Nicolai 'device' Reedtz
Nicolai 'device' Reedtz
Age:
23
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.17
Maps played:
1276
KPR:
0.79
DPR:
0.63
APR:
0.13
United States Vincent 'Brehze' Cayonte
Vincent 'Brehze' Cayonte
Age:
20
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.12
Maps played:
646
KPR:
0.77
DPR:
0.67
APR:
0.13
Spain Oscar 'mixwell' Cañellas
Oscar 'mixwell' Cañellas
Age:
23
Rating 1.0:
1.10
Maps played:
681
KPR:
0.75
DPR:
0.66
APR:
0.14
Canada Peter 'stanislaw' Jarguz
Peter 'stanislaw' Jarguz
Age:
24
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.99
Maps played:
850
KPR:
0.67
DPR:
0.66
APR:
0.15
Canada Keith 'NAF' Markovic
Keith 'NAF' Markovic
Age:
21
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.09
Maps played:
956
KPR:
0.74
DPR:
0.64
APR:
0.16
Canada Damian 'daps' Steele
Damian 'daps' Steele
Age:
25
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.88
Maps played:
781
KPR:
0.58
DPR:
0.66
APR:
0.15
United States Tarik 'tarik' Celik
Tarik 'tarik' Celik
Age:
23
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
1.06
Maps played:
1014
KPR:
0.74
DPR:
0.67
APR:
0.15
United States Spencer 'Hiko' Martin
Spencer 'Hiko' Martin
Age:
28
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.04
Maps played:
898
KPR:
0.68
DPR:
0.62
APR:
0.14
Brazil Lucas 'steel' Lopes
Lucas 'steel' Lopes
Age:
25
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.98
Maps played:
822
KPR:
0.66
DPR:
0.66
APR:
0.13
Canada Jason 'jasonR' Ruchelski
Jason 'jasonR' Ruchelski
Age:
24
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
0.90
Maps played:
289
KPR:
0.63
DPR:
0.71
APR:
0.15
Denmark Lukas 'gla1ve' Rossander
Lukas 'gla1ve' Rossander
Age:
23
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.01
Maps played:
1119
KPR:
0.68
DPR:
0.66
APR:
0.17
United States William 'RUSH' Wierzba
William 'RUSH' Wierzba
Age:
24
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.02
Maps played:
911
KPR:
0.70
DPR:
0.67
APR:
0.15
France Kenny 'kennyS' Schrub
Kenny 'kennyS' Schrub
Age:
23
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.15
Maps played:
1398
KPR:
0.78
DPR:
0.63
APR:
0.11
#1
Havoc | 
Czech Republic mitsorubi 
expected
2019-01-15 20:00
yes
2019-01-15 20:00
Deserved
2019-01-15 20:00
#131
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Germany Baaktus 
Totally deserved, great year from NAF
2019-01-15 20:10
#136
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Ukraine statpad1mple 
I’m gonna be #2 in this list GJ device, you’re a true champion and tbh electronic should be ranked higher than me because I’m just a selfish stat padder 😢
2019-01-15 20:13
Lmao +1 for effort
2019-01-15 20:18
Gj Naf
2019-01-15 20:30
#190
TACO | 
Finland sunnahh 
God NAF
2019-01-15 20:43
#199
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Austria shaakeh 
expected NAF
2019-01-15 20:53
Gonna laugh at you when he gets number one lol, just 5 days!
2019-01-15 21:19
1 Device . . . . 6 NAF #Tothestars Astralis Best team in the world
2019-01-15 22:28
2018 not 2019. Danish tard.
2019-01-15 22:35
+1 xD
2019-01-16 07:55
cold>device
2019-01-15 23:08
#316
gla1ve | 
Europe catre 
cold atm. Nope, but in 2016 and 2017, yes
2019-01-16 03:08
toxic
2019-01-16 09:03
#319
apEX | 
United Kingdom UKChef 
If NAF got ranked higher than Magisk I've no doubt s1mple gets #1
2019-01-16 04:04
#347
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Spain N0Love 
As he should
2019-01-16 09:29
0/8
2019-01-16 09:07
Get cancer cheers :)
2019-01-16 16:57
LOL, ELEC>NAF??? HILARIOUS
2019-01-15 20:11
eletronic > naf kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
2019-01-15 20:29
its hltv man :( eu bias is high.
2019-01-15 20:31
Haha it's a comedy show! Great laughs so far
2019-01-15 20:33
...EU bias is high... now i believe
2019-01-15 21:11
#298
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Indonesia Astranesia 
hmm i agree with u
2019-01-16 00:08
HLTV overhyping Na’vi
2019-01-15 20:55
Ah it's a Navi advertisement funded by the org, kOOOl like ropz
2019-01-15 20:56
#286
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Australia CaZeR01 
u should b ashamed of yourself for making such a bad joke
2019-01-15 23:46
There are 9999% worse jokes with racism than my current joke present above sit cazer
2019-01-15 23:55
Flag, CHECK
2019-01-16 10:33
knew it
2019-01-15 20:00
BIG OOF
2019-01-15 20:06
well deserved, one of the best NA players
2019-01-15 20:00
#179
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Portugal deuziankevin 
TACO > NAF Zeus > NAF Edward > NAF Me > NAF NAF NOOB
2019-01-15 20:32
#219
Jame | 
Portugal gazav 
fucking braindead!
2019-01-15 21:16
#256
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Portugal deuziankevin 
+1
2019-01-15 22:18
#49
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Israel unsolid 
Electronic top 5? undeservedddd
2019-01-15 20:02
dunno. it can happen
2019-01-15 20:07
#262
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Denmark d347hbr1ng3r 
why undeserved, this guy is just insane, s1mple and him was carrying navi the whole year
2019-01-15 22:33
S1mple + electronic best carry duo. Btw, electronic (0 mvp) > NAF(1 mvp) , Magisk (1 mvp, 1x major) On this way , s1mple gonna be 1
2019-01-16 07:12
#331
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India AMKW 
Again this shit comparing MVPs rather than seeing what is the real stuff , ranking depends on player performance how he plays and has dominated other players . Noobs like you just see who got the MVP and say they are the best , pretty sad
2019-01-16 07:17
LoL , idiot? I tried to said in my post that mvp's doesn't matter and s1mple gonna be top 1 . S1mple better than device. Device without Astralis is shit.
2019-01-16 07:22
#339
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India AMKW 
Yeah my bad , didn't read I support you Stop using offensive words , thank you Nibshit
2019-01-16 08:10
it`s ok
2019-01-16 13:28
#348
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Spain N0Love 
With that logic Device also should be #1 #2 #3 and #4 because more MVPs than anyone plus a Major... What a stupid argument. I'm fine with the list so far (perhaps Gla1ve over Magisk). S1mple is gonna take #1 as he should
2019-01-16 09:34
#72
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Denmark Lil187 
Shit player compared to device
2019-01-15 20:01
Flag and flair check out
2019-01-15 20:04
#121
 | 
Denmark Lil187 
I repeat SHIT player compared to Device
2019-01-15 20:08
It must be hard being this delusional
2019-01-15 20:09
#126
 | 
Denmark Lil187 
I repeat SHIT player compared to Device
2019-01-15 20:09
#147
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United States J_Nasty 
Bandwagon B O T
2019-01-15 20:15
Imagine someone calling a top 6 player in the world shit compared to the number 2 player LUL
2019-01-15 20:15
#287
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Australia CaZeR01 
+99 xD
2019-01-15 23:47
still a better player than device when it comes to playoffs and finals.
2019-01-15 20:32
#242
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Denmark MeToxi 
0.99 ratings in grand finals. NAF is a great player but he is undeniably bad in grand finals compared to the other top players.
2019-01-15 21:43
15 maps against astralis out of 20. everybody sucks against astralis. he still had 2 mvps in the year and did amazing on both finals. even s1mple and nikos stats are lowered greatly compared to their year long stats against astralis. he is undeniably worse against astralis. he doesnt have a choking issue on grand finals(playoffs) like device had in 2014/2015/2016/2017. device occasionally still suffers from this as it was seen on the last epl finals where he was extremely bad on the first 2 maps or in the major they won in atlanta where kjaerbye had carried his ass. hltv.org/stats/players/opponents/team/85.. he has 1.09+ against every team that isnt astralis or mouz. his only truly horrible grand finals performance this year was against mouz. he was sick. which isnt an excuse. but its pretty hard when you consider he suffered from a migraine and tinnitis when he is already deaf in one ear. also the only reason he was worse off from his teammates because he also was bad on nuke a map which liquid dominated mouz. the rest of the series he was pretty on par with his team apart from twistz. lastly, that last tournament on odense he still was better than device throughout the whole tournament and in the finals statistically yet didnt get the mvp. so even when he was going negative in frags he still had 80+ adr against astralis over 4 maps. so yes while he is bad against astralis(who isnt) and mouz. he isnt that mentally bad in grand finals because every good player have their flaws. when nip were dominating in 2013 and 2014 they kept losing to cph wolves/dignitas. nip were still te better team but they had a bad matchup against the danes. which can happen.
2019-01-15 22:26
NAF / Liquid Legends status in choking HAHAHAHA
2019-01-15 22:31
11k id. my dear newfag friend; guess you werent around when the danes and especially device were perennial chokers from 2013 to the end of 2017. lilquid have to choke 3 more years worth of grand finals/playoffs to reach that legendary choke status . fun fact did you know the danes were the first to employ sports psychologists because device was extremely bad after group stages. he was choking against everybody whereas naf destroyed all the top 10 teams aparrt from astralis and mouz. and he still has respectable numbers against them whereas device was going 1.20+ on group stages and 0.80 in playoffs against any team. lol. did you also know that naf destroyed astralis in his very first big event grand final? food for thought.
2019-01-15 22:45
#288
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Australia CaZeR01 
+1 well said
2019-01-15 23:49
#134
shox | 
Romania NuKe_001 
ecovice
2019-01-15 20:10
+1
2019-01-15 22:04
Twistzz would rekt Astralis alone again and again :) No need for NAFly ;)
2019-01-15 20:17
#338
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Slovakia sanjuro 
device is mediocre, if not his team he wouldn't be probably in top20
2019-01-16 07:59
Electronic 0 mvp > Magisk(1 major , 1 mvp) , NAF (1mvp) SO EZ S1mple top1
2019-01-15 20:05
Best NA player of all time!
2019-01-15 20:09
God NAF don't mind the rankings as they are just stat readers the pros list is much different, I expect you and Twistzz to be on top this year. NAF Twistzz Stewie Nitro EliGE Twistzz EliGE Stewie Nitro NAF
2019-01-15 20:20
yeeeeee
2019-01-15 20:53
#254
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United Kingdom Dogehino 
EZ expected. Next up Dupreeh
2019-01-15 22:11
YEAH GODJ > NAF
2019-01-16 05:54
#2
 | 
Belgium i_am_alexa 
told it.
2019-01-15 20:00
#84
 | 
World shekidem 
2nd
2019-01-15 20:02
#146
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Estonia teremartin 
ez i knew
2019-01-15 20:15
#3
oskarJ | 
Czech Republic y0fl0w 
ez
2019-01-15 20:00
#4
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Portugal trNN$ 
GODHARDYZZZ
2019-01-15 20:00
#58
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Portugal trNN$ 
#4 not that bad
2019-01-15 20:01
#5
 | 
Brazil rodrigo0079 
expected, actually
2019-01-15 20:00
#6
 | 
Germany Sabba1 
expected
2019-01-15 20:00
#7
Magisk | 
Denmark Riiseren 
ez
2019-01-15 20:00
#8
 | 
Brazil cadik 
kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
2019-01-15 20:00
#9
 | 
United States Dr1GeR 
Best player NA
2019-01-15 20:01
#10
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France Teellioz 
1 S1mple 2 NiKo 3 Dupreeh 4 NAF 5 electronic ... 1908 device
2019-01-15 20:03
Lol u know u are posting under info that NAF is 6th? Btw it's gonna be: 1# S1mple 2# Device 3# Niko/Dupreeh 4# Dupreeh/Niko 5# Electronic Mark my words :) GL HF :)
2019-01-15 20:27
#187
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Spain Dicraftio 
Im doubting about niko 2nd or 3rd because Niko's stadistics are better than device's, so niko is at least 3rd
2019-01-15 20:39
#270
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France Teellioz 
yeah I do know ty
2019-01-15 22:55
#289
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Australia CaZeR01 
3# dupreeh 4# niko
2019-01-15 23:52
Probobly gonna be that way. Niko was great but Astralis last year was over the top. You agree with the rest of my top 5?
2019-01-16 18:38
#376
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Australia CaZeR01 
Yea Edit: dupreeh #5 lmfao
2019-01-16 22:23
I'm surprised tbh. Was sure he gonna be higher. Electronic 4th :D
2019-01-17 20:39
5-Niko 4-Eletronic 3-Dupree 2-fer 1-device
2019-01-15 20:30
fer ? wtf XD
2019-01-15 20:34
Fer what the hell are you on
2019-01-15 21:22
masterbaiter.
2019-01-15 21:23
+1
2019-01-15 21:23
#194
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Denmark RUZUR 
Personally I think Dev will end up a bit higher than that. I don't want to assume anything, but to me it seems almost like you don't care for Device and are letting that cloud your judgement in your analysis of the list...
2019-01-15 20:45
#290
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Australia CaZeR01 
Very bold prediction id say
2019-01-15 23:53
tf
2019-01-15 20:00
very nice
2019-01-15 20:00
#14
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Yugoslavia ToxiCat 
Ez
2019-01-15 20:00
#15
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Pakistan WaldhuterHanz 
yikes
2019-01-15 20:00
shit
2019-01-15 20:00
EZ FOR ELECTRONIC X2
2019-01-15 20:00
#18
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Denmark JustYes 
deserved
2019-01-15 20:00
#19
 | 
Australia liazz 
1 point
2019-01-15 20:00
nice
2019-01-15 20:00
#21
 | 
Poland KINGoFBETs 
how
2019-01-15 20:00
kk
2019-01-15 20:00
#23
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Israel tplaysmhg 
Hello Israel
2019-01-15 20:00
#24
s1mple | 
Russia h3x0r 
expected
2019-01-15 20:00
good job
2019-01-15 20:00
#27
s1mple | 
CIS avens1s 
ez
2019-01-15 20:00
EXPECTED
2019-01-15 20:00
#29
 | 
Greece SZN_Darth_A 
k
2019-01-15 20:00
#31
 | 
Switzerland Figurato 
#1 s1mple #2 dev1ce
2019-01-15 20:00
#32
 | 
Russia Hidd3N_ 
Expected
2019-01-15 20:00
Expected
2019-01-15 20:00
#34
fnx | 
Finland HekeH 
lul
2019-01-15 20:00
First
2019-01-15 20:00
#56
oskarJ | 
Czech Republic y0fl0w 
LUL
2019-01-15 20:00
#71
 | 
Germany Sabba1 
lmao
2019-01-15 20:01
Not even an nt
2019-01-15 20:16
not even t
2019-01-15 20:59
#268
BOOBIE | 
United States lybrel 
nice internet
2019-01-15 22:46
As first as Automatic is best player in 2018.
2019-01-16 04:36
Knew it
2019-01-15 20:00
#37
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Sweden La1rea 
XPECTED
2019-01-15 20:00
#38
 | 
Turkey Aybars1 
ez expected
2019-01-15 20:00
#39
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Turkey keremzen 
expected
2019-01-15 20:00
#40
 | 
Brazil assisz 
good one
2019-01-15 20:00
#42
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Denmark Mikaow 
Expected and deserved
2019-01-15 20:00
#43
 | 
Russia Navixddavi 
Expected
2019-01-15 20:00
#44
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Portugal queniese 
NAF-WHO ?
2019-01-15 20:00
#45
 | 
Portugal baki_ 
LUL
2019-01-15 20:00
#46
NiKo | 
Kazakhstan twistie 
electronic my man <33
2019-01-15 20:00
#48
 | 
Poland Stilk_PL 
LuL
2019-01-15 20:00
#50
 | 
Brazil firMONSTER 
aaaaa
2019-01-15 20:00
#51
Xyp9x | 
Denmark ozron 
ez
2019-01-15 20:00
Deserved
2019-01-15 20:00
deserved
2019-01-15 20:00
Ez top5 for vistrelmuzchini!
2019-01-15 20:00
Naf>elec and dupreeh
2019-01-15 20:00
#109
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CIS Geograt 
0/8
2019-01-15 20:06
While there is a debate for him being better than elec, I do believe that Dupreeh is a better player than NAF. All of them are better than ecovice
2019-01-15 20:17
+1
2019-01-15 23:11
+1
2019-01-16 04:43
LUL
2019-01-15 20:00
EXPECTED
2019-01-15 20:01
#60
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Sweden Liquid_fan 
expected
2019-01-15 20:01
Deserved
2019-01-15 20:01
#62
 | 
Hungary MaXi ^_^ 
expected
2019-01-15 20:01
#63
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World bigb1rd 
ABSOLUTELY EXPECTED THIS POSITION FOR NAF, WHAT A CAPSLOCK BEAST HE IS
2019-01-15 20:01
#64
s1mple | 
Ukraine d3adLY 
electronic 5 WOW
2019-01-15 20:01
#65
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El Salvador mikj 
Deserved, best wishes !
2019-01-15 20:01
super expected
2019-01-15 20:01
#67
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Latvia de_coffy88 
nice.elic top5 eZ :D
2019-01-15 20:01
S1mple said himself He will be top 1 And top 5 is S1mple , device , NiKo , electronic , dupreeh
2019-01-15 20:01
#69
Netherlands Bob2 
yes
2019-01-15 20:01
#70
rain | 
Norway Alexed 
Gay
2019-01-15 20:01
Expected
2019-01-15 20:01
Best Canadian Player Ever
2019-01-15 20:01
#91
AdreN | 
Russia Sonfire 
Rip shroud
2019-01-15 20:03
#75
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United States xSleader 
Pog
2019-01-15 20:01
#76
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France unnn 
expected and deserved
2019-01-15 20:01
god
2019-01-15 20:01
#5 Electronic #4 Dupreeh #3 NiKo #2 Dev1ce #1 S1mple
2019-01-15 20:01
#83
NiKo | 
France LauraS 
100%
2019-01-15 20:02
seems legit
2019-01-15 20:02
#89
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Turkey YavuzMeister 
yes
2019-01-15 20:02
+1
2019-01-15 20:08
Looks about right although I would still say device has a good chance to get #1 over s1mple. Maybe I'm a little bit biased with giving dupreeh a higher position, but I stand by my prediction for #1 #5 Electronic #4 NiKo #3 Dupreeh #2 S1mple #1 Dev1ce You have to look at the destruction of **EVERY SINGLE TEAM** that Astralis showed against ALL tier 1 teams in the whole of 2018, right now they are *that team* that people are tired of seeing constantly winning and winning and winning over and over. And device is unquestionably the best player of Astralis. Considering the whole of 2018 - device was the best player on the undisputed best team that is pretty much unstoppable at this point in time. While s1mple had some amazing accomplishments, you have to look at how dominant they've been and the best player in that team. It would make more sense for device to be at #1. (yeah, I might be a fanboy but I've been a fanboy since they have been dignitas, I'm not riding any bandwagon)
2019-01-15 21:09
#244
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Denmark MeToxi 
This is an individual ranking and s1mple as an individual has been by far the most dominant player of 2018. Device will still get 2nd though, the best of his career, since he was the best player on astralis as an individual in 2018 and astralis dominated everyone.
2019-01-15 21:50
HLTV strongly weighs team achievement ahead of stats. Just look at KennyS not earning #1 in 2014 despite being well beyond everyone at the time. It was all because of his lack of team accomplishments.
2019-01-16 03:24
#355
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Denmark MeToxi 
It is not the team achievements that matter but rather the fact that the player is performing well in semi/grand finals. Just because they happen to win events it doesn't mean that that's the reason. Isn't a player who performs well in a BO5 grand final in theory better than a player who performs well in a group stage BO1 match?
2019-01-16 12:11
You should probably go look at my reference then. He had less achievements but better performance than basically everyone that year (Kenny). You should also potentially read Glaive's statement about looking better when you win a lot and have a good team. Your logic is in no way faulty, so we are clear, but there have been a lot of times where HLTV quantified a higher placing due to team achievement over individual performance.
2019-01-16 15:11
#363
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Denmark MeToxi 
That is where you're mistaken though. Regarding the 2014 ranking, I don't remember much from that year and HLTV's stuff is kinda strange(v 1.0 rating) and not complete when researching it so I won't comment on that rn. Gla1ve did say that you look better when you win a lot and have a good team. True, but what does that have to do with team achievements? You're implying that it is ONLY where their team placed during a tournament that influence their ranking. It is absolutely not. It is all about how the player looked during their victory run. Did the performance in the playoffs earn them an EVP or MVP? If yes, then it automatically influences the end of year ranking. Even if they didn't it'd probably still influence the ranking in the end. So it is not the team achievement but rather what it brings. A good player performance is often going to influence the teams placement in that tournament so when you win it, then the players will look better. But does that make it any less relevant in their ranking? No, it does not. The ranking is supposed to highlight the players that looked good during 2018, no matter the team, and it does that in a consistent and acceptable way.
2019-01-16 15:23
First of all, I never said that achievement was the sole contributor, but that HLTV weighs it more strongly than individual achievement. Which is true per their own language in many Top 20 lists they've done. This year is a bit more comprehensive and weighs things more evenly due to rating 2.0, but it's still the truth. It's quantifiable information. Secondly, my point with achievement and teams is directly validated by your examples. Twice this year we have had MVPs who didn't win a tournament, but largely the best will be from the first place finish. But statistically speaking, you're more likely to be given an MVP/EVP nod if your team won the tournament, since you're more likely to have a positive rating. Losing often reduces your rating or sense of impact, even when your team may be less impactful than your individual efforts. That said, I'm not saying it's unfair so much as it is sometimes an imbalance to claim a player isn't the best because they won less titles. That is the result of 9 other players more than 1, and isn't always an indication of your personal capability.
2019-01-16 17:03
#370
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Denmark MeToxi 
I think I need to clarify something first, from how I understand it, this is NOT a ranking of the best players but rather the players who actually performed the best during the entirety of 2018. Now, that might sound confusing but what most people do is for instance to claim someone is better because they have a higher peak performance (Confusing that as the best). What those people are forgetting is that the peak performance matters next to nothing if it is not consistent. Now, I think that I'm thinking in reverse compared to you in the sense that I see what most would call inflated ratings as the reason for a team to be reaching those grand finals and consistently winning them. If a team wins 16 - 3 in a grand final then ofc those ratings will be high, as it is the high ratings that made the team win as dominantly as they did. With the high rating representing correctly the players performance ofc (In theory). My belief is that it is highly exaggerated by the community on how inflated the stats in reality is. This leads me to the next point I'll make. The impact rating is quite comprehensive from my understanding. And if the impact rating of a player like s1mple is low then that is probably why they lost the game. Again, I'm thinking in reverse here. You can't just excuse a teams loss as the reason for a players low impact rating. In reality you should instead see a players low impact ratings as the reason for the team losing. Anyways, that is just my take on it and I'm prone to be wrong, but from my understanding that is also how Petar see's it. If you're interested then this tweet explains how the top 20 is decided: twitter.com/Tgwri1s/status/1084778334159.. Also, this is sorta a reference to the first section: twitter.com/Tgwri1s/status/1084541582592..
2019-01-16 18:02
Without going too far into anything, you're correct on your points. Also, I just want you to know that if it sounded at all like I was being argumentative, I wasn't. Like I said earlier, your reasoning is valid and sound. I agree with you and your points. Also, in fairness, I believe HLTV has done a better job of illustrating why a player may deserve being higher ranked than another in 2018, compared to previous years. Typically, they've had a tough time separating players according to team success rather than individual performance in big matches/against top teams.
2019-01-16 19:17
So to illustrate my point about HLTV being bad about this, just read the intro sentence to this article and then look at the infographic. KennyS DOMINATED 2014 and got literally 6th place because of his team's success: hltv.org/news/13985/top-20-players-of-20..
2019-01-16 17:55
#371
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Denmark MeToxi 
So that is correct. I only started paying attention to these rankings in like 2016 and I don't think we've seen any recent examples of that happening. I stand with my view though on the current rankings. From where I see it they changed and evolved through the years until they found the best solution for an objective and consistent ranking.
2019-01-16 18:27
#303
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Russia infernal1 
+1
2019-01-16 01:23
#328
 | 
Denmark Khronov 
#1 forsaken
2019-01-16 06:13
undeserved
2019-01-15 20:01
#80
 | 
World shekidem 
1st
2019-01-15 20:02
#81
 | 
United Kingdom tomtmh 
who?
2019-01-15 20:02
#82
 | 
Latvia Tibro 
EZ ELECTRONIC
2019-01-15 20:02
#85
AdreN | 
Russia Sonfire 
Canadian pride
2019-01-15 20:02
#86
 | 
Turkey YavuzMeister 
yeeees
2019-01-15 20:02
#87
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Sweden meistr0 
Now: #1 s1mple #2 NiKo #3 Ecovice #4 Dupreeh #5 Electronic
2019-01-15 20:02
hello, its danish site
2019-01-15 20:05
#107
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Sweden meistr0 
I know. Thats the fucked up part, they will probably put Ecovice at #1 I mean, they put Nvid1a on #8 lol
2019-01-15 20:06
#118
2019-01-15 20:08
electronic is over Xyp9x magisk gla1ve and maybe even dupreeh we will see tomorrow and he won just 4 events and have 0 MVP's just overall better stats than these players and the gap between them is way smaller then the gap between S1mple and device
2019-01-15 20:08
#305
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Russia infernal1 
+1
2019-01-16 01:25
#306
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Korea ItsMeNow19 
Lol
2019-01-16 01:28
#329
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Korea ItsMeNow19 
How can u call danish site
2019-01-16 06:36
Naf>electronic
2019-01-15 20:02
#123
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North America ewo 
+1
2019-01-15 20:09
+1
2019-01-15 21:25
0,99 grand final rating of naf should be even top-6 magisk >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> naf main reason why liquid choke, also pure perfomance on final agaist mouz 0.91 rating LUL agaist mouz in finals
2019-01-15 21:37
+1
2019-01-16 01:25
#92
 | 
Ukraine Valarnirmirgt 
wow.. unexpected
2019-01-15 20:03
#93
flusha | 
Turkey Acein 
naf deserve #5
2019-01-15 20:03
#94
s1mple | 
China Alar1c 
deserved
2019-01-15 20:03
Kek
2019-01-15 20:03
#96
s1mple | 
Russia h3x0r 
electronic top5 or top4 POGGERS
2019-01-15 20:04
ez for naf
2019-01-15 20:04
Definitely a major factor in the team's success :)
2019-01-15 20:04
#99
es3tag | 
Germany vipitis 
not revealed on the event?
2019-01-15 20:04
worse consistency when compared to the contenders who finished above him in this ranking and lacklustre grand final performances at Big Events. confirmed dev1ce s2mple :*(
2019-01-15 20:04
:*( is free. i know.
2019-01-15 21:26
#102
 | 
Palestine Baitor69 
Dupreeh > Naf???? Hltv????
2019-01-15 20:04
#110
 | 
Spain mavericko19 
from palestine and fan os Israel? ROFL
2019-01-15 20:06
#115
s1mple | 
Ukraine d3adLY 
dupreeh can be top 3 LOL
2019-01-15 20:07
#125
 | 
Palestine Baitor69 
2019-01-15 20:09
#132
s1mple | 
Ukraine d3adLY 
but he has more trophies
2019-01-15 20:10
dupreeh MVP of EPLS7 Naf MVP of My Little Pony League
2019-01-15 21:04
#269
BOOBIE | 
United States lybrel 
naf single-handedly lost the final vs mousesports
2019-01-15 22:47
Great for NA
2019-01-15 20:05
#105
kennyS | 
Hungary lazzyP 
5- dupreeh 4- electronic 3- device 2- niko 1- s1mple
2019-01-15 20:05
h@!h@h@h@... 5) electronic 4) dupreeh 3) Niko 2) s1mple 1) dev1ce 99,99 %
2019-01-15 20:07
1)S1mple 2)krimz 3)magisk 4)cold 5)naf 6) olof in my <3. #peace
2019-01-15 21:30
#255
kennyS | 
Hungary lazzyP 
I change mine to 1- kennyS 2- simple 3- niko 4- device 5- electronic
2019-01-15 22:11
hahahah ez 4 electronic
2019-01-15 20:06
#111
 | 
Europe trey_ 
SeriousSloth NAF cool
2019-01-15 20:06
#113
 | 
Romania LoganS1 
expected af
2019-01-15 20:07
OIIII BABY BOIS, thats 4 and one is top 10 WOOO. Couldve been 5 in top 20 if nahte made it :(
2019-01-15 20:08
#119
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Europe Shingy 
%9999999999999999999 5.electronic 4.dupreeh 3.NiKo 2.s2mple 1.dev1ce coming cry s2mple fans.
2019-01-15 20:10
Deserved, what a beast.
2019-01-15 20:10
#129
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Brazil wdks 
LUL
2019-01-15 20:10
Incredible player. Totally deserved.
2019-01-15 20:10
NA can sleep easy now, that's the best we're gonna do
2019-01-15 20:10
tarik #1
2019-01-15 23:43
expected
2019-01-15 20:12
Who is this dude ??? Top 10? Maybe a top 100
2019-01-15 20:12
Best NA player of all time. so far. today.
2019-01-15 21:16
MAGISK >dupree naf > magisk
2019-01-15 20:12
nice
2019-01-15 20:13
allu top 1 confirmed
2019-01-15 20:13
NAF 6 electronic top 5 What a joke
2019-01-15 20:14
1-Device 2- S1mple 3- Dupreeh 4- Niko 5- Eletronic
2019-01-15 20:14
0.Adren 1.s1mple 2.Device 3.Niko 4.Dupreeh 5.electronic
2019-01-15 20:14
Device Simple Niko Dupreeh Electronic
2019-01-15 20:17
Where is Adren?
2019-01-15 20:25
forsaken?
2019-01-15 20:31
expected
2019-01-15 20:16
#151
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United States Trump2020KAG 
Hello 4th hello
2019-01-15 20:17
#153
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CIS dypsoman 
Idk, next time choose good photo
2019-01-15 20:17
They put Xyp9x and Magisk lower than they should have been, put Electronic and s1mple in the top 5, so that the fans would not be offended, in order for the device to get # 1 GG
2019-01-15 20:19
#157
Xizt | 
Italy HeSY 
Absolutely deserved for the best NA player (also Tarik is pretty good)
2019-01-15 20:18
DESERVED GOD NAF CANADIAN CS LETS GOOOO
2019-01-15 20:18
expected
2019-01-15 20:19
1. forsaken
2019-01-15 20:19
deserved.
2019-01-15 20:22
deserved
2019-01-15 20:28
wow
2019-01-15 20:28
#169
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Netherlands DikkeNoob 
He has the worst beard I have seen in my whole life.
2019-01-15 20:29
Miss ya xd
2019-01-15 20:30
#171
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Europe Vallon2 
Always love it when he's shown on camera and Twitch chat spams the sloth emote.
2019-01-15 20:30
#172
NiKo | 
Czech Republic Ksfilip 
This god really deserved it. I don't like Liquid but when I see his and Twisttzz's stats and how good they are I feel bad for them seeing them losing so many finals. Btw electronic #5.
2019-01-15 20:30
woooow
2019-01-15 20:30
deserved
2019-01-15 20:33
#183
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Denmark iPlov 
#1 Devve
2019-01-15 20:34
#184
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Brazil hugoalmeida 
overrated
2019-01-15 20:34
Ez predict
2019-01-15 20:37
Best NA player of all time imo.
2019-01-15 20:37
Expected
2019-01-15 20:41
Twistzz > NAF
2019-01-15 20:43
#191
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Argentina Fa7e07 
deserverd ez god SeriousSloth
2019-01-15 20:44
Should have been electronic
2019-01-15 20:44
danish admins will not even help dupreeh, he will be 5th and electronic 4th u will see
2019-01-15 20:58
Bullshit if he does
2019-01-15 21:54
U bullshit if he doesn't
2019-01-16 13:37
#195
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United States FlagMaster 
Deserved
2019-01-15 20:48
#197
s1mple | 
Poland Hell2k 
s1mple top 1 loading
2019-01-15 20:50
#200
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Brazil Collee 
Wouldn't put him above Magisk and gla1ve, but it seems team achievements are almost irrelevant to this ranking. Pretty obvious s1mple will be #1 now
2019-01-15 20:54
#203
AdreN | 
Iran Owaxer 
Deserved
2019-01-15 20:57
#206
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Brazil kanezz 
fuck now electronic is top 5
2019-01-15 21:00
expected and deserved
2019-01-15 21:04
#210
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Turkey CHAMPTZ 
Godnaf
2019-01-15 21:06
#211
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Sweden Akoulad 
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
2019-01-15 21:11
First
2019-01-15 21:11
Naf was good but top 10 hmmm nah man
2019-01-15 21:13
Maybe I'm a little bit biased with giving dupreeh a higher position, but I stand by my prediction for #1 #5 Electronic #4 NiKo/Dupreeh #3 Dupreeh/NiKo #2 S1mple #1 Dev1ce You have to look at the destruction of **EVERY SINGLE TEAM** that Astralis showed against ALL tier 1 teams in the whole of 2018, right now they are *that team* that people are tired of seeing constantly winning and winning and winning over and over. And device is unquestionably the best player of Astralis. Considering the whole of 2018 - device was the best player on the undisputed best team that is pretty much unstoppable at this point in time. While s1mple had some amazing accomplishments, you have to look at how dominant Astralis has been and who the best player is on that team. It would make more sense for device to be at #1, in my honest opinion. (yeah, I might be a fanboy but I've been a fanboy since they have been dignitas, I'm not riding any bandwagon)
2019-01-15 21:13
it is a TOP PLAYERS LIST, not teams s1mple managed to get better stats than dev1ce even with a "worse" team (astralis cheats but ill not take this in consideration here) NaVi wouldnt even be top10 without s1mple, he literally carried his whole team (electronic helped but lets be real) if s1mple is not #1 this top20 is complete bullshit
2019-01-15 21:19
dude thinks Astralis cheats lmao your opinion suuuure means a lot to me, similar to how important flat-earthers are to me.
2019-01-16 02:58
i dont think, i know. niko exposed them nvidia bug is a cheat
2019-01-16 18:43
lmaooooooooo 0/8 m8
2019-01-17 17:54
Shut the fuck up retard
2019-01-15 21:31
That's a very intelligent response thanks for the spam
2019-01-16 02:59
#216
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Argentina xvideos69 
deserved not like coldzero
2019-01-15 21:15
#217
NAF | 
African Union dAnk7 
Deserved for the sloth
2019-01-15 21:16
naf>electr
2019-01-15 21:17
#221
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Denmark xieZ 
overrated
2019-01-15 21:18
Cool as a cucumber!
2019-01-15 21:18
NAF-FLY!
2019-01-15 21:20
#229
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Finland knuckle420 
last top 5 obviously everyone from ence
2019-01-15 21:25
#230
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Europe xSKYY 
this pretty much confirms s1mple #1
2019-01-15 21:25
#232
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Israel JewsWRLD 
gj naf, deserved
2019-01-15 21:25
#234
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Pakistan d1ckweed 
Absolutely deserved.
2019-01-15 21:29
#236
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Chile nachooww 
deserved
2019-01-15 21:30
s1mple > electronic > dupreeh > naf > magisk > ecovice
2019-01-15 21:36
#240
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India fanboybitch 
OMG 6th already HYPE
2019-01-15 21:38
#241
NEO | 
Brazil tegin 
NAF <3
2019-01-15 21:42
#243
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China yry666233 
who?
2019-01-15 21:47
#245
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Croatia Jack Russell 
Only 6 tournaments he wasn't EVP/MVP, one tournament in the red... what a beast
2019-01-15 21:52
no tabsen in top 20? lulz
2019-01-15 21:54
#248
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United States EMD_ 
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAH OMG
2019-01-15 21:55
#249
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Sweden ThorinEk 
Electronic next
2019-01-15 22:02
dupreeh next
2019-01-15 22:57
#251
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Belgium BestGrillx3 
NAF is max 9-11 position in the world top6 to hight
2019-01-15 22:04
#252
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Iceland caverat 
s1mpletronic top 5 ayy
2019-01-15 22:05
TOP DUO!
2019-01-15 23:08
expected af
2019-01-15 22:08
NAF > Electronic
2019-01-15 22:28
Krimz is better
2019-01-15 22:34
#265
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United Kingdom sufyy 
naf is insane
2019-01-15 22:39
#266
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Argentina XaiDN 
5# is electronic or dupreeh
2019-01-15 22:39
1. S1mple 2. device 3. NiKo / electronic 4. electronic / NiKo 5. dupreeh
2019-01-15 22:57
undeserved
2019-01-15 22:57
#274
NAF | 
United States Raptorial 
Deserved
2019-01-15 22:59
#275
 | 
United States ferric 
4 na players is this a new record?
2019-01-15 23:07
#276
jks | 
Poland JCdenton 
So simple, device, dupreeh, electronic, niko left... But what about Cerq? Lower than top 20?
2019-01-15 23:08
Yeah man where is stew
2019-01-16 00:05
#280
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Brazil kaiokenplay 
deserved
2019-01-15 23:29
#281
 | 
Brazil ragemasterBR 
Deserved
2019-01-15 23:30
#283
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Turkey i_am_am 
deserved <3
2019-01-15 23:36
#291
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Russia 3R4FF 
1. Kane 2. Edward 3. Zeus
2019-01-15 23:54
Unexpected, he should be top 20-25 imo
2019-01-16 00:00
#295
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Bulgaria AboveYall 
thank god no one cares about ur opinion then
2019-01-16 00:04
#310
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Latvia im da bes 
stfu
2019-01-16 02:11
flag and flair check out
2019-01-16 01:13
Dupreeh? Alo?
2019-01-16 00:03
#299
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Ukraine den37773 
+rep
2019-01-16 00:43
#300
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Chile strong221 
my guy FeelsGoodMan
2019-01-16 00:53
Canadian = strongest NA/SA player. Ez
2019-01-16 01:16
#307
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Korea ItsMeNow19 
Why goof player always have 1 number on their nickname like s1mple or dev1ce
2019-01-16 01:31
#308
 | 
Europe traqqi 
1. dev1ce 2. s1mple 3. niko 4. dupreeh 5. electronic
2019-01-16 01:35
#309
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Latvia im da bes 
gla1ve and krimz better
2019-01-16 02:10
krimz? top 5? I think not
2019-01-16 03:01
Who was that guy who said they better replace him with n0thing? Lul
2019-01-16 03:04
None of these players made top 20 huehuehuehue Cerq, Stewie, FalleN, and tarik all failed to make top 20 this year.
2019-01-16 03:07
#365
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Turkey Slapdash 
Cerq top 1 2019
2019-01-16 16:36
NAF is sick. Deserved.
2019-01-16 03:39
#320
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Japan Johnny_Br@Vo 
5. Electronic 4. Dupreeh 3. Choko 2. Dev1ce 1. s1mple
2019-01-16 04:08
overrated
2019-01-16 04:40
very good player
2019-01-16 05:23
#325
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Philippines p0k1em0n 
NAF said, HLTV.
2019-01-16 05:27
#333
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Austria gex0r 
DESERVED! Canada on the rise Btw, is he the first NA player to ever be in the Top 6 ? Or Top 10 even?
2019-01-16 07:28
#334
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United States sxg 
I called this a couple years ago, I first said NAF was probably the best player in NA and deserved a good team when he was on renegades, now hes #6 . Always new he was crazy good. People saying hes overrated and shouldn't be above this person, are blind, stats don't lie, Hes crushed everyone in the world except astralis. Liquid #2
2019-01-16 07:34
#383
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Europe zero_hoes 
thats why the concern is naf over magisk
2019-01-17 10:29
#335
Xyp9x | 
Denmark BriTe 
NAF over Magisk..... This is a joke :/
2019-01-16 07:31
wtf
2019-01-16 07:38
#340
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Argentina Nasty_ 
Well deserved, I think he did a great job in both Renegades and Liquid. Gl in 2019
2019-01-16 08:22
#341
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Argentina VerdaguerE 
Deserved
2019-01-16 08:26
#342
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Canada m00semilk 
Great job, Chief Keith!
2019-01-16 08:30
Fucking Oath big ups from Aus. Well deserved and probably should have placed higher to be honest.
2019-01-16 09:13
Truth be told, I miss Nifty on this list. NAF is a very much appreciated addition though. He has really been performing this past year despite all odds. He's been stable and performing at a consistently high level. More Hamberders please.
2019-01-16 09:25
#378
 | 
Europe zero_hoes 
nifty? wtf man 0 achievements in tier 3
2019-01-16 23:17
well obv not his fault considering his performances.
2019-01-17 10:26
#382
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Europe zero_hoes 
too bad i could be in this list but my team is noob
2019-01-17 10:28
yeah, if you compete and performs well enough, no matter what team you're in, there's always a chance.
2019-01-17 16:54
#385
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Europe zero_hoes 
no, thats why xantares tabsen cerq nifty zywoo and other tier 2stars are not here, first you have to.meet the best, then dethrone the best
2019-01-17 16:56
#carepolice
2019-01-16 09:37
Lol NAF over Magisk
2019-01-16 09:57
#352
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Europe snqa 
1.s1mple 2.Dev1ce 3.Niko 4.Elec 5.duprhee
2019-01-16 10:46
NiKo will be 2 and Dev1ce 3
2019-01-16 11:18
#354
 | 
Other delmaszm 
why does he look like a South Park character
2019-01-16 12:09
#356
ton | 
Brazil FavelaJz 
not deserved maybe top 15 20
2019-01-16 12:24
Next dupreeh
2019-01-16 13:27
NAF - OMEGALUL
2019-01-16 13:29
NAF top 50 ..... hltv top 20 is a freaking joke.... 0 sense/0 logic/0 everything
2019-01-16 15:24
#368
s1mple | 
Sweden DiTzZ 
Definitely deserved. Was a beast throughout the whole year! Just look at those EVP awards :o
2019-01-16 17:42
#375
NAF | 
Italy yugeyy 
YESSSS, best NA player and 1st place s1mple not dev1ce (but have same the number 1)
2019-01-16 19:45
#377
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Europe zero_hoes 
highest na top ever yes?
2019-01-16 23:17
#379
FalleN | 
Brazil Feio91 
deserved
2019-01-17 02:53
NAF-FLY > Magisk
2019-01-17 04:10
#387
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France rezpecful 
USA bot top 6 ? what happened to counter struk lol..
2019-01-17 17:55
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