EliGE: "We're 100% the best team in the world"

HLTV.org sat down with Jonathan "EliGE" Jablonowski after the American player was named MVP of the ESL Pro League Season 9 Finals in Montpellier, France, where Liquid beat G2 in the best-of-five final.

Liquid beat Astralis, mousesports, and G2 in the ESL Pro League Season 9 Finals playoffs to end up raising the trophy in Montpellier. In the final, EliGE had over 1.20 ratings on all three maps his team won, ending the match with a 1.23. Added to the rest of his tournament ratings, the 21-year-old ended the event in France with a tournament-leading 1.29.

EliGE says Liquid are definitely the best team in the world after the Pro League Finals

In the interview, EliGE talked about the crowd-pleasing fourth map, Inferno, where Liquid closed the series against G2, their place as #1 in the world, using the SG553, and what's to come in the near future, including ESL One Cologne and a shot at the Intel Grand Slam.

Tell me a bit about Inferno, a triple-overtime match, a very exciting map for the spectators. How was it on the inside?

The first half was super scrappy, we didn't have good money at all, we were going on a lot of half-buys, some people had guns and some people didn't, like nitr0 was saying he didn't have a real gun until the eighth or ninth round, which is really frustrating.

We were making little mistakes, miscommunication was happening here or there and we were losing rounds because of it, but when we were on the T side they started to make the same little mistakes here and there that we were making. We were playing it slow and getting a lot of map control with the right reads, and Stewie2K had a great performance. Not so much the shooting as him reading the game, he gives a lot of mid-round calls that are really good for us. He does that on every map and he does a really good job at it.

It was a bit of a gritty back-and-forth which ended in a 1HP clutch by Twistzz, but you seemed to have the upper hand in overtime for the most part. How confident were you that you'd be able to close it out?

I was feeling really confident, as soon as we made it to OT I was sure we were going to win. I feel like every time that I see a team come back into it and push it into OT they are always the one that goes in with the momentum and knows what was working for them to be able to get them into OT, and we kept the same gameplan that we had on the T side. On the CT side, we got caught off a little bit, but as soon as they turned it down a notch and started to go slower we were able to read it and play off of it better.

You finally got that important best-of-three win against Astralis, you won the final against G2, you beat mousesports, who are a team that are very exciting and playing very well. Where do you see yourselves? Do you consider yourselves now the #1 team?

We're 100% the best team in the world. I think people just needed to see us beat Astralis, and we did that. I think HellRaisers and mousesports, and G2 now, they all played super well against us, so I'd classify all of the teams we played against as really amazing teams. Our performance here, especially coming from the losers bracket and playing a best-of-three every single day against the caliber of teams that we did, there's no way to see it other than us being the #1 team.

Especially after Dallas, as well, where you beat the likes of FaZe, FURIA, and ENCE. All of the teams that are up there. But how about you individually, you got your first MVP just a couple of weeks ago, now you earn your second one here... How do you feel about your own play?

I feel amazing, like every single thing that I do is going to work. As long as I get into a situation where I'm able to shoot back at them, I'm going to be able to win the fight. I just have a lot of confidence in everything I'm doing and my teammates are helping me a lot, too. During other matches, they were even dropping SG553's for me, like they'd get an AK, see an SG553 on the ground and be like, "I got this for you, Jon," so I think it has been awesome how much my team has been supporting me.

Talking about the SG553, you're really pushing the boundaries with that gun. At first people found out about the AUG, and everyone started to use the AUG, but now you're starting to use the SG553. Well, you used it before, as well, but now it's becoming more and more apparent how well you're using it. Is it just time before more players figure it out, or is it just your thing?

Well, people just need time to get used to it, for sure, the reason it's showing so much for me now is because I got a head start. I started with both the AUG and the SG553 back when the update first happened. I think that the SG553 has a way higher skill-ceiling and a lower floor, so if you're not as good with it and don't practice the right way with it, then you're not going to be able to show how good the gun is.

Next is ESL One Cologne, the biggest tournament of the season outside of the Majors, how are you feeling about it now?

Pretty good, coming off of two tournament wins in a row, beating all of the good teams, I think the only top team we haven't played and beat yet is VItality. I don't think we've played them in a series. We're very confident and have a lot of things we know we need to fix, things that were happening in the games that we need to address, and as soon as we fix those flaws we're going to be even stronger. Oh, and if we can win some pistol rounds? Oh my God, these scorelines are going to be so different! [laughs]

One last thing, you're three for three in Intel Grand Slam tournament wins. Is that a little extra motivation?

Yeah, we've been thinking about the Intel Grand Slam ever since we won the first one in Sydney. We've been looking at how many there were before the player break would happen, and you know, we're right on track, we're almost there. We have a shot in Cologne, a shot in Chicago, and I think we're looking pretty good to take it.

United States Jonathan 'EliGE' Jablonowski
Jonathan 'EliGE' Jablonowski
Age:
22
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.08
Maps played:
1124
KPR:
0.75
DPR:
0.69
APR:
0.16
yes
2019-06-24 00:35
#5
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Spain JonTHANOS_E 
not even top3
2019-06-24 00:35
What's your top 3?
2019-06-24 00:36
#357
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Germany miinus 
Ninjas VP SK
2019-06-24 07:23
Omegamoe this isnt 2016 anymore
2019-06-24 07:52
#375
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Germany miinus 
baited retard 1 IQ my fucking account itself is from 2018
2019-06-24 07:55
Dude
2019-06-24 12:16
#660
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Germany miinus 
baited retard 1 IQ my account itself is from 2018
2019-06-25 09:00
This man a gangsta
2019-06-25 08:44
#659
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Germany miinus 
baited retard 1 IQ my account itself is from 2018
2019-06-25 08:59
This man a gangsta. Thought you where with the 1124 account duplication, but nice!
2019-06-25 09:37
#669
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Germany miinus 
baited 1 IQ retard my account itself is from 2018
2019-06-25 11:35
This man a gangsta. Thought you where with the 1124 account duplication, but nice!
2019-06-26 08:22
Well said!!!
2019-06-27 00:16
After a month... Wow
2019-06-27 09:04
ys
2019-06-28 11:19
#386
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Hungary faltopfake 
+1
2019-06-24 08:17
#468
Vodka | 
Europe Miichu 
Cloud9_1_major_Liquid_0_major
2019-06-24 10:46
And where is cloud9 right now?
2019-06-24 11:54
#527
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Lithuania Mr|Julius 
Chilling at home meanwhile their major throphy is sitting on the shelf
2019-06-24 14:17
Chilling at home with major meanwhile couldnt even go through minor, you mean?
2019-06-24 14:29
#617
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Lithuania Mr|Julius 
Why go thro a minor when u already have trophy?
2019-06-24 21:29
Well said!!!
2019-06-25 09:38
So why even pay players when u have a major? Just disband mens 😎
2019-06-25 11:44
#698
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Lithuania Mr|Julius 
Well they kinda did
2019-06-27 17:46
#699
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United States CSDash 
It’s collecting dust
2019-06-27 20:03
Gambit_1_major_Liquid_0_major
2019-06-24 16:21
#671
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Denmark rbnx 
Astralis_3_major_Liquid_0_major
2019-06-25 12:14
Just wait next major :<
2019-06-25 12:40
Next major Mousesports win EZ
2019-06-29 19:27
#535
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Croatia Makz_CRO 
NiP was absolute dogshit then, unlike SK and VP lol
2019-06-24 14:49
xaxaxaxa
2019-06-25 03:29
ez 4 my boy elige
2019-06-24 00:37
#83
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Austria shaakeh 
Absolutely
2019-06-24 00:52
#219
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China Aachen 
You did it wrong shaakeh
2019-06-24 02:21
#363
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Russia GramDEL 
+1 expected expected, but this was unexpected
2019-06-24 07:29
#691
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Denmark Kon10R 
Plz drop the "EZ4" anyone in top20 theze dayz ... TWO maps went to overtime in the final, right?!
2019-06-26 14:45
#103
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Germany KoalaZZZ 
so, who r 3 teams better than liquid?)
2019-06-24 01:04
#105
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Spain JonTHANOS_E 
Vitality ENCE Astralis
2019-06-24 01:05
Liquid > Astralis rn, coming from an Astralis fan
2019-06-24 01:23
hltv.org/matches/2334355/astralis-vs-liq.. Look at the head to head part and then we talk :)
2019-06-24 01:43
#189
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United States J_Nasty 
Lol you are delirious
2019-06-24 01:49
Big dumb Spaniard lol even Mexicans smarter
2019-06-24 01:52
Lmao LULquid army. Best in the world but they didn’t succeed a major
2019-06-24 08:44
Talk about being delusional, lol
2019-06-24 03:29
This fuxxing delusional gringo
2019-06-24 03:33
Holy shit I’ve never seen anything like that! I really doubt that Liquid will manage to succeed the way Astralis did. They are the lulquid, with a big choke history.
2019-06-24 05:43
#419
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Switzerland Alzameister 
You dont look at how many matches a team has won over the entirety of csgo, but of recent times. If you look at the head to head in 2019, its 4-4 + the bo3 they just played, which was a 2-1 for liquid. So technically its 6-5 for liquid
2019-06-24 09:19
Welp. Im Astralis fan as well. Honestly Astralis are playing really poorly lately , yet they almost send Liquid packing. 1 or 2 more events and Elige wont be so confident .
2019-06-24 01:50
#341
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Bulgaria zikinu 
The key here is 'almost'. Astralis got destroyed in their own map.
2019-06-24 06:37
admit it, the astralis era is over
2019-06-24 11:18
admit it , c9 have to disband.
2019-06-25 21:48
furia of course
2019-06-24 01:42
#288
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United States fraus 
Vitality? are you actually high?
2019-06-24 04:37
Links summit LOL
2019-06-24 16:30
#630
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Spain JonTHANOS_E 
its a lan match? whats your point?
2019-06-24 23:08
My point is that you linked summit. Link something that actually holds water. No one gives a shit about summit. They didn't when Liquid won last year and didn't when Vit won this year. Worthless tournament no one cared about
2019-06-25 01:13
#116
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Germany KoalaZZZ 
ROFL hltv.org/matches/2334355/astralis-vs-liq.. hltv.org/matches/2333297/liquid-vs-ence-.. not even close. (anyway 3 winning tournaments in a raw)
2019-06-24 01:09
furia
2019-06-24 01:43
#212
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New Zealand rowdog 
nope furia had 2 good tournaments, not a top 3 team, my guess is they won't win any big tournaments in the future
2019-06-24 02:08
#230
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Greece twachilles 
say it without crying
2019-06-24 02:25
Fan of Faze Have fun with washed up NEO
2019-06-24 05:39
Fan of NiP. Enough said
2019-06-24 07:24
But I am not delusional Unlike you
2019-06-24 09:31
Can't really say for sure you're not, but at least I know you're stupid.
2019-06-24 09:59
Nobody likes big heads
2019-06-24 00:39
#182
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United States barsad 
oh but when FaZe, mibr, Fnatic, and Astralis said this it's okay? your country doesn't even contribute to the pro scene
2019-06-24 01:41
#192
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United Kingdom zakariin 
I mean we have smooya and ALEX
2019-06-24 01:51
#277
TenZ | 
North America JC_123 
ALEX is an important part of Vita so +1 but smooya is afk
2019-06-24 03:47
LOL 7 years into the game and you can name 2 players
2019-06-24 04:54
#311
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Singapore Defqon_1 
There's also dephh
2019-06-24 05:46
#323
Kush | 
Netherlands protiny 
And thomas from NoChance is looking good as well.
2019-06-24 06:13
okay that's 4 and adding Surreal it makes 5. nice.
2019-06-24 08:42
#543
Kush | 
Netherlands protiny 
You do need to realise a single country in the EU is often way smaller than even a state in the US. So relatively speaking it's decent. For example Texas is 3 times as big as the UK, but there are no Texan CS:GO Pros that I know off. If we start comparing it like that then immediately it would be a more fair comparison wouldn't it.
2019-06-24 15:21
okay, I see your point. Have a nice day my dude.
2019-06-24 16:18
#637
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United States Gabriel955 
dude size doesnt matter population does the uk has 3x the amount of people as texas lmao
2019-06-24 23:23
#352
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United Kingdom serjaeger 
Literally all the best casters are from the UK, we gave your esport a voice.
2019-06-24 06:59
+1
2019-06-24 08:15
LOL. "those who can't do, teach" fits in perfectly here.
2019-06-24 12:29
"Best" Also, who cares
2019-06-24 19:53
The best caster is Danish, sry
2019-06-24 21:15
#655
JW | 
Germany ZilaZ 
+Blume
2019-06-25 07:32
#583
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Philippines genji27 
You only say this because you can't accept the fact that Liquid is #1 right now.
2019-06-24 18:40
#104
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Europe nathanward97 
Vitality > Liquid
2019-06-24 01:04
+1
2019-06-24 14:33
Definetly
2019-06-24 01:35
#222
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North America B0LBY 
how are they the #1 team in the world when they haven't won a major yet
2019-06-24 02:21
#381
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Belgium liquidfanboi 
Haha lol. Cuz they’re In this good form for a few months now. They didn’t have this form in the last major, next major u’ll see
2019-06-24 08:09
Cry
2019-06-24 05:01
#666
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Europe N3sHie1k 
cry isn't free
2019-06-25 10:12
#2
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Spain JonTHANOS_E 
> best team in the world > never won a major pick one NA bots
2019-06-24 00:36
#19
JD | 
Poland Banzanic 
xd
2019-06-24 00:36
> 100% best team in the world > struggling to beat g2 LOL
2019-06-24 00:37
#31
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Spain JonTHANOS_E 
they were also almost eliminated by Hellraisers xDDD
2019-06-24 00:38
#92
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Iran Gagar1n 
Lost to Spirit and North
2019-06-24 00:58
Almost lost a 13-1 comeback against mouz
2019-06-24 01:05
Lost to Vitality in group stage and finals
2019-06-24 01:10
2019-06-24 01:36
They earned the win, but they aren't 100% the best team in the world. Astralis was because they were unbeatable. At the major they only dropped 1 map, not even a single game.
2019-06-24 01:39
Perfection doesn’t equal best team in the world. Fighting to first place in a couple major tournaments shows they are consistent and top ranked for sure. Of course they lose some but doesn’t mean they aren’t #1 now. Astralis clearly had a #1 era. That doesn’t happen often. Just because it’s not repeated By liquid doesn’t mean they aren’t #1 right now.
2019-06-24 01:54
It's not perfection, it's the ability to just stomp every team there is. Liquid hasn't done that on a tournament yet. Astralis was destroying every team, every single game. SK was winning tournaments without losing maps. Fnatic won ESL Cologne with only dropping a map against NiP in the finals. NiP went 87-0 on LAN. If Liquid dominates ESL cologne, they can call themselves 100% the best team, but if you drop maps against every team you play, and struggle against HR, G2, North, you aren't 100% the best team in the world since you show that you have a lot of weaknesses.
2019-06-24 02:11
#239
ste | 
China wie2k 
cool. so who's better than liquid right now then if they aren't #1?
2019-06-24 02:44
Vitality can easily take down Liquid if they prepare well for it. Mousesports can take them down if they work on their T side on Nuke for example. We havent seen ENCE a lot but they are very strong. NaVi have trained a lot with Boombla so we dont know how they are. G2 looked very strong today. Cologne will proof who the real champion is. EPL and ECS were warmups, but Cologne has every team except North and they are all going for #1
2019-06-24 02:58
#253
ste | 
China wie2k 
fair enough. i still don't think any team can beat liquid in a bo3, their map pool is just too deep. we will see though
2019-06-24 03:01
This man just listed vitality, Ence, Navi, and Mouz as better than liquid lmao. Liquid beat Ence in a finals like last week Beat Mouz like yesterday Hasn't lost to NaVi since Naf joined Vitality hasn't won anything on a stage Liquid 3 strait tier 1 wins
2019-06-24 05:12
Also, Liquid just according to most of their team members as cliche as it sounds, "Works on themselves and focusing on their game" versus fully prepping towards an enemy team.
2019-06-24 05:42
Lmao French CS. Just Surrender again
2019-06-24 07:25
Mad burger ?
2019-06-24 08:43
#587
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United States 9ine_qBk 
He said on Stage! Summit 4 was not stage you buffoon!
2019-06-24 19:30
ITs sad that frenchies never learn English in school nowadays
2019-06-24 21:29
+1 And people forget how Astralis was struggling to win any tournament before, they where the nr 1 choke team. People need some time to realize that liquid is first in the world, even if they win cologne haters will say " but they never won a Major " , after they win this Major haters will not have anything left to say ...
2019-06-24 08:58
#546
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France LeDiplomate 
"This man", as you say, just sais that those teams could beat Liquid if they prepare well enough for it, which is more than probable. Why are 99% of Americans retarded living burgers that all think they are superior to others?
2019-06-24 15:28
>Calls him burger >Proceeds to act like you're the victim Hmm
2019-06-24 21:30
#676
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France LeDiplomate 
Low quality bait+fakeflagging= living burger
2019-06-25 15:42
Liquid is not going to win the next event i promise you that. How can you even say that no one can beat them in a bo3 when they cant even manage to win convincingly against new tier 3 team G2.
2019-06-24 08:51
#480
ste | 
China wie2k 
barely? they won the final 3-1. don't discredit g2, kenny and shox both stepped up. that's the reason they were able to stay in the game. not to mention liquid has won the last 3 big event they attended in a row lmao
2019-06-24 11:35
the only event you frenchies will win lol
2019-06-24 12:35
I am not a liquid fan, but if you win all of those matches, even after some struggle, then it is not lucky coincidence. The scene is very competitive right now, with many good teams, but TL are No.1 for sure.
2019-06-24 07:22
No luck 1 hp 15-15. Sure
2019-06-24 08:51
#590
NBK- | 
South Africa nimmaJ 
Maybe G2 should have killed him with 1 hp
2019-06-24 19:45
Are every fin on hltv this extremely stupid
2019-06-25 17:39
Not sure. I’m not fin my muslim friend.
2019-06-25 19:30
perfect record means dominance
2019-06-24 18:38
Struggling? Oh wait mad Astralis fan boy can't handle his team being bad now
2019-06-24 00:38
#62
NiKo | 
Belgium ZxTox 
Talk to me when liquid is actually winning against faze in the grand finals na bot
2019-06-24 00:45
#72
kennyS | 
United States @rex 
Lol! As if faze can make grandfinals! LOL
2019-06-24 00:48
#80
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Lithuania dozzah 
rekt
2019-06-24 00:51
That hurt.. Wp man, wp
2019-06-24 01:00
#139
kennyS | 
United States @rex 
<3
2019-06-24 01:20
#221
ropz | 
South Africa Zoneyyy 
Faze have neo, fucking NEO. Who the fuck are faze
2019-06-24 02:21
#237
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North America B0LBY 
XD
2019-06-24 02:38
g2- destroyed faze liquid- destroyed g2 liquid>>>faze
2019-06-24 00:49
#95
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Iran Gagar1n 
That’s horse shit; Faze and G2 have a very similar map pool.
2019-06-24 00:59
Talk to me when Faze makes a grand final jajajajajajja
2019-06-24 01:07
#128
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Germany KoalaZZZ 
yes. they never win against faze in the grand finals because of faze don`t deserves to it)
2019-06-24 01:14
talk to me when faze wins a major
2019-06-24 01:24
talk to me when Liquid win a major.
2019-06-24 01:52
Talk to me when astralis stops missing events to go to blast events
2019-06-24 01:54
Talk to me when liquid stops attending tier5 events to boost their egos and then lose to north/spirit.
2019-06-24 01:55
#314
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China Aachen 
OMEGALUL
2019-06-24 05:49
C9 at Boston. Take that Euro boi
2019-06-24 06:05
#591
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United States 9ine_qBk 
Get destroyed. you Ignorant pig #72
2019-06-24 19:46
Idgaf about any cs team
2019-06-24 10:26
3-1 beating G2 and beating Astralis 2-1 lmao really struggling! If that series was a best of 3 it would have been a 2-0 as well. Big struggle tho
2019-06-24 00:42
>2 maps with overtimes >clean sweep Typical NA brain lmao
2019-06-24 01:53
Clean sweep or not, Astralis lost anyway. Cry is free
2019-06-24 05:37
#70
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Estonia E$t0 
2019-06-24 00:47
Spirit best in the world now that means :p Nope it's a best of 1 it happens all the time with lower teams. Just like Ence lost to movistar riders last month. Doesn't mean they are 3rd now lol
2019-06-24 01:05
How far did Spirit go again? And Liquid?
2019-06-24 01:11
#162
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United States zoombaxd 
come back when astralis wins another s tier thanks
2019-06-24 01:31
hasnt been a major since they became #1 team in the world, try again fan of richest team in the world with worst performance...
2019-06-24 00:39
spanish cs omegalul
2019-06-24 00:41
Stfu Blastralis fan
2019-06-24 01:45
Stfu chokeclan fan
2019-06-24 02:48
Lmao I don’t like Faze Clan Hamburger City
2019-06-24 08:17
#244
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Canada mako_mako 
cry is free surrender fan
2019-06-24 02:49
WTF flair ofc Canada team not even top 200
2019-06-24 08:18
#58
jks | 
Finland v3gez 
>Most expensive cs roster in history >never won a major Guess who
2019-06-24 00:43
#63
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Sweden Slappy :) 
FaZe down?
2019-06-24 00:46
+1
2019-06-24 00:51
+1
2019-06-24 02:48
#499
jks | 
Finland v3gez 
Yes
2019-06-24 12:33
#88
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United States YaLoveToSeeIt 
Mad cuz FaZe fan. Expected.
2019-06-24 00:54
I pick best team in the world. Btw what major event are you talking about?
2019-06-24 01:07
#140
s1mple | 
Ukraine d3adLY 
FAZE XAXAX
2019-06-24 01:22
#151
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Brazil goatzera 
Can't accept that NA>EU LUL CRY IS FREE
2019-06-24 01:24
NA > EU > SA cRi iZ fReeeeeeee
2019-06-24 01:54
#240
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Brazil goatzera 
Yes, NA > EU > SA > AU
2019-06-24 02:46
#593
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United States 9ine_qBk 
+1 That's a rekt :D
2019-06-24 19:48
Au cs Omegalul
2019-06-25 06:48
#201
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Greece twachilles 
say it without crying
2019-06-24 01:55
fazE>ELIEGEquid
2019-06-24 02:32
Who is Eliege?
2019-06-24 05:46
#264
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United States SilveryoHD 
#FanLogic
2019-06-24 03:34
#299
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Faroe Islands Josuke 
hoes mad
2019-06-24 05:09
#304
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Peru AgentLF 
Faze lost a major against an NA team lmao
2019-06-24 05:17
U MAD
2019-06-24 05:58
#421
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United States twistzzgod 
lol say this navi when they top 1 in 2016 with out major and tsm in 2015
2019-06-24 09:19
#434
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Macau iaokachon 
choke clan lost to cloud9 LUL 0major haha
2019-06-24 09:46
#3
joy | 
New Zealand SkirmishX 
Yes
2019-06-24 00:35
nt
2019-06-24 00:35
y
2019-06-24 00:35
#190
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Finland Smoonah 
bc
2019-06-24 01:49
#342
bodyy | 
Czech Republic cortan 
Before Crist
2019-06-24 06:39
#7
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Argentina Chief02 
ok
2019-06-24 00:36
#8
ReDWateR | 
Turkey leame 
what if i say no?
2019-06-24 00:36
#26
JD | 
Poland Banzanic 
na fanboyz ll be toxic, but no one cares
2019-06-24 00:37
Dude you're literally from Turkey. Shut the fuck up.
2019-06-24 00:43
#57
ReDWateR | 
Turkey leame 
i see someone is mad
2019-06-24 00:43
woxic and xantares>>>>>>any br player
2019-06-24 02:33
I'm not actually from Brazil retard
2019-06-24 15:18
haha fvl7-1
2019-06-24 21:52
MiBR washed up monkeys. There you go. No Brazilian would actually say that because the word "monkey" offends the shit out of them.
2019-06-25 03:58
yes because leame said no.
2019-06-24 06:50
#9
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United States SaberVizion 
correct
2019-06-24 00:36
#10
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North America daesoulae 
+100
2019-06-24 00:36
#11
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United States NoDat|jhn 
Lol
2019-06-24 00:36
#12
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Russia hent0x 
nt
2019-06-24 00:36
Ok sherlock holmes.
2019-06-24 00:36
#15
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Sweden Akoulad 
SUREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
2019-06-24 00:36
#16
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United States Eduzera 
8/8
2019-06-24 00:36
#17
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Canada HansROZE 
1000% best team in the world
2019-06-24 00:36
#668
woxic | 
Turkey cemc_ 
:d
2019-06-25 10:20
For now
2019-06-24 00:36
dont think so
2019-06-24 00:36
#86
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United States No0bZ57 
MiBR is a tier 3 team
2019-06-24 00:53
T3 teams dont go 0-12 vs liquid on lan
2019-06-24 16:36
#227
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Europe Nomarosa 
thanks for your opinion
2019-06-24 02:23
Yes
2019-06-24 00:36
yes
2019-06-24 00:37
True, but one of the weakest #1 we've seen.
2019-06-24 00:37
+1
2019-06-24 10:10
+1
2019-06-24 10:17
+1 atleast it's competitive
2019-06-24 12:07
#28
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United States Project|7 
So EZ for NA. NA>EU
2019-06-24 00:37
#29
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Romania kr1tex 
Yet you almost lost to the 14 place in the world.
2019-06-24 00:37
3-1 and would be a 2-0 If BO3 hmmmm almost lost???
2019-06-24 00:49
#478
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Moldova AJollyDoge 
Did you like... watch the game ? G2 was 1 hp away from winning inferno. Extremely close to winning Dust2 too. Or are you one of those fags that look at the number of maps won and turn your brain off right after that.
2019-06-24 11:19
Oh I studied every ounce of it. I mean I can make excuses all day and point out all the lucky clutches g2 had to do just to make it close to stay right behind liquid to begin with but I won't cause that's a pussy move to say what if a bunch of times just to make myself feel better. Yet here you are doing that ;)
2019-06-24 13:18
#635
gfi | 
United States DiabIo 
wow G2 fans not taking lose well i see
2019-06-24 23:20
G2 is a good team why the fuck you bring the ranking into this? They just didnt play a lot of tournaments so they couldnt improve their ranking. Btw it says 15th team in the world at this moment :D Have a good day g2 fan
2019-06-24 01:13
#130
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Romania kr1tex 
It was 15 when I wrote this, I just didn't remember the exact placement, it doesn't change the point.
2019-06-24 01:16
But they are still the best team in the world at the time
2019-06-24 01:35
#186
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Romania kr1tex 
Number one by the ranking - yes, the best - I don't think so.
2019-06-24 01:43
And you are still about the ranking...
2019-06-24 02:47
LIQUIDNEVERBEATENCE not my top 1 Beats ence in finals Astralis > liquid not my top 1 2-1 in quarters Liquid 0 t1 wins Sydney dallas epl Now what? Vitality cuz summit??? What a joke
2019-06-24 16:37
I agree
2019-06-24 00:38
+10000
2019-06-24 01:54
#430
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United Kingdom _xC4ctus 
LMAOO you wrecked that baguette
2019-06-24 09:41
#490
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Germany So_Dumm 
LMAO ESEA MATCHES HAHAHAH
2019-06-24 11:56
#502
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France ripmypickems 
mdl games where they were already qualified nt burger brain)))))
2019-06-24 12:38
And he linked summit, which is the most chill tournament ever where probably no t1 team tryhards...
2019-06-25 17:43
ur right vitality is
2019-06-24 00:46
#153
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Canada iluvpizza 
yea
2019-06-24 01:25
#77
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France J0riS 
+1 ez 4 vitality and their coach xtqzzz aka Le divin Chauve
2019-06-24 00:50
#93
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Canada iluvpizza 
yes men, took a pic with budget voldemort and all the vitality team Pog
2019-06-24 00:58
#136
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Germany KoalaZZZ 
CS.SUMMIT OMEGALUL u rly think that somebody was carring about this tournament in spite of vitality?
2019-06-24 01:19
#146
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France J0riS 
150k $ tournament, a trophy and an hltv MVP for someone. Every team care about tournaments like these
2019-06-24 01:23
#152
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Canada iluvpizza 
Every team care about tournaments* Not caring = wanting to lose lmao
2019-06-24 01:24
#150
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Canada iluvpizza 
AHAHAHAH please just think one moment does it mean that everyone wanted to lose ? just stfu, ofc it's not like at ECS, but they still did 2-0 and then 1-0 1-0 if Liquid won summit no one would say anything cuz it's Liquid, but it wasn't a "chill event that no one cares about cuz the team who wins is being trashtalked cuz they won against good teams"
2019-06-24 01:24
Even vitality themselves said that they were the only team taking it seriously, good for them but do not overhype it.
2019-06-24 07:28
#547
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Canada iluvpizza 
OK but it doesn't mean the other teams wanted to lose
2019-06-24 15:30
#597
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United States 9ine_qBk 
Do you understand the difference between actually trying hard and just playing for fun without taking it too seriously? Vitality was specially preparing for summit since they weren't going to too many events back then so it was important for them to prepare. Whereas other teams like liquid and ence were still attending blast and other events so for them these were like relaxing events.
2019-06-24 19:56
#610
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Canada iluvpizza 
U're not playing for fun even if u're 1st, Vitality won a lot of points, same for FURIA
2019-06-24 21:15
#613
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United States 9ine_qBk 
Do you really think teams like ENCE and Liquid would actually prepare and put their everything into it after back to back exhausting tournaments just before the summit took place? The answer is NO! Of course Vitality played well better than anybody else but you can't ignore the fact that Summit is a tournament where certain top teams do not give their 100%. and Vitality said it themselves. For Vitality, it was about proving a point because they do not get to attend many events, especially before their summit result. whereas other top teams had nothing to prove there. They could sit back and not take too much pressure from a loss there.
2019-06-24 21:24
#614
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Canada iluvpizza 
i don't ignore it I just say that even if they "don't care" they still could have win points or make other teams not winning points
2019-06-24 21:25
#615
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United States 9ine_qBk 
EXACTLY! They didn't care about the fact that some other team takes the point. Do you actually think the top teams worry about how many points they gained or lost by winning or losing to any given opponent? All they care about is winning a tournament and that wasn't even the care here bc it's summit.
2019-06-24 21:28
#640
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Canada iluvpizza 
sure they do
2019-06-24 23:32
Didnt alex say it wasn't a legitimate win, because nobody else was taking the tournament seriously?
2019-06-24 03:15
#548
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Canada iluvpizza 
#547
2019-06-24 15:30
Thats not an argument lul, it meant that nobody else was really prepared for it. Therefore it doesn't count for as much. I mean its cool that they won, and maybe Vitality will be #1 in a few months, but cs_summit wasn't enough to prove that liquid isn't #1.
2019-06-24 18:56
#585
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Canada iluvpizza 
didn't say it proves liquid aren't 1st, just said Vitality were better
2019-06-24 19:04
They were better that day. yes. I hope to see an era of very competitive cs over the next few months!
2019-06-24 20:04
#265
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United States SilveryoHD 
SUMMIT HYPERLUL
2019-06-24 03:35
#549
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Canada iluvpizza 
#547
2019-06-24 15:30
#634
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United States SilveryoHD 
when liquid got shit on for winning summit and everyone called them trash now its ur turn
2019-06-24 23:17
Proof that CS Summit is shit and that Liquid doesnt considerer it
2019-06-24 12:21
#550
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Canada iluvpizza 
#547
2019-06-24 15:31
atm hes definetly right, but when they eventually drop down again, this statement will hurt him
2019-06-24 00:38
#36
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Lithuania denji1337 
Wow wow wow, calm down cowboy. It’s only 1 trophy
2019-06-24 00:38
#226
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Europe Nomarosa 
You wish
2019-06-24 02:23
#279
TenZ | 
North America JC_123 
forgot Dallas already?
2019-06-24 03:51
#562
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United States Prattatat 
Lol forgot Dallas and Sydney
2019-06-24 16:24
#38
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Europe Neaxyl 
xD
2019-06-24 00:38
#40
TACO | 
Portugal MSANTOS 
Its true, I dont min him
2019-06-24 00:39
Its SG 553 not SG 552
2019-06-24 00:39
Enjoy while it lasts mate!
2019-06-24 00:40
How? They need to beat astralis at a blast event, then at a starladder event. And it needs to be on de_dust and cs_office.
2019-06-24 00:40
#267
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United States SilveryoHD 
ofc my b
2019-06-24 03:36
Mr.ELIGE can you wait untill ESL COLOGNE gonna finish? NaVi , ENCE , remember a little bit. Boombl4 said something :D ?? :D :D :P
2019-06-24 00:41
#345
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Japan Johnny_Br@Vo 
Boombl4 will eat them all
2019-06-24 06:44
literally. not figuratively.
2019-06-24 12:45
#47
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Hungary raffai 
cocky
2019-06-24 00:41
#50
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Poland _EXILON_ 
yes
2019-06-24 00:42
>0 majors
2019-06-24 00:42
#52
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United States Kermac 
Humble
2019-06-24 00:42
#53
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Croatia AzorAhai 
They won’t win grand slam trust me they will choke rest of the year. Enjoy it while u can Stewie2k fanboys
2019-06-24 00:43
I like faze but having really expensive roster and not achieving anything is just funny to me Have a good day
2019-06-24 01:18
cuz they have got neo recently
2019-06-24 04:53
But neo shouldnt be the one on the top of the leaderboard they have people like niko rain and guardian for this and at the moment they dont show it at all
2019-06-24 18:04
I hope, it will be better in Cologne
2019-06-24 19:40
#431
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United Kingdom _xC4ctus 
stew > faze. remember boston? LUL. cry is free bro
2019-06-24 09:41
#621
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Croatia AzorAhai 
Enjoy while you can but i am so sorry to dissapoint you mate.. no majors for Liquid, no Grand Slam, only choking in finals. Better change your flair to Vitality, cuz you know.. Alex.
2019-06-24 22:14
#538
Xyp9x | 
Denmark Khronov 
Faze fangay talk about choke lol Never forget eleague major final lol
2019-06-24 15:05
Also iem oakland 2017 Also iem katowice 2018 Also epl s6 Also ecs s3 Also iem sydney 2017 Also iem katowice 2017
2019-06-24 16:39
#56
REZ | 
Portugal Thebreaker 
Its SG 553 NOT SG 552
2019-06-24 00:43
#59
Twistzz | 
Europe Ywzzz 
Haters gonna hate it,they will feel salty what had achieved by team liquid wooops.
2019-06-24 00:46
100% sure, LOL, eliminated by MiBR of ECS Season 6, lost against ENCE in the Major, lost against FaZe in Blast pro Series (xd). Liquid is a matchmaking team, next month a new top 1 will appear, i think ence, furia, mibr (if they change lineups again) maybe Na'Vi without Edward, Zyw0o & CO, or even Blastralis can be up there.
2019-06-24 00:43
#90
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United States the_dukes 
Brazilian speaking shit again 😂
2019-06-24 00:56
He's just mad that Liquid kicked taco and then immediately started winning things
2019-06-24 02:55
#99
shroud | 
United States ecvo 
LOL, u dumb dumbie. U named those defeats when still Blastralis was number 1. U better hope that FURIA or MIBR will be TOP 3 Sometime soon, while Liquid will be The Best Team In The World.
2019-06-24 01:02
idk why Liquid fans are here lmao, NA > SA > EU right now, that's what i said, just wait for Furia get some experience and the MiBR guys fix the internal problems, its gonna be like 2017.
2019-06-24 02:17
#218
shroud | 
United States ecvo 
Everything can happen in CS, im not judging you. Watch. Next year TOP 5 - 1.Mouz 2.G2 3.CR4ZY 4.Liquid 5.ENCE
2019-06-24 02:19
They haven't been able to fix them for over a year now...
2019-06-24 09:08
#124
shroud | 
United States ecvo 
And now watch, from that moment when Liquid became #1, They defeated ENCE At DH, MIBR is their pinata, and FaZe had 1 good tournament, when they won by a surprise, and Astralis wasn't even in play-offs, so... You don't watch CS anymore I guess
2019-06-24 01:12
Mibr hahaha Navi didnt play at lan for 2 months And +1 to evco. Maybe you should start watching cs because you are far behind
2019-06-24 01:22
lul, i said that vitality, furia, mibr (if change lineups), Na'Vi (without edward), and even blastralis could become de best team in the world.
2019-06-24 02:10
#61
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Turkey xxxjet3 
Lmao they almost lose to HR. -0 major -best team in the world Pick one
2019-06-24 00:44
how much?
2019-06-24 01:19
#181
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United States DervGuy 
They are the best team right now what you on about. Majors matter if we wanna talk about best teams overall. Obviously they're not there yet man. With that logic, Astralis is still the best team in the world cause of their three majors???
2019-06-24 01:42
#246
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Canada mako_mako 
0/8
2019-06-24 02:51
U can not have won a major and be the best team in the world. Nobody else is better or has had a better run over the last 3 months. Majors are not prerequisites for #1 placings. FaZe was Number one for a very long time, but they never managed a major
2019-06-24 03:17
#268
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United States SilveryoHD 
so until the major after gambit won they were the best team in the world for that long so until the major after c9 was the best team in the world for that long
2019-06-24 03:37
Yeah bro gambit was top 2 of 2017 as a whole No sk era, only 3 trophies in 2016 and not even top 3 in 2017 Astralis was top 1 2017 gambit top 2
2019-06-24 16:41
#64
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Sweden godname 
100% ???? almost choking against G2 LULW
2019-06-24 00:46
#106
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Bosnia and Herzegovina h2o! 
Wtf? You are a G2 fan
2019-06-24 01:05
#123
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Sweden godname 
and?
2019-06-24 01:12
#168
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Bosnia and Herzegovina h2o! 
"almost choking against G2 LULW"
2019-06-24 01:35
3-1 almost losing?
2019-06-24 01:19
#141
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Sweden godname 
did u watch the game even?
2019-06-24 01:22
yea great games 3-1, almost losing would have to be at least 3-2 and all the ot's were pretty much liquid leading
2019-06-24 01:24
#154
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Sweden godname 
the stewie awp flick and twistzz round, won the d2 map and inferno.. if g2 won that 2 rounds they won the tourny, brother
2019-06-24 01:25
but they didnt you could say that same scenario for almost every single cs match, g2 didnt win them you cant use the what if scenario to say some one dosent deserve a win. G2 played great shox showing some great form as well as kenny was a great final.
2019-06-24 01:27
#158
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Sweden godname 
sure liquid was the better team, just saying it wasnt that easy for liquid, and it was close
2019-06-24 01:29
yea deff was great to watch
2019-06-24 01:29
#432
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United Kingdom _xC4ctus 
THATS what makes cs so fun dood! i love kennys and i love liquid! especially ot inferno made my heart fkin race so fast brother. astralis was boring but with liquid? even tho they nearly choked, it was entertaining. from twistzzz 1vx clutches to shox's one taps. )))
2019-06-24 09:44
A better indication of how close it was overall is the game stats. Liquid's stats as a team blow away G2's in this series (look at individual ratings and team rating). That fact combined with the fact that there were a couple close games means G2 had more randomly fortuitous situations than Liquid, not the other way around.
2019-06-24 08:35
Yeah got destroyed on overpass and won 3:1 You say that they almost lost wtf?
2019-06-24 01:25
#178
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United States zoombaxd 
so every #1 team has to 16:0 every team they play? even astralis at their peak struggled against some teams..
2019-06-24 01:39
shit even some top teams have been blown out by t3 teams b4 it happens
2019-06-24 01:40
#433
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United Kingdom _xC4ctus 
its because lower tier teams have nuffin to lose. with#1 teams, they havee to try and keep their spot whilst others try to make them crumble.
2019-06-24 09:45
Good one buddy. Best team doesn't go that close against a mofuckin ass G2.
2019-06-24 00:46
#247
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Canada mako_mako 
3-1 wdym???
2019-06-24 02:52
#426
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Sweden shendyx 
sweaty and with great luck :)
2019-06-24 09:30
are we all forgetting that G2 made it to the final too? beating all the shit teams you guys keep supporting, lol
2019-06-24 12:53
Are you saying G2 is a shitty team? They made it to the finals beating all the other teams. And lost to Liquid 3-1 in a BO5. If it was a BO3 like most tournament finals, the score would have been 2-0. So overall, it wasn't "close". The only thing that's closed is your brain.
2019-06-24 23:09
#67
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Sweden samjerxD 
When next major starts imagine this. "JW and dev1ce , Coldzera, Hey liquid! all showing theyr trophies, world best team huh.. ;)
2019-06-24 00:46
Are you actually autistic?
2019-06-24 00:48
#81
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Sweden samjerxD 
ur nickname says it all bye!
2019-06-24 00:51
Cleared.
2019-06-24 00:58
no comment...
2019-06-24 00:46
#75
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Germany Ezekiel23!20 
no, i am.
2019-06-24 00:49
What's left is to prove it.
2019-06-24 00:50
They haven't already lol?
2019-06-24 03:35
#79
gfi | 
United States DiabIo 
"we might be the best team right now" EU user: CAN YOU BELIEVE THE ARROGANCE ON THIS GUY?
2019-06-24 00:51
#82
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Denmark DanishDelight 
blame the writer with that bait headline in this forum
2019-06-24 00:52
Wtf are you talking about, the headline is a direct quote from Elige and it's not even out of context. I don't know where Diablo got the sentence "we might be the best team right now" - 100% is not "might"
2019-06-24 09:12
#84
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Norway Crush<3 
Way to jinx the major lmao
2019-06-24 00:53
Yes
2019-06-24 00:55
#91
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Turkey xxxjet3 
-Astralis played their first tournament after a long time -Mousesports yet new team -They didnt played against Ence Vitality Furia teams who are most form teams right now. -Vertigo was the first time for a lot of team in this tournament. And Chokequid thinks they re the best lul impatient to see BM-2k and mr. Gum getting fucked in Cologne and Berlin
2019-06-24 00:57
1) Astralis failed at ECS few weeks ago 2) who cares, ENCE one of the worst online team and will never qualify for ESL Pro League, FURIA 0 chances against Liquid, only Vitality can compete against Loquidn from this list 3) Vertigo is broken map and will be reworked 100 more times
2019-06-24 01:08
Twistzz a monster dude and stewie surely an X factor they needed.. Haters gonna hate
2019-06-24 01:10
#235
shroud | 
United States ecvo 
Astralis problem is themselves. They don't attend tournaments on purpose, with retarded excuses, so your 1. fact is down. Mouz is a new team, but did you see the damage that mouz did to Liquid and other teams on tournaments. They had a chance to win against Liquid 2. fact down ENCE even didn't attend the tournament, and 2 weeks earlier Liquid beat them 2-1 DH Dallas, at that time Liquid already was #1. About Vitality, I'm not sure, because they haven't played each other very often only 1 game, 2-0 Vitality. Furia, they have not played against Liquid, and then how you can know if FURIA is a big threat for Liquid, maybe Liquid will 2-0 them all the time they meet each other, so you can discount FURIA for sure. It is not the fault of Liquid, that other teams don't play Vertigo, look at other maps, like Inferno - Astralis is 1 of the strongest teams on Inferno, but FaZe can't play it, because they don't practice it, like Astralis or Liquid does, the same thing with Vertigo, Get your facts straight, dumb dumb.
2019-06-24 02:37
#300
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Faroe Islands Josuke 
hoes mad
2019-06-24 05:09
#435
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United Kingdom _xC4ctus 
BIG LMAO! fking botXANTARES cant do shit. >paid 5 digits and cant do jack.
2019-06-24 09:46
Yo congrats to TL for the win but, maaan, already being cocky :) no major, struggled a bit against #14, lol
2019-06-24 00:59
True +1
2019-06-24 01:00
#437
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United Kingdom _xC4ctus 
THATS what makes cs so fun dood! i love kennys and i love liquid! especially ot inferno made my heart fkin race so fast brother. astralis was boring but with liquid? even tho they nearly choked, it was entertaining. from twistzzz 1vx clutches to shox's one taps. )))
2019-06-24 09:47
Talking about ElIGE being cocky, not Liquid playing bad / boring playstyle. Didn't see such a fast-paced game for a long time so it was a great match !
2019-06-24 09:54
#443
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United Kingdom _xC4ctus 
+1 french cs is coming back men:)
2019-06-24 09:55
did u forget about ence they played fast paced for a while now caught tons of teams off guard
2019-06-24 22:56
Thinking about a break already lol
2019-06-24 01:02
ye they are numba one now, sad but cant support this team because of snake2k, but i like the rest 4
2019-06-24 01:04
#111
ZywOo | 
Colombia 7RU7H 
100% luckiest team in the world*
2019-06-24 01:07
how much?
2019-06-24 01:31
#165
ZywOo | 
Colombia 7RU7H 
0 majors n1 team LUL see you after they choke in the next major AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN ;)
2019-06-24 01:32
cause only majors matter its just another event you kids seem to think that only majors matter like there playing a different game or some thing
2019-06-24 01:33
#170
ZywOo | 
Colombia 7RU7H 
LUL yep only majors matter ! the 1st thing you hear about legendary teams/players is "1/2/3 times major winner" the rest is less revelant !
2019-06-24 01:35
only because fans make it that way a major is no diff then a t1 tourney
2019-06-24 01:36
#225
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Europe Nomarosa 
look at this kiddo
2019-06-24 02:23
#172
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Germany PeKay 
Sure it is much higher priority
2019-06-24 01:36
same game same shit just another tourney its pretty much just bragging rights but well c if they can win one who knows
2019-06-24 01:38
#301
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Faroe Islands Josuke 
hoes mad
2019-06-24 05:09
#115
Dosia | 
Russia cann0n 
nice arroganto americano !
2019-06-24 01:09
#224
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Europe Nomarosa 
not arrogant, just saying facts, you just don't wanna admit it LUL
2019-06-24 02:22
#336
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India L1nu5 
+1, probably liquid might dominate 2019 but not better than Astralis did in 2018
2019-06-24 06:30
If u can be THE BEST by winning random event, then MAJOR mean something? xD. Liquid have a top form for this moment but for become THE BEST they need win a Major.
2019-06-24 01:10
So you saying that Vp, mibr itp are the best teams because they won a major and look where they are now.
2019-06-24 01:31
I wish yhere was a question bout adren’s input, how much he is involved etc
2019-06-24 01:14
I didnt like the Adren pickup but it seems things have gotten better and better along with the versatile Stewie pickup.
2019-06-24 01:16
Wont be another "best team in the world" until after either Cologne or the major. Kiddy events prior to these...thats why you see such inconsistency from Astralis and why teams like Vitality and NaVi isnt there. Cologne will straighten everything out
2019-06-24 01:15
Hunden top 1 LIQUID TOP 2
2019-06-24 01:14
ELIGE: "WE'RE 100% THE BEST TEAM IN THE WORLD" i remember TaZ said almost the same after they won an event in 2017 and that was the last decent event for VP. RIP Liquid
2019-06-24 01:18
coldzera also said that after winning EPL S6 their last big event LMAO
2019-06-24 02:00
#248
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Canada mako_mako 
yet team liquid has won 3 events in a row?
2019-06-24 02:53
liquid could easily go out in groups in cologne
2019-06-24 02:54
#335
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India L1nu5 
I think we all know where this is heading
2019-06-24 06:29
#269
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United States SilveryoHD 
shit
2019-06-24 03:39
"I don't think we've played Vitality in a series yet" You got stomped by them a in final mate ...
2019-06-24 01:19
Damn elige why would say that, karma is a bitch
2019-06-24 01:19
#142
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Poland Hell2k 
where are your majors gays lmao
2019-06-24 01:22
Guys*
2019-06-24 01:33
I’m sure he made that statement to bait these salty haters XD good job & keep winning boys
2019-06-24 01:24
#161
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France Ghoul98 
+1
2019-06-24 01:30
#160
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France Ghoul98 
G2 fan madzzzz
2019-06-24 01:29
#175
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Europe Cirro 
no :)
2019-06-24 01:37
#176
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United States DervGuy 
I'm saying this not even being biased, but he's right. He's not seeing theyre the best team of all time, like some idiots seem to read it as, he's seeing their the best te in the world as of right now. Now it's a matter of keeping it that way. Everyone's so biased against NA for some reason that when they have a top 1 team, no one wants to believe it.
2019-06-24 01:37
#330
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United States fatburger 
+1
2019-06-24 06:26
#188
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Brazil hugoooo 
How to not dislike this cocky squad? In 2017 we had FaZe players tweeting that SK was the best team of the world (their biggest rivals at the time) that was something, now in 2019 we have Liquid players themselves declaring they are the best team, that's ugly and cocky, I hope they lose so hard, today Elige saved them once again, this will not last forever. Astralis achieved way more being 100% less cocky than these ridiculous dudes. Zero majors and acting like the gods of the game lmao
2019-06-24 01:48
Cry more
2019-06-24 05:50
waaaaaaaaambulance
2019-06-24 13:00
best team without major? lol rly?
2019-06-24 01:57
You don't need to win a major to be considered the #1 at any given time. FaZe never won a major, but they were certainly #1 for a decent period of time...
2019-06-24 03:44
#332
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United States fatburger 
Retard logic
2019-06-24 06:27
#204
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Argentina Renardo 
o m e g a l u l
2019-06-24 01:57
before tournament: It will be decided after Cologne after tournament: were best 100% mens
2019-06-24 01:59
#439
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United Kingdom _xC4ctus 
who sed that menns ?
2019-06-24 09:47
#207
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Russia LeGoBoys 
Big words for a small boy. Hope you downfall in cologne
2019-06-24 02:00
#223
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Europe Nomarosa 
Russians in a nutshell
2019-06-24 02:21
+1 lmao
2019-06-24 09:56
hope this wont result into a karma coldzera hltv.org/news/22253/coldzera-i-think-now.. after that they didnt won not even a single t1 tournament TaZ in 2017 said something similar when they were #1 at the beginning
2019-06-24 02:01
#440
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United Kingdom _xC4ctus 
oh sht. did astralis say sumting like dat?
2019-06-24 09:48
#209
ile | 
Finland Vkims 
Oh no, I think this gonna back fire sooner than he would want XD
2019-06-24 02:03
Inject the haters' tears into my veinssssss
2019-06-24 02:07
#215
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Reunion guentobu 
Liquid is too hot.
2019-06-24 02:15
S1mple still think Astralis numba wan just cuz they haven't lost in a major?" or does he realize you can come down without having lose at a major yet twitter.com/s1mpleO/status/1137366095462..
2019-06-24 02:18
That was tweeted before this event took place, lol
2019-06-24 09:18
Doesn't change the fact that he still thinks that way smh
2019-06-25 03:24
#220
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Europe Nomarosa 
Only the major is left for elige and the boys. <3 Go get em Btw lots of kiddos are not giving G2 enough credits, they're stuck to the past (these prev years) where they had the downfall but look at them now. Their dick got definitely bigger especially after shox and kennys reborn. Expect a good showing from G2 at the next major, along with Vitality.
2019-06-24 02:30
this is gonna be so good PepeLaugh
2019-06-24 02:24
The cockyness getting back to EliGe huh? the real reason why they didnt win columbus or cologne 2016 and s1mple left them for Na'vi
2019-06-24 02:25
#231
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Ireland BLAPBLAP 
Bruh. This guy is so arrogant.
2019-06-24 02:27
#238
NBK- | 
Estonia BlameS 
really..best after struggling so hard to beat G2 that's ranked 15th? lol..
2019-06-24 02:39
#245
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United States KpleeZy 
mad nerds can't handle the truth. if they're not the best in the world, then who is?
2019-06-24 02:51
#257
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North America ItsBl4z3 
So you win 2 tournaments in a row and you call yourself the best in the world?
2019-06-24 03:14
nah hltv did that for them
2019-06-24 13:05
#600
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United States 9ine_qBk 
3 events actually and all 3 part of the grand slam. Name any other team with better achievements in the past 3 months and then we talk.
2019-06-24 20:10
True. People should stop being toxic and embarrassing themselves.
2019-06-25 09:47
#678
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North America ItsBl4z3 
good luck telling this website not to be toxic china should stop embarrassing themselves and let their people use every fuccing website they've blocked
2019-06-25 16:29
So another toxic sarcasm incumming. BTW, HLTV can be reached without VPN. And dont fuccing mocking me for my gov's fuccing rediculous policy. I feel no shame be present on international website. Just accept it.
2019-06-26 17:05
just wait for navi lol haha
2019-06-24 02:56
not so sure. when astralis was top1, they nearly didnt lose to any team. but liquid has lose to ENCE, Navi, Faze, North, Vitality, not a stable one.
2019-06-24 03:06
#601
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United States 9ine_qBk 
Not every other number 1 teams in the past had an era as dominant as Astralis'. That doesn't mean those were not the best team in the world. Take Fnatic, SK, Faze or any other team that was the best in the world at some point. They were considered the best team in the world yet would keep losing in some events event now and then, either in quarters, semis or finals.
2019-06-24 20:14
#256
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North America ItsBl4z3 
Wait till liquid chokes at the major again... FeelsBadMan
2019-06-24 03:09
Remember what happen with vp, when TaZ saying about top1.
2019-06-24 03:18
#261
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North America ItsBl4z3 
at least VP are respectable...
2019-06-24 03:21
#270
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El Salvador Sp1x 
People keep saying that teams need to win a major to be the #1 team but the major isn't even as stacked as other tournaments due to the top 8 placements of the previous one.
2019-06-24 03:39
no lol 0/8
2019-06-24 03:42
#272
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United States @FyreCS 
Elige will definitely be a top 5 player this year... no wya he isn’t...
2019-06-24 03:42
now they need to win major
2019-06-24 03:45
No major No grand slam No era ResidentSleeper
2019-06-24 03:47
#282
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Iceland caverat 
Can you say one team better than lulquid -rn-?
2019-06-24 04:07
Vitality and navi just wait cologne bru
2019-06-24 04:14
#284
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Iceland caverat 
Im a huge navi fan but no Vitality is like lulquid on 2018/2019 (beggining) lets see Ence is another one who can show some sht on cologne
2019-06-24 04:21
#602
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United States 9ine_qBk 
How do people mention Na vi. I don't even understand. Forget big events, they haven't played a single LAN event in the past 2 months. They've lost every single BO3 against Liquid since May 2018, and those matches were not even close. And suddenly Na vi is now better than Liquid now? ESL PRO LEAGUE S7 Liquid 2 - 0 Na vi E-LEAGUE 2018 Liquid 2 - 0 Na vi ESL PRO LEAGUE S8 Liquid 2 - 0 Na vi IEM Katowice 2019 Liquid 2 - 0 Na vi IEM Sydney 2019 Liquid 2 - 0 Na vi
2019-06-24 20:30
#280
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Iceland caverat 
Its a shame But its true
2019-06-24 04:06
Just wait for cologne
2019-06-24 04:07
#285
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United States CallOfDuty 
All I know is when pro's say they're the number one team then they must be the number one team. I could care less what fat sweaty HLTV kids have to say. Stay triggered that the number one team is from NA.
2019-06-24 04:26
Liquid is inconsistent, one day they win lan games and proceed to lose an online matches and claiming that they are number one by 100% is just too cocky, don't get me wrong, I'm liquid fan too.
2019-06-24 07:36
really dont think so, not a hate or something like that. just a lot of mistakes in other matches + close game vs astralis one of the best team atm - yes, but not the best.
2019-06-24 04:28
You're 100% full of shit
2019-06-24 04:33
#289
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Brazil hsk- 
little bit arrogant there elige.. calm down your tits
2019-06-24 04:38
confidence not arogant
2019-06-24 16:56
#290
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Sweden meistr0 
lol bruh relax. Your team just became #1. Please dont become delusional like Astralis fans & players as well as Liquid fans
2019-06-24 04:39
😂 #1 in NA maybe, only by ranking, but its only number, they just somehow luckily won a tournament again, but its not so beautiful cs to watch, like watching astralis or ence some time ago, or mibr long, long time ago. I will be here waiting for them falling down the ladder. I think, they will be there, where they were before end of summer, or autumn, or this year 100% :D
2019-06-24 04:43
#302
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Faroe Islands Josuke 
hoes mad
2019-06-24 05:10
#292
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Argentina M4estre 
Coldzera: "we are 100% winning the major"
2019-06-24 04:50
#293
shox | 
India iejesus 
not for long.man
2019-06-24 04:52
#297
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Germany Bicepsislove 
before winning epl: hltv.org/news/27145/naf-the-epl-finals-a.. after winning epl: we are the best team 100%
2019-06-24 05:03
#305
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Poland Karti20 
ohohoo beeing coocky never ends good xd do you guys remember how it went for other teams that always had to act like that ?
2019-06-24 05:18
well this'll become a meme soon
2019-06-24 05:37
I hope so. Pride makes me sick.
2019-06-24 06:20
#313
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Russia TheMall 
Vitality will kill them. Ence will kill them. Na vi will kill them. Astralis will kill them next time.
2019-06-24 05:46
navi kek
2019-06-24 06:27
#414
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Russia TheMall 
Im pretty sure it will be. Will see
2019-06-24 09:10
#603
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United States 9ine_qBk 
Na vi has lost every single BO3 against Liquid since May 2018, and those matches were not even close. And suddenly Na vi is now a better team than Liquid with a game being played between the two? ESL PRO LEAGUE S7 Liquid 2 - 0 Na vi E-LEAGUE 2018 Liquid 2 - 0 Na vi ESL PRO LEAGUE S8 Liquid 2 - 0 Na vi IEM Katowice 2019 Liquid 2 - 0 Na vi IEM Sydney 2019 Liquid 2 - 0 Na vi
2019-06-24 20:34
#605
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Russia TheMall 
will see
2019-06-24 20:41
#607
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United States 9ine_qBk 
Of course!
2019-06-24 20:56
you are garbage as a team. aimbot+aug saving your day.
2019-06-24 05:56
#318
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United States jay_320 
These guy are literally on pace for a dynastic season. Not in the future but right now. RIGHT THIS MOMENT WITH THIS WIN. And you still have people that think they aren't the best. Not sure if Trolling or stupid at this point. Someone said above Astralis never lost a map to anyone during their era. At that point I had to stop reading the comments leave this lil reality check for everyone. If Liquid wins a Grand Slam title in 4 events they will be a historic team on that alone. If they don't and win the major they will have had an era. If they lose both and win the grand slam in the next or second next event they will still be the best team in the world by all metrics. Just not as dominant as they are looking now. Reality check.
2019-06-24 06:00
You will fall soon after that statement
2019-06-24 06:06
+1
2019-06-24 06:19
#321
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Ukraine minemax 
So, HR is the second best. :)
2019-06-24 06:10
#322
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Asia Mahathir62 
Be humble pls, why so cocky bro i hope u fall soon
2019-06-24 06:12
Pride comes before a fall. ELiGE just sealed their fate. RIP Liquid era.
2019-06-24 06:18
i still think new navi can beat any team
2019-06-24 06:13
#604
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United States 9ine_qBk 
Any team but Liquid. Prove me wrong! Na vi lost every single BO3 against Liquid since May 2018, and those matches were not even close. ESL PRO LEAGUE S7 Liquid 2 - 0 Na vi E-LEAGUE 2018 Liquid 2 - 0 Na vi ESL PRO LEAGUE S8 Liquid 2 - 0 Na vi IEM Katowice 2019 Liquid 2 - 0 Na vi IEM Sydney 2019 Liquid 2 - 0 Na vi
2019-06-24 20:36
dude in 2018 astralis was dominating but now they cant do anything . liquid cant dominate everytime
2019-06-24 22:55
so probably major is last event for zeus and lets see after that who will join navi
2019-06-24 22:55
#629
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United States 9ine_qBk 
That 's a discussion for later. Still quite some time left before the post major roster change happens. So that's irrelevant right now!
2019-06-24 23:01
#628
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United States 9ine_qBk 
And what are you basing Na vi's win over any team off? Have you seen them play yet? So far they've lost to liquid ever time so your statement of "Na vi" can beat any team" is irrelevant. Even if the new Na vi team, post the roster change has the capability to beat them, we haven't seen them do that yet. Cuz they haven't played a single game. So again, can't be knowing what you haven't seen.
2019-06-24 23:00
#325
Kush | 
Netherlands protiny 
Enjoy it while it lasts. And btw defo not "100%" showed way too many weaknesses for that. A couple more rounds in favor of a couple of other teams and they wouldnt have even reached the finals. Barely even qualified for cologne. Cg on the win but ffs be a bit humble about it when you have won it by the skin of your teeth.
2019-06-24 06:17
> And btw defo not "100%" showed way too many weaknesses for that. They don't need to dominate and destroy any team 16-0 in every match to be considered as "the best". Elige said they're the best, not perfect. And this is 100% true atm.
2019-06-24 06:32
#545
Kush | 
Netherlands protiny 
They don't need to dominate the teams 16-0 but it's telling that they almost didn't qualify for a big event when they were playing against teams they should easily beat. ForZe should have been no problem for them and they were, Spirit should have been easy but it was the other way round. They almost got eliminated by Hellraisers, They got fucked on by North. They are not "the best", they are certainly one of the best but not the best. There is no "the best" at the moment there are simply world class top 5-10 teams that at any moment can beat eachother. This was not the case during the Fnatic and Astralis eras for example.
2019-06-24 15:27
There is nothing they "should" and your expectations is your problem.
2019-06-24 16:46
#685
Kush | 
Netherlands protiny 
You sound just like a fanboy to me, if you shout "we are the best" I expect you to be the best and not lose to some teams ranked way below even top 20 and because of that almost not even reaching a premier tournament. That's not being the best, not even close to it and you won't make me change my mind on that.
2019-06-26 03:34
As I said your expectations is your own problem. Somebody can expect Liquid to have 100% winrate or to win 16-0 against everyone, but all of this has nothing with being the best, as well as "not lose to some teams ranked way below even top 20". You don't need to be a fanboy to understand this simple thing, you just have to don't be salty guy who can't (or doesn't want to) accept facts.
2019-06-26 03:39
#687
Kush | 
Netherlands protiny 
we just have different viewpoints. I think you are a fanboy and you think I'm salty, so be it.
2019-06-26 03:54
Fair enough.
2019-06-26 03:59
#701
NBK- | 
South Africa nimmaJ 
Yeah your viewpoint is based around speculation and his was based around facts. Liquid ARE the best team in the world right now. If the year ended tomorrow they would be considered the best team of 2019. Future tournaments could change that but your biased speculations cannot.
2019-06-28 11:33
#704
Kush | 
Netherlands protiny 
Let's agree to disagree.
2019-06-30 20:53
#705
NBK- | 
South Africa nimmaJ 
I guess you just disagree with facts, "An unwanted change, Epitacio "TACO" de Melo and Wilton "zews" Prado departing to MIBR, forced Liquid to create the lineup that has not only been their most successful one yet, but also has the potential to be one to enter the history books. Three back-to-back Big Event wins — IEM Sydney, DreamHack Masters Dallas, and ESL Pro League S9 Finals —, see the North American squad become the indisputable No.1 in the world while moving within one win from an Intel Grand Slam title."
2019-06-30 22:44
#329
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Denmark Ken92 
100% right now
2019-06-24 06:23
Vitality > liquid = g2
2019-06-24 06:26
Current Liquid reminds me Na`Vi 2010-2011. Their game isn't dominant, they can even struggle, but they clearly showed that they're able to beat ANY team even if they don't win every single tournament. Their recent results are great though.
2019-06-24 06:38
lost to north north 100 purecent best team
2019-06-24 06:36
100% is death and taxes
2019-06-24 06:42
#344
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Azerbaijan Thiccdik 
İf you win the Major, then i will agree with you
2019-06-24 06:44
they won't.
2019-06-24 06:55
#403
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Azerbaijan Thiccdik 
Yep i think so too
2019-06-24 08:50
#348
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Indonesia EvilPolish 
Some people say cocky , I say it's confidence. One of the best NA player for sure, if not the best right now
2019-06-24 06:50
haha ok
2019-06-24 07:12
#356
imoRR | 
Turkey VaKaNNa 
maybe %99 best team in the world not %100 :D
2019-06-24 07:23
not 100% if 100%, not lost by G2 1map
2019-06-24 07:24
#361
Zeus | 
Finland 0lter 
nt elige ence number 1
2019-06-24 07:27
elige is delusional
2019-06-24 07:30
X to doubt
2019-06-24 07:36
#367
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Poland kRAMERO 
LIQUID good but not the best, JW best
2019-06-24 07:36
yes
2019-06-24 07:39
#1
2019-06-24 07:40
congratz
2019-06-24 07:40
ence and potentially navi i’d say would be better contenders.
2019-06-24 07:41
#372
riv | 
Taiwan idoleat 
lol the only top team they haven't beaten is Vitality? Not even ENCE and NAVI? Too happy so you forgot your opponent?
2019-06-24 07:51
#706
NBK- | 
South Africa nimmaJ 
They beat Ence and Navi failed to qualify for EPL lmao
2019-06-30 22:48
#374
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Czech Republic GoodGuySeba 
I guess you are the best but stop being cocky...
2019-06-24 07:54
Be prepared for fnatic
2019-06-24 08:01
Wins few events and talk with big mouth LUL
2019-06-24 08:02
#378
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United States Toothyca 
I GOT THIS FOR YOU JON
2019-06-24 08:06
WHAT A PR1CK
2019-06-24 08:08
#382
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Philippines genji27 
It’s hilarious how EU fans still can’t accept the fact that Liquid is the #1 team in the world right now. Just because they’re not outright stomping their opponents doesn’t mean they’re not #1. So if they win, say, 8 or 9 out of the 10 next big tournaments, but they lose some maps and some of the matches were close, they wouldn’t still be #1? Being #1 is placing high in tournaments consistently, regardless of how close the matches are. And so what if they haven’t won a major yet? If you think C9 or Gambit deserved to be #1 when they won the major compared to Liquid who has been placing 1st/2nd in the last X tournaments, then that shows how you’re delusional or just irrationally hating on Liquid. Don’t worry, they’re on their way to winning the next major. Oh btw, before you say anything to me, I’ll start by saying I’m a poor and starving pignoise from the Philippines who’s in a shitty 3rd world country with an irrelevant CSGO scene. FITE ME. Liquid is the #1 CSGO team in the world right now. Period.
2019-06-24 08:10
+1 true words
2019-06-24 08:37
+1
2019-06-24 09:08
LMAOOO they beat ONCE Astralis and they won 3 tournaments after they lost like 13 finals you are fucking delusional get the fuck out NA fakeflagger stupid fat burger
2019-06-24 09:19
You become the best by winning or placing good at tournaments. Liquid has been in the grand final in pretty much every tournament they have attended this year, that's much more than you can say about Blastralis. Learn how the rankings work. You can't stay the best team in the world based on tournaments you won 6 months ago.
2019-06-24 14:46
#581
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Philippines genji27 
+1
2019-06-24 18:26
#383
720 | 
Faroe Islands sGaen 
top 1 in a scene with astralis barely playing, navi not even playing, faze playing 3v5, g2 in the finals omegalul
2019-06-24 08:10
navi ?? this trash hahahahha who cares about them LIQUID TOP 1 !
2019-06-24 08:21
bot team carried by toxic kid lmao
2019-06-24 08:21
#457
720 | 
Faroe Islands sGaen 
nt arab liquid fan gay 1 toxic kid won more in 2018 than the whole choking squad lmoa
2019-06-24 10:21
still more money for liquid for their second places :)))))
2019-06-24 11:52
ye
2019-06-24 08:21
#391
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Netherlands ZoMilan 
But not because they're extremely dominant/good (compared to previous #1s) more because the others got worse lul
2019-06-24 08:22
Pasha so much better, VP top1
2019-06-24 08:24
Hahahaha they beat Astralis once and this is what you get, pathetic bunch
2019-06-24 08:26
#394
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United States NA_BEST 
haha its so entertaining seeing all these EU plebs triggered after this was announced
2019-06-24 08:28
Agreed. No team is better at the moment. It's a very interesting situation now though that Astralis is struggling a bit but there are other challengers for Liquid.
2019-06-24 08:35
100 % Best team in the World Never won a major Pick one elige
2019-06-24 08:48
so what ? lmfao
2019-06-24 16:54
#620
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United States Nohj_ 
Faze was the best team with no major
2019-06-24 21:57
Lost all respect I had for Elige
2019-06-24 08:53
I agree with EliGE.
2019-06-24 08:56
Uhm no
2019-06-24 08:56
yes
2019-06-24 09:04
100% wrong chokequid
2019-06-24 09:05
#416
s1mple | 
Germany NatsuS 
No
2019-06-24 09:12
#417
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Bulgaria AboveYall 
Why are people denying it lol ? They are #1 atm and that is not even a question..
2019-06-24 09:14
yes
2019-06-24 09:14
#423
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Europe Freeburger97 
Na'Vi is coming
2019-06-24 09:21
Maybe they chose the wrong door or forget to update the GPS maps
2019-06-24 09:47
#445
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Europe Freeburger97 
hello thorin nice to meet you
2019-06-24 09:57
OMG how did you know???
2019-06-24 10:04
Maybe if you win Major...
2019-06-24 09:22
Its so dumb that so my people cant accept what is truth what is real. Maybe some fans like their team like religion and faith? tbh thats still dumb. No matter what, its hltv #1. Please force hltv to change the rules and change #1 to your favorite team.
2019-06-24 09:29
I am not sure the era tho'. They've been on the very edge couple of times.
2019-06-24 09:34
#429
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Indonesia kitsugi 
atm yes
2019-06-24 09:35
RiP lazy Blastralis
2019-06-24 09:46
#441
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Italy CHEBBOxxx 
lets see.. I saw improvement from astralis in montpellier. they won TL map pick after a dominant half, while on inferno almost every single round was very close. final result doesn't show what real happened. on inferno astralis on their T side got a bomb plant almost every round, TL did great on retakes but they were also very lucky with timing, clutches and small details. I still consider top-form-astralis better than any other team.
2019-06-24 09:53
#448
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Sweden ThorinEk 
In that case, I consider top-form fnatic better than any other team. Only problem is, fnatic never play at their top-form.
2019-06-24 10:04
+1
2019-06-24 13:17
#451
TenZ | 
North America TLenrico 
#1
2019-06-24 10:11
ELIGE: "WE'RE 100% THE BEST TEAM IN THE WORLD" is this a joke? wait for navi noob
2019-06-24 10:12
#455
Delpan | 
Bulgaria Ju7y 
NaVi lol. Anyways he is not speaking in future tense.
2019-06-24 10:13
#622
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Germany naeqode 
LUL
2019-06-24 22:32
#622
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Germany naeqode 
are you aware that the last time NaVi beat Liquid was almost 2 years ago ? Theyre 0-10 in matches vs Liquid since late 2017.
2019-06-24 22:32
#453
Delpan | 
Bulgaria Ju7y 
Bute eyesee ofekorseee
2019-06-24 10:12
wait for next major let see lol
2019-06-24 10:12
Elige > all ...> hltv users
2019-06-24 10:26
#474
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World memyselfandI 
NAF is way better than babyface.
2019-06-24 11:09
#461
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African Union mikecool 
NA on top. You might not like Liquid but you gotta admit they're playing some good cs. I think if they polish their in game tilt here and there they'll be unstoppable.
2019-06-24 10:28
I readed like EliGE lol
2019-06-24 10:29
#464
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Germany xoutblaze 
not really
2019-06-24 10:34
I arent think that
2019-06-24 10:39
#467
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France Sheld 
He already forgot Vitality beat Liquid in BO3 grand final recently ?
2019-06-24 10:43
#469
ZywOo | 
France GadfiZz 
Are they scared of Vitality? I mean he said it like that. It would be a great series to see them both fight each others, the two teams that are using the SG ;)
2019-06-24 10:50
2019-06-24 10:59
the bestee!
2019-06-24 11:03
#472
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Denmark fm100 
Im a Liquid fan myself. But you can’t already say they are better than Astralis when all they did was winning 2-1. And on vertigo they were behind 11-4 and only made wall smokes the entire T side:)
2019-06-24 11:07
still won. still #1 on HLTV. next.
2019-06-24 13:19
#473
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World memyselfandI 
Elige is a funny guy. He lacks true confidence, so tries to project it outwards hoping it bounces back to him. He spends too much time on HLTV, where a lot of people think they can create reality with words.
2019-06-24 11:08
yeah, sure, you're on G2 level, while Astralis wins 3 majors in row :D liquipedia.net/counterstrike/Majors Only once in finale, because of european s1mple. Elige: "We are 100% best team in the world because we've won french tournament now"
2019-06-24 11:24
#479
ZywOo | 
Sweden Le_Dieu 
Yes, but way shakier than previous #1s. GL maintaining!
2019-06-24 11:27
#482
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Sweden swedz2 
nt
2019-06-24 11:43
won a tournament => WE ARE BEST TEAM IN THE WORLD so funny
2019-06-24 11:44
#485
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Hungary subzera 
*won 4 tournaments and beat astralis several times along the way
2019-06-24 11:50
they actually beat astralis twice during the time and still won no major nor all tournaments in a row. Pretty bold to call something like they did. Astralis never did that btw.
2019-06-24 12:47
cause 'Merica does it better.
2019-06-24 13:20
#586
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Hungary subzera 
U right. Winning a major is the only way to be classified a good team CLOUD 9 NUMBA WAN GAMBIT NUMBA WAN
2019-06-24 19:24
I get that you have to play with the confidence that you're the best team in the world to be the best team in the world but liquid are not the undisputed best team in the world, you don't get to be the best without beating the best consistently, Astralis taking a bit of time off doesn't mean you get to go around calling yourself the best.
2019-06-24 11:51
Ranking wise they are without a doubt the team that deserves the top spot more than any team. They have either won or placed second in pretty much every tournament they have attended this year.
2019-06-24 14:40
#537
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Portugal portuBOT 
thats true but their victories are not that convincing tbh, just check yesterday's game. It was too close imo and with a bit more of luck, g2 could have won or at least get to vertigo
2019-06-24 14:58
It doesn't matter how convincing they look in a certain series. They've still won pretty much every tournament they've attended lately.
2019-06-24 15:34
Accolades sure but that's only thanks to Astralis not attending much this year, I get why HLTV and other rankings place them at #1, I get that purely looking at numbers on a spreadsheet why someone would say they are #1 but being the best team in the world isn't as simple as filling a number quota, it's about dominating your opponent's so much that every single game you enter you're the favourites to win by a clear margin, if liquid play Astralis and Liquid are favourites to win of a margin larger than 5% I'd be shocked and would place a bet.
2019-06-24 16:44
#592
NBK- | 
South Africa nimmaJ 
Nope that's your delusional version of what a #1 should be. In reality being #1 is just winning the most. What you're defining is an era.
2019-06-24 19:48
There is a difference between being #1 on rankings and being the best in the world, you're not the best in the world until you consistently beat the best in the world, something liquid have not yet done.
2019-06-24 20:56
#608
NBK- | 
South Africa nimmaJ 
So if someone asked you "hey I'm new to counterstrike competitive scene, who is the best team?" You wouldn't say Liquid?
2019-06-24 20:59
No i would say its a toss up between Liquid and Astralis, no one team is clearly above the other. The point im making is that sure, someone always has to sit at the top of a leader board due to the numbers of their recent achievements i get that, Liquid being proud of being the #1 ranked team i totally get that but calling them the best team in the world for me just doesn't seem right until they properly dethrone Astralis, that could come with Liquid beating them consistently over the next couple of tournaments or even Astralis bombing out of tournaments without even reaching Liquid.
2019-06-24 22:41
#632
NBK- | 
South Africa nimmaJ 
I'm just gonna stop this here. Each post you actively contradict yourself harder. What you're asking for is dominance, that's different from being the world #1. You can be the #1 without being dominant, e.g you can win a race by .2 seconds or 10 seconds, either way you still win the race and place #1.
2019-06-24 23:14
How do i contradict myself? Every single comment i've said that there is a difference between being the #1 team on a leaderboard and being the best team in the world, to me those two things are not mutually exclusive, obviously there always has to be a #1 ranked team in the world on a leaderboard but there isn't always times when there is a best team in the world. For example lets say Astralis, Liquid, Faze and MiBR all trade wins, one tournament Astralis wins, then the next Liquid and so on and so on, would you come out and say "Liquid is the best team in the world!" or would you admit that no one team stands out enough to be the best team in the world? That's all im saying, im saying that Liquid do not stand out more than Astralis as the best team in the world, sure they're ranked #1 because someone always has to be ranked number one but they haven't done enough to stand out above Astralis as clearly better than them, if it wasn't for Astralis not attending multiple lans then Liquid wouldn't even be the #1 ranked team in the world, its not like Astralis were doing shit before they took a break, sure their placements after the break aren't amazing but thats to be expected when you come back from not playing for a while.
2019-06-24 23:34
#642
NBK- | 
South Africa nimmaJ 
For example lets say Astralis, Liquid, Faze and MiBR all trade wins, one tournament Astralis wins, then the next Liquid and so on and so on, would you come out and say "Liquid is the best team in the world!" or would you admit that no one team stands out enough to be the best team in the world? No I wouldn't because that's not what's currently happening. What's currently happening is that Liquid have won their last 3 Big Events and have shown they are a level above Astralis and Ence.
2019-06-24 23:41
By last 3 big events im assuming you mean Dramhack Dallas, IEM Sydney and ESL Pro league? Where only 1 of them Astralis attended? Liquid have only in the past 2 months had 1st place results starting with IEM Sydney which was on April 30th. Before that they have never won a big event in the history of the team, don't believe me? hltv.org/stats/teams/events/5973/Liquid?.. check for yourself. So if all it takes to be the best team in the world is to win 3 big events in the space of 2 months which the former/current best team in the world didn't even attend 2 of then you really have low standards for what is considered the best team in the world.
2019-06-24 23:58
#647
NBK- | 
South Africa nimmaJ 
Yes that's all it takes there are only around a dozen big events a year and Liquid won 3 of them in a row, the same way Astralis was ranked 1st undeniably after they won their first 3 Big Events last year. You do realize were already halfway thru the year right? its Astralis fault for skipping big events, they get punished not the other way around. Theyve since had 2 chances to make playoffs of big events at ECS and EPL and failed. They are 1 event away from winning the intel grand slam while any other team still needs 3 or 4
2019-06-25 01:25
#492
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Norway LokeNnNnN 
pronax 3 majors elige 0 majors OMEGALUL
2019-06-24 11:59
#495
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North America AlanSmith 
where's pronax last 3 years?
2019-06-24 12:21
#504
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France ripmypickems 
among legends, unlike Elige))
2019-06-24 12:41
#516
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North America AlanSmith 
elige will be legend don't worry
2019-06-24 13:10
#511
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Norway LokeNnNnN 
Giving NA a chance to catch up
2019-06-24 12:57
+1 ez for STARCRAFT PLAYER! EZ FOR LIQUID!
2019-06-24 12:37
#503
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France ripmypickems 
still waiting for a major lmao))
2019-06-24 12:40
#505
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Croatia Jack Russell 
NA Pog
2019-06-24 12:45
#512
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China withsn 
still need one major. but alomost done
2019-06-24 13:00
He didnt said "at the moment", so hes a selfish fuck
2019-06-24 13:07
HAHAHAHA NO THEY'RE NOT AT ALL
2019-06-24 13:21
#523
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Bosnia and Herzegovina beastWest 
Right now but the best team in the WHOLE CSGO community ever was ASTRALIS they dominated 1 year all teams and won so many tournements.
2019-06-24 13:48
Late April fools
2019-06-24 14:01
#525
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United States FlagMaster 
All the NaVi fanboys have forgotten they haven’t beaten Liquid in ages
2019-06-24 14:09
HUMBLE GOD
2019-06-24 14:15
#528
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Chile strong221 
chill jablonowski
2019-06-24 14:26
#530
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Vietnam rollofocker 
why would you say that xD
2019-06-24 14:31
low iq
2019-06-24 14:32
Congrats to Liquid, you guys played lights out in this series! Was a great show to watch, and dam does it feel good to see NA back on top!
2019-06-24 14:55
arrogant?
2019-06-24 15:14
#544
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Europe Vallon3 
Pretty sure this is the only team in the history of CSGO to declare they're the best after one t1 tournament win, lmaoooo
2019-06-24 15:22
literally 3 in a row
2019-06-24 15:34
+1
2019-06-24 16:05
#552
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Croatia Netkov 
True.
2019-06-24 15:34
#554
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United States mmoji 
inb4 crushed by ence at cologne and major
2019-06-24 15:43
hahahaha the comments in this thread, people in the cs scene are such snowflakes. you cant state obvious facts without people freaking out and hating you. this is why players are fake as fuck in interviews because if they just state the obvious truth it causes a meltdown.
2019-06-24 15:54
yes he shouldve said : " we are trash " "bots" hltv is full of idtos
2019-06-24 16:51
No one can touch Liquid right now... and they still can get much better.
2019-06-24 16:00
#571
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Finland Slavikka 
your arrogance blinds you, mister elige
2019-06-24 16:53
#636
gfi | 
United States DiabIo 
elige is like the least arrogant player on liquid
2019-06-24 23:21
#574
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Brazil Krammerzera 
Not major, not top1
2019-06-24 16:56
thats why you fkng struggled againts 15th team xd
2019-06-24 17:15
#576
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Canada Porgal 
At the moment, yes. Winning three tier one events in a row will do that. I would of waited until after colonge to say this though.
2019-06-24 17:20
#577
s1mple | 
India KNOX23 
Hello team spirit is watching you And btw there was no boombl4 so you cant say that
2019-06-24 17:25
OMEGALUL
2019-06-24 17:32
#579
Estonia rYm 
can't disagree, but things can change very quickly
2019-06-24 17:49
0 major lul
2019-06-24 19:44
agree liquid best team atm.
2019-06-24 19:49
The hypocrisy in this thread painfully blinds me. They've worked so hard to get to this point, yet somehow people find a way to undermine their achievements. "Oh, they haven't won a major" - who the fuck cares! They are the best team AT THE MOMENT and according to the HLTV ranking, no one is close at all. They can boast all they want because they have earned it. If they manage to win Cologne (an extremely stacked event), hopefully the amount of degenerates decreases. People complained about Astralis being number one for ages, but still no one seems to be pleased. Goodness, this thread makes my chest hurt. Hit me with all the arguments, I will gladly destroy you.
2019-06-24 20:06
#667
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Finland gouca 
The difference is Astralis never claimed to be number one. Their fans sure did but advertising yourself as "100% the best team in the world" after struggling to win a T3-team and having no major achievements is hypocrisy and overestimation at its best. I get it, this is the American culture so it's impossible to turn your head but nobody at the top calls himself a top player, in any sports. This is so far the most ridiculous statement in CS-history and the guy who wrote this article knew it.
2019-06-25 10:15
eblan owski
2019-06-24 21:11
100% the best team and 100% the best player
2019-06-24 21:16
#633
ZywOo | 
United Kingdom Kamin 
doubt
2019-06-24 23:15
lmao 21? i thought he is older than that
2019-06-24 23:24
general rule in life... if you need to tell people you’re the best, then you’re probably not the best
2019-06-24 23:28
After few years of top5-10 now they are top1 for like a month and they scream out loud 'we are the best 100%' OMEGALUL calm titties down, first win MAJOR and then give statements like that
2019-06-25 01:20
#648
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Europe 27 
19/6/2019 - 21:05 (after being defeated by north on their first map at the tournament) NAF: "[THE EPL FINALS AND ESL ONE COLOGNE] ARE GOING TO DETERMINE WHO THE REAL #1 IS AND WHO THE TOP TEAMS ARE" 24/6/2019 - 00:35 (after winning tournament previously considered by them as not that important for determine the real nr. 1) ELIGE: "WE'RE 100% THE BEST TEAM IN THE WORLD" anyone else see the hypocrisy? :D
2019-06-25 01:32
#652
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Spain mokerz 
xD nt light bulb
2019-06-25 03:32
no beat furia again and then say
2019-06-25 09:00
#665
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Finland gouca 
Typical murican self-overestimation. After watching the finals where they struggled against G2 I'd hardly call that the definite best team in the world.
2019-06-25 10:11
#697
gfi | 
United States DiabIo 
USA_6_moon_landing_finland_0
2019-06-27 09:06
G2 did a decent tournament for once and they are directly amazing? Please.. Best way to call yourself great is to say your opponents played amazingly good. Ridiculous.
2019-06-25 13:54
LULQUID PogChamp
2019-06-25 14:36
#675
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Sweden shirre 
Wow that's so american of EliGE. Come back when you've dominated the scene for 2 years like Astralis did. Liquid has struggled through and won 2-3 recent events and he acts like they're the gods of CS. And yes, it's cool to be rank 1 but please calm down.
2019-06-25 15:21
Well, if that is the case, then that says more about the current state of the pro scene.
2019-06-25 16:06
self claim LUL
2019-06-26 08:58
Hahhaahhahahaahaha NO
2019-06-26 18:45
na f4gs thinks they are good at computer strike wait until next major ez trophy for godstralis
2019-06-28 12:27
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