ZywOo claims ESL One Cologne MVP award

Vitality superstar Mathieu "ZywOo" Herbaut is the Most Valuable Player of ESL One Cologne 2019 by HLTV.org and betway.

The French youngster secured the award after inspiring Vitality to a runners-up finish in Germany with a tournament-leading 1.33 rating across 17 maps played.

ZywOo was on a 13-map streak of 1.00+ ratings ahead of the grand final, putting up key performances all throughout the French team's lower bracket run in the group stage. He kept up a fantastic level in the playoffs, which included an out-of-this-world 1.87 series rating against NRG and a 1.36 rating versus Astralis, pushing Vitality to the grand final.

ZywOo secures his third MVP in the last six weeks

Although he recorded his only two below-average maps in the grand final against Liquid, the 18-year-old was still a key performer in the title decider thanks to great play on Dust2 and Inferno. That helped him fend off a threat from Jonathan "EliGE" Jablonowski, the biggest candidate for the award from the winning side.

With two big-event MVPs to his name in 2019, ZywOo has now tied his aforementioned American rival after winning his first at ECS Season 7 Finals a month ago, and overtook him with three in total this year combined with his accolade from cs_summit 4.

United States Jonathan 'EliGE' Jablonowski
Jonathan 'EliGE' Jablonowski
Age:
22
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.08
Maps played:
1134
KPR:
0.75
DPR:
0.69
APR:
0.16
France Mathieu 'ZywOo' Herbaut
Mathieu 'ZywOo' Herbaut
Age:
18
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.31
Maps played:
482
KPR:
0.88
DPR:
0.63
APR:
0.13
Well played, deserved !!
2019-07-07 21:54
#7
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Sweden Unluko 
Insane player
2019-07-07 21:53
not deserved!!!
2019-07-07 21:56
Wtf ?
2019-07-07 21:58
baguette shocked, cry me a river.
2019-07-07 22:05
I'm just surprised
2019-07-07 22:06
#205
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Russia i_love_nbk 
You are just the same baguette as him LUL
2019-07-07 22:14
Belgian don't know how to bake a real baguette
2019-07-07 22:24
#321
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Turkey Tormund1 
you know he is not talking about baking baguettes right?
2019-07-07 23:25
the russki say about the belgian he is the same baguette !! NONONOOOOO they don't know how to really cook a good baguette
2019-07-08 00:06
#372
arT | 
Brazil PQD28 
reunion food is just amazing bro
2019-07-08 01:03
??????????????????? heuuu ?
2019-07-08 01:30
#525
gob b | 
Germany KREDDIT 
He does not know anything bout colonies ;D
2019-07-08 18:14
#460
flusha | 
Belgium LaaB09 
You bake a baguette not cook.
2019-07-08 07:56
Actually we know How to make good baguette as well but dont listen to this belgian fraud traitor. Zywoo is a god
2019-07-08 07:37
#228
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Russia GramDEL 
Talking about yourself lul?
2019-07-07 22:19
no, i was referring to the french guy comment.
2019-07-08 03:34
#499
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Russia GramDEL 
You're just as baguette as him lol
2019-07-08 14:46
no, i was referring to the french guy comment.
2019-07-08 18:40
#248
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Belgium haasecsgo 
im shamed to share your nationality
2019-07-07 22:24
me too (:
2019-07-08 03:33
Expected from Dutch person
2019-07-07 23:28
He's not Dutch...
2019-07-08 01:41
+1
2019-07-08 03:32
+1
2019-07-08 14:58
Flag checks out. The northern half of Belgium speaks Dutch.
2019-07-08 20:13
Ok. That doesn't mean hes from the Netherlands, does it?
2019-07-09 02:36
No, I was referring to the linguistic group of Dutch people.
2019-07-09 02:38
Lol
2019-07-09 02:40
#459
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Belgium haasecsgo 
still better than your ching chong shit
2019-07-08 07:44
+1 elige deserved this
2019-07-07 21:59
+1 no clue why it doesn't go to elige.
2019-07-07 22:01
#293
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United States malarm 
nah zywoo put vitality on his back and carried them through the lower bracket to the finals and was the only reason they were completive against a much better liquid team
2019-07-07 22:56
+1 elige
2019-07-08 04:27
#73
ZywOo | 
United States Rxalize 
NT to the Baguettes got lucky to win a map however GodwOo> Bot S1mple
2019-07-07 21:56
+1
2019-07-07 21:57
Its pretty much never deserved when a losing player is mvp
2019-07-07 21:58
Modric
2019-07-07 22:01
Modric won CL tho
2019-07-07 22:03
He also won the world cup golden ball despite losing ;)
2019-07-07 22:04
#370
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Brazil arthureich 
he is talking about the world cup best player
2019-07-08 01:00
Its an individuell prize and imo the Best Player deserved. And No Team archivments.
2019-07-07 22:06
#233
oBo | 
United States 1nsaneMe 
+1
2019-07-07 22:20
Team achievments should be a factor but not the only factor
2019-07-07 22:23
#346
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Ukraine FGVM 
That S1mple Starladder mvp was very much deserved tho.
2019-07-07 23:54
#134
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Brazil bielxrd 
AMAZING PLAYER, +++
2019-07-07 22:00
#357
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Denmark LordZiska 
+1
2019-07-08 00:22
Cry
2019-07-08 05:36
#2
 | 
United States aust_h 
congrats xylophone!
2019-07-07 21:53
+1
2019-07-08 11:56
pog Insane player, deserved ! He will the mvp of berlin and win his first major #zygod #vforvictory
2019-07-07 21:57
#74
shox | 
Turkey SiegHe1l 
Idc care who wins the major Hopefully lulquid does not win it so I can luagh way more than being sad atm
2019-07-07 21:56
liquid will be the favorite at the major, if they lose it's gonna be a huge disappointment for them
2019-07-07 21:57
#104
shox | 
Turkey SiegHe1l 
fuck lulquid hopefully they won't
2019-07-07 21:58
#186
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United States camdavis9 
wtf men (((
2019-07-07 22:08
#193
rain | 
Bolivia Natusch 
wtf men ((( x2 why u so mad
2019-07-07 22:10
#246
Xyp9x | 
Turkey Orgrim 
Heartless spotted xd
2019-07-07 22:24
Mad because Turkish scene dead 😎
2019-07-08 00:29
Except GODxic that was Smart enough to play in international teams :)
2019-07-08 01:20
#481
shox | 
Turkey SiegHe1l 
orgrim spotted xd
2019-07-08 11:15
Name checks out
2019-07-07 22:35
They still are a disappointment. If they lose the major which is very highly possible, it will be heartbreaking for them. If they win it than they can start grinding to facilitate the #1
2019-07-08 02:20
#519
shox | 
Turkey SiegHe1l 
they won't have an era, just saying
2019-07-08 17:26
I know, they have a long way to go for an era. Even if they win everything including the major, they will still need to show more in order to be considered an era worthy team
2019-07-09 02:06
The c in idc stands for care. And you're heartless :'(
2019-07-08 17:25
#520
shox | 
Turkey SiegHe1l 
wow how did u sexpose me mens))
2019-07-08 17:26
I don't know, maybe there was some kind of a negative aura coming from your letters :/
2019-07-08 17:34
#447
PTC | 
France Valadvan 
+1
2019-07-08 07:07
God ptc
2019-07-08 15:31
#503
PTC | 
France Valadvan 
Zywoo>PTC>Simple
2019-07-08 15:58
vsm > aII
2019-07-08 17:18
#517
PTC | 
France Valadvan 
Of course, my Bad
2019-07-08 17:19
almost won 1v9
2019-07-07 21:53
#5
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Ukraine McSwell 
After apparent 3-1 loss and that infamous crowd clutch on dust2? It's a disrespect to CS at all.
2019-07-07 21:53
Noob
2019-07-07 21:54
#52
Turkey HuCa 
No after carrying his fucking team til the final
2019-07-07 21:54
#57
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Germany sloth02 
Natus s1mplere fan lul
2019-07-07 21:54
I would call them electrus S1mplere
2019-07-07 21:55
Not at this tournament though
2019-07-07 21:59
s1mplus electronicere*
2019-07-07 21:58
#149
arT | 
Brazil Maujubudo 
+1
2019-07-07 22:02
unexpected from simple vincere fan
2019-07-07 21:55
2nd place team mvps arent that uncommon though. simple has received them aswell multiple times. and zywoo certainly deserved that one.
2019-07-07 21:55
ua flag, navi flair. And you saying something about mvp after loss in the final? lul
2019-07-07 21:56
ele who?
2019-07-07 21:59
electronic i guess? t3 player from t3 ruski team. what did i win?
2019-07-07 22:14
#230
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Russia i_love_nbk 
Can you make me 2 tacos with some nachos please? Don’t forget about a big cola
2019-07-07 22:20
your credit card was declined. Insufficient funds
2019-07-08 17:14
#553
neaLaN | 
France swag0 
lol
2019-07-23 01:03
#234
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Spain N0Love 
Financial help from your government for retarded people
2019-07-07 22:21
then he will finally get some money :))))))))) Good job mens)))))))))))
2019-07-07 22:25
but why my goverment should help ruski? oO what a nonsense mens
2019-07-08 16:02
elem who?
2019-07-08 11:11
your quiz is getting worse every time. you need to try out something fresh
2019-07-08 17:13
eleme who?
2019-07-08 17:33
#217
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Russia i_love_nbk 
NaVi fan lul
2019-07-07 22:17
s1mple's mvp at starseries s4 is a disrespect to CS as well lul, crowd was ghosting harder than anywhere else
2019-07-08 11:58
#6
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India C0|d 
God
2019-07-07 21:53
#8
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Argentina Chief02 
deserved
2019-07-07 21:53
#9
ropz | 
Europe SadPuppet 
deserved
2019-07-07 21:53
1x zywOo is equal to 2x s1mple and its scientifically proven! what a legend!
2019-07-07 21:53
#102
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Ukraine McSwell 
1x zywoo is equal to 0.5x s1mple when he was like 18-19 y.o.
2019-07-07 21:58
#236
oBo | 
United States 1nsaneMe 
+1
2019-07-07 22:22
-1
2019-07-07 23:44
-1
2019-07-08 00:17
#361
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Russia r4jkkYNWA 
+1
2019-07-08 00:28
retard
2019-07-08 17:54
#554
OCEAN | 
Iceland Valzao 
+1
2019-07-23 17:02
#468
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Estonia ropz_bestest 
Yes 2 s1mples could fit in 1 zywoo On a serious note zywoo best player in the world right now
2019-07-08 10:00
#488
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Denmark EyesWallow 
haha
2019-07-08 12:09
#495
s1mple | 
Germany NatsuS 
Hahaha noob
2019-07-08 13:06
On the way to become top 3 easily
2019-07-07 21:53
#63
Turkey HuCa 
I think he is already top 3 with Ellige and S1mple
2019-07-07 21:55
#98
Aerial | 
Finland JAarnio 
He already is top 1
2019-07-07 21:58
+1
2019-07-07 22:00
deserved, god
2019-07-07 21:53
#14
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Netherlands PasscaLl 
Lol
2019-07-07 21:53
Top 1 2019
2019-07-07 21:53
#75
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United States malarm 
+1
2019-07-07 21:56
#456
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India n1lotpal 
Nice name baby boi!
2019-07-08 07:35
ez4thegod
2019-07-07 21:53
cry liquid fans
2019-07-07 21:53
There is no reason to cry actually, liquid won grand slam, a lot of t1 events, and they are the best team
2019-07-07 22:00
vitality rekt them at cs summit, cry is free, they got lucky tonight, they have money every round in everymap while vitality play eco
2019-07-07 22:01
0/8
2019-07-07 22:10
#289
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United States Noahack88 
0/8
2019-07-07 22:49
#342
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Iceland ashyra 
Bruh...Vitality was the only team at Summit sweating to win it. Liquid dominated Vitality here when it mattered. If Vitality were on eco and not on rifles for the majority of the series, then don’t you think it’s their fault and not some sort of luck from Liquid? What a delusional Dutchman you are...
2019-07-07 23:47
cry is free, vitality eco, team liquid always 10k per player ofc they win they play against player who had no armour, no real gun, aug and awp vs galil
2019-07-08 19:25
He said "liquid fans", not "liquid team".
2019-07-07 22:03
but for real fans who got the MVP doesnt matter, they think only about winnings
2019-07-07 22:11
So you like robbery? Expected from a dutchie
2019-07-07 22:09
#18
NEO | 
Europe fahadinho 
fuck this frog
2019-07-07 21:53
#64
shox | 
Turkey SiegHe1l 
cry is free
2019-07-07 21:55
XD
2019-07-07 21:55
+5 tbh
2019-07-07 21:57
#132
Boo | 
France mbl4 
how much ?
2019-07-07 22:00
LUL
2019-07-07 22:13
xD
2019-07-07 22:14
+1
2019-07-07 22:23
#19
flusha | 
United States k3ar 
Oh no, the depressing MVP picture just like Twistzz and s1mple.
2019-07-07 21:53
#147
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Albania JonZherka 
s1mple twice xd
2019-07-07 22:02
#333
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France MaximusGDN 
Yeah that's so sad actually. I can't imagine the feeling, after you lose a big final some guy from hltv comes to you like "Hey congrats for your MVP award, let's take a picture ! :D" And you're just like "Man, I just lost. Leave me alone"
2019-07-07 23:38
ZywOo needs better teammates, and so does kennyS. Feel sad for these two talents
2019-07-08 23:49
#20
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Italy g1ppo 
ez for godwOo
2019-07-07 21:53
#21
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Slovakia SamuelS 
Deserved!
2019-07-07 21:53
#23
erkaSt | 
Mongolia 6ICKO 
deserved
2019-07-07 21:54
#24
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Brazil mewhoo 
expected
2019-07-07 21:54
elige????????
2019-07-07 21:54
You probably only watch the final
2019-07-07 21:57
no
2019-07-07 21:58
How could you think Elige deserves it more then?
2019-07-07 22:00
he was just better, he had more important frags
2019-07-07 22:05
"he was just better" lmao
2019-07-07 22:06
flair checks out
2019-07-07 22:29
So i'm biaised and the guy called "zywoo_overrrated" isn't
2019-07-07 22:37
#332
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Norway daniel98 
"No" - Fan logic
2019-07-07 23:37
Zywoo has way more impact
2019-07-07 22:38
#254
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France Vipair 
nice name .................... not
2019-07-07 22:28
Deserved, I bow before you the God of counter strike, even Noah's Ark wouldn't be able to carry this Vitality team.
2019-07-07 21:54
#27
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Russia klepan 
Deserved
2019-07-07 21:54
ez
2019-07-07 21:54
#29
s1mple | 
India S1ayR 
GOD already
2019-07-07 21:54
et oui Zyzy !!!!
2019-07-07 21:54
ahaha
2019-07-07 21:54
#32
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Denmark Ritsuryo 
WTF?
2019-07-07 21:54
MVPs are soover-rated.
2019-07-07 21:54
Literally the French s1mple
2019-07-07 21:54
More like the ukrainian zywoo is far from his 2018 level this year so far
2019-07-08 03:12
not true. s1mple still holds the highest LAN and Big Events rating in 2019.
2019-07-08 03:27
Deserved
2019-07-07 21:54
#36
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Sweden NexuseryMs 
REAL 1v9 not like p1mple
2019-07-07 21:54
Deserved
2019-07-07 21:54
#38
shox | 
Turkey SiegHe1l 
lul weeb twistzz
2019-07-07 21:54
#39
 | 
United States Trump2020KAG 
BS
2019-07-07 21:54
Nice
2019-07-07 21:54
#41
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Turkey CHAMPTZ 
HAHAHAHA
2019-07-07 21:54
#42
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Italy Enrico_Fermi 
ELIGE SHOULD WIN IT; STUPID DECISION
2019-07-07 21:54
#448
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Denmark AtomAlf 
what do you meen "stupid decision"? Its a numbers award - The one with the best rating wins. No decision was made....
2019-07-08 07:15
#496
s1mple | 
Germany NatsuS 
That isn't right last year only S1mple got two. Mvp where he didn't win but he needed a +rating over 0.15 then the best player of the other team. It isn't about numbers. Otherwise S1mple got every mvp
2019-07-08 13:09
He deserved that
2019-07-07 21:54
#44
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Poland GoldNess_ 
Pog
2019-07-07 21:54
#46
NiKo | 
Israel soez4niko 
The goat
2019-07-07 21:54
#47
ZywOo | 
Brazil tskvsky 
zywhoo?? well deserved man, you're a beast
2019-07-07 21:54
#48
 | 
United States Raptorial 
FACEIT MAJOR: electronic: 1.36 s1mple: 1.34 device: 1.26 Astralis wins Device MVP ESL ONE COLOGNE 2019 ZywOo: 1.33 Elige: 1.25 Liquid wins Zywoo MVP??? robbed
2019-07-07 21:54
+1
2019-07-07 21:56
+1
2019-07-07 21:57
#91
RUSH | 
Spain Gronk22 
Yes. Electronic was robbed.
2019-07-07 21:57
+1
2019-07-07 22:22
#97
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Poland Lukovsky 
it's just one man deciding the mvp's that's why hltv's awards will always be amateur or non-official awards
2019-07-07 21:58
Who?
2019-07-07 22:57
#330
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Poland Lukovsky 
tgwris or however you write his name
2019-07-07 23:34
#434
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Germany AceTonic 
Mvp = most valuable player... vitality without zywoo wouldnt get into finals.. liquid without elige or twistzz would get into finals
2019-07-08 04:46
#454
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Poland Lukovsky 
that's not what mvp mean dude
2019-07-08 07:31
#103
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France 0racle 
No electronic was robbed
2019-07-07 21:58
+1 These HLTV awards are a joke.
2019-07-07 22:00
Electronic was robbed indeed
2019-07-07 22:01
#142
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United States Raptorial 
it could go either way, HLTV has to be consistent tho thats the thing....
2019-07-07 22:01
Yeah i agree, electronic or S1mple should have had it
2019-07-07 22:04
zywoo did do well in the final loss to liquid, while s1mple and electronic didn't vs Astralis
2019-07-07 22:01
#146
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United States Raptorial 
zywoo had 2 maps where he went below 1.0 against liquid in the final??
2019-07-07 22:02
overall in the entire series ofc, zywoo was the only player on vitality that was good in the final
2019-07-07 22:02
#165
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United States Raptorial 
FACEIT MAJOR FINAL: electronic 1.06 COLOGNE 2019: ZywOo: 1.10. .04 difference....
2019-07-07 22:05
Harder to maintain a high rating in a bo5 in 4 maps in which you lose three of them than just two. Zywoo delivered the full deal as s1mple normally does when he gets the mvp by performing better than anyone else in every stage of the tournament. Another reason may have been that elige wasn't the stand out best player in the event and final like he was the last two times. Again it was a close race as article says but zywoo barely edged out
2019-07-07 22:08
+1
2019-07-07 22:03
FACEIT MAJOR: electronic: 1.36 his best teammate : 1.34 (-0.02) ESL ONE COLOGNE 2019 ZywOo: 1.33 His best teammate : 0.99 (-0.34) ZywOo got it not only because he had a great rating and finished 2nd but because he carried Vitality so much to the 2nd place.
2019-07-07 22:09
#309
abdul | 
Europe men) 
wtf men that's insane nbk : zywoo go kill all team is bait
2019-07-07 23:13
#384
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Denmark fogxz 
Device got 1.35 Rating if you count the Challengers Stage/Main Qualifer with
2019-07-08 01:41
#389
 | 
United States Raptorial 
its not counted m8
2019-07-08 02:19
+1
2019-07-08 04:26
deserved my boi
2019-07-07 21:54
#50
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Poland Aloes 
should be EliGE
2019-07-07 21:54
+1
2019-07-07 21:56
No it shouldn't
2019-07-07 22:01
#435
 | 
Germany AceTonic 
Were u at cologne? Saw your sign multiple times i guess?
2019-07-08 04:47
+1
2019-07-07 22:06
#243
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Turkey Fugiart 
+1
2019-07-07 22:23
#259
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France Soonz 
-1
2019-07-07 22:31
ELIGE GOT ROBBED
2019-07-07 21:54
Yeah, don't understand why Zywoo
2019-07-07 22:35
expected
2019-07-07 21:54
Wasted
2019-07-07 21:54
#55
Zeus | 
Other Chuckeee 
Amazing skilled player.
2019-07-07 21:54
#56
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Bulgaria zikinu 
undeserved. Played really badly in finals.
2019-07-07 21:54
#129
woxic | 
Turkey cemc_ 
lmao
2019-07-07 22:00
#143
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Bulgaria zikinu 
Look at his stats little one.
2019-07-07 22:01
#337
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Norway daniel98 
Yes, maybe you should look at his stats and not just the rating? 87 kills, best on Liquid got 90, so with that logic everyone on liquid played bad in the final?
2019-07-07 23:42
#510
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Bulgaria zikinu 
What I was saying is that in the last two maps he was really, really bad.
2019-07-08 16:58
#511
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Norway daniel98 
Last 2? On inferno he got 26-18
2019-07-08 17:00
#58
 | 
Canada Gumpypoo 
should have been twistzzz but whatever
2019-07-07 21:54
#144
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Austria gex0r 
flag checks out
2019-07-07 22:01
#163
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Canada Gumpypoo 
thats a good one eh
2019-07-07 22:05
MONSTER
2019-07-07 21:55
Zywoo haters salty asfuck right now lmao
2019-07-07 21:55
#65
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Nepal ramann 
ELIGE GOT ROBBEDDDDDDDDDDDDDd
2019-07-07 21:55
#67
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United States DervGuy 
Expected tbh, what an absolute BEAST.
2019-07-07 21:55
Ez ez
2019-07-07 21:55
#72
 | 
United States @FyreCS 
Twistzz or Elige should’ve won... Twistzz was in god form holy
2019-07-07 21:56
#95
 | 
Austria TheClemi 
Yeah but twistzz only in the final and Elige also wasn't rated as high as Zywoo in the entire Tournament
2019-07-07 21:57
#110
EliGE | 
United States mehrfth 
Zywoo had two poor maps in the finals, and EliGE won the event. EliGE was the most valuable, not Zywoo
2019-07-07 21:58
#156
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Austria TheClemi 
Look at the stats bro...hltv.org/stats?event=4281
2019-07-07 22:03
The MVP is for the tournament not the final
2019-07-07 22:03
#197
EliGE | 
United States mehrfth 
if you disappear in the final it doesnt matter. you can shit on the groupstage teams all you want, if you dont show up when it counts than you dont deserve it imo
2019-07-07 22:12
He didn't disepear at all in the final, he was the only one hard carrying, they had an incredibly difficult run to get to the final, so saying he farmed against "groupstage teams" is absolutly ridiculous.
2019-07-07 22:14
#302
fer | 
Brazil _Awper 
but he did show up
2019-07-07 23:05
#366
EliGE | 
United States mehrfth 
0.68 on first map 0.93 on last
2019-07-08 00:52
#368
fer | 
Brazil _Awper 
How old are you? Jesus, i was expecting more from America.
2019-07-08 00:57
#369
EliGE | 
United States mehrfth 
I mean I just hold the opinion that the MVP of the tournament should probably win the tournament. USTILO has a crazy high rating when he stood in for FaZe, but they lost the event. It just seems like winning should be a prerequisite.
2019-07-08 00:58
#371
fer | 
Brazil _Awper 
winning should be an factor, but not the only one, zywoo was by far the best player for all the tournament, playing with worse players and also more matches, meaning higher difficult to stay with high rating.
2019-07-08 01:02
#373
EliGE | 
United States mehrfth 
I understand that, and I agree he played really well during the event. But he lost. It doesn’t really matter how well he played because he lost.
2019-07-08 01:03
#374
fer | 
Brazil _Awper 
mvp is for the best player right?! If so, zywoo is the one that deserves.
2019-07-08 01:05
#375
EliGE | 
United States mehrfth 
Not best, most valuable. Liquid won the event, so I’d argue that EliGE’s impact was more valuable, seeing as it led to them winning. Zywoo, while playing great, did not win, so he was less valuable. That’s just how I see.
2019-07-08 01:07
#376
fer | 
Brazil _Awper 
Could liquid still win without elige?! Probably, but i dont see Vitality getting in the playoffs without Zywoo.
2019-07-08 01:09
#378
EliGE | 
United States mehrfth 
Fair enough, I still feel like the MVP has to win the event, but I understand your point of view as well.
2019-07-08 01:11
#391
allu | 
Indonesia KAKKIKU 
You new here?
2019-07-08 03:06
#392
EliGE | 
United States mehrfth 
Account is older than yours bud.
2019-07-08 03:07
#393
allu | 
Indonesia KAKKIKU 
I think you ve been living under the cave then
2019-07-08 03:09
#394
EliGE | 
United States mehrfth 
Under the cave? Like in a second cave below the aforementioned cave or just in the stone?
2019-07-08 03:10
#395
allu | 
Indonesia KAKKIKU 
I dont think you follow cs scene bruh
2019-07-08 03:11
#396
EliGE | 
United States mehrfth 
I've watched nearly every CS tournament since about 2013 bro
2019-07-08 03:12
#398
allu | 
Indonesia KAKKIKU 
Then you must know that s1mple won mvps by losing right
2019-07-08 03:13
#400
EliGE | 
United States mehrfth 
Yeah, and I disagree with that. Device has also won MVP's when he wasn't the highest rated player, but he won because his team won the event. HLTV is fairly inconsistent with the way the MVP system works, and it seems like they give it to whoever has the most highlight worthy plays so that their MVP fragmovie can be cooler. Like I stated above, winning the event should be a prerequisite to winning the MVP.
2019-07-08 03:15
#402
allu | 
Indonesia KAKKIKU 
I dont think i ever see your complain on s1mple lol. And Zywoo has +132 kd this tournament, like everybody said this is an mvp. Most valuable player, not mvp who win, hell if zywoo wasn't in vitality i don't think they would go to the playoff, considering how nbk and alex played
2019-07-08 03:18
#403
EliGE | 
United States mehrfth 
Yeah I didn't bring up s1mple because we were talking about zywoo? I understand zywoo had a great event, but his team lost, so he wasn't the most valuable player. The most valuable player is the best player on the team that wins. You can play as good as you'd like, but if you lose the tournament than that performance literally doesn't matter.
2019-07-08 03:20
#413
allu | 
Indonesia KAKKIKU 
Since i cant press reply on your last comment, im gonna put it here. Take it this way, mvp is the most valuable player. Most valueable = best, if you are the best player but your team doesn't show up, doesn't mean you aren't the best player in the tournament does it? Zywoo is the best player on the tournament, but he can't win against the best team in the world by himself. If you see the stream, only rpk and zywoo showed up in that final.
2019-07-08 03:43
Twistzz is not in the top 10 highest rated players of Cologne. Use your brain please
2019-07-07 22:02
#547
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United States @FyreCS 
Mad that Twistzz is bestest men)))
2019-07-09 17:10
ZywOo has more MVPs already nt
2019-07-09 17:11
#549
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United States @FyreCS 
Zywho?
2019-07-09 17:17
Cringe
2019-07-09 17:21
#551
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United States @FyreCS 
What? Who is this ZyWho?
2019-07-10 15:25
#79
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Poland Lukovsky 
not deserved, Elige got robbed not showing in the most important match and still gets mvp lmao
2019-07-07 21:56
#80
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Turkey Thunderball 
amazing player he was awesome during whole tourney but elige was robbed for me..
2019-07-07 21:57
deserved
2019-07-07 21:57
#317
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Finland JHdash77 
everything checks out
2019-07-07 23:17
deserved!
2019-07-07 21:57
Bullshit. Vitality wasn't even close to winning the event. This isn't a case of where s1mple tries to do all his best but his team fails him. When s1mplw got the mvps they were close to winning but this is nothing. They fluked 1 map and it almost went 3-0 to tl.
2019-07-07 21:57
#84
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Brazil hugoooo 
Deserved... no matter if his team loses or not, he's always a fucking beast. Incredible how things changed in 2019... Suddenly, ZywOo became '2018 s1mple'. Suddenly, Liquid became '2018 Astralis'.
2019-07-07 21:57
Woooow, no doubt
2019-07-07 21:57
Fat ugly fuck undeserved
2019-07-07 21:57
Ence didn’t even make playoffs HAHAHHAHAH
2019-07-07 21:59
#131
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Bulgaria Amerikana 
+1
2019-07-07 22:00
#266
kennyS | 
France saodo 
Ence fucking noob #31 hltv
2019-07-07 22:36
#453
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Canada StanleyLy 
HOW MUCH
2019-07-08 07:28
#89
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Germany ToiletShitter 
and a big fat L stop giving mvps to losers
2019-07-07 21:57
#93
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Austria El_Chap0 
deserved
2019-07-07 21:57
cheater
2019-07-07 21:58
cheat on lan ?? HAHAHA
2019-07-07 22:15
#222
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Turkey MusTRelax 
Word.exe Kappa
2019-07-07 22:19
After f0rsaken drama u can
2019-07-07 22:20
you can't cheat in these top-level tournaments
2019-07-07 22:25
#268
Zero | 
Slovakia t4gg3d 
name checks out
2019-07-07 22:37
#298
hommii | 
Iceland ban1c 
+1 Must be f0rsaken alt
2019-07-07 23:01
#304
Zero | 
Slovakia t4gg3d 
+1
2019-07-07 23:06
0/8 ofcourse u can
2019-07-07 22:38
nah you cant
2019-07-07 22:39
#100
EliGE | 
United States mehrfth 
Should be EliGE, he showed up in the important matches and actually won the event.
2019-07-07 21:58
Deserved what a great player
2019-07-07 21:58
DESERVED BUT WHO CARE?? THEY GOT BEST TOURNAMENT AND 1MILLION$ IGS
2019-07-07 21:58
#111
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Italy marxie 
My boy twistzz just got robbed ffs, really hoped he will get this one
2019-07-07 21:58
He isn't even in the top 10 highest rated of this event are you fucking trolling rn?
2019-07-07 22:00
#168
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Italy marxie 
Just because there are some players that went home early. Twistzz was the mvp in the final for sure. When it comes to the whole tournament is between him and elige. But there is no way that zywoo got this one, he is for sure a great player but this is just taking away credit from the insane players over at liquid.
2019-07-07 22:05
You gotta be trolling me
2019-07-07 22:07
#195
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Italy marxie 
Why? Its one thing having simple being above anyone else in every single game and giving him the mvp even if they lose. Its another thing giving it to a guy who lost but wasnt even that much better compared to the other players in the server
2019-07-07 22:11
But ZywOo was above everyone else the whole tournament, the stats proves it.
2019-07-07 22:16
#220
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Italy marxie 
Yeah lets give the mvp to the highest rated player now lmao. Ofc hes gonna be the highest rated player since he is an insane player in a team of average players and everything is set up for him to shine. Thats not the reason someone should get the mvp award.
2019-07-07 22:18
He got the mvp award because he was the most valuable player of ESL ONE Cologne 2019, now get over it and stop crying
2019-07-07 22:19
True
2019-07-07 22:26
+1 also this argument of "everything being set up for him" sounds like a broken record repeated by scrubs who don't even understand what "setting up" means or how it works.
2019-07-07 22:37
The smell of Zywoo's fanboy :sick:
2019-07-07 23:02
He came closer to defeat Liquid and he didn't have an electronic by his side. The true top 1
2019-07-07 21:58
#115
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France 0racle 
2019 and people still dont understand it is much easier to have good ratings if your team is winning
2019-07-07 21:58
#118
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United States kobraky95 
Top1 2019
2019-07-07 21:59
#120
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France Uexo 
deserved
2019-07-07 21:59
Wtf, Twistzz was godlike, winning clutchs, deacos, etc. Undeserved choker Zywho
2019-07-07 21:59
Same as zywoo, two 1v3s 1v2 alot of quad kils this match
2019-07-07 22:01
If it's the same then a player from winning team gets MVP.
2019-07-07 22:07
+1
2019-07-07 23:31
#127
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Colombia HachitaVidal 
Who?
2019-07-07 22:00
#128
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Israel QtaP 
S1mple number one
2019-07-07 22:00
mvp my ass. maybe it made sense for simple before because he had 100 kills and some other noobs had like 60 70. but now when they have the same number and vitality lost, he still gets it. kek
2019-07-07 22:01
-1
2019-07-07 22:08
#148
arT | 
Brazil PQD28 
Elige robbed LULW
2019-07-07 22:02
#227
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Romania kr1tex 
Elige didn't deserve it lul wtf
2019-07-07 22:19
0.08 difference in stats only. That's not a big enough gap to hand over an MVP to a player on a losing team lol
2019-07-08 03:32
#415
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Romania kr1tex 
It's not big when we talk about 0.98 and 1.06 but when we talk about numbers like 1.33 it's something else it's harder to get to this score and every point is important. An honesty 0.08 is not that small at all imagine if it was just 0.02 points bigger it would have been 0.1 and that's a really big gap
2019-07-08 03:54
I know you shouldn't look at just stats when you decide MVP but you also have to consider that when s1mple won his MVPs while losing, he was a whole 0.14 and 0.15 ahead of the best player on the winning team. THOSE are "really big" gaps.
2019-07-08 03:56
#417
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Romania kr1tex 
Ok so every losing MVP has to be 0.14 ahead of the guy on the wining team now, cuz simple did this.
2019-07-08 04:01
big is a relative term. In this case, you are comparing stats of players who lost but still received an MVP. Therefore, relative to the stats of players who have won MVPs but lost before (s1mple, twistzz, flamie, ISSAA), 0.08 is not a "big" gap. Again, not saying stats alone decide MVPs, but you are delusional to say 0.08 is a big gap when s1mple's and twistzz's gaps when they won theirs was 0.14+.
2019-07-08 04:03
#422
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Romania kr1tex 
I don't care what happened before, imo the MVP is well deserved and it should always be given to the best player, no matter who won. The system progressed and I like it. Giving the MVP to a guy just cuz his team won is fucking stupid and yes dev1ce didn't deserve that one. That's my opinion u can have yours but u ain't gonna change mine, I think Mathieu earned his MVP.
2019-07-08 04:17
You don't understand that I'm not arguing that zywoo doesn't deserve it, do you? I'm legit just putting your claim in a bigger context. There is a reason why ppl don't think this 0.08 gap is "big enough" and to be fair, they have a point when you look at past cases.
2019-07-08 04:27
#429
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Romania kr1tex 
People don't think it's not a big enough gap, 80% of the comments literally say "deserved" or something along these lines.u solve problems that don't exist my friend.
2019-07-08 04:31
Well, they are right if you look at it in a wider context. It's not a big enough gap. but I'm sure there are other factors that justified this decision.
2019-07-08 04:31
#152
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Russia SonixRush 
Well deserved
2019-07-07 22:02
Real MVP is Stewie2k mens
2019-07-07 22:05
Liquid robbed, lul. Ez for #2 of 2019.
2019-07-07 22:05
#229
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Romania kr1tex 
#1*
2019-07-07 22:20
s1mple #1, sorry.
2019-07-08 04:32
#433
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Romania kr1tex 
Not for too long my friend
2019-07-08 04:33
For 2 years in a row already more than enough...
2019-07-08 08:19
Ez for ZywOo
2019-07-07 22:06
Congratulations, ma'boy ZywOo, you deserved it. Now only you and s1mple are MVPs from tournaments without have won those.
2019-07-07 22:06
Nice alternative history you got there
2019-07-07 22:45
#175
gfi | 
United States DiabIo 
literally couldn't carry those french rejects hard enough
2019-07-07 22:06
#176
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France SUPERMEC 
hhahaha zywoo #1
2019-07-07 22:06
#177
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Russia Krityra 
Deserved
2019-07-07 22:07
well deserved
2019-07-07 22:07
#179
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Asia mocity123 
deserved
2019-07-07 22:07
Always monster , deserved ! Top 2 , 2019 for me. 1) s1mple 2) ZywOo 3) Twistzz 4) eLiGe 5) probably dev1ce
2019-07-07 22:08
Twistzz is so fucking overrated hltv.org/stats/players?startDate=2019-01.. How is this anywhere near top 3
2019-07-07 22:50
yea i think elige is definitely more impactful so far this year
2019-07-07 23:32
Deserved Zygod
2019-07-07 22:10
Lmao fuck hltv ranking after this. I’ll use ESL ranking from this point on
2019-07-07 22:10
So fucking good
2019-07-07 22:10
w e l l d e s e r v e d !
2019-07-07 22:10
idk how its deserved hes pure trash guys cmon.... even zeus is better than him??
2019-07-07 22:12
-8/8
2019-07-07 22:55
Oh well, it's what s1mple had to go through all over again... HLTV really should start restricting MVP's to the event champions, like the game itself already does for every round; this is just an insult to everyone involved. You want your MVP award after claiming both the event trophy and the Intel Grand Slam? Nope, no MVP for you. And you there, take this MVP award and pose for a photo! Never mind that you just lost the final and don't really care about a meaningless piece of metal thrown your way. This is just dumb.
2019-07-07 22:12
#343
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Poland rude_wredne 
In-game mvp's are ass. A player can get crucial triple kill and save the game but his team mate will defuse bomb and he will get mvp for the round. I'm not a fan of zywo but he literally carries vitality every match. If you are focusing only on end results then yea, giving him mvp doesn't make any sense. If you actually watch the games and see how much input he has then he definetly deserves the mvp.
2019-07-07 23:49
I agree the in-game MVP system isn't perfect - it follows a predetermined set of rules after all. The defusing CT only gets the MVP if he also gets at least one frag; otherwise the highest fragging teammate "contributed the most," per the predetermined rules. This sometimes makes sense, but if someone pulled off a heroic ninja defuse without fragging anyone, then certainly the automatic MVP awarding will be flawed. But, all of that said, one thing it will never ever do is to award a round MVP to the losing side. That's why I used it as an example, because what HLTV has been doing is precisely that. I have no doubt ZywOo did a fantastic job carrying his team (and yes I watched it too); but it is my belief that the "value" of the "Most Valuable Player" should serve the purpose of winning the tournament for the team, not just posting stats that don't lead the team anywhere at the end of the day. See what I wrote in #310 for more on this point.
2019-07-08 00:09
#202
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Palestine zwe 
Deserved.
2019-07-07 22:13
#208
ceh9 | 
World mukas17 
This is fucking bullshit. Giving MVP to the losing team should be an extreme case. s1mple might have deserved some of the ones he got where he lost with a +50 kda but zywoo is nowhere near that level...
2019-07-07 22:15
It's for the whole tournament, not just the finals.
2019-07-07 22:18
#290
ceh9 | 
World mukas17 
So they literally just take the highest rated player? Surely winning the tournament should have some impact on which player is the most valuable.
2019-07-07 22:49
but s1mple was actually like 0.1+ higher than the rest in stats
2019-07-08 03:29
#210
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France Kevin1148_FR 
Well deserved
2019-07-07 22:15
A bit early - or shit it?
2019-07-07 22:16
Well deserved, I hope he can continue to play this well like s1mple does!
2019-07-07 22:16
#213
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Turkey Fugiart 
elige ???? twistzz ???
2019-07-07 22:16
#214
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Macau iaokachon 
1.33 fucking god
2019-07-07 22:16
100% deserved
2019-07-07 22:17
#218
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United States SPLiFF666 
His 3rd MVP in a rookie year? 2 MVPs in a rookie year was the previous record held by him, now he beat his own record
2019-07-07 22:18
NICE
2019-07-07 22:19
Murican fan of Vitality wtf ?
2019-07-07 22:19
#552
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United States SPLiFF666 
why does it matter where im from ? I enjoy good CS and Zywoo has been playing some insane CS. I dont haave a "favorite team" I just enjoy watching pro CS. period.
2019-07-11 02:25
#221
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Romania kr1tex 
Deserved
2019-07-07 22:18
#226
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France StickyRice 
People complaining about ZywOo winning MVP should just learn to read : MVP means most valuable player, yeah indeed ZywOo was the MVP, otherwise Vitality probably wouldn't have been in the final, and definitely wouldn't have won D2 vs Liquid. Liquid had multiple super strong players, but not a single one carried enough to be the "most valuable player" for his team in the tourney.
2019-07-07 22:19
And HLTV should think again about what a "Most Valuable Player" really should be. The "value" should serve a purpose: to win the tournament. In fact that's exactly how an MVP is determined for each individual round: the person who contributes the most to the round win, from the winning team, gets the round MVP. Stripping the concept of MVP from the greater goal of "helping the team lift the trophy" just reduces it to a pure number-crunching exercise, and can produce laughable results such as today's, as well as s1mple's multiple 2nd-place MVP's in the past. Also, saying that Liquid didn't have "a single player [who] carried enough" is missing the point. The better question is: look at how hard ZywOo was carrying his team. Was it enough? It's a team game, and the MVP is supposed to emerge from the victors who contributed the most toward the victory, not somebody else who carried a losing team hard and got shiny stats as a result.
2019-07-07 23:13
#316
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France StickyRice 
MVPs aren't that important and shouldn't necessarly be named as it's obviously a team game. Liquid had at least 3 very good players on every game, on the other hand Vitality is like a new NaVi (except that NaVi weaker players zeus and Edward are (were as Edward has left) weaker than Vitality weaker players, but they have electronic as a second carry). Agree that a Liquid player definitely could have had the MVP but hey they got a million $ and super cool gold bars so :)
2019-07-07 23:16
#235
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Europe trey_ 
beast
2019-07-07 22:22
next simple !! lol ... lmfao ....xD not deserved ... the best tournament for TwistzZ and not getting a mvp or even elige ...no words to say
2019-07-07 22:22
Same like s1mple last year. But this time I hope the team wins when he gets mvp!
2019-07-07 22:23
#241
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Poland Julka 
Deserved
2019-07-07 22:23
#244
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United States YANGGANG2020 
STOLEN FROM ELIGE
2019-07-07 22:23
Twistzz deserve more tbh
2019-07-07 22:24
#252
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Indonesia RaMzz412 
Fat ppl =CSGOD
2019-07-07 22:26
what a steal. twistz sould take it
2019-07-07 22:27
Well deserved ZywoO. You’re The Main Man. On freakin’ fire.
2019-07-07 22:29
He's s1mply the best
2019-07-07 22:29
where are u woxic
2019-07-07 22:29
The sad part is.....they don't even consider calling the guy on stage to give that title. Its like the runner's up are kidnapped after match or something. I mean I watched him destroy during the whole tournament. At least he deserves that.
2019-07-07 22:32
yeah they didn't even give an interview to the losers it's not cool.
2019-07-07 23:12
top1 2019
2019-07-07 22:35
Deserved zywoo god
2019-07-07 22:36
#267
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Hungary raffai 
Lol?
2019-07-07 22:36
ie user?
2019-07-07 22:37
#355
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Hungary raffai 
Retarded?
2019-07-08 00:11
#269
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Poland GamBitF4N 
YESSSSS DESERVED OF COURSE ZYWOOOOO
2019-07-07 22:37
1.1 rating? c'mon... fucking stolen MVP 89-57 (55 hs!) 1.31 twistzz or at least NAF should have got it...but nah...rather pity pour french guys...
2019-07-07 22:37
» "ZYWOO CLAIMS ESL ONE COLOGNE MVP AWARD" » Only considering the rating at the final... 30IQ murica
2019-07-07 22:38
the whole tournament he was smurfing against washed up teams NT
2019-07-07 22:48
cus liquid played the best teams right? xD
2019-07-07 23:01
yeah sure, and Liquid played against better teams ? lmao
2019-07-08 12:57
NAF ? lmfao
2019-07-07 22:38
best rating in the final in a bo5, yes? you mad?
2019-07-07 23:20
He wasnt even the third best player in Liquid this tournament with the impact / rating . also zywoo had 1.33 rating are u stupid ? nitr0 / elige / twistzz all had better chancfes to win the mvp
2019-07-07 23:46
ok fair enough, your point is legit, zywoo is the only who could have got it, and he carried like simple did many times. I understand somewhat why he got it in the end...
2019-07-08 19:14
You can't be the MVP by playing greatly just one series, even though it was the final.
2019-07-07 23:49
All this bots saying zywoo play bad
2019-07-07 22:42
the best young player we have seen, nothing but respect
2019-07-07 22:45
#283
cR4zY | 
Myanmar xdcc 
the only player with above 1.00 rating on the team in the event
2019-07-07 22:50
what ? Ok he had really impressive stats but still it should ve gone to the winners twistz and elige both played insane
2019-07-07 22:47
xaxaxxaa farming stats against washed up teams and cant smurf against luckquid XAXAXAXA
2019-07-07 22:48
Yes !!! It s true
2019-07-07 22:59
#287
hommii | 
Iceland ban1c 
2.05 RATING VS NRG ON OVERPASS P0MPLE W H O ??
2019-07-07 22:48
#291
shox | 
Slovakia TreeMan 
not Simple? OF COURSE NOT! lmao well deserved for playmaker (not baiter) Zywoo
2019-07-07 22:51
#303
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Spain elskio 
+1
2019-07-07 23:06
Pro Aimlock
2019-07-07 22:59
He deserve a big mac
2019-07-07 23:02
Twistzz and elige absolutely robbed
2019-07-07 23:03
#305
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United Kingdom brendanpls 
Lmao he looks so pissed off
2019-07-07 23:06
Deserved as fuck
2019-07-07 23:07
#307
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France Meerkat_ 
Deserved 100%
2019-07-07 23:12
Still fking lost lol
2019-07-07 23:14
Zywoo kenny shox jackz amanek A single french superteam with no ego issues and players who can carry each other like shox kenny and zywoo ... Plus double awp issue resolved .. Apex and nbk found it difficult to even enter double digits in the whole series ... And this was the third time they were on main stage in cologne .. zywoo carried in cs summit and ecs both .. see his ratings before u call him a baiter . Give zywoo a chance to actually be the best ...
2019-07-07 23:15
#315
hommii | 
Iceland ban1c 
>Kenny >no ego issues Nt
2019-07-07 23:16
Also shox xD
2019-07-07 23:43
#313
hommii | 
Iceland ban1c 
ZYWOO ON THE AWP RPK LE TANK OPPONENT TYPES GG VITALITY NO. 1 RANK
2019-07-07 23:15
Well deserved!
2019-07-07 23:16
Elige deserved it imo
2019-07-07 23:22
Such a good player, absolutely deserved. TOP 2 player atm for sure, pity that he didn't win the title but it's a team game. Wish you good luck mr Zywoo
2019-07-07 23:22
#322
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Brazil ragemasterBR 
undeserved, Elige or Twistzz way better all the camp than Baguette fat virgin
2019-07-07 23:26
reported for gay comment
2019-07-07 23:30
#329
flusha | 
United States k3ar 
name checks out
2019-07-07 23:33
deserved even though his performance in some of the maps of the final weren't as great as they could have been
2019-07-07 23:30
It should've been EliGe
2019-07-07 23:31
Wtf elige deserves more
2019-07-07 23:37
#334
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United States stephcurry30 
hope he loses some weight so he could look more like an athlete since he may be one of the faces of csgo soon
2019-07-07 23:39
I hope you're losing sleep at night over the weight and physical appearance of a pro gamer
2019-07-08 00:09
#360
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United States stephcurry30 
no need for spite
2019-07-08 00:26
#452
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Canada StanleyLy 
Lmao first to judge when you’re prob some punk ass overweight American
2019-07-08 07:25
#464
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United States stephcurry30 
no need for spite
2019-07-08 08:39
#335
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Turkey nghtmr_71 
İ think twistz should be mvp
2019-07-07 23:41
ZywOo TOP1 ezpz
2019-07-07 23:41
I was expecting Elige to win this. Can't say it was underserved though.
2019-07-07 23:45
#345
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Estonia Nap0le0n 
Welcome to the WeLostButIHaveMVP club The participants: S1mple, Twistzz
2019-07-07 23:52
reminder to all retards who say "elige is robbed" hltv.org/news/24960/twistzz-earns-esl-on..
2019-07-07 23:54
Don't know what you're getting at, but you are strengthening their point even further. ESL One New York 2018: twistzz - 1.36 closest mouz player (sunny) - 1.16 a whopping 0.20 difference ESL One Cologne 2019: zywoo - 1.33 elige - 1.25 only a 0.08 difference; not even 0.1
2019-07-08 03:35
Look at the final 5 maps, he was insane in all but the last one, unlike zywoo who was good on two and unimportant on the other 2.
2019-07-08 05:31
#348
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Poland Kobel_ 
Deserved. People where complaining s1mple didn't get MVP despite being the highest rated player on the tournament far ahead the rest Next time something like that happened he got MVP (being in the losing team, previously only player from winning team was ever granted MVP) Now they're applying this rule to ZyWoo and people are suddenly complaining?
2019-07-07 23:55
Yeah but there was actually like a whole 0.1+ difference when s1mple won his MVPs zywoo wasn't THAT far ahead from elige ---- Starseries Season 4: s1mple - 1.32, best on winning team - 1.17 >> difference of 0.15 DH Masters Marseille: s1mple - 1.52, best on winning team - 1.38 >> difference of 0.14 ESL One New York 2018: twistzz - 1.36, best on winning team - 1.16 >> difference of 0.20 !!!! ESL One Cologne 2019: zywoo - 1.33, best of winning team - 1.25 >> difference of 0.08 ???????? not even a 0.1 difference Not saying zywoo doesn't "deserve" it, but I can totally see why some view it as an inconsistent choice.
2019-07-08 03:45
Do you understand the concept of a "Most Valuable Player" ? If you remove ZywOo from Vitality they probably lose in groups, if you remove Elige from Liquid they probably still win the tournament.
2019-07-08 04:07
Do you understand that I am trying to point out that there's been a history of denying higher rated players on the losing team the MVP award? Also, what you're saying is speculation. Yes, zywoo is a more important piece to Vitality than elige is to Liquid, but elige was carrying them in many matches as well. Liquid probably wouldn't have won without him.
2019-07-08 04:11
He was the most valuable player at this event, he won the MVP, well deserved. People complaining are just haters. You put any one of NAF, Elige, Twistzz in Vitality in place of ZywOo I bet they can't carry these BOTs that he has to carry. These guys in Liquid are playing knowing if they don't play up to their max level in a game it's okay because chances are someone else in the team will with how much firepower they have. ZywOo is playing with the weight of the world on his shoulders, he knows playing 10% below is level on any given map will result in a loss against top tier competition.
2019-07-08 04:26
The people "complaining" have a point. It may not be 100% correct, but there is some truth to it. This Pole above me is comparing this situation with s1mple's loser MVPs in spite of the fact that s1mple's cases have been far more clear cut than this.
2019-07-08 04:30
#353
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Ukraine leg0_0leg 
deserved af. na'vi need fix...
2019-07-08 00:07
ZYWHOO FAT BOT
2019-07-08 00:24
#359
shrek | 
Poland AntOOr 
Hard to tell if it's deserved, he was stunning but twistzz, elige and naf played really well too. Hard decision who was the best of them
2019-07-08 00:26
Deserved.
2019-07-08 00:28
deserved, best player rn
2019-07-08 00:35
+1 been a long time since player of this calibre emerge in cs scene.. dont mention s1mple pls
2019-07-08 01:10
s1mple
2019-07-08 04:11
+1
2019-07-08 23:45
Well very deserved. Please stop being so good that it affects your team mates in such a positive way. Okay?
2019-07-08 00:47
why does he have to be so fucking fat
2019-07-08 00:53
FAT = PRO dosia cerq boomich flamie (he's noob now coz lose weight)
2019-07-08 01:11
fat=ugly
2019-07-08 01:24
allu = bot allu
2019-07-08 01:25
toxic(
2019-07-08 01:56
#387
Xyp9x | 
Denmark Khronov 
What a neck
2019-07-08 02:07
Totaly underserved
2019-07-08 02:08
I disagree with MVP award given to losers but since s1mple started the train then well played zywoo.
2019-07-08 03:15
The award is called "Most Valuable Player" not "Best player in the winning team".
2019-07-08 04:30
In a competition the value come from winning, not losing. Whatever.
2019-07-08 12:34
s1mple didn't start the train, HLTV did it years before s1mple was even a top player.
2019-07-08 05:04
Who has been awarded MVP despite losing before him?
2019-07-08 12:35
Future Top 3 Ranking HLTV in 2019
2019-07-08 03:18
Deserved
2019-07-08 03:42
Well Played. Deserved the MVP. We all loved both the teams. Fook BLASTRALIS.
2019-07-08 03:46
mvp for loser?
2019-07-08 04:16
S1mple got 2 MVPs for 2018 when NaVi lost.
2019-07-08 05:42
I might change my flair cause this kid is insane.
2019-07-08 05:03
fan of simple says it all
2019-07-08 06:50
I mean I like insane players and also Na'vi is going in a direction I really hate they kicked Edward so I'm kind of disgusted with that org atm.
2019-07-09 04:14
but bombl4 >Edward
2019-07-09 05:18
bombl4 is not better than Edward, he plays like shit and has little to no impact almost every map, Zeus is better than him.
2019-07-09 06:47
i assume you don't follow pro scene that much, otherwise we wouldn't be having this conversation at all hltv.org/matches/2334621/liquid-vs-natus..
2019-07-09 07:09
deserved
2019-07-08 06:06
S T O P G I V I N G M V P T O L O S E R S anyone who disagrees have never played any sport or anything competitive so please don't bother responding. if anything, doing this is a slap in the face to all of the person's teammates.
2019-07-08 06:19
#450
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Canada StanleyLy 
Like you Play any sports keyboard warrior LEL
2019-07-08 07:23
this is one of the few comments that have ever made me physically cringe
2019-07-08 17:05
#531
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Canada StanleyLy 
Good maybe you can burn some extra calories
2019-07-08 20:40
False. Plenty of players in other sports win individual accolades like MVP awards without winning anything team wise.
2019-07-08 07:31
+1 Simply because the best player of a competition hasn't to be the winner of the competition in team sports
2019-07-08 11:13
#497
Maka | 
France Barburo 
Even in the last World Cup, the MVP was in the loser team !
2019-07-08 13:10
Ah yes, FIFA... the true role model for all other sports organizations 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
2019-07-08 17:07
#527
Maka | 
France Barburo 
" any sport or anything competitive " Picking the biggest event and still complain
2019-07-08 19:03
nice chins
2019-07-08 06:54
#445
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Canada C4K3 
1.87 vs. NRG, lul.
2019-07-08 06:58
#446
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Poland zJe 
overrated
2019-07-08 06:59
#449
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Canada StanleyLy 
Mad cause budget Bulgarian zwyoo and Co got raped
2019-07-08 07:22
#461
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Bulgaria Amerikana 
+1
2019-07-08 08:10
#542
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Poland zJe 
im not mad. why should i be mad? He is just overrated average awp player.
2019-07-09 06:41
#546
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Canada StanleyLy 
Overacted but consistently delivering good impactful kills lmao. You’re probably one of those people who also screams at there team when you get solo killed in matches
2019-07-09 15:59
#451
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Canada Porgal 
Joining S1mple and Twistzz for the "MVP but still lost" depressed photo group.
2019-07-08 07:25
Nice
2019-07-08 07:42
carrier!!!!
2019-07-08 08:34
great player, but i think elige should have won it
2019-07-08 08:52
totally deserved
2019-07-08 09:18
For the example: the mvp in the NBA finals is assigned only to the player of the winning team. In any case, congratulations to Zywoo
2019-07-08 09:56
Yeah but imo doesnt make sense. Mvp should always go to the player with best performances. And he literally Carried them to the finals
2019-07-08 10:02
Different judgment meter. that's all.
2019-07-08 10:18
#470
s1mple | 
Europe Sam2k 
undeserved. s1mple should have won it.
2019-07-08 10:16
flair checks out
2019-07-08 10:36
#484
s1mple | 
Europe Sam2k 
flag checks out
2019-07-08 11:56
flair checks out LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
2019-07-08 12:06
#471
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Brazil cadik 
Expected from zywoo pure skill unlike s0mple dirty eco exit fragging baiting boosted stats
2019-07-08 10:17
#473
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Germany Booya 
absolute deserved, Liquid had different player who impact a lot not just elige, Naf and Twist also played absolute hardcore and zywo0 did so many mastermind plays against them.
2019-07-08 10:25
Zywoo bot, 0.68 And 0.93 at the final, hahahha, cracking under pressure bot
2019-07-08 10:26
0/8, worst bait I ever seen
2019-07-08 10:27
True
2019-07-08 10:29
So good, ez4superfrenchtalent
2019-07-08 10:40
He actually carried whole vitality to the finals. There were so many clutch moments be it fnatic or nrg or astralis without which the maps could have gone otherwise. And you need a single good player in a team who gives motivation. Rpk, nbk , apex they were all pretty washed out players before zywoo brought confidence and some high level plays. In liquid that is not the case as Allmost everyone is on the same level except twistz so zywoo really deserves it as he single handedly carried the entire team. Zywoo is much much better than simple who is flashy but less smart.
2019-07-08 11:45
ZywOo is so good
2019-07-08 12:06
Respect to his amazing talent. The best player to watch since KENNYS
2019-07-08 12:13
congrats, amazing player
2019-07-08 12:50
#498
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Japan ehegao 
Good job
2019-07-08 13:59
the losing team should never ever get MVP this has to stop in esports this is making the MVP status look bad
2019-07-08 16:19
#509
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Germany Booya 
no it does the opposite, to honour a player for his work even if his team lost is something that is much better than the crap from Olympia or other sports where the winner takes it all and the rest is crap. His outstanding performance in his team stands over the good performance of e.g. three players in the enemy team
2019-07-08 16:41
totally deserved. yes elige is very good, but elige has other players on his team who can also play cs a bit. Zywoo has 4 talentless outdated guys he has to throw on his back and hard carry all 4 of them. there is no way that anyone deserved the mvp more than zywoo.
2019-07-08 16:26
#508
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Spain mokerz 
zyw0o is a monster but.... twistzzz was so crucial and winner
2019-07-08 16:27
#532
Japan xcy 
+132 K/D diff across 17 maps, no one comes anywhere near ZywOo for the MVP award.
2019-07-08 20:57
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