The rise and fall of vsm, Brazil's newest sensation

As DETONA prepare to play their first match in the ESL Pro League, we take a look at Vinicius "vsm" Moreira's quick rise to fame and the circumstances behind his VAC ban.

The news hit the scene like a bomb. vsm, widely regarded as one of the most promising young talents in Brazil, was in November handed an indefinite ban by Valve following an investigation launched by ESL into an old Steam account with a VAC ban allegedly owned by the player. He remains eligible to play in all ESL competitions and will make his Pro League debut tonight, but the VAC ban is a stain that will not wash away and that came at a time when he was being courted by some of Brazil’s most prominent teams, including some of the ones competing abroad.

The 19-year-old burst onto the competitive scene in 2017 and quickly turned into a much sought-after commodity, especially because of his heroics in pug matches with the country’s best and brightest and with community figure Alexandre "gAuLeS" Chiqueta. Before long, vsm was the nickname on everyone’s lips and he drew inevitable comparisons with Marcelo "coldzera" David, who had set the scene alight immediately after leaving Brazil in 2015.

All eyes will be on vsm in Pro League Group D (Photo by Felipe Guerra/DETONA)

vsm required some convincing to leave his team of friends, but he finally did it. After previously snubbing DETONA twice, he accepted an offer from the organisation in July 2018 and immediately made his presence felt, helping the team to secure promotion to the main division of the Gamers Club league and then, weeks later, to win the main tournament after they beat Isurus in the final.

In the months that followed, he continued looking superb, putting in consistently solid performances for the team in every tournament that they attended. But just days after announcing their plans to move abroad in the near future to continue their evolution and take things to the next level, DETONA were rocked by the news of Valve’s ban, which keeps the player out of the Major circuit indefinitely.

Gabriel "FalleN" Toledo and Epitacio "TACO" de Melo were some of the high-profile figures who were caught in the heated debate on whether the punishment fit the crime in this case: vsm’s VAC ban dates back to 2013, when he was just 13 years old; is it reasonable to punish him for the rest of his life for something he did in his early teen years?

Despite the blow, DETONA have been steadfast in their backing of vsm. After the ban was announced, the Brazilian organisation immediately appealed against the decision, which they believe to be unfair. Almost six months have passed and there have been no updates on the case, but DETONA and the player remain hopeful.

"Ever since I started playing CS, I have always wanted to play the biggest tournament," he recently told Mais Esports. "CS:GO then came out and since then my dream has been to play a Major. I believe it will happen someday."

Life has not been easy for vsm since the ban came in. He has often struggled to find the motivation to carry on, in part because of the constant taunts he has had to endure. After his team won the Aorus League 2019 Finals, last month, in São Paulo, he breathed a sigh of relief as he hoped the title would help to silence some of his critics.

"I was able to prove that I am not what people say," he told Mais Esports after the tournament. "Everyone keeps mentioning the Valve ban and a lot of people are just talking shit.

"That is bad for me, but we managed to win and I believe people will not talk as much as they used to. They will believe in our team more."

TeamOne are just one of the Brazilian teams who have kept vsm on their radar, even fielding him as a stand-in in an open WESG qualifier, at the end of last year. So far, every suitor has seen the ban as an insurmountable obstacle, but it begs the question: at what point will a team get so desperate that it will be willing to sacrifice the Majors in order to have a player with such potential in its ranks?

DETONA are currently in Los Angeles to compete in Group D of ESL Pro League Americas. Facing Isurus, Denial and Infinity is hardly the same thing as competing at IEM Katowice, but vsm will grasp this opportunity with both hands to remind his suitors what they are missing out on and that there is more to life than the Majors.

Brazil Marcelo 'coldzera' David
Marcelo 'coldzera' David
Age:
24
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.20
Maps played:
1022
KPR:
0.80
DPR:
0.61
APR:
0.12
Brazil Vinicius 'vsm' Moreira
Vinicius 'vsm' Moreira
Age:
19
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.22
Maps played:
186
KPR:
0.83
DPR:
0.65
APR:
0.14
Brazil Epitacio 'TACO' de Melo
Epitacio 'TACO' de Melo
Age:
24
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.94
Maps played:
908
KPR:
0.62
DPR:
0.64
APR:
0.12
Brazil Alexandre 'gAuLeS' Chiqueta
Alexandre 'gAuLeS' Chiqueta
Age:
-
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
0.54
Maps played:
3
KPR:
0.41
DPR:
0.84
APR:
0.08
Brazil Gabriel 'FalleN' Toledo
Gabriel 'FalleN' Toledo
Age:
27
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.09
Maps played:
1068
KPR:
0.71
DPR:
0.60
APR:
0.11
Legend! Next pls: The "rise" and fall of mibr
2019-04-24 01:07
#10
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Sweden Unluko 
F5
2019-04-24 01:07
Unluko appebiceps
2019-04-24 01:12
Valve please Unban v$m
2019-04-27 18:13
#106
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Australia Matyybro_ 
f5
2019-04-24 02:09
There was no rise of mibr. Just a free-fall since the beginning lol
2019-04-24 01:09
Nt Mibr_is_ovverated
2019-04-24 01:13
#62
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Brazil Whillpull 
Not even a nice try, actually.
2019-04-24 01:33
#304
arT | 
Brazil rickySCE 
+1
2019-04-24 15:22
+1
2019-04-27 07:50
Well yes, but actually no
2019-04-24 08:36
#130
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Brazil AidoNou 
There's the point, such an ease topic to be published
2019-04-24 03:00
#152
Nero | 
China Aachen 
+1
2019-04-24 04:20
#270
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Netherlands juandeag22 
There the only team that faceslept Astralia this year. I mean it's already almost impossible to beat astralis. Imagine beating them 16-2. You need to have a realy solid team to do that
2019-04-24 12:58
faze did 16-5 pretty much the same.
2019-04-24 14:21
everyone can get lucky once in a while. thats the beauty of it all. the beast can even be slain sometimes, but... this beast called astralis is a god damn panzer-armored dragon with five fucking heads.
2019-04-24 21:43
No you dont, there is a shitton of examples of garbage teams beating a good team in a bo1. To consistently beat good teams in bo3s on lan makes you a solid team, bo1 doesnt mean shit.
2019-04-25 12:14
#462
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Netherlands ZoMilan 
Weirdly enough, MIBR can't do any other top 3 worthy shit besides having figured out how to play Astralis.. It seems to me like they're obsessed with beating Astralis and forget the rest
2019-05-07 15:23
+1
2019-04-27 07:50
#35
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Spain TeknoLenin 
Who
2019-04-24 01:14
Mexican scene ? can you tell me any Mexican team that ever got close to be in the top 30 ?
2019-04-24 01:16
#80
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Argentina FuegoDeFenix 
When the country you are from dictates if you can make a joke
2019-04-24 01:45
Brazillian scene? can you tell me any brazillian team that ever got close to be in top 30?
2019-04-24 02:00
NT, Sir
2019-04-24 02:05
yes?
2019-04-24 02:07
Just thought you played your nickname very well in your comment, although the bait could have been better even for the parody's sake.
2019-04-24 02:17
#112
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Finland Weathermen)) 
LMAO
2019-04-24 02:20
Furia,Team One, SK, MIBR,luminosity, immortals :)
2019-04-24 05:02
>Brazil >Being retarded pick two
2019-04-24 11:31
so annoying brazilians
2019-04-24 21:18
#381
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Brazil P4uloVisk 
Sharks, INTZ,tempo storm, vivo keyd, paiN, Gorila core , CoL...
2019-04-25 04:59
#153
Nero | 
China Aachen 
2019-04-24 04:21
Better to be no scene than cheater scene
2019-04-24 06:45
vSm used cheats in 2013 when he was 13 years old, he was just a kid he never tought he would get this far, and he probably never tought he would be a pro player at that time.
2019-04-24 06:52
Still a cheater
2019-04-24 08:11
s1mple banned for ESL anticheat ?
2019-04-24 09:17
Yep fanboys will deny this, but s1mple literally played on a smurf steam account and got caught by ESL Wire anti-cheat
2019-04-24 20:58
#418
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Brazil BAN_ASTRALIS 
SKSKASKSKSAK LOL
2019-04-26 03:22
#294
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Brazil Drikon 
KQLY? LOL
2019-04-24 14:56
Does he play in a French pro team ? No
2019-04-24 18:14
#392
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Germany LYCRIs 
well to be quiet fair, he played as a pro already when he got banned^^
2019-04-25 12:38
Yeah but he doesn't after his ban thats what i meant.
2019-04-25 13:34
#405
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Brazil VinnStriX 
So haven't V$M... what is the fair escuse for not disbanning him?
2019-04-25 18:05
#40
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Sweden kAED 
LMAO
2019-04-24 01:18
#128
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Brazil ragemasterBR 
The rise and fall Mexican cocaine route
2019-04-24 02:52
#154
Nero | 
China Aachen 
mad
2019-04-24 04:21
#254
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United States Trump2020KAG 
LOL
2019-04-24 11:27
#266
Twistzz | 
Canada ASH1 
+1 lmao
2019-04-24 12:04
#271
 | 
Brazil d1rk 
roflmao hahahahaha
2019-04-24 13:00
#295
 | 
Brazil Drikon 
+1
2019-04-24 14:56
#137
 | 
North America ZachS721 
+1 actually started crying I laughed soo hard
2019-04-24 03:14
#448
 | 
India Noobdian1 
No rise only fall
2019-04-28 06:36
#2
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Brazil Shineray 
ez for v$m
2019-04-24 01:06
love this article! he deserves it!
2019-04-24 01:06
#5
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Finland Weathermen)) 
you didn't even read lol
2019-04-24 01:06
ofc #freevsm
2019-04-24 01:10
#245
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Portugal palito334 
Ahahahahahhahahahahahahhaha I'm dying for laugh ahahaha
2019-04-24 10:00
Ahahahahahhahahahahahahhaha I'm dying for laugh ahahaha
2019-04-24 21:15
#6
Sidney | 
Poland XilentEM 
very strong player
2019-04-24 01:06
#7
xccurate | 
Indonesia k1yo_ 
Okok
2019-04-24 01:06
best banned player atm
2019-04-24 01:07
forsaken > vsm
2019-04-24 02:08
#108
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Cyprus aazk 
wow, a great status "the best banned player atm"
2019-04-24 02:10
#113
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United States oflo 
found azk
2019-04-24 02:20
Kkkkkkkk
2019-04-24 02:21
#199
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Austria I_love_Hltv 
+1 lmao
2019-04-24 07:51
hahahahahaha
2019-04-24 17:57
+1
2019-04-27 12:14
#141
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United States PrisMcsgo 
Swag
2019-04-24 03:29
Swag > random tier 3 pugger
2019-04-24 08:49
#290
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Brazil Br4tZ 
swag cant even carry in na tier 3
2019-04-24 14:12
#232
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Brazil LuizMoreno 
Forsaken still hacks so he's the best
2019-04-24 09:31
#449
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India Noobdian1 
Forsaken better
2019-04-28 06:37
#9
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Hungary mEZENCEphalon 
who?
2019-04-24 01:07
#134
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Finland User344 
was hoping you could tell me?
2019-04-24 03:04
#11
NEO | 
Brazil HsTn_ 
sex on the bunker
2019-04-24 01:07
Suspicious plays and VAC on record... Does he really deserves to play?
2019-04-24 01:07
#44
FalleN | 
Brazil Xavanz 
Fan of meyern
2019-04-24 01:23
Fan of every brazilian player.
2019-04-24 01:23
#56
FalleN | 
Brazil Xavanz 
Who is meyern btw?
2019-04-24 01:28
#68
FalleN | 
Brazil Xavanz 
KKKKKKKKKK random
2019-04-24 01:36
"Random" -Xavanz, ouro 3, Lvl 4 GC
2019-04-24 01:52
#94
FalleN | 
Brazil Xavanz 
Vsm wannabe
2019-04-24 02:00
#162
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Brazil Leexo 
kkkkkkk
2019-04-24 04:43
#78
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Brazil arturfelipe 
ARG CS LUL
2019-04-24 01:43
#67
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Switzerland KAISR 
young argentinian talent, really good : hltv.org/player/14737/meyern
2019-04-24 01:36
next Nikom
2019-04-24 01:42
#102
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Canada Noxxz 
Meyern's a great player, he and vsm are certainly the greatest talents from South America scene.
2019-04-24 02:08
so?
2019-04-24 01:27
#49
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Romania cyber8 
Yes
2019-04-24 01:24
Romania have more than tier 4 players?
2019-04-24 01:26
#64
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Brazil Whillpull 
Flag checks out
2019-04-24 01:34
#75
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Romania cyber8 
Yes.Cosmeen tier 3 player that could have a bright future but that has nothing to do with vsm why did you even bring this up?
2019-04-24 01:40
Coswho?
2019-04-24 02:06
Ur mom
2019-04-24 08:20
#204
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Romania KennyShoxie1 
Why bring Romania up? We are talking about vsm
2019-04-24 08:10
He changed his flag... nice fakeflagger
2019-04-24 18:01
#335
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Romania KennyShoxie1 
who?
2019-04-24 18:22
cyber8
2019-04-24 22:48
#231
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Germany KamenFD 
atleast Romania managed to have a team place in top 30, what about Argentina?
2019-04-24 09:28
#234
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Brazil LuizMoreno 
What about Germany
2019-04-24 09:32
#282
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Brazil praxedes 
You know they do have BUG, right?
2019-04-24 13:50
#299
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Brazil LuizMoreno 
Whats that I haven't seen that team recently
2019-04-24 15:15
#336
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Brazil praxedes 
2019-04-24 18:33
Who???? Argentina got #57 in a bad moment of national CS...
2019-04-24 18:02
#203
fer | 
Brazil no1ne 
fan of meyern
2019-04-24 08:00
fan of fer
2019-04-24 18:03
#386
fer | 
Brazil no1ne 
fer have major OMEGALUL
2019-04-25 06:08
2019-04-25 05:42
#13
Aerial | 
Brazil imcyrus 
BRAZILIAN COLDZERA, OPS
2019-04-24 01:07
EZ 4 VAC$M
2019-04-24 01:08
the brazilian coldzera FREE V$M
2019-04-24 01:08
#16
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Brazil damiski 
vac
2019-04-24 01:08
#choraprov$m
2019-04-24 01:08
#18
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Brazil vinnyzeraNTC 
EZ4V$M
2019-04-24 01:08
called out by hltv lol
2019-04-24 01:09
BRA71L
2019-04-24 01:09
#22
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Poland Lukovsky 
I thought it's one of the in-depth analysis of an up and coming talent.. and then the article ended. What was the point of that?
2019-04-24 01:09
Mentioning a loser with a vac ban
2019-04-24 11:46
v$m? more like VAC$M
2019-04-24 01:11
who
2019-04-24 01:11
#27
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Brazil goatzera 
GOD
2019-04-24 01:11
#28
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Iceland SixTap 
stupid for cheating at any age, ban is ban
2019-04-24 01:12
#198
NiKo | 
Slovenia ArlindEl 
So you made all right desicion when you were 15 14 yo?
2019-04-24 07:48
He still is lol
2019-04-24 08:38
#214
NiKo | 
Slovenia ArlindEl 
What?
2019-04-24 08:42
He still 14 yo
2019-04-24 16:28
He's saying he's still 14 or 15.
2019-04-24 16:28
Yes
2019-04-24 11:46
Not vac banned.... so made better decisions
2019-04-24 16:27
#225
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Austria Herb^ 
Yes
2019-04-24 09:06
No one is saying that cheating isn't stupid or that he doesn't deserve to be punished. People just don't agree with the indefinite ban. In real sports you get few year suspensions for doping. He gets indefinite ban when he cheats in matchmaking as a 13 year old? And the thing that makes this whole situation more pathetic is the fact that for years, Valve allowed cheaters to play for extended periods of time so that even if they do get banned, they feel safe to buy a new account. Valve consciously made money off of cheaters at an expense of others, legit players. Yet in situations like these they act like the guy is a fucking spawn of satan for cheating as a 13 year old. What a joke.
2019-04-25 23:14
#29
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Brazil Cariocazera 
big like boltz #freevsm
2019-04-24 01:12
#31
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World nakTriceps 
god v$m
2019-04-24 01:12
#32
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Slovakia Chrisf30 
New rule: Players who received a vac ban under the legal age of the csgo (16 I think) would not be considered as players as they weren't of age when they got banned? Just a crazy idea
2019-04-24 01:13
Seems reasonable
2019-04-24 01:16
#51
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Brazil GKR48 
Good idea
2019-04-24 01:25
#57
Myanmar xdcc 
there are/were some young players playing competitively. cheating at 15 and getting unbanned at 16 would be wierd
2019-04-24 01:31
#125
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Slovakia Chrisf30 
Mb 2 year ban when discovered cheating? But ieam VAC so they can go major
2019-04-24 02:47
So a single wrong (cheating) is dealt less severely than a double wrong (cheating plus playing a game you are not supposed to play). The ban should remain permanent to serve as a deterrent to others. Who is supporting this guy anyway - cheaters?
2019-04-24 03:00
#193
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Slovakia ypsylonnn 
Yesn't
2019-04-24 07:16
#249
 | 
Slovakia Chrisf30 
Ypsylonn cau it's ja felogic z Division 2 xddd
2019-04-24 10:25
#349
 | 
Slovakia ypsylonnn 
ikr, preto som pisal xd
2019-04-24 21:21
maybe if we have functioning anti cheat measures in play
2019-04-24 10:24
All the moral hindsight idiots can't understand this line of thinking. I think cheating at an early age shouldn't be permanent. Perhaps it's a 2-3 year ban until you're 16, at which point any cheating past 16 is permanent. That way you could cheat at 15, and be banned until 18 which still allows you to play competitively. Basically you can be banned until you're considered an adult potentially, or permanently if you're within a certain threshold. I don't think cheating is ok. But I don't think it's ok to ban someone for life for cheating when they were too young to actually understand their actions.
2019-04-24 16:35
#312
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Slovakia Chrisf30 
I totally agree man. As a person who cheated in Minecraft when I was 11years old, compared to me now disgusted by cheaters in CS and playing faceitlvl10 getting there legit without cheats I get that u don't need external crap to get on a high level of just in general good at the game
2019-04-24 16:37
Yeah I mean I never cheated in CS (outside of a joke scrim where we left sv_cheats 1 on). But I know people who have, who became amazing at playing and were simply too young to understand what it meant. Truthfully a 13 year old likely can't compete, mentally or mechanically, against an adult. It's not shocking they do it. The other people I saw cheat were the people who couldn't dedicate themselves, or didn't have the talent required, to improve. They were never going to make something from the game regardless.
2019-04-24 16:53
#317
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Slovakia Chrisf30 
Too bad Valve don't care and they never will, this relates to the IBP incident, they don't give second chances. This is capital punishment.
2019-04-24 16:57
Yeah. I've argued against the players being permanently banned for a while. Especially swag due to his age (easily influenced by older teammates) and the fact there was no precedent for their actions at the time.
2019-04-24 17:20
There is the whole other realm of people that know it's wrong to cheat at that age and do it anyways. I mean seriously: When did you find out cheating isn't the right way to do stuff? VERY early on. Completely unfair to say that a literal adolescent does not understand the concept of cheating and the repercussions behind it, because I've been seeing that statement thrown around often in these scenarios. That being said, for the general portion this is acceptable as a ruleset because it enforces a second chance with PLENTY of even MORE time to think over your actions and face said repercussions, and then you can come back as an adult and try again. However, I highly doubt this will ever be implemented because it would open up a can of worms for things like s1mple's case, KQLY, all those dumpsterfire topics would have everyone outraged and people would want more "justice" frok behind their keyboards. It just wouldn't work well cause it's Valve.
2019-04-24 22:22
You should actually look into how the human brain matures before you throw out your opinions on adolescents and their impulse-driven decision making. There's often a reason children aren't tried as adults in crimes, because they don't actually grasp the understanding of their actions. For most people, until their brain is fully developed, they will have a hard time resisting impulse driven decisions, because they won't realize the cause and effect. This extends into your mid-twenties. Basically, when you mature you will find yourself weighing if the possible response is worth the effort. Anyway, this is why I think it's unfair to punish someone that young indefinitely, especially given they likely made nothing from the decision except punishment. I also don't know how it'd effect situations like s1mple or KQLY at this point, since they are already done and past (and KQLY wasn't a teenager). I mean KQLY will never play on a top team again, and clearly s1mple isn't the person he was when he was banned (which shows how these situations change).
2019-04-24 23:19
Ya thanks for the condescending and passive aggressive response, because I definitely didn't take both psychology and sociology in college and have literally delved deep into understanding why people feel the need to do things like cheat and lie. Save your mansplaining for someone that needs it, child. If you seriously think I'm gunna read your shit after that lmfao you're a joke.
2019-04-25 00:46
So let me get this straight, you took standard fundamental courses (that we all take because they are core) and then threw the applied reasoning out the window to fit your own moral narrative? Am I getting that straight, because that's how it seems. If you're offended by facts, I don't know what else to tell you. Calling me names (instead of, you know, just posting a counter-argument instead of logical deflection) doesn't resolve anything, and if nothing else speaks to my point that sometimes we don't consider our actions before we take them. If you knew what you claim, you'd never have argued in such a profoundly personal way. You judged your own morals against that OF CHILDREN. The only person incapable of being an adult here is yourself. Also there's no "mansplaining" here. I'm sorry if I came off as condescending but it's bizarre how often people forget how easily they were influenced when they were young so they can feel superior to someone else.
2019-04-25 03:41
#453
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Brazil nektroys 
+1
2019-05-01 18:30
#404
allu | 
Sweden Aquaaaa 
So hypothetically, lets say for example that FROZEN cheated when he was playing in Extatus, a decent pro team and he was under 16.. he shouldnt face any consequenses?
2019-04-25 16:47
#34
dycha | 
Poland wojteq__ 
#freevsm
2019-04-24 01:13
#choraprov$mzin
2019-04-24 01:14
#37
river | 
Argentina Tomaas 
Vsm online is PogChamp, but vsm in lan is ResidentSleeper
2019-04-24 01:15
#42
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Brazil ghof 
#freeV$m #choraprov$m
2019-04-24 01:20
amazing player fucked by a stupid decision made when he was a kid, the indefinite ban is completely unfair and should be removed, this guy is a beast and he should be playing majors
2019-04-24 01:20
#116
 | 
Brazil jmarcelo 
#101
2019-04-24 02:21
#120
Per0N | 
Venezuela 643 
you seem to know a lot about South American CS, are you fakeflagging?
2019-04-24 02:35
I'm half brazilian, I've lived in Brazil, Uruguay and Argentina, I know mostly about those three countries as the scene in the balkan region is pretty much dead, except for Valiance of course
2019-04-24 04:25
#324
Per0N | 
Venezuela 643 
Oh, that's pretty nice!
2019-04-24 17:35
#147
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Brazil SecondKS 
+1111111
2019-04-24 03:55
applies to swag then too
2019-04-24 11:57
absolutely
2019-04-24 12:05
#45
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Brazil RyannLP 
EZ4VSM #FREEVSM
2019-04-24 01:23
#47
 | 
Brazil bernog 
VSM <3
2019-04-24 01:24
einmal cheater , immer cheater
2019-04-24 01:24
never heard
2019-04-24 01:24
LEGEND de ak não troca
2019-04-24 01:25
#54
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Brazil trevz 
overrated, never won anything
2019-04-24 01:26
#90
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Brazil lythh 
MIBR won two titles tier 3, vsm won one and a lot of tier 4, so VSM is as bad as MIBR
2019-04-24 01:55
#58
Sunde | 
World sfu 
News that we deserve...
2019-04-24 01:29
I've played with this guy. His aim is insane.
2019-04-24 01:29
#82
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United States Eduzera 
congratz, Faceit or GamesClub?
2019-04-24 01:46
Belive it or not, MM
2019-04-24 02:57
#131
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United States Eduzera 
he plays only pug or MM?
2019-04-24 03:00
Don't know where he plays. I've played Valve's MM with him, just for fun
2019-04-24 03:04
He plays mostly Faceit
2019-04-24 07:07
#446
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Brazil ArtemisS 
Faceit + GamersClub
2019-04-28 04:51
vsm who this bot ?
2019-04-24 01:30
nothing special... just tier3 player
2019-04-24 09:40
Welp cold was also once a "tier 3 no namer". This guy is a talent and you can't deny that , too bad he won't be able to show that in tier 1 cuz no top 20 team will ever get him...
2019-04-24 11:38
i think i cs go its alotof talents but no all they can find good team and show what they can do in t1
2019-04-24 11:44
he's already very famous in brazil,it will open many opportunies later
2019-05-04 02:30
#63
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Brazil Guccipradas 
He is already a monster and have a lot to improve and become a great player in the future..
2019-04-24 01:34
#65
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Europe potatomato 
vsm VAC ban , check HLTV
2019-04-24 01:35
XD
2019-04-24 01:37
Bowie everywhere
2019-04-24 01:36
banned for cheating when he was 13 cmon valve this is full rere
2019-04-24 01:36
that ban sucks :/
2019-04-24 01:37
#71
loli | 
United States credit 
who?
2019-04-24 01:37
a better bot than you @notyou
2019-04-24 01:38
#74
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Poland morosek 
That grandpa is 19? More like 39
2019-04-24 01:40
#163
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Brazil Leexo 
he is FAT
2019-04-24 04:44
#Freev$mzin
2019-04-24 01:42
VAC BOY VSM
2019-04-24 01:46
#83
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Denmark Zorrondo 
literally who?
2019-04-24 01:46
What's the poing in asking "who?" in a hltv post that is literally explaining who he is?
2019-04-24 18:57
he needs attention and you gave him smh
2019-04-25 20:47
V$M THE KING OF LAN HOUSES, NICE ARTICLE, HE DESERVES.
2019-04-24 01:47
#85
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Brazil lythh 
Ye
2019-04-24 01:48
FREE VSM
2019-04-24 01:50
#87
JZFB | 
Brazil kaiknux 
cheated, banned as simple as that. there should be no second chances.
2019-04-24 01:51
So, a person (including yourself) should suffer lifelong consequences from something they did at 13 years old? Got it. Carry on.
2019-04-24 01:57
if he did it one time he can do it again. I do not trust this guy. The ban is deserved
2019-04-24 02:03
So let's set people in jail forever for ant offence , by your logic it would be fine. Steal.something - go to jail forever
2019-04-24 09:56
I never cheated and stole anything and you? People pay for their actions and need to be punished
2019-04-24 17:23
So, lifelong jail for stealing is fine?
2019-04-24 17:31
He is braindead, quit trying
2019-04-25 20:48
Have you never done something wrong in your life?
2019-04-26 21:21
#101
JZFB | 
Brazil kaiknux 
he can do whatever he wants except becoming a pro on an esport he already cheated. you make it sound like ppl getting executed in indonesia for non heinous crimes imagine a game developer forgiving cheaters. suddenly thousands of questions will start to pop up 'who deserves the ban and who doesn't', several ppl with banned clients will start to complain, bla bla bla imagine if vsm becomes s1mple 2.0 ,joins FaZe roster and win a major. the publicity cheating and cheat forgiving there would be. games are not real life, just ban the cheaters, keep it as simple as games should be. it's not like life will forgive you for doing wrong shit anyway... it shouldn't and it won't
2019-04-24 02:10
#170
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Brazil Bertanzin 
s1mple got banned by ESL in 2013 and last year was the best player in the world... Imagine if he got punished by ESL for the rest of his life cuz of something he did in 2013? And he wasn't a child, he was 16, vsm was 13. I'm neither s1mple or vsm fan but these guys have a lot of talent and I like to watch good CS.
2019-04-24 05:02
Best comment of this thread. I totally agree with you. Forgiving VSM will re open discussions about other players’ ban and give an alibi to every 13y/o kid out there who is desperate to become a pro player at any costs. It is an unnecessary move by valve. IMO leave vsm banned.
2019-04-24 05:06
"imagine if vsm becomes s1mple 2.0 but 1smple used to cheat, got banned and then got banned again for avoiding ban lmao. and yet he is able to play in every freaking tournament he wants to. how is this fair? btw there were much more subtop/semi pro players back in the days that used to cheat and become one of the best later in csgo
2019-04-24 08:39
are you incapable of thought at the age of 13? no - great. ban is justified.
2019-04-24 09:06
Lol, that's why at 13 you can't be even prosecuted for crimes in most countries. Lol
2019-04-24 09:57
#88
vsm | 
Brazil Lamonk 
#freeV$M
2019-04-24 01:52
Valve should not hold a ban against this guy from when he was 13. That's just plain stupid.
2019-04-24 01:56
xiter
2019-04-24 01:57
#97
FalleN | 
Brazil Feio91 
VSM DID NOTHING WRONG
2019-04-24 02:04
#111
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Brazil jmarcelo 
he cheated. that's pretty wrong
2019-04-24 02:20
#119
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Brazil Kelmec 
+1 OMEGALUL
2019-04-24 02:29
#103
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Brazil alexwesley12 
#freevsm
2019-04-24 02:08
#105
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Brazil goodfallen 
No respect for cheaters If he wasn't brazillian all of my country would want him banned for life
2019-04-24 02:09
#xoraprov$m
2019-04-24 02:09
Lets see if he can cheat in LAN
2019-04-24 02:17
cheating on LAN was , is and will still possible ;)
2019-04-24 02:43
Yeah like god forsaken
2019-04-24 02:44
#123
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Brazil sprk1 
he got caught, right?
2019-04-24 02:45
Yup, but he cheated in other LAN events before he got caught.
2019-04-24 02:51
He already won on the lan, auros league 2019 vs all knights
2019-04-24 05:21
It was sarcasm btw. Yeah I remember that. Isurus skipped that event.
2019-04-24 05:29
#291
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Brazil Br4tZ 
see, even isurus fear the great VSM
2019-04-24 14:19
Kkkkkkk Isurus forfeited to play another better event than the aorus league.
2019-04-24 17:42
its so easy for v$m, cry is free
2019-04-24 14:43
#180
2019-04-24 17:43
#choraprov$m
2019-04-24 02:21
#FREEVSM!
2019-04-24 02:24
#118
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Brazil Analyst10 
He is actually better than ZywOo! (time will tell)
2019-04-24 02:27
#124
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Brazil donalld 
Lol! he need to practice a lot to get zywoo
2019-04-24 02:46
#390
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United States CallMeNahum 
No he just uses cheats to get him
2019-04-25 10:45
#127
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United States Raptorial 
Who?
2019-04-24 02:51
#133
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Brazil VinidoHS 
EZ4VSM
2019-04-24 03:01
#freevsm
2019-04-24 03:14
FREE VSM!
2019-04-24 03:17
ez
2019-04-24 03:20
#140
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Brazil verybaitguy1 
#FREEVSM
2019-04-24 03:21
Lul he was 13. Why not just say it was his brother who landed the VAC on their "shared" acc?
2019-04-24 03:30
who?
2019-04-24 03:31
online player idk why so much hype around him
2019-04-24 03:34
#145
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Brazil Lawlexinho 
#freevsm
2019-04-24 03:38
He should'nt be playing cs at 13yo cuz cs is a game rated +18 .... But then again.. Every single pro player should be banned for playing underage. They all started playing cs underage. Never tought of that. Omg even the dannish guys. Omg. Some rules are dumb.
2019-04-24 03:40
#151
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Brazil Charizaldo 
He was not banned for playing underage. He was banned to cheat when he was 13
2019-04-24 04:18
i know. i just read #132 and tought of that fact.
2019-04-25 16:17
#433
f0rest | 
Mexico bfish8 
It's an 18+ rated game. Unless your parents allow you to play it. Kind of like R rated movies in the US. Can only attend them if you're 17 or older, unless you have a parent's permission/parents buy the tickets in person.
2019-04-27 07:23
#149
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Brazil ValberBastos 
T.T vsm <3 <3 has already proved himself on lan ...
2019-04-24 04:15
#150
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Brazil Charizaldo 
#freevsm
2019-04-24 04:17
unban him valve
2019-04-24 04:24
GL being a streamer
2019-04-24 04:27
2013 dude jesus valve is srsly fucked up even MMA has two year bans for steroids, but hacking when ur 13yo in a game that you've got no aspirations to ever become pro on at the time screws u up for life
2019-04-24 04:30
So what? He probably ruined a lot of games.. have you never felt frustrated over a kid with 10y/o ruining your game and wasting your time for hours? That’s how I feel when I face a cheater. Karma sucks right? Can’t blame valve for this. He is facing his consequences. Anyways, he can play other tournaments. IMO valve is right setting up the message out there that cheaters will not be tolerated.
2019-04-24 04:41
so a 10yo ruined your experience, you wanna take what could be his career from him? if this was a pro cheating during a tournament it'd be an entirely different thing. you're talking about a kid who decided he'd have some fun one day and got vac banned, how the fuck is that sending a message?
2019-04-24 04:44
I am not taking anyone’s CS career. I am pretty sure he knew what he was doing when he cheated at 13 years old. By the way you talk, you are implying everyone has the right to “have fun and cheat one day” by ruining 9 (or more) other people experience.. It’s not the end of his life though, he can still play other tournaments or find another job. All these pro players will not be pro players forever, they will have to adapt and find something else to do as well.
2019-04-24 04:54
#179
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Poland rude_wredne 
Nah man, this ban is a joke. They banned him cuz vac caught him which means he was using some random cheat from the net. When somple got caught (not by vac, just esl admins) all he received was 1 year ban from esl tournaments. Playing by valve rules you can cheat, just don't get caught by vac :). Valve sending out a message cheaters won't be tolerated? 1. going f2p 2. Every global (not gonna mention lower ranks OR dumb af "trust factor") mm game has at least one cheater in it. 3. Gib perm ban to a promising player because he cheated when was 13 years old. Yass, they really are sending us a clear message here.
2019-04-24 05:23
2. Every global (not gonna mention lower ranks OR dumb af "trust factor") mm game has at least one cheater in it. lmao no
2019-04-24 13:10
#296
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Brazil Drikon 
great comment.
2019-04-24 15:04
how did a 13yo kid "know what he was doing" when he cheated in a video game? he probably just downloaded some shit and tried using it on casual or something lmao
2019-04-24 05:36
If that were true then competitive CS wouldn't have existed. Back then many pros cheated when they were younger.
2019-04-24 07:02
#197
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Poland rude_wredne 
But they didn't get vac ban. Valve logic - > no vac =legit player. It's just sad.
2019-04-24 07:40
#159
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Brazil g4laxI 
Unban pls
2019-04-24 04:32
#160
ppk | 
Brazil 4vengerr 
one of the best players in br tbh
2019-04-24 04:32
boo hoo... he cheated, got caught(at least 1 time officially, im quite sure that he cheated back in 2017/beginning 2018 as well) poor guy! unblan plsss, brs want him so bad
2019-04-24 04:45
#166
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Iceland caverat 
hltv nowdays... zzzz
2019-04-24 04:46
#freevsm the BRAZILIAN FAT COLDZERA!
2019-04-24 04:50
#freevsm
2019-04-24 04:53
LMAO
2019-04-24 05:19
tudo mundo usa cheats en GAMERS CLUB... mas inflado que sus tetas
2019-04-24 05:37
Once a cheater always a cheater. I was 13 once, I didnt cheat And, who????
2019-04-24 06:21
+1
2019-04-24 08:11
im brazilian and never heard of this guy, wtf is this on hltv?
2019-04-24 06:46
#303
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Brazil Danxd22 
Baiter. Ou você é baiter ou você é um mongoloide completo. hltv.org/matches/2329731/detona-vs-rejec..
2019-04-24 15:24
lol sério q tu foi me investigar?: auehauehua vai viver filho
2019-04-24 21:31
#353
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Brazil Danxd22 
O que tem a ver o cu com as calças? Eu faço isso em 3 segundos. "Hur vai viver dur" Mongol.
2019-04-24 22:04
still, never heard about vsm, its just a brazilian noob
2019-04-24 23:14
#363
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Brazil Danxd22 
No, you actually heard. You are just a hater...
2019-04-25 00:01
i literally saw no one talk about him in 2017
2019-04-24 06:56
#189
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Brazil LeloMargera 
#FREEVSM
2019-04-24 06:57
#192
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United States darkun 
13 is pretty young, id say you need to be 17+ caught cheating to be banned indefinitely. if they are confident in their anti-cheat at LANs, it shouldnt matter that he cheated as a 13 year old. with that said i donno who the fuck vsm is lol
2019-04-24 07:09
#194
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Denmark MakeItHappen 
wait, this guy look like 24 years old wtf . hes only 18 ?
2019-04-24 07:25
In Sweden and he'd be 15
2019-04-24 08:18
#195
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Russia Hidd3N_ 
Just let him play against top 10 teams and see him flop.
2019-04-24 07:38
#FREEV$M
2019-04-24 07:52
#201
device | 
Denmark AbhiS 
Undeserved.... He has great future ahead of him.... We all do dirty things when we r a teen... And wise people forgive us
2019-04-24 07:55
Best GC cheater
2019-04-24 07:56
Guess that's what happens when engineers make the rules of a community. Imagine that irl: you cheat in an exam at 3rd grade, you're prevented from ever going to college. You caught f*ing a cousin, castration. FIFA finds out some young player (say Mbappé or Vinicius Jr.) did cocaine before a football match with his friends at school in a distant past, banned for life. That's all ridiculous.. just like vsm's ban. And for those who advocate for exemplary punition, first of all, it's easy to ask for that when you're just looking from the outside and it's not your life that's being jeopardized for cheating in a non professional match at the age of 13, without even having the right to self-defense. And second, imo, it actually hurts the scene: it's supposed to make it look safe against hack, but actually gives the impression that valve is so afraid of hacks, that they can't control it, even in LAN, in their own PCs. #freevsm
2019-04-24 08:33
Your examples are far-fetched and in between, different punishments for different things, that's what laws were created for. Valve just simply doesn't tolerate cheating of any kind at any point in time, that's the rules they agree to when they sign up for a steam account, if you don't appreciate those rules then you get banned. It's not hard to understand. In case you haven't noticed tons of things in life come up from the past, which includes shit politicians did, and all sorts of controversies.
2019-04-24 08:45
It's actually very simple to understand: it's just like medieval mentality of punishment.. but society evolves. Valve just didn't catch up yet. And the example about a young football player isn't far fetched by any means.. it's exactly the same situation, just a different sport. We don't have to just accept the rules, like you suggest.. we can speak up and maybe talk some sense into some of the valve's heads.
2019-04-24 08:59
I cheated before too in a game called Combat Arms when i was like 11 years old and they don't have those sort of rules so the account just gets banned. But it depends, like how a kid might be in prison for something he did when he was young, would be hard to get out even when he's a fully grown adult with a mature mindset. I don't like your examples because they already have rules and punishments in place for them, valve does too and it's a life ban, but it's only for majors not like he can't play pro league. In soccer fifa might ban you for a year or 2 depending on the drug and usage. But it's not permanent and that's already something they set in place, by all means it does not ruin your career but does put a stain on it, valve's punishment is pretty lax if i had to be honest because chances are VSM won't make a major anyways.
2019-04-24 09:05
The fact that there are rules established doesn't mean we can't ask them to change. Imo eSports punishments in general need to evolve to something more modern, in the ways of correction rather than banishments. That alone makes the lifelong sentence absurd, especially considering his age and context of his cheating. People use to think that this would hurt the scene, making people lose confidence in the sport. The other sports are there to prove it wouldn't. There's no doubt Maradona is a legend in soccer that will always be remembered. And he probably won 1986 completely high on cocaine. He was later caught and rightfully punished with a 15 months suspension. And that was it. It never erased his legacy.
2019-04-24 09:45
Changing rules is one thing, and I agree some should be changed or altered. However, to reverse bans from years past, that's a different story. Just like how FIFA has rules for their league, Valve has rules for their games. He fully deserves the ban and it should stay as perceived in the terms of service. Simply put, he never thought about trying to be a pro in the future so he didn't care, but that changes all of a sudden when he can make a career out of it. Your choices can't just be waived, he was never impeded from playing to this very day and if they never caught his old account, he wouldn't dare mention it, so he basically has no conscience to care and if he can get away with it, he will.
2019-04-24 10:17
#435
f0rest | 
Mexico bfish8 
That's retarded. I get your point. Rules are rules, for sure. No player should be able to cheat and then go on to play for a salary. But when you're 13 years old playing matchmaking games with friends from school, there should be exceptions. When it's 6 years after the fact, there should be exceptions. Valve wants to make a "statement". Want to "stick" to the rules of absolutely no cheaters. Then fuckin ban s1mple. The best player in the game who admittedly was cheating in PROFESSIONAL MATCHES.... affecting the earnings and potentially altering the careers of multiple players along the way. Want to say it was only a League ban? not a VAC ban? Then you're either insanely stupid or a dumb pretentious fuck no one likes in real life. To think cheating in League matches where money is on the line is less abominable then cheating in match making is embarrassing. So ass backwards. 1. The VAC banned player didn't buy his cheats and was caught, likely instantly, trying them out in a public server = considering most League/LAN/ESEA servers are NOT VAC secured, but client secured. 2. The PRO player using cheats THAT WERE bought to win money and make a name for himself while advancing his career was able to circumvent VAC but was caught by said 3rd party client. If Valve is able to go back 6 years to make this ruling, after a child grew to become a noticed adult in the community, then they can go back 6 years and ban s1mple, tomorrow. Let the fuckin kid play, you pretentious dumb fucks at Valve who have never once in your entire existence of a company given a fuck about the Counter-Strike brand... Yet luckily, 100% solely due to the community, have made millions of dollars over the last 15 years and have been able to throw money away on terrible projects of your own due to players like VSM and S1mple. Unbelievable.
2019-04-27 07:50
I'll make this short so you won't drown me in salt. I agree that all cheaters should receive the same punishment. VSM's ban is a Vac, while s1mple's is an ESL ban, which is by a 3rd party and is different. That does not mean I think s1mple's case is better, I just think based on the timeframe, and where and how it happened, he ended up getting lucky with just a 2 year ban. However other players like Snax and Hyper have also been ESL banned, probably for similar reasons and it was all 1.6. Last thing, VSM is not the only kid banned for similar reasons, he deserves it nonetheless and changing it at this point would do no good. You cannot change the past, if s1mple was caught by VAC he'd be in the same exact position. At least VSM can still play in professional leagues. Edit: I do believe in 2nd chances, but rules are rules, and no matter how I may insult or scream at valve to do so, it will never change. Because if that's all it took, then Valve would seem like an even trashier company than we deem it to be.
2019-04-27 09:13
your football player example is not the same at all. doing cocaine at a party is a crime completely separate from the sport. if vsm got caught doing coke at age 13 he would still be allowed to play at Majors. if a football player got caught match fixing then yes, a life time ban would be 100% adequate regardless of age, and is a better comparison since its actually related to the sport. its not like he's going to jail or is deprived an education, he's just prohibited from playing certain tournaments in a privately owned computer game that he CHEATED in. he can go fuck himself and if it was up to me he should never be allowed to play online/LAN CS anymore period.
2019-04-24 09:58
#277
s1mple | 
Germany NatsuS 
In Germany a referee took money from another referee (who was charged and in prison) now the referee who took the money is allowed to work for fifa and uefa. I think it is a stupid decision. Lifetime ban deserved. If you aren't blackmailed or sth like that you have to take the consequences.
2019-04-24 13:28
You missed my point on the analogy. I didn't mean doing cocaine as an illegal drug. Cocaine is considered doping in football and even if it was legalized some day, it would still be disallowed in football because it provides unfair advantage.. just like a hack. And he's deprived from following the carreer he chose and for which he has talent. Take your carreer, and imagine that you're disallowed to continue it because you were dishonest in it at the age of 13. Like cheating in an exam at school preventing you from following an academic carreer.
2019-04-24 17:42
lmao trust me when I say taking cocaine the day before a game is not giving you an unfair advantage in football lmao. lots of professional football players use drugs recreationally, no one really cares I do actually work in a business that requires rigorous background checks and if I had a criminal record of any kind, past or present, I would lose my job. If I violate any of the other established rules (like downloading illegal software etc.) I would also lose my job. I knew what I was signing up for though just like he did. Break the rules and pay the price, otherwise find a different career
2019-04-24 22:50
Cheater nap, who gives a shit.
2019-04-24 08:40
hltv and their double standards once again... tons of topics about poor kid swag, who was manipulated into the throw. he was "only 18" and he didnt know what he was doing(omegalul) vsm - retarded cheater that should be never unbanned. once cheater, always cheater. he knew what he was doing(in freaking 13 years) and this is only consequence. karma is a bitch
2019-04-24 08:47
When you sign up for a steam account you agree to valve's terms, he violated it, should stay banned.
2019-04-24 08:49
how does that change what i said? i didnt say my opinion about those bans and if they are imo satisfied or not. i only pointed out how biased csgo community is...
2019-04-24 08:51
I'm just agreeing with what you said, just like how a nation has laws, valve has rules too and age shouldn't be an excuse.
2019-04-24 08:53
Well, but he "signed a contract" as a minor. By most countries' laws that wouldn't even be a valid contract.
2019-04-24 19:02
It's not a contract, it's terms of service, rules, like how a school would have rules for its kids and if you violate those rules you get suspended or expelled. He never signed for anything but did agree to those terms, and he violated those terms. The age requirement is 13 anyways to make a steam account, so by all means.
2019-04-25 01:16
I would've never cheated, being 13 or 33 y/o doesn't matter. It's a matter of mindset.
2019-04-24 08:53
I would say it's a situational thing, but at the same time the ban is only for majors which I doubt he would make anyways, so I don't see a big problem with this. At the very least your mindset changes when you want to partake in a career with the game, so I'd say it depends.
2019-04-24 09:08
+1 i keep struggling in AK ranks in last 3 years and i never think about cheat to rank up. Im suck and im cool with that. For me when you cheat you lie to yrslf.
2019-04-26 08:18
#227
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Russia NOD777 
If you can’t play with cheats you don’t play. Man, he got the best cheaters in past time he should learn from them
2019-04-24 09:14
Im not overly sympathetic. Dont see why 13 year olds cant be expected to have some integrity.
2019-04-24 09:15
I was 13, 20 years ago, i have never cheated once in a online multiplayer game. Every single person that i have played with that used to cheat at one point have proved themselves over the years to not only cheat again, but to be huge pile of shit sooner or later. Sure it's his *career*, give me a break.
2019-04-24 09:44
#230
Dev1 | 
Slovakia Trav1s 
W.H.O???
2019-04-24 09:25
#233
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Japan Yeah_Hentai 
Cheater lol
2019-04-24 09:32
#235
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Netherlands HetIsPatat 
"The news hit the scene like a bomb" Never heard of him, I guess I'm not a part of the scene then 🤷‍♂️
2019-04-24 09:39
#301
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Brazil Danxd22 
Our scene is too big here inside brazil.
2019-04-24 15:17
Our scene is big only here inside brazil.*
2019-04-24 17:10
#342
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Brazil Danxd22 
We have more scene than you and our dutch friend combined. And you guys are from Europe, the home of counter strike...
2019-04-24 20:19
#451
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Brazil trollzeraBR 
+1 rekt britsh guy
2019-04-29 14:23
never heard of him but bans from before you were 16-18 shouldn't ruin your career next
2019-04-24 09:47
at 16-18 they SHOULD count below 15 no
2019-04-24 09:54
he should be banned from every other tournament as well, once a cheater always a cheater
2019-04-24 09:58
cheaters will be allways cheaters, ban is house and car also. ty
2019-04-24 10:16
#250
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Brazil hugoooo 
This thing of cheating as a kid happens a lot... s1mple, fnx and n0thing all cheated years ago and were allowed to play Majors. In some cases, VALVE just decide to ban players, in others not. It's just random it seems.
2019-04-24 10:28
not VAC bans.
2019-04-24 11:55
#276
s1mple | 
Germany NatsuS 
Valve take only action by vac bans. Or by proven match fixing. Last year a Peru Dota team got a lifetime ban for match fixing.
2019-04-24 13:23
#251
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United States Fin4life 
cheaters ruin the game no matter the age....hopefully banned for life....im shocked he is from brazil....
2019-04-24 10:39
1.2 rating vs tier10 teams - OMEGALUL
2019-04-24 11:01
#298
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Brazil Danxd22 
This is where he can play. You don't see that rating very often, even here. He can compete at NA with ease. yuuriih used to be 1,42 rating at brasil, and at NA he's 1.26.
2019-04-24 15:11
And in EU he will be at 0.9 rating ^^
2019-04-24 15:27
#307
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Brazil Danxd22 
There's eu players in big teams wich are bellow that, so...
2019-04-24 15:47
#253
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Australia zanics 
Im in favour of keeping other banned dudes like swag banned but 13 years old? thats too young for a lifetime ban imo. Arguments are made for older teenagers that they knew what they were doing... but 13? imo too young
2019-04-24 11:03
#275
s1mple | 
Germany NatsuS 
There are country's that give a fuck about the age. When you do a crime you get the same punishment as an adult. I don't say it is correct but there are always different pov. Valve give the message "don't cheat you don't have a second chance" and this is fine. The players get no other punishment and they can do what they want. They can still be pros but not at valve tournaments. So it is totally fine with 0 tolerance politics by valve.
2019-04-24 13:17
+1 13 y/o ruining our MMs everyday. Fuck'em
2019-04-24 14:11
#300
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Brazil Danxd22 
If you go outside and kill a people, yet, the punishment would be less than Valve.
2019-04-24 15:15
#323
s1mple | 
Germany NatsuS 
You know you talk shit. If you kill people you get a charge and many years in prison. By valve instead you are free to go you can play any other game at pro level. Valve could di civil charges at match fixing also cheater as well (pubg does it they charged several cheaters). So they can be lucky that valve only ban them.
2019-04-24 17:34
#426
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United States Fin4life 
ok...go outside right now and kill someone...drop us a line when you get out....see you in...NEVER.....
2019-04-26 16:10
#427
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Brazil Danxd22 
I'm not going to do that, retard. It's only an example. Here in brazil especially...
2019-04-26 18:17
+1. Is a Brazilian culture believe when you're Young you can make stupid things and take light punishment. So it is understandable the revolt of many fans of this cheater (they're also cheaters). But what they don't understand is that valve don't care about age they have global rules. It simple, You cheat you out.
2019-04-26 08:09
#255
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Europe rafaumarcisz 
Brazilian Patitek
2019-04-24 11:28
#256
s1mple | 
Russia fnyke 
For some reason i read this story with the voice of David Attenborough in my head as he narrates BBC wildlife documentaries
2019-04-24 11:28
who
2019-04-24 11:47
#freev$m such a potential star
2019-04-24 12:56
#272
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Brazil Collee 
you can't fall if you've never rose
2019-04-24 13:06
#274
s1mple | 
Germany NatsuS 
Why you give a cheater an article? We all do shit in life and sometimes you get punisht for that. If you are innocent okay it is unfair but this isn't the case. Same with guys like brax...
2019-04-24 13:13
+1 for VSM -1 for BRAX
2019-04-24 14:09
#351
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United States Capi___ 
"fan of S1mple" c'mon dude
2019-04-24 21:33
#358
s1mple | 
Germany NatsuS 
Brz17l and MIBR fan come one
2019-04-24 22:59
#361
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United States Capi___ 
S1mple also cheated...so why not ban him?
2019-04-24 23:51
#389
s1mple | 
Germany NatsuS 
Do you check why Valve ban? Then you know why. And it isn't my decision. S1mple had luck/ was smart to don't get a vac ban. As mentioned "We all do shit in life and sometimes you get punished for that. " So next time if you ask stupid question who already answered don't do it.
2019-04-25 09:10
#400
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United States Capi___ 
But it don't change the fact he cheated :D
2019-04-25 16:11
#443
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Brazil killfell 
+1
2019-04-27 19:17
who?
2019-04-24 13:42
#401
s1mple | 
Germany NatsuS 
I don't know I don't care
2019-04-25 16:15
VACation... Toxic player
2019-04-24 13:53
f0rest goat, pleaseeee
2019-04-24 14:08
agree lol
2019-04-24 14:08
#FREEBRAX #BANVSM I don't get why so many people advocates for this cheater lol He was the type of guy who ruins your matchmaking today.
2019-04-24 14:07
#289
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Brazil rgto777 
#FreeV$M
2019-04-24 14:11
#297
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Brazil Drikon 
#FreeVSM
2019-04-24 15:06
sad
2019-04-24 16:38
#314
fnx | 
Brazil ENIMEM 
KScertato > v$m
2019-04-24 16:48
#314
fnx | 
Brazil ENIMEM 
Kscerato > V$M
2019-04-24 16:49
#338
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Brazil lutteqq 
It is a miss for the scenario of CSGO, VSM is a great player with a bright future, he contending with the great has conditions to overcome coldzera. When Coldzera was active in Brazil, he was only one more, he went to compete in competitions outside Brazil and became the world's top 1 player for 2 years. What VALVE is doing is a crime! #FREEVSM
2019-04-24 19:00
Coldzera was never caught cheating. /closed.
2019-04-26 07:53
#340
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Brazil bruno4tw 
mibr with kscerato+vsm top#1
2019-04-24 19:09
vsm start use cheats easy top1 you can forget about top1-3 for mibr....
2019-04-25 00:20
#394
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Brazil bruno4tw 
vsm cheated when he was 13... lol
2019-04-25 14:33
its not change nothing he was cheating :D
2019-04-25 14:33
#396
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Brazil bruno4tw 
tell me more about s1mple...
2019-04-25 14:34
s1mple its top 1 player...
2019-04-25 14:35
he did cheat thoe
2019-04-27 07:18
#341
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Brazil brunocobaia 
#freev$m
2019-04-24 20:10
#346
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Brazil mendAo 
#FREEVSM
2019-04-24 21:16
free this bastard
2019-04-24 21:18
#FreeV$M
2019-04-24 22:19
#364
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Argentina eNatsuD 
#FreeVSM
2019-04-25 00:07
#364
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Argentina eNatsuD 
#FreeVSM
2019-04-25 00:07
#368
titz | 
Libya bzazel 
FreeVSM
2019-04-25 00:18
ban forever VSM
2019-04-25 00:19
#374
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Brazil Guadachuva 
#FreeVSM
2019-04-25 02:22
#freevsm
2019-04-25 02:54
He can play the ESL tournaments, good for him. But I still support Valve's decision to keep the permanent ban He could be young when he cheated but at the same time he broke the company's private rules, wiped out the gaming experience of other players and more that we can not be sure of. No mercy for cheaters. All this past, lesson learned, so good luck to him.
2019-04-25 04:49
#382
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Brazil P4uloVisk 
FreeVSM
2019-04-25 05:01
I just saw his performance and he is a beast..I hope valve does reconsider this, the csgo community deserve to appreciate his talent.
2019-04-25 05:47
Fallen told in a interview with Pala that when he was young he used cheat to test, he was 13 y
2019-04-25 05:59
I saw "banned cheating in his early teens" and then "talented promissing pro player" and I thought this article was about S1mple.
2019-04-25 07:40
#398
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Germany BIG_CLAN 
He should get a 2nd chance imo
2019-04-25 14:43
I'm going to cheat as much as I like UNTIL I turn 16 because the community will support me if Valve catches me and I was under 16 at the time.
2019-04-25 15:09
#406
Maluk3 | 
Brazil Morbin 
#FREEVSM
2019-04-25 18:23
#FREEVSM
2019-04-25 18:28
#408
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Brazil Skrol 
GOD
2019-04-25 19:20
#410
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Bulgaria MaestroGOD 
Wtf is this nonamer? He hasnt risen to fall..
2019-04-25 20:08
Free this legend! GO VSM!
2019-04-25 22:46
#416
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United States Fin4life 
take this off the front page...this asshat is nothing but a disgusting cheater....people like this should be banned for life....cheating POS...
2019-04-25 23:47
#432
fnx | 
Brazil Joao@NTC 
How much bet on isurus
2019-04-27 07:22
sad
2019-04-26 02:28
"New sensation". this guy doesn't deserve this status. He is a cheater and jusst play against bots.
2019-04-26 07:49
How did they know he had a old account with a VAC?
2019-04-26 10:14
probably some butthurt friend or "enemy" knew about it and told everyone
2019-04-27 07:17
#431
fnx | 
Brazil Joao@NTC 
AfaiK his enemies found it after loss and gave to esl
2019-04-27 07:21
#425
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United States Fin4life 
just looking at his face you know he stinks like body odor and piss....GTFO cheater....
2019-04-26 15:45
so you never cheated in any game?
2019-04-27 12:15
#452
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United States Fin4life 
never have...he was 13 which means he knew what he was doing....banned for life...ajajajaj
2019-04-29 23:28
#434
fnx | 
Brazil Joao@NTC 
#FREEVSM
2019-04-27 07:25
Every online cheater deserve this.
2019-04-27 17:42
+1
2019-05-03 21:32
#FREEVSM, he´s proving be a such otherwise player and legit, valve try pass the image that is willing to ban foverer who was banned for cheating in their sv tho, however i play dm everyday and whole dm i play with the same cheater among 6 months
2019-04-27 19:24
#FreeV$M
2019-04-28 04:09
#447
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Brazil ArtemisS 
#FREEVSM brazilian coldzera
2019-04-28 04:52
Ones a cheater ALWAYS a cheater
2019-04-28 08:12
#454
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Chile strong221 
WH OMEGALUL
2019-05-02 20:09
Good article. "...in part because of the constant taunts he has had to endure. " I can just imagine him as a 13 year old using his cheats 'rekt noob' or 'get gud' or 'mad cuz bad?'. I hope he stays banned, people like him ruin the gameplay experience for honest players and taint the entire gaming community with their toxicity. I wonder how many people try CS:GO only to quit within a month because of people hacking, it could be a much better community without people like this guy. It's a shame ESL and other tournament organisers are too weak to also ban him, but at least valve is doing the right thing at present.
2019-05-03 21:31
1+ wise meen
2019-05-03 21:34
vshitm fanboys arguments are soo fking stupid like them. omegalul
2019-05-03 21:37
free vsm
2019-05-04 08:16
Literally the worst team possible for the PRO LEAGUE. Rigged groups lol
2019-05-06 23:15
#463
steel | 
Belarus Ruble 
what a suprise another pro player who cheats :D
2019-05-07 19:03
#464
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China Waxmell 
yo ready for palavra.exe?
2019-05-08 05:44
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