Cloud9 eye suNny as potential new fifth player

Cloud9 have expressed an interest in mousesports star Miikka "suNny" Kemppi, HLTV.org has learned.

The 24-year-old is high on the list of priorities of the North American squad as they look for a new fifth player after deciding to end Jordan "Zellsis" Montemurro's trial.

HLTV.org knows that the two organisations have had exploratory talks regarding a potential transfer but an agreement has yet to be reached.

suNny is on Cloud9's shortlist

suNny is one of the three players that mousesports currently have in their active line-up after the organisation benched Martin "STYKO" Styk and Chris "chrisJ" de Jong in the wake of a disappointing run at the Europe Minor.

Formerly of PENTA, suNny joined mousesports in August 2017 as a replacement for Christian "loWel" Garcia Antoran. He was named the 16th best player of the world in 2018 after an impressive year in which the team won StarSeries Season 4, the V4 Future Sports Festival and ESL One New York.

United States Jordan 'Zellsis' Montemurro
Jordan 'Zellsis' Montemurro
Age:
21
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.05
Maps played:
423
KPR:
0.72
DPR:
0.68
APR:
0.15
Finland Miikka 'suNny' Kemppi
Miikka 'suNny' Kemppi
Age:
24
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
1.08
Maps played:
1016
KPR:
0.76
DPR:
0.69
APR:
0.15
Slovakia Martin 'STYKO' Styk
Martin 'STYKO' Styk
Age:
23
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.98
Maps played:
939
KPR:
0.66
DPR:
0.66
APR:
0.14
Netherlands Chris 'chrisJ' de Jong
Chris 'chrisJ' de Jong
Age:
28
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.04
Maps played:
1328
KPR:
0.70
DPR:
0.66
APR:
0.11
Spain Christian 'loWel' Garcia Antoran
Christian 'loWel' Garcia Antoran
Age:
22
Rating 1.0:
1.07
Maps played:
719
KPR:
0.72
DPR:
0.65
APR:
0.14
no sunny no, dont waste your time
2019-03-05 01:49
#30
suNny | 
United States VAZ1R 
Fuck
2019-03-05 01:51
Clown9 going to keep wasting disbanded talent, first they took Flusha and Golden and Fnatic, kioshima from whatever french cs is. Are they ever going to get a roster that isn't just leftovers of better teams
2019-03-05 01:56
is this rip for mouz?
2019-03-05 01:59
Pretty much, they have no real talent they can pull into their team without some degree of risk. Even if they do add good players I doubt it will work nearly as well as this previous moue lineup. Think of it this way, Mouse has been around since the beginning of the cs go scene and this is their only massively successful lineup to perform well for their organization. I predict it will be their last, the players that were benched STYKO and ChrisJ have been around for a while now and only really performed well on this mouse lineup, same-thing with most of the other players on the team. What other top 5 team has Sunny, Chrisj, Styko or oskar been on HR excluded
2019-03-05 02:02
#201
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World locky0000 
sunny > zellsis
2019-03-05 03:59
no shit sherlock
2019-03-05 04:12
#206
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World locky0000 
hmm?
2019-03-05 04:14
#276
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Austria shaakeh 
king
2019-03-05 07:02
You must be < 12 years old if you didn't get it.
2019-03-05 06:43
Nice bait
2019-03-06 10:05
I still belive he won't take it. Hopefully.
2019-03-05 06:54
I doubt it as well, any time some speculative news about NA organizations is revealed through social media HLTV tends to write an article pretending its actual news
2019-03-05 07:43
#367
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Ireland TGC_ 
Haven't seen this from RBM/D2us etc, and HLTV arnt really know for posting speculative articles...
2019-03-05 09:40
Sunny said on a finnish news chat show thing that he would like to move to na for a few years so idk
2019-03-05 10:03
#400
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Finland _Niilo22_ 
In what show?
2019-03-05 11:40
En muista mut youtubest näin
2019-03-05 11:51
#412
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Finland _Niilo22_ 
Se joku ylen haastis missä pelas samal?
2019-03-05 12:03
Eiku jtn random tubettajii vaa jotka sai mikan niitten videoon ja kyseli va random kysymyksii
2019-03-05 12:09
+1
2019-03-07 17:09
#549
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Finland Jokso123 
You cant post comments her in finnish
2019-03-12 19:08
Oli cyanide siin haastattelemas ja muutenki hyvää contenttia +1 suosittelen
2019-03-13 00:04
I am sure that if they keep sunny they can also get a decent IGL (maybe karrigan and potentially D0cC or some other good player. I mean, why not get D0cC, he is a great upcoming new talent who just like ropz came from FPL to mouz, D0cC can do the same Imo and he is from the Netherlands just like chrisJ (I know he is benched now).
2019-03-05 07:58
I'm sorry are you fucking high, who is docc. Docc is a fucking nonamer, never played on LAN killing tier 500 online players in FPL or normal Face It isn't exactly a proof of upcoming talent. The last thing Mouse sports need is an proven talent when they need a solution that is proven to work. Docc being from the netherlands makes him an even bigger nonamer.
2019-03-05 08:01
#344
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Slovakia SLAVak 
weren't ropz, woxic, ISSAA also nonamers before joining Top 20 teams?
2019-03-05 08:55
#526
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Europe nikosunny 
+1
2019-03-07 17:14
#345
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Netherlands xDtrololo 
Na fucking gimp talking about nl with their average iq of a chimpansee . U guys are so bad at the game its just theres so many of these chimp iq that everyone who is above average is good in na . So you all think ur good , but if you look closely the lackluster tactics and dumb plays na players make lullllll . Dumb as a fking shoe
2019-03-05 08:58
#385
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Indonesia Astranesia 
Yo man chill up
2019-03-05 10:25
#406
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Germany beerbear 
xD
2019-03-05 11:57
NA 1 major NL...?
2019-03-05 15:05
#453
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Netherlands xDtrololo 
Nazi has anything to say ?
2019-03-05 16:24
Na C's is trash do you even read my username
2019-03-05 17:44
Execute me? How could I like NA players when my name is Clown9SilverOne I hate NA fangays but you need to chill, frozen is just as shit as any other tier 60 Na esea advanced player
2019-03-05 18:15
#555
Boombl4 | 
Poland RoDaK 
Netherlands cs btw omegalul
2019-03-15 15:47
Bro go check his communication skills, game sens, no character...i was watching pasha streams lately and this guy doc will never be a pro player...no way
2019-03-05 09:15
#365
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Czech Republic Jacksson 
+1
2019-03-05 09:27
#407
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Finland sevekoo 
Actually he did play on a LAN with scream and other players, he has also stood in for defusekids and i really think this guy can be a pro player one day.
2019-03-05 11:58
International lan?
2019-03-05 18:15
#475
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Finland sevekoo 
Yes?
2019-03-05 19:40
Tier 3??? Even???
2019-03-05 20:34
#479
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Finland sevekoo 
Still international..
2019-03-05 20:35
Don't care still shit player???
2019-03-05 20:41
#409
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Finland sevekoo 
And they won grayhound 2-0 with scream and the boys. He was the best player in his team at that game and they played a 14-16 map against tyloo as well.
2019-03-05 12:01
#429
Kush | 
Netherlands protiny 
Get your facts straigth before you try to talk about something you think you know anything about. First off: he has played on LAN and he played against other pros there (ScreaM, Krystal etc.) and he pretty much rekt everyone there. Second off: the exact fucking thing happened with ropz, ISSA, woxic, Zywoo, Espiranto etc. And s0m can also be seen as this type of player and he just rekt teams with brax.
2019-03-05 13:29
Playing tier4 events against nonamers and washed up one trick ponies is not exactly the same as playing the Lans that he would play with mousesports.
2019-03-05 18:18
#486
allu | 
United Kingdom LiLAJ 
You must really hate cloud9 geez what did they do to you?
2019-03-05 21:09
haha if cloud9 wants Igl go for Yzn/Yacine LULW
2019-03-05 12:35
#416
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France LanaRhoades 
Ok
2019-03-05 12:59
#518
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United States Aj2k 
0 iq
2019-03-07 05:00
#360
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Denmark FrodoDaKing 
you got 0 iq hahahaha, sunny is not dibanded, he is still in the active rooster, you are the dumbest person i have ever seen on hltv xD
2019-03-05 09:23
And he is not trolling!
2019-03-05 13:11
#425
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Denmark FrodoDaKing 
no, he actually means it, thats the funny part about it all xD
2019-03-05 13:17
Clown9 fan Savage and brutally destroyed.
2019-03-05 18:33
If sunny leaves the rosters core will be incomplete. Their lineup is falling apart and their results have dipped drastically by letting sunny have an opportunity to leave mousesports they're throwing away talent
2019-03-05 18:32
#377
nex | 
Germany Der_Pabst 
they should make a german team with krystal LuL
2019-03-05 09:55
#396
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Other WorldIsAFuck 
Well chrisj basically only played on mouz so that's not really true
2019-03-05 11:24
Yet did he ever play well enough to make it a top 10 team outside of their previous 2018 lineup???
2019-03-05 18:26
#493
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Denmark FrodoDaKing 
get your fact straight before you start a debat, half of what you write is true, and the other half, i would not call it lie, more like made up, like a story, because it sounds like you live in a fairytale xD
2019-03-05 22:38
Sorry I don't respond to salty NA fake flaggers, but either way mousesports never won an event before they had this lineup
2019-03-05 22:58
Wasting talent? No one wanted kioshima or flusha and golden is new as fuck to the scene and got sick. What talent was wasted? PS stop fakeflagging because the only way your English is so garbage is either you are 10 or not native.
2019-03-05 02:12
hes a troll look at his name
2019-03-05 02:59
Not fake flagging in love in OC county and typed these comments on my phone the only reason I can't spell because unlike most teenagers I don't really use my phone as much
2019-03-05 04:54
#233
AZK | 
United States Dood 
not using your phone much really is not an excuse for not knowing how to spell...
2019-03-05 05:30
Well it is if your phone set to one language it autocorrects english wrong somtimes. Happens to me.
2019-03-05 06:20
I keep mashing my big fingers on word suggestions when I'm typing thats why it says love instead of live.
2019-03-05 07:46
#349
AZK | 
United States Dood 
okay yeah that's fair
2019-03-05 09:00
#252
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India volt_vipin 
what ? lol . what a lame excuse XD
2019-03-05 06:20
"only reason I can't spell because unlike most teenagers I don't really use my phone as much" LOL wtf is that excuse
2019-03-05 06:36
I cant type as well as on a phone, as I could if I was using a keyboard and mouse.
2019-03-05 07:45
They scooped flusha and golden after fnatic decided for some dumbass reasonto cut their best player and mess up their top 5 lineup, so clown9 took the thrown away talent, when kioshima was kicked from envy they took kioshima the only good player. When automatic left TSM cloud9 picked him up, when optic gaming screwed up their roster they picked up tarik and rush
2019-03-05 05:05
#512
rah | 
United Kingdom rah(-_-) 
So you would agree cloud9 are doing good business?
2019-03-06 19:39
For themselves, definitely not for their players I'm not trying to criticize c9 but I'm not trying to love on them either
2019-03-06 21:05
#296
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Israel wetz 
Biggest +1 of my life
2019-03-05 07:40
c9 pay well sunny knows
2019-03-05 02:18
Flusha and golden and fnatic???? Who is fnatic? Isn't fnatic an org? Fix ur English
2019-03-05 04:30
Fake flagger 9000 detected.
2019-03-05 07:47
#348
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Bulgaria 16|14 
How is he a fakeflagger?
2019-03-05 09:00
#386
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Indonesia Astranesia 
?? do u know what flag is that?
2019-03-05 10:27
Malyasia flag, NA fan???
2019-03-05 18:24
its my country's flag. is there a problem? dumbass
2019-03-13 04:55
#554
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Indonesia Astranesia 
nice comment its like 8 days ago bitch
2019-03-13 23:24
and.... ur point?
2019-03-23 03:41
#224
Xyp9x | 
United States Kruppe 
Except that kio, tim, and sunny could be a decent trio with golden, compared to kio, tim, flusha.
2019-03-05 04:58
Flusha is way better than everyone of the current C9 players,
2019-03-05 07:47
Not anymore bruh, not anymore. Besides: flusha decided to leave c9 to get some things fixed in his real life. His mom just passed away, he didnt have the motivation anymore (thats been going on for a while now.) So for a motivated flusha i would say yes, he is probably better then the rest of c9. But for the nowadays flusha, hell no.
2019-03-05 08:05
He hard carried them online and on LAN maybe not now but he will always be more talented than any of the other cloud9 players
2019-03-05 18:23
tim literally topped major at 1.19 rating
2019-03-05 09:12
And lost to choke clan And got 16-0d wouldn't brag about the major if I were you Clown9 haven't won any b03s against top 5 teams for a while now. They're only real results are b01 at blast pro series
2019-03-05 18:22
??? they 2-0ed faze and big at esl invitational? Neither top 5 but still not bad teams. Brag about major?? Are you dense i literally said autimatic performed well who said anything about c9? Even better they got 16-0ed and autimatic still came 11th in overall rating. Tell me again how fliusha is better than everyone on c9.
2019-03-05 22:15
16-0 means no one performs well?? Automatic played with the awp and flusha was Igl so it would make sense his stats are somewhat worse
2019-03-05 22:56
"tim" delusional autimatic fanboy flusha topped the major while having to lead, support and losing his mother autimatic had the same rating but is NA device who needs to geg set up
2019-03-06 08:52
#533
Xyp9x | 
United States Kruppe 
Lol. Time will tell.
2019-03-08 13:30
What? no? flusha left Cloud9, we wont be able to compare anything new in the future
2019-03-08 13:53
#368
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Switzerland Alzameister 
You know most international teams started like that? Mouz, faze etc. Just took leftovers and look what they achieved. Also, with sunny thos lineup could be promising
2019-03-05 09:40
Yes but the original faze lineups weren't ever top 1 or top 4, right now mousesports need to retain their pre2019 lineup's standing not develop a top 10 team overtime
2019-03-05 18:21
#535
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Switzerland Alzameister 
The comment was about cloud9, not mousesports
2019-03-08 14:05
#439
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North America ZachS721 
There not lmao. They have a great awper who can also rifle, an igl who has had months to make strats and watch matches, and talented support player, and then ya got kio who is good player, and whoever there 5th is.
2019-03-05 14:05
Astralis 16-0 Clown9
2019-03-05 17:42
#511
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North America ZachS721 
Astralis also 16-0 MIBR and almost 16-0 NIP. So are they also trash?
2019-03-06 18:19
That was on their map pick, astralis suck on train yet they still beat clown9
2019-03-06 21:14
#520
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North America ZachS721 
It was a bo1, meaning both teams banned 3 maps each before the map was picked. Also we all know it probably would end up on a map like train. C9 isn’t going to let astralis play a map like nuke and astralis is going to ban cache. Also c9 isn’t going to play d2 against them.
2019-03-07 14:05
#501
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Finland tiglaren 
suNny leftover? LUL
2019-03-06 08:23
#155
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Indonesia MeX0NNNN 
lmao
2019-03-05 02:50
fãck
2019-03-05 18:16
#41
YEKINDAR | 
China lxxl 
RIP
2019-03-05 01:52
+100
2019-03-05 01:54
more money in usa .
2019-03-05 01:59
#118
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Brazil Pedrovisck 
RIP Mouz
2019-03-05 02:15
#289
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Denmark fm100 
Though the same
2019-03-05 07:21
I don't understand why they broke mousesports. There were nothing wrong with the team. I don't like how teams makes these hasty decisions in CSGO.
2019-03-05 09:50
They probably agreed if they didn't make the major their two most inconsistent players would get cut
2019-03-05 18:27
#373
M | 
Sweden Unluko 
YES SUNNY
2019-03-05 09:52
I guess if karrigan isnt going to mous this is preferable to them just wasting away on that roster I don't know where they'll find another leader as good as chrisj
2019-03-05 13:21
IASIP edit: it's always sunny in Philadelphia
2019-03-05 01:49
Why sunny RIP C9
2019-03-05 02:21
best show
2019-03-05 02:56
+1
2019-03-05 03:12
best sitcom ever, +1 for good reference
2019-03-05 03:17
Goat comedy show imo +1 for good taste jabroni
2019-03-05 07:54
Sunny is literally the Day man. Ahhhhhhhhh
2019-03-05 14:46
Wtf , i want him to play for ENCE :(
2019-03-05 01:51
#13
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United Kingdom Johal 
Actually has 4 players to play with
2019-03-05 01:50
ENCE needs to consolidate their teamplay not undergo retarded transfers biannually which is how Astralis stays dominant
2019-03-05 02:11
#192
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Argentina [Darkaren] 
Ence doesn't have enough firepower, if you get sunny you have more of a chance, and ofc sergej is probably only getting better as a player. I think that it wouldn't be a bad move for Sunny nor for ENCE. But it could also go horribly wrong and the team just doesn't do shit because of chemistry.
2019-03-05 03:34
#203
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World locky0000 
doesnt have enough firepower LOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLOLOLOLOLOL youre one of those ppl who think that if you took the player with the greatest k/d on 5 different teams it would make a number one team
2019-03-05 04:08
I mean he’s not wrong
2019-03-05 04:27
yeah he's wrong. astralis has never had more firepower than mibr or faze but somehow it doesnt matter. perhaps its cause they focus on other things? ence didnt need more firepower to beat navi or liquid or or avangar or g2 or big thats 5 teams in the top20. maybe liquid need more firepower?
2019-03-05 04:34
#371
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Ireland TGC_ 
Ence didn't eat BIG, BIG beat themselves, they threw train, they were like 12-8, have a 5v2 and then all pushed smokes with the bomb planted, reset themselves instead of ence,and then kept team flashing and shit for the rest of the game
2019-03-05 09:47
no, ence beat big. couldn't find a big v big result at the major but let me know if you find it hltv.org/matches/2331063/ence-vs-big-iem..
2019-03-05 14:12
#548
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United States xxpowmanxx 
Big didnt lose because how well ence did, ence did ok. Big had no coach and they just swapped a player. they performed very poorly against ence because they just weren't prepared, they lost it themselves, ence was just there to pick up the win.
2019-03-12 15:42
They have. Just about maybe hmm always?
2019-03-05 10:42
+111
2019-03-05 13:01
#230
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Indonesia v1ctin 
Ence has amazing firepower tho.
2019-03-05 05:12
Ence has enough firepower, or at least potential to have in the future. There are still teamplay aspects that need to be developed, and Aerial needs personal assistance as a player. He has some serious unlocked potential.
2019-03-05 05:33
No, bench aerial and bring in sunny and have Sergej try the entry role. Ez top 1 EZ4ENCE
2019-03-05 10:34
#270
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Argentina [Darkaren] 
They don't tho... I mean, they have enough if they want to stay around top 8 forever and never win a tournament. But who the fuck wants that...
2019-03-05 06:45
You retard Liquid, probably most firepower in the scene, look what they have been doing Faze, definitely the number two if not number one, and the team is absolute bollocks Mousesports three heavy fraggers and chrisj who is pretty solid - even after ropz and sunny dropped off in form the team didn't get much worse MIBR with coldzera far and fallen are three incredibly good players. But when fallen loses his mojo anf they bring in NA players to ruin communication, look what happens By far the most important thing on a team is a unified culture. If they want to risk that for bringing on sunny, fine. But unless they integrate him flawlessly it will be a downgrade, so what's the point? They should focus on improving on an individual level and as a team before they go for any rash roster moves Everyone complains about the scene being shit right now, but as soon as a team comes along that is better than the sum of its parts, everyone is bitching that they need a firepower upgrade Shut the fuck up
2019-03-05 13:27
+1 every team has enough firepower to win big lan's...nobody has teamwork and strats and map understanding to beat astralis. thats the only difference. these plebs look at mibr and think they didnt beat astralis because taco was -18 over two maps lol
2019-03-05 14:01
#483
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Argentina [Darkaren] 
??? Astralis has great firepower on top of their strats, mibr didn't win against Astralis not just for TACO being awful but because of their lack of practice, this is their first event. Which also played on their favour as Astralis didn't know much about how the team plays, but even still this is clearly not the best Mibr we'll see this year. Not every team has enough firepower to win big lans, every team has possible upgrades except for Astralis and Liquid that are n1 and n2... Thing is that teams that should have enough firepower to win tournaments are doing pretty bad, mibr, navi, liquid, faze, they are all doing so shit that they let ENCE with like Sergej and allu as their only two players that are good on their own to get into the final of a major. (not faze n mibr exactly but yeah u get the point) For every other team I can see upgrades on firepower that are either going to happen after the next major / on the next few months, or will lose their really good players and keep a decent core of players looking for other stars. Again, there's not enough firepower for EVERY team, astralis is just way too good and that's fair, but for teams like BIG, Ence, Mousesports (old), HellRaisers, Nip, fnatic, north, name whoever, every one of those teams have lacking firepower just on paper. Then you add strats which make teams like BIG or ENCE to actually show as good/decent teams (ofc big with smooya) and you can win games or take series from teams with more firepower but that suck more dick strats wise. The problem here for both ENCE and BIG is that in the end their lack of firepower will come back to bite them one or two events after, yeah they get the one event where they're in the final of a major, then they'll get fucked by Astralis or Liquid or Na'Vi or Mibr in the next one... That's just how it's always been. Also sorry for my message being so fucking long but I have autism and I'm not paying attention so my brain is just going anywhere, I don't blame you for not reading and if anything... My TL;DR: Not every team has enough firepower to win lans, strats help to compensate but given more events their lack of firepower is gonna fuck em, that's why, not now, roster changes are necessary.
2019-03-05 21:03
#482
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Argentina [Darkaren] 
Well, there's no need to be salty kid. Ignoring your autism most of your points are retarded. FaZe is playing like shit, mibr looks better than ence, same as both liquid and na'vi, mousesports got a hit when both ropz and sunny dropped their level and they had to do roster changes because they sucked dick at the minor. The problem here is that you're basing the entire scene out of one tournament only, next tournament ENCE is gonna get raped in the ass by either NRG or mibr and then people will maybe shut the fuck up a little and realize that they actually lack in firepower. They need an upgrade, not right now, but after they play 3 or 4 more events a crack will show, this is their first actually big tournament and they got through to the final just to get ass fucked by Astralis, which should've happened in quarters, tbh, liquid just choked, but what else can you expect :). With all of that being said, don't tell me to shut the fuck up you absolute retard, I get that this must be your 8th hltv account for how retarded of an ape you are and how hard it is for your small as fuck brain to actually form a sentence without clearly showing your lack of confidence and how shit your life is, but be a bit more polite to stress your bullshit points and maybe someone will give a flying fuck about your opinion or at least agree for the sake of not starting an argument you fucking spastic waste of oxygen.
2019-03-05 20:49
You missed the entire point of my post. I'm surprised youre even sentient with points like this ENCE is way better than the sums of their parts. All the teams I listed arent That is not debatable unless you literally have the critical thinking skills of a cabbage Ence should definitely try to continue growing as a team instead of fucking the whole thing up. While maybe they will never win an event, this lineup has not run its course yet And you know what else? Saying they'll get raped in the ass by a top team (not nrg you mongoloid) is not even that bad. Why do they need to risk sending their team down to the level of Uruguay and nonchance just because they want to improve their teams fragging output by 5%? Every team I listed is an example of how this goes wrong The reason I don't have to be polite about my points is that I shouldn't even have to waste my time explaining common sense to some retard, probably the type of kid who is "smart but doesn't try," and has nothing better to do than spout bullshit and get pissed when someone is rude in response to their poorly conceived excuses for thought
2019-03-06 03:43
you mean they would bench sergej lol sergej is atm ences most important player easily
2019-03-05 06:49
#325
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Argentina [Darkaren] 
Maybe worded it poorly, but I meant that Sergej is the player you don't want to move even if he doesn't get good events. As in if you're not making moves you're just expecting him to turn into a top 5 player or something. Otherwise this team just can't win big tournaments really, Astralis won't really give them chances, mibr probably will look only better with time, same with Liquid there, and Na'Vi could've won that Mirage game even if simple had the handicaps.
2019-03-05 08:14
#347
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Europe new_nickname 
Dude if they wanned now to switch a player with sunny, who would it be. Everyone does good their role, and they are feeling good together. For one year ago they was in top200 now in top4. Sunny is fore sure better than every one on that team, but taking him into that team will make them worse. They have already played together for so long. Look what happend to Sk when fnx left. They had players that was individal better than fnx, but they started to lose everything. The best steps forward they should do, is to make them play compatibil, play some more t1 tournaments to make them feel good in the head playing against teams like Astralis.
2019-03-05 09:00
#355
 | 
Argentina [Darkaren] 
I'm not saying to do the change now tho. But I wouldn't keep this same lineup for the end of the year tbh. The cracks will show once ENCE gets to play in more top tier events.
2019-03-05 09:14
As a viewer, I agree that right now its hard to say who should go. I thought it was xseven but man he played pretty good in major. But the team knows better than a viewer. I dont think they're replacing anyone soon.
2019-03-05 10:48
#485
 | 
Argentina [Darkaren] 
Exactly, that's why I think like in the next 2 or 3 events we'll get to see more of the team and maybe get a clear crack on the team, someone who's constantly underperforming and Sunny could replace. After all ENCE is probably looking at their squad and thinking that after this performance they can probably win some other tournaments.
2019-03-05 21:05
#403
 | 
Iceland MorsAlbum 
Aerial would be replaced by sunny, team chemistry and all that shit aside, sunny is strictly a better entry than aerial
2019-03-05 11:49
#484
 | 
Argentina [Darkaren] 
Yeah, we're talking all in paper really. That's why I say not now, I think it's better to wait a few more events from ENCE before talking about roster changes, but I really can't see this roster getting to another big final with the firepower they have unfortunately...
2019-03-05 21:04
#259
 | 
World Nastradoomus 
+999999999999999999999!
2019-03-05 06:32
Stupid indog
2019-03-05 02:20
#157
 | 
Indonesia MeX0NNNN 
calm down oceanian
2019-03-05 02:51
Wtf men
2019-03-05 06:59
#287
 | 
Denmark Xipingu 
Wtf no, dont change the ENCE lineup. That would be the dumbest move ever. It’s fucking great right now.
2019-03-05 07:18
C9 EU
2019-03-05 01:49
First Optic, now C9. Rouge next?
2019-03-05 02:17
#137
 | 
Europe baitpolice 
rogue was eu for like 2 year bro
2019-03-05 02:25
already 2/5 eu liquid next and rip NA scene
2019-03-05 02:30
Then complexity and NRG and NA Scene gets exploded
2019-03-05 08:46
#350
 | 
Bulgaria 16|14 
Then Ghost
2019-03-05 09:03
True
2019-03-13 08:58
Rogue has msl they're for sure going to be full Danish in six months
2019-03-05 02:59
#517
 | 
Europe baitpolice 
they had bulgaria victor lineup forever i remember they were eu before
2019-03-06 21:47
Why sunny out of all players RIP, poor autimatic that really sucks going from all NA to majority EU
2019-03-05 02:35
#168
 | 
United States flyflit 
Why does it suck for autimatic that he's playing with EU players? I doubt any NA player would think it sucks to play with EU players.
2019-03-05 03:10
Language barrier
2019-03-05 03:17
It’s not like they’re picking up guys that don’t speak good English
2019-03-05 04:37
#220
BOOBIE | 
United States lybrel 
are you new? mousesports plays in english
2019-03-05 04:51
I’ve been playing since source I’m not new, I don’t keep track of what teams speak English
2019-03-05 05:12
Dude, mousesports is multi national European team. It's not about keeping track of what language a team speaks in, it's about using your brain. What other language did you think they'd use?
2019-03-05 05:27
+1
2019-03-05 13:49
#544
 | 
United Kingdom daneclaw 
Arabic
2019-03-11 12:46
basically every player on a top 40-50 team, barring half the players on russian teams, furia, and 1 or 2 french players can all speak english very well.
2019-03-05 05:37
#244
BOOBIE | 
United States lybrel 
What language did you think was spoken by a team that has had combos of players from Germany, The Netherlands, Bosnia, Estonia, Czech, Finland, Slovakia, USA, Poland, and Ukraine? Just curious.
2019-03-05 05:48
#267
 | 
Poland OkayAlright 
NA Brain
2019-03-05 06:40
Yeah because I’m supposed to assume every single EU team speaks English my bad
2019-03-05 07:04
#292
Magisk | 
African Union nwaarr 
#244
2019-03-05 07:35
#333
 | 
United Kingdom Hamshanks 
Most people in Europe can speak English or atleast call in it. How do you think mousesports comm'd? How do you think FaZe works? Smooya on BiG? The list goes on. Just requires a bit of thought
2019-03-05 08:38
#492
 | 
United States flyflit 
american ignorance
2019-03-05 22:31
If its multinational, then yes. Its ok learn from mistakes
2019-03-05 09:26
#419
 | 
France LanaRhoades 
Every multinationality team speak english
2019-03-05 13:04
#418
 | 
France LanaRhoades 
Kio's english is perfect , golden's english is decent , sunny's english should be good cuz he played in mouz
2019-03-05 13:02
I mean C9 only really has European options. Nobody from NA has the talent (aside from those already on Liquid or NRG and Wardell from Ghost) to compete at a Tier 1 level
2019-03-05 22:25
Brax? lulw
2019-03-07 17:03
Banned from majors Lulw C9 would never throw away their major spot for a certified baiter like Brax
2019-03-07 17:09
Hiko to c9 POG
2019-03-07 17:14
wtf
2019-03-05 01:49
#6
 | 
Brazil kinzee 
expected
2019-03-05 01:49
#7
 | 
Brazil hugoooo 
If true, R.I.P. mouz
2019-03-05 01:49
E X C U S E ME
2019-03-05 01:49
#9
 | 
Sweden fxzo 
WHAT SO UNEXPECTED
2019-03-05 01:49
#10
 | 
France mdK_ 
wtf
2019-03-05 01:49
Unexpected
2019-03-05 01:50
#12
 | 
United States kearCS 
I'm feeling thank you
2019-03-05 01:50
#14
 | 
Australia Australis 
POGGERS
2019-03-05 01:50
#15
 | 
Poland Kain_aj 
Wtfffff
2019-03-05 01:50
wtf
2019-03-05 01:50
#17
 | 
China maybe_banned 
Cloudy weather, sometimes sunny
2019-03-05 01:50
now we need rain to join this team
2019-03-05 01:57
#93
 | 
Argentina trackssZZZ 
pls
2019-03-05 02:06
#107
 | 
Brunei siapa_kau 
yessss
2019-03-05 02:10
+1 xD
2019-03-05 02:16
#195
 | 
Brazil SecondKS 
Hahahahaha +1
2019-03-05 03:36
#286
 | 
Iceland fatboislim 
No we need nothing
2019-03-05 07:12
#398
XeqtR | 
Hong Kong wqnxy1 
You didnt get the joke =]
2019-03-05 11:30
#402
 | 
Iceland fatboislim 
you didnt get mine :)
2019-03-05 11:46
#405
XeqtR | 
Hong Kong wqnxy1 
hmmm 🤔
2019-03-05 11:53
#420
 | 
France LanaRhoades 
JORDAN "N0THING" GILBERT
2019-03-05 13:04
Dummie
2019-03-05 13:49
#448
XeqtR | 
Hong Kong wqnxy1 
Nt prokda
2019-03-05 15:34
You can do better than this.
2019-03-05 16:52
#457
XeqtR | 
Hong Kong wqnxy1 
Nt prokda
2019-03-05 16:59
Wtf?
2019-03-05 01:50
uhhhhhhh
2019-03-05 01:50
ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?
2019-03-05 01:50
#239
 | 
Israel wetz 
Hehehe
2019-03-05 05:44
#295
 | 
Finland Teukkasd 
rip
2019-03-05 07:40
NOOOOOO
2019-03-05 01:50
Ok wtf is going on
2019-03-05 01:50
Sunny jumping ship before karrigan sinks it
2019-03-05 01:51
Lmfao
2019-03-05 01:53
#60
duke | 
Canada RJBarrett 
LUL
2019-03-05 01:55
good one ;D
2019-03-05 01:59
Lmao
2019-03-05 02:11
#180
 | 
Finland Tusku 
lool
2019-03-05 03:20
#261
 | 
World Nastradoomus 
Hahhhahah
2019-03-05 06:35
#288
 | 
Denmark Xipingu 
LUL :D he knows what is coming
2019-03-05 07:19
LOL
2019-03-05 08:29
#408
 | 
Iceland fatboislim 
i think you're on point sir
2019-03-05 11:58
what the heck
2019-03-05 01:51
#25
 | 
Finland JOP3 
I just wanted to informate: #EZ4ENCE
2019-03-05 01:51
Sunny will be at home with c9 since the sun is above the clouds and sunny is above cloud9
2019-03-05 01:51
Exactly, he's above c9 cause he's too good for them
2019-03-05 02:07
#158
Bewgz | 
Australia g00sey 
WOW YOU GOT THE JOKE DO YOU WANT A GOLD STAR?
2019-03-05 02:51
+1
2019-03-05 05:08
#240
 | 
Israel wetz 
+1
2019-03-05 05:45
It was 3am and I'm an idiot as it is, so yes I would like a medal for actually understanding it
2019-03-05 08:46
#489
Bewgz | 
Australia g00sey 
At least you are honest
2019-03-05 22:02
#27
ropz | 
Germany SteveMW 
so chrisj and styko back and + karrigan?
2019-03-05 01:51
#28
 | 
France iNolake 
Wait what
2019-03-05 01:51
CLOUD9 SIGN GET_RICE, NOT THIS SKRUB
2019-03-05 01:51
#90
 | 
Albania JonZherka 
Get rice
2019-03-05 02:05
Asian GeT_RiGhT?
2019-03-05 03:23
Actually he exists
2019-03-05 04:52
Get_Rice... get it right dude
2019-03-06 17:20
#31
 | 
United States Trump2020KAG 
Mouz giving up on tier1 cs if they let sunny go.
2019-03-05 01:51
yeah...
2019-03-05 01:53
#297
 | 
Finland Teukkasd 
seems like mouz org wants money very much :/
2019-03-05 07:41
#410
 | 
Iceland fatboislim 
they know they are fucked cause they are poor and cant compete in tier 1 anymore. so ofcourse they are selling everyone cause they still got good value.
2019-03-05 12:01
#411
 | 
Finland Teukkasd 
yes ez money
2019-03-05 12:03
#32
 | 
United States kearCS 
Today's broadcast partly Cloud9 and suNny
2019-03-05 01:51
#241
 | 
Israel wetz 
So funny!
2019-03-05 05:46
WTF U MAD BROO
2019-03-05 01:51
#34
 | 
United States pieceofpi 
ChrisJ wouldn't be a bad pickup either. Plus, mouz wouldn't be dead
2019-03-05 01:51
#53
 | 
United States Ethans^ 
That’s two igl players tho
2019-03-05 01:54
#86
 | 
United States pieceofpi 
ChrisJ could just play primary AWP. That's what he did before he was IGL
2019-03-05 02:04
#178
 | 
United States Mystickrat 
I prefer autimatic to be the awper, since you transitioned him into an awper why suddenly stop so you can bring another awper
2019-03-05 03:18
#183
 | 
United States pieceofpi 
Tbh I don't agree with c9 going eu in the first place, so I'd try signing FugLy as a support player, giving kio and rush more freedon
2019-03-05 03:23
#294
Magisk | 
African Union nwaarr 
golden is already the support but ok
2019-03-05 07:38
#319
 | 
United States pieceofpi 
You can have 2 support players and work well. When Liquid had Taco, he and nitr0 both played support roles. Astralis does it too with gla1ve and Xyp9x
2019-03-05 08:03
#326
Magisk | 
African Union nwaarr 
nitro you mean the guy with the awp ?
2019-03-05 08:14
#332
 | 
United States pieceofpi 
It's not unheard of to have a support AWPer. i.e. Skadoodle and allu. When c9 won the major, ska was the one throwing nades for his teammates and letting them take the fights. Same goes for nitr0, but to a lesser extent
2019-03-05 08:37
#340
Magisk | 
African Union nwaarr 
i mean this kind of thing is stupid in my opinion if you gonna waste 4750$ on an awp you should be using it a it fullest. that also why i dont get why nitro is still awping rn... if you gonna support just give the awp to someone else like stewie for exemple...
2019-03-05 08:48
#421
 | 
France LanaRhoades 
You're just mad cuz c9 will be EU
2019-03-05 13:06
#363
 | 
Germany Constikdw 
Well chrisJ is a better awper than autimatic for sure and I doubt it’ll be hard him to go back to the rifle
2019-03-05 09:26
I think autimatic is waay better to have as a rifler..
2019-03-05 10:52
expected
2019-03-05 01:51
#67
 | 
Panama Cyain10 
In what universe
2019-03-05 01:58
Lmao
2019-03-05 04:31
Cloud9 always want everything here and now, thats not going to work 95% of the times
2019-03-05 01:51
#231
 | 
Korea DadaDahyun 
Yeah true they should try to play with 4 players
2019-03-05 05:22
#242
 | 
Israel wetz 
Rofl
2019-03-05 05:46
#341
Magisk | 
African Union nwaarr 
great idea....
2019-03-05 08:49
Probably the most unexpected roster change, ever. RIP MOUZ.
2019-03-05 01:52
Why? Sunny doesnt have full team and c9 needs 1 rifler
2019-03-05 02:03
Mouz Legends needed to build around the original core. Rip.
2019-03-05 02:06
LOL what.
2019-03-05 01:52
#39
 | 
United States inflict 
dam unexpected
2019-03-05 01:52
#40
 | 
Spain L3gi13 
No God pls no
2019-03-05 01:52
#42
 | 
Canada top_zozzle 
what the fuck
2019-03-05 01:52
#43
 | 
United States kaninCS 
Not bad. Golden, Kio, if Flusha comes back, Autimatic, Sunny. Could work. Without flusha idk how good they could be.
2019-03-05 01:53
Flusha isn’t coming back
2019-03-05 02:00
Honestly not a bad call for the shortlist i think that it may even out the different ideologys within the team hope to see the 5th member soon so we can start this year with a bang
2019-03-05 01:53
#47
 | 
United States Ethans^ 
If RUSH gets back to full form Autimatic, Kio, and Sunny is DEADLY especially if Golden gets back to good entry’s and solid igling
2019-03-05 01:53
#414
 | 
Iceland fatboislim 
sounds good on paper, but i cant find chemistry here.
2019-03-05 12:12
Lol what will happen with mousesports then ?
2019-03-05 01:53
Why would he take a risk like this
2019-03-05 01:53
i don't get it either.. he is cool with ropz, he would have to move to NA to join a team which is not better than mouz?!
2019-03-05 01:57
i could see Sunny enjoying living in LA honestly, seems like the type of guy
2019-03-05 02:03
yeah could be the case.. but he also is a family guy
2019-03-05 02:04
+1 his Instagram says it all, he wouldn't leave Europe if his family stayed imo, but then again it's his life, I just don't see it happening
2019-03-05 02:09
yeah, i don't get it, really.
2019-03-05 02:10
nah he is finnish he will hate it
2019-03-05 02:04
Yeah Finnish and Irish are alike, neither of us get sun
2019-03-05 02:09
#115
 | 
United States kearCS 
Just gonna leave this here, you are the first Irish person I've seen on here. Have a great day!
2019-03-05 02:14
Really not that many of us lol?
2019-03-05 02:16
#265
 | 
World Nastradoomus 
Just look at the bright side of life.
2019-03-05 06:38
wtf
2019-03-05 01:53
#51
 | 
United States Raptorial 
ez
2019-03-05 01:54
pls don't let sunny join this trash ty
2019-03-05 01:54
#55
 | 
Europe SQXZAF 
LALAL PREKELE
2019-03-05 01:55
LOL WTF
2019-03-05 01:55
#57
 | 
United States Trump2020KAG 
Ropz to faze.
2019-03-05 01:55
#58
 | 
Switzerland Tang1 
well that's weird but okay, they should also replace rush tbh
2019-03-05 01:55
#185
 | 
United States Mystickrat 
Then they lose there major spot
2019-03-05 03:24
#196
 | 
Switzerland Tang1 
flusha could comeback in time then.
2019-03-05 03:39
#243
 | 
United States Mystickrat 
But he taking an extended break
2019-03-05 05:48
#59
 | 
Germany Freeware 
That's surprising lol
2019-03-05 01:55
#61
 | 
North America Techno_Lover 
Don't you fucking dare
2019-03-05 01:55
#63
 | 
World dammo 
NO PLS GET AWAY FROM MOUZ FFS:(
2019-03-05 01:56
#66
 | 
Panama Cyain10 
Wtf cloud9
2019-03-05 01:58
WTF
2019-03-05 01:59
HOLY SHIT
2019-03-05 02:00
Why should mouz do that??????????
2019-03-05 02:00
#94
 | 
Myanmar xdcc 
If sunny wants to leave he will be unmotivated in mousesports.
2019-03-05 02:06
Why would suNny want to leave mouz, move to USA and join c9?
2019-03-05 02:07
#99
 | 
Myanmar xdcc 
Idk ask him. If he doesn't want to then there's nothing c9 can do
2019-03-05 02:08
bored maybe, new adventure, LA lifestyle etc.. why not?
2019-03-05 02:45
mouz karrigan frozen ropz valde oskar c9 golden kio autimatic sunny smooya
2019-03-05 02:01
#369
 | 
Czech Republic Jacksson 
Sunny Ropz Oskar +Karrigan +Frozen and I'd be more then happy
2019-03-05 09:44
Smooya? XD never
2019-03-05 10:56
#76
 | 
Brazil WORLD_CITIZEN 
What?
2019-03-05 02:01
#77
 | 
Venezuela xoile 
just go to ence!
2019-03-05 02:01
#78
 | 
Poland lilnowik 
good
2019-03-05 02:01
rip ropz :(
2019-03-05 02:01
Such a shame they kicked STYKO in the first place, ruined such a good team
2019-03-05 02:02
#82
 | 
Finland NatiSoci 
LOL
2019-03-05 02:02
#84
autist | 
France edrissM 
kio Golden autimatic (back to rifle) rush and get chrisJ
2019-03-05 02:03
or smooya
2019-03-05 02:18
#266
 | 
World Nastradoomus 
Fuck missJ
2019-03-05 06:39
#89
 | 
Myanmar xdcc 
Excuse me wtf. 1 minor and the team is dead 🤑
2019-03-05 02:05
this so much. the team fell apart because of that one fuck-up...
2019-03-05 03:25
#260
 | 
Finland spin-o 
There's been multiple sources that there was problem for a longer time, for example sunnu expressing that he was not satisfied with the work ethics of some his team mates.
2019-03-05 06:33
oh I see
2019-03-05 07:07
oh yes baby come to papa
2019-03-05 02:05
Sunny to ENCE
2019-03-05 02:07
#98
 | 
Spain JasonRacism 
I don't see Mouz letting this happen
2019-03-05 02:07
i can't either but it looks like it. i mean, they're talking about exploratory talks regarding a potential transfer...
2019-03-05 02:09
RIP mouz. Buying snax, benching chrisj and now selling sunny. They are just stupid af
2019-03-05 02:16
it makes no sense if they don't have a good replacement(valde/krimz) already which they need the money for.
2019-03-05 02:18
#101
 | 
Brazil millerjmatos 
waste of time
2019-03-05 02:09
please sunny...go to cloud 9...get out that trash team
2019-03-05 02:09
GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE C9 YOU WERE ALL AMERICAN A YEAR AGO AND NOW YOU WANT TO BE 3/5 EUROPE
2019-03-05 02:10
Can't blame em. No talent left in NA
2019-03-05 02:14
The only talent in NA is in liquid, and with adren as coach we'll see how long that lasts
2019-03-05 02:15
#131
Xyp9x | 
Cyprus Xeeh 
na NRG has talent too and just picked up tarik to get even better
2019-03-05 02:22
Oh yeh forgot bout big dick nrg
2019-03-05 02:23
They were already 3/5 Europe before golden got sick
2019-03-05 03:17
#110
 | 
Finland v3tu 
Finnish-Estonian superteam with allu, aleksib, ropz, sunny, sergej would be something else.
2019-03-05 02:12
#148
 | 
CIS Vyadro 
You better get away from ENCE
2019-03-05 02:33
Cloud9 becomes fully European LUL RIP NA
2019-03-05 03:26
#193
 | 
Finland v3tu 
If sergej would become main awp, allu went to support/clutch/secondary-awp/veteran-backbone-of-the-team, ropz and sunny rifle stars. This lineup would be absolute bonkers and would easily dethrone astralis. Allu actually said in the recent ence document that he's not trying so hard to improve as a player anymore, so that role would actually be fitting for him. Obviously ropz is out of reach for ence at least, so this is just fantasy.
2019-03-05 03:40
#268
 | 
World Nastradoomus 
What the fuck?!??! He said just the opposite.
2019-03-05 06:41
#335
 | 
Finland xcel 
yea lul wtf is he talking about
2019-03-05 08:45
#112
 | 
Argentina Fa7e07 
rip mouz
2019-03-05 02:12
#113
 | 
China serdim 
chrisj is better
2019-03-05 02:13
Mouz org is so damn stupid
2019-03-05 02:15
Mouz project RIP ?
2019-03-05 02:16
Relax, if sunny leaves the team: +karrigan +valde +chrisJ EZ top team.
2019-03-05 02:32
why they need karrigan ? karrigan doesnt fit for "top" team
2019-03-05 02:43
they just benched chris
2019-03-05 02:46
Ez return.
2019-03-05 03:36
#127
 | 
Portugal ItsAvenn 
No plz... mouz better... Ence better than c9....
2019-03-05 02:19
obviously ence is better
2019-03-05 02:32
#161
 | 
Other 3ms 
obviously ence is the #4 best team right now clown 9 like top 9 for ever
2019-03-05 02:55
Ence's major run is a complete fluke, why dont people see such obvious things ?
2019-03-07 17:06
No matter how much of u think it was, theyre still better than c9
2019-03-08 00:23
#130
 | 
Poland Kobel_ 
EU C9 again? lul
2019-03-05 02:22
#132
xseveN | 
Chile Zzalb 
The most likely scenario is that mousesports is gonna transfer suNny to Cloud9, meanwhile mouz gets karrigan and frozen to fill the remaining roles (entry and IGL) and they bring back STYKO to the roster (again)
2019-03-05 02:23
wtf
2019-03-05 02:23
CSGO again proved its bullshit in every aspect
2019-03-05 02:24
Kio Sunny Autimatic ChrisJ igl/awper Valde EU9
2019-03-05 02:24
#156
 | 
United States qzkR 
And risk needing to go through the EU minor to make the major? I don’t see it happening.
2019-03-05 02:50
#279
 | 
Europe lalt 
Bombing out of major means roster changes anyway for this caliber org.
2019-03-05 07:04
#299
 | 
United States qzkR 
The hold a new challengers stage spot which is $$$ If they wouldn’t have played both the Chinese teams like bots it could have been different too
2019-03-05 07:42
#312
 | 
Europe lalt 
Same in English plz.
2019-03-05 07:51
#330
 | 
United States qzkR 
Sorry; playing the EU minor could potentially cause the org to lose money since they are already guaranteed stickers at the next major. They also only bombed out because they played like bots against the Chinese teams.
2019-03-05 08:32
#454
 | 
Europe lalt 
Cloud9 has guaranteed invite to Berlin New Challenger Stage as long as they keep 3 players from Katowice.
2019-03-05 16:48
#529
 | 
United States qzkR 
Valde Auti Kio Sunny ChrisJ I know they need three but that is only TWO of the same memebers of Cloud9
2019-03-07 23:21
#138
Aleksib | 
Finland Mitzu 
Hard to believe he would leave Ropz behind, always got the feeling hes like a big brother to him. That said, money talks and not having to go through EU minors is a huge plus. We shall see..
2019-03-05 02:26
that would be sweet, we need strong C9, it is one of the more professional and big esports organisations anyway.
2019-03-05 02:28
#141
TACO | 
Lithuania Malest 
No future in C9.
2019-03-05 02:30
Flusha will be back in weeks, in 1 month at longest possibility, why are they looking for a expensive guy like suNny? He is really good but who will get kicked after flusha comes back?
2019-03-05 02:31
It's obvious bro. Rush will be kicked for flusha. New potential C9 lineup will be: Autimatic Kioshima Golden Flusha Sunny
2019-03-05 03:04
Reddit guys say flusha's contrat has ended, he is free agent now
2019-03-05 03:40
#190
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Australia BTwice 
Lol why does what he costs matter? Its their $$
2019-03-05 03:29
i can only dream about Autimatic ChrisJ SunNy KioShiMa Rush pls
2019-03-05 02:32
#188
 | 
Australia BTwice 
Love that.
2019-03-05 03:28
-rush +ropz
2019-03-05 07:29
#144
 | 
Brazil candymau 
Come on man. Don't leave ropz to die. He has potencial. Someone save him from this sinking ship
2019-03-05 02:32
#556
Boombl4 | 
Poland RoDaK 
yeah i feel bad for him
2019-03-15 15:49
#147
 | 
Netherlands @Deji 
Expected
2019-03-05 02:32
#150
Happy | 
Germany NatsuS 
Why should mouz let him go? Only when they bring chrisj back. And get a trade.
2019-03-05 02:40
Next week: Mousesports down to two
2019-03-05 02:40
#160
 | 
Other 3ms 
xDDDDDDDDDDDD
2019-03-05 02:54
#159
 | 
Other 3ms 
rush:Sunny is a good player sunny:fak
2019-03-05 02:54
unexpected
2019-03-05 03:04
Sunny+chirsj Chrisj Main Awp finally+Igl Rush + Sunny Entry Kio - support Auti - Lurker/God
2019-03-05 03:07
#191
 | 
Australia BTwice 
Excellent
2019-03-05 03:29
Tbh, this is just like Mousesports ecoing after a 15 round deficit on the 16th round. Holy shit don't leave ropz, Sunny.
2019-03-05 03:12
This is a bad idea for a few reasons. 1. Sunny is overrated 2. Cloud9 needs to stick with an American core if they want to keep a good NA fanbase 3. There is good talent in NA available
2019-03-05 03:12
#202
 | 
United States Specter4572 
who is left in NA that is "good"? meaning players that arent already contracted by other teams????
2019-03-05 04:02
A couple of the NRG players for starters.
2019-03-05 20:08
#540
 | 
United States Specter4572 
WHO???? Specifically? Fugly is garbage and he is the only one not locked down. Brehze would be good but the buyout is probably massive same thing with Ethan.
2019-03-09 03:23
nt ameriakan
2019-03-05 05:34
Not quite sure what you mean.
2019-03-05 06:07
what makes you think NA has talented cs player
2019-03-05 14:05
16th best player of 2018 is overrated but wants to bring in shitty na talent ? ok nice logic
2019-03-05 06:29
I can say wıth 100 percent certainty that no good NA talent is available. A bunch of rank s drama queens and bots basically. Eu talents are much better
2019-03-05 07:09
#304
 | 
Finland Teukkasd 
0/8 burger xd
2019-03-05 07:46
#172
 | 
Spain iamF1XEN 
Plz no
2019-03-05 03:13
the world knows the fins are gods now
2019-03-05 03:17
fake news
2019-03-05 03:18
mouz disband LUL
2019-03-05 03:19
mouz? what doink
2019-03-05 03:22
#182
 | 
Australia BTwice 
This would be sick! Get it done!!
2019-03-05 03:22
#189
HUNDEN | 
Other ToRu 
Flusha to mouz? would be nice
2019-03-05 03:29
Better stay with Mouz, Sunney
2019-03-05 03:48
#199
 | 
El Salvador Sp1x 
Really bad move for mouz, but C9 are looking to actually have a respectable roster with this.
2019-03-05 03:54
NO
2019-03-05 03:56
This would be so bad for mouz - but, honestly, whomever's decision it was to get rid of ChristJ should be shot. Basically killed the team.
2019-03-05 04:14
eu9
2019-03-05 04:16
EU9
2019-03-05 04:22
#210
 | 
Brazil P4uloVisk 
-golden +sunny
2019-03-05 04:26
#211
 | 
Finland FinYuna 
Hell no!
2019-03-05 04:26
#214
arT | 
Brazil rickySCE 
They will lose next Major and he will depart
2019-03-05 04:31
:0
2019-03-05 04:41
Rip mouz:(
2019-03-05 04:42
go away c9
2019-03-05 04:52
c9 fans dont want him anyway lol. well some do, but this isn't the c9 we fell in love with. its an EU team now
2019-03-05 06:51
feelsbad. I wish Jack would open his eyes and sign some new NA talent, at least to make Cloud9 a fun team again
2019-03-05 07:27
You speak like there is NA talent to sign. C9's only option is to go EU because there's no NA talent that can compete at a t1 level. Also if you only like a team for their nationality than you're not truly a fan. Third of all, Jack's objective is to make a team that's going to yield profit for him not to have a "fun" team
2019-03-08 05:07
nt if you think this c9 roster will win anything
2019-03-08 10:56
#227
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Indonesia tsokai 
Wut??? Go take Smooya and let Tim back to rifling
2019-03-05 05:08
#237
Jame | 
Brazil Danxd22 
autimatic is a fucking god with awp. His aim is so impressive.
2019-03-05 05:38
and don't forget his deagle
2019-03-05 07:09
#293
Jame | 
Brazil Danxd22 
Impossible to forget.
2019-03-05 07:37
#557
Boombl4 | 
Poland RoDaK 
lmao cant recall one deagle shot from him, more like m4 sprays
2019-03-15 15:50
#331
 | 
Indonesia tsokai 
He's better as rifler tho
2019-03-05 08:34
#228
 | 
Spain akproxx 
Pls no
2019-03-05 05:09
mouz' mentality is weak, no team chemistry. they should unfortunately disband. he should go to a better team than c9 though. Ence would be better tbh
2019-03-05 05:39
Not gona happen.
2019-03-05 05:52
#247
Day2 | 
Russia _Arise_ 
If u want Finnish killer u can take Zehn. He's not worse and free
2019-03-05 06:07
zehn omegalul
2019-03-05 07:07
#248
 | 
Brazil ^7|1 
EU9
2019-03-05 06:10
#249
 | 
United States sxg 
if they kept flusha and added sunny they would have a lot of firepower..
2019-03-05 06:10
+1
2019-03-05 06:28
#250
 | 
Australia weapon_ 
A mix of talent.. flusha musnt have wanted to play with golden ? Kio Rush Autimatic Golden + sunny A good move.. bad for mouz.. unless mouz are looking at getting flusha/karrigan and maybe bringing back chrisj ? Flusha to faze -olof Simple to faze -guardian Electronic to faze -adren Ezclap..
2019-03-05 06:16
Mouz made 500k with NiKo. How much will C9 pay for sunny?
2019-03-05 06:18
#285
 | 
Europe lalt 
They made 500k and wasted half of it to snax. Now they are too poor to get full lineup.
2019-03-05 07:12
any source besides thin air?
2019-03-05 09:05
Wtf?
2019-03-05 06:21
wouldnt mind this if they still had flusha but god both mousesports and cloud9 are gonna suck if they both make unnecessary moves
2019-03-05 06:27
good
2019-03-05 06:31
Why dont anyone think about c9 add smoya,if this will happen its ez boost for C9, they will have good sniper and auti will can play with rifle...
2019-03-05 06:37
He allready has cool golden chain so he has no point to go there only for money
2019-03-05 06:37
This would be a downgrade for sunny even with mouz having no team at the moment. Mouz should raid HR, they have some good players but no teamwork. woxic to BiG and ISSAA and Hobbit to mouz.
2019-03-05 07:02
#310
 | 
Finland Teukkasd 
i would rather take issaa and woxic than hobbit
2019-03-05 07:48
The problem is they already have oskar as awp and ive seen a rumor about woxic joining xantares in BiG
2019-03-05 07:49
#313
 | 
Finland Teukkasd 
yes but woxic could be secondary awp, he has insane aim can rifle too
2019-03-05 07:53
#374
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Czech Republic Jacksson 
woxic and issaa are big friends. They'd leave together. Hopefuly to Mouz, but who knows
2019-03-05 09:53
c9 have no future with golden. Sunny should stay in mouz. Much more perspective!
2019-03-05 07:04
if i would be sunny, probably i would like to stay home.
2019-03-05 07:10
well rip sunnys carreer
2019-03-05 07:42
#301
 | 
Finland lasarus 
No sunny no
2019-03-05 07:43
#302
 | 
Georgia Satan_p 
Eu team incoming dead NA Cs.
2019-03-05 07:45
#305
 | 
Poland thunder0313 
Go pasha
2019-03-05 07:46
#308
 | 
Poland Astoner55 
Lmao ggwp
2019-03-05 07:47
#315
 | 
Europe trey_ 
what the fuck
2019-03-05 07:54
Sunny should either stay on mouz, join ENCE, or maybe join FaZe, in my opinion Definitely not C9
2019-03-05 07:55
I can understand their interest in Sunny but what was the deal adding Golden again? He wasnt that much of a fragger. Is he IGL or support?
2019-03-05 08:03
IGL
2019-03-05 08:51
Sunny join c9 that mean?
2019-03-05 08:03
Come on join ence
2019-03-05 08:11
Nobody is bad in ENCE, xseveN just saved himself with great consistency in playoffs.
2019-03-06 15:57
the good old NA Shuffle if it's broken break it even more
2019-03-05 08:14
Cloud9 no! go somewhere else to find new toys.
2019-03-05 08:16
Hhahahahaa :DDD
2019-03-06 19:48
Is this a joke?
2019-03-05 08:18
#334
 | 
Ukraine niXoN|w1 
Nice, yet again C9 acquire young players to be wasted away by washed-ups they signed.........
2019-03-05 08:40
Would be the worst mouz transfer of all times. Of they do it they wont be able to win anything...maybe a tier3 tournament with 50k but qualifying for the major will be hard with the other teams in the europe qualifier
2019-03-05 08:46
NO NO NO NO NO NO SUNNY NOOOOO BUENO
2019-03-05 08:48
#343
 | 
Japan Cute_Loli 
Well this would make c9 an official international team
2019-03-05 08:52
Fuck no
2019-03-05 08:58
Nooooo sunny dont take it with golden this team dont have future.....
2019-03-05 09:04
#353
chrisJ | 
United Kingdom dv-_- 
Mouz need to add chrisj and styko and stop fucking about
2019-03-05 09:07
Please dont fuckin do this to me MAUZ :'(
2019-03-05 09:15
Gl bro
2019-03-05 09:19
Back to eu C9
2019-03-05 09:22
#361
 | 
China fu22Y 
sunny to ence
2019-03-05 09:24
#364
ropz | 
Finland Sandels 
not gonna happen imo
2019-03-05 09:27
#366
swag | 
Latvia `DinGo 
Would be a sick upgrade, true
2019-03-05 09:36
+sunny -olof, adren to igl.
2019-03-05 09:46
#375
 | 
Ukraine TheVodkaGuy 
Adren igl. Don't think that will be good decision
2019-03-05 09:54
#451
 | 
Sweden REVZy 
Nah, I think they are going to kick him
2019-03-05 15:52
C9 is going to disorganize Mouz
2019-03-05 09:55
#378
 | 
Europe Shingy 
as long as it's Golden on this team, it can't do any work. -Golden
2019-03-05 09:59
#379
 | 
Korea XigNw0w 
Rip mouz
2019-03-05 10:01
#381
 | 
Russia hanzjosha 
im feeling not thank u
2019-03-05 10:03
sunny shouldn’t downgrade, only good thing with this would be C9 EU flag xd
2019-03-05 10:10
don't waste your talent in na
2019-03-05 10:11
#384
rain | 
Norway Alexed 
Sunny don't do this but sunny > flusha any day
2019-03-05 10:21
#389
oskar | 
Czech Republic PaYaB 
No way, that he wants to move to NA.
2019-03-05 10:43
Dedinetly sunny isn't coming cuz they have already 3 star players in mousesports.
2019-03-05 10:53
-kio -golden +chrisj +sunny +ropz XD
2019-03-05 11:04
kio > ropz+sunny
2019-03-05 11:41
#395
 | 
Norway PeteZz 
Clouds cover up the sun. He won’t be able to shine :(
2019-03-05 11:12
#427
 | 
Korea DadaDahyun 
i cri
2019-03-05 13:25
#397
 | 
Czech Republic Archengel 
Ain't happening. He would be stupid to do that
2019-03-05 11:26
#399
 | 
Finland f0pZ 
hell no suNny, just find your place in faze
2019-03-05 11:37
not expected tbh
2019-03-05 13:11
#424
 | 
Norway Nordavind 
Nice
2019-03-05 13:14
#430
NEO | 
Ukraine s1v9mple 
C9 becoming the new budget FaZe
2019-03-05 13:30
-allu + sunny
2019-03-05 13:42
C9 and mouz are my two favourite teams, I'm not sure if I'm extremely happy or completely devastated rn
2019-03-05 13:43
#477
 | 
Israel TheLoveGuy 
Both of them are gonna be awesome now I dont know about mouz ( they got karrigan and chris on the same team + I dont know how frozen plays ) but I think it would be fine :)
2019-03-05 20:11
hopefully you're right my friend. great to see C9 improving and i'm definitely excited to see the new mouz lineup
2019-03-06 01:00
#500
 | 
Israel TheLoveGuy 
Me 2 :D
2019-03-06 06:20
please, no.
2019-03-05 13:48
Hello fnatic what doink????? literally last chance to get a top tier roster and they think keeping xizt and jw is a good idea
2019-03-05 14:02
no fnatic has no hope anymore after kicking flusha but hey, at least you can be happy about him being finally kicked =)
2019-03-06 08:56
They were even worse with flusha but keep on being delusional
2019-03-08 17:16
Thats not the point?
2019-03-08 17:23
Would be good for C9
2019-03-05 14:59
#445
 | 
Poland Hell2k 
clown9 lul
2019-03-05 15:07
#446
 | 
Norway PeteZz 
Can sunny speak swedish? New fnatic sunny cromen twist krimz jw yah man
2019-03-05 15:08
CROMEN XDDDDDDDDDDDDD
2019-03-05 16:51
#546
 | 
Namibia ogge_ 
Only around 5 prosent of Finland's population can speak native Swedish so I doubt that :P
2019-03-11 23:10
Why in the world would suNny do that for real. What is the point? Money? It can't be the team tho, C9 was performing unbelieveably bad in the last month so why should suNny "downgrade"? Is it the NA scene? I don't think so. What the hell should be an "pro C9"-argument? I don't see it.
2019-03-05 15:32
c9 was in majors, mouz wasn't more money
2019-03-05 21:33
#528
 | 
Australia BTwice 
This isnt up to him. Its up to the orgs
2019-03-07 22:48
C9 has more potential imo...
2019-03-09 23:14
#450
allu | 
Sweden Dguyg 
Yes please #EZ4ENCE
2019-03-05 15:51
#452
 | 
Canada bitterzie 
no sunny noooo
2019-03-05 16:10
#473
shox | 
India iejesus 
wtf is happening
2019-03-05 18:40
rip his career lul
2019-03-05 19:32
#481
 | 
Brazil ralfera 
feels bad for autimatic and rush, it's not possible that NA hasn't new players for trials... geez, why c9 don't just go to EU.
2019-03-05 20:49
good move sunny!
2019-03-05 21:32
SunNy to ENCE instead of Aerial
2019-03-06 04:47
Just don't kick ropz outta Mouz and you'll be fine.
2019-03-06 05:33
Nooo, Sunny go join ENCE instead of Aerial, would make ENCE insanely good
2019-03-06 08:44
Yes, Aerial is the weakest link pretty much! Even though he is decent as well. sergej also isn't awfully consistent. but xseven is dope along with allu and aleksib
2019-03-06 19:53
Are you sure about that?
2019-03-06 11:13
It's better for SuNny to join C9 than stay in mousesport with they potencional roster
2019-03-06 11:53
ASTRALIS IS THE GREAT KING, ,,,,,,,,, I think it's fun to think about, the reason why there are so many roster changes ,,,, that's because they can't beat ASTRALIS ,,,, ALL SERIES THE DEMOS,,,ALL TRRY TO COPY ,,,,ALL TRY TO COPY THEY WAY OFF GAME,,,,,,,,,,,,ALL TRY TO MAKE WHAT THEY HAVE DONE ASTRALIS ROOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLL
2019-03-06 15:28
= end of sunny's career
2019-03-07 10:05
I heard lot of supid stuff, but this? I mean they can pay him good, probably, but what else? I expect them to also reach for snax. Kappa I would rather see some decent IGL and one young talent in mouz. Like frozen + ex6 or hampus or someone who can igl...
2019-03-07 17:35
Cloud 9 is like shitty Midas, they sign good players and turn them into tier-999 players. Poor flusha and kio, they don't deserve it.
2019-03-08 20:37
#539
 | 
Netherlands AimbotMelvin 
-kio -golden +skadoodle +stewie +tarik This is how it needs to be.
2019-03-08 22:48
pls dont
2019-03-09 15:36
go ence
2019-03-11 08:51
why tho m8
2019-03-11 12:49
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