karrigan: "I don't want to put pressure on frozen, that we have to rely on him being the second star; right now I call him the joker"

While the playoffs of ESL One Cologne were going on, we sat down with Finn "⁠karrigan⁠" Andersen to hear his thoughts about the matches at ESL One Cologne and the potential of the mousesports lineup.

As we talked with karrigan in the press room, the semi-final between Astralis and Vitality was going on, with the crowd roaring as clutches and big plays happened. Our conversation was focused on other things, though, such as karrigan's former team FaZe, and working with a completely new lineup in mousesports.

With more experience, karrigan is hoping woxic becomes the superstar the team needs

In the interview, the Danish in-game leader mentioned that the BO1 match they lost to Natus Vincere was the team's first disappointing loss, with another one following after this interview was conducted, as mousesports was eliminated from the ESL One New York qualifier by CR4ZY.

You lost to Natus Vincere twice, which got you eliminated. How did you see those game developing, especially with it going to Train, which looked like your best map but where you were beaten twice here?

Coming into the tournament, we knew when we had to play Na`Vi that the preparation for the opponent would be really hard, we had no idea about Na`Vi's map pool and they had a ton of information on our Train, for example. When you play your best map you are also prepared for what the enemies are doing, in this case, the only thing we could do was kind of anti-strat ourselves and try to guess what they would abuse and what we could abuse.

If you saw the game, it was obviously trying to hit B in the BO1 a lot, there were two afterplants we shouldn't have lost, especially the last one, 15-14, 4v2, miscommunication and missed shots cost us of going into overtime there. A few rounds before, 14-11, we had somehow lost a 5v3 afterplant. So that game was the first one I have had in mouz that was really disappointing, we didn't hit our shots, the communication was off and we couldn't finish the game. I said to the guys that it was one of those games which are always going to happen. In the end, the BO3 was different, but it still was really tough to play as well.

The FaZe match was also pretty interesting because it was against your former teammates, you had played them earlier at EPL as well, you had beaten them there and you beat them now again. Obviously, they are going through a rough period and I noticed that after the second game you didn't really go out and BM them on Twitter, you kept it classy, but how much did that mean to you overall?

It is quite funny, I knew, the second I did the last interview in which I said I want to meet them in an elimination game that it was probably going to happen in Cologne, and when I saw the groups, I knew it was somehow going to end there - and it obviously did. It had obviously been a different game in Montpellier because there was no pressure there, the team wasn't out of the tournament yet. I was a little bit more nervous this time. Obviously, they are going through a rough time and we are going towards a better time, I would say, when you look at the last results. So as you said, I didn't want to go out and do anything, I have great respect for them and I know that they are going through a tough period right now, so maybe another time when they are going through a better time and we are maybe at the top as well we can do a little bit more banter. Between me and them it is all fun, and I hope they see it the same way as well.

Before this tournament you broke into the top 10, the first time for this lineup, and you said something along of the lines of you being satisfied. But looking at the players you have: chrisJ and ropz were in the top 10 with their team for the whole year, you were in the top 10 for the whole of last year, woxic top20, frozen is the only guy that is kind of unknown and doesn't have experience. Is it really that impressive to get into the top 10 after four months?

I think the impressive thing is that normally, when you go really fast into the top 10, you have a lot of tournaments or you have one really deep run, going into a big final like FURIA did, suddenly they are in the top5 because of two deep runs. We had three tournaments, two big ones and one small one which will not give you a lot of points in the rankings. I said to myself when we made the lineup that I expected one big playoff before the break, and we have already done that twice, in Sydney and Montpellier, so I'm quite impressed by it.

The MIBR game in Sydney was a really tough one, the first time on the stage and they had a really good game. We lost to Liquid and Natus Vincere here in the group stage. Those are the three BO3s we've lost on LAN, and I think that is quite impressive when you see the teams we are beating. Going from day 1 we had nothing, no structure, no idea how people want to play, what role chrisJ would play, what role frozen would play... I think it is pretty impressive what we've done so far, but it doesn't stop here.

Talking about becoming an elite, established team, one of the things that is interesting about our team is that at the moment it is not really clear who the superstar of the team potentially is, if we compare it to the likes of Na`Vi and Vitality with s1mple and ZywOo, or even FaZe and Astralis, with NiKo and device. Who is going to be the player that is going to step up to the next level in your team?

Obviously, I think that ropz is the superstar of the team right now, but it is really hard to be that as the passive player he is, to be an enormous superstar and have big impact. If we all have a bad game, he will not have the impact because he is the passive guy, coming in, having to win 1v4s, 1v3s. You can do that sometimes, but you can't do it consistently. Right now that is the guy we rely on, and we are putting him into comfortable situations. When we made this team, I told myself that woxic is probably, with more experience on stage, going to turn into a superstar himself.

frozen was obviously a big question mark, but I think he has proved that he has the level to become a superstar player. How often he can reach that level is something we will have to help him with, put him into good situations. And I don't want to put pressure on a young guy like that, that we have to rely on him being the second star of the team. So right now I call him the joker. I also think we've seen that chrisJ has those games where he has superstar performances, so I'm really happy with the level of players we have and what we can achieve. And there is potential we have to switch around some roles and maybe there is another role frozen has to play, or a position. We started slowly doing that, changing things on certain maps, for example our Dust2 looked way better this tournament compared to the roles we had nearly two months ago when we played it in officials. So we are slowly getting there.

Denmark Finn 'karrigan' Andersen
Finn 'karrigan' Andersen
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I call him frozen
2019-07-10 00:34
Let it go
2019-07-10 02:21
Europe Qaia
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Brazil yalamix
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Indonesia Konerd1
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Poland Unluko
Nobody cares.
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Myanmar xdcc
karrigan batman
2019-07-10 00:35
kennyS | 
United States @rex
Who is robin?
2019-07-10 07:44
2019-07-10 08:32
no ropz
2019-07-10 13:35
robin is robin kool (ropz obviously)
2019-07-10 20:34
Good one +1
2019-07-12 18:59
ty sexy
2019-07-13 00:43
Yw! ;)
2019-07-14 03:22
He just put pressure on him by saying that he doesn’t want to put pressure on him
2019-07-10 00:36
Bot Karrigan omegalul
2019-07-10 00:39
Bot karrigan? LOOOOOL you know shit about cs. When astralis team signed karrigan they had a massive improve. Same with faze even before guardian and olof and niko. He grabed that shitty team with allu and kioshima and put them playing cs for the first time in their lives. Then he built an awesome lineup with faze that made it to the finals of a major loosing with c9 in the overtime on third map (so close) and now he settles a team with an amazing awper(woxic), a very inteligent player and second awper/second igl very consistent (chrisj) and two young talents with a lot of firepower (ropz and frozen) and structures his 3rd team into the top 10 and becoming better every day even having started the complete new roster not that long ago. And you still call karrigan a bot? Karrigan is nothing but a genious of an Igl.and i dont even cheer for mouse or faze but you have to give that to him. He’s a boss
2019-07-10 03:33
+1 the most underrated IGL of all time imo
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2019-07-10 14:32
I really think people underestimate karrigan. Yes he sometimes shoots like a bot. So what? If he make the right calls he doesn't even need to kill.... Their teammates are there to kill people. He's there to put the pieces on the board like a chess player. Every single team he's been he managed to work them to top 10. People just don't realize how hard this is... see other Igl's for example Pronax which was one of the best Igl's of all time but since he left fnatic he never managed to be that good again... and i could continue the list. And if people criticize karrigan about his shooting skills.... Pronax won a major with Fnatic and he must be the IGL with lower stats ever. When pronax killed 10 guys in a game it was a surprise... the average kills for pronax were what? 5 per game? xD. The only thing in common in TSM/astralis, Faze and mouse success is one player -> karrigan. and no one can denie that. Doens't matter who the players are.... the IGL is the key to every team and karrigan is just one of the best ever
2019-07-10 14:03
lmao u are a writer.
2019-07-10 14:30
and he doesnt cheer for mouz imagine that
2019-07-10 15:32
Dramatic but he only got shit on by trolls and haters. The evidence is evident that he is a legendary igl and I hope he gets his major cuz he deserves that and the clout it brings.
2019-07-10 17:52
Ignore mibr fans, they're mostly retarded
2019-07-10 04:15
Bolivia Natusch
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I am a Mibr fan too LOL, but I'm not blind
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Brazil SecondKS
yes, but chrisJ like igl is better, just look this mouz before
2019-07-10 05:24
mouz before? They didnt even get in MAJOR LUL
2019-07-10 09:50
Brazil SecondKS
mouz top2
2019-07-10 15:32
Hahaha even chrisj says karrigan is a 10x better igl. I love chrisj, but his skills lie elsewhere, which is completely fine.
2019-07-10 12:21
Karrigan wasn’t signed onto Astralis, he was signed into TSM back in 2015. Karrigan and the Astralis core created Astralis because of some internal issues with TSM.
2019-07-10 09:19
Same thing.... same lineup different org
2019-07-10 12:48
Lmao bot Karrigan
2019-07-10 10:07
2019-07-10 12:10
Literally the best igl
2019-07-10 12:27
spot on +1
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2019-07-11 10:52
fully agree
2019-07-11 15:37
But he drops the pressure by calling him joker instead of star
2019-07-10 05:46
The joker lul
2019-07-10 00:36
Finland CucumberFIN
karrigan good guy
2019-07-10 00:36
Turkey OdunKafaYT
Frozen is beast
2019-07-10 00:36
young man power
2019-07-10 08:34
Nice game against CR4ZY karrigan
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Brazil yalamix
2019-07-10 14:27
Canada dennek
those crazy guys only show up on lans, and theyre nemesis of mouz
2019-07-11 00:48
Australia Boostral
2019-07-10 00:36
Lost all respect I had for karrigan, calling others a "clown"
2019-07-10 00:37
hahahahaha This
2019-07-10 00:49
Flag doesn't check out
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Canada dennek
ur brazilian, noone cares about your opinion
2019-07-11 00:49
proof ?
2019-07-11 12:53
*the joke
2019-07-10 00:37
it's a bad joke but it made me laugh..
2019-07-10 00:48
Czech Republic berkley
carrygan ☝️
2019-07-10 00:38
i are agree
2019-07-10 03:26
ZywOo | 
Canada pain^
bring back the ropz-sunny duo plz
2019-07-10 00:43
Who is the first star?
2019-07-10 00:45
Read the last answer :P
2019-07-10 00:51
nt fakeflagging
2019-07-10 01:00
cya 10 y
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2019-07-10 01:18
Its ropz
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2019-07-10 00:49
I'm angry!
2019-07-10 00:50
Remember when people said frozen is better than sergej lul
2019-07-10 01:07
Well he actually is
2019-07-10 01:24
Portugal CRMN1
Well one of them will make top 20 in the ranking. The other one is frozen.
2019-07-10 02:46
Haha men such original jokes, you the real jokers here
2019-07-10 04:17
Portugal CRMN1
Joke or not that answers him
2019-07-10 04:23
United States Leapoz
its very possible that frozen will make top 20. he is an amazing player with even more potential when they find the perfect place for him on the team. he has show his ability to be a very impactful player and has only been in a team for 4 months
2019-07-10 18:54
Portugal CRMN1
But that's partly the reason why he will not make top 20. He needs an extraordinary second half of the year to compensate his lack of activity in the first, and I don't think mousesports is a lineup that will win events this year whereas sergej has been performing well since the beginning of the year and already got a few trophies and evps
2019-07-10 19:28
United States Leapoz
Yeah I guess that’s fair enough. Ence haven’t won that much either though iirc, just Sao Paulo and some other tourney that had like a $15,000 prize pool. mouz gonna win Starladder major btw ez 😎
2019-07-10 23:15
Portugal CRMN1
Mouz is a team I enjoy watching. Will be cheering for MIBR but seems like it's a waste of time given that they'll play with zews (or coldzera(?)) but I wouldn't mind if mouz won at all.
2019-07-11 00:20
Canada dennek
sergej is a shit player, not that consistent and weak mentality
2019-07-11 00:50
Portugal CRMN1
Let me know when Frozen wins a 250k event and a big MVP.
2019-07-11 01:21
United States Leapoz
ofc ofc mibr does not seem to be in a very good place rn, i do not think they will go very far without a dramatic increase in mental/physical stability mouz is fun to watch (check flair) and i expect them to do good, but i dont realistically see them taking the whole tournament, but i do think that they will get far. we will have to see :)
2019-07-11 03:45
Portugal CRMN1
The first time I realistically raised hopes for MIBR happens in the same period as Coldzera requests to leave. MIBR have finally contracted a psychologist which is consensual that they already needed it for a long time. They're letting stupid things get on the way of their focus.
2019-07-11 03:54
ropz | 
Czech Republic y0fl0w
he easily is
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2019-07-10 01:42
True :)
2019-07-10 05:11
Nt prodka keep dreaming
2019-07-10 08:27
Haha mad cause ence is heading back to where they belong. Outside the top 20.
2019-07-10 12:24
He is. Ence overrated clan 0 win in Cologne lul
2019-07-10 03:13
2019-07-10 08:24
United States Leapoz
sergej has been on a top team that attends big events for over a year now, frozen has been for 4 months. sergej has over 3x the experience on big teams than frozen does. also should note that ence has done very little since katowice lol
2019-07-10 18:58
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Russia og_loc
frozen > sergej
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North America Neshie
Best of luck to them at the Minor.
2019-07-10 01:15
Myanmar tictactoe
woxic is their biggest star.
2019-07-10 01:25
Definitely by eye test. Watching him play is amazing
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African Union mikecool
The joke is actually mouseports xD
2019-07-10 01:44
You gave you permission to comment?! Your village burns today
2019-07-10 04:18
I read your message 69 times and still don't know wtf is going on. Mens??))
2019-07-10 08:13
Tribal wars. It’s nasty, stay out of it. They only have X internet per day, and Mikecool used it all to make useless comment. Now they don’t have internet to look up UV-index and whole mikecool’s homevillage has to pay the price
2019-07-10 11:51
Is this a meme or are you for real?
2019-07-11 04:08
As the local friendly warlord, i have to make sure rhings like this don't go unpunished
2019-07-11 05:57
2019-07-11 12:16
African Union mikecool
You don't know me. I find your family and make you disappear.
2019-07-10 12:03
FriendlyAfricanWarlord ain't gonna be friendly to you no more Ps My goons are on their way
2019-07-11 05:56
Please forgive him and his audacity..
2019-07-11 12:21
African Union mikecool
I don't need to forgive. I just need to kill....
2019-07-11 16:03
shit mikecool, not cool
2019-07-11 16:03
African Union mikecool
Push comes to shove I will defend myself.
2019-07-11 16:03
Well u right, guess it's the simple life out there on the savannah. Stay hydrated, and watch out for the lion packs.
2019-07-11 16:05
African Union mikecool
Will do my man. Peace be with you.
2019-07-11 16:22
And with u black brotha
2019-07-11 16:26
African Union mikecool
Bring it. I am waiting.
2019-07-11 16:03
Sorry for delay in your execution. My goons got eaten by a lion pride on the way to your village. I've ordered new ones from congo, they'll arrive in 7-10 business days. You just stay put ma brotha.
2019-07-13 08:01
African Union mikecool
I'll just get more lions to eat your goons ;). They were very tasty btw.
2019-07-13 10:04
2019-07-10 01:46
Karrigan = :-)
2019-07-10 01:53
gl being consistent team with 2 wildcards in woxic and frozen
2019-07-10 01:57
+1 honestly true, woxic has a really high skill cieling and we have seen it before, unfortunetley hes so inconsistent
2019-07-10 10:28
Okay,then who is batman?
2019-07-10 01:58
He loves it when you call him big popa
2019-07-10 02:27
A Joker calling another guy Joker Okay then
2019-07-10 03:10
like a deck of cards, the joker card, you dont count on it to win you games, but when it shows up you definitely win
2019-07-10 03:55
Ignore french people with 0 iq
2019-07-10 04:19
:( pourquoi es-tu si énervé? (googled)
2019-07-10 04:23
Yeah, they are retards
2019-07-10 04:46
In which card game, joker wins u the match?
2019-07-10 11:02
you can come here and ask this but not type in google? Fine. Euchre, 500: As the highest trump or "top Bower". Canasta: The joker, like the deuce, is a wild card. However, the joker is worth 50 points in melding, as opposed to 20 for the deuce. Gin Rummy: a wild card, able to be used as any necessary rank or suit to complete a meld.
2019-07-10 19:45
Well, if u really wanted to reply, then you can chose not to be sarcastic!
2019-07-11 12:01
sorry, no offense, was trying to be a little funny and also give info
2019-07-11 18:59
im batman
2019-07-10 03:14
check frozen's pc, he may use cheat from forsaken cuz they have the similar name
2019-07-10 03:36
2019-07-10 03:56
+1 frozaken
2019-07-10 12:28
Brazil yalamix
2019-07-10 14:29
Nice rely
2019-07-10 03:38
Sweden Div-\
I love karrigan. The guy is so smart.
2019-07-10 03:45
I like his interviews because he seems genuine, but still very mature.
2019-07-10 12:29
-frozen +coldzera
2019-07-10 04:56
-chrisJ +Cold
2019-07-10 10:53
Def not, imo. Need chris for secondary calls. And his fragging has been definitely more beneficial than Frozens.
2019-07-10 15:13
Canada dennek
frozen fits better than cold in this team.
2019-07-11 00:52
isnt woxic a star?
2019-07-10 05:03
I think he is still fitting in a bit. He was so used to playing he way he did with issa.
2019-07-10 12:30
we live in a mouseciety
2019-07-10 05:03
i like frozen
2019-07-10 05:31
smash joker
2019-07-10 05:38
Sweden Lagge15
I hope Frozen always play this in TS before each map they play! "Some people call me the space cowboy, yeah Some call me the gangster of love Some people call me Maurice Cause I speak of the pompitous of love People talk about me, baby Say I'm doin' you wrong, doin' you wrong Well, don't you worry baby Don't worry Cause I'm right here, right here, right here, right here at home Cause I'm a picker I'm a grinner I'm a lover And I'm a sinner I play my music in the sun I'm a joker I'm a smoker I'm a midnight toker I sure don't want to hurt no one I'm a picker I'm a grinner I'm a lover And I'm a sinner I play my music in the sun I'm a joker I'm a smoker I'm a midnight toker I get my lovin' on the run Wooo Wooooo You're the cutest thing That I ever did see I really love your peaches Want to shake your tree Lovey-dovey, lovey-dovey, lovey-dovey all the time Ooo-eee baby, I'll sure show you a good time Cause I'm a picker I'm a grinner I'm a lover And I'm a sinner I play my music in the sun I'm a joker I'm a smoker I'm a midnight toker I get my lovin' on the run I'm a picker I'm a grinner I'm a lover And I'm a sinner I play my music in the sun I'm a joker I'm a smoker I'm a midnight toker I sure don't want to hurt no one Wooo Woooo People keep talking about me baby They say I'm doin' you wrong Well don't you worry, don't worry, no don't worry mama Cause I'm right here at home You're the cutest thing I ever did see Really love your peaches want to shake your tree Lovey-dovey, lovey-dovey, lovey-dovey all the time Come on baby and I'll show you a good time"
2019-07-10 06:48
2019-07-10 08:37
the joker so cringe rofl
2019-07-10 06:58
Teenager spotted The irony of using "ROFL" after calling something cringey.
2019-07-10 12:31
Canada dennek
do you even understand what he meant by joker?
2019-07-11 00:53
I don't want to put pressure on karrigan, they have to rely on him being IGL, but right now I call him a joke.
2019-07-10 07:03
2019-07-10 08:37
hey joker come here
2019-07-10 07:01
bot karrigan yes?
2019-07-10 07:12
Underrated igl
2019-07-10 07:14
We live in a society
2019-07-10 07:28
First star toxic donky woxic?
2019-07-10 07:46
unfortunately I don't believe in this line up. They don't have players which can close a game
2019-07-10 07:50
All their players have the ability, the pieces have just not fallen into place yet where they are 100% comfortable and confident, they just need to believe and do their best, then they'll have bigger success.
2019-07-10 09:03
LMBT as coach and line-up 2018 reached peak Mous
2019-07-10 08:30
Didn't even get past the first round of ESL One NY qualifiers lol
2019-07-10 08:35
I don't want to put pressure on frozen, then add pressure on frozen.. lols
2019-07-10 08:55
2019-07-10 09:03
Make that conclusion once the dust settles.. I think both Ropz and Frozen will rise up once the lineup is 100% confident.
2019-07-10 09:04
flag checks out
2019-07-10 11:17
Germany anfrejx
So sad. Would really like to see mouse play live 😢
2019-07-10 09:13
joker omegaLUL
2019-07-10 09:45
Canada dennek
huzurnii jokeroor zuirlej bgama.
2019-07-11 00:53
2019-07-10 11:04
Joker xaxa
2019-07-10 11:22
who cares this fatty noob? clan hopper same like maikelelellelelelowlowlowlowlowlow
2019-07-10 12:29
2019-07-10 12:32
hahahahhaha dansk kanker
2019-07-11 17:01
worst player of team comments others xd karrigen should be out years ago
2019-07-10 12:34
World spaaace
this guy likes to say "obviously"
2019-07-10 15:08
2019-07-10 15:11
There is only one Joker and his name is Nikola Jokic :)
2019-07-10 16:25
They already have 3 stars in this team, w0xic the flick criminal, ropz and frozen
2019-07-10 17:46
Canada dennek
For all those incels who doesn't understand what Karrigan meant by saying 'joker': He meant it as the Joker in the card game. If it comes out or can be used in the right time, it is a game winning, and most powerful card but Joker doesn't have a consistent impact.
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