Aerial: "We don't know how to counter ZywOo; it was so relieving [to dodge Vitality]"

We spoke to Jani "Aerial" Jussila on the semi-finals day of IEM Chicago after ENCE became the first finalists following a win over MIBR.

The Finns have improved on their result at ESL One Cologne, where losses to Heroic and Vitality saw them exit the tournament in last place just two before the kick-off of IEM Chicago.

This time, they have defeated Heroic en route to the playoffs and have made it to the grand final despite a tough opening Mirage loss to MIBR in the semi-finals, and we got a hold of Aerial to ask about what has changed from their showing in Germany.

Aerial admits Vitality has been a problem for ENCE

The Finn also commented on the Vitality matchup and what makes it difficult, as well as a potential rematch from the DreamHack Masters Dallas grand final against Liquid:

You had the same teams in your group as in Cologne in Heroic and Vitality, who sent you home early, did you approach this time any differently to Cologne?

I don't know, we practiced a lot before this event, as well as before Cologne, but in the first best-of-one in Cologne [against Heroic], we didn't play our best at all, we weren't on the server, I think. NaTo said in an HLTV interview that they were pretty much antistratting us and that's pretty much the case, they were stacking A a lot as CT and we were going A all the time. On top of that, we didn't hit our shots and the communication was bad. We weren't hyped at all, it felt like we were a little bit depressed to play, which we usually don't. Usually, we are very hyped, especially when we get to a new environment, and that boosts us and makes us play great there, but we didn't see it in Cologne, at least in the best-of-one game against Heroic. The Vitality game, it was better from us, but we have always been struggling against Vitality, we can't beat them, we don't know how to counter ZywOo and they play really good CS, it's a problem for us.

Were you glad you got to dodge Vitality here in Chicago?

Yeah, it was so relieving.

What about Heroic, then, what changed from Cologne, how did you play differently against them?

The atmosphere was a lot better, we were communicating really well and we were hitting our shots. We played a best-of-one on Mirage against them and there's been some struggles for us on Mirage lately, we saw it against MIBR, we were playing really bad CS, I think, in Cologne as well as here against MIBR on Mirage. There's something wrong about it right now, but it used to be one of our best maps. We usually have some map where something is wrong about it. It changes, usually it has been Inferno, then it was Overpass sometimes, and now it seems it's Mirage, I don't know what is really wrong about it.

MIBR play a bit differently with zews to what they used to, did they surprise you?

I think they antistratted us a little bit, they knew our setups and what we want to do on that map, they were ready for that and they caught us off-guard.

You seemed to be really comfortable on Train and Dust2 today, was that just down to the maps, then?

Yes, of course, we are really comfortable on Train at least, it's our best map and we usually play really good on it every time. I was actually a little bit surprised that we played that well on Dust2 because it has been a map that we have been struggling on lately, but we played really good CS on Dust2 this time, so I was happy.

In the final, either way you will meet one of the teams who stood in your way in the past, Liquid in Dallas and Vitality in Cologne, is there any preference considering what you said earlier about Vitality?

We want to face Liquid, I think, because Vitality has been a struggle for us. We won against Liquid at the Major and I think we are winning on the score, still, it is very close. Even in Dallas, we were playing a really close game against them, the third map was like 16-13 or something.

Does it just come down to a stylistic difference that is better for you in Liquid?

Yeah, I think so, the map pool is pretty much the same, they both veto Train out, so it doesn't matter that much. But I think against Vitality, ZywOo is the problem for us, he's always shutting us down and Liquid doesn't have that kind of player - they are really good players, but not an AWPer like ZywOo there, that makes it easier for us.

Finland Jani 'Aerial' Jussila
Jani 'Aerial' Jussila
Age:
26
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.10
Maps played:
502
KPR:
0.75
DPR:
0.66
APR:
0.15
#2
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Austria shaakeh 
Expected
2019-07-21 03:52
Kkkk
2019-07-21 09:06
#223
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Sweden Unluko 
LMFAOO
2019-07-21 11:00
ROFL
2019-07-21 14:48
LOL!!
2019-07-21 16:44
xaxaxa
2019-07-21 20:24
AHHAHAH NA fanboys so triggered LUL
2019-07-21 13:09
#331
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United States Samsquanch_ 
It’s the EU boys who’ve been triggered the last 4 events. 2 decades not enough for you snowflakes? Gotta cry the moment NA has its time?
2019-07-21 18:08
You are NIP fan tho
2019-07-21 18:27
#339
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United States Samsquanch_ 
And? I’ve been a NIP fan since before CSGO; doesn’t mean I can’t call out you pathetic crybabies. I mean come the fuck on, get a grip. It’s truly pathetic. People from NA have put up with the “NA SO TRASH” shit for 2 decades, and have fully admitted EU and CIS dominance. 20 fucking years dude! Now there’s 1 year where NA is dominating the entire scene and all of you are like, “ MOM ITS UNFAIR, THEYRE BEING MEAN!” Like seriously, just stop
2019-07-21 19:25
imagine taking comments like that serious xd
2019-07-21 19:43
#427
EliGE | 
Lithuania 7000won 
xd
2019-07-22 12:25
#367
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France PownyZ 
Cry baby
2019-07-21 20:36
#381
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United States Samsquanch_ 
Lol go use your baguette dildo and get your rocks off. Vitality’s loss is making you cranky.
2019-07-21 21:32
#419
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France PownyZ 
Haha continu my friend
2019-07-22 07:49
#373
f0rest | 
Sweden Svahn 
The man has a point
2019-07-21 20:50
cry is free mf
2019-07-22 08:22
#437
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United Kingdom alcaz4r_ 
lmao cry more it's fun to watch
2019-07-22 15:38
#431
EliGE | 
Lithuania 7000won 
xd
2019-07-22 12:29
#4
VINI | 
Brazil logzera 
Second
2019-07-21 03:52
#18
shroud | 
India _SHM_ 
NT
2019-07-21 03:56
#430
EliGE | 
Lithuania 7000won 
nt
2019-07-22 12:26
Squared
2019-07-21 04:04
#5
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Japan ehegao 
NBK is god. Best IGL of all time. Lead french team won two major.
2019-07-21 03:53
Glaive won 3
2019-07-21 04:13
Nbk isn't real igl in Vitality so stfu
2019-07-21 04:22
He is CT side IGL and Alex is t side IGL apart from inferno because Alex never played inferno with LDLC
2019-07-21 05:20
Nt fake France flag
2019-07-21 10:31
nt weeb
2019-07-21 11:07
Nt yellow teeth Oi m8 get me a cuppa tea bruv
2019-07-21 11:39
hentai is for child molester pedophiles
2019-07-21 13:25
reported for racist mens, cya in 5 week))
2019-07-21 14:16
Not really fake flag but oui oui baguette mon ami
2019-07-21 12:50
Ur just a 90 Degree turned french flag LOL
2019-07-21 12:50
No french flag is a 90 degree turned dutch flag.
2019-07-21 14:30
says a girl whos last visitor was pink_dildo
2019-07-21 14:31
Imagining assuming my gender in 2019 you pig
2019-07-21 18:31
#185
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Romania kr1tex 
He is
2019-07-21 10:17
He wasnt igling then
2019-07-21 04:35
isnt zywoo the igl now?
2019-07-21 04:40
Lul since when
2019-07-21 04:58
#112
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Finland Murkkeli 
how can you not know that Zyw0o is the -Support -Entry -Awp -IGL and a rifler
2019-07-21 07:14
Oh sorry I forgot mens :(
2019-07-21 07:57
#247
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Finland M0nzaa 
next week he will also start coaching vitality :()
2019-07-21 12:15
Ez for zywoo
2019-07-21 12:34
#428
EliGE | 
Lithuania 7000won 
xd
2019-07-22 12:26
#107
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Australia CaZeR01 
0/8
2019-07-21 07:02
#186
s1mple | 
Romania OMW 
Zywho?
2019-07-21 10:18
#43
BOOBIE | 
United States lybrel 
lmao denying that UKCSLUL is IGL
2019-07-21 04:41
#44
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China hdgamerrr 
i heard NBK is igl in ct and alex is leading in T
2019-07-21 04:43
did your momma tell you that?
2019-07-21 05:16
Maybe his mom told Him as well but its true. Alex does t site strats apart from inferno where NBK does it because Alex never played inferno with LDLC. And NBK does CT side + inferno t side
2019-07-21 05:19
#69
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China hdgamerrr 
Focus on the point when your daddy trying to tell you something
2019-07-21 05:29
#184
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Lithuania arres 
Do you really think his mom knows anything about cs? Dude
2019-07-21 10:13
#187
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Romania kr1tex 
Well his momma was right
2019-07-21 10:19
#426
EliGE | 
Lithuania 7000won 
+1
2019-07-22 12:25
original. 10/10 idiot
2019-07-21 13:31
Flag. Flair
2019-07-21 09:27
#232
jks | 
Finland v3gez 
Shut up fluketality fan
2019-07-21 11:37
#252
s1mple | 
Germany NatsuS 
IDK but NBK was only at the majors cuz Happy didn't find another jerk. Happy was IGL at major wins. Do you know why? Because with NBK IGL you become immediately a snitch, bitch, match-fixer, backstabber and shit person.
2019-07-21 12:27
not like happy was much better he was the biggest baiter
2019-07-21 13:52
#288
s1mple | 
Germany NatsuS 
He was a god in baiting and saviour of french csgo. baiter is equal to snitch, bitch, match-fixing and being a shit person? Okay LUL
2019-07-21 14:08
yep thats why he is stuck in shit tier10 french teams
2019-07-21 14:08
#291
s1mple | 
Germany NatsuS 
he stuck there cuz all other players in french are toxic, snitches, bitches, match-fixer and shit persons.
2019-07-21 14:14
of course its everyone but happy lol
2019-07-21 15:09
At least Happy won MVP for his first major win while IGLing. What did NBK do? Not much, I don't remember him being that good in DHW 2014.
2019-08-12 10:28
0/8
2019-08-12 10:27
Shots fired at liquid
2019-07-21 03:52
Liquid will let their game do the talking tomorrow
2019-07-21 03:53
#23
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Switzerland MRKNUSPER 
what? by saying they have no awper like zywoo? he just stated that their gamestyle fits them better, which is true if u look at the head2head nevertheless Liquid is the clear favourite
2019-07-21 03:58
#154
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Europe tweekzter 
He basically said that Liquid is easier to beat than Vitality.
2019-07-21 09:19
#171
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Finland Jansk1h 
For THEM. Important distinction there
2019-07-21 09:39
U think low iq users can make that distinction?
2019-07-21 09:56
#183
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Finland Jansk1h 
evidently not
2019-07-21 10:07
#210
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Europe tweekzter 
Evidently your distinction is in fact an addition.
2019-07-21 10:41
#204
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Europe tweekzter 
Well mr high IQ, to be precisely correct, if you go by plain logic, my statement is 100% correct. No distinction required. That distinction is in fact an addition.
2019-07-21 10:40
#244
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Denmark ghostan11 
0/8
2019-07-21 12:10
-1
2019-07-21 12:54
-1
2019-07-21 13:29
Nobody likes smartasses
2019-07-22 00:14
+1 Hltv users are so soft.. everything is so deep and hurts their feelings that they dont even try to understand the point.
2019-07-21 10:29
#213
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Europe tweekzter 
The point is, that he thinks they are easier to beat. If I was Team Liquid, I'd take this as motivation to prove them otherwise. Simple as that.
2019-07-21 10:45
#222
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Finland Jansk1h 
Luckily no one cares how you think
2019-07-21 10:55
#245
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Denmark ghostan11 
Typical low IQ thinking
2019-07-21 12:10
#402
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Europe tweekzter 
Thanks god they didn't face Vitality. Imagine what would've happened Mr Aerial. nitr0 + Twistzz (assist) killed Aerial with knife_butterfly
2019-07-22 00:59
#403
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Denmark ghostan11 
still low iq thinking considering you didnt even understand this interview , but oh well done talking to you
2019-07-22 01:00
#405
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Europe tweekzter 
You were interpreting something into my statement that just was not there. Aerial was happy not to face Vitality. And while it is arguably understandable, it is still not necessary to make such a statement. Cause oh boy was it fun to see Stewie rage on them after the frags now... :)
2019-07-22 01:06
Well , they're afraid of ZyWHO? apperantly , not TL. All i want is interesting match. Obviouslly Vitality vs Liquid is boring as there was not a good fight.
2019-07-21 22:08
Nice mentality Ence never top1 ever
2019-07-21 03:53
#429
EliGE | 
Lithuania 7000won 
+1
2019-07-22 12:26
Let's see them counter ELiGE.. and Stewie.. and NAF.. and Twistzz.. and nitr0..
2019-07-21 03:54
+1
2019-07-21 03:57
#88
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United States DervGuy 
+1
2019-07-21 05:34
#129
neaLaN | 
France swag0 
don't act cocky remember the major ?
2019-07-21 08:07
#137
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North America noahB_ 
At major ence caught them off guard, liquid was only focusing on astralis, this obviously wont happen again. It's a grand final and liquid will bring there a game and have even improved since Dallas win, meanwhile ence have looked shaky since then.
2019-07-21 08:21
Liquid choked
2019-07-21 09:00
14-7 choke 4head
2019-07-21 11:32
NA CS Pog
2019-07-21 08:49
#239
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France Quarovv 
We will see on the Major, but know they are top 1
2019-07-21 11:48
Nitro not even top10 awper. Whiffs so much easy shots. He is the only bad fragger in TL
2019-07-21 14:30
stewie so ez to counter, just drop a smoke and wait for the little chinese man to jump through it and kill him
2019-07-21 15:59
:DDDDDDDD
2019-07-22 00:15
If you cant counter a single very good player how would you counter the best team in the world then?
2019-07-21 03:54
brainpower
2019-07-21 04:16
#93
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Mongolia OMgLGaming 
He probably explained it in a weird way, imo I think aerial was trying to say they don't have much information on how zywoo plays because he is relatively new to the scene, and they have played with each other a few times. As for liquid, they played against each other more, and they are a little more used to liquid's style.
2019-07-21 05:41
+1
2019-07-21 09:30
#188
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Romania kr1tex 
Don't even try to explain this, liquid fans won't understand
2019-07-21 10:22
Rekt. "The #1 team" will be dethroned at the major. There will be a "cry wave" soon , because the delusional fans really think liquid is #1 just because all the teams are shaky atm
2019-07-21 10:32
#217
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Romania kr1tex 
Yeah, I don't think they'll win the major
2019-07-21 10:46
#302
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United States DervGuy 
I believe :) But yeah some people really misunderstood what Aerial was trying to say
2019-07-21 15:16
LUL. Australian + Blastralis player fangay Cry is free
2019-07-21 18:00
U are fan of botsinpyjamas... bruuuuuuh
2019-07-21 22:03
#269
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France arioneleven 
Zywoo is just an unexpected type of players and vitality gives him the freedom to play everywhere Look at mirage for example, he can go A safe/ A deep /Long / connector / B monster early / B safe and the others support him very well when they play this way, yet ence don't know how to play against this type of plays
2019-07-21 13:24
Zywoo > entirety of Lulquid
2019-07-21 05:50
#98
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Canada zoumbadouCS 
NT
2019-07-21 06:08
Fact. None of the Vitality players shows respect to other teams , but for some reason apex , rpk and alex gives too much respect to Liquid, zywoo and nbk are the only 2 trying.
2019-07-21 10:35
#156
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Europe tweekzter 
We will see how good they actually are after today.
2019-07-21 09:20
#13
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North America noahB_ 
Lmao damage control, ence themselves know they have much better chance at beating vitality than liquid.
2019-07-21 03:54
Or just honesty.
2019-07-21 04:00
#27
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North America noahB_ 
As an ence fan are u really gonna tell me you feel more confident playing liquid tomorrow than you would have playing vitality.
2019-07-21 04:03
For ence it might appear Liquid is more beatable though if we think their own experience from this match up, they are yet to beat Vitality in series whereas vs Liquid they have done it at least and last time it was close also in the end, I do agree though in reality they would have better chance vs Vitality, especially considering Vitality RN seems a bit mentally tired maybe
2019-07-21 04:08
Liquid is more known opponent so yes
2019-07-21 07:57
#134
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North America noahB_ 
gl mens))) sorry in advanced for the 3-0
2019-07-21 08:18
Lmao i really like liquid but why do they have so arrogant and dumb fans?
2019-07-21 08:47
#148
Twistzz | 
Singapore 3st 
i really dk
2019-07-21 09:03
Probably has to do with their storng national proud. They see a team with an US flag and it's also #1 in the world and thus they become a fan of this team and put all their proud into it. Which sadly seems to be a bit too much from some people.
2019-07-21 09:09
#157
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North America noahB_ 
If whatever team u were supporting were playing like liquid has over last 3 months youd be arrogant af too. Liquid have now won 19 series in a row now, and it will be 20 tomorrow. We have a right to be arrogant, and i dont believe for a second any other fans wouldnt also.
2019-07-21 09:22
NA nationalism brain. Im a fan of csgo before im a fan of a team. I want fun matches to see not 3-0’s that the most fun for both sites and the win feels way better that way. good cs > Slaughter match.
2019-07-21 09:31
#165
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North America noahB_ 
Nah when it's my team doing the slaughter feels pretty good, maybe after a long time it could get boring for me, but we're not there yet. liquid still havent even won a major
2019-07-21 09:33
Then you’re the shittiest sport supporter ever. Every soccer/football fan likes to see good soccer where the game is good so its worth their money. No real fan of the sport would like to see a Slaughter and you’re a shitty fan.
2019-07-21 12:49
#307
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North America noahB_ 
nah i love seeing my team 3-0 someone, that IS good football, same as astralis or liquid dominating some team is good cs
2019-07-21 15:41
No that is not fun. If that would happen to your team would you enjoy it? No. When i play with my team and we win a close 2-1 or 1-0 then it feels good. A 16-0 does not feel as good
2019-07-21 17:33
Your probably right about the point that others would be arrogant aswell but imo noone has a "right to be arrogant". It just makes you seem like an asshole eventhough you're probably just hyped and proud because of your team
2019-07-21 09:33
#201
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North America noahB_ 
Tbf I dont think arrogant is the right word to use. I think it is more so justifiable confidence based on results and evidence. Arrogance means exaggerated sense of one's own importance and abilities.
2019-07-21 10:38
#338
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Finland orgrinrt 
Arrogance doesn't imply exaggeration in any way. One can be arrogant, perhaps even especially so, when they are objectively considered "justified" in their "superiority".
2019-07-21 19:16
#193
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Romania kr1tex 
No matter how good your fav team is it doesn't give u the right to be a dick and talk shit on everyone wtf. It's not your achievement so I don't see how u can behave like a fucking ape because of someone else's achievements. It's ok to root for your team and be happy when they win, but every civilized human being knows the limits.
2019-07-21 10:29
U remember Astralis? How bad they used to spank Liquid? Wait till the major , NA cs back to #2 pos. 😈
2019-07-21 10:38
#205
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North America noahB_ 
Oh trust me I remember how good they USED to be, all those 2nd places. That's why it feels soooooo good to be winning now. Liquid deserve it and they're earning it.
2019-07-21 10:39
Na IQ poggers
2019-07-21 11:20
Northern europeans wouldnt be arrogant if their team would be ranked as #1
2019-07-21 12:42
#311
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North America noahB_ 
highly doubt, also swedish cs has already proved that wrong
2019-07-21 15:42
Its only the arrogant little ginger kids from sweden
2019-07-22 05:39
Lmao, theres literally no reason for a fan to be arrogant. NA brain.
2019-07-21 15:53
EU supporters when they were winning everything: "HAHAHAHA AMERICA SUCKS, HAHAHAHA" EU supporters when USA starts winning: "wtf man, be respectful, don't have to be so arrogant wtf man." you do realize you're telling us NOT to be arrogant, while you, yourselves are being arrogant lol. CAN I GET A WAAAAAAAAAAMBULANCE?! USA #1 BABY!!! EU #2 HAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHA
2019-07-21 20:00
#370
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North America noahB_ 
+1 so true
2019-07-21 20:47
i like you.
2019-07-21 20:47
#372
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North America noahB_ 
I like u too bro
2019-07-21 20:48
NA lost to planes lol
2019-07-22 18:21
Americans
2019-07-21 15:40
yes
2019-07-21 08:08
#135
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North America noahB_ 
gl mens))) sorry in advanced for the 3-0
2019-07-21 08:18
#133
2019-07-21 08:20
Don't have to be sorry for anything. You play no part in their success. The only reason we even hear of you is because they've got WiFi at Burger King. :) Liquid is the best team right now so they should win, but ENCE have a small chance.
2019-07-21 10:23
#209
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North America noahB_ 
0/8 old same ass burger jokes, try something new come on lmao
2019-07-21 10:40
#340
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Finland orgrinrt 
The US does lead the fast food consumption charts internationally, adjusted per capita, by a quite considerable margin, and according to the (admittedly potentially unreliable) numbers I managed to find, around 50% of the US fast food industry consists of hamburger related enterprises, being the clear leading genre of fast food in the country. US also leads the obesity charts as well as those of fast food related health conditions (couldn't find the data on actual deaths caused by fast food). All this makes me think it's not much of a joke, really. I know I'm not laughing.
2019-07-21 19:39
truuuu. but we actually work out and don't look like scrawny little girls like you europeans :]
2019-07-21 20:02
#376
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Finland orgrinrt 
You say that, but Europeans combined hold considerably more titles/trophies in international level weight lifting, world's strongest man contests and other feats that require actual real work put in. This holds true even after we account for the population difference of about 200-400k (depending on what you count as Europe) that exists between the regions. I mean I get that the local stereotype in US is that "americans are tough", but when it comes down to it, Europeans just outclass americans in this regard. As to how an average-Joe of both regions would match when directly compared, I can't really say. Edit: Obviously being strong =/= being fit, which I assume is what you actually meant and I simply misunderstood it to mean being strong. Can't be arsed to research and compare non-strength based athletics or other available statistics of general fitness. Let's just say EU is stronger and when it comes to "fitness" in general, it may just be that US wins that comparison. Or maybe not.
2019-07-21 21:06
you REALLY just went the strongman route bro? LICIS is the worlds strongest man atm. AMERICAN. Don't get me started on power lifting, brother. You have at most what, 20-50 strongmen? And that's what you use to contradict my argument that you europeans are scrawny little girls? I'm spaniard, I was literally in spain and france last month. Scrawniest little girls i've seen in years. Get yourself a visa, fly over to the states, hmu, and let's see what your arguments are then. Finns live in such a small bubble mate.
2019-07-21 21:11
#379
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Finland orgrinrt 
Well, I can freely admit that this isn't my forte, but a rudimentary search of all titles owned and trophies won in this genre resulted in more european names than those of american. Historically soviets did fairly well too. I did not even care to see who holds the current titles, I was mainly interested in the total amounts, as it implies consistency, which of course current titles inherently do not. Obviously I only included those titles and trophies that were both international level as well as adequately established (so as to I was able to find them in my research with little effort). I did not include any results of bodybuilding competitions, as that has little to do with strength and was as such irrelevant. I'd be happy to be proven wrong however, seeing as I don't really care who is strongest or not. I'd be exactly as pleased if I somehow missed some piece of data and it turns out US won this comparison. I sometimes dive into various rabbit holes when I get intrigued about something, and this happened to be one of those instances. You are also free to disregard any of my claims, seeing as I didn't care to record any sources while I was browsing about, so I couldn't very well back any of the claims I just made. For whatever it's worth, the exact same data is publicly available so if you got interested as to how I came to my conclusion, it's out there. And as to your kind invitation of hitting you up to see what my arguments were then, I think I'll pass. I'm not scrawny myself, but I'm not tough by any means either. I might possess above-average strength but I'm as much of a pussy as your average Joe, which means historically I've been handling fighting pretty bad and I'm fairly confident I'd just get my ass handed over to me. At any rate, I hope you managed to enjoy your stay in Spain even with the presence of the scrawniest little girls looming around you. I wish you well.
2019-07-21 21:29
#268
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Croatia mds818 
what you have to look at is the playstyle, liquid has 5 very good players but they dont have an strong awper(and neither does ence), zywoo is pretty much winning games on his own(like simple) and sometimes it's easier for 5 riflers to go up against 5 riflers than one awper which can beat anyone, obviously i'm not saying that ence is going to beat liquid but considering their match history it should be a close match
2019-07-21 13:11
As a fan I dont think it matters what I think. The players know better than anyone else. Finnish people are also brutally honest so I understand your Liquid feelings got hurt, but that is just how it is. Get over it no one is "afraid" of your favourite team
2019-07-21 15:43
#315
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North America noahB_ 
i really dont care if theyre no afraid, theyre either lying or dumb, liquid will speak in the server
2019-07-21 15:45
And Ence will speak in Teamspeak? Na fans are so cocky when they feel relevant all of a sudden
2019-07-21 15:50
#29
zet | 
Switzerland MRKNUSPER 
ENCE really struggle with zywoo Liquid has been a better match up for them than vitality so far, eventhough Liquid is obviously the better team nothing wrong with what hes saying
2019-07-21 04:07
what an idiotic comment noah, if its was 'damage control' he would say he would rather play against vitality because liquid is so good so if they get swept in finals it would look little better. now if they get sweeped it will only be more embarrassing.
2019-07-21 13:33
#14
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United States Raptorial 
FINNISH CS IN 2K19 OMEGALUL
2019-07-21 03:55
NA CS
2019-07-21 07:57
Is
2019-07-21 07:57
Garbage
2019-07-21 07:57
so0o that means you're worse than garbage.
2019-07-21 20:04
Name atleast 5 good NA teams right now. Find it hard? Name atleast 5 good EU teams right now. Find it easy? Low iq Burgerican lmao ;D
2019-07-21 11:52
liquid, nrg, cloud9, complexity, mibr (they live in NA now ;])
2019-07-21 20:06
#16
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Qatar olaolakaka 
Ence will beat liquid Typical liquid fanbois reeeeeee
2019-07-21 03:56
wanna bet? paypal?
2019-07-21 20:06
ay ay ay!! didn't age well huh?
2019-07-22 13:36
#443
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Qatar olaolakaka 
Lmao i did not say ence will beat liquid this match men Obiviously they are saving strats for major. Beside liquid get their map first and then ct nuke, thats huge momentum wtf? Ence 2-1 liquid major final trust me men xd
2019-07-23 16:41
saving strats in 2019 omegalul... gonna get r-a-p-e-d again
2019-07-24 10:53
This did not age well
2019-07-28 20:23
#17
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United States @FyreCS 
Wtf XD
2019-07-21 03:56
Officially youngest God, ZYGOD
2019-07-21 03:57
#24
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Indonesia Exodd 
Ence legit scared lul, at least they’re honest
2019-07-21 03:59
Have they said they're scared? He literally said "we don't know how to counter him". But I checked your flag so I won't blame your stupidity. gl in life
2019-07-21 11:58
#325
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Qatar PrisMcsgo 
Racist bitch
2019-07-21 17:01
"Racist". Check the average iq in Indonesia. Also look at your police. They shoot black people just cuz of their skin color.
2019-07-21 18:02
and I'd shoot you just for looking at me. 'merica.
2019-07-21 20:07
#375
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Qatar PrisMcsgo 
Wowww ur racist. Finland is a shit country not gonna lie
2019-07-21 20:56
weforum.org/agenda/2019/03/finland-is-th.. usalivestats.com/ I think you're racist calling Finland as a shit country.. 12 years old in HLTV pog
2019-07-21 21:30
#327
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Indonesia Exodd 
But then again they did say “it was so relieving to dodge Vitality”, I think that shows that they’re afraid, to some degree, cause they don’t know how to counter Zywoo. Just my 2 cents btw no need to be butthurt about it lul
2019-07-21 17:07
#33
s1mple | 
Czech Republic LuL_ 
That's such a terrible mentality to have. Great players always want to play against the best players and best teams.
2019-07-21 04:18
#40
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Finland Faifainei 
In pracc but in tourneys with money and trophy on the line its shitty only in viewers pov.
2019-07-21 04:36
#191
s1mple | 
Czech Republic LuL_ 
Maybe, but to say it out loud, just makes it look uglier, as if you're throwing the towel if you face those guys.
2019-07-21 10:28
#115
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Europe lalt 
Eh, Liquid is the best team.
2019-07-21 07:22
Just refreshing honesty from Aerial.
2019-07-21 08:10
Ence just has problems vs vitality, liquid is the better team
2019-07-21 10:00
Guess thats some common issue for Nordic. Astralis cant deal with Zywoo as well. They can easily avoid S1mple but against Vitality nah... lets peek everything and give him free kills.
2019-07-21 10:41
zywoo>nitr0 zywoo>elige zywoo>>>lul2k zywoo>naf zywoo>twistzz /closed
2019-07-21 04:18
#37
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United States arandomguy 
/open Twistzz > aerial Twistzz > Sergej Twistzz > alLULu Twistzz > aleksib Twistzz > xseven Fluke ence /closed
2019-07-21 04:31
Flag checks out
2019-07-21 04:35
+999999999999
2019-07-21 04:37
#46
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United States arandomguy 
Shut up BUG
2019-07-21 04:43
Whoa, what a comeback! You really showed him lmao
2019-07-21 05:54
#96
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United States arandomguy 
Nt no scener
2019-07-21 05:58
burgerbrains.
2019-07-21 15:02
#45
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United States arandomguy 
But flair is relevant here. Cry all you want ENCE will always be a fluke team
2019-07-21 04:43
never been one, most likely never will be
2019-07-21 04:57
"ENCE will always be a fluke team" Sums up hltv quite nicely. ENCE could literally win the next 50 events and they'd still be called a fluke.
2019-07-21 05:14
#66
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United States arandomguy 
Shut up plastic
2019-07-21 05:27
Good argument
2019-07-21 05:28
#68
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United States arandomguy 
Shut up plastic
2019-07-21 05:29
Good argument
2019-07-21 05:29
#71
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United States arandomguy 
Shut up plastic
2019-07-21 05:29
Good argument
2019-07-21 05:29
#73
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United States arandomguy 
Shut up plastic
2019-07-21 05:29
Good argument
2019-07-21 05:30
#75
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United States arandomguy 
Shut up plastic
2019-07-21 05:30
Good argument
2019-07-21 05:30
#77
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United States arandomguy 
Shut up plastic
2019-07-21 05:30
Good argument
2019-07-21 05:30
#79
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United States arandomguy 
Shut up plastic
2019-07-21 05:30
Good argument
2019-07-21 05:30
#81
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United States arandomguy 
Shut up plastic
2019-07-21 05:31
Good argument
2019-07-21 05:31
#83
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United States arandomguy 
Shut up plastic
2019-07-21 05:31
Good argument
2019-07-21 05:31
#85
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United States arandomguy 
Shut up plastic
2019-07-21 05:31
Good argument
2019-07-21 05:31
#87
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United States arandomguy 
*waves white flag*
2019-07-21 05:33
FeelsBadMan
2019-07-21 05:36
C9 trash team hahahaa
2019-07-21 07:59
#159
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United States arandomguy 
Flukence....c9 won a major. Comeback when ence wins a major.
2019-07-21 09:26
A fluke major. C9 was a bigger fluke than ence has ever been
2019-07-21 09:54
#237
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United States arandomguy 
They came back from lower bracket and went onto beat G2,SK and Faze(who were the best at that time) Yeah and people call it fluke. c9 was a good team unlike ence. Ence is a meme team and will always be
2019-07-21 11:47
ENCE came from 0-2 and won Liquid and Navi who were top 2 and 3 at the time aswell. You arguments are stupid. C9 was good because they won the best teams but ENCE was a fluke when they did the same
2019-07-21 11:59
#243
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United States arandomguy 
If they were that good why didn't they win the finals. Lots of decent team have made it to final and still never won. That is a fluke in my POV. C9 is not a fluke
2019-07-21 12:05
Because it was Astralis. Astralis at Katowice >>>>>Faze at Boston If ENCE was a fluke, then so was c9.
2019-07-21 12:10
#248
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United States arandomguy 
CS Evolves...Its obv that astralis 2k19 will wipe Faze 2k18. But at that time Faze was number 1 team. By your logic every major winner before katowice 2k19 will be a fluke. No final team would have been able to beat astralis 2k19
2019-07-21 12:20
C9 had a higher chance of winning FaZe in Boston than ENCE winning Astralis in Katowice
2019-07-21 12:23
#253
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United States arandomguy 
Come on, how long will you keep coming up with your excuses. Don't embarrass yourself. Ence lost the final and it's a fluke they got there
2019-07-21 12:26
sounds like an excuse to me, mate. #flukeence
2019-07-21 20:10
Are you saying that ENCE had a higher chance of winning Astralis in katowice than c9 winning FaZe in Boston?? Then you are brain dead
2019-07-21 20:15
I'm saying you're an idiot for trying to compare the two. c9 won a major. your fluke team has not. end of story. what ifs mean nothing. AMERICA NUMBER ONE BITCH
2019-07-21 20:17
They fluked the major win
2019-07-21 20:18
#459
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Brazil hrp_ 
omegalul
2019-08-16 03:48
#190
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Poland rude_wredne 
That is a big yikes, man. Everybody knows (apart from clown9 fans) that c9 major was a one time thing - thats why stewie and tarik left, right? They knew what was coming. It's like with shroud - people make him as some kind of god of cs but in reality he was a pubstar in esea and never won anything vs actual pros. C9 actually won something ONCE (and now you keep talking like they are the best team) and look at them now. sad mens
2019-07-21 10:26
EU: "YOU HAVE NO ERA UNTIL YOU WIN A MAJOR!" USA: *wins major* EU: "DOESN'T COUNT, IT WAS A FLUKE, ASTRALIS DID IT BETTER" lmao. you europeans are the arrogant ones.
2019-07-21 20:13
#390
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Poland rude_wredne 
??? I have never said anything about "eras", never mentioned astralis. Maybe the word "fluke" major for clown9 is a bad choice of words. The team disbanded just after the major so something was coming anyway. And having an "era" after winning 1 tournament loos kinda ridicolous. Look gambit :/. Word "era" is misused on hltv anyway, just like GOAT (greatest of ALL TIME). Hmm.. You are from spain and spain is in europe as well.. so...?
2019-07-21 23:25
in america we learn that the world does not revolve around us. therefore, if you read closely, not once did i mention your name, specifically. i am from spain, and proudly. but I know when to admit I'm wrong. also, I've lived in the USA for 24 yrs, so kinda makes me American, too. at least my passport does. :] hope you're enjoying these finals <3. i sure am. AMERICA #1!
2019-07-21 23:36
#397
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Poland rude_wredne 
But you replied to my message so it was kinda pointed at me and I have never (seriousy, never) even said word "era" until this post.
2019-07-22 00:13
because you're the only european on this thread. you poles are so sensitive. get over yourself
2019-07-22 00:14
#406
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Poland rude_wredne 
lmao you really like shoving people into bags, dont you? "europeans this, poles that". You are missing my point espanol men)) nvm tho, have a nice day men ))
2019-07-22 01:05
did you forget i'm also european? what point am i missing? i clicked on your post because i didnt want to scroll up. lemme shove you into this bag: poles will never be back on top and neither will NiP :] USA #1 BABY! did you enjoy those finals? i sure did.
2019-07-22 01:08
#423
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Poland rude_wredne 
Yea, with our politicians, Poland will never be great again and i dont know what has to happen for us to be "big" again. Yea, I know nip will never be on top again :(. I just want "the old guys" like gtr and forest to win something again but I guess it will never happen. Finals were a stomp apart from map 3 so meh.
2019-07-22 10:23
#461
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Brazil hrp_ 
lol
2019-08-16 03:48
#462
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Brazil hrp_ 
ikr
2019-08-16 03:49
#141
sergej | 
Finland AxuZD 
Your argument were as invalid as you are stupid burger.
2019-07-21 08:42
#158
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United States arandomguy 
Okay Flukence fan.
2019-07-21 09:24
#194
allu | 
Finland eer0 
damn u toxic
2019-07-21 10:31
#235
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United States arandomguy 
as if everyone in hltv is being nice. 90% of the users here are trying to bait,insult and create useless threads. Nothing makes sense in HLTV. If you want someone to be nice then this is not the site for you.
2019-07-21 11:44
i feel like rn its more elige > everyone on ENCE twistzz > everyone on ENCE except sergej, they about equal NAF =Twistzz Stewie2k > xseven & aleikseib & aerial allu & sergej > stewie2k Nitr0 about same as stewie except hes equal to aerial
2019-07-21 04:49
Yeah your comparisons are really bad. Twistzz is better than sergej, and Stewie and nitr0 are better than everyone except allu and sergej. Past those 2 players on Ence, the rest kind of fucking suck. 2019, top 20, big events: +----------+------+----------+------+--------+ | Player | Maps | K-D Diff | K/d | Rating | +----------+------+----------+------+--------+ | EliGE | 79 | +273 | 1.19 | 1.20 | +----------+------+----------+------+--------+ | Twistzz | 79 | +307 | 1.24 | 1.16 | +----------+------+----------+------+--------+ | NAF | 79 | +167 | 1.12 | 1.16 | +----------+------+----------+------+--------+ | sergej | 57 | +101 | 1.10 | 1.13 | +----------+------+----------+------+--------+ | allu | 57 | +140 | 1.15 | 1.09 | +----------+------+----------+------+--------+ | Stewie2K | 79 | +43 | 1.03 | 1.08 | +----------+------+----------+------+--------+ | nitr0 | 79 | +70 | 1.05 | 1.06 | +----------+------+----------+------+--------+ | Aerial | 57 | -43 | 0.96 | 1.03 | +----------+------+----------+------+--------+ | Aleksib | 57 | -59 | 0.94 | 1.01 | +----------+------+----------+------+--------+ | xseveN | 57 | -56 | 0.94 | 1.00 | +----------+------+----------+------+--------+
2019-07-21 07:12
maybe don't compare just stats dude. Pure skill wise i reckon sergej is closer to twistzz than you think
2019-07-21 07:49
I would even put him higher, time will show we still have the major
2019-07-21 08:49
+1
2019-07-21 11:41
+1 it's hltv so people just look at rating and go OMFG SO BAD PLAYER XDD SO BAD DISBAND KICK XDD
2019-07-21 15:42
#52
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United States the_dukes 
lol.... idiot elige and twistzzz are better than fatty French faggot.... and what do ence have... fluke?.... cry is for free finished finnish
2019-07-21 04:52
flag,flair and account age check out
2019-07-21 04:56
+1
2019-07-21 15:42
#199
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Romania kr1tex 
Never, iq checks out
2019-07-21 10:36
#200
allu | 
Finland eer0 
liquid fans kinda salty
2019-07-21 10:37
+1
2019-07-21 15:42
#196
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Romania kr1tex 
+1
2019-07-21 10:31
+1 but zywoo want 1v5 liquid
2019-07-21 15:42
#36
India h8or 
First
2019-07-21 04:22
Nt
2019-07-21 04:59
#47
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United States ferric 
i dont understand the logic... we feel less comfortable trying to counter 1 superstar top tier player in the world so we'd rather attempt to counter 5 superstar top tier players in the world?
2019-07-21 04:45
#51
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Portugal mando1ms 
Zywoo is not superstar top tier player... he is the best in the world. He is an awper and can outaim everyone on liquid.
2019-07-21 04:52
#53
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United States arandomguy 
Best in the world my ass......s1mple is better than him Zywoo still has some catching up to do before he becomes best in the world
2019-07-21 04:56
#58
NBK- | 
South Africa nimmaJ 
Better stats, more MVPs, more maps, more trophies. Zywoo has been better in 2019
2019-07-21 05:03
he played much more events than s1mple.. would s1mple play some of these tier2 events he would have it too... comeon dude i love to watch zywoo and probably he s the next nr. 1 but not now, he will have his chance at the major
2019-07-21 07:06
#138
NBK- | 
South Africa nimmaJ 
Zywoo has better stats vs top 5 teams by a noticeable margain hltv.org/stats/players?startDate=2019-01.. Nt tho.
2019-07-21 08:24
#203
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Romania kr1tex 
People don't care, they heard others say same generic shit like "Zywoo isnt n.1 but will be soon" even tho he's already clearly the best.
2019-07-21 10:38
Where was zywoo at the katowice major this year? while s1mple was droping 90bombs in the semi finals against Ence? do u have watched the battle on Mirage? Dat was the real s1mple.. im sure he will show it to everyone again.. he was really unlucky the last time like esl cologne
2019-07-21 17:01
#336
NBK- | 
South Africa nimmaJ 
Why are you using a single event to differentiate the players? Zywoo has had a more successful year overall. Were discussing 2019, not Katowice specifically. "I'm sure he will" is called speculation. If you have to speculate to determine if a player is better hes probably not.
2019-07-21 18:53
because its the most important event for every pro player? they probably enjoy more to play at cologne but everyone wants a fking major win in his carrier. Every toptier1 team is playing majors.. the other events are some teams skiping like astralis and navi did.. So if u want to talk about the best player u cant ignore the fact we didnt saw zywoo performing well at any major yet.. time will show
2019-07-21 19:07
#389
NBK- | 
South Africa nimmaJ 
But a major is still only 1 event, it doesn't outweigh the rest of the year, theres just slightly more weight given to it than other tournaments and pretty much the entire scene agreed ESL One Cologne = major whether it has Valve involved or not. Zywoo has had a better 2019, more MVPs better stats more trophies. Cant think of a single year where a player with all 3 of those things wasnt ranked higher. You can keep being delusional but I'll look at the facts.
2019-07-21 23:25
Lets be honest here. s1mples literally ONLY played in Tier2 tournaments this entire year with the exception of Cologne. 1 MVP from StarSeries where he beat shitnatic in a final. Yup, great T1 tournament
2019-07-21 12:21
s1mple is still the best, EliGE is just carrying flukuid in #2 and Zyw0o is an upcoming talent, diferent from botwistzz
2019-07-21 07:03
#116
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United States arandomguy 
Did you even read my comment?
2019-07-21 07:22
s1mple skill>zywoo but zywoo smarter than s1mple
2019-07-21 12:36
#290
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United States arandomguy 
+1
2019-07-21 14:11
#59
NBK- | 
South Africa nimmaJ 
They specifically mentioned AWPing which no one on Liquid does at even a top 5 level consistenty meanwhile zywoo is having one of the highest peaks of any AWPer ever.
2019-07-21 05:04
Keep in mind that Vitality are very good at anti-stratting and ENCE are susceptible to that. Liquid basically play their own game, which plays to ENCE's favor.
2019-07-21 06:35
Its simple logic. Liquid play more structure cs like astralis. All of them can become star but most of the time they win with their good teamworks. Meanwhile vita and navi play with loose style for their star player. Zywoo can be roaming to any spot in the map. Good in clutch situation. Liquid once said they having difficult match with zywoo. But they mention that they have find a way to shut down team that play like navi and vita. And ence didnt have that. They probably more comfortable to play with team like liquid.
2019-07-21 06:37
He ment they have problems specifically vs vitality
2019-07-21 10:02
Nor do they know how to counter anyone on liquid, ?.
2019-07-21 04:50
yep. liquid > zywoo tbh
2019-07-21 07:00
#207
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Romania kr1tex 
Oh wow, and entire team > one French boi, liquid can be proud
2019-07-21 10:40
very proud. #1 in the world baby. how does #2 feel?
2019-07-21 20:21
#355
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Romania kr1tex 
How is that related to what I said? I feel like if liquid gang bang your mother you'll say "they're top 1 baby".
2019-07-21 20:23
"liquid can be proud" -> "very proud" -> "so proud, because we are #1" -> "oh shit, you're #2, how's that feel?" In America, we call that "casual advancement of a conversation" we learn that through social skills. might be lacking in your little Romania of a bubble.
2019-07-21 20:27
#362
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Romania kr1tex 
That's called manipulation, I said "are u proud that your entire best team is better than one guy" and u said "their top1 and vitality is top2" that's unrelated to my comment, go get a brain
2019-07-21 20:29
LOL you forgetting the first part of that sentence? I said "yes, very proud." who's manipulating who? get owned pea brain. ITS THE BURGER ERA BITCHES. GET OVER IT. LIQUID #1 HAHAHAHAHA VITALITY WILL NEVER BE #1 HAHAHAHA
2019-07-21 20:34
and yes, I would say that if they gang banged my mother.
2019-07-21 20:28
#364
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Romania kr1tex 
Well, I guess this conversation is over then.
2019-07-21 20:31
far from it pea brain
2019-07-21 20:34
#60
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Denmark Zorrondo 
so many salty liquid fangirls LUL deal with it kids, TL isn't a scary team.
2019-07-21 05:04
#208
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Romania kr1tex 
+1
2019-07-21 10:40
LOOOOL
2019-07-22 16:39
#63
 | 
United States stephcurry30 
liquid has 5 zywoos gl
2019-07-21 05:16
#91
ALEX | 
France MrWowo 
No
2019-07-21 05:37
+1 let those NA guys say shit every time liquod reachs a grandfinal
2019-07-21 07:00
welp... they are winning all those finals Liquid >>>> ENCE
2019-07-21 09:05
#211
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Romania kr1tex 
No, not even close, the only player close to Zywoo is simple.
2019-07-21 10:41
the only player close to s1mple is zywoo*
2019-07-21 12:38
#281
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United States the_dukes 
why you French faggots are soo stupid with your comments.... I think you don't know English or you are an asshole who still thinks that zywoo is better than s1mple.... zywoo played good only at ecs and elsewhere he was doing OK but look at s1mple he is always the top fragger in the server..... liquid vs Navi s1mple got 84 kills where else in yesterday's liquid vs vitality zywoo was -4..... so stop making zywoo soo overrated and accept the fact that S1MPLE IS SOOO FAR BETTER THAN ZYWHO
2019-07-21 13:50
#284
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Romania kr1tex 
Why u burger retards assume all vitality fans are franch? "he only played good at Ecs, elsewhere he was OK" Esl one Cologne 1.3+ rating "OK", s1mple was playing on this tournament as well and yet Zywoo got the MVP even tho his team lost.
2019-07-21 14:03
why do you assume we're all burger retards? lol. i'm pretty sure i'd whoop that scrawny romanian ass. and what language are you speaking? ohhhh, right.
2019-07-21 20:23
#358
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Romania kr1tex 
What is your hight and weight bro I doubt you'd be able to "whoop my ass".
2019-07-21 20:25
#285
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Romania kr1tex 
"s1mple scored 84 kills against liquid and Zywoo didnt" surely that's how it works, who cares about statistics and MVP awards
2019-07-21 14:06
outperformed s1mple once 10iq zywoo fans: He'S BeTtEr ThAn s1MpLe
2019-07-21 15:54
#369
ZywOo | 
France Qaze 
So mad ahaha. Zywoo top 1 2019 deal with it
2019-07-21 20:39
Naf and twist both said in their after game talks that ENCE is someone they feared or did not want to play the most. It could be because they just really did not study them, but I would not take it lightly though. I do think Liquid is the better team all around but who knows.
2019-07-21 05:37
Liquid vs ENCE matches have always been pretty dope, it's a little weird too. I agree that Liquid is the better team, just hope for a great final.
2019-07-21 08:13
Overall Liquid is better than Vitality and better than Ence. What Aerial said still makes sense.
2019-07-21 08:16
#139
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North America noahB_ 
Idk man, I'd still say if I was a statistician making odds, I'd give ence better odds at beating vitality in bo5 than beating liquid in one. Maybe it's just a mental factor of them being scared of zywoo...
2019-07-21 08:27
No way ence wins a bo5 vs them lol
2019-07-21 10:02
GEOMCNASTY?! YOU REMEMBER ADN OR KFX FROM 1.6?!?!
2019-07-21 20:24
Yes, why? lol
2019-07-22 02:40
lucky for ence Free runner up
2019-07-21 05:38
AERIAL: "WE DON'T KNOW THIS DETAILS"
2019-07-21 06:01
Details: ZywOo go kill.
2019-07-21 09:58
LUL burgers so mad
2019-07-21 06:27
#214
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Romania kr1tex 
+1
2019-07-21 10:43
+1 yeah Idk why NA people get so angry so easily
2019-07-21 15:40
#102
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United States @FyreCS 
Still beyond f***** tomorrow; no chance against GOAT TWISTZZ! #letsgoliquid
2019-07-21 06:44
They only have Leaf type pokemons cuz Zyw0o is on fire. Im sorry.
2019-07-21 06:59
You can't dodge Liquid though... and can't counter them neither.
2019-07-21 07:05
u have to respect and fear allah zywOo
2019-07-21 07:16
I will be surprised if you guys can win a map against Liquid. Honestly.
2019-07-21 07:19
No way
2019-07-21 09:36
Well said
2019-07-22 12:23
Very well said
2019-08-16 03:44
#117
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Indonesia Exodd 
With that mentality, I’m sure ENCE won’t be able to beat Liquid
2019-07-21 07:27
Ence knows liquid more than vitality thats why they would rather play against liquid
2019-07-21 08:02
Real champions don’t chose opponents
2019-07-21 09:07
Wdym how can u choose opponent
2019-07-22 18:18
Not gonna bother explaining...
2019-07-22 18:39
Ok but like how can you even choose ur opponent it doesnt make sense
2019-07-23 19:19
+1
2019-07-21 08:42
#118
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Indonesia tsokai 
Pussy
2019-07-21 07:45
#119
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Indonesia tsokai 
Cat
2019-07-21 07:45
#219
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Korea ItsMeNow19 
Indog
2019-07-21 10:48
#220
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Korea ItsMeNow19 
Dog
2019-07-21 10:49
#221
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Korea ItsMeNow19 
Indog dog actually
2019-07-21 10:49
#415
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Indonesia Exodd 
Racist dog eater
2019-07-22 04:20
hahaha brazil will beat the zywoo 100% we strong
2019-07-21 07:56
LOL best joke of 2019
2019-07-21 20:29
They struggled against MiBR and their run on major was lucky af, another ez trophy for Liquid
2019-07-21 08:44
#147
s1 | 
Armenia gr1nch 
Atleast they are honest
2019-07-21 09:03
So many salty Liquid fans
2019-07-21 09:17
HAHAHA first
2019-07-21 09:19
liquid fans can’t stand the fact that liquids playstyle just suit better for ence :D it doesn’t take anything out of liquid?
2019-07-21 09:27
NA brain users cant comprehend this so don't even try lmao
2019-07-21 10:05
Liquid fangirls: Remember Major? Liquid is EZ -)
2019-07-21 09:28
#167
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Finland JHdash77 
Vitality was the problem! -Vitality +suNny ENCE top 1
2019-07-21 09:35
#168
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Latvia tibr0 
lmao scared //
2019-07-21 09:35
#170
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Japan Johnny_Br@Vo 
It doesn't matter how good team is the team who play better on final day will be winner
2019-07-21 09:37
#172
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Brazil cadik 
zywoo >>>>> s0mple aka 0 impact
2019-07-21 09:45
#173
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Sweden ShageN 
0/8
2019-07-21 09:45
#216
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Romania kr1tex 
8/8
2019-07-21 10:44
#279
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United States the_dukes 
-8.... stop making zywoo sooo overrated he is not better than s1mple
2019-07-21 13:43
#280
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Romania kr1tex 
He is better tho
2019-07-21 13:49
aerial low iq aimer.
2019-07-21 09:47
so, how much did zywoo pay for this interview? :D
2019-07-21 09:56
Aerial wanted him to feel good so next time he will overthink will play worse
2019-07-21 15:46
people so mad lul
2019-07-21 10:39
#215
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Romania kr1tex 
Aerial what a god, triggered all burgers of hltv
2019-07-21 10:44
what kind of stupid motherfucker admits their weakness vs another team before they play them in a final
2019-07-21 10:48
#224
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Finland Karppanator 
Aerial only admitted a well-known fact, Renegades was kryptonite to ENCE before Vitality and they still haven't beat Vitality to this day.
2019-07-21 11:01
#226
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Other Fru!ty 
Don't worry cuz it was so fckin EZ for Liquid to beat them. Ezpz 2-0
2019-07-21 11:12
#227
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United States n3h 
Zywoo gotta be most overrated player. Cant even go positive in bo3 with liquid. hltv.org/matches/2334925/liquid-vs-vital..
2019-07-21 11:12
#228
Aleksib | 
Finland Emvi 
LOL, burgers have been on top for 1 month and now look at them. Low iq malding and not understanding vitality has railed ence every time, unlike liquid
2019-07-21 11:19
#231
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Czech Republic fykseN1g 
+1
2019-07-21 11:34
meanwhile look at true top 1 hltv.org/matches/2334600/natus-vincere-v..
2019-07-21 12:43
+1000IQ! Ence railed liquid at major.
2019-07-21 14:52
#236
s1mple | 
China fu22Y 
LUL expected comments from burger brains
2019-07-21 11:46
difficult to counter best player in the world
2019-07-21 11:47
nope , liq easily counter s1mple almost every time
2019-07-21 12:44
#277
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United States the_dukes 
but s1mple is not attending iem chicago
2019-07-21 13:40
#250
s1mple | 
Germany NatsuS 
Ence has proven. Vitality is Zywoo. But compared to Navi there is no second one that is good enough for tier 1 level.
2019-07-21 12:22
#255
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Finland Faust_fSt 
If Striker wrote a less shitty headline for this article, people wouldn't have misunderstood this so hard.
2019-07-21 12:36
+1, hyping zywoo too much
2019-07-21 12:55
#266
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Finland Faust_fSt 
More like leading the reader to think that Aerial was referring to the final opponent, and not making it out of the groups. I'm pretty sure he means they rather played Heroic than Vitality.
2019-07-21 12:56
Hahahaha you cant beat zywhoo?? And you will more scared of s1mple csgod too on starseries hahahaha
2019-07-21 13:26
#273
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Egypt Tywin 
Liquid? More like triggered lmao
2019-07-21 13:30
ENCE WIN MIRAGE LIQUID GET 15 ROUND ON INFERNO ENCE COMEBACK
2019-07-21 13:35
#278
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Canada thelegend27 
wtf mate this is clickbaot
2019-07-21 13:43
#283
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United States the_dukes 
why you French faggots are soo stupid with your comments.... I think you don't understand English or you are an assholes who still thinks that zywoo is better than s1mple.... zywoo played good only at ecs and elsewhere he was doing OK but look at s1mple he is always the top fragger in the server..... liquid vs Navi s1mple got 84 kills where else in yesterday's liquid vs vitality zywoo was -4..... so stop making zywoo soo overrated and accept the fact that S1MPLE IS SOOO FAR BETTER THAN ZYWHO
2019-07-21 13:54
yes. Zywoo played one bo3 with stats under 0. So did S1mple against Astralis. whats ur point?
2019-07-21 14:06
That's why he got MVP in Cologne and not s1mple. You said stupid?
2019-07-21 14:07
zywoo played good only at ecs Cologne MVP NA brain :DDDD
2019-07-21 15:40
LOOOOOOOOOOOL NA Brain xD
2019-07-21 16:42
Still mad that elige or twistzz didn't get cologne MVP :^)?
2019-07-21 16:43
no, we got gold and a million dollars. oh and that extra 125k $$$$$$$$$$ cry over this shit while we win trophies, and take all your money bahahahaha
2019-07-21 20:37
>Sprain >Lot's of money kkkkkkkkk
2019-07-21 20:52
huh? english, motherfucker, do you speak it?
2019-07-21 21:06
#436
Olivia | 
Austria SplasJ 
Sprain lol
2019-07-22 14:19
Sprain KKKKK
2019-08-16 03:42
#306
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France iNolake 
Lmao Na brain
2019-07-21 15:41
#293
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Belgium azertyuio 
They prefer to face Liquid which is relatively easy to read rather than sneaky Vitality . Even if Liquid is a stronger team overall.
2019-07-21 14:28
They don’t know how to counter Liquid as well lol. EZ win for Liquid, best team in the world.
2019-07-21 14:51
I'm getting braincancer from plebs who didnt either A. read the whole interview or B. didn't understand Aerial's point.
2019-07-21 15:44
"who didn't B. Didn't understand Aerial's point" So you have something against people who understood Aerial's point? Alright buddy
2019-07-21 18:12
#435
Olivia | 
Austria SplasJ 
Didnt either Didnt understand :D lol
2019-07-22 14:17
Sureeee, ez4ence against liquid then... P
2019-07-21 15:48
#334
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United States jay_320 
Countering a dynamic AWPer can absolutely be a huge challenge. But Ence is stupid for wanting to play Liquid over Vitality. Liquid is clearly not the same team they were in Dallas last time they met and Liquid still won then. That's back when they still had some choke left in them. The only thing that's going to take down Liquid at this point is overconfidence or some brilliant anti-strating. The latter is going to be extremely hard in a BO5.
2019-07-21 18:29
#359
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Finland dokudanny 
aerial what an absolute mad man. ggwp
2019-07-21 20:26
#384
Olivia | 
Austria SplasJ 
Hahaha now getting fucked 3-0 by liquid lmao
2019-07-21 22:24
#414
Xyp9x | 
Cyprus Xeeh 
Dodging vitality really worked out well for them Dumbest thing to say ever. 0-3 with only 5 rounds in the first 2 maps lmao
2019-07-22 04:10
#385
jks | 
Australia Chocpong 
This aged well.. Dodged them for the 14-1 first half.
2019-07-21 22:33
He has the regret that comment now...liquid have at least 2 players in my opinion that are better than zywoo
2019-07-21 22:33
This, when you are disrespect liquid. 16-2 so far. Hope ence still feel relieved.
2019-07-21 22:43
Disrespect?? Aerial just said that they kniw liquid more than vitality so liquid is easier for them also they havent won vitality ever
2019-07-26 09:26
#388
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Brazil panico1910 
"We have always been struggling against Vitality, we can't beat them, we don't know how to counter ZywOo" This phrase he said meant "let's underrate on Liquid's team and exalt a single guy" Aerial it seems you guys don't know how to struggle against Liquid, can't beat them and don't know how to counter all the Liquid's Team as well. LOL
2019-07-21 23:22
5 ROUNDS IN 2 MAPS LUL
2019-07-21 23:34
ZywOo is the problem for us, he's always shutting us down and Liquid doesn't have that kind of player - they are really good players, but not an AWPer like ZywOo there, that makes it easier for us.
2019-07-21 23:52
haha Liquid taking a shit on ENCE
2019-07-22 00:09
#395
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Finland Karppanator 
The Finn also commented on the Vitality matchup and what makes it difficult, as well as a potential rematch from the DreamHack Masters Dallas grand final against Liquid: And all of NA reading comprehension skills are at full display
2019-07-22 00:10
#411
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United States SilveryoHD 
cry is free
2019-07-22 01:19
#434
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Brazil LUIXTR0NDA 
u mad?
2019-07-22 13:51
ZywOo is the problem for us, he's always shutting us down and Liquid doesn't have that kind of player - they are really good players, but not an AWPer like ZywOo there, that makes it easier for us.
2019-07-22 00:11
#401
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Czech Republic wonderhead 
ZywOo is the problem for us, he's always shutting us down and Liquid doesn't have that kind of player - they are really good players, but not an AWPer like ZywOo there, that makes it easier for us.
2019-07-22 00:28
ZywOo is the problem for us, he's always shutting us down and Liquid doesn't have that kind of player - they are really good players, but not an AWPer like ZywOo there, that makes it easier for us.
2019-07-22 01:03
ZywOo is the problem for us, he's always shutting us down and Liquid doesn't have that kind of player - they are really good players, but not an AWPer like ZywOo there, that makes it easier for us.
2019-07-22 01:05
#409
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United States SilveryoHD 
LULUULULULULLULULULULULULULULULULLULULULU ZywOo is the problem for us, he's always shutting us down and Liquid doesn't have that kind of player - they are really good players, but not an AWPer like ZywOo there, that makes it easier for us. elige +35
2019-07-22 01:19
ZywOo is the problem for us, he's always shutting us down and Liquid doesn't have that kind of player - they are really good players, but not an AWPer like ZywOo there, that makes it easier for us. ez like 2-16with 2 pistol rounds and 3-16 with a total 0-3
2019-07-22 01:19
#412
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United States flybywire12 
Lol
2019-07-22 02:04
#416
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Brazil Vini007 
ZywOo is the problem for us, he's always shutting us down and Liquid doesn't have that kind of player - they are really good players, but not an AWPer like ZywOo there, that makes it easier for us.
2019-07-22 04:23
Nt Jani
2019-07-22 04:52
This did not age very well
2019-07-22 08:49
ZywOo is the problem for us, he's always shutting us down and Liquid doesn't have that kind of player - they are really good players, but not an AWPer like ZywOo there, that makes it easier for us.
2019-07-22 10:01
Can HLTV staff do us a favour and never lock this comment section? I want to come back here in 2 years and laugh more
2019-07-22 12:20
#432
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Czech Republic fykseN1g 
poeple actually can't comprehend a simple text
2019-07-22 13:10
#439
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Europe tweekzter 
He was relieved to not face zywoo. They thought they have better chances against Team Liquid. They got destroyed. They also seemed extremely nervous. The crowd was not helping in that regard. They are not used not to be the crowds darling. Plus Aerial got knifed. Karma! :D
2019-07-22 16:54
Wdym aerial wasnt toxic
2019-07-26 09:23
Its a fact that ence plays better against liquid usually than against vitality
2019-07-26 09:24
#460
device | 
United States Lazerz 
its a fact that both liquid and vitality are ence's daddies
2019-08-16 03:48
#452
NAF | 
Canada 14nmLUL 
axaxaxaaxaxaxaaxaxaxaaxaxaxaaxaxaxaaxaxaxa
2019-08-12 10:30
ooooo?
2019-08-12 10:30
#454
NAF | 
Canada 14nmLUL 
16-2 with two pistols OOOOOOOF
2019-08-12 12:38
Please don't lock this comment section
2019-08-16 03:41
you want it locked dont you
2019-08-16 03:43
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