flamie: "AVANGAR's problem was that they were a bit scared to win; all they need is confidence"

We sat down with Egor "flamie" Vasilyev at IEM Katowice after Natus Vincere secured a place in the playoffs, discussing the team's communication and expectations going forward.

The CIS powerhouse Natus Vincere went through the New Legends stage in fairly convincing fashion, with a 3-1 record, losing to their nemesis Liquid and beating G2, Vitality, and AVANGAR.

flamie is hoping they can finally figure out Liquid if they meet them again in the semi-finals

In an interview, flamie commented on the team atmosphere, which he is happy about, and gave props to AVANGAR, who he thinks need more time and confidence to secure deeper tournament runs.

I want to start with your game against Vitality, you played that one very well, 39 kills in the double overtime that you managed to close out in the end. That was still pretty early in the group stage, but how did that game go?

When the score was 14-8 for us, we did some mistakes, we didn't check Shadow and the guy killed us. Two or three rounds later we did the same thing and he killed us again (laughs). Those were some bad mistakes from us which could've cost us the game. But in overtime, we did a comeback from match point two times, one time it was even 3v5 so we had some luck as well. We are happy that we had good communication, we didn't fight after we were leading 14-8 and they came back, the communication was still good. We were trying to win the game and everything went well.

Later on, you played against AVANGAR, a CIS side, kind of up and coming. In the end, they didn't go through to the playoffs, but they had some impressive games, what do you think about them as a team? Where is their ceiling?

I think they are a top15 team, maybe even top10. Their main problem was that they were a bit scared to win, you know? It was their first chance to qualify for the playoffs of a Major. They are good players, all five, a good team, they need to just to find their consistency in big tournaments, they need to alleviate the pressure and they will play great. Because, in practice, or in some less important games, they are playing much better than they played against us and ENCE. I still think they are a good team, and I don't think they need changes, all they need is confidence.

You suffered another defeat to Liquid, 2-0 again, what was that game like? Is there a bit of frustration about not being able to beat them?

To be honest, this game wasn't... We knew it was the group stage still and we wanted to play without any pressure and try to win. On Mirage, we were really close and we could've won it if we didn't do some mistakes, and on Dust2, they won both pistols and the first buy round, when we were CT, they won a 2v5 or 2v4, it was down to some bad communication by us. After that, they took control of the economy and won 16-9, but I guess the game wasn't as one-sided as it was before, in Odense. So I'm happy with how we played, we will look at our mistakes and I hope that next time, if we meet them in the semis perhaps—that is the only way we could play with this bracket—, then I hope we will find the key to beating them.

Overall, it seems like you are kind of happy with how you performed in the first stage? Give me your thoughts on what you managed to do so far.

We didn't have bootcamp because of personal matters, electronic will become a father soon and it could've happened while we were at a bootcamp, so it would be hard to get to Moscow fast. We decided to play online, but we had good preparation. I'm happy with how we played in this tournament, a lot of people thought that we were not in good form after the ICE Challenge and that we would not pass the group stage, but we came and we didn't play with big pressure, we just played our own game. It was hard, but we managed to qualify and I still think we have a good chance here.

Russia Egor 'flamie' Vasilyev
Egor 'flamie' Vasilyev
Age:
22
Rating 1.0:
1.05
Maps played:
1199
KPR:
0.72
DPR:
0.67
APR:
0.14
agree!
2019-02-25 16:15
#4
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Austria shaakeh 
Avangar is good
2019-02-25 16:17
expected
2019-02-25 16:17
no, their problem was shit seeding.
2019-02-25 16:17
#13
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Bulgaria zikinu 
What are you on about? This wad the best seeding ever seen in a major.
2019-02-25 16:22
Name checks out.
2019-02-25 16:33
name doesnt check out
2019-02-25 16:35
Name checks out.
2019-02-25 16:35
Listen here buddy. Don't make claims you cannot back up. Proof is not something to be taken lightly, the law of evidence regulates the process of proof. The rule of civil and criminal evidence, in conjunction with the rules of procedure, establish the frame work for the process of proof and the conduct of litigation, so that a person claiming something will know what the burden of proof his claims require in order to succeed. It reflects a powerful tool in bringing the guilty to justice, whilst allowing the innocent to go free. In some cases the rules of evidence may actually prevent the truth from being discovered in the wider public interest however we know that is not the case here. Moreover the general rule is that evidence of the defendant's character and previous convictions will not be admitted at trial (see Art 138 of cr.p.c and Rule-145 of DER). As we shall see a number of rules relating to admissibility and use of evidence are directed towards minimizing the risk of wrongful convictions. And the main risks of error stem largely from the admission of unreliable or prejudicial evidence. Thus this concept of free proof may allow people on twitter to portray unreliable or prejudicial evidence, which lead to a hasty conclusion. The burden on proof is on your side while you make these claims. When a dispute, whether relating to a civil or criminal matter, reaches the court there will always be a number of issues which one party will have to prove in order to persuade the court to find in his or her favour. The law must ensure certain guidelines are set out in order to ensure that evidence presented to the court can be regarded as trustworthy. If you cannot do that punishment is more often than not swift in nature. You can also not count on the party to let you walk off freely as being an unreliable witness or claimant may result in legal and perhaps lethal repercussions out of court the likes of which you've never seen before for which you cannot claim amnesty or protection if your claim is proven to be unlawful or slander. I as KNG will exercise my right of self deference to the fullest and you will seize to exist on this earth morally, legally and most importantly physically. TL:DR; Prove it or I'll kill you
2019-02-25 16:36
#25
NiKo | 
Europe KillM2K 
+1
2019-02-25 16:45
+1
2019-02-25 22:26
Maybe give reply lessons to KNG. If he wrote that instead of "prove it or i'll kill you" he wouldn't get banned cuz residentsleeper after 2 rows
2019-02-26 08:03
#57
s1mple | 
CIS H4TCHER 
Dude, wtf did you smoke?
2019-02-26 12:53
#68
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Romania Iosif 
You also had 0 proofs în your claim, you shithead. My proof: #9
2019-02-28 18:59
#37
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Kazakhstan k4harman 
YEAH. that's true. top-2,3,4,5 of world. is it normal?
2019-02-25 17:37
#41
AdreN | 
Kazakhstan Aiomie 
That is OK, they still had chance to win, AVG is totally capable of winning against almost everyone. Psychologically though they need to mature.
2019-02-25 19:15
#30
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Hungary HunsOrdkazakh 
Avangar very nice time
2019-02-25 17:04
#2
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Serbia Faze_Rise_2019 
nice to see flamie performing again
2019-02-25 16:16
#3
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Hungary mEZENCEphalon 
ns
2019-02-25 16:16
#5
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Other Phinks 
EGOR playing good this major. Keep it up plz
2019-02-25 16:17
god flamie
2019-02-25 16:17
chokers
2019-02-25 16:17
#10
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United States YANGGANG2020 
daddy electronic
2019-02-25 16:20
flaminator
2019-02-25 16:20
#12
river | 
Argentina Tomaas 
Avangay xd
2019-02-25 16:20
Why do you think that they are gays?
2019-02-25 16:23
“electronic will become a father soon” “electronic will become a father soon” “electronic will become a father soon” “electronic will become a father soon” “electronic will become a father soon” “electronic will become a father soon” “electronic will become a father soon” “electronic will become a father soon”
2019-02-25 16:25
career start with 19, end with 20 gg wp electronic
2019-02-26 12:27
#61
s1mple | 
India KNOX23 
Electronic's son will be named shortcircuit lmao idk about daughter
2019-02-26 16:37
"In practice, or in some less important games, AVANGAR are playing much better than they played against us and ENCE" SO AVANGAR WAS THROW IN MAJOR?
2019-02-25 16:25
matchfixing confirmed
2019-02-25 17:25
#36
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El Salvador OMEGALUL_xd 
+1
2019-02-25 17:34
#55
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Finland DespeQ 
No, they just can't handle the pressure.
2019-02-26 09:19
Oh yes har har I don’t fucking want to go to the playoffs, i’m afraid to win!! -tony stark crew
2019-02-25 16:30
#18
Katie | 
Israel uffiez 
AVANGAR_TOP_1_SOON
2019-02-25 16:31
flamie to avangar coming soon
2019-02-25 16:37
#24
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Denmark Experative 
inb4 get destroyed so hard by Liquid again
2019-02-25 16:42
12-16 so hard big destroi
2019-02-25 17:01
#40
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Denmark Experative 
they cant win against liquid in bo3 . and in group stage it was pretty easy . if u didnt watch then dont comment prodka
2019-02-25 18:00
A) I wouldn't call a 16-14 loss and a 16-9 loss Navi getting destroyed by Liquid B) He's Russian
2019-02-25 20:56
Avangar played well against Liquid Just the opponents got strong unlucko, nt
2019-02-25 16:51
True
2019-02-25 16:55
Avanwho?
2019-02-25 16:56
#31
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Hungary HunsOrdkazakh 
Avangar litle astralis
2019-02-25 17:05
noobs
2019-02-25 17:11
#34
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Brazil cadik 
“electronic will become a father soon” expected from ruski
2019-02-25 17:28
why does having children have to hinder someone’s career? Footballers have kids when they’re too young all the time but most still maintain professional standards
2019-02-25 17:31
It's not like they neglected practice, they decided as a team to give him the time and practiced online.
2019-02-25 20:58
Problem of Avangar was EZ4ENCE
2019-02-25 17:40
#48
Zeus | 
Russia Mickeeey 
=D
2019-02-26 02:00
ezencezenczence
2019-02-26 07:31
hope he can get back to flamieNATOR
2019-02-25 17:55
Avangar probably one of the teams to have an eye on this year. One of the most promising teams from CIS Region
2019-02-25 19:41
Indeed. But i expect that NaVi buys out Jame & qikert unless they win this major, which is not very likely, although not entirely impossible. If NaVi doesn't win, not to lose s1mple, they will have to find replacement for old duo. I don't see any other players young and ready to play consistently on high level, maybe except for smdy
2019-02-25 22:15
Agree with you. Also with Jame s1mple can lay down the awp if he is not feeling it. Also Jame is a decent rifler. qikert could take over as IGL, but it will be hard work for him keeping s1mple and electronic under control or get them back on the line, when he unleashed them. He's very young, I really hope that doesn't put to much pressure on him
2019-02-25 22:17
#49
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Philippines p0k1em0n 
They need a very experienced igl to handle s1mpletronic.
2019-02-26 02:51
I would rather expect Jame to take over as igl as he is in Avangar. qikert rather take place of Edward as a support player... or maybe take some roles from flamie
2019-02-27 08:57
#52
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Ukraine Najara 
Avangar, Spirit, Winstrike, Vega they are all CIS lowskill trash teams Only disband will help them
2019-02-26 08:26
pro100?
2019-02-26 08:28
#54
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Ukraine Najara 
hahah pro100 not even tier3
2019-02-26 09:15
typical navi fangirl xaxa
2019-02-28 11:56
avangar be like: wow thanks im cured
2019-02-26 12:55
#59
Finland teco 
confidENCE ;)
2019-02-26 13:09
said the player who gets tilt easiest.
2019-02-26 15:51
j6me
2019-02-28 05:49
Agree..
2019-02-28 23:06
FLAMIE: "AVANGAR'S PROBLEM WAS THAT THEY WERE A BIT SCARED TO WIN; ALL THEY NEED IS CONFIDENCE" I THINK YYOU AND YOUR TEAM HAVE THE SAME PROBLEM,,,LOOK INSIDE HAHAHHAHAH
2019-03-02 19:48
#71
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Finland JOP3 
hahhahaha 2-1 Ence vs Navi. Who is scared?
2019-03-03 13:10
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