Queso dismiss lineup following match-throwing scandal

Queso and their team have parted ways after evidence came to light that the players had purposely lost a match in the Spanish LVP Superliga Orange.

The announcement followed an investigation launched by LVP into a recent match between Queso and the Tenerife Titans, which the latter team had won 16-14. Queso made a number of questionable plays late in the game, resulting in accusations that the team had deliberately lost the match for seeding purposes to avoid going up against Giants, one of the tournament's favorites, early in the playoffs.

LVP admins contacted the Esports Integrity Coalition (ESIC) to verify whether there had been strange betting patterns related to the match, a suspicion that was denied by the independent regulator.

EMENK was one of the players caught on the server's chat log

Going through the match log, however, LVP found that several of the players had made comments such as "it was hard to lose this round, I don't know why you won the last one," "it's hard to not kill them, I missed 30 bullets shooting him in the back and he didn't even turn around," or "we'll throw on the CT side."

LVP announced that the five players on the team are to be handed a seven-match ban, disqualifying them from the upcoming playoffs, which will take place in June. Following LVP's findings, Queso announced they would not appeal against LVP's decision and that they would part ways with their team as they are not aligned with the values and philosophy of the organization.

Queso's lineup was:

Slovakia Peter "shhhack" Belej
Slovakia Michal "EMENK" Belej
Spain Carlos "sc4rx" Sánchez
Spain Pere "sausol" Solsona Saumell
Spain Omar "arki" Chakkor

Spain Omar 'arki' Chakkor
Omar 'arki' Chakkor
Age:
29
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.94
Maps played:
258
KPR:
0.65
DPR:
0.70
APR:
0.16
Slovakia Peter 'shhhack' Belej
Peter 'shhhack' Belej
Age:
27
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.99
Maps played:
89
KPR:
0.70
DPR:
0.71
APR:
0.14
Slovakia Michal 'EMENK' Belej
Michal 'EMENK' Belej
Age:
20
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.86
Maps played:
94
KPR:
0.59
DPR:
0.71
APR:
0.12
Spain Carlos 'sc4rx' Sánchez
Carlos 'sc4rx' Sánchez
Age:
24
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.94
Maps played:
67
KPR:
0.65
DPR:
0.69
APR:
0.13
Spain Pere 'sausol' Solsona Saumell
Pere 'sausol' Solsona Saumell
Age:
19
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.09
Maps played:
5
KPR:
0.76
DPR:
0.71
APR:
0.13
WTF! GET THEM GABEN! Don't throw matches kids...
2019-05-20 22:03
#4
allu | 
United States muffinner 
rip
2019-05-20 22:02
jejejeje
2019-05-21 06:49
#16
s1mple | 
Sweden Unluko 
LOL
2019-05-20 22:03
CRY!
2019-05-20 23:17
Ibp throw: lifetime ban queso throw: 7 match ban
2019-05-20 22:30
They haven't done it to get money they did it to don't play against V.Giants in the LVP Playoffs, but yeah, it's not enought imo, but not a lifetime ban
2019-05-20 22:37
#125
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Argentina BuscoNombre 
They got banned just 7 days bc they didnt earn any money from bets. They only trolled and throwed an online game on an event they dont even focus
2019-05-20 22:39
Does that really matter though? So they didn't win money. I'm sure at least one person lost a bet on their game.
2019-05-20 22:58
#212
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Portugal martimmfpf 
true though
2019-05-20 23:29
Why do people give a shit about worthless faggot bettors? Why should people suffer harsh punishments because school age children are doing unsupported activities?
2019-05-20 23:50
Because they were the ones to break the rules. Also, maybe their loss had an effect elsewhere in the league. If Tenerife Titans needed 3 points to survive and another team went out of the league due to this unforeseen throw for instance. It's about the integrity of the game. You cannot manipulate the table as you please.
2019-05-21 00:45
Sports betting is common, and when it's the team breaking the rules, the betters are the victims, even if you yourself think betting is stupid
2019-05-21 01:28
#300
Maka | 
Sweden meistr0 
??? IBP players = Threw for money / stole fans/ppls money (obv life ban is overkill) & made IBP leave the whole esports scene (except hosting tournaments) / trashing IBPs name forever. Queso players = Threw to not face Giants in a bo1/bo3 (idk). Aka did no "harm" to anyone except throwing dirt on the org/orgs name Do you see any difference?
2019-05-21 05:18
#326
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Turkey rivaluk 
it doesnt matter if its for betting or not. gambling back than wasnt that far OOOH HE GOT an awp asiimov!! gratz. throwing is throwing, no matter what the reason is. "stole fans/ppls money" you must be joking rn. i guess u didnt even know which map it was ;))
2019-05-21 08:03
+1
2019-05-21 09:01
#338
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Greenland Snakepot 
What about people who bet on them to win, there was harm in that just like with ibp boys
2019-05-21 09:01
#366
Maka | 
Sweden meistr0 
But Queso didnt bet on themselves & throw. They "threw" 1-3 rounds. But IBP did.
2019-05-21 11:27
#161
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Indonesia Astranesia 
throw=throw throw still throw
2019-05-20 22:59
Tru
2019-05-22 08:20
#211
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Spain 7VultuR 
They wanted to end 6th so they could avoid riders and Giants
2019-05-20 23:28
I don't know the specifics of the tournament, but technically speaking this is untrue if they could progress to a higher place in the playoffs and earn better prizes. If there's no money involved it's less important, but I doubt riders or giants would participate if that were the case.
2019-05-21 03:20
They wanted to end 6th so they avoid Riders and giants in playoffs
2019-05-21 12:12
Yes, I know. But I don't know what the rewards are in the tournament. If they won money for placing better, obviously they're going to have a better chance at earning money if they avoid Riders/Giants. Like if you placed 3rd in a tournament with cash prizes, you'll make more than if you placed 6th, do you get what I'm saying?
2019-05-21 19:21
Yea, I mean the 6 best regular season teams go to playoff, and then, if they place better, they earn more money. Queso lost the game to avoid giants at quarter finals so they can qualify to semifinals and earn more.
2019-05-21 19:34
Right. I figured that was what you meant, but I wasn't entirely sure. Basically they should be banned because they're doing it for profit (which was what got ibp banned).
2019-05-21 19:36
Yeah that's some bs, swag wasn't even old enough to bet so he had nothing to gain from throwing the match and didn't even want to throw it but still got the lifetime ban while they got a 7 match ban after actually having something to gain from throwing (an advantage)
2019-05-21 17:05
#234
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Portugal Hfpescador 
scare to play against Giants LUL
2019-05-20 23:49
#269
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Portugal Dann1x 
If they lost just to don t get Giants they schouldn t be banned they were just smart
2019-05-21 00:49
#343
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Spain Seo0k 
8/8
2019-05-21 09:10
#363
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Portugal hybridz 
its called fairplay ... throwing =/= fairplay
2019-05-21 11:05
#393
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Portugal Dann1x 
u see teams doing it in every sport ex:world cup
2019-05-21 19:00
#3
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Europe HLTV_Incel 
wow i am in shock
2019-05-20 22:03
#5
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Belgium jorneiro 
Valve hello
2019-05-20 22:02
who cares? none of them will ever get close to play in a valve sponsored tournament (aka major/minor)... doesnt really affect their careers :)
2019-05-21 00:03
+++(1)
2019-05-21 08:22
#8
kNgV- | 
Italy InSuu 
Xd
2019-05-20 22:03
LOL
2019-05-20 22:03
BANNED FOR THROWING OMEGALUL
2019-05-20 22:03
my mm team also throw my last gold nova game can you post this in hltv please??
2019-05-20 22:07
#97
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Denmark Dy_Arceus 
LOL beat comment. XD
2019-05-20 22:24
#130
Xizt | 
Italy HeSY 
+1 nice bro
2019-05-20 22:41
#192
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Portugal Pato_Gula 
+1
2019-05-20 23:15
#194
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Portugal S!im* 
lmao xD
2019-05-20 23:15
#279
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Europe sn00b_d0gg 
xdddddd
2019-05-21 01:35
#284
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Peru AgentLF 
+1 lmao
2019-05-21 01:45
#332
shrek | 
New Zealand is_love 
xd
2019-05-21 08:40
#336
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Russia parovozik 
thats disgusting
2019-05-21 08:48
#340
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Portugal Rupa_PT17 
+1
2019-05-21 09:05
Cunteronies
2019-05-20 22:03
Lol
2019-05-20 22:03
#15
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Spain sergio9766 
My country what a surprise
2019-05-20 22:03
Spaniards need to take all chances to get some money nowadays
2019-05-20 22:05
#122
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Portugal D1recT 
Actually it was to get to the semi finals
2019-05-20 22:37
They didn't get money for throwing
2019-05-21 13:18
=). No
2019-05-21 01:08
#17
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Other NDRnews 
xd i saw this game and was so fucking obvious Queso vs Tenerife titans
2019-05-20 22:03
#241
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Germany midas1 
Sausol in 29th round xdddd
2019-05-21 00:04
how are u bitches so fast
2019-05-20 22:03
Lmako
2019-05-20 22:03
T'Challa
2019-05-21 11:53
#20
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Finland Smoonah 
Queso dip
2019-05-20 22:03
please fucking more investigation in matchfixxing!!!!
2019-05-20 22:03
#93
fnx | 
Brazil Joao@NTC 
bro imagine if they didnt write this in the game chat they wouldnt even be banned rn and thats like the most basic thing u could do, i mean u should avoid even using steam chat for this shit, but game chat.. just shows hows this is a long gone thing... if they didnt even care
2019-05-20 22:22
exactly my thoughts bro exactly that imagine how easy it is to avoid I mean you basically explained it and yes it is easy for sure!
2019-05-20 22:24
#118
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Portugal VascoRB 
they record the team speek on lvpes
2019-05-20 22:36
it was probably the teamspeak logs, not the in-game chat logs
2019-05-21 10:41
#360
fnx | 
Brazil Joao@NTC 
open PDF, it was game chat logs (team chat) you can see there commands such as say_team jajaja this is from server log
2019-05-21 10:53
i would say "spanish iq" but 1st of all, jonathan would ban me and 2nd, all spanish people would attack me so nice
2019-05-21 10:55
#22
NiKo | 
India Sishir 
Valve : It's ban time!
2019-05-20 22:03
#24
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Spain Ikerja_99 
soy español a que quieres que te gane
2019-05-20 22:04
#44
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Cyprus Swishh_ 
+1
2019-05-20 22:06
#170
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Spain GamerGuillem 
+1
2019-05-20 23:03
#292
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Chile Lionel_Hutz 
+1
2019-05-21 02:53
#303
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Argentina hairybutt 
2019-05-21 06:04
#345
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Spain Seo0k 
Delete that
2019-05-21 09:13
#382
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Argentina hairybutt 
yes
2019-05-21 14:42
#344
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Spain Seo0k 
+1
2019-05-21 09:12
#25
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United States nword_shoe 
yikes
2019-05-20 22:04
#26
oBo | 
Spain droh 
Pathetic...
2019-05-20 22:04
#27
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Finland Hypotoxic 
lul
2019-05-20 22:04
#28
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Finland CucumberFIN 
NO STEEL?
2019-05-20 22:04
Deserved
2019-05-20 22:04
#30
ZywOo | 
Argentina imho1 
Perma inc
2019-05-20 22:04
This is a problem with format, they didn't throw for money or skins
2019-05-20 22:05
Yeah i am thinking like you But you must be punished if you write in chat or smthng like that. Its players's fault
2019-05-20 22:15
#100
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United Kingdom alcaz4r_ 
+1
2019-05-20 22:25
Well, they wanted the easier way through the playoff to reach the money, so pretty much threw for money.
2019-05-20 22:35
#216
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Portugal martimmfpf 
yes exactly, and still, there were betting sites that had this game in them, so people lost money cause of their throw
2019-05-20 23:31
#288
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Spain dabehx 
Fuck bettors tho
2019-05-21 02:12
#356
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Portugal martimmfpf 
agreed
2019-05-21 10:15
#32
yuurih | 
Brazil frkkZ 
unexpected
2019-05-20 22:05
#34
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Sweden Trkmag 
IBP 2?
2019-05-20 22:05
x DDDDDDDDDDD
2019-05-20 22:05
#392
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India Tritium 
x D
2019-05-21 18:23
#36
SOKER | 
Spain jdiazz 
<3 <3 MY country.
2019-05-20 22:05
Mine too somehow
2019-05-20 22:45
#264
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North America codered433 
Mine too?
2019-05-21 00:42
#346
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Spain Seo0k 
TF?
2019-05-21 09:13
#38
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Spain NkdKMS 
Expected
2019-05-20 22:05
#39
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Portugal B1az3d 
Trying to avoid giants in playoffs its hard hahah nt nt
2019-05-20 22:05
#339
ile | 
Finland Vkims 
You surely are bad if you arw afraid of giants
2019-05-21 09:05
#347
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Portugal B1az3d 
How can you forget that 1year ago no one also believed on ence
2019-05-21 09:14
#352
ile | 
Finland Vkims 
I surely believed them, if you cant see what upcoming team is then its your problem
2019-05-21 09:19
Spanish scene, I'm not surprised xD Have a nice day: keep_SOKER_ffs
2019-05-20 22:05
#41
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Cyprus Swishh_ 
Unlucky
2019-05-20 22:05
malucky
2019-05-22 14:12
#42
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Europe R2D2s 
XD
2019-05-20 22:05
#43
NEO | 
Poland Mimaaacz 
Oh finally some good fuckin drama
2019-05-20 22:06
Lmao nt Queso
2019-05-20 22:06
#46
dycha | 
Poland wojteq__ 
Ah shit, here we go again.
2019-05-20 22:06
Talking about throw in team chat. 200iq
2019-05-20 22:06
#349
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Spain Seo0k 
Also LVP records the TeamSpeak during the match
2019-05-21 09:15
X D. IQ200 players
2019-05-22 14:08
#48
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United States gtmaniacmda 
They could have just forfeited, right? Why throw instead?
2019-05-20 22:07
I don't think so, in many leagues that is punished aswell.
2019-05-20 22:08
#63
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United States gtmaniacmda 
That's dumb IMO, for example it isn't rare for teams doing well in the NFL (American football) to put in their worst players at the end of the season to rest the best players. It isn't a great analogy, but basically what I mean is why, if a team doesn't WANT to win, why must they be forced to win? If they don't want to, they shouldn't be forced to!
2019-05-20 22:11
Yeah it is. As I said in another comment, what they did is not uncommon and should not be punished. Anyways to write about it is stupid nonetheless
2019-05-20 22:13
#69
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United States gtmaniacmda 
bUt ThInk oF tHe BeTtOrS
2019-05-20 22:14
smart people would have known the fact that they had no reason to win the game. The addictives not doing research, idk their fault
2019-05-20 22:16
#80
Bug | 
Brazil TTB 
But what if they told a friend, by example.... Id put 1000 dollars if i knew for shure someone is going to lose!
2019-05-20 22:18
Thatd be match fixing than.
2019-05-20 22:20
#90
Bug | 
Brazil TTB 
How do you know this doesn't happen?
2019-05-20 22:22
"LVP admins contacted the Esports Integrity Coalition (ESIC) to verify whether there had been strange betting patterns related to the match, a suspicion that was denied by the independent regulator."
2019-05-20 22:32
#119
Bug | 
Brazil TTB 
"Bum Genius" Read the whole thing hehe TKS
2019-05-20 22:36
He proved you wrong. Imo this shouldn't be punished. Losing on purpose to go up against an easier opponent on the next round is common in sports.
2019-05-21 08:43
Unsportsmanlike conduct. Sports are about people competing to win. If you don't wanna win they don't even play competitively.
2019-05-20 22:51
#246
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United States gtmaniacmda 
They are competing to win, by not winning now so they can win later. It’s called STRATEGY.
2019-05-21 00:15
#350
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Spain Seo0k 
On LVP the round difference is important (as in other many events and leagues) and a 16-0 instead a 16-14 can change things a lot
2019-05-21 09:16
Proud of my country🗿🗿
2019-05-20 22:07
Honestly this is wayyyy better than to throw for money. Like throwing for seeding happens all over different sports in the world, and actually is the fault of the system not the players. To be that dumb and chat about it is braindead at best xD
2019-05-20 22:08
#51
Boom | 
France mbl4 
Lmaooo, 7 matches isn't a big punishment for throwing
2019-05-20 22:08
#52
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Germany VeryColdGuy 
WHERE IS QUESO STICKERS
2019-05-20 22:08
still chinese teams european teams cis teams are out there throwing the most obvious way but noons investigate those..
2019-05-20 22:09
IBP
2019-05-20 22:09
#56
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Other DiploxOP 
It wasn't a matchfixing guys, just threw for avoiding giants on playoffs
2019-05-20 22:09
#146
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Portugal AgenteDoFox 
+1
2019-05-20 22:52
#257
fer | 
Portugal Waakh 
+1
2019-05-21 00:30
+1 but there must be some salty bettors who wants them to get banned
2019-05-21 07:11
BAN
2019-05-20 22:10
Valve gonna pull another ibp
2019-05-20 22:10
I LOST A EXPRESS MATCH BET CUZ OF THIS MATCH..... BAN THESE RETARDS THROWERS
2019-05-20 22:10
#60
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Finland NotEz4Ence 
OOF
2019-05-20 22:10
#61
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Spain iBuyQueso 
Spanish scene boys...this stuff does us no favor
2019-05-20 22:11
Spanish cs afraid of Portuguese cs as per usual. full focus fast ban for the throwers xd
2019-05-20 22:12
xdd plz ban volvo
2019-05-20 22:13
throw in 2019 xD
2019-05-20 22:13
#70
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Lithuania KoksSkirtumas 
ye, and what max bet on those games? tier10 team, probably max bet should be around 100-200e~ ?
2019-05-20 22:14
#72
Turkey ckr^ 
unluko
2019-05-20 22:15
dont see the problem
2019-05-20 22:15
#75
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Spain akproxx 
JAJAJAJAJAJAJA IDIOTS
2019-05-20 22:16
So... they didn't find any bets which would confirm real throw but rather in game message that they will throw at ct side? LOL
2019-05-20 22:19
#94
fnx | 
Brazil Joao@NTC 
yeah maybe they were talking about throwing some nades kappa
2019-05-20 22:24
#83
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Argentina FuegoDeFenix 
Why did they really throw?
2019-05-20 22:20
#181
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Spain loviac 
Seeding
2019-05-20 23:09
#232
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Argentina FuegoDeFenix 
What's that
2019-05-20 23:42
#239
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Germany T1MEL0RD 
if they lose they get worse opponents in the next round (because they're seeded lower).
2019-05-21 00:02
#258
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Argentina FuegoDeFenix 
But they will have to face giants eventually, or someone better
2019-05-21 00:31
usually prizes are different for reaching different stages of league, so they throw match for reaching 1/2 instead of losing in 1/4 for example
2019-05-21 09:07
queso stickers going up in price!!! time to invest mens(((
2019-05-20 22:20
#351
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Spain Seo0k 
No stickers F
2019-05-21 09:18
Why would they ban a team for that... My god this is so stupid. If they wanted to play full pugstyle nothing can stop them! If they wanted to avoid Giants it's a pretty intelligent move. And what about in real sports when they don't align the best players from a team just because the match has no importance in the qualification process because they are already qualified ? This is so fucking stupid.
2019-05-20 22:20
#138
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World breezy0 
+1
2019-05-20 22:49
+1
2019-05-20 22:59
#218
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Europe m9_ 
thats completely different than trying to lose for seeding. its pretty retarded how they seeded that tournament probably or giants just got upset but youre comparing apples to oranges
2019-05-20 23:32
#253
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Europe O1ek 
+1
2019-05-21 00:19
+1
2019-05-21 12:01
2019-05-20 22:21
#88
ropz | 
Sweden S1gne 
They should get a ban just like the IBP bans
2019-05-20 22:21
They shouldn't, they do it to avoid Giants not to earn money
2019-05-20 22:24
#186
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Spain loviac 
Useless actually they'd never participate in any relevant tournament
2019-05-20 23:11
I WAS HERE SPANISH IBP
2019-05-20 22:22
#92
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Poland misioneos 
but they didnt throw it for money LUL
2019-05-20 22:22
Lord gaben get them for the dark lord chin chin
2019-05-20 22:24
feelsbadman. throw for avoiding seed = ban throw for money = all good
2019-05-20 22:24
#102
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World Notb8ing 
didn't even throw for money LUL, deserved still tho, maybe not worth a ban by valve tho.
2019-05-20 22:26
#103
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Portugal YANRAZA 
That's cheesy.
2019-05-20 22:27
#105
Thorin | 
India Dem1se 
wait, why would they chat that shit, don't they k ow it logs and that it can be seen in the demos 😂
2019-05-20 22:27
#106
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Finland spin-o 
Whatever happened u must be a fucking idiot to play the game and lose on purpose, gl for the rest of your lifes throwers
2019-05-20 22:27
#372
fas7 | 
Portugal dyds 
10IQ
2019-05-21 12:06
#107
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Sweden godname 
NOOBS
2019-05-20 22:28
IBP2.0
2019-05-20 22:28
XAXAAXXA
2019-05-20 22:31
#111
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Portugal ItsAvenn 
AHAHAHAHAHA IDIOTS QUEJOOOOOOOOOOO
2019-05-20 22:31
#113
NEO | 
Ukraine s1v9mple 
Expected from Slovak scene
2019-05-20 22:32
#114
NEO | 
Ukraine s1v9mple 
Only STYKO good boy
2019-05-20 22:32
#115
ZywOo | 
Latvia `DinGo 
Dumb fucks
2019-05-20 22:34
lootbet cups, ucc cups and other shits matchfixers tournaments still going what the fuck volvo?? mb do smth??
2019-05-20 22:36
any video of that game?
2019-05-20 22:37
thx
2019-05-20 23:35
Guy is cheating
2019-05-21 07:48
Time for a permaban, wonder how much money they got
2019-05-20 22:37
#128
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World Notb8ing 
they didn't, they just throw to get easier opponent in playoff...
2019-05-20 22:40
Wow I did not know the details. It maybe unethical but I see this as strategy.
2019-05-20 23:10
#204
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World Notb8ing 
Yeah, doubt it will be ban by valve, I can get it tho they would get ban by organizer
2019-05-20 23:25
Not that much
2019-05-20 22:41
#124
NAF | 
African Union dAnk7 
valve if you see this can you add karambit sapphire to my inventory thank very much
2019-05-20 22:38
#126
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Poland Julka 
Lmfao
2019-05-20 22:40
#127
Per0N | 
Venezuela 643 
Ah, so they can't throw a match to avoid playing vs a better team? No illegal bets were found, don't try to be some idiotic moralist by banning them. The punishment they got from queso is the only one we can accept as reasonable
2019-05-20 22:40
No, they can't. The LVP states in their rulebook that losing games on purpose is not allowed. The club and the players agreed to those rules. They can always not participate in this league, but then they would say goodbye to their salary (not that it matters anymore). Obviously if they want to throw games they can do it, but they did it so obvious and leaving clear evidence behind that it was inevitable for them to be punished.
2019-05-21 00:34
#267
Per0N | 
Venezuela 643 
Of course i said something without properly studying it. Ty for clarifying it buddy. Anyway, nobody should go through without punishment being this dumb. They deserved it.
2019-05-21 00:45
#318
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Spain Playcalixto 
Carlos "sc4rx" Sánchez He's a Venezuelan player esports.as.com/counter-strike--global-of..
2019-05-21 07:16
#385
Per0N | 
Venezuela 643 
And...?
2019-05-21 15:24
#394
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Spain Playcalixto 
...and why does he display the spanish flag?
2019-05-21 19:14
#131
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Germany owjdb 
ah shit here we go again
2019-05-20 22:42
#132
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African Union mikecool 
Pretty stupid move by them. Now they have this reputation that will be memed for eternity.
2019-05-20 22:42
"it's hard to not kill them, I missed 30 bullets shooting him in the back and he didn't even turn around," lol I need to see the VOD
2019-05-20 22:47
AHAHA THAT IS SO OBVIOUS LMAO
2019-05-20 23:10
#188
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Spain G3CK0 
Yeah the other team is so fucking bad. They had to be that obvious and they lost 16-14. In the match log you can actually see how they were mocking how hard they had to throw in order to lose xd.
2019-05-20 23:12
Do you have any other short clips like this?
2019-05-20 23:12
#190
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Spain G3CK0 
twitter.com/_Pitu_/status/11283885199096.. This thread has some of them
2019-05-20 23:14
hahah ty
2019-05-20 23:15
#197
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Spain G3CK0 
Np ahahaha
2019-05-20 23:16
thanks, as bad as I imagined
2019-05-20 23:38
#135
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Spain Donra 
Omg...
2019-05-20 22:47
How fucking dumb can you be? If you're gonna throw a game don't talk about it IN THE GAME CHAT wtf
2019-05-20 22:49
#217
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Spain Dicraftio 
Even if they didn't write anything, it was so obvius that the casters said it before the match ended
2019-05-20 23:31
#137
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Yugoslavia HeavySmoker 
Glad that valve don’t care as always Esea, nox fire, lootbet = everything is legit ))
2019-05-20 22:49
#139
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Spain ANUEL_AA 
r*t*rds
2019-05-20 22:51
#140
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Denmark lulgod 
Time to ban the 50 loot bet teams :D
2019-05-20 22:51
#142
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Portugal AgenteDoFox 
They did they will not play vs Giants in playoffs now ahhaahhaa
2019-05-20 22:53
they didnt even get skins for it smh
2019-05-20 22:52
#148
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Portugal AgenteDoFox 
It was to avoid playing Giants xD
2019-05-20 22:53
#163
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Indonesia Astranesia 
LOL they are pussy
2019-05-20 23:00
#166
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Portugal AgenteDoFox 
The team they play against was so bad that they just lost 14-16 Iberian CS LUL
2019-05-20 23:01
#147
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Brazil MauricioRoy 
Spanish CSGO OMEGALUL
2019-05-20 22:53
IBP = perm ban Queso = 7 day match ban FAIR XDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXD
2019-05-20 22:53
#154
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Spain G3CK0 
Ibp= throw for money Queso=throw for skins
2019-05-20 22:57
#180
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Brazil hugoooo 
...everybody sells skins for real money.
2019-05-20 23:09
#185
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Spain G3CK0 
Fuck I said skins? I meant seeding. My bad. Queso were trying to avoid a team in playoffs, and they had to lose in order to do that.
2019-05-20 23:10
#150
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Korea clarityyyy 
Hi Richard Lewis
2019-05-20 22:54
Erm - what the fuck? If there is no betting, leave them the fuck alone. You are responsible for the system you draw up. There is no obligation on the players to play their best. It might be unsportsmanlike, but the real fault lies in the tournament structure.
2019-05-20 22:56
#165
Ant1ka | 
African Union a2wai 
so if they throw without getting a money just not to play vs Giants they should be punished too. Throwing games is throwing games even if money aren't a stake.
2019-05-20 23:01
No, throwing for the purposes of a bet is match-fixing, which is a criminal offence and wrong for all kinds of reasons. Throwing because you want a particular seed is nothing comparable. Their mistake here is that they made it too obvious - they could just have done a better job of it. If those voice recordings were not available and those "questionable plays" were less questionable but still bad, no-one would be batting an eyelid.
2019-05-20 23:05
Regardless if they bet on it or not, some people lost money because they threw.
2019-05-20 23:08
And others won money. That's how betting works.
2019-05-21 00:20
the rules of the league say that you can't purposely lose! so they were banned in the league
2019-05-21 13:51
Ok, I can understand that.
2019-05-21 14:43
Wow in soccer they do It ALL the time
2019-05-20 22:57
really?to avoid Giants?you have to beat the best to be the best
2019-05-20 22:58
#172
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Spain GamerGuillem 
Yeah i mean the same bro, they justo do it for seeding
2019-05-20 23:05
They do it football in group stage but in cs it's just stupid
2019-05-20 23:23
#159
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Spain G3CK0 
This happens in every single traditional sport every day. Good to see that cs takes it seriously
2019-05-20 22:58
#160
arT | 
South America misterf 
IBP from spain. What a shame
2019-05-20 22:59
#164
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Argentina luchinade 
OmegaLUL
2019-05-20 23:00
Blame your shitty tournament format where you stimulate teams to lose like this where they can be punished with bad seeding for win.
2019-05-20 23:01
#169
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Dominican Republic yolinho 
there is mooooooore rigged game at shit tier cs:))
2019-05-20 23:02
#171
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Belgium bioZARRRD 
Juicy
2019-05-20 23:04
ahhh shit here we go again #freeswag
2019-05-20 23:08
#176
XeqtR | 
Hong Kong wqnxy1 
Arki is the only name i know here lol :D
2019-05-20 23:08
#177
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Brazil hugoooo 
Ban these five fucks forever.
2019-05-20 23:08
#224
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Spain Dicraftio 
They threw last 5 rounds only to avoid seeding so I think it isn't that big of a deal, although i think they deserve a heavier ban
2019-05-20 23:34
this happens/used to happen on LAN aswell why punish lmao its format fault
2019-05-20 23:09
#179
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Australia alf_au 
I'm excuse me... where's the lifetime ban? iBP throw the yh get lifetime. These underdogs throw and they get 7 match ban... almost like it's a matchmaking competitive cooldown
2019-05-20 23:09
#215
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Brazil CaioOlive 
Well, until now, I've always thought it wasn't because they threw, but because they had bet on the other team, doing it to make money, while they just wanted a better seeding. I don't think throwing games should deliver people bans, because, you know, it's your game. iBP did deserve, but also not lifetime ban as well.
2019-05-20 23:30
#369
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Australia alf_au 
yeah i guess
2019-05-21 11:52
They threw for seeding (to avoid giants and only play against riders in final), not for money
2019-05-20 23:10
Windigo when????
2019-05-20 23:12
#195
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United States @FyreCS 
Spain the new India hate First Optic India, now Queso xaxaxaxaxa
2019-05-20 23:15
they only wanted a better seeding, but match chat was really amazing. You can hide strats, play relaxed but u can not miss shots and laugh like they did...
2019-05-20 23:16
Wow. How unprofessional of them. They should really ask Faze for some tips on throwing games
2019-05-20 23:17
Pff.. Ashamed. Wasn't easier just to forfeit the game?
2019-05-20 23:24
#231
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Spain emCee_ 
+1 Or simply dont write stupid things in the chat or miss easy shoots deliberately xD
2019-05-20 23:41
Hahahaha how can u be that stupid to write on the chat that u are throwing lmao Losing a match to not face a specific team is pretty usual on cs.
2019-05-20 23:26
voy rush medio saludos.
2019-05-20 23:26
#208
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Croatia gmchanger97 
Pros dont throw guys!!! Btw copenhageb flames 2nd map today.. lost couple of 5vs3 on CT side inferno with T's being low mostly because they didnt want to shoot them for some reason and then destroyed other two maps.. throwing is too little to say
2019-05-20 23:28
>Copenhagen flames >pro team Pick one
2019-05-21 00:34
Better than any spanish,portugese team
2019-05-21 06:59
#353
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Spain Dicraftio 
Nt
2019-05-21 09:58
Giants 16-4 Nip
2019-05-21 12:36
+1 lmao He must be an ironic NiP fan cuz you can't self-own that badly on accident
2019-05-21 13:47
bo1
2019-05-21 14:36
16-4
2019-05-21 15:08
This still happens huh
2019-05-20 23:27
#210
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Brazil CaioOlive 
I mean, what was the problem again? They can lose if they want to, right? iBP deal was because they had bet on the other team, no?
2019-05-20 23:27
#214
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Croatia gmchanger97 
They had bets cause they noticed strange betting patterns
2019-05-20 23:30
#220
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Brazil CaioOlive 
No, I think they wanted to see if strange betting patterns happened, but the org there denied it, meaning it was only for seeding.
2019-05-20 23:33
#228
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Croatia gmchanger97 
Oh yeah it says different here.. when it first happend everybody said and talked about large money on tenerife.. i mean odds were pretty big so small amounts on them will bring you big amounts of money and you cant prove it
2019-05-20 23:36
#230
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Spain G3CK0 
There was no money involved. Just losing for seeding.
2019-05-20 23:40
#255
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World Notb8ing 
Even if there was bets problem is you can't simply say just because there is some weird bet it is fixed, pretty obvious there are people anyway who know this team would benefit from losing the match, might be worth a gamble to bet opponent in such case as one team is motivated to win whereas one actually would benefit from losing : ...
2019-05-21 00:27
#213
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Spain elskio 
I was don't know this details.
2019-05-20 23:29
#219
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Croatia gmchanger97 
I wasnt not dont on english class not
2019-05-20 23:33
hahahahahahahahahahahah
2019-05-20 23:53
#251
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Spain elskio 
newfag
2019-05-21 00:17
What if they won vs giants lol
2019-05-20 23:33
#223
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Spain acopalipsa 
And what's the bad point on loosing on purpose to avoid a hard next match? It's not like cheating or something, I don't give a fuck about this team or these players but this kind of situations are habitual on every sports and it's just tactical. Anyway, they are so dumb, just don't make comments about it in game chat lol
2019-05-20 23:34
#226
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Spain Dicraftio 
They could just forfeit the match if they wanted
2019-05-20 23:35
#242
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Germany PeKay 
I think u skipped the betting Part
2019-05-21 00:07
#252
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World Notb8ing 
"VP admins contacted the Esports Integrity Coalition (ESIC) to verify whether there had been strange betting patterns related to the match, a suspicion that was denied by the independent regulator."
2019-05-21 00:17
Ian Smith said that this coalition was a puppet and utterly corrupted btw. He is an expert in those things and exposed the mafia in cricket. Bookies often *investigates* strange betting patterns that are out of this world and would legitely never happens, but they still settle the bets afterwards as if nothing happened.
2019-05-21 02:24
Gallego rancio
2019-05-20 23:36
#233
Dio | 
Japan Jotaro 
Ibp pog
2019-05-20 23:47
arkii was good back in time
2019-05-20 23:53
#238
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Europe aNCIOn 
using in game chat Pepega
2019-05-21 00:00
#243
easy | 
Finland ENCEL 
Expected from a Spanish Slovakian mix...
2019-05-21 00:08
#319
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Spain Playcalixto 
2 spanish 2 slovakian 1 venezuelan esports.as.com/counter-strike--global-of..
2019-05-21 07:20
Spanish teams afraid of playing against Giants. LUL
2019-05-21 00:10
FEARGIANTS !!!
2019-05-21 00:26
lol
2019-05-21 00:35
#263
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Spain iamF1XEN 
Disgusting
2019-05-21 00:40
talking about throwing in live chat? spain go retardo mode?
2019-05-21 00:44
hecking dumdums🤔🤔🤔🤔
2019-05-21 00:44
#270
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Brazil diixon 
youtube.com/watch?v=xZgLA6u9iRM Look that 14-14 round, throw so obv omg
2019-05-21 00:59
40:56 guy is aimbotting wtf
2019-05-21 07:46
seven matched banned only?? HEY, I want them to have same punishment as IthrowPower you bloody*judge
2019-05-21 01:13
Lmao they should learning from Vp.throw G2 Ast Mibr and more tier 1 high throw skill ! Not like this
2019-05-21 01:14
#274
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Argentina epov.boris 
TKB team queso
2019-05-21 01:22
#275
s1mple | 
Europe Sam2k 
Spanish cs omegalul
2019-05-21 01:24
DISGUSTING!!!!
2019-05-21 01:27
#278
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Brazil Collee 
Tip of the iceberg. Happens every time on loot.bet matches lmao
2019-05-21 01:35
ez death penaldo
2019-05-21 01:37
#286
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Argentina Fa7e07 
Deserved
2019-05-21 02:00
yikes
2019-05-21 02:12
l2p
2019-05-21 02:26
#291
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Argentina ivanpb 
They deserve to get a lifetime ban not by the throw itself but for being such a retards.
2019-05-21 02:52
TF is this shit LOOT.BET is more disgusting, and they won't even bother investigating it. What a shit job by valvd
2019-05-21 02:59
Spanish scene
2019-05-21 03:18
Don't throw kids!
2019-05-21 03:20
So now match fixing equals people throwing a match to get a better suited opponent in the playoffs? Do they not realize a shit ton of teams due this now in tournaments, including the majors? This is NOT match fixing. This is nothing more than people trolling for spots. MIBr, Navi, Faze, mousesports just to name a few have all done this. Jesus, what next. Banes for people playing with inverted?
2019-05-21 03:33
#316
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Europe lalt 
Majors don't have fucked up tournament structure so it's never beneficial to lose. But yes, teams are losing matches in all sports all the time to get favourable playoff match-ups. That's not called match-fixing, it's called retard tournament organizer.
2019-05-21 07:04
Maybe i have a different opinion, but when they just throw, to avoid a better enemy, not fix to win Money, then its kind of normal to do that, don’t get me wrong, its a terrible behaviour and very unfair. (Once in a world Cup Germany played against Austria in Group Stage and Last Games of the group weren‘t played the Same Time Since then. So both knew with a tie, they will be in the 1/8 Finals and they just did nothing the whole Game) Nearly same Situation, Bad behaviour but it will Happen sometimes, so maybe change the times of the Game so they are playing at the Same Time.
2019-05-21 03:46
Please send a record
2019-05-21 04:31
#301
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India kaptain 
iBuyPinatas
2019-05-21 05:19
Throwing and getting caught in 2019 and it wasn't even for money. How dumb do you have to be to type it in in-game chat? LOL
2019-05-21 05:35
#330
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Other WorldIsAFuck 
It was probably voice chat
2019-05-21 08:17
They disclosed the chatlog in the PDF report. It's in the article.
2019-05-21 08:42
#354
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Other WorldIsAFuck 
HAHAHA WTF
2019-05-21 09:58
VALVE PLZ
2019-05-21 06:17
How much?
2019-05-21 06:22
#306
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Russia Glihhh 
Rip
2019-05-21 06:23
#308
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Czech Republic pureG0D 
slovakia hahaha :D
2019-05-21 06:38
#309
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China teguP 
Que pasa
2019-05-21 06:45
I almost earth attack. I think a somebody go IBP
2019-05-21 06:55
#312
s1 | 
Armenia gr1nch 
"it's hard to not kill them, I missed 30 bullets shooting him in the back and he didn't even turn around, lul, looks like enemies were also throwing Ban blast tournaments also. Format is really forcing teams to choose who will be their enemy in final so they can throw last match
2019-05-21 07:05
#364
s1mple | 
India P1^t0N 
I Think u r good gamer with sense! Really u said right thing! I agreed:)
2019-05-21 11:08
They should get a perma ban.
2019-05-21 07:02
Who?
2019-05-21 07:04
#320
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Vietnam tat96 
Wow 200iq leave evidences just like that 👍👍
2019-05-21 07:31
Ah shit, here we go again.
2019-05-21 07:39
''we'll throw on the CT side'' lol
2019-05-21 07:41
#325
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Sweden Bakkmann 
2019-05-21 07:55
#327
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Poland morosek 
No ban incoming FUCKING LOL
2019-05-21 08:08
"it was hard to lose this round, I don't know why you won the last one," "it's hard to not kill them, I missed 30 bullets shooting him in the back and he didn't even turn around," or "we'll throw on the CT side." JAA AHGAHAHAHQAHAHAHAHAH
2019-05-21 08:11
#329
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Other WorldIsAFuck 
322
2019-05-21 08:16
junkie "shhhack" need money for fet.
2019-05-21 08:41
More B teams trowing for money 100%
2019-05-21 09:08
Rip alvaro845
2019-05-21 09:14
#355
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France StickyRice 
"LVP announced that the five players on the team are to be handed a seven-match ban" Ban lifetime now Valve please, let's get rid of these guys.
2019-05-21 10:13
The 7 match ban (playoffs included) is the official sanction stipulated by the league (for tactical throws, not bets included), so...
2019-05-21 10:50
#386
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France StickyRice 
Yeah i know, but i hope Valve will follow this league's path by giving them a lifetime (or at least a couple years) ban
2019-05-21 16:09
they have these opportunities to compete with high-level players and they throw... Im really mad at these shits
2019-05-21 10:36
rip shhhack bro :(
2019-05-21 10:56
apparently they have a negative iq to write about throwing right in the chat, they should be banned for being that stupid
2019-05-21 11:18
#367
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Russia Tr1p_ 
IBP ban was different; those cunts threw the game for personal benefit. These guys were just trolls.
2019-05-21 11:50
#373
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Israel BigDickBob 
Xd
2019-05-21 12:07
#376
liTTle | 
CIS Dowa) 
so what chinese throw for money and teams throw for easier matches like in blast
2019-05-21 12:47
Queso's lineup was: Slovakia Peter "shhhack" Belej Slovakia Michal "EMENK" Belej Spain Carlos "sc4rx" Sánchez Spain Pere "sausol" Solsona Saumell Spain Omar "arki" Chakkor nt ))
2019-05-21 14:17
#387
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United States vaz 
No refund, no glory
2019-05-21 16:23
#388
allu | 
Malta 0_WeWe_0 
The funniest thing is they had a hard time throwing lol
2019-05-21 16:25
Throwers are scum and should be thrown out of CS:GO.
2019-05-21 16:37
2019-05-21 17:55
#395
cAmyy | 
Other ToRu 
IBP without skins
2019-05-21 19:18
how the fuck do you get caught trough game logs? Wtf is this low iq team
2019-05-21 19:38
#400
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Poland bakusiell 
It actually worked! They don't need to play vs giants now
2019-05-22 06:29
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