ALEX: "The only thing that's going to stop Liquid is the player break, hope they drop off a bit because it's ridiculous"

Our last interview from IEM Chicago is with Alex "ALEX" McMeekin, whose Vitality fell to Liquid in the semi-finals of the tournament.

After narrowly beating Heroic in Cologne, Vitality faced off against the Danish side twice more over the course of the IEM Chicago group stage, losing to them in the opening round before taking their revenge in the deciding series. That set them up for a rematch against Liquid, who secured a second consecutive victory against the French team following a convincing semi-final showing.

ALEX gave us some examples of what it's like to face Liquid

ALEX's team came by the press area on the final day of the event and we grabbed the in-game leader to talk about Vitality's newly-established rivalry with Heroic as well as some of their recent struggles on their go-to map, Dust2, and to get his point of view on what it's like to play against Liquid at the moment.

First of all, you had problems against Heroic in the opener of the tournament and you also had a close game against them in Cologne, how did you approach that matchup the third time around?

I don't think we did anything special. We rewatched the game we played against them in the first game of the group stage and noticed that blameF has quite a few tendencies, he likes to do the same things quite a lot, so we tried to play on him and kill him. Especially on T sides on Mirage, he was always lurking somewhere like top mid, so we were making sure we wouldn't get killed by him because in the previous games he came behind us constantly, killing one or two of us, so I think that was the only thing we really prepared for them because we knew how they were going to play, we played them quite a lot recently.

Can you comment on what happened in the veto in that series, where you banned Train as opposed to Mirage?

(laughs) Basically, Train being our permaban, Nathan just went into the veto and was like 'yep, ban Train' and then remembered that we were playing Heroic and that we weren't supposed to ban Train. But I guess it worked out in the end, since we beat them on Mirage.

You've prioritized Dust2 a lot over the last few tournaments, but it hasn't gone too well recently, here you lost it to Heroic, then to Liquid, also to NiP in the opening game in Cologne. Why do you think you haven't been very consistent on the map?

I'm not sure how consistent a team can be on Dust2 because everyone knows the map through and through, nothing much has changed on it over the years. Everyone knows everything you can do on the map, but I don't think it has anything to do with actual tactics, it's more about how we are in the game. That's what we've struggled with and it's not just on Dust2, the Overpass game we lost against North in the opening game at DreamHack Dallas, we were up 14-8... and constantly, games like this where we just switch off or we don't get into it at all. There's always a moment where something goes wrong.

Maybe we lack energy to find our way back into the game, I'm not sure. I don't think it was a problem we had at the start of the season, we usually started well and were winning. I don't think it's map-based. Liquid, obviously, is a totally different thing, no one can beat Liquid now, they're just too good. I think the only thing that's going to stop them right now is the player break and hope they drop off a bit (smirks) because it's ridiculous.

Considering what you said about the map, what makes you prefer Dust2 so much, then?

Just because we feel good on it. We have everything down and I think recently — because we have no time to practice, I think we played about three practice games in about a month or something, we literally haven't practiced — it's just that we play it in some games and I don't remember who we smashed on it in one of the tournaments, we just felt good on it, and we smashed Renegades on it here. We just felt comfortable on it, everyone was feeling good about it, it was a map that we usually play high tempo on, which means that everyone's getting straight into the game, comms are flying and everyone is involved.

In the game against Liquid, we had like zero A long spawns, which was what we were kind of relying on to try and beat them. I think we had one, but it was just at a point where we couldn't take it anymore because we didn't have the money or something. So yeah, we like the map, the French scene has obviously been really good on it in the past, G2 are really good on it now, we're really good on it, I just think it's down to external factors, not just the map.

Speaking about Liquid, NBK commented on them on Twitter saying how scary it is to face them at this point, what is it that makes it so difficult to play against them perhaps outside of just raw skill, which is something that everyone talks about?

I don't think they're scary, I don't mind playing them, it's just too hard recently. I will forever remember the example on Dust2 in the Cologne final, I came up short behind two of them and I started shooting two bullets and I hit him once, it was nitr0, and he just turns around and one-taps me. That's literally how it is with them. At the moment, that's what it is, it's skill, they're not doing anything special, they're not doing anything new, they don't have the best teamplay like Astralis had when they were good. They're just too good at the game itself. Twistzz ran from mid doors to get a weapon and dinged two of us on the way with a CZ whilst running, there's nothing you can do.

United Kingdom Alex 'ALEX' McMeekin
Alex 'ALEX' McMeekin
Age:
23
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.01
Maps played:
866
KPR:
0.71
DPR:
0.71
APR:
0.13
wow
2019-07-24 00:46
#3
TeSeS | 
Finland gassed 
liquid is good
2019-07-24 00:46
#7
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Sweden Unluko 
Agreed
2019-07-24 00:47
ALEX should as kDavid Cameron for some extra spicy strats
2019-07-24 00:51
#51
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United Kingdom OneBinG_ 
I mean he’s not got anything on - he’s been unemployed for the last 9 years
2019-07-24 01:13
Exactly, David_Cameron_1_major_s1mple_0_major
2019-07-24 01:38
#110
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United Kingdom OneBinG_ 
David_Cameron_1_Brexit_s1mple_0_Brexit
2019-07-24 02:27
I will forever remember the example on Dust2 in the Cologne final, I came up short behind two of them and I started shooting two bullets and I hit him once, it was nitr0, and he just turns around and one-taps me. That's literally how it is with Liquid. Alex "ALEX" McMeekin Maybe just get good UK brain
2019-07-24 05:53
+1 They suck individually and "liquid are too good aimers" well train your aim , its not all tactics after all. "Im behind and i cant hit my shots , they're too gud". If it was all about aim (thats how he makes it look like) , just put niko , s1mple , coldzera , zywoo in the same team. Aim matters as well tho , just some people are too busy to practice looks like.
2019-07-24 14:25
+1 ALEX makes it look like Liquid were some braindeads who can only aim well, which is BS. Ofc they don't have as sophisticated strategies as Astralis had but they still are good at all the standard executions and have intelligent mid-round calls. Also, Liquid have a very high "role-flexibility", nearly everyone can play everywhere. It's not Liquids fault that ALEX does not hit the easiest shots.
2019-07-24 14:51
#288
ZywOo | 
Europe PowwneD 
Astralis were close to Liquid in term of firepower but they were better tacticaly that's just what he said They have basic strats but insane aim so they are the best atm
2019-07-25 08:16
Good to see that you're not biased Vitality fanboy and you can actually use you brain rather than talking how "vitality have good players". Nah they have 1 hard carry and 4 inconsistent players that avoid practicing their aim and use excuses like "omg they're too good individuals" - Nah you're just lazy fck. Liquid is good team with good chemistry , tactic book and teamplay. Maybe not as good as Astralis as you said , but it's definitely not "all random aim" , also all of them are fragging well , unlike Vitality for example - Zywoo 70 kills , nbk 41 , apex 39 , alex - 27 , rpk - 17. Ofc they're good aimers , but also understand the game and make each other feel comfortable. If all 5 players feel comfortable - easy game. And making everyone feel comfortable is part of their tactics/setups.
2019-07-25 22:51
#9
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Palestine Baitor69 
0/8
2019-07-24 00:47
#19
flusha | 
United States k3ar 
Perhaps
2019-07-24 00:52
#21
f0rest | 
Sweden Jnordz 
Don't worry Alex, vitality is shit anyway, biggest fluke team with hardcarry zywoo, liquid can drop of and still sweep the floor with vitality imo.. One man army can't win shit except for fluke esc
2019-07-24 00:52
If its all a fucking fluke it must be one hell of a fucking fluke, accidentally wining cs_summit, ecs, and making cologne finals, being the #2 team for now 2 weeks, and being in the top 5 for over a month....
2019-07-24 09:06
#198
suNny | 
Finland jakem0n 
+1
2019-07-24 10:03
+1
2019-07-24 10:22
+1
2019-07-24 12:32
Scene is dead. Wait for the major. Vitality have 4 nabs and 1 good player that carry them. Reminds me of NaVi but at least navi have electronic and boombich as well
2019-07-24 14:27
#260
kennyS | 
Belgium Huban 
Don't chat shit if you don't know shit. Yes Zywoo is a god and often carries them, but you can clearly see that the whole team has been stepping up, with players like Alex or Rpk with horrible stats in the past actually doing stuff, and NBK and Apex sometimes having amazing games (just a little inconsistent). And please dude, don't talk about a "Dead scene" if you're from bloody Australia
2019-07-24 16:34
You are litterally one of the only people who think that, its the opposite, everybody saying that the french scene is back, vitality have been really consistent, G2 have been consistent too lately except for chicago which was kind of unfortunate as they didnt really show up that day, like you said we'll see the major
2019-07-24 16:45
#289
ZywOo | 
Europe PowwneD 
French scene is back boyzzzzz Other scenes can cry as much as they want
2019-07-25 08:19
#289
ZywOo | 
Europe PowwneD 
French scene is back boyzzzzz Other scenes can cry as much as they want
2019-07-25 08:19
"Literally the one of the only ppl...blablabla" Nah , the whole world knows Vitality sucks. As i can see only you and some Belgian (little france) defend Vitality.
2019-07-25 22:45
Keep feelig salty because they bet astralis and #2 team in the world bro, cry is free, btw kind of funny you talking about dead scenes when your country doesnt even have one
2019-07-25 23:24
zywho is talking?
2019-07-27 01:37
Your come back is as cringe and pathetic as shitty app store games where they show their "mom" vs their "dad" score
2019-07-27 12:46
And this is coming from a NiP fan, the team that fluked all their tournament wins since 2016 and called it "NiP magic"
2019-07-24 10:31
+10000
2019-07-24 12:58
nailed it +1
2019-07-24 15:05
#153
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Philippines Eclipsa 
too good. Just because of the break astralis had.
2019-07-24 06:11
+1
2019-08-01 18:01
#8
cR4zY | 
Myanmar xdcc 
global warming will raise liquid levels.
2019-07-24 00:47
you cant argue with that
2019-07-24 00:59
#44
cR4zY | 
Myanmar xdcc 
unless youre trump administration)
2019-07-24 01:10
not really trump thinks humans have little to do with it and there are no realistic proposals to solve the so called problem. but the USA was the only developed country to significantly reduce co2 emissions since trump is elected while everyone including EU has increased a lot. thank you
2019-07-24 02:36
#145
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United States G0ingInsqne 
+1111111111111
2019-07-24 05:07
Lol Realy realy not true. But here is not the place to argue about that... in 2018 raised by 3.4 %.15% of the world CO2 emission are from the states. Don't bullshit us please
2019-07-24 08:50
Ive never read that much bullshit lmao, wtf, did you just decide this? Im not too sure how you actaully think this, america hasn't done jack shit
2019-07-24 09:17
Brainwashed?
2019-07-24 09:40
#200
suNny | 
Finland jakem0n 
What do you expect? :D
2019-07-24 10:04
hahaha american propaganda at its best EU is far ahead of reducing co2 emissions compared to NA
2019-07-24 10:10
dude i hope your are baiting
2019-07-24 12:00
#244
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India MihirX27 
Please ask Trump to make Lighter Automobiles go Internal Combustion free by 2027 already. We're doing it by 2024, and it would suck for you, if India goes ahead of USA for a change.
2019-07-24 15:00
+1
2019-07-24 15:12
How about let the market decide, i prefer gas cars, thanks
2019-07-24 20:04
+1
2019-08-01 18:02
#291
ZywOo | 
Europe PowwneD 
India, you are the only hope in this world rn
2019-07-25 08:21
The drop in co2 emissions under Trump is a continuation effect from Obama era policies. Trump’s activities have slowed the decline in co2 emissions compared to the previous administration. It’s a cherry picked fact to say co2 has dropped and then say Trump is the reason. He’s rolling back environmental protections. In four years the trend under his administration will be that he slowed the drop in co2 emissions that had already been taking place prior to his election. More info here : politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/..
2019-07-24 17:18
Now we finally know how liquid stopped choking and started choking other people
2019-07-24 01:27
#151
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Indonesia rareguy 
+1
2019-07-24 06:04
insane!
2019-07-24 16:24
#2
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Norway CheNaLii 
POG
2019-07-24 00:46
#23
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Other zj2 
imagine being pro player and writing this shit... also this is the same guy who asked to revert AUG nerf xDDDDDDDD
2019-07-24 00:53
#33
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Norway CheNaLii 
axaxaxaxaxaxaxaxa
2019-07-24 01:02
#37
flusha | 
United States k3ar 
He said they should either revert the AUG nerf or nerf the Krieg as well. You're fake news.
2019-07-24 01:03
+1
2019-07-24 01:27
#80
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Other zj2 
ye because AugLEX only plays AUG and cant learn krieg spray (im not even kidding)
2019-07-24 01:28
its because aug is significantly easier than krieg
2019-07-24 05:00
+1
2019-07-24 07:56
Haha ALEX is too bad to learn the Krieg spray.
2019-07-24 14:54
+1
2019-08-01 18:02
#4
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United States DervGuy 
N OMEGALUL P E
2019-07-24 00:46
#5
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United Kingdom VOSSKI 
don't worry, liquid won't win this upcoming major, they just can't
2019-07-24 00:46
Yeah , hope they choke haaard
2019-07-24 00:48
#26
flusha | 
United States k3ar 
wtf men)))
2019-07-24 00:57
Sorry men , I like liquid , but I can't stand Stewie since of lately
2019-07-24 12:14
#86
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Estonia sux3ss 
Exactly my thought, they will be easy 3-0 for sure but I think they won't make it past semis.
2019-07-24 01:32
#190
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Lithuania Sealll 
FlukENCE will stop them))
2019-07-24 09:28
NEO will hard carry faze!! 😁 VP always turned plow mode in majors, it must be the crowd and general feeling of majors. I vote faze for the win
2019-07-24 11:29
#277
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Poland rude_wredne 
virtus.throw
2019-07-24 22:54
#176
jkaem | 
Norway birbbI 
As much as I would like to say the Renegades are gonna win it’s pretty unlikely with the results past month. Team Liquid is definitely gonna make it to at least semis and have a good chance at winnning.
2019-07-24 08:27
#6
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Asia Go0re 
Liquid wont win major
2019-07-24 00:46
#17
cR4zY | 
Myanmar xdcc 
fnatic will
2019-07-24 00:51
There's a 'out in left field' option. I'd be surprised if fnatic makes it to quarterfinals. Best bets to final four at Liquid, Astralis, NaVi, and either Vitality or ENCE. Always seems an outside shot squeezes through in one of the slots. I'd wish NRG, but Fnatic is just as likely, I suppose.
2019-07-24 01:23
Yeah, I was going to mention them. They're looking pretty promising. They may well be that outside team that makes it like Cloud9 did.
2019-07-24 01:24
#70
cR4zY | 
Myanmar xdcc 
that was for major spot) fnatic RIP
2019-07-24 01:25
Oh.. oops. RIP. Now, I get the 'fnatic will' reference. :)
2019-07-24 01:26
#199
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United Kingdom apEx_is_BOT 
NA brain
2019-07-24 10:04
Considering I didn't follow the EU Minors, intelligence plays no part. Following a meme doesn't make you smart. It just shows you can't think for yourself.
2019-07-24 14:15
#101
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Greece SZN_Darth_A 
Even though fanatic lost the minor
2019-07-24 01:52
I didn't realize until above that they didn't make it.
2019-07-24 01:56
+1
2019-08-01 18:02
Everyone is busy counterstratting TL, and sneaky Astralis will come from behind and win ez. Astralis has had lots of time to come up with new tactical HE bombardments that will blow you up before you can say "USA"
2019-07-24 09:48
#10
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Europe Kermac 
Best london player!!!
2019-07-24 00:48
#11
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France d1no_cs 
DW Liquid will drop at Playoffs
2019-07-24 00:48
again talk shit about TL, next time vitaity will lose
2019-07-24 00:52
how is he talking shit?
2019-07-24 01:16
#59
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Brazil cleytonton 
Well, he compared the teamplay from Astralis.. said that they were better then TL
2019-07-24 01:21
#66
flusha | 
United States k3ar 
Cause he's right? Even though Liquid's team play is solid, it wasn't as good as Astralis'. No one's was. Liquid's firepower is better though, which is what he said in the article.
2019-07-24 01:24
#90
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Denmark sNju 
Don't expect a brazilian to actually be able to read or understand.
2019-07-24 01:39
#118
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France SmallJumP 
+999
2019-07-24 02:37
#159
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Brazil GrilO_O 
i like turtles
2019-07-24 06:53
#210
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Denmark sNju 
So do I. Especially when they are teenagers.
2019-07-24 10:24
#245
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India MihirX27 
Hol Up
2019-07-24 15:03
#281
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Denmark sNju 
Turtles... Teenagers.... Ninjas.... You want more clues?
2019-07-25 00:08
+1
2019-08-01 18:03
Astralis teamplay was smoke grenade
2019-07-24 01:51
#171
ZywOo | 
Europe PowwneD 
Ok Mr silverinho
2019-07-24 07:47
#247
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India MihirX27 
And HE grenade. They'd force feed their opponents the Nades.
2019-07-24 15:03
He was just speaking truth. Not saying anything bad about liquid
2019-07-24 01:27
He is not saying the truth about liquid's teamplay..
2019-07-24 01:49
#203
suNny | 
Finland jakem0n 
And you are not able to process the things you read in your little head.
2019-07-24 10:10
he was just using astralis as an example to highlight liquids strengths.. they have a totally different style hes not talking shit at all dude he literally said "its just too hard to play them recently" how can you not see that as a compliment?
2019-07-24 21:57
Lol what an idiot
2019-07-24 03:53
#14
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Spain akproxx 
That's literally how it is with them. At the moment, that's what it is, it's skill, they're not doing anything special, they're not doing anything new, they don't have the best teamplay like Astralis had when they were good. They're just too good at the game itself. This
2019-07-24 00:49
100%. At the same time, they are playing to their strengths so there is very little reason for them to adapt. They're a complete team (edit: and I think their playbook has more depth to it than what people think. They aren't just holding W and killing everyone).
2019-07-24 00:55
Their team play is great, but I'd say their skill outweighs it. Where with Astral is their skill was great but their team play outweighed it. Those Astral is nade stacks every round or every map were crazy to see. Airstrikes lol.
2019-07-24 01:03
I don't think TL's nade usage is that far off tbh, they are just more willing to commit to fights. I think Astralis were (are?) significantly better at anti-stratting and how it plays into their nade usage. Watch some of TL's force buys and watch how they get from their nade usage. ... Actually thought that was one of Stewie's greatest strengths when calling for C9. You see similar qualities on TL.
2019-07-24 01:10
I think this is the key for Astralis (anti-Stratting). They obviously researched their opponents and spent time looking for tendencies. It seemed they always had someone in exactly the right place to give them an opening kill. I got the impression it was their pre-game planning and and concentration on keeping up on the Meta that gave them the edge.
2019-07-24 01:31
+1
2019-08-01 18:03
Statistically-speaking, Liquids nades were better than anybody's except Astralis. They were pretty close in that aspect of the game.
2019-07-24 01:28
#96
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Denmark sNju 
But let's be honest, TL simply copied Astralis' plan. Not that there's anything wrong with IT, many other teams do. I hope Astralis have been holding back for all this time, waiting to pounce at the Major. They literally have nothing else that matters at the momemt, other than winning the most Major titles of all time.
2019-07-24 01:48
#161
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North America noahB_ 
i dont think theyve copied astralis' plan, liquid play much more lose, with almost "roleless" counterstrike, where any player can replace another one in some position
2019-07-24 07:00
#282
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Denmark sNju 
Loose 😉 the subject was nades, not their overall strategy.
2019-07-25 00:11
#194
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Denmark Fonder 
Astralis didnt hold anything back in cologne. They wanted that trophy, the trophy that all teams wants to hold. Imo vitality read astralis out in that semi. It was sad to be there and watch ....
2019-07-24 09:48
#206
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Denmark sNju 
I was there aswell, and a few Vitality players played the game of their life. They won't be able to put up that kind of performance again. I don't see Vitality as a thread to Astralis or Liquid. Not even close.
2019-07-24 10:20
#249
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India MihirX27 
It's not possible to copy Astralis fully. Liquid made their own tactics, especially with the NA OpTic-like AWP juggling, 3 uniquely different AWPers, and the 3 unique combinations you can have in a Double AWP setup.
2019-07-24 15:05
#283
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Denmark sNju 
Subject was nades. I meant they copied a lot of Astralis' nades.
2019-07-25 00:11
Their plays on D2 vs Vitality was the first time I saw what actively amounted to anti-strat tactics. They clearly had an idea of how to attack their CT side. The instant twistzz got to mid and hid next to the tank I knew they had actually prepared that play specifically for the match (because their usual style is to mimic the same outset attack and then execute their plan late-round, forcing teams to struggle to read the wind up).
2019-07-24 05:50
+1
2019-08-01 18:03
that's the reason they're more fun to watch than astralis.
2019-07-24 02:57
#236
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Spain akproxx 
For 14 years old casual players maybe
2019-07-24 14:02
Only kids talking about stranger age.
2019-07-28 19:37
#301
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Spain akproxx 
Hahaha
2019-07-29 13:06
I expect a delusional liquid fan saying this but not a pro. Wtf.
2019-07-24 00:49
How many times have you played against Liquid?
2019-07-24 10:35
#250
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India MihirX27 
Is it even possible for scrubs like us to get a chance to scrim against Liquid? I think that would be more than enough to learn a lot.
2019-07-24 15:06
I never played against liquid, why?
2019-07-24 15:51
How can you know how playing against them feels then?
2019-07-24 17:53
Your point?
2019-07-24 18:10
I already told you my point. Can you read properly, or are my expectations too high?
2019-07-24 18:53
I still expect a liquid fan saying that but not a pro
2019-07-24 19:48
Ok
2019-07-24 19:51
+1
2019-08-01 18:04
lmao
2019-07-24 00:49
#20
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Japan ehegao 
NBKing carry vitality Zywoo is a dead weight
2019-07-24 00:52
#29
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France Snabe_ 
ok colony boy :)
2019-07-24 00:59
#1 NBSnake fanboy Will literally fabricate achievements NBK never did.
2019-07-24 02:03
Nbsnake will try to kick apex after major as always
2019-07-24 07:52
And if you watch him playing, he deserves to be kicked.
2019-07-24 09:36
3 months ago people wanted to kick alex one month ago people wanted to kick rpk and now its apex The truth is that Vitality rely only on zywoo they will go down before end of the year because inside problem will arrive
2019-07-24 10:09
People wanted to kick ALEX because there were much better players skill-wise like AmaNEk. But they did get him because they wanted him to IGL instead of NBK, because as usual this guy has a big mouth and can't lead for more than 2months. apEX does so much shit from the start of this lineup, he overpeeks or does dumb plays 99% of the time. And the 1% is when he's one fire which happens very rarely, where he is on point with everything. It looks like he's not focused on the game at all. Maybe he has trouble focusing, it's actually a thing.
2019-07-24 12:02
Thats why shox didnt want nbk and apex anymore
2019-07-24 14:40
#256
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Turkey IlikeSausage 
Apex had that playstyle for a long time. no one was calling him dumb or stuff when his hyper aggressive playstyle worked. People are prepared for this playstyle now because he has found alot of success using it in 2017. So teams that are going up vitality know this since he used the same playstyle for 2 years. i dont think theres anything Apex can do about it the other teams are too prepared for it. And he can not switch his style since he was using it for a long time now if he switches that might make him feel uncomfortable and worse
2019-07-24 15:55
It's not just his style, I can't remember how many times I've seen him die like an idiot instead of buying time for his teammates to come in retakes situations. He's always dying doing weird shits. I don't know what his problem is, but it feels like a lack of focus for me. I remember one match where they lost and apEX did so many dumb moves (around 10 that cost them the round if no one does an exceptional play). And you're right, I've been saying that he's overrated for many years now, because of that.
2019-07-24 16:25
+1
2019-08-01 18:04
Zywoolity
2019-07-24 00:55
UKCS wants easier opponents LUL
2019-07-24 00:55
#28
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Sweden hallS!STAR! 
Talks like a Beta Male. Must be English!
2019-07-24 00:59
#98
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Denmark sNju 
Imagine taking English DNA and raising it in France. You're asking for the biggest cuck lord of all time 😂
2019-07-24 01:49
#187
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France PownyZ 
swedes and danes talks about beta mens ?
2019-07-24 09:14
#207
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Denmark sNju 
Descendants of fucking Vikings, what is your point? Don't you have a baguette that you have to go eat?
2019-07-24 10:21
Descendants of vikings but there's a 1000 year gap between you and them.
2019-07-24 10:37
#280
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Denmark sNju 
Your mom has a 1000 year gap
2019-07-25 00:06
That joke is really Alpha, dude.
2019-07-25 00:12
#286
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Denmark sNju 
Viking humor. Alpha af.
2019-07-25 00:28
#218
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France PownyZ 
haha keep lying to your self you went from vikings to vaginas
2019-07-24 10:43
LMAO
2019-07-24 19:53
#278
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Denmark sNju 
Exactly how? We're still tall, blonde, big beared alphas. A typical frog eater is a skinny black haired fashion f..... Or an immigrant.
2019-07-25 00:04
#292
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Moldova AJollyDoge 
When is the last time you ate raw meat and killed someone.
2019-07-25 14:23
#294
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Denmark sNju 
Well I just woke up, so I haven't had time yet today.
2019-07-25 20:06
+1
2019-08-01 18:04
Reading ALEX's take on TL, reminds me of the shaGuar (2004) quote: "I think it will always be America's curse to rely so heavily on raw individual skill rather than combining that with other aspects of the game that are as important such as teamplay and strats." NACS BestCS.
2019-07-24 01:00
Perhaps because until recently CS:GO for most Americans (Canadian and US), played the game for fun and not many took it too seriously. Too many other things to divide a persons time and interest in. Once they started making LAN's more lucrative American teams started getting incrementally better. 4 years ago Europeans were pissed that NA teams were permitted ANY spots at Majors because it was an open question if any of the teams could even get double-digits against European teams. Now, even teams like Complexity and the now-gone Ghost regularly showed they can take maps off some of the best in the world.
2019-07-24 01:35
Honestly, the needle hasn't really moved that much since then to be honest. When coL were peaking, Team3D & CheckSix (its few variations) still existed and were fairly competitive internationally. However, outside those big teams it is still a cesspool of* tier-3 CS (NA MDL has never improved). Meanwhile European & Asian team were ahead in fundamental CS.
2019-07-24 01:47
I mean, JMC and EG were typically threats. X3O at one point as well. But American teams just never really won anything. God, that stupid CPL that SK won, and they kept going into OT against 3D on Nuke. They were definitely worse, but then they switched it to fucking cpl_Mill to decide it (i mean who thought that rule up) and 3D lost. Basically 3D probably won the tournament if they beat SK, but a single rule totally destroyed the whole thing. And saying 4 years ago NA teams weren't getting double digits is weird. We've had NA teams making playoffs or winning tournaments since the onset of CSGO. They weren't winning majors, but we've had high places on more than a hand full of occasions.
2019-07-24 06:00
Yea we never played it for fun and we dont have anything else to do than play cs
2019-07-24 04:01
#31
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Brazil Bene_Tleilax 
I see it differently, although the net result is the same. Even though Liquid players are at their peak, I dont see a difference that huge from before. Its just that old stars just declined and are past their prime. If not Liquid would only be a competitive but common team.
2019-07-24 01:01
#99
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Denmark sNju 
True. They performed the same for all of 2018. Astralis dropped off, Liquid didn't pop off tbh.
2019-07-24 01:51
#124
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Australia g00sey 
You are delusional
2019-07-24 03:12
#134
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Denmark sNju 
This is facts. Look at Liquids lost maps, their close wins etc.. they have dominated for a few tournaments, but won everything the last 4-5 months, with only shit teams. Look at the amount of top teams restructuring. Liquid will get their asses fucked hard in 2020. NaVi and Astralis will be stronger imo. - also FaZe with Cold could be a serious contender to top3.
2019-07-24 04:01
#152
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Indonesia rareguy 
NaVi, maybe. Astralis most likely no.
2019-07-24 06:11
#158
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Denmark sNju 
Ofc, the most dominating, most winning team of all time, winner of the latest Major, has no chance... My god, you are a smart one.
2019-07-24 06:32
#160
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Indonesia rareguy 
I never said they have no chance.
2019-07-24 06:57
#209
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Denmark sNju 
"most likely no", is something you would say about Norway winning the World Cup, not about fucking Spain.
2019-07-24 10:23
#212
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Indonesia rareguy 
That's from what I see, or at least I believe. Also, if you're going to make an analogy, the fitting analogy would be,"I don't believe Spain is going to win the World Cup. Germany probably will." But then again, if the truth said otherwise on both statements, it's going to be my own problem, not Spain's fans problem :$
2019-07-24 10:31
#279
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Denmark sNju 
You're delusional. When settings percentages on who will win the World Cup, it would be something like 12% Spain, 14% Germany, 8% Brazil etc... And you call Spain huge favorites with no chance to Brazil in the above mentioned numbers? Get real dude, you know shit.
2019-07-25 00:06
+1
2019-08-01 18:05
#251
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India MihirX27 
You're really undermining the -TACO-zews+Stewie2k+adreN roster move. That changed it ten-fold, Atleast that's what the eye-test during EPL S9 between Astralis vs Liquid tells you.
2019-07-24 15:10
#285
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Denmark sNju 
I believe Zews created the Liquid we see today. Going from Taco to Stewie gave them a support player that could also be very aggressive and unreadable. I have always been a big fan of Stewie2k. And Adren has done shit for this team, have proved nothing except being a nice guy, and probably is very liked by the players because of his loose leadership. I've said this a thousand times and i'll say it again: Liquid didn't do anything they didn't already do in 2018. Difference is that Astralis wasn't there in the final to stop them. Astralis became much worse, Liquid didn't get much better.
2019-07-25 00:17
Liquid will fall when EliGE and Twistzz will start to struggle
2019-07-24 01:01
#39
flusha | 
United States k3ar 
EliGE said on stream that his confidence level is through the roof right now. Could be awhile.
2019-07-24 01:04
#48
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Brazil BlueLighting 
Confidence can be a bad thing sometimes, 1 lost can collapse everything, once they think they no longer need to improve by overconfidence it can be a bad thing too
2019-07-24 01:12
#54
flusha | 
United States k3ar 
Depends on how hard he gets crushed mentally in the tougher losses in the future. A rough loss at the major could do that, but then again, ENCE happened at Katowice, and look where he is now.
2019-07-24 01:16
but in katowice elige didn't have that confidence that he has now
2019-07-24 01:31
#115
flusha | 
United States k3ar 
That's true, but I feel like EliGE is smart enough to not let it get to his head anymore.
2019-07-24 02:34
#125
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Australia g00sey 
EliGe has been on Liquid a long time. They've taken a long time with many setbacks to get to this point. Confidence is deserved
2019-07-24 03:14
confidence is the highest performance booster.
2019-07-24 10:58
+1
2019-08-01 18:05
#166
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Israel TimeDani 
lol you are saying liquid will be shit once two of the 5 players are shit, it’s like me saying Navi will be shit if simple becomes a bot
2019-07-24 07:39
#177
jkaem | 
Norway birbbI 
...but Na’Vi will be shit without s1mple. I’m pretty sure TL would be struggling without EliGE and Twistzz, it would be hard to find replacements with them that work with the team chemistry.
2019-07-24 08:34
#34
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United States RULE34TRACER 
These teams and players just keep giving Liquid reasons for winning the major..
2019-07-24 01:02
ence_1_majorfinal_liquid_0 cry is free
2019-07-24 01:02
#47
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United States RULE34TRACER 
cologne 2016
2019-07-24 01:12
i meant current roster
2019-07-24 09:25
#55
flusha | 
United States k3ar 
He doesn't know PepeLaugh
2019-07-24 01:17
#60
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United States go0n_acTuaL 
Kek
2019-07-24 01:21
#62
apEX | 
France Axpie 
nt newbie
2019-07-24 01:22
#102
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United States Trump2020KAG 
newfag spotted
2019-07-24 01:54
Either you're a newfag,baiting or idiot
2019-07-24 02:36
No one tell him lmao
2019-07-24 04:42
+1
2019-08-01 18:05
#154
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Indonesia rareguy 
everyone keep dabbing at him
2019-07-24 06:12
they dont know
2019-07-24 09:24
well maybe man
2019-07-24 01:03
#42
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Poland @skaddycsgo 
ridiculous coz entire scene is in a slump and they are the only team performing? just wait for astralis to get in shape again, wait for navi (they showed great signs in Cologne). Liquid will be 3rd team again.
2019-07-24 01:10
#50
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United States RULE34TRACER 
Lol Navi and Astralis are done, they will never be as good as liquid
2019-07-24 01:13
Astralis back to back majors, constantly raping liquid kkkkkkkkkk
2019-07-24 01:26
#82
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France 0racle 
Couldnt beat liquid with taco lmao
2019-07-24 01:28
huh they did wtf r u talkin bout
2019-07-24 01:44
#113
flusha | 
United States k3ar 
Liquid always beats NaVi though and it's not like Liquid chokes in finals anymore. As for Astralis, I'd love to see them come back in form.
2019-07-24 02:33
#126
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Australia g00sey 
This. Fan of navi but liquid was crushing them all of 2018. I hope that changes though
2019-07-24 03:16
#287
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Poland @skaddycsgo 
Ima guess navi will be their main contender
2019-07-25 04:58
+1
2019-08-01 18:05
#46
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Colombia MonstarX 
1) Liquid; Astralis 2) Vitality 3) FaZe; NaVi 4) ENCE This is my list of team who can win Starladder
2019-07-24 01:11
#58
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Brazil Beckermonster 
faze with neo? lol no chance even mibr are better than them
2019-07-24 01:20
neo > zews FaZe > mibr
2019-07-24 04:17
#179
jkaem | 
Norway birbbI 
FaZe definitely can’t win with Neo but you are just delusional saying MIBR has better chances.
2019-07-24 08:40
Dont you remember the Virtus.Plow in majors? I think NEO will surprise and faze is having a big break atm so big tactics going on ;)
2019-07-24 11:46
#61
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United States go0n_acTuaL 
Here I fix your list: 1. Liquid 2. Vitality 3. Navi 4. Astralis Ence? Seriously?
2019-07-24 01:22
#155
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Indonesia rareguy 
ENCE has a pretty good chance imo.
2019-07-24 06:13
#77
Twistzz | 
Estonia dev2ce 
you have 6 teams but the list is numbered only 1-4?
2019-07-24 01:27
#105
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Colombia MonstarX 
The Idea was comparing the teams, but how go0n says, I'll fix my top 1) Liquid 2) Astralis 3) Vitality 4) NaVi 5) FaZe 6) ENCE 7) Mousesports 8) G2 This is a top 8, If this teams qualify to Quarter
2019-07-24 02:05
#136
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Switzerland RU!N 
8/8 best rating here
2019-07-24 04:09
+1
2019-08-01 18:06
Imagine watching Katowice Major Astralis playing against this Team Liquid. Would be fucking insane.
2019-07-24 01:23
This team liquid got fucked by ence tho
2019-07-24 01:26
#108
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France Ocelot31 
no they didn't
2019-07-24 02:24
ALEX best way to improve VITA Kick NBK and RPK, bring back happy and add kio, best moves. Preach the savior of the French scene Happy1 and KioShima. Amen this will happen soon.
2019-07-24 01:25
Retaard
2019-07-24 01:44
Their entire strat is setting up Zywoo, there's no lurking or complexity in what they do. Maybe Happy's not the best choice (it's debatable), but they're just gonna drop off at this rate.
2019-07-24 03:02
+1
2019-07-24 03:53
#156
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Indonesia rareguy 
Someone from Heretics? idk
2019-07-24 06:14
#263
ALEX | 
France MrWowo 
Stop speak
2019-07-24 16:48
#78
Katie | 
Canada Lizzie 
wants them to get worse cuz they cant get better lmao lazy fuck
2019-07-24 01:27
Xaaxxax nt brexit.
2019-07-24 01:30
shut the f*ck up, useless clown
2019-07-24 01:38
Liquid doesn't have the best team play?? I disagree dude.. They are too good at the game itself? Of course.. Edit: Astralis @ smoke grenade team
2019-07-24 01:52
+1
2019-08-01 18:06
he is so right about liquid lol
2019-07-24 02:13
You are a loser alex
2019-07-24 02:21
#111
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Japan ehegao 
ALEX need to be kicked, let NBK become a true IGL. ALEX just in the team to harass NBKing.
2019-07-24 02:28
Vitality was horrible when NBK was leading lmao...
2019-07-24 03:03
#127
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Australia g00sey 
Delusional NBK fan
2019-07-24 03:19
More like nbk has to go.
2019-07-24 03:33
#170
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Czech Republic Mibrdisband 
I can smell the baguette brain here
2019-07-24 07:42
#234
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France J0riS 
Gros arrête avec tes conneries si vita est #2 cest grace a Alex
2019-07-24 13:56
Toxic matchfixer
2019-07-24 02:34
yes
2019-07-24 02:37
#129
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Indonesia tsokai 
TLDR: Liquid players outaimed everyone
2019-07-24 03:39
Liquid is so damn good! Elige Nitro Twistzzz Naf top5, stew top15
2019-07-24 03:40
#138
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Brazil hugoooo 
S1mple and ZywOo > nitr0 Obviously
2019-07-24 04:13
highly debatable
2019-07-24 07:58
#266
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Brazil hugoooo 
Lmao I'm not going to waste my time with this
2019-07-24 17:52
+1
2019-08-01 18:07
#135
Xyp9x | 
Czech Republic Puget1 
Hoping that the top team drops off Nice 2nd place mentality
2019-07-24 04:04
#169
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Czech Republic Mibrdisband 
when wrong people get to the top
2019-07-24 07:41
#137
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Brazil hugoooo 
Let's hope for it... In 2018 Astralis dominated and made it boring, now Liquid is dominating and it's getting boring as well. I miss when we really couldn't guess who would win the next Big Lan...
2019-07-24 04:11
#163
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Brazil GrilO_O 
+1 I remember a sequence of tournaments that the winners where completely random, like NiP, next North, next FaZe, next NaVi and so on. It was so good to watch. Eras are so boring...
2019-07-24 07:06
#235
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France J0riS 
Yeah 2017 was a great year no era, and even the fnatic era was a lil bit more entertaining to watch
2019-07-24 13:59
#268
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Brazil hugoooo 
2017 was all about SK vs FaZe, it was cool SK won more but FaZe won some tournaments too, it was not boring.
2019-07-24 17:53
#269
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France J0riS 
You also had astralis with a major, gambit with a major, G2 showing up at malmö and epl finals, that was a great year
2019-07-24 17:59
It's ridiculous that almost all "top" teams are fucking bad and therefore can't compete against Liquid... CS:GO scene is shit nowadays.
2019-07-24 04:24
#168
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Czech Republic Mibrdisband 
+1
2019-07-24 07:41
#293
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Moldova AJollyDoge 
It's ridiculous that almost all "top" teams are fucking bad and therefore can't compete against Astralis... CS:GO scene is shit nowadays. It's ridiculous that almost all "top" teams are fucking bad and therefore can't compete against SK... CS:GO scene is shit nowadays. It's ridiculous that almost all "top" teams are fucking bad and therefore can't compete against NiP... CS:GO scene is shit nowadays. It's ridiculous that almost all "top" teams are fucking bad and therefore can't compete against Fnatic... CS:GO scene is shit nowadays. I sense a pattern here.
2019-07-25 14:27
+1
2019-08-01 18:07
And the Vitality sayed last week "We are tired to play and travel stop talk trash about us because we not play seriusly this championship we are taking a break" and Liquid is playing every single tournament 100% since the second month of the last year. The only team could beat Liquid near future is the back of Astralis, they are not playing many camps like Liquid and the others. The last game of Astralis I saw a lot of mistakes
2019-07-24 04:38
It’s already been said several times. The role versatility on Liquid is unmatched. That’s their niche.
2019-07-24 05:17
#157
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Indonesia rareguy 
tl;dr ALEX hates TL so much because they're really lucky getting those shots. We can't say it's not skill, but luck played some roles on the execution too. Imagine tapping with CZ but you missed like 40% of it when Twistzz can HS while running, twice.
2019-07-24 06:17
We are going for the major now guys!!!
2019-07-24 07:03
#164
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Norway Ludvic 
Liquid success reason - EliGE and nitro playing for liquid for so long...never been that good like now...twistzz doing good as expected, naf is better than before and stew ain't chocked till now which he often does
2019-07-24 07:08
#167
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Czech Republic Mibrdisband 
I think that theyre doing some drugs like srsly..
2019-07-24 07:39
#165
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Lithuania microgam1ng 
Mr. Gabe And VALVE can sto Any team what they whant :-)
2019-07-24 07:14
What a beta - interview
2019-07-24 07:53
#178
KRIMZ | 
Slovakia EvErisT 
pussy
2019-07-24 08:38
#180
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Japan Johnny_Br@Vo 
lol White flag already
2019-07-24 08:41
Other players need to do parties invite TL members give them alot of drugs, job done
2019-07-24 08:49
CRY BAUGETTE ALWAYS BE PUSSY RISE A WHITE FLAG BOI
2019-07-24 08:54
+1
2019-08-01 18:08
"Everyone thinks of changing the world, but no one thinks of changing himself." - Leo Tolstoy I wish Liquid the best and dominance for years.
2019-07-24 09:40
#237
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France J0riS 
For years ? So you want cs to be boring for 3 years ?
2019-07-24 14:05
Mayweather's fights didn't seem boring to me. The longer you are the champ, the more difficult it is for you to defend as even a tier-10 team will do everything they possibly can.
2019-07-24 15:04
lol +1 dat fckn retard knows nothin abt CS
2019-07-24 15:13
A long period of domination proves it wasn't a one-time fluke. Liquid didn't break down after losing to Astralis 6 times in the finals. You know nothing about hard work put in and what it yields.
2019-07-24 16:44
#196
s1 | 
Armenia gr1nch 
Tl:dr we are mad bcuz zywoos skill is not enough to beat them and we sux while twistz can run with cz and still hit us
2019-07-24 09:48
This is looser-talk from ALEX. If you think you can't win against Liquid give you roster spot to someone else.
2019-07-24 10:02
well atleast he is talking about team while ence is scared of one player
2019-07-24 10:38
Aerial spoke for himself not the team, and its looser talk also.
2019-07-24 11:06
+1
2019-08-01 18:09
sucha noob shit
2019-07-24 15:47
why this retard gets so mucb attention. without zywoo vitality is basically tier 3 material.
2019-07-24 10:06
alex speaking about ridiculous when he is on lifetime upswing himself lol
2019-07-24 10:10
+1
2019-08-01 18:08
What's ridiculous is you guys not able to kill guys that are facing their backs on pistol rounds. That's what.
2019-07-24 10:26
Imagine talking about liquids teamplay while your own game is based on will zywoo carry or not lmao
2019-07-24 10:37
Ur team is ridiculous french bot
2019-07-24 10:54
Maybe if Vitality want an actual good team they should build a TEAM instead of putting in random noobs and then a fat ugly cheater (zywho).
2019-07-24 11:24
#228
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Brazil millerjmatos 
Astralis 2018 > Solar System > TL 2019
2019-07-24 12:22
Liquid will win incoming Major dropping max 3 maps during all the event, screenshot this
2019-07-24 12:34
lol they are not even that good, they are just very fortunate that every other top team is a dumpster fire rn, if they get their shit together Lanquit will go back to scratching for top 10
2019-07-24 13:02
Liquid never won a t1 event
2019-07-24 13:37
true
2019-07-24 16:23
The drop in co2 emissions under Trump is a continuation effect from Obama era policies. Trump’s activities have slowed the decline in co2 emissions compared to the previous administration. It’s a cherry picked fact to say co2 has dropped and then say Trump is the reason. He’s rolling back environmental protections. In four years the trend under his administration will be that he slowed the drop in co2 emissions that had already been taking place prior to his election. More info here: politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/..
2019-07-24 17:11
+1
2019-08-01 18:09
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