FalleN: "LUCAS1 is a bit more outspoken; the team realized we needed someone like him"

We caught up with Gabriel "⁠FalleN⁠" Toledo following MIBR's underwhelming debut with Lucas "⁠LUCAS1⁠" Teles at ESL One Cologne to hear about the change and what the team is working on at the moment.

Losses to fnatic and BIG ended the Brazilian team's run at ESL One Cologne early, seeing them place 13-16th at the prestigious event, following up on poor showings at ECS S7 Finals and EPL S9 Finals.

FalleN is hoping LUCAS1 can shake up the MIBR

In an interview with FalleN, we heard about the roster change, what LUCAS1 brings in, and discussed what the difference between the dominant lineup of 2016-2017 and the one he leads today is.

I'll start with the roster change, get straight into it. Tell me about getting LUCAS1, what was the idea behind it, and why him?

We wanted to try someone else to try and have a different approach to mainly two things. One is outside of the game, we feel like he's a bit more outspoken than felps and the team realized we needed someone like him to fill the gap. We felt there was a bit of a gap with felps in that regard. Inside the game, felps was trying to do his best and learn different roles, but some of the positions he had to play and the style we needed him to play wasn't very natural for him. He struggled a little bit to really understand the concepts that we at the time thought were important for our evolution as a team. It was all friendly, the conversation with felps, of course, he was sad to leave the team, but he understood the points and I tried to tell him a few things, that he can get experience from his time with the team and things he can learn to get better for the future. He has a brilliant career ahead of him, so many years to play Counter-Strike, many more than me, so I'm sure he'll do even better in the future.

LUCAS1 was rumored to be one of the players considered back in 2016 when fnx was leaving the team. Why didn't that change happen back then, and why did he get the opportunity now?

Yeah, that's true. At the time we invited him to join the team, but he didn't want to leave because they would have lost their Major spot or something like that and he didn't want to leave his brother and his former teammates without a Major spot. In the end, it didn't pay off for him because they didn't end up going to the Major anyway, so it was kind of a lost opportunity for him. We thought about him at the time because of his in-game skill and the positions he was playing, anchoring sites. It made a lot of sense to have him on the team in terms of in-game things at the time.

This time around I think it's the same, I'm very impressed with his level. He comes from a different CS school than us, which feels very different and sometimes he doesn't organize his ideas very well and fast, but his skill is outstanding. Even here in Cologne, he was able to find some opportunities for us in lost rounds that are not easy to find, even if we didn't win the rounds he did a very good job. He's also helping us outside the game, having someone new that never played with the team, pointing out mistakes and making sure he's hyping everyone up and trying to be a positive influence for everyone to work hard, I think that's a good thing and I'm very satisfied to have him on the team.

You touched on him bringing some critique to the ideas that you have. One of the things people have been criticizing you, as MIBR, is the core of the team, fer, coldzera, and you, always having your way. Do you think that will change a little bit with him having a voice to change some of the ideas you have?

It ends up that we made a lot of changes in this lineup after a long time, and we never touched those players, but that's because the team idea of what's best for the future never came to changing one of those players. In the future, if something's not going well, it may happen. We're not untouchable. It is just that every time the team talked the solution was never alongside changes to that core, but it's nothing special. Somehow, I think this core, our core, we need to reinvent ourselves. We need to show better CS and I'm pretty sure we're capable of that, but right now we're struggling with some stuff that we need to fix in order to achieve that.

As an in-game leader, looking back maybe like a year and a half, everyone would say that FalleN is the best in the world. Now with Astralis dominating gla1ve maybe has that title, you fell down in that regard. How do you feel about your abilities leading in the game at the moment?

I think I understand the game pretty well, but it changed a lot from the past. Even before, I don't think it was only the calls that made me the best in-game leader, it was because I was playing with the best players and they had a very good idea of how the game should be played. They were reacting very appropriately in every situation at the time, and some of that, at least half of that, isn't because of me.

Some stuff just happens naturally, by players' decisions a lot of times, but nowadays I compare ourselves and I see that we make so many little mistakes, so many flaws in terms of the fast reactions that players are doing. It's not even a leading problem, in my opinion, I've been trying to reinvent myself in terms of how I'm going to approach the tournament, if I want to be specific on approaching a match, or if I want to give more freedom, I tried a lot of things and all of them resulted in not being good, so in the end I think it's about other things than just calling that are making us struggle right now.

One of the things that happened recently, coldzera answered a tweet to someone comparing this lineup to when it was the best, and it was something along the lines that before you had the individual skill to smooth over the small mistakes, but that those mistakes are now costing you the rounds. Do you think that's a thing, that you were just that good back then that you could get away with stuff?

To be honest, at the time I think we were better players compared to the others, and right now we're not better than the players we're playing against. We'd be lucky to say we're playing at the same level as some of the other competition right now. This means that you're going to need to be more organized to win some of those situations and in that regard, overthinking about that can make you struggle because if you start to think you need to be one step ahead of everyone, it's overcomplicated CS. That's something we're trying to avoid, I don't think it's in the meta nowadays, so somehow we need to find the balance between all of those thoughts and processes in the game and just play being smart and taking the opportunities that we have in the game as a team, because these days people react fast, but they react as a team, so if one piece of the team is not really understanding what is going on and how fast adaptation needs to happen, then there's a problem because playing fast isn't going to be enough.

Back in the days the best team in the region could pick up all the best talent coming up from lower teams. But something that happened in the past year or so is that some of the players that you originally wanted, you couldn't get because of buyouts, so how is it for you now compared to back in the day?

I think the scene is developing a lot, esports in general, not just Counter-Strike, so it's natural to have stronger contracts and bonds between players and teams, higher buyouts, and all of those things that is going to make any transfer you want to make hard. If you think about international lineups it's very hard because of all of those factors, nowadays if you want to change a player, and this happens even with the smaller teams in Brazil, they have contracts with their teams and all of those things. That's natural. For us as a team, it kind of limits how much we can change as a team, but we never wanted to change that much that it really made a difference, but who knows for the future, for the MIBR organization, for example, it may be harder for them than it was before.

Generally, do you think this good for the scene?

To say if it's good or not, we can make some analysis on what happened to FURIA for example, they came from a project that was very similar in my opinion to the one that we did in 2015-16, everyone came together from nowhere and made something unique happen, and I respect that a lot. The emphasis they have on staying together, I think that's very good for them even though I think that individually it could be better for one of them at the very moment to join a bigger team, for example, MIBR, so there are ups and downs in terms of those things. It can be a wasted opportunity for one of them, but maybe if they keep working as hard as they are, nothing says they can't achieve the same with this lineup.

It's hard to say if it's better or not for the scene, but I think having long contracts can be tough for players because you never know the future. Things can go well for half a year or a year and then you can struggle. We've seen other teams and other players getting into a bad spot because of this, and I think the best example right now, and this is just my guess, is suNny. He had an amazing year last year and we haven't seen him play this year, and contracts may be one of the reasons, although I'm not sure. I kind of have high expectations of the FURIA owners, and I don't think they would ever really harm their players, so if the situation really gets bad and they need a change or someone really wants to go, they would try to make it happen.

Lastly, there have been some tough times for MIBR and MIBR fans. What can you say to the people that have been critical or have lost some faith in the team?

I think it's natural that people are a little bit disappointed in us because we and everyone knows that we should be capable of a lot more than we're showing right now and what I can tell everyone that we've been trying hard. Sometimes we've even wasted energy in the wrong places, and even if there's some misdirection on what we're working for and where we're heading, we're putting in a lot of work and commitment to try and get out of this slump.

There are tough moments in which we feel we're improving but then it slows down again, so we're trying to figure it out. There are things we can improve as individuals to make the atmosphere and the teamwork better because in my opinion when it gets to this level of not being able to come back to the level we were at before, it's not about in-game stuff anymore. We've been trying different players, different strategies, different approaches to how we're going to play the matches, and it's not that suddenly everyone is suddenly much better than us. There's surely something for us to analyze and improve as people and to relearn how to get better again.

Brazil Lucas 'LUCAS1' Teles
Lucas 'LUCAS1' Teles
Age:
26
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.98
Maps played:
732
KPR:
0.67
DPR:
0.67
Brazil Gabriel 'FalleN' Toledo
Gabriel 'FalleN' Toledo
Age:
30
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.09
Maps played:
1086
KPR:
0.71
DPR:
0.60
Easy 2-0 Astralis today
2019-07-06 13:30
31 replies
mibr omegalul
2019-07-06 13:32
17 replies
#11
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Brazil gresote
navi kkkkk
2019-07-06 13:33
16 replies
furia kkkkk
2019-07-06 13:34
15 replies
#20
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Brazil gresote
furia or mibr > navi
2019-07-06 13:36
14 replies
no offense but you seems fakeflag xaxa
2019-07-06 13:38
13 replies
#29
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Brazil gresote
pau no cú
2019-07-06 13:41
3 replies
Unluko
2019-07-06 13:56
2 replies
Mibr REALLY needed someone like Lucas, this picture summarizes it all hltv.org/gallery/view/126945
2019-07-06 14:39
1 reply
fallen was dying after the clutch, so he was very very concentrated on the game
2019-07-06 20:05
U are Turkish Na'Vi fan?
2019-07-06 13:50
6 replies
#44
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Brazil gresote
U are korean Na'Vi fan?
2019-07-06 14:02
5 replies
#63
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Italy Dgisey
i'm romania na'vi fan...
2019-07-06 14:22
I am russian fan, but i live in South Korea ;)
2019-07-06 14:25
3 replies
you have to prove it :) speak korean
2019-07-06 14:30
2 replies
Anyonhaseyo, nanun Oleg imnida. Nanun 18 nyon imnida. Gurigu Pusan-eso sal'imnida ;)
2019-07-06 18:03
Anyonhaseyo, nanun Oleg imnida. Nanun 18 nyon imnida. Gurigu Pusan-eso sal'imnida ;)
2019-07-06 18:02
Dude his nickname is brazillian wtf, seus chupadores de rola.
2019-07-07 06:38
1 reply
what means pau no cú ?
2019-07-07 13:18
#19
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Poland Unluko
Nice player
2019-07-06 13:35
7 replies
#68
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Belgium sasha_king
who is nice player ?
2019-07-06 14:25
6 replies
It's me
2019-07-06 14:27
3 replies
who are you ?
2019-07-06 14:30
2 replies
Nice player
2019-07-06 14:43
1 reply
Nice
2019-07-06 17:14
#84
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Poland Unluko
FalleN
2019-07-06 15:03
1 reply
#93
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Belgium sasha_king
0/8
2019-07-06 16:09
-1
2019-07-06 14:57
#109
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Estonia RopzTop1
welp
2019-07-06 19:01
this didnt age well
2019-07-06 19:06
Astralis lost. Very soon navi will be the best, Bcos they play methodical cs and they know how to use simple. He camps and helps navi so well. Likewise with vitality. Rest of the clans will struggle this year.
2019-07-06 19:25
#121
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Ukraine danch1k
LUUUUUL
2019-07-06 20:31
Awesome, hopefully the change works.... and we'll see if Lucas can play without his brother for once
2019-07-06 13:30
5 replies
#13
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Brazil gresote
-lucas +yuurih
2019-07-06 13:33
4 replies
Heh 5 years Furia contacts XD
2019-07-06 13:51
3 replies
#45
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Brazil gresote
who cares contacts stupid
2019-07-06 14:03
2 replies
#110
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Estonia RopzTop1
...buyouts are expensive? use your brain
2019-07-06 19:01
I think you don't have any braincells left...
2019-07-06 20:03
olk
2019-07-06 13:29
1 reply
Thats exactly what mibr needed, someone outgoing to keep the spirits up after elimimation Nice1 fallenzera
2019-07-06 14:12
#4
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Spain elskio
Lucas1 will get kick soon
2019-07-06 13:30
3 replies
Hmmm Maybe
2019-07-06 13:53
Probably
2019-07-06 20:04
#130
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Brazil Fauchard
I think 3 or 4 bad results...
2019-07-06 22:31
ye sure
2019-07-06 13:30
#6
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France StickyRice
"We need someone like him to make losing a bit more fun." :)
2019-07-06 13:30
4 replies
#69
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Belgium sasha_king
lmao
2019-07-06 14:25
Nobody understands losses like french people, maybe you should offer some counselling to the boys.
2019-07-06 14:37
2 replies
#86
arT | 
Brazil logzera
+1
2019-07-06 15:09
Come again, losing vs BIG and getting 7-1’d, M16R isn’t enough to stay quiet?
2019-07-06 16:11
Please win
2019-07-06 13:32
#8
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Poland Julka
Maybe it's too early to judge them, but I think this roster is even worse
2019-07-06 13:32
1 reply
+1
2019-07-06 13:34
#10
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United States WilsonDS
Epic
2019-07-06 13:32
MIBR keep changing one player and it never works. When will they realize that the 5th player is not the problem.
2019-07-06 13:33
4 replies
Just like C9 a while back. Soon they will remove one of the core members and hopefully come back to form.
2019-07-06 14:39
2 replies
Yeah, I see one of the core players being problem ingame and other one being problem out of the game...
2019-07-06 20:05
Back to form?, like C9? Top #25 LUL
2019-07-07 01:28
Yeah, they should just bring fnx back.
2019-07-06 19:51
#14
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Poland Astoner55
Cool xD
2019-07-06 13:34
#17
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Turkey M@CHINE
lose against BIG in 2k19 on LAN :)
2019-07-06 13:34
RIP SuNny
2019-07-06 13:35
4 replies
#27
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Europe LoookATme
Fucking overrated players as fuck that's why he is not in team
2019-07-06 13:40
3 replies
Aw, are you having a bad day? Do you need a hug?
2019-07-06 14:07
2 replies
#58
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Europe LoookATme
My day will be better after Vitality wins and navi ;)
2019-07-06 14:15
The nicest reply I've seen here in a long time. Good job!
2019-07-06 14:36
here we go again, same excuses same problems again
2019-07-06 13:47
#22
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Indonesia Exodd
Sure thing, Toledo. Let’s see how the team performs in upcoming Blast
2019-07-06 13:36
Germany > Brazil
2019-07-06 13:37
3 replies
#47
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Brazil gresote
bug kkkkkkkkkkkkkk
2019-07-06 14:03
2 replies
bug > mibr and furia tier 3 without aug xaxaxaxaxaxa
2019-07-06 14:13
1 reply
Delusional , bug>mibr yeah , but furia? Lmao
2019-07-06 14:21
"The emphasis FURIA have on staying together, I think that's very good for them even though I think that individually it could be better for one of them at the very moment to join a bigger team, for example, MIBR" Fallen directly indicating Kscerato and Saying Mibr is a better team than Furia in the last line.
2019-07-06 13:41
1 reply
#70
Twistzz | 
Singapore 3st
they're both very incosistent imo
2019-07-06 14:25
#26
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Europe LoookATme
Hahahahah joke of the day XD
2019-07-06 13:40
Gg
2019-07-06 13:41
-Fallen +Lucas1
2019-07-06 13:42
3 months later MIBR benched LUCAS1
2019-07-06 13:44
4 replies
actually, its just a loan till the end of the year, if doesn't work well, they won't sign a real deal.
2019-07-06 14:21
3 replies
END of the major*
2019-07-06 19:17
2 replies
nah..
2019-07-06 19:26
1 reply
UPDATE: HLTV.org has learned that LUCAS1 is joining MIBR on loan until after the StarLadder Major. This means that, at the very least, he will attend four events with the team: ESL One Cologne, BLAST Pro Series Los Angeles, IEM Chicago and the Major. hltv.org/news/27195/mibr-confirm-lucas1-..
2019-07-06 19:28
Lucas kick fallen
2019-07-06 13:45
yeah right...
2019-07-06 13:45
nothing will change with lucas1...
2019-07-06 13:46
only empty words everytime,and 0 improve . they literally hope now for lucas to pull out a s1mple/ zywoo cold fallen and fer have 0 impact on the game
2019-07-06 13:47
disband plz
2019-07-06 13:50
1 reply
#100
cogu | 
Brazil Te_iN
agree
2019-07-06 16:30
#41
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United States DiabIo
last place.
2019-07-06 13:53
#43
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Germany Naviever
Twofaced
2019-07-06 13:58
1 reply
#48
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Brazil gresote
talking bug fan kkkk
2019-07-06 14:03
Fallen best sniper after s1 and Zy
2019-07-06 14:03
"The emphasis they have on staying together, I think that's very good for them even though I think that individually it could be better for one of them at the very moment to join a bigger team, for example, MIBR, so there are ups and downs in terms of those things" Lol why would a tier2 FURIA player join a tier100 team such as MIBR?
2019-07-06 14:05
1 reply
+1
2019-07-06 14:21
mibr is an outdated team.
2019-07-06 14:06
dead team
2019-07-06 14:06
#52
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Myanmar xdcc
why is this tagged as ESL Cologne? it should be Cologne airport)
2019-07-06 14:07
1 reply
hahahahhahahahhahahhaahahhahahahahahha
2019-07-06 14:24
fallen, you are great player but please disband as soon as you can brother, it aint working out with you guys, you guys might play better with different team (except fer, he is shit)
2019-07-06 14:07
"Lucas was one of the players that we considered, during a certain period he was to be our fifth player, but then we decided to go for felps because we thought we would be more successful with him," Gabriel "Twofaced" Toledo 2017
2019-07-06 14:12
#59
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Brazil edgy_man
felps being discriminated for being shy, wow
2019-07-06 14:15
2 replies
I don't think a plastic boy would care
2019-07-06 14:24
It's hard to play with such people. When it's alright, you get no energy back from them, when they are making mistakes, you don't get any feedback and after some time start to question their ability to listen, even if they understand the issue just fine.
2019-07-06 16:25
They need big changes. The fallen/cold/fer's trio + 2 doenst fit anymore
2019-07-06 14:24
Afrika cs lmao
2019-07-06 14:34
1 reply
#81
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Brazil gresote
where is kazakhstan 3rd world kkkkk ? we are white racist idiot
2019-07-06 14:47
Really nice interview, I didn't read excuses but the truth being spoken. Individually some players are bottom fragging in a few maps, usually the same players used to be top fragging and winning clutches. It is not happening anymore. I see a lot of inconsistency that must be fixed and It's not fallen fault.
2019-07-06 14:57
4 replies
mibr guys are working hard but not smart enough. all they have to do is make sure all player are on the same book which i dont see them doing it. instead, they let the player do naturally what they want to do that is the cause of inconsistency instead of having a nice organized playstyle.
2019-07-06 22:16
3 replies
I really don't think that the problem is tatics or playstyle. It seems that individually players are not winning like they used to do. They must get that self-confidence back. They must get the self confidence back and play for the team.
2019-07-06 22:39
2 replies
yes it could be about confidence too but nowadays playstyle you cant do any kind of play naturally by yourself without telling other teammates, you must always be on the same book as much as possible to be consistent which i dont see it in mibr playstyle, this unorganize playstyle is the cause of inconsistency in players being in random position without proper role.
2019-07-06 22:48
1 reply
I think there are room for an unorganized & agressive playstyle like old fnatic and immortals. But I agree with you because it is not mibr case, Fallen, Zews & co playstyle is technical and organized.
2019-07-06 23:39
nobody: LUCAS1: QUE OTA KKKKKKKKKK
2019-07-06 15:04
1 reply
#140
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Brazil zzzzzzznt
+11111
2019-07-07 03:47
#87
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Poland kRAMERO
Pleas retire with end of the year od even leave yall mibr. It will be easier and cheaper to buy whole furia team then build this thrash team
2019-07-06 15:16
#88
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Poland Ktav
Fallen when you will realise “ No fNx No major “
2019-07-06 15:33
#89
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Poland Ktav
Next person more outspoken will be KNG
2019-07-06 15:34
steel disagrees
2019-07-06 15:36
Please, disband. This core has already peaked. Just like virtus.pro wouldn't be able to get back to the top with neo and pasha, you guys won't be able to get back to tier 1 with this core. You don't need to retire, but mix your experience with some young talent like destiny, xand and chelo from intz
2019-07-06 15:38
"we needed someone like him" a bot to taco's feel good at least one time knowing now he isn't the only one who is being bad, a bot, an anchor every match
2019-07-06 15:41
1 reply
#108
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Brazil vass28
+1
2019-07-06 18:24
I think mibr problem comes from their personalities, coldzera might be a good player... but he doesn't look like the best type to play with. Can't see them going any further with the current roster.
2019-07-06 16:10
#96
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India otgps
After 6 months: Lucas was too outspoken. We had to remove him to keep the team together.
2019-07-06 16:15
YOU SUCK now hire me
2019-07-06 16:21
#99
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Brazil JgzMcz
2facedfallen
2019-07-06 16:26
why bring him in the first place? that doesnt ake any sense
2019-07-06 17:13
2019 loses to Big disband plz
2019-07-06 17:36
well, fallen surely is optimistic, buts its always the same speech after roster changes: "the new player is exactly what the team needed"
2019-07-06 17:37
#106
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United Kingdom DonSkankz
Lucas is trash; what are you on about?
2019-07-06 17:58
Always the same talk. Not even they believe in this shit anymore. At least they are cashing out the checks.
2019-07-06 21:06
#123
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United States laiff
So you need a guy who can shout que ota and talk like you guys while sacrificing one of the better players on your team and the most quiet
2019-07-06 21:16
1 reply
"while sacrificing one of the better players on your team and the most quiet" > A player that plays a style that doesnt fit in the team & just push & die all rounds, lol. Felps isnt a bad player, but he doesnt fit into MiBR, he could do good in LG or even a team like Furia.
2019-07-06 22:19
#124
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Brazil oldStar
"We're not untouchable." LIAR !!!
2019-07-06 21:40
The team need disband
2019-07-06 22:17
+1 I agree with FalleN here. Also Lucas1 is more "hype" person/player as well, which helps the team.
2019-07-06 22:18
#128
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Brazil fuNNa
just disband
2019-07-06 22:19
The truth is that Taco has the best individual game, Lucas1 encourages the team and tries to play while Coldzera is horrible since last year, nor was he in the game since last year (I know he played well the first game with that line, but that's all) and Fallen is outdated on a gamelider
2019-07-06 22:47
#136
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Denmark Ritsuryo
nt fallen but mibr should disband soon to save taco and lucas
2019-07-06 23:48
Played against this guy 1 time when he was in europe with luminosity , this guy is crazy . Only positive things seen !
2019-07-07 00:26
get kicked soon
2019-07-07 01:40
#142
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Sweden Div-\
This interview aged well.
2019-07-07 11:22
#144
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Russia zLex67
-coldzera > -mibr
2019-07-07 14:13
#145
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Venezuela rodux
Fallen is so political and fake... dude stay humble and stop changing roster... YOU are the problem. Coldzera knows it.. thats why hes leaving you.
2019-07-08 03:46
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