NBK: "[The fnatic series] showed we're still just a top-ten team"

After Vitality qualified for the playoffs with a 3-1 record following a win against Spirit, we sat down with Nathan "NBK-" Schmitt.

Vitality have joined the playoffs after they went 3-1 in the group stage, locking down their third victory in their second attempt following a crushing loss to fnatic on day three, coming out on top of a close series with Spirit in the fourth round.

NBK commented on Vitality's busy online schedule and playing a next-to-meaningless MDL season

After the match, we spoke to NBK- to get his view on the team's run in the group stage and asked him about Vitality's busy online schedule over the past few weeks.

You played somewhere around 30 maps online in a span of a few weeks last month, a lot of which were in MDL, whose current season doesn't hold any real value, especially after you withdrew from the playoffs. Is it frustrating to have wasted so much time on that?

I don't see it as a waste of time in the sense that it helped us do two things. First, we can test our map pool - we didn't play the maps we wanted to play against each and every team, we just vetoed so that we would play average maps for us and for them. And we also use those games as practice because as you said, this season is more or less meaningless, the implications are non-existent. Yeah, we just use it as practice and it's practice with some value, where you still want to win.

That's the bottom line in my team, I've always said that I don't want to lose to teams that are out of the top 30, for example, so those games really matter to me because I want us to be good no matter what, no matter against who, and have that hunger. So no, we take those games very seriously and we wanted to go to the end and win the whole thing, but we'll take first place in the league.

I saw you say on Twitter that yesterday against fnatic you didn't really show your usual level, so where did that series go wrong for you?

To be honest, I don't really know. First of all, fnatic are playing very very well, better than the standards they showed in the past tournaments, where all of their players are actually playing well at the same time. And their map pool is pretty good against us. On our side, it was just bad communication, getting outplayed, not having the skill present, nobody really showing up. A mix of all those things, where we still showed that we are just a top-ten team and not higher and that sometimes we still have those big weaknesses where we aren't showing up and nothing is happening. Teams like ENCE, Na`Vi, Astralis, Liquid, they always have a bottom line they don't go under and we don't have that yet. We need to fix that. We just played like a random top-15 team and that's definitely not good enough to win games like that.

Vitality's one-side series with fnatic showed that the Frenchmen still have big weaknesses

Spirit are normally a team that no one knows too much about, but you have actually played quite a bit against them since you had to play a lot online early on, winning in the vast majority of cases. Was it a surprise to see them take you so far with their new lineup?

First of all, I think they had fairly good draws for them so far in the tournament, so that's why they are 2-1. But overall, they are a very tactical team. Nobody really had a lot of data on them and online they haven't been playing that well, I think. Yeah, I am very surprised by how well iDISBALANCE and chopper are biting into the system of S0tF1k, with a lot of executes and not really a lot of freedom. I think it's working well for them. They still lack some things like any top15-20 team, I think they are in that range of caliber.

Now they have two good individualities that joined them and they have now more and more experience behind them with the core that went to a lot of tournaments. They are rising more and more and getting more experience as time goes. Because they are that tactical, it's hard to play against them. If you let them play their game too much and can't really counter them in the mid rounds and stuff like that, then they're going to fairly easily take rounds off you because their executes are f*cking good. It's hard to counter them. So yes and no, we know how good they are and we know that we can also beat them fairly easily if we want to, if we manage to.

Well, it wasn't very easy today, particularly on Dust2 where you couldn't seem to get going at all and that is your best map, one where you have been quite consistent, what went wrong there?

I think it came down to not being able to counter the mid-rounds against them. Because we couldn't really bother them in mid-rounds, they could execute whatever they wanted. I think they have the best A execute in the world on Dust2 and they ran it like three, four, five times against us, I think. You can have five people in position and you won't be able to counter them if you are playing pretty passively. Yeah, we got caught by that 24/7 and I wasn't feeling very confident with the AWP so we couldn't really get the double AWP going, but even then they didn't really come B that many times.

I also - and that's my bad - I forgot one of the defenses that we had, which was probably one of the better counters to what they were doing, and I forgot to call it. So that probably cost us the whole game, maybe it would have been different, but they played a very solid game, tactically they were 1000 times better than us on that map.

NBK commended Spirit's A executes on Dust2

Inferno ended up being really close and it took a couple of pretty big turnarounds, 3v5s and such...

Inferno is still quite a question mark for me in how to approach the map in general and for our team. We swapped things up before the tournament, with a little bit of practice on that map, like me going with the AWP and ZywOo focusing more on just rifling and us making room for him to just have to kill people. He destroyed them on CT side, but nobody could really help him, so that was pretty bad from our side. Then on the T side, I don't know, I feel like there is something in the meta right now that is weird in the sense that I feel like it's easy to call. If you take control of banana and people are playing passively, you just execute or contact B and you're getting the rounds. And that's like 90% of rounds we were winning between two days ago and today. It's a bit weird to me that it's that simple, I don't know if it's the real meta, and if that's it then it is a boring map.

Yeah, sure, the clutches really put us into a lot of confidence and we got the entries over the whole second half, I think, and that helps because you just have to swarm the bombsites and you win the rounds because it's Inferno. If you take the bombsites, you have to win the round 80% of the time, so that was pretty much our goal and everyone went big in the second half. Individually, we beat them there, not tactically.

You've been consistently rising in rankings, improving from tournament to tournament, at the Major you were close to playoffs, what's the goal here?

I think this tournament and the next one we're playing in Belgium are going to show if we have guts or not. We're coming into this tournament not having the best map pool, not having the best preparation, we had a lot of struggles with the visas just to come here, so we lacked a lot of days of practice. So it's only going to be about our guts. Inferno is a good example of that, I think, because we don't have that much practice on it, but yeah, we are playing fairly well and we're beating teams we have to beat on it. That's the main thing, play with all our hearts, show what we have. If we lose, we lose, if we win, we win, that's cool, but the goal is to raise the bar of that bottom line higher and higher every time. Be able to be more consistent, be a solid top-ten, top-eight, top-six team, etc.

We know that at our peak we can beat almost any team - we haven't faced Astralis and Liquid yet, but I'm pretty confident that we can make it if we're on a good day. Making top eight is a very good thing, in my opinion, a good start for our team, and then it's game by game, play more best-of-threes, fix our mistakes, our map pool. We're making some improvements on Mirage that we f*cked up the first two or three days... We have to do the same with every other map and that's the main goal. Try to get better, learn from mistakes, and then we'll see what the f*ck happens.

France Nathan 'NBK-' Schmitt
Nathan 'NBK-' Schmitt
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Nice!!!
2019-04-02 22:10
#2
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Austria shaakeh 
EZ NBK
2019-04-02 22:10
#15
God | 
Ukraine illinoize 
Ofc just top10, what else can be claimed?
2019-04-02 22:12
#25
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Netherlands CaptainMarten 
Lmfao he actually expects to be top 5 in 2-3 months or something? They almost lost a bo3 to mousesports which only existed for 4 days or so
2019-04-02 22:19
#33
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France Axsii 
What a shitty argument to say that they almost lost an online match and Almost? Seriously? 16-5 4-16 (on mirage where they suck anyway) 16-3
2019-04-02 22:29
2019-04-02 22:32
#38
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France Yoyoona00 
2019-04-02 22:32
#72
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Netherlands CaptainMarten 
Oh shit damn, they won against a fluking team
2019-04-02 23:22
vitality is a tier 5 team, change my mind.
2019-04-03 02:22
2019-04-03 10:47
yeah like Spirit is more relevant than Ence
2019-04-07 03:03
#173
NiKo | 
Belgium Akkawaka 
A fluking team that reaches semis on a consistent basis. FLUKING TEAM SURE.
2019-04-08 15:57
Consistent basis? Since the major man, that's been what. Only 2 months ago?
2019-04-08 16:02
#175
NiKo | 
Belgium Akkawaka 
Well they have been consistent ever since, what do you want more?
2019-04-08 16:02
I want people to stope over estimating the potential of vitality. They won't climb higher than this
2019-04-08 16:17
#177
NiKo | 
Belgium Akkawaka 
How is that relevant?
2019-04-08 16:22
it isn't
2019-04-08 16:23
#42
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France Axsii 
Wtf wrong with your brains lmao They won the fucking game that's all dude. Even if that was difficult
2019-04-02 22:34
#84
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United States @FyreCS 
Tbf, ENCE have been around like 6 months as a team and are #3
2019-04-02 23:48
#119
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Mexico evm 
The lineup has been together since April 2018. It's been a year.
2019-04-03 06:07
Yes and them consistently beaiting top teams have been since the major. They definitely won't keep that up much longer In other words, their top 3 spot is logical within HLTV rankings, but they're definitely not a consistent #3
2019-04-03 08:21
they are not top 10 LUL astralis liquid navi nip faze ence fnatic furia mibr north mousesports g2 renegades c9 all of them better than vitality
2019-04-02 22:39
C9 0/8
2019-04-02 22:43
#99
s1mple | 
Indonesia RxRobo 
M16R 0/8
2019-04-03 00:54
#102
ele | 
Europe ctronic 
north mibr furiaXdd
2019-04-03 01:13
#105
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United Kingdom Shoomus 
g2, c9, furia and mibr better than vitality LUL surrre mate
2019-04-03 02:05
c9 g2 furia omegalul
2019-04-03 10:48
I think g2 will nearly be better than Vita m8
2019-04-03 13:24
less firepower (imo), less motivation (it makes 1 year that they try to find their roster, keep failing), vit keeps improving when g2 don't I doubt that g2 will even reach the vitality level, but i hope that they can
2019-04-03 13:30
Fnatic then better than Top 10? <3
2019-04-03 12:06
#14
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Poland F5_detector 
New f5 on the block
2019-04-02 22:12
#16
blameF | 
Sweden Unluko 
F5
2019-04-02 22:13
#3
cR4zY | 
Myanmar xdcc 
Zywoo is still top10 team *
2019-04-02 22:10
#109
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Denmark belikeme 
"we haven't faced Astralis and Liquid yet, but I'm pretty confident that we can make it if we're on a good day" What has NBK been drinking? Even if you were playing Cache against Astralis and Zywoo had 50 kills, you would still not be able to beat them
2019-04-03 02:50
#4
rain | 
Norway Alexed 
God
2019-04-02 22:11
#6
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Austria shaakeh 
NBKing
2019-04-02 22:11
#7
flusha | 
Sweden XenoRex 
ez
2019-04-02 22:11
#8
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Turkey NIP_32_0_NUKE 
Nice joke LUL
2019-04-02 22:11
#9
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Estonia sux3ss 
no
2019-04-02 22:11
#10
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Belgium jorneiro 
Lmao what did you think
2019-04-02 22:12
#11
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New Zealand CZR^ 
cool
2019-04-02 22:12
#12
n0thing | 
Finland no_man 
are they even a top 10 team tho
2019-04-02 22:12
noooooooooooooo
2019-04-02 22:17
#31
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France Ocelot31 
they are top9 hltv and recently were top 10
2019-04-02 22:27
#32
n0thing | 
Finland no_man 
well hltv rankings are a joke and ence is top 15 at best so vitality top 30 maybe?
2019-04-02 22:27
#36
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France Ocelot31 
lmao sure man
2019-04-02 22:32
#37
n0thing | 
Finland no_man 
just kidding men
2019-04-02 22:32
VP isnt even anywhere on that list
2019-04-03 21:37
smart dude
2019-04-03 21:40
Smart enough to not cheer for them
2019-04-04 21:48
Really dont care about ur opinion
2019-04-04 22:13
yeah and north are really top 10 right? using hltv ranking is a big joke and even more when its fucked because of lack of tournaments like atm
2019-04-02 23:47
#89
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France Ocelot31 
i mean who would you put above them ?
2019-04-03 00:10
astralis/Ence/liquid/Navi/Nrg/Faze/Renegades /Fnatic/Nip/Mibr/Windigo and theyre already out the top 10 with that, could even add g2 who are probably more consistent and have a better made team that doesnt only rely on 1 guy but we will see after a couple of tournament this year when the hltv ranking itself will become a bit more logical and accurate
2019-04-03 00:19
#94
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France Ocelot31 
Fnatic played shit before this turnament that's why they are below, i agree for NRg and windigo but they need more turnament to prove it. VItality still deserve it's place
2019-04-03 00:19
Fnatic played shit at ONE tournament and before that they went toe to toe with astralis on lan and beat liquid which is something VIT will probably never do and what did VIT achieve to deserve top 10? Yeah right, only thing they did with this lineup was to farm tier 40 mdl teams
2019-04-03 00:21
Major and more importantly WESG ? How is it one tournament ? And look who they beaten to win PGL and go out of groups in IEM
2019-04-03 08:17
#134
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France Juriska 
Windigo is on par with VItality imo Nip is a fuck fest recently, i mean just look at the game vs vici.. was not beautiful cs at all, so messy.. Mibr? Please, look at how they are playing... NRG is more or less at the same lvl as vitality. Depend of the map they playu each other on. So Yeah, vitality still deserves their top 10
2019-04-03 09:38
#34
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Iceland fatboislim 
then which teams should be ranked higher than them? avangar? north? windigo?
2019-04-02 22:32
#39
n0thing | 
Finland no_man 
well windigo did win a million dollar lan
2019-04-02 22:33
#40
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Iceland fatboislim 
ok and who else?
2019-04-02 22:33
#44
n0thing | 
Finland no_man 
fnatic last year
2019-04-02 22:39
#45
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Iceland fatboislim 
last year? what?
2019-04-02 22:39
#48
n0thing | 
Finland no_man 
fnatic won wesg last year
2019-04-02 22:40
#60
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Iceland fatboislim 
last year, so what?
2019-04-02 22:57
#62
n0thing | 
Finland no_man 
yes you asked me who else has won wesg and i told you that fnc did last year
2019-04-02 22:58
#63
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Iceland fatboislim 
''then which teams should be ranked higher than them?'' ''ok and who else?''
2019-04-02 22:58
#65
n0thing | 
Finland no_man 
oh ok my bad
2019-04-02 22:59
lol you baiting them so hard they cant even see it
2019-04-02 23:48
#129
chrisJ | 
France Escher 
Overpriced tournament
2019-04-03 08:39
*Zywoo Feat Vitality is still top 10 you mean
2019-04-02 22:12
#56
ZywOo | 
Belgium Blaizzy 
Yeah like Alex/NBK weren't mvp in few maps last games
2019-04-02 22:52
#135
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France Juriska 
when people think that one player makes the whole team :lul Nbk strats has been on point, showing some good innovative stuff. and pretty ballsy yet understandable mid call. Alex has been improving amazingly since the major. Rpk with that p250 (ok maybe not on par with his teammates) still doing a good job at ankering a site
2019-04-03 09:42
still? is he under the impression that they have been top 10 for a while now?
2019-04-02 22:13
who
2019-04-02 22:13
#81
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Switzerland RU!N 
u should know cuz ence was beated by them :)
2019-04-02 23:43
pepehands just joking friendo(
2019-04-02 23:59
Lol theyre not even top15 he high
2019-04-02 22:13
0/8
2019-04-02 22:15
#28
ZywOo | 
Europe PowwneD 
I'm high and I see top 9 🙃
2019-04-02 22:24
hltv ranking OMEGALUL
2019-04-02 22:46
imagine using the hltv ranking LOL, + its even more fucked up atm because of the lack of tournaments and astralis winning everything
2019-04-02 22:55
what ranking are u using then ?
2019-04-03 07:46
They are #5 worlds on Elo ranking
2019-04-03 08:19
#21
nexa | 
Serbia FaZe_nexa 
ZyWoO and friends rekting online MDL top10 i arent think that
2019-04-02 22:15
#23
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Europe Tsukisaki 
F
2019-04-02 22:17
lmao, delusional
2019-04-02 22:18
"I also - and that's my bad - I forgot one of the defenses that we had, which was probably one of the better counters to what they were doing, and I forgot to call it. So that probably cost us the whole game" nice igl lul
2019-04-02 22:21
zytality are top 10 team ez
2019-04-02 22:22
#29
ZywOo | 
Europe PowwneD 
Beast
2019-04-02 22:24
#30
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Israel BingoBango 
maybe in 2015
2019-04-02 22:25
This Vitality team has the chance to compete against Astralis and other top teams. Frenchies were always dangerous, especially against Danish teams. I think Vitality has that potential. Maybe not to be the best team, but could be powerful title contender. Same with G2. I think they can actually make some noise, now after they got Amanek. Everyone shat on Shox and his IGL-ing but remember that G2's top was when Shox was IGL-ing (old line-up with NBK, bodyy and apEX). G2 is rising, same with Vitality. Hope they continue like this.
2019-04-02 22:35
#51
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France cedd 
amanek is picking up secondary igl duties on g2 (especially train and nuke). I think that's a great sign that not only shox is willing to give the reigns a bit, because he needs to sometimes, but that their playbook will become deeper. sometimes they seemed to hit brick walls on their t sides, amanek helping out with calling might be the key.
2019-04-02 22:42
Yeah true, G2 have a lot of problems with their T side. Same with Vitality. They're inconsistent as Ts. They also make lots of mistakes with force buys (just like the good ol' days xD). They were far more disciplined a few months ago. IDK why they are going back to that old French meta with force buys when it doesn't work. Just save up the money, have utility and do damage on the gun rounds.
2019-04-02 23:00
delusional
2019-04-02 22:56
I just gave arguments why they can be a top team, while you only commented 'delusional' Nice braindead. Expected from Denmark, the degenerate brother. They're already top 10 in the world and they've been together since October (December since ALEX joined) Thanks for your reply. Try again.
2019-04-02 23:02
flair checked out
2019-04-02 23:14
#97
kennyS | 
France Kiirua2 
Brain didn't
2019-04-03 00:38
LOL yeah in your wet dream maybe
2019-04-02 23:25
nice bait
2019-04-02 22:36
#47
shox | 
Switzerland thelucker 
Vitality TOP10 team OMEGALUL
2019-04-02 22:40
#49
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France cedd 
team play is good, and they are steadily improving. what I am worrying about is if they will reach their ceiling or plateau where they cant beat liquid/astralis etc... because of them having slightly less firepower. we shall see. ALEX showing up on a few maps is reassuring, but they need to still work very hard
2019-04-02 22:41
”Just” ? you should be glad to even be in top10. Without zywoo he should be glad to be in top30
2019-04-02 22:41
#53
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World breezy0 
Without Zywoo they would be top50
2019-04-02 22:46
Indeed
2019-04-02 23:59
#98
kennyS | 
France Kiirua2 
Of course they would be only 4. Missing a player isn't fair ;)
2019-04-03 00:43
#133
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Asia senkage333 
nice defence bro
2019-04-03 09:27
True that! top30 would be cool playing 4v5 all the time! :)
2019-04-03 17:28
zywoo is top ten, he's not even close lol
2019-04-02 22:46
they wont get better untill they kick alex, plus zywoo is the only reason they are even in top 30
2019-04-02 22:55
Ouch you are quite stupid, their playstyle is all around zywoo. They are all the time baiting for him
2019-04-03 13:31
#164
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Europe Luboss 
you have no clue what you're talking about kio fanboy
2019-04-03 22:48
They forgot to sensor a fuck!
2019-04-02 23:03
#67
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Croatia Netkov 
Well, 1st April was yesterday, you know.
2019-04-02 23:04
"Just" a top ten team lmao, this bitch has his head so far up his ass. Vitality being in top 10 is a joke, get out of here with that humblbrag crap
2019-04-02 23:08
Ikr so delusional about his own situation, he can't even have a consistent team even with zywoo putting a s1mple cosplay 24/7, this team will never achieve anything relevant
2019-04-02 23:28
if they arent top 10 who would you rank above them?
2019-04-02 23:29
Astralis, Liquid, Ence, NaVi, FaZe, RNG, AVANGAR, Fnatic, NiP, Mouz. But they could be argued to be top 10, my point was moreso that them being in the running for the top 10 shows how much of joke the scene is right now. Astralis is probably the only "real" T1 team atm, maybe Liquid too but that's a big maybe. Like if you look at the HLTV top 5, #1 is probably the best team of all time, #2 is a really good but constantly choking team (and look worse with stewie), #3 was a low T2 team that had a few good tournaments last year, and have reached really good form at a perfect time (when the rest of the scene is in the doldrums), #4 is a one man team, #5 is an all star lineup where pretty much every player would be better off in a different team.
2019-04-03 01:21
-mouz no games played really -nrg they have been really bad lately and every thing they attended with vitality, vitality performed better. -avangar is this a troll? -fnatic have been REALLY shaky lately, even more shaky than nrg. granted they won a bo3 vs vitality but i still rank vita higher, same for north even though you didnt mention north. The rest are already above vitality anyway. your opinion is really really deluded.
2019-04-03 01:49
Again, the point of my original post was that being in top 10 atm means almost nothing because of the state of the scene.
2019-04-03 10:12
well that i 100% agree with. astralis and liquid clearly take spots 1 and 2 but every thing else is a shit show.
2019-04-03 12:56
#69
Zero | 
Slovakia t4gg3d 
JUST XDDD You should thank Zywoo for even being in the top30, arrogant faggot this team would be irrelevant without Zywoo
2019-04-02 23:11
+1 xdddd wtf this man
2019-04-02 23:40
#71
s1mple | 
Germany NatsuS 
tier 100 player with a tier 1 player = top 10? I dont know any player who say so much "I" in an interview about a team. NBK Backstabber you will win nothing
2019-04-02 23:16
#76
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Croatia Makz_CRO 
lol top10, april fools' has passed buddy
2019-04-02 23:32
#80
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Lithuania chingo 
yeah top 10 good april fools joke... they are top 9 if seriously
2019-04-02 23:42
Gotta love how teams always put the blame on having a bad day n shit when losing a bo, it wasn't even the case against fnatic, zywoo (their only real top player) showed up as usual and they were still crushed. This team is just really inconsistent and dont have anything to give aside of telling zywoo to go and carry their ass in key rounds, thats why its pretty funny to see him talking like theyre a real team when theyre just 4 washed up players being carried by a prodige, wouldnt quite be even a top 20 team without zywoo and everyone knows it
2019-04-02 23:38
Hahahahaha what a humble. Unkown shit since 2015 making one playoffs and now say "we are on top ten"? What a joke.
2019-04-02 23:39
He didn’t ONLY said “we’re top 10”, he said “it showed we’re STILL a top 10 team”, meaning he thought they were way better than Top 10, but the match against faze showed them otherwise. What an idiot
2019-04-03 00:56
#101
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France Ocelot31 
They never ever fought against Faze, you meant Fnatic ?
2019-04-03 00:59
useless team 1v9
2019-04-02 23:51
#88
kennyS | 
United States ADM1R4L 
Top ten team LOL good meme XD
2019-04-03 00:09
#90
ZywOo | 
France bjjthibz 
So many hate comments here. Say hello to #9 team in the world please, cheeeeeeese
2019-04-03 00:10
0/8
2019-04-03 00:25
#154
ALEX | 
France Telt 
That's incredible
2019-04-03 14:22
idk why people hating so much french scene, but i'm glad Vitality and G2 will prove them this year (already began) that it's far from being dead, as they say ...
2019-04-03 14:24
Vitality can stay in top 10 if they remove NBK.
2019-04-03 00:14
Lol, what he thought before the game? top3 or something?
2019-04-03 00:19
#107
YNk | 
Netherlands Polakva 
1x9 team
2019-04-03 02:33
Lol. He’s being humble man. And still got the hate from kids here.
2019-04-03 02:41
not a hate, this is the actual truth. nbk is rubbish, vitality team is a joke
2019-04-03 02:54
top ten is not actual. only top1
2019-04-03 02:54
lul srsly
2019-04-03 02:54
#113
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Australia g00sey 
"on Mirage that we fucked up the first two or three days... what the f*ck happens." HLTV why you censor some things but not others? Not that I'm offended its just weird
2019-04-03 03:25
Missed that one :)
2019-04-03 09:19
It's okay Mr. Milan "striker" Svejda
2019-04-03 09:55
*gets destroyed in a bo3 by the #12 in the world* "Still just a top 10 team" ???????????
2019-04-03 03:44
lululul +1+1+1
2019-04-03 14:14
FRIST
2019-04-03 04:09
#117
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Bangladesh thug_doctor 
Omegalul. Thanks to zywoo for vitality even being top30
2019-04-03 05:17
#118
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CIS Ron1E 
Gets destroyed by tier3 team "We top10 team"
2019-04-03 05:27
#120
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Germany duschsocke 
In no world is Vitality a top 10 team currently lol
2019-04-03 06:19
#180
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Europe Luboss 
NIP LUL
2019-04-10 05:07
#121
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Brazil stewArt1 
oink
2019-04-03 06:41
No one cares about vitality lul
2019-04-03 06:44
i do
2019-04-03 09:01
#167
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Austria TheClemi 
+1
2019-04-04 18:12
Ez for ma Boi NBK
2019-04-03 07:54
#128
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Russia sergeich182 
Not even close to top10, top30 mb
2019-04-03 08:22
#158
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North America AlanSmith 
name 20 better teams than vitality then we will talk
2019-04-03 17:23
#131
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Austria gex0r 
i really love the rise of vitality, you can see them improving every tournament. swapping happy for alex early in the process was also 100% the right move i'm eager to see their ceiling, i think we can't know yet
2019-04-03 09:11
how can you use a match against Fnatic to show you are a top team LUL Fnatic not even a top team
2019-04-03 09:56
there's only 2 good teams, astralis and liquid, rest are like 3 tiers below.
2019-04-03 11:12
Astralis Tier 1 Liquid, Navi, Ence, Renegades Tier 2 rest of the top 12 Tier 3
2019-04-03 11:15
imo liquid better than navi, ence and rng considerably
2019-04-03 11:32
loooooooooooooooooooooooooool this guy is fucking deusional ! please someone tell him that he should deflate his fucking ego woooooooooooow what a dickhead this guy is, their game is poor as fuck
2019-04-03 10:27
#179
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Europe Luboss 
They've beaten ENCE though in a BO1 and BO3 ^^ You probably have no clue what you're talking about anyway like 95% of people on hltv. Tell me some arguments about why "their game" is poor, I promise I won't laugh...well not straight away at least. Don't even bother if you're going to say Zywoolity or that Ence is major fluke. He actually was modest in this interview saying that his team which was ranked #9 in the world was playing like a top 15-10 top team, like it was inconsistent and they need to step up if they want to go to semi-finals in the tournaments to come. Idk, people aren't good in English, that I was aware of but Jesus it's worse than I thought.
2019-04-10 05:01
the day zywoo leave this team, nbk can retire, not even sure he know how to use him tbh
2019-04-03 11:11
imagine being happy you're top 10 in current day cs go lmao
2019-04-03 11:12
#156
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Turkey Fugiart 
LUL
2019-04-03 15:10
They're literally a top ten team just because of ZywOo... lmao..
2019-04-03 15:31
#160
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Germany Deutschland! 
lmao
2019-04-03 19:08
#161
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United Kingdom Xradas185 
Lmao No
2019-04-03 20:09
zywoo play 1v5
2019-04-04 01:12
Without zywoo this team is outside top 50
2019-04-04 10:51
omegaLUL
2019-04-05 09:14
more like "not even"*
2019-04-07 12:15
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