mousesports hold talks for woxic, frozen and karrigan

mousesports are lining up moves for Özgür "woxic" Eker, David "frozen" Čerňanský and Finn "karrigan" Andersen, HLTV.org and 1pv.fr can confirm.

The European giants are currently undergoing a major overhaul of their squad after failing to qualify for the IEM Katowice Major and are preparing for life without Miikka "suNny" Kemppi, who is being courted by Cloud9, as HLTV.org revealed on Monday evening.

mousesports are looking to build their new team around Robin "ropz" Kool and Chris "chrisJ" de Jong, with the experienced Dutchman set to be brought back into the starting line-up. Tomáš "oskar" Šťastný was initially supposed to remain in the team, but recent developments see the 27-year-old moved to the bench.

mousesports keen on woxic

As Dexerto reported on Monday, mousesports are interested in signing karrigan, who recently returned to FaZe after a short loan with Envy. The Danish tactician is no stranger to the German organisation, which he represented for over two years across three different spells, in 1.6 and CS:GO, between 2010 and 2014.

In recent days, woxic has emerged as mousesports' primary target to replace oskar in the sniper role. The 20-year-old has been with HellRaisers since August 2017, most notably helping the team to a top-eight finish at the FACEIT Major.

The final piece of the squad that mousesports are looking to assemble is frozen, who was last seen representing NoChance. The 16-year-old's career has stagnated in the last year, but it seems now that he will finally get the chance to prove himself at the highest ever after emerging as one of the most promising young talents in Europe with eXtatus in 2017.

mousesports are expected to make an announcement on the future of the squad in the coming days as the team will compete in the ECS Season 7 regular season, kicking off March 11.

If confirmed, these changes will leave mousesports with the following line-up:

Estonia Robin "ropz" Kool
Netherlands Chris "chrisJ" de Jong
Denmark Finn "karrigan" Andersen
Turkey Özgür "woxic" Eker
Slovakia David "frozen" Čerňanský

Finland Miikka 'suNny' Kemppi
Miikka 'suNny' Kemppi
Age:
24
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
1.08
Maps played:
1016
KPR:
0.76
DPR:
0.69
APR:
0.15
Estonia Robin 'ropz' Kool
Robin 'ropz' Kool
Age:
19
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.08
Maps played:
521
KPR:
0.71
DPR:
0.62
APR:
0.11
Slovakia David 'frozen' Čerňanský
David 'frozen' Čerňanský
Age:
16
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.17
Maps played:
597
KPR:
0.81
DPR:
0.67
APR:
0.14
Netherlands Chris 'chrisJ' de Jong
Chris 'chrisJ' de Jong
Age:
28
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.04
Maps played:
1335
KPR:
0.70
DPR:
0.66
APR:
0.11
Denmark Finn 'karrigan' Andersen
Finn 'karrigan' Andersen
Age:
29
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.94
Maps played:
1409
KPR:
0.64
DPR:
0.68
APR:
0.13
Czech Republic Tomáš 'oskar' Šťastný
Tomáš 'oskar' Šťastný
Age:
27
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.13
Maps played:
918
KPR:
0.77
DPR:
0.65
APR:
0.11
Turkey Özgür 'woxic' Eker
Özgür 'woxic' Eker
Age:
20
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.15
Maps played:
610
KPR:
0.77
DPR:
0.62
APR:
0.11
#4
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Austria S3nsey 
KING
2019-03-05 13:54
GOAT
2019-03-05 13:55
#56
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Austria S3nsey 
WHOS TALKING
2019-03-05 13:58
#67
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Austria S3nsey 
NT f5 HERO, ADMINS ON MA SIDE CUS
2019-03-05 13:58
CRY IS FREE XAXAXAXAXA
2019-03-05 13:59
#113
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Austria shaakeh 
HEHEHEHE
2019-03-05 14:01
#144
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Denmark belikeme 
Excited for these changes. I just don't feel like karrigan/chrisJ being in the same team can get them to the top, since both are IGL and none of them are mad fraggers. suNny instead of karrigan and it looks promising
2019-03-05 14:05
-STYKO +STYKO -chrisJ +chrisJ 200 IQ move again on mouz.
2019-03-05 14:17
#243
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El Salvador prolife 
lul
2019-03-05 14:20
expected roster changes
2019-03-05 14:26
2 igls lul rip mouz
2019-03-05 15:08
chrisj can be a decent tier 3 starplayer instead
2019-03-05 18:00
#662
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Slovakia Georgy10 
Ropz: Entry ChrisJ: IGL Karrigan: Sup woxic: AWP Frozen: Rifler
2019-03-05 21:11
2 IGLS best strat tbh
2019-03-05 21:35
maybe it will be like zeus and edward. Zeus IGL, Edward (moral) support
2019-03-05 23:33
Lmao
2019-03-06 05:35
#757
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Denmark mersault17 
XD
2019-03-06 16:20
#738
NiKo | 
Sweden Flippee 
Ropz is a lurker, not entry you dumb. Frozen is entry.
2019-03-06 09:11
#743
fnx | 
Europe z10201z 
fox > coldzera
2019-03-06 12:04
#802
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Estonia skaad1337 
mixwell>s1mple
2019-03-14 12:39
#701
Zeus | 
Russia Mickeeey 
lmao
2019-03-06 02:05
#395
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Netherlands Sander335 
I really hope Sunny will remain in mouz, and karrigan won't return
2019-03-05 14:58
#439
Dosia | 
World zeree 
+10000000
2019-03-05 15:24
+100000000000 Only karrigan looks bad there, if they kept Sunny it would be a really great lineup.
2019-03-14 17:02
#427
Aleksib | 
Finland MoRst 
well chris was not a igl with gob b but the star awper so he might happily give the spot away
2019-03-05 15:16
#470
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Netherlands Sander335 
What would his role be? Woxic would be main awper I'm assuming
2019-03-05 15:43
#517
Aleksib | 
Finland MoRst 
i really dont know what the fuck mouz is doing rn
2019-03-05 16:24
#673
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Denmark RandomDane 
ChrisJ can be a supporter?
2019-03-05 22:27
He's was really solid player in 2018 ,imho. Being support is just waste of firepower , karrigan is bad anyway can learn the smokes and die for someone else
2019-03-06 02:15
#729
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Denmark RandomDane 
The 3 others on mouz had more firepower than chrisj?
2019-03-06 08:26
Agreed
2019-03-08 20:58
#117
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Austria Huby98 
Hahaha efe noch bock?@s3nsey
2019-03-05 14:01
#334
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Europe _EpiC_ 
who is frozen? lol
2019-03-05 14:40
#379
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South Africa Frostinizo 
Search him his fucking insane Not better than me doe
2019-03-05 14:52
#253
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Austria S3nsey 
UR HONOR IS FREE KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
2019-03-05 14:23
LOL F5 AND NOT FIRST
2019-03-05 14:04
shaakeh BEST austrian user !
2019-03-05 13:58
#98
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Austria S3nsey 
nt te1mo best german user
2019-03-05 14:00
WH OMEGALUL ?
2019-03-05 14:00
#115
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Austria S3nsey 
SRY ONLY TALKING TO TOP COMMENT
2019-03-05 14:01
MIRAA HATE ME CYA NEXT NEWS WITH DIFFERENT ADMIN 😎😎😎😎😎
2019-03-05 14:02
#116
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Austria shaakeh 
spiegL
2019-03-05 14:01
#736
ScreaM | 
Germany SILVA3 
no ScreaM, no GOAT
2019-03-06 08:43
#39
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Palestine MrZoldiK 
I love seeing Woxic playing alongside with Issaa , but both deserve a better chance
2019-03-05 13:56
Is this because both of them are Arabs?
2019-03-05 14:50
#394
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Palestine MrZoldiK 
No , Woxic is Turkish and ISSAA is Jordanian, but they have a long story with each others , they were playing FPL together, and then played to a team called Gux and friends, the place where they played hard enough to be noticed by pro team , then Hellraisers contacted both of them , so you can say they are old friends and they used to play with each other.
2019-03-05 14:57
such a nice answer bro
2019-03-05 15:50
#484
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Palestine MrZoldiK 
Thanks 😁
2019-03-05 15:51
#556
Japan esy 
Now i want both at mouz :( You cant destroy this bromance.
2019-03-05 17:06
#559
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Palestine MrZoldiK 
I really hope so ... I support HR cuz both of them
2019-03-05 17:07
POG
2019-03-05 14:03
#181
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Austria S3nsey 
<3
2019-03-05 14:08
#240
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Denmark belikeme 
Hvid Neger wtf is this
2019-03-05 14:19
Its white nigger whats wrong with that
2019-03-05 18:30
communication is the crucial part of cs now so I don’t think any team consist of 5 different nationality players can make great steps.
2019-03-05 14:05
If all of them are fluent in English, why does it matter?
2019-03-05 14:15
That's why English exists mate
2019-03-05 14:42
Wrong. Most of them speak basic english. Igls cant really explain what they want from the team , that causes misscommunication as Ange1 stated in some interview.
2019-03-06 02:19
are you high or something?
2019-03-05 17:02
#553
keev | 
Germany _PH1L 
+infinity this team won't make it Karigan isn't the best And Oskar doesn't speak the hell if a lot from what I heard So bad communication worse strats Classic mouz!
2019-03-05 17:04
But oskar isnt there.
2019-03-05 17:58
It's better than a team with 2/3nationalities. Noone will be speaking their own language in the corner because it's more comfortable. Basically they have no option but to learn to communicate with everyone in english, on and off server. If approached correctly, this can be a used as an advantage for communication. Picking a term (and just this one term) to be used for whatever call it fits. Talk like you are in the army, short and efficient, use the same syntax (the order of the information presented). All this can more easily be decided upon, than if you were talking you own language, where you would more easily switch to "normal" talk instead of optimal cs.go communication. I do agree that it isn't optimal, but the above is clearly an advantage if you approach it like true professionals.
2019-03-05 17:27
Nice
2019-03-05 18:32
#787
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United States 0othA 
+ they can learn English
2019-03-09 08:18
Good
2019-03-05 13:54
#76
fnx | 
Brazil Joao@NTC 
frozen, the kid who is 16 years old for 4 years already, nice
2019-03-05 13:58
Right ?? For some reason i thought he would be around 18 at this point.. lmao
2019-03-05 14:28
#314
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Slovakia escapeiztop 
it may be because when you first heard about him in fpl he was 14 xd
2019-03-05 14:34
#524
NiKo | 
Belgium Akkawaka 
exactly ahahahaha
2019-03-05 16:30
maybe he was born on the 29 march
2019-03-05 16:41
#544
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Czech Republic Jacksson 
u mean on 29 February right? :D
2019-03-05 16:57
oh fuck yh i am retarded
2019-03-05 16:58
Lol
2019-03-06 11:59
#781
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Argentina XaiDN 
Hahahaha
2019-03-08 11:56
Well said indeed :D
2019-03-05 18:05
#7
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Europe Freeburger97 
PogU
2019-03-05 13:54
#460
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United Kingdom Khare 
But where will the nice English boy go?
2019-03-05 15:39
#9
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Serbia 2KGkaka 
still cant beat ence
2019-03-05 13:54
#59
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Yugoslavia OfficialTroll 
ez4ence my yugo brother
2019-03-05 13:58
wont be able to beat most teams with that line-up.
2019-03-05 14:01
i are agree
2019-03-05 14:55
#552
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Panama Cyain10 
+1111
2019-03-05 17:03
#10
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Argentina EnvyJ 
Wasn't chrisJ kicked?
2019-03-05 13:54
if thats true he returns 2nd time :D
2019-03-05 13:56
#42
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Finland Rullakko 
The article says they brought him back and benched oskar.
2019-03-05 13:57
#50
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Portugal tuwie 
He was benched alongside STYKO.
2019-03-05 13:57
-chrisj +chrisj -chrisj +chrisj
2019-03-05 13:57
#66
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Yugoslavia OfficialTroll 
+1
2019-03-05 13:58
200iq move
2019-03-05 14:06
smart baits from mouz
2019-03-05 14:42
lul
2019-03-05 14:43
#400
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Other 3ms 
xDDDDDDDDD
2019-03-05 15:03
omegaLUL
2019-03-05 16:21
they are pulling the old STYKO trick but now with ChrisJ It shows you that they have some people in that org that really make careful decisions.
2019-03-05 14:02
If I remember correctly they did the same with Oscar as well
2019-03-05 14:12
yep early in 2017
2019-03-05 14:28
and NiKo. lol You guys just made me realize how often this team benches and then brings back players. That's funny.
2019-03-06 12:52
Yea, this is a good illustration of inconsistency of their management. In other hand - it looks like common approach in esports: same happened to Taco, Styko, Zeus etc.
2019-03-06 13:19
-Spidii+Spidii-Spidii +Oskar-Oskar+Oskar-Oskar -Chrisj+Chrisj-Chrisj+Chrisj +Styko-Styko+Styko-Styko Seemann like you ve got a point
2019-03-06 16:19
*seems
2019-03-06 16:20
+NiKo -NiKo +NiKo -NiKo
2019-03-06 22:05
Wow
2019-03-05 13:54
Nice
2019-03-05 13:55
Wow
2019-03-05 13:55
thats so insane
2019-03-05 13:55
Nice
2019-03-05 13:55
#17
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Other VladimirLucas 
frozen > zywoo
2019-03-05 13:55
PUAHAHAHAHAHAHA
2019-03-05 14:08
#218
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Israel wetz 
Puhahahaha
2019-03-05 14:15
Hello bro, i just want to know what do you think about the war between isreal and palestine ? Ty ^^
2019-03-05 14:58
palestine sucks, no aim no brain, always rush eco mode
2019-03-05 15:09
I was not talking to you but np :)
2019-03-05 15:16
nice try, their IGL hiding in qatar what a coward
2019-03-05 15:22
He summarize it nicely.
2019-03-06 14:05
He summarize it nicely.
2019-03-06 14:05
Dude, it's Israel, a nation with an army of paid internet warriors. Don't expect him to be able to talk freely.
2019-03-05 18:43
GODXIC
2019-03-06 16:39
#18
NEO | 
Ukraine s1v9mple 
Not frozen pls Prodka players always toxic and ruin team chemistry
2019-03-05 13:55
#63
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Slovakia kubb1 
Hes not prodka cuz hes from slovakia
2019-03-05 13:58
#69
NEO | 
Ukraine s1v9mple 
nt prodka
2019-03-05 13:58
#91
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Slovakia kubb1 
I am not prodka wtf, u prodka
2019-03-05 13:59
#444
fer | 
Bosnia and Herzegovina garrettt 
he's gay salo
2019-03-05 15:25
prodkas best players wtf
2019-03-05 14:05
nt prokda wtf
2019-03-05 15:15
I'm not prokda WTF
2019-03-05 15:33
#19
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World DygL 
actually not a trash team
2019-03-05 13:55
tier 2 at best
2019-03-05 15:03
#20
Altekz | 
Netherlands xielA 
Sunny to cloud 9 confirmed
2019-03-05 13:55
#21
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African Union OllieMaN 
sunny is gone
2019-03-05 13:55
WOW
2019-03-05 13:55
Dont do this woxic
2019-03-05 13:55
#126
NiKo | 
Slovenia ArlindEl 
Why.
2019-03-05 14:02
#206
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Turkey em1e 
look at the team... says it all
2019-03-05 14:13
#231
NiKo | 
Slovenia ArlindEl 
Trust me if Karrigan gets to IGL he will make woxic a even better player that he's right now
2019-03-05 14:18
#383
Xyp9x | 
Portugal CRMN1 
if Karrigan gets to IGL chrisJ becomes a bit of a dead weight. He was impactful on Mousesports as an IGL, not as a fragger.
2019-03-05 14:54
I bet ChrisJ becomes better because then he can concentrate on double AWPing/his team play?
2019-03-05 15:16
#502
Xyp9x | 
Portugal CRMN1 
Are you starting a question with "I bet"?
2019-03-05 16:03
In this team Chris is most likely playing support tho which means his fragging impact doesn't necessarily have to be that high
2019-03-05 17:30
Haha nice burn
2019-03-06 14:07
he was the 3rd best entry fragger last year
2019-03-05 17:17
#653
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United States Jammin800k 
He had the 3rd most entry kills/round* that doesnt directly translate to him being the 3rd best
2019-03-05 20:45
what does then lmao
2019-03-05 21:15
#676
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United States Jammin800k 
Getting multi kills on entry, having high impact, translating opening kills to round wins. You really think chrisj is a better entry fragger than sunny just because he has more opening kills, no that just means he goes for the kills more aggressively and early. Better than dupreeh? S1mple? Elige? Brehze? REZ? No those players are just on teams where other players also get entries (beside s1mple, s1mple #1) Getting a kill in a 4v4 is usually more impactful than getting a kill in a 5v5, it sways the round more. The only difference is you dont get an opening kill credit, you can still open the site up, create space and convert the round in the entry role without getting the entry kill. This happens a lot in rounds with early AWP kills. Guardian will get a pick on CT for example and then sunny or s1mple etc will get a multi kill on entry and convert the round. Just because they didnt rush early and take a 1 for 1 (which chrisj does a lot) doesnt mean that they werent a successful entry fragger.
2019-03-05 22:46
#677
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United States Jammin800k 
Think about it this way, if I rushed every round and had tier 1 aim I'd win about 40% of my first fights (because of predictability) now that means id net .4 opening kills per round on average which seems incredible. Until you consider that in a lot of rounds I'm giving up the opening pick quite easily and also starting a lot of rounds as 4v4s (which on CT is always a disadvantage). Therefore just since I have the most entry kills it doesnt mean I'm the best entry fragger.
2019-03-05 22:49
i really cant be fucked to read all of that chris has amazing impact as entry from just watching games and sure maybe he isnt the third best
2019-03-05 22:55
#688
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United States Jammin800k 
He had decent impact as an entry but is in no way an elite entry fragger so please dont present him as one. And it was literally 8 sentences, you're just lazy lol
2019-03-05 23:44
Darn.. you have to be coach/analyst. Or HLTV admin. Reading both comments above was priceless. Finally someone with brain in hltv
2019-03-06 02:26
#708
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United States Jammin800k 
I wish m8, thanks tho ;)
2019-03-06 02:30
#431
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Palestine MrZoldiK 
I think ang1e is better thank karrigan .
2019-03-05 15:20
#721
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United States Jammin800k 
Then why does HR look like garbage after getting a skill upgrade?
2019-03-06 07:40
#732
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Palestine MrZoldiK 
They aren't garbage, but they are inconsistent, (Skill upgrade) , it's only Hobbit , Woxic and Issaa are decent but still new to the big stages , and DeadFox , ...... You should get it .not that big skill upgrade... ,
2019-03-06 08:32
#765
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United States Jammin800k 
Hobbit is a skill upgrade from bondik. Point being they looked better 5 months ago with a weaker lineup on paper. Had 2 months to prepare with a better roster for the major and looked worse than they did before.
2019-03-06 22:05
This team wont work maybe even ruin his career
2019-03-05 14:19
#268
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Denmark Experative 
mouz > HR man. mouz does really well in esl tournaments while hr cant even go most of esl tournaments
2019-03-05 14:25
But you ignore oskar and sunny effects,they are not participant on this team anymore.i dont see any good posibilities with this lineup
2019-03-05 14:39
This
2019-03-05 17:18
I love woxic, really hoping he will stay with HR, this team looks so bad
2019-03-05 17:53
#438
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Palestine MrZoldiK 
Old mouz ..... They won't invite mouz since there are better teams for example . Ence ... Invited to Blast pro series , and you know why ... It's not about names it's about seeding and ranking.
2019-03-05 15:24
Org doesnt mean a shit after you change all of the players. HR > this mouz.
2019-03-05 18:09
+1 oskar should stay.
2019-03-05 14:31
#24
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Europe b7ack0ut 
Pog
2019-03-05 13:55
#25
ile | 
Finland Vkims 
Wtf
2019-03-05 13:55
#26
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Spain Minixx77 
ChrisJ??????????? LOL Where is oskar LMAO
2019-03-05 13:55
#87
ile | 
Finland Vkims 
Bench
2019-03-05 13:59
#109
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United Kingdom XNL 
Benched for ChrisJ. Read the article.
2019-03-05 14:01
#136
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Spain Minixx77 
Too lazy sorry
2019-03-05 14:03
#173
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United States aust_h 
-1
2019-03-05 14:07
#188
NiKo | 
Sweden Flippee 
Oskar is better than ChrisJ ALL DAY LONG
2019-03-05 14:09
#270
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Brazil candymau 
I think its a matter of role and not the player. 2 main awper is never a good idea.
2019-03-05 14:26
#297
oskar | 
Czech Republic Berthod 
Hence makes more sense to keep oskar imo. He is better with awp than ChrisJ. If they get Karrigan, they have Igl. I'm little confused with these changes tbh.
2019-03-05 14:29
oskar can't stay if there will be woxic rip
2019-03-05 14:33
#346
oskar | 
Czech Republic Berthod 
ye, I kind of ignored the fact that woxic is also awper
2019-03-05 14:43
They are only getting woxic because of something going on with oskar
2019-03-05 15:18
Yes - INCONSISTENCY. He's good in few matches and then bad for 2 months.
2019-03-06 02:29
#741
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Czech Republic LIFTY! 
Well there was some kind of internal issues probably. That's maybe the reason why sunny wanted to leave. Oskar is a player which needs perfect mind set to play on god level and when there is some kind of team issues, he cant turn on his god mode. Imho i dont think that chrisJ was able to fit him to the team perfectly. Karrigan maybe could do that but w/e. Imho chrisJ will be dead weight in this team and will be benched again in few months. Frozen can be 2nd ropz, but im not really sure about it. I would love to see him performing well on 1st tier but.. i dunno.. w0xic wasnt so consistent either last few months... Time will tell..
2019-03-06 11:03
Woxic is their main awper why dont you get it
2019-03-05 14:43
#348
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Brazil candymau 
Oskar=Main awper / Woxic=main awper / chrisj = secondary awper. There is a difference between main and secondary. Specially in oskar's case, because he's been playing main awp for too many years. Even if oskar has a better rifler skill, his problem is that he is not used to riflers role and is too old for a change like that (same goes to fallen)
2019-03-05 14:43
Fallen is IGL and yet more consistent than Oscar. Dont compare them both. Fallen is great awper and really good rifler. He has sick aim tbh
2019-03-06 02:31
Hellooooo, woxic? Rings a bell? Main awp? Woxic > oskar
2019-03-05 18:11
#299
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Spain Minixx77 
Ok, but what it has to do with my comment?
2019-03-05 14:30
banched
2019-03-05 16:26
suNny NOOO! RIP MOUZ
2019-03-05 13:55
ye he must have lost his mind why would he do that
2019-03-05 14:40
i think karrigan, ropz, sunny, oskar, frozen could become a great squad... imo chrisj>karrigan but i think for team chemistry this change is needed.
2019-03-05 15:34
-Oskar +Woxic 8/8
2019-03-05 15:50
Woxic better than oskar
2019-03-05 18:11
yeah no doubt on that but i think zhey should bring in a better rifler than Chris, i would love to see Krimz here tbh who stuck in fnatic for so long
2019-03-05 19:05
Agree.
2019-03-05 18:19
Karrigan tilt/choke too easy. He's def not a solution. As an igl he have to be a role model like fallen, gla1ve and aleksib. All of them frag well and have high spirit , meanwhile karrigan is always frustrated and cant frag
2019-03-06 02:34
Karrigan_point_your_erection_in_my_direction_
2019-03-06 06:22
POGPGOPOG WOW SICK LINEUP
2019-03-05 13:55
#30
s1mple | 
Europe SQXZAF 
sad no issa :x
2019-03-05 13:56
Lost my faith in karrigan as an IGL on high level. Hopefully he will consider coaching soon, being an IGL and having so bad individual stats cant work in top tier.
2019-03-05 13:56
#141
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United Kingdom XNL 
I mean outside of Faze he only played for Envy, so I don't think it's fair to say he's dead and buried yet. If this doesn't work out at mouz, then coaching is his next calling.
2019-03-05 14:03
I think his time in Envy improves my point as he in FaZe was surrounded by star players and therefore didnt have the room to get kills, but in Envy the level of his teammates and opponents was significantly worse and still his stats remained the same. If he can't put up bigger numbers in a team like Envy and their matchups i highly doubt he will do a satisfying work in mousesports.
2019-03-05 14:50
#442
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United Kingdom XNL 
But he's only been in Envy since Faze and let's be honest Envy are a joke of a team. I think mouz will truly show if his CS days are over.
2019-03-05 15:25
#593
swag | 
United States Sprewell 
Do you remember him IGL'ing in TSM?
2019-03-05 18:00
Im pretty sure most Csgo pros are really skilled individually (except zeus maybe) but the lack of confidence hurt them the most , after tough loses. Karrigan was a decent fragger when they formed faze , look at him and rest of the faze players rn. Even NiKo is just average lately...they need psychologist just like Astralis to overcome themselves. If you want to win , first learn to lose.
2019-03-06 02:42
if sunny stays over frozen we're cooking with gas
2019-03-05 13:56
#52
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Spain JasonRacism 
SuNny instead of ChrisJ tbh, Already have Karrigan to IGL
2019-03-05 13:57
#281
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India pm_oldmonk 
I think they were forced to bring chris back because of the fact that sunny is leaving.... Ultimately leaving mouz with only ropz from the old lineup.
2019-03-05 14:28
Would be absolutely best case Ontario
2019-03-05 14:04
+1
2019-03-06 00:00
#176
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Denmark belikeme 
Seems like suNny is going to either C9 or ENCE and i dont really think ENCE wants to make any changes, so C9.
2019-03-05 14:08
W0xic insane awper but being from Turkey isnt granted a visa for a lot of events.
2019-03-05 13:56
When u got a big org contract like mouz asking visa u won't get it denied.
2019-03-05 16:43
RIP hr then
2019-03-05 13:56
#36
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Portugal B1az3d 
No karrigan and no chrisj for other teams. Big R.i.P for FaZe
2019-03-05 13:56
Shiiit
2019-03-05 13:56
#40
f0rest | 
Slovakia Zworx 
-oskar is such a bad move imo
2019-03-05 13:56
#79
ile | 
Finland Vkims 
Its not though
2019-03-05 13:59
#94
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Russia Kessiler 
Oskar n sunny to c9?
2019-03-05 14:00
#183
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Denmark belikeme 
Yes
2019-03-05 14:08
No cuz golden os back to c9
2019-03-05 14:27
#286
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Indonesia Astranesia 
-golden then
2019-03-05 14:28
Who will igl ? Oskar or sunny lul
2019-03-05 14:44
#287
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India pm_oldmonk 
Only sunny
2019-03-05 14:28
#296
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India pm_oldmonk 
Judging from the article, -oskar is not a move they were going for... Maybe some internal issues/ lack of motivation for oskar (which has been the case at different points of time last yr)
2019-03-05 14:29
#555
bottle | 
Asia Ace_Y 
twitter.com/CSGOoskar/status/11029295760.. It seems like he initially wanted to stop playing but now decided to continue?
2019-03-05 17:05
#569
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India pm_oldmonk 
hehe .. only they themselves know what's going on ..
2019-03-05 17:24
wtf
2019-03-05 13:57
LUL FROZEN
2019-03-05 13:57
#44
s1mple | 
United States Kilmar 
Wasn't ChrisJ kicked? Where is Oskar?
2019-03-05 13:57
#75
ile | 
Finland Vkims 
Retired
2019-03-05 13:58
#291
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Indonesia Astranesia 
he so old dude
2019-03-05 14:28
#389
oskar | 
Czech Republic OndriX 
27 yo is old? Karigann have 28yo 🙃
2019-03-05 14:55
frozen LUL
2019-03-05 13:57
ur brain lul. frozen will be solid in this team
2019-03-05 18:56
#46
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Turkey who_dis 
omfg
2019-03-05 13:57
NO
2019-03-05 13:57
PogChamp
2019-03-05 13:57
#49
Xyp9x | 
Indonesia Wawzloll 
Finally more made sense +Chrisj -oskar Keep the igl and kick the old veteran awper who wont last much longer
2019-03-05 13:57
I’m more interested in who is keeping IGL and what roles chrisJ will play in tbh. I’d assume karrigan gets IGL, and woxic get’s Primary AWP but where does that leave chrisJ to really shine at >>;
2019-03-05 14:01
Oh i forgot karrigan is there.. Maybe chrisj will be second caller or second awper or even a support
2019-03-05 14:03
I assume Second AWP for sure, though if this does happen I'm so bloody curious as to see how it unfolds
2019-03-05 14:05
Exactly as he should be - he excels in both roles.
2019-03-05 14:05
#312
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India pm_oldmonk 
People often underestimate chrisj as the raw rifler... He has shown time and time again since 2017 (when mouz were among top3), he would entry with rifles along with sunny on multiple maps.... He could open up rounds quite well... Since sunny is gone surely chrisj would be an aggressive component. Ropz has developed into solo anchor/lurk role quite well..
2019-03-05 14:32
I never said chrisJ was a horrible rifle player, I just think that he has far less room to shine with a rifle than on AWP or as IGL. He has decent riflers, but I don't think I'd call him one of the best (They could likely find better riflers if that was what they were going for). Just curious to see how it works out.
2019-03-05 14:36
#331
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India pm_oldmonk 
Yeah that's true... But he's experienced, still relevant in the scene, will be a familiar face for ropz in a new lineup, and has the skill to succeed in multiple roles... They need atleast one other senior player with karrigan to make it a stable team.... . It will take time for them to get going.. I hope they get in shape till next major.
2019-03-05 14:40
I dont get why they bench oskar .... woxic is good , but oskar is decent enough
2019-03-05 13:57
#68
ile | 
Finland Vkims 
Oskar so old
2019-03-05 13:58
#191
NiKo | 
Sweden Flippee 
Same age as Guardian. Guardian is still top 3 in world
2019-03-05 14:10
#203
ile | 
Finland Vkims 
Lol You cant compare oskar to guardian
2019-03-05 14:13
#227
NiKo | 
Sweden Flippee 
You can’t use age as an excuse than. Guardian is also 27 so stop use age as a reason.
2019-03-05 14:17
#233
ile | 
Finland Vkims 
Why not? Because guardian is still good so that means oskar must be good too? People are different you know?
2019-03-05 14:18
#512
NiKo | 
Sweden Flippee 
yes but you said he is bad because he is old. Don't you know English? "Oskar so old" you are using old as an excuse
2019-03-05 16:20
you know oskar was in top 20 hltv in 2018 ! he is still good man !
2019-03-05 22:05
#674
ile | 
Finland Vkims 
Its 2019 now....
2019-03-05 22:33
You can. They are old tm8s... They are on the same skill lvl. Oskar is still rising up but guardian is dropping...And there is pretty big chance that Oskar will play for Faze, because Oskar used to be a rifler and in CZ/SK interview month ago both said that once they would like to play togather again. Dont know why Finnish players are always trashtalking.
2019-03-05 14:30
#305
ile | 
Finland Vkims 
Im sorry that I hurt your feelings Pls dont cry
2019-03-05 14:32
what??
2019-03-05 15:41
#53
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North America Techno_Lover 
Frozen? Uhh, yeah lets see about that.
2019-03-05 13:57
+1 my friend Like i want our boys to be good and in good teams, but i dont see Frozen as a good player who would be good for mouz atm. I wonder why they didnt pick someone from Valiance since they are all great imo.
2019-03-07 15:42
"are preparing for life without Miikka "suNny" Kemppi" :DDDDDDDDD
2019-03-05 13:57
wait oskar is benched????
2019-03-05 13:58
#58
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United Kingdom Mumbles! 
Guess karrigan will IGL and Chris to Rifle?
2019-03-05 13:58
#64
ile | 
Finland Vkims 
Ofc
2019-03-05 13:58
#162
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Israel wetz 
Awp
2019-03-05 14:05
Man woxic awp
2019-03-05 14:44
#357
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Israel wetz 
Oh ok i forgot,ty
2019-03-05 14:45
chris 2nd awp/rifle the man has huge skill btw and imagine if he could focus on killing not igling
2019-03-05 14:53
no, karrigan star player and Cj igl
2019-03-07 15:43
LMAO pls no Karrigan
2019-03-05 13:58
-oskar? LOL they're mad
2019-03-05 13:58
#62
NAF | 
Russia avedanya 
Frozen is a good choice, just learn him to be patient. He's like s1mple when he was young.
2019-03-05 13:58
Top10 confirmed, As long as they end like FaZeShItClAn
2019-03-05 13:58
this lineup wont accomplish anything with frozen on board
2019-03-05 13:58
People said the same about ropz, frozen had been showing good colors in lower rankings and is young enough that if put under the right guidances he can become great.
2019-03-05 14:03
There are much better and more experienced players than frozen playing in the lower leagues. Just look at his stats its nothing impressive
2019-03-05 14:04
Watching him play is different than just watching his stats and their growth. There is obviously something about his style that is attractive to mousesports I'll say it again: People said the same thing about ropz and imminent failure. frozen is less of a risk than rope was and has been playing well in NoChance (In my opinion one of the best teams not in the Top 30) and generally is their most consistent player. I think there ARE better lower-tier players (huNter for instance), however I think that frozen is one of the better choices.
2019-03-05 14:13
what!? rip mouz if they chose to go this way...
2019-03-05 13:58
and what about coach
2019-03-05 13:58
Oskar kicked lol
2019-03-05 13:58
#77
Davidp | 
Sweden meistr0 
DAAAMN, that would be a cool team. But only if they keep SuNny & Ropz (-Oskar to HR) If this happen Mouz got a new fan, 100%
2019-03-05 14:08
#78
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United States DervGuy 
WTF IS HAPPENING
2019-03-05 13:59
Wow
2019-03-05 13:59
if you keep your igl then dont get karrigan lol, he is a bot individually
2019-03-05 13:59
#103
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United States DervGuy 
Pretty sure Karrigan will IGL, and ChrisJ will entry.
2019-03-05 14:00
then you have many better (and younger) individuals than chrisj
2019-03-05 14:03
#149
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United States DervGuy 
True, I don't know who they would pick up though.
2019-03-05 14:04
#161
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Latvia 4swen4 
+1
2019-03-05 14:05
What
2019-03-05 13:59
Hahahahahahahahaha mouz trolling big hahahaha So who has more money? Big or mouz guys?
2019-03-05 13:59
Mouz without a doubt...
2019-03-05 14:01
OMFG - wet dream!
2019-03-05 13:59
#86
ZywOo | 
Netherlands itsm 
Who will IGL WHO WILL AWP? QUESTIONS? ANSWERSSS
2019-03-05 13:59
#92
ile | 
Finland Vkims 
You stupid? Woxic awp Karrigan igl
2019-03-05 13:59
#441
ZywOo | 
Netherlands itsm 
CHRISJ IS A BETTER IGL THAN KARRIGAN AND BETTER AWPER THAN WOXIC.. HENCE MY QUESTION..
2019-03-05 15:25
#446
ile | 
Finland Vkims 
No he is not lol
2019-03-05 15:31
You sir, are stunned.
2019-03-06 00:07
#88
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France Zul1988 
All teams doing such a chit right now..
2019-03-05 13:59
#89
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Poland Astoner55 
WTF
2019-03-05 13:59
#90
Laz | 
Russia kamazot 
wtf
2019-03-05 13:59
#93
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United States DervGuy 
RIP HR, ISSAA WILL LEAVE SOON
2019-03-05 14:00
I don't see them doing great stuff without suNny & STYKO, these two created so much space on the map for mouz, it will be hard to replace them. Especially since none of their replacements have the same skills or used to do what they did. Edit: Also wtf is mouz doing. They just shit the bed at the major because they didnt practice hard enough. They went in chilling asf. They had an amazing team...
2019-03-05 14:02
Thats true
2019-03-05 14:02
#432
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World bigb1rd 
This all just seems a massive mess to me. SuNny is one of the best rifler in the world and almost irreplaceable considering who is available. Karrigan and Chris on one team won't work. ChrisJ is solid, just let him lead. Anyway, shame to see such an exciting team fall apart like this, no wonder no-one is challenging Astralis, they all just change players or IGLs etc as soon as they have a bad tournament. No-one is willing to stick together, bond as a team and work on their issues.
2019-03-05 15:21
#651
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United States Jammin800k 
I think you need to chill at the end, mouz was together as 5 for 15 months and about 12 big tier 1 events. They had seen the peaks and troughs of that lineup enough to know it was never going to be a consistent top 3 team. I agree that they should have practiced harder for the major but that has to fall on coaching and leadership doesnt it? You cant just claim there are problems and then say "God damn why dont teams just work through them" not every problem is fixable between those 5, roster changes are the answer sometimes
2019-03-05 20:41
#96
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Europe Freeburger97 
-chrisj +chrisj -chrisj +chrisj
2019-03-05 14:00
WOXIC IN TIER 1 COLLECTIVE POGCHAMPPPPPPPPPPPPPP
2019-03-05 14:00
Seriously is he good enough
2019-03-10 18:50
coach?
2019-03-05 14:00
SuNny insted karrigan will be perfect
2019-03-05 14:00
#565
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Canada Sharkey3322 
+1
2019-03-05 17:17
#101
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Turkey CHAMPTZ 
Thats gold :O
2019-03-05 14:00
pgl major krakow? xDDDD u drunk boi?
2019-03-05 14:00
You're right
2019-03-05 14:01
"PGL major krakow" I aren't think that
2019-03-05 14:01
#107
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Europe Ru1n 
pls no karrigan
2019-03-05 14:01
#110
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Germany Constikdw 
Ez for ChrisJ But I wonder what his role will be as he won’t be awper nor igl...probably 2nd awp/support so he’ll take stykos roles
2019-03-05 14:02
meh
2019-03-05 14:01
Why chrisj and karrigan??
2019-03-05 14:01
#121
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Europe god_of_hltv 
Frozen is overrated af
2019-03-05 14:02
rip mouz if confirmed
2019-03-05 14:02
So mouz want two igls and two not much impactful rifles + woxic who is not showing much in last months... I now know why sunny wants to leave lol
2019-03-05 14:02
I know why you are tilted just cuz they kicked oskar lol
2019-03-05 14:13
#247
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Czech Republic esmo52 
Jezus, turkish woxic instead of Oskar. What a nonsence
2019-03-05 14:21
Cry here brazzer
2019-03-05 14:29
woxic is the smallest ,,problem" here (maybe his english is), but i know that you are tilted bcs i used nickname of some irrelevant player from east
2019-03-05 14:37
>Woxic >comm problem with English Pick one
2019-03-05 14:42
I pick oskar not kebab
2019-03-05 18:30
Western slavs mad
2019-03-05 21:59
#125
720 | 
Faroe Islands sGaen 
pog
2019-03-05 14:02
Did your tactics suddenly stop working? Just bring another IGL - more brains more wisdom
2019-03-05 14:02
karrigan + chrisj bad idea.
2019-03-05 14:02
+chirsj -chrisj +chrisj -chrisj +chrisj
2019-03-05 14:03
w0xic wtf ?????? richest turk in the world now. what is chrisj doing on that team. w0xic would be the main awper and chrisj sucks as a rifler.
2019-03-05 14:05
#397
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Finland kommunisti 
Worked well enough with oskar as primary awp. ChrisJ is a good rifler actually
2019-03-05 14:58
#137
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Slovakia gayzera 
god
2019-03-05 14:03
#140
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Bulgaria mango_csgo 
ChrisJ was always a strong fragger. Even as IGL he was fragging well. The lineup looks good but i have doubts on frozen. i havent see anything good from frozen. Ropz was talented and he proved it with mousesports
2019-03-05 14:03
lmao
2019-03-05 14:03
#143
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Brazil kinzee 
-frozen
2019-03-05 14:03
Umm wtf they weren't top 8 at PGL? Wtf they were top 8 at Faceit London major. Please fix.
2019-03-05 14:04
#150
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CIS LRtx 
tier1000000000000000000000000
2019-03-05 14:04
-frozen +HS Please
2019-03-05 14:04
hs is the worst player in EU.
2019-03-05 14:05
Xizt?
2019-03-05 14:05
HS
2019-03-05 14:06
Zeus?
2019-03-05 14:06
#260
shox | 
Vietnam KR1MEZ 
ZEUS aint eu player
2019-03-05 14:24
ex6tenz?
2019-03-05 14:27
HS in optic (the european mix) was really good.
2019-03-05 15:53
"What do you do when you find yourself in a hole? You keep digging" - Mousesports 2019. GG.
2019-03-05 14:04
#349
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Czech Republic DemoroCZ 
+1.. Mouz be like "Hmmm what should we do? Get rid of our best players? Great idea!"
2019-03-05 14:43
kariggan is bad
2019-03-05 14:05
#160
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Brazil Merrin 
so... mouz +karrigan +woxic +frozen +chrisJ -sunny -oskar Cloud9 +sunny Hellraisers +oskar or +styko
2019-03-05 14:05
#192
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Russia griskarD 
Styko 100% will not be in HellRaisers. XAOC (CEO HR) does not communicate well
2019-03-05 14:10
you forgot -chrisJ +chrisJ on mouz. Also C9 would be more powerful without RUSH, I wish flusha stayed but... he has his reasons I respect.
2019-03-05 14:15
#163
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World Nydhogg 
Sunny to ENCE? that's neat
2019-03-05 14:05
#168
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Israel wetz 
Sunny to c9 confirmed 😎
2019-03-05 14:06
AMAZING
2019-03-05 14:06
why kick oskar wtf?
2019-03-05 14:07
Because he is BOT
2019-03-05 14:16
#174
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Belgium Garytion 
Nice . Chrisj return . I like this new roster. But i hope karrigan be better
2019-03-05 14:07
oskar back to hr?
2019-03-05 14:08
wow amazing :) gl guys!
2019-03-05 14:08
No suNny? Shitttt
2019-03-05 14:08
#187
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Portugal kanezz 
he is joining C9
2019-03-05 14:09
Ik but I don't want him to I love suNny
2019-03-05 14:10
#196
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Portugal kanezz 
yhea i agree, if sunny stays on mouse, damn this line-up would be pretty strong, W0xic Karrigan SunNy ChrisJ ropz DAMN BOI
2019-03-05 14:11
-Karrigan +ISSA would be OP
2019-03-05 14:20
and igl is where wtf?
2019-03-05 14:39
chrisj
2019-03-05 16:33
that could actually work
2019-03-05 14:29
what??????
2019-03-05 14:08
Budget FaZe
2019-03-05 14:08
#184
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Portugal kanezz 
ISSA instead of frozen
2019-03-05 14:08
POG
2019-03-05 14:08
Live footage of mouz handling with care their roster moves : media.giphy.com/media/yvX27dqQpCesw/giph..
2019-03-05 14:10
#205
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Russia RIMJOBOB 
is rush bad or something? he won a major tho and isnt he igl?
2019-03-05 14:13
#189
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Kazakhstan dc7 
2 best german orgs signed 2 best turkish players
2019-03-05 14:09
#193
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Bulgaria mango_csgo 
chrisj ropz xantares woxic Karrigan
2019-03-05 14:10
Classic -chrisj +chrisj
2019-03-05 14:11
#195
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Finland de_suomi 
I'll give this line-up 3 months.
2019-03-05 14:11
Karrigan & chrisJ? And woxic? So they already have an IGL and an AWPer, why keep chrisJ?
2019-03-05 14:11
#198
Romania jDT 
with karrigan they need to improve to have very good aimers to carry Karrigan also
2019-03-05 14:11
lmao bad team
2019-03-05 14:12
#201
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Poland zJe 
What a weird line up
2019-03-05 14:12
#202
sergej | 
Finland jUPPE! 
I see no chance for top tier for this team. But this team could be a great chance for frozen to show his worth and make name for himself. Ropz should get out as soon as possbile when he gets an offer from a good team.
2019-03-05 14:20
yeah idk about this one
2019-03-05 14:13
no sunny no win
2019-03-05 14:13
Nice Oskar out. Nice move mouse (stupid move)
2019-03-05 14:13
frozen hmmmm
2019-03-05 14:14
cris and karrigan in same team, wtf why they need 2 igls?
2019-03-05 14:14
#213
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Europe rafaumarcisz 
why would you want ChrisJ and Karrigan in one team, they're both IGLs
2019-03-05 14:15
#229
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Denmark pistolen 
So CrisJ can be the starplayer he is
2019-03-05 14:17
#254
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Europe rafaumarcisz 
But as starplayer wouldn't he prefer to be am awper?
2019-03-05 14:23
#375
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Denmark pistolen 
I guess so, but don't you think he is a better main awp than woxic? or what?
2019-03-05 14:51
I am really sad because of Oskar and Sunny. Mouz were retarded because they destroyed one of the most succesful line up only because of one fucking major... But this line up is without future. Frozen - Really good, he will play for the huge organization ChrisJ - Veteran Karrigan - Veteran Woxic - Same as Oskar few years ago... from HR to mouz, also star player of HR, also sniper Ropz - Waste of time for him... He should play with Oskar and Sunny GL Mouz, R.I.P super super talented roster (some people hates mouz but anyway... they were top 1/2 international team.
2019-03-05 14:15
wtf is happening with all the roster moves LUL, such a shit show
2019-03-05 14:16
-frozen and get issaa for god sake how do you wanna build a team around a guy who legit chokes everytime on lan
2019-03-05 14:16
#546
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Spain Miki2K 
Ikr, woxic is a choking dogshit
2019-03-05 16:58
WTF is this lineup? Super unexpected tbh
2019-03-05 14:16
#224
NiKo | 
Poland Jaruzel 
Weird team, I don't think chrisj is good enough to be a primary awper, would rather like to see oskar instead.
2019-03-05 14:17
#259
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Europe rafaumarcisz 
Woxic is awper u know?
2019-03-05 14:23
#532
NiKo | 
Poland Jaruzel 
So why do they need Chris? karriganis going to IGL. This makes no sense.
2019-03-05 16:40
#723
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United States Jammin800k 
Chrisj is a solid entry. They need to sell someone to get woxic. Seems like oskar is unmotivated again.
2019-03-06 07:48
#225
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Denmark pistolen 
KEEP SUNNY AND LET FROZEN GO PLZ
2019-03-05 14:17
wtf
2019-03-05 14:17
#230
s1mple | 
Europe SQXZAF 
lul prodka where?
2019-03-05 14:18
about time oskar was dropped one of the most overrated players in counter strike history
2019-03-05 14:18
"fan of smooya" Oskar is an insane awp and a really solid player Lightyears ahead of smooya anyway
2019-03-05 15:56
Oskar is an insane awp have you heard yourself? Biggest exit and anti eco fragger known to man obviously he'll look good, minimal impact kills
2019-03-05 16:57
lmao oskar is one of the most impactfull awpers ingame. Uk and delusional. Most common duo. Never fails to upset.
2019-03-05 17:46
lmao you're a mong bro
2019-03-05 18:06
#724
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United States Jammin800k 
0/8 if you mention eco kills
2019-03-06 07:48
rip mouz officially :(
2019-03-05 14:19
#236
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Czech Republic Interhofer 
No oskar, no party
2019-03-05 14:19
#237
tarik | 
Turkey Kebait 
-frozen +ISSAA
2019-03-05 14:19
wtf, keep sunny and don't bring in fucking karrigan, are they mad? why would sunny even want to move to some shitty na team, damn it rip my mouz, I will miss you
2019-03-05 14:20
#246
sergej | 
Finland jUPPE! 
Maybe he thinks this team is beyond repair.
2019-03-05 14:21
well, looking at what they have done to it, it definitely looks shit now, but c9? c'mon, they won't go anywhere
2019-03-05 14:25
2 awp 1 overrated kid 1 washed up igl ???? Too risky
2019-03-05 14:19
Quick maths
2019-03-09 03:18
OMG BAD TEAM NO WOXIC NO
2019-03-05 14:20
WTF WHY WOULD YOU KICK YOUR 2 STAR PLAYERS OMFG. ok Sunny got offer i got that but why oskar? :( who tf is doing their managment...
2019-03-05 14:20
2 of the best players list in 2018
2019-03-05 14:22
Tilted oskar fan lol
2019-03-05 14:22
Ye i don't understand this swap -oskar +woxic but ok atleast we'll have streams hopefully
2019-03-05 14:43
I predicted woxic`s transfer from hellraisers
2019-03-05 14:20
#248
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Europe jeff69 
riiiight i forgot what happened to that frozen kid... good to see hes getting a big chance now.
2019-03-05 14:21
Wonder what role chrisj would fill,entry maybe? woxic AWPer and karrigan igl.This could be a pretty strong team
2019-03-05 14:22
#251
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Slovakia TatKo 
Kinda downgrade
2019-03-05 14:22
#255
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Sweden f4k3r12 
EZ for frozen
2019-03-05 14:23
#256
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Australia Mr.Sinister 
Thought Faze would try for sunNy tbh. If C9 get him that would be a waste of his career. Drop Adren bring in suNny. Unless Ez4ence return -Aerial +suNny
2019-03-05 14:23
FaZe huNter soon
2019-03-05 14:27
#257
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Spain akproxx 
Nooo sunny why
2019-03-05 14:23
ISSAA WOXIC ROPZ SUNNY CHRISJ
2019-03-05 14:23
Thats a banger
2019-03-05 14:25
let frozen try achive sth with NoChance they r good ropz, sunny, oskar, karigan, woxic
2019-03-05 14:26
#262
GuardiaN | 
Slovakia Ajko 
ez4 god frozen
2019-03-05 14:24
Poor sunNy
2019-03-05 14:24
LOOL karrigan will ruin this team too
2019-03-05 14:25
Oskar > Woxic .. this move is totally nonsense
2019-03-05 14:25
#415
oskar | 
Czech Republic PaYaB 
they're on a similar level imo, but woxic has his visa "issues" on the top of it.
2019-03-05 15:13
no way, woxic>oskar
2019-03-05 15:56
#269
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Europe dip6o 
I'm excited to see what they will bring. But anyway,not a fan of both Chris and Finn in the same roster. Selling Chris to Big mb?
2019-03-05 14:25
#274
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Russia Zel0cE 
GL ,bad old mouse version i love biggest
2019-03-05 14:27
#275
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India INDIANGUY 
Good lineup not all starts like faze Chrisj to play support imo
2019-03-05 14:27
#276
heikkoL | 
Czech Republic MSQT 
-sunny -oskar ha:HHA:A:HAha:H
2019-03-05 14:27
RIP oskar
2019-03-05 14:27
no oskar no party
2019-03-05 14:27
no nuke shotgun :'(
2019-03-05 14:28
:( REST IN PEPERONI
2019-03-05 14:29
Godxic
2019-03-05 14:28
smooya + hellraisers
2019-03-05 14:28
#283
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Slovakia FlixSK 
look who is mouse fan xd
2019-03-05 14:28
#284
Morocco 1M1 
nonsaens karrigan and chris igls
2019-03-05 14:28
omfg good team
2019-03-05 14:28
wait what
2019-03-05 14:28
#298
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Russia Sur10n 
Damn... WOW, that's a PogU, i wish this lineup make it to tier 1
2019-03-05 14:29
#301
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Brazil bandicoot 
ozgur is oscar in turkish, did you guys realize that?
2019-03-05 14:31
ROFL
2019-03-05 14:46
Woxic GOD frozen n karrigan BOT
2019-03-05 14:31
im actually hyped for this, this frozen kid looks like a prospect and karrigan into the team could make a pretty interesting structure
2019-03-05 14:31
why 2 awpers with chrisj and woxic? and if they get karrigan they dont need chrisj as a caller. i dont understand these guys
2019-03-05 14:32
Finally overrated Oscar get's benched :), but IMO they should get hunter instead of frozen
2019-03-05 14:32
Call me crazy, but I think this lineup might do some good damage. Good luck boys.
2019-03-05 14:32
wtf is mouz doing?whats the point wasting money on woxic if you have oskar who is = with woxic or slightly better,frozen good pick up but chrisj and karrigan in same team + woxic so woxic main sniper and chrisj useless
2019-03-05 14:32
POGGERS
2019-03-05 14:32
#311
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Turkey Thunderball 
POGGERS
2019-03-05 14:32
#315
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Brazil candymau 
It feels like crisJ addition was not planned... But when sunny wanted to leave they had to fill the spot with someone...
2019-03-05 14:34
i think chrisj will leave karigan lead
2019-03-05 14:34
#318
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Europe trey_ 
pog
2019-03-05 14:35
#321
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Poland kRAMERO 
bringing TAZ into the lineup would be best solution for mouz. pure Leader with so much knowledge. FaZe didnt pick him and what happens? They didnt even go into quarters
2019-03-05 14:36
>Taz >add mouz/faze Pick one
2019-03-05 14:37
#355
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Poland kRAMERO 
bro imagine woxic and Taz in one team. top5 easy
2019-03-05 14:44
#344
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Switzerland T4NGY_ 
no one wants ur washed up players, he's shit individually and hasn't been good for years within VP. no ty
2019-03-05 14:43
#384
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Poland kRAMERO 
TAZ is such a big calibre player that can fit in any team in europe now. Mby besides Astralis
2019-03-05 14:54
#450
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Switzerland T4NGY_ 
Wow hardly saw such a desilusional fanboy, gratz on taking the trophy i guess.
2019-03-05 15:34
#477
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Poland kRAMERO 
0/8 gratz on taking the gr8 b8 m8
2019-03-05 15:49
#479
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Switzerland T4NGY_ 
u took mine actually 8/8
2019-03-05 15:49
#482
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Poland kRAMERO 
lets go for draw
2019-03-05 15:50
#483
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Switzerland T4NGY_ 
cheers
2019-03-05 15:50
#323
s1mple | 
Austria Aimy 
Sunny?:/
2019-03-05 14:37
i can take woxic on mm, he has a awp aim like a nova.
2019-03-05 14:38
and call him hacker and report for aim assist?
2019-03-05 14:48
Hahahahahahaha u made my day
2019-03-05 14:55
ahahahahauhsdhDHFDsjhdafhasjhgadfagsdhaguhHHAHAAHAHAHAHA no.
2019-03-05 15:58
-ropz +sunny
2019-03-05 14:39
Why have chrisj, woxic and karrigan in the same team, makes no sense
2019-03-05 14:40
#335
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Brazil hugoooo 
Karrigan will be de IGL, woxic the main awp. I'm not sure about chrisj.
2019-03-05 14:41
#340
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Switzerland T4NGY_ 
entry & 2nd awper
2019-03-05 14:42
if so I would -chrisj +oskar or -karrigan +oskar keep chrisj as IGL
2019-03-05 15:41
#473
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Switzerland T4NGY_ 
why the hell would you want oksar and woxic in the same team ? woxic > oskar, just replace oskar by woxic and ur fine.
2019-03-05 15:45
cuz u dont need two low-firepower IGL in the same team?
2019-03-05 16:08
#510
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Switzerland T4NGY_ 
if chris is not leading his level will rise, meanwhile you either fuck up woxic or oskar if you have them in the same team. also chris is not low fragging quiet the opposite for an igl that does entry fragging so good.
2019-03-05 16:11
#748
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Czech Republic Jacksson 
oskar doesnt want to leave so he would pick opening/2nd AWP role If they 'd offer him
2019-03-06 13:22
#762
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Switzerland T4NGY_ 
would be severe waste of time and talent.
2019-03-06 18:13
+1
2019-03-05 14:48
#378
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Brazil bandicoot 
woxic main awp chris and karrigan 4th and 5th AUG
2019-03-05 14:52
#333
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Brazil hugoooo 
Fucking cool lineup
2019-03-05 14:40
#336
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Switzerland T4NGY_ 
Well this confirms the suNny to C9 move. woxic is way better than oksar so no probleme there, frozen is one of the most underrated talent in EU, and chrisJ could step up individually due to not being forced to lead. ropz = Lurker woxic = Main AWPer karrigan = IGL & Support frozen = Revenge Fragger ( Cleaner ) chrisJ = Entry Fragger & 2nd AWPer ez TOP5.
2019-03-05 14:41
#457
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Brazil hugoooo 
"Revenge Fragger ( Cleaner )" hahahahahahahah
2019-03-05 15:38
#472
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Switzerland T4NGY_ 
yo follow me there, there 4 roles in cs games, support + awper + entry + lurker. The 5th guy usually is in the attack trio, the guy right behind an entry if often just called a rifler, idk for other scene but in the French scene we call that a cleaner. ScreaM is at his best doing this for exemple. gyazo.com/8aa06d2cc5cea0a702c330decffb8e.. hltv.org/news/24037/scream-i-dont-know-i.. other player falling in that category are magisk, electronic, fer ( right now ), f0rest ect ect.
2019-03-05 15:44
Tier2 team.
2019-03-05 14:42
would not help
2019-03-05 14:43
#353
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Netherlands WitnessMe 
@MIRAA, Any talks about the coach, or will LMBT remain?
2019-03-05 14:44
#354
Jame | 
China LoeJuan 
at least FaZe with Karrigan are better than now
2019-03-05 14:44
#356
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New Zealand tyfnz 
-Frozen +huNter
2019-03-05 14:45
#360
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Sweden f4k3r12 
0/10
2019-03-05 14:46
My dick is rock solid
2019-03-05 14:45
#359
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Turkey Mertcursed 
POGGERS
2019-03-05 14:46
#361
ANGE1 | 
Russia monte:) 
Why the hell they've chosen karrigan and chris? Would be much better if: woxic ropz ANGE1 ISSAA frozen
2019-03-05 14:46
#388
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Norway PeteZz 
Wtf? Hellraiser are shit. How the hell would this lineup be better?
2019-03-05 14:55
top 5 all the time
2019-03-05 14:57
#362
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Denmark minosss 
shit team
2019-03-05 14:46
#364
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Other Mukade 
No way this would work. Karrigan /chrisJ not enough firepower Frozen is unproven and will have to adapt so you can’t expect much from him immediately. Woxic is a great player with firepower Ropz underwhelming but can hopefully step up.
2019-03-05 14:47
Oskar or smooya to HR
2019-03-05 14:47
#366
ropz | 
Finland Sandels 
tier 2
2019-03-05 14:47
remember when everybody thought that new line up will be oskar, sunny, ropz, karrigan and valde? but mouz org is smarter LUL
2019-03-05 14:47
#401
oskar | 
Czech Republic OndriX 
Mouz getting madness, bench Oskar (i thing Best player of mouz) and take woxic? Woxic have good k/d ratio because hellraisers playing mostly small events lul
2019-03-05 15:03
#749
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Czech Republic Jacksson 
He has better k/d ratio on Big events aswel
2019-03-06 13:28
#409
oskar | 
Czech Republic PaYaB 
+1
2019-03-05 15:09
+1 all fucked up
2019-03-05 15:38
#370
s1mple | 
Germany NatsuS 
Chrisj back didn't expect less from Mr.mouz
2019-03-05 14:48
#371
mrhui | 
Japan CDstoy 
Frozen 2019 LUL
2019-03-05 14:49
deadfox to astralis!?!?!?!?
2019-03-05 14:50
FROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOZEN
2019-03-05 14:51
Ozgur OMEGALUL
2019-03-05 14:51
#381
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Denmark fm100 
Desperation move honestly
2019-03-05 14:53
#382
s1mple | 
Ukraine d3adLY 
Frozen is shit Oskar :(
2019-03-05 14:54
frozen is good stfu
2019-03-05 14:56
#461
s1mple | 
Ukraine d3adLY 
he is stupid kid
2019-03-05 15:40
Same applies to you, but at least he can speak English
2019-03-05 23:37
#754
s1mple | 
Ukraine d3adLY 
But i am better in cs
2019-03-06 15:04
#385
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Norway PeteZz 
HOLY shit
2019-03-05 14:54
oskar?
2019-03-05 14:56
WOXIC GOAT 🐐
2019-03-05 14:57
lol cut suNNy?? he is like your best player and he's a future top 10 player in the world what are you thinking mouz????
2019-03-05 15:00
#406
NBK- | 
Czech Republic matymon 
I think he wants to leave for cloud9, so it's not their choice
2019-03-05 15:05
he's under contract, so yes, it's mouz's choice
2019-03-05 15:09
#435
NBK- | 
Czech Republic matymon 
yeah I know but if he wants to go, they will let him
2019-03-05 15:22
How exactly can you keep a guy in your line-up that wants out? Sounds toxic..
2019-03-06 00:39
same as in every other sports
2019-03-06 08:29
definately wasnt a literal question, read again. It was more a "who the fuck would want a whiney bitch in the line up that doesnt want to be there." Same as in every other sport.. Yeah, hence why teams go to SHIT when guys act like that.
2019-03-06 16:54
#734
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Austria gex0r 
+when you can make a bunch of money out of it
2019-03-06 08:40
#403
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Poland Sad_Boy 
Botriggan axaxaxa.
2019-03-05 15:03
#404
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Turkey ao1 
Wtf lol
2019-03-05 15:05
#405
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Poland Hell2k 
this team is even worse than old mouz lul tier 3
2019-03-05 15:05
#407
oskar | 
Czech Republic PaYaB 
-sunny ??? -oskar ??? Why would you cut 2 best players that remained in the "2018" core which was the most succesfull in their cs history? Why would you bench chrisJ , if you're planning on to add him next month? And if u add woxic, you have expect visa issues. I think they should add karrigan and maybe frozen with the trio that remained after the minor...
2019-03-05 15:08
#486
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Czech Republic Archengel 
Exactly!
2019-03-05 15:52
#735
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Austria gex0r 
sunny will be bought out by C9 i've no idea what's the thing with oskar. but this guy has been benched/kicked by teams several times despite his insane skills. i guess he must be a difficult person to handle.
2019-03-06 08:41
😱😭 #DDPC #🚜
2019-03-05 15:09
#414
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Denmark ta1ket 
Triple awp?
2019-03-05 15:13
#425
Ax1Le | 
Russia A1eks 
Yes)So shit
2019-03-05 15:15
#416
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Netherlands BigMarvin 
+Karrigan -Karrigan
2019-03-05 15:13
#418
oskar | 
Czech Republic PaYaB 
No oskar, no oskarsports, no trophies :)
2019-03-05 15:14
#423
Ax1Le | 
Russia A1eks 
++++1111
2019-03-05 15:15
#419
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Slovakia zephh1337 
mouz frozen let's go
2019-03-05 15:14
#420
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United States FlagMaster 
+chrisJ -chrisJ +chrisJ -chrisJ +chrisJ Classic move
2019-03-05 15:14
#422
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United States FlagMaster 
Also #420 score!
2019-03-05 15:15
#632
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Estonia Kakapepu 
the classic have you tried turning it on and off again move :D
2019-03-05 19:12
#663
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United States FlagMaster 
+7
2019-03-05 21:14
#421
Ax1Le | 
Russia A1eks 
WTF?OMG
2019-03-05 15:14
Bad lineup. Chrisj and Karrigan in the same team is a bad bad idea
2019-03-05 15:19
+1
2019-03-05 15:35
#433
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Poland Miichu 
Sunny c9 ;P
2019-03-05 15:21
#434
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United States Detached 
now w0xic can join a team that speaks english
2019-03-05 15:22
#737
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Finland f0pZ 
and they need to find a stand in for many tournaments bcuz hes turkish (visa issues) lol
2019-03-06 09:07
-karrigan +Valde Ez top3
2019-03-05 15:22
wow
2019-03-05 15:25
#445
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Turkey brss 
Oskar > Woxic. Woxic should have gone to BiG for sniper role and Tabsen back to rifler/second awp.
2019-03-05 15:25
i am mouz fan but woxic>>>>>>>>>Oscar
2019-03-05 15:38
why the fuck would you keep chrisj if you have karrigan and woxic
2019-03-05 15:33
You can't kick chrisj man, he's gonna stay in mouz for the rest of his life lmao
2019-03-05 15:38
But he is so useless now since he isn't igl neither he is an awper. What else can he play lmao
2019-03-05 15:41
I agree, I hope he gets kicked, he is washed up
2019-03-05 15:58
If - oskar I will stop cheering for mousesports... I see hopes in: oskar ropz suNNy huNter (Valiance) LETN1 (Valiance) IGL
2019-03-05 15:36
#529
oskar | 
Czech Republic PaYaB 
Probably same, i've been fan of them since 2016 and huge fan since PGL Krakow, but these roster moves are just stupid imo.
2019-03-05 16:35
oskar to navi inc
2019-03-05 15:36
-sunny +karrigan? wow.. fucking joke
2019-03-05 15:37
That's actually some really strong up and coming players, really like the move. A shame that they couldn't keep suNNy instead of being stuck with chrisJ, but I think this can be just as good in the long run if they give the young players some time to grow.
2019-03-05 15:39
karrigan is a BOT
2019-03-05 15:41
#464
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United States Trump2020KAG 
Woxic needs a better team. Why karrigan and ChrisJ.
2019-03-05 15:43
Tier 2
2019-03-05 15:42
#468
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Sweden REVZy 
Rip Maikeleles team.. agian
2019-03-05 15:42
#469
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Turkey CamelotzZz 
Looks good tho Big should pick up Oskar instead Xantares or Tizian.
2019-03-05 15:43
#474
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Europe GlubalGod 
look bad... 2igl, karrigan bad af
2019-03-05 15:47
wrong reply
2019-03-05 16:01
#682
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Turkey CamelotzZz 
Karrigan good igl bad player but he is the guy who can teach how to play with brain to frozen and ropz. ChrisJ was good with awp still not better than oskar but i think there is internal problems with oskar idk if he is flaming.
2019-03-05 23:27
"oskar instead of XANTARES or tizian" HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH made my day lmao
2019-03-05 16:01
#471
woxic | 
Turkey 3nqin 
gl woxic
2019-03-05 15:44
#475
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Europe trouble91 
Make it happen mouz PLEAASE
2019-03-05 15:47
pls no karrigan
2019-03-05 15:48
Bad play.
2019-03-05 15:49
#485
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Venezuela Psyccoz 
-karrigan +flusha
2019-03-05 15:52
#487
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Sweden ScineLy1 
-frozen +flusha
2019-03-05 15:53
really bad move now mouz gonna be free from trophies, for good
2019-03-05 15:53
#490
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Poland Astoner55 
Why keeping ChrisJ If you have Woxic and Karrigan? Isn't it better to sign Flusha or just keep Sunny? wtf
2019-03-05 15:54
#499
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Europe trouble91 
+1
2019-03-05 16:00
#648
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United States Jammin800k 
You ever consider that selling sunny is how they're able to afford woxic and frozen?
2019-03-05 20:28
#652
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Poland Astoner55 
Frozen is free, W0xic surely doesn't cost as much as Sunny
2019-03-05 20:44
#656
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United States Jammin800k 
Okay mr sources. Woxic is the best player on his team by far (much bigger than sunny which is debatable between him and oskar) and his buyout can be whatever the hell they want it to be.
2019-03-05 21:03
2017 Frozen 16 2019 Frozen still fucking 16 maybe he was born on the 29 march
2019-03-05 15:54
#533
rain | 
Turkey nezz645 
+1 axaxaxaxxaxa
2019-03-05 16:40
#792
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Slovakia t4gg3d 
you could say that his age is frozen
2019-03-09 22:38
2017 Frozen 16 2019 Frozen still fucking 16 maybe he was born on the 29 march
2019-03-05 15:54
when frozen first got talked about he was 14 not 16 btw
2019-03-05 16:23
#528
oskar | 
Czech Republic PaYaB 
Wtf, I am born 29 march.
2019-03-05 16:33
lets kick our two best players in oskar and sunny and then replace them by unproven players - NICEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
2019-03-05 15:55
And get chris Back in starting line up even tho they have karrigan :D 1000 IQ play by mousesports, bye bye top 5, welcome top 25.
2019-03-05 16:55
#646
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United States Jammin800k 
Woxic isnt exactly unproven
2019-03-05 20:27
rip hr
2019-03-05 16:01
karrigan? nice, welcome back to mouz frozen? big gamble, let's hope that he can gain experience and improve woxic? rip team, try not to fall lower than 15 in the rankings. -> do NOT sign woxic by any means and get oskar back.
2019-03-05 16:04
at least you tried lul 0/8
2019-03-05 18:09
#504
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Spain chanSw0w 
Correct Roles: ChrisJ Main Awp Ropz Rifler Karrigan Support/Igl Woxic Rifler/2º Awp Godzen Star kid
2019-03-05 16:05
woxic awp is god and rifle is trash but second awp? you noob?
2019-03-05 16:23
#518
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Spain chanSw0w 
I'm Sorry Starcraft , you can change with ChrisJ 1º/2º Awp
2019-03-05 16:24
#505
ZywOo | 
Portugal truzzt 
Actually insane roster move tbh, what I just don't get is why would they have 2 IGL's? And who would IGL, Karrigan or ChrisJ?
2019-03-05 16:05
#506
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Turkey darknight53 
-Karrigan +Sunny is gonna be good .
2019-03-05 16:08
#508
woxic | 
Turkey c0irain 
lets go woxic
2019-03-05 16:08
Why karrigan?
2019-03-05 16:10
#522
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Europe DenilSmith 
I think karrigan will be Main IGL, Chrisj will be rifler (lurker or support) and he can make an impact in the game, by playing with AWP
2019-03-05 16:29
I know but karrigan is a bad move imo he cant even aim against tier3 NA...
2019-03-06 00:33
Youre focusing too much on his time with Envy, My guess and thats all it is, was his time with Envy was to develop a system in which that team could gel. I dont think he was brought in to frag at all. At times he seemed almost disinterested in taking fights and making calls for his team to come in and support. I think this move in the long run will see Karrigan transition to a coaching role in mouz.
2019-03-06 00:51
#511
REASTEN | 
Norway Noreg 
sick team tbh
2019-03-05 16:19
#514
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Turkey hxlo 
if chrisj will join too it will be like 2 igls or 2 awpers which makes literally no sense when u have sunny or oskar to be in. even if karrigan will be igl they should still get oskar as second awp like wtf is wrong with that org lol. let young talents get better ffs
2019-03-05 16:22
#526
oskar | 
Czech Republic PaYaB 
+1
2019-03-05 16:32
frozen looks like perfect addition with woxic not sure about karrigan. he is trash
2019-03-05 16:26
#725
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United States Jammin800k 
You're trash
2019-03-06 07:51
another kid talking nonsense shit...
2019-03-06 08:13
#764
 | 
United States Jammin800k 
Damn that triggered you huh
2019-03-06 22:03
Unluko typo in the title. MousePorts.
2019-03-05 16:29
EZ4GODXIC
2019-03-05 16:29
#525
China o_O 
fuck this lineup lol
2019-03-05 16:32
#530
NiKo | 
Belgium Akkawaka 
Uhmm.. Where is oskar in all of this? And why do they have 2 IGLs?
2019-03-05 16:35
#561
 | 
Germany Bennime 
Chrisj will obviously stop igling. I'm sure his individual level will go up again.
2019-03-05 17:13
#562
NiKo | 
Belgium Akkawaka 
And what about oskar though? :/
2019-03-05 17:14
#567
 | 
Germany Bennime 
I hope this Frozen guy will suck ass so they bring Oskar back in
2019-03-05 17:20
#568
NiKo | 
Belgium Akkawaka 
I really doubt Frozen will suck, and I don't think having two talentend AWPers in the same team would be a good thing. (Karrigan and ChrisJ is already kind of weird imo)
2019-03-05 17:21
#587
ropz | 
Czech Republic rusteD 
Frozen will suck. Hes medicore in t3...
2019-03-05 17:50
#645
 | 
United States Jammin800k 
0/8
2019-03-05 20:26
#647
ropz | 
Czech Republic rusteD 
ok burger you know better
2019-03-05 20:27
#649
 | 
United States Jammin800k 
-8/8
2019-03-05 20:36
#650
ropz | 
Czech Republic rusteD 
= -1 Thats elementary school "math", you shouldnt be asking such questions here. Ask your mummy to help you with your homework next time.
2019-03-05 20:38
#657
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United States Jammin800k 
-16/8
2019-03-05 21:03
#660
ropz | 
Czech Republic rusteD 
#650
2019-03-05 21:06
#661
 | 
United States Jammin800k 
No
2019-03-05 21:10
#531
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Finland Emvi 
I loved the old mouz lineup so much, sad to see it go.... all good things come to an end i guess. This lineup can be sick. Surprised oskar would be out, he is too good to be replaced surely.
2019-03-05 16:39
#726
 | 
United States Jammin800k 
Woxic is younger, stronger mechanically, and also doesnt have motivation problems. Woxic will not be the reason this team does not succeed, I promise.
2019-03-06 07:53
#534
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France mdK_ 
Sick
2019-03-05 16:41
wtf why is oskar on the bench? And why is chrisJ in staring line-up? -10000iq mouz?
2019-03-05 16:45
#538
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Brazil Ryzan 
This frozen boy plays a lot, great promise. Mousesports made the perfect line! Without doubt top 5 ...
2019-03-05 16:47
#539
k0nfig | 
Sweden aztecs 
rip mouz fanbase incoming woxic turkish fanbase LMAO
2019-03-05 16:47
My favourite moment youtube.com/watch?v=6zqUv9Zj764 I think its better not 2 take Karrigan but Im happy that ChrisGod is back with a rather good teammates;)
2019-03-05 17:01
#541
NBK- | 
Estonia BlameS 
why the hell would they need ChrisJ over Oskar?
2019-03-05 16:51
They have Woxic over Oskar
2019-03-05 17:02
oskar > woxic
2019-03-06 08:38
Remove fucking chrisJ. He must be such a fun guy to play with (which I doubt seeing him rage all the time) because I don't see what else he brings to the table.
2019-03-05 16:53
#768
 | 
United States Jammin800k 
Hes a good roleplayer, pretty versatile. Can AWP, Entry, IGL, support. Beyond that he gives good comms and is pretty reliable. Hes usually never the reason you lose a game but also rarely wins it for you. Holding a 1.0 or .97 whatever he had as an IGL and entry in tier 1 is quite difficult, most players would not be able to handle that.
2019-03-06 23:36
#547
 | 
France FanchD 
ChrisJ over Oskar ???? Wtf
2019-03-05 16:58
-oskar +ChrisJ feels ok after those Snax rumours (oskar didn't like him for some reason)
2019-03-05 17:06
#549
DeaTh | 
Switzerland x676 
oskar should leave instead of sunny and it would be a decent long term team
2019-03-05 17:00
#554
zet | 
Switzerland MRKNUSPER 
- styko + snax - snax + styko - styko - chrisj + chrisj go home mouz management, u drunk
2019-03-05 17:05
-chrisj -niko +chrisj before that
2019-03-05 17:12
#558
 | 
Germany Bennime 
I don't think karrogan signed up for that team lmao. With sunny and Oskar they could have had a real chance. But this is like 2014 mouz. With allu, tabsen, karrogan, Chris and legija lmao
2019-03-05 17:07
ahhahahahahaahah this is such a JOKE of a "team". Signing frozen. lul Benching oskar and getting woxic? Upgrade? lul! Selling Sunny and getting ChrisJ back. LUL! Signing Karrigan and thinking bottigan will be something else than deadweight in 2019. OMEGALUL!
2019-03-05 17:15
apparently to this danish guy signing frozen is a “lul” although he has been one of the hottest prospects in EU for a while. woxic has been carrying HR whole year. He may not be an upgrade but might bring different approach to the game that can be helpful and only time will show if its upgrade or not. Selling sunny and bringing back chrisJ is not the best idea so thats the only thing that can be critiqued. Benching karrigan in FaZe has only shown how important he was for the team as FaZe looked really shaky since AdreN standing in
2019-03-05 17:35
#610
woxic | 
Turkey s699er 
Great comment +1
2019-03-05 18:23
thanks bro
2019-03-05 20:13
#570
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Vietnam rollofocker 
Thinkin they can buy chemistry lol...
2019-03-05 17:26
o shieeeet. looks interesting
2019-03-05 17:28
karrigay noooo pls no :(
2019-03-05 17:28
kinda sad for ISSAA
2019-03-05 17:39
Wtf is Mouz doing?!
2019-03-05 17:42
I doubt things were planned like that. but I wont miss oskar and sunny. they are overperformer when it doesnt matter but when they were needed to actually make the difference, they failed in 4/5 . pretty useless.
2019-03-05 17:43
karrigan over chrisj must be joke. its not gonna work sadly :/
2019-03-05 17:44
Why karrigan? Only ex6tenz could be worse choise.... They want to make tier1 team, but take in team tier3 aim as igl... Look liquid, look astralis. Where is tier3 aimers? I’m absolutly sure that join Stanislaw in team would be better decision. Even Ange1 is better. At least he’s tier2 aimer
2019-03-05 17:47
#644
 | 
United States Jammin800k 
0/8 or a huge amount of ignorance
2019-03-05 20:25
#582
s1mple | 
Ukraine Wok3r 
-sonny - oskar Sirius
2019-03-05 17:48
#583
ropz | 
Czech Republic rusteD 
Woxic xd Karigun who hast played for a year or so Frozen xd other acrually talented players of similiar age play in major finals (EZ4ENCE) yet hes doing medicore in t3 matches.
2019-03-05 17:48
Well thats not true, Karrigan played with ENVY for the qualifier for this major just weeks ago. Also he been pugging hard with other pros - I saw him on S1mple's stream, and he was playing really well. You can have a look at faceit.com for yourselvf. He played lots of matches for practice - so its not like he just stopped after Faze.
2019-03-05 18:18
mediocre? are you following NoChance or just fckng hater?
2019-03-05 18:43
#623
ropz | 
Czech Republic rusteD 
Yes
2019-03-05 18:44
#584
 | 
Sweden godname 
expected
2019-03-05 17:48
mouz are officially braindead lmao frozen and karigan rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrooooffl
2019-03-05 17:50
#586
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Netherlands Cebix 
They will need 3 months just to understand each other, thinking how mixed this team is.
2019-03-05 17:49
mouz management is mentally ill signing a kid who cant go further from tier3 for 3 years straight makes nosense
2019-03-05 17:56
is karrigan going to igl? to bad sunny :(
2019-03-05 18:00
NO ISSAA, OSKAR, .... NO WIN😋😋😋
2019-03-05 18:03
#595
 | 
Denmark Userunknown 
why 2 IGL? why frozen? karrigan ropz w0xic ISSA valde
2019-03-05 18:04
#643
 | 
United States Jammin800k 
Chrisj has not been an IGL always in fact for most of his career he wasnt. Frozen is nuts and deserves a chance, hes destroying tier 3.
2019-03-05 20:22
#598
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Poland michal990909 
how about a little +styko -styko +styko?
2019-03-05 18:07
-karrigan +Ex6tenz
2019-03-05 18:07
Mousesports taking another risk with a youngster first ropz now frozen I hope they give them a 6 month period to try stuff out, given that this is basically a new team (only 2/5 remain)
2019-03-05 18:09
#604
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Europe Ringwraith 
No money for s1mple
2019-03-05 18:11
Mouz is done. We can only hope sunny ends up in ence.
2019-03-05 18:18
#609
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Portugal BadLurcker 
- karrigan + ISSAA/S1mple
2019-03-05 18:22
Its an interesting mix but I don't have high expectations I'd rather they kept oskar, and I feel like chrisj staying on the roster is just a patch
2019-03-05 18:23
It's always interesting when a new team is coming together. GL
2019-03-05 18:25
Downgrade lul.
2019-03-05 18:31
Wtf wheres Sunny? Going to Faze?
2019-03-05 18:31
Possibly in c9
2019-03-05 18:46
Oh fuck no!
2019-03-05 20:06
YEAH
2019-03-05 18:33
#619
shox | 
India iejesus 
holy shit
2019-03-05 18:38
#620
flusha | 
Netherlands davin 
lol
2019-03-05 18:45
Yes
2019-03-05 18:46
Baitsport
2019-03-05 19:02
karrigan - woxic - ropz - frozen - krimz
2019-03-05 19:06
#631
 | 
World dammo 
As a mouz fan im shocked, im happy that atleast ropz stays and chrisJ is back, but its sad for me to see sunny and oskar leaving :/
2019-03-05 19:10
chrisJ igl >>>>>>> karrigan chrisJ awp >>>>>karrigan chrisJ rifle >>>>>>karrigan chrisj pistols >>>>>>karrigan what a point take karrigan ?
2019-03-05 19:16
#641
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United States Jammin800k 
At the point that his IGLing his not better and never has been, he gets less out of his players individually and they have quite similar stats and impact in terms of fragging
2019-03-05 20:20
you wanna say when karrigan was in Astralis or FaZe he have not better players indivdually ?
2019-03-05 23:07
#689
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United States Jammin800k 
Just because he had better players doesnt mean he didnt take those players to a higher level from what they were at than chrisj took his. Mouz roster by all accounts should have been top 5 all of last year. They had 3 top 20 players a highly regarded "fragging IGL" and a great support player, top 5 support easily. Karrigan gets the most of out his players individually and is very good at setting up his star players to succeed, which is something mouz has struggle with either ropz or oskar seemingly randomly dropping off for months at a time.
2019-03-05 23:48
3 awpers and 2 igls okkkkk, + Leaving Godsunny is a really badddd idea
2019-03-05 19:53
#642
 | 
United States Jammin800k 
Chrisj is not an AWPer, not sure who the other one is. Woxic is the only primary AWPer and chrisj has played non IGL positions most of his career, even in mouz he acted most like an entry
2019-03-05 20:21
Me thinks he has some idea that Karrigan will be awping... Which he hasnt in a long time. Glue sniffer.
2019-03-06 00:57
#699
 | 
United States Jammin800k 
Guess so.
2019-03-06 01:13
Do I have to explain? Lol... Oskar, ChrisJ and W0xic for awpers, and ChrisJ and Karrigan for IGLs
2019-03-06 10:34
#767
 | 
United States Jammin800k 
Chrisj has transitioned to an entry fragger over the past years and before this mouz he never IGLd, he was forced to accept the role to stay on the team essentially and they never got a real IGL because individuals carried. Oskar is benched, learn to read.
2019-03-06 22:07
:O nice
2019-03-05 19:54
#636
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Uruguay NEXcsgo 
It's dream team. HR: -deadfox -woxic +GodreN +Mou I need back up in HR for AdreN
2019-03-05 20:00
Woxic dont play with ropz, he is a racist, dont forget, He always spoke about Turkey and Turks as racist.
2019-03-05 20:00
#658
ZELIN | 
Portugal Cyborgy 
lold
2019-03-05 21:05
#681
cyx | 
South Africa bonkaz 
nt Recep Tayyip
2019-03-05 23:19
Lmao 0 firepower
2019-03-05 20:16
onlinesports
2019-03-05 20:51
-karrigan +scream chrisj igl
2019-03-05 21:02
#659
oskar | 
Europe Adisk1 
wtf, why oskar got benched?
2019-03-05 21:05
Sunny, Ropz, Woxic, Karrigan, Frozen would be good young talent for Karrigan. Teams are supposed to be trying to catch up not make themselves even worse
2019-03-05 21:49
Chrisj igl + usually awper Woxic only awp ?? Karrigan igl + chrisj igl ??? -sunny ??? +frozen ??? Wtf is this shit
2019-03-05 21:53
#706
 | 
United States Jammin800k 
Chrisj and Oskar as only AWP worked. IF anything having a double AWP option will make them stronger. Chrisj can help with IGL but karrigan will be main IGL. Chrisj didnt used to IGL, for most of his career he wasnt. Frozen has great potential
2019-03-06 02:28
#668
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Argentina XaiDN 
Very fucking Nice bro
2019-03-05 21:53
R.I.P. Mousesports! Such a shame to go from a winning top Team to Tier2! GJ #NOT
2019-03-05 22:01
#672
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Asia mocity123 
wtf is this???
2019-03-05 22:06
#675
 | 
Poland KasPro 
tier 2/3 at best
2019-03-05 22:34
much worse than previous lineup
2019-03-05 23:32
#687
 | 
Portugal Moskitorui 
faze : -adren +chrisj mouse : +woxic main awper + karrigan igl
2019-03-05 23:40
+1
2019-03-06 02:59
Oskar benched? WTF not expected. He's waisting his time in mouz like ChrisJ
2019-03-06 00:00
#694
 | 
Turkey Jarrod 
karrigan omegalul waste of time
2019-03-06 00:35
#698
 | 
Brazil paulo7hiago 
how can oskar be left off?
2019-03-06 00:58
Juicy roster changes hmmmm
2019-03-06 01:16
#702
Zeus | 
Russia Mickeeey 
lol R.I.P. mouse
2019-03-06 02:10
MAKE MOUZ GREAT AGAIN
2019-03-06 02:56
CHRISJ
2019-03-06 03:06
#715
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African Union mikecool 
Granted they all can speak English and all, I still see communication issues being a big factor for this team. We shall see how it all pans out I guess. The new team roster does look fine on paper though.
2019-03-06 04:01
all players played in international teams before team cemistry will be a bigger factor imo
2019-03-06 07:41
#716
 | 
Greece deST) 
Estonia - Netherlands - Denmark - Turkey - Slovakia Gotta love the comms ingame
2019-03-06 04:07
Shouldn't be that much different from the Estonia - Netherlands - Finland - Czech - Slovakia lineup though right?
2019-03-06 14:09
Whyy oscar?
2019-03-06 06:58
#720
ZywOo | 
Latvia `DinGo 
oh snap
2019-03-06 07:38
why you need karrigan if u have chrisj?
2019-03-06 08:01
#731
 | 
Turkey TrMan4161 
Woxic instagram snap -> Woxic go to Ukrania Woxic no transfer HR+Woxic Next next
2019-03-06 08:32
WOXIC
2019-03-06 10:39
frozen for sunny make sense woxic for oskar, too but if +karrigan is true, i assume faze is really out there checking hltv threads by kiddos and buying out chrisj so one player is missing or mouz got a double awp / igl (i think they alread had rosters with both scenarios in the past) OR one of the awpers gets moved to rifler but as i dont follow mouz neither hr i don't know about their rigling abilities
2019-03-06 12:19
chrisJ back and back again?? frozen GOD
2019-03-06 12:39
Good luck Woxic.
2019-03-06 17:10
No frozen pls, add cromen instead, thanks.
2019-03-06 17:27
#763
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Albania JonZherka 
-chrisJ +chrisJ -chrisJ +chrisJ 400IQ
2019-03-06 20:00
#769
 | 
Portugal BadLurcker 
-karrigan +ISSAA
2019-03-07 12:13
#770
 | 
Czech Republic kurka 
Bench best player in team oskar, jokesports
2019-03-07 12:15
#791
 | 
Europe zero_hoes 
+1
2019-03-09 12:05
-woxic +oskar
2019-03-07 17:03
Having chrisJ + karrigan in team doesnt make any sense to me. ChrisJ can IGL and at least frag decent(second awp), while botigan is just... botigan. He didnt do shit even in T2 games lately. On a trail maybe, but buying him out or anyting is simply not worth it. Ex6 is kinda free to get ( i guess) and few more in lower level teams who are speaking english. I would like to see sunny ropz oskar frozen and one IGL (ropz more of a support role).
2019-03-07 17:43
#775
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Estonia ropz_bestest 
IGL should be support in my opinion since then have to look at the game differently and might not be focused on fragging
2019-03-07 17:48
Then what i wrote makes even more sense. Having chrisJ and botigan is completely redundant as neither of them is great fragger, chrisJ has good maps, ill give him that and his awp is decent on CT. On the other hand i dont think hes that great IGL. And woxic for oskar? Seems more like personal issues in mouz, cause thats hardly an upgrade, hopefully decent replacement.
2019-03-07 17:52
#801
 | 
United States Jammin800k 
You really judging him as a fragger on envy? Do you know how roles work lol? Karrigan has a legendary history of IGL, top 5 easily in CSGO
2019-03-14 06:26
He didnt do shit in faze and he was kicked from astralis (or he left on his own doesnt even matter what do you believe) which they THEN became godlike team with gla1ve. So go figure yourself. He played lately some T2 tournaments where he was almost invisible.
2019-03-14 19:50
#805
 | 
United States Jammin800k 
Uhm before faze got niko he took them from top 16 to top 4 then they got Niko and became #1/2 hltv.org/ranking/teams/2016/october/24 Faze acquire karrigan hltv.org/ranking/teams/2016/december/26 Faze pick up kio for jkaem hltv.org/ranking/teams/2017/february/6 Faze top5. He did plenty in faze, then what he did stopped working and the players didnt want to build a new system so they all played very individually and event Niko decided to IGL and obviously you're going to take Niko over an IGL who no longer has the respect of the team. Yes gla1ve is also the best IGL in CS:GO history, not everyone can be gla1ve. Karrigan knows counterstrike well and has styles that work well especially on teams with a lot of aimers. It's funny you dont realize that your comments are actually compliments to karrigan "he was on the best Danish roster" "he IGLd for the best mix team in CSGO history" But I guess you could IGL faze better? Or at least make a suggestion as to who could?
2019-03-15 06:32
#777
 | 
Sweden Roods 
This can actually become a sick lineup 💪
2019-03-07 22:30
naahh
2019-03-07 23:48
ezzz frozen 😎
2019-03-07 23:50
karrigan, fuck it
2019-03-08 04:58
#782
 | 
Asia Mahathir62 
COULD BE NICE IF -KARRIGAN +FLUSHA
2019-03-08 15:19
#789
 | 
Turkey Thunderball 
++++1 M
2019-03-09 11:33
Go woxic
2019-03-08 18:24
thats is epic
2019-03-08 21:17
#788
 | 
Germany Spongebong 
karrigan ..
2019-03-09 11:27
#790
 | 
Europe zero_hoes 
please keep oskar sometimes its like these teamsd dont have a fucking clue about what theeyre doing
2019-03-09 12:05
Karrigan LUL
2019-03-10 04:56
#795
 | 
Kyrgyzstan Red_John 
Dreamteam?
2019-03-11 07:50
can confirm
2019-03-12 08:23
#797
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Finland f0pZ 
karrigan in team, max top15 team
2019-03-12 14:41
#798
jks | 
North America Fule 
New Faze, becomes successful, then Niko joins.
2019-03-12 18:30
woxic form one bad team to another, classic cs:go roster changes
2019-03-13 11:27
Karrigan? No plz.... no!!!!!!
2019-03-14 06:16
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