New Legends Stage first match-ups revealed

StarLadder has revealed the match-ups for the first round of the New Legends Stage, kicking off Wednesday.

Defending Major champions Astralis have been pitted against DreamEaters, the surprise package of the New Challengers Stage, in the first round, while Liquid, the current No.1 team in the world, will be taking on CR4ZY.

Natus Vincere will play their first match in Berlin against G2 in one of the most interesting matches of the opening round. However, the clash that is sure to dominate headlines on Wednesday will be the one between mousesports and FaZe as it will provide Finn "karrigan" Andersen with yet another opportunity to exact revenge on his former team.

Just like for the New Challengers Stage, StarLadder used HLTV.org's rankings between March 4 and August 12 as a seeding tool for the first round, with Astralis earning the top seed and Liquid the second seed.

The clashes for the first round are in

Each team has been assigned an ELO rating matching their seeding. After every match, the teams' ELO is adjusted and the match-ups for the following round are determined accordingly.

The New Legends Stage will run from Wednesday through Sunday and, just like the first phase of the Major, will feature a best-of-three format in all progression and elimination matches. The top eight sides will earn spots in the playoffs, which will be held from September 5-8 at the Mercedes-Benz Arena.

Below you can find all the match-ups for the first round:

Finland ENCE vs. Kazakhstan AVANGAR
Denmark Astralis vs. Russia DreamEaters
Australia Renegades vs. United States NRG
United States Liquid vs. Serbia CR4ZY
France Vitality vs. Denmark North
Europe FaZe vs. Europe mousesports
Russia Natus Vincere vs. France G2
Brazil MIBR vs. Sweden NiP

Denmark Finn 'karrigan' Andersen
Finn 'karrigan' Andersen
Age:
29
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.93
Maps played:
1538
KPR:
0.64
DPR:
0.68
APR:
0.13
Great matches for the next stage. Diamond pick'em im coming... nt haters i.imgur.com/xRmqrl9.png
2019-08-26 21:53
Get a life
2019-08-26 21:53
EZ4NIP
2019-08-26 21:53
how is Astralis 1st seed and not Liquid
2019-08-26 21:56
#62
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Sweden Unluko 
Nice matches
2019-08-26 21:56
Ez North
2019-08-26 22:17
Previous major result(((
2019-08-26 21:56
they won the previous major
2019-08-26 21:57
Defending champion? In case you didn't notice, legend stage is based on last major result.
2019-08-26 21:59
No it's not. Vitality is above mibr and Nip in the seedings, last major mibr was 3rd/4th and vita was 9-11th
2019-08-26 22:12
Are you saying mibr and NiP are not qualified in this major? Because I can see them. Perhaps F5 or idk.
2019-08-26 22:13
dumb or baiting?
2019-08-26 22:15
Hello my lovely friend, instead of this moron baiting you, let me explain it really simply. They used the hltv rankings all the way from march till august from what i read on dexerto, which back then astralis without a doubt were number 1 with no contender .
2019-08-27 00:08
Dumb or just baiting?
2019-08-27 03:21
Baiting or just dumb?
2019-08-27 07:51
Liquid = fluke Astralis = real top 1
2019-08-26 21:59
xaxaxaxaxaxa good one
2019-08-26 23:34
you = fluke 😶
2019-08-27 09:53
#260
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Bulgaria No_1One 
Because they're real top 1
2019-08-26 22:53
#308
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World memyselfandI 
HLTV isn't official rankings, and Astralis are reigning champions.
2019-08-27 00:12
read -> understand -> post You definitely skipped the second part
2019-08-27 03:56
last major ranking
2019-08-27 13:12
Because they are better
2019-08-27 18:16
#NiPMagic bullshit, Aachen
2019-08-26 22:07
+1
2019-08-26 23:10
#23
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Germany Deutschland! 
imagine being mad cuz you didn't get first LMFAO
2019-08-26 21:54
+1
2019-08-26 21:56
What the heck these matchs make no sense Liquid vs CR4ZY ? So CR4ZY are ranked last ?
2019-08-26 21:54
#37
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Myanmar xdcc 
no, astralis is rated 1st because this ranking is from march 4th to august 12th. so astralis still has a couple of months of #1. tho cr4zy unlucky that AVANGAR still has a better seed. ELO is kind of useless in terms of adjusting here.. this website pretty good for predicting berlin.wa.vg/ (just press go to Legends stage)
2019-08-26 21:58
#304
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Brazil DinooxP 
MiBR 3/2 oh yeah mens)))😎😎👍
2019-08-27 00:10
Astralis ranked first obviously. Liquid is a fluke and not the real top 1.
2019-08-26 21:55
#116
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United Kingdom Vitheeshan 
Nice troll, liquid>>>>>>>astralis
2019-08-26 22:01
+1
2019-08-26 22:04
haha lol wtf... liquid won like 15 events in a row xD "not the real top 1"
2019-08-26 22:11
FeelsBadMan
2019-08-26 22:47
#336
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United States NotASmurph 
nt retard medkit
2019-08-27 04:28
Astralis #1 bc they won the previous major
2019-08-26 21:57
No because they stayed longer at the #1 after the previous major than liquid
2019-08-26 23:09
LULQUID 2 weeks top1 lul
2019-08-27 00:07
#20
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Myanmar xdcc 
MIBR vs NiP clash of trash xaxaxa
2019-08-26 21:54
#41
oskar | 
Czech Republic PaYaB 
+1
2019-08-26 21:55
+1
2019-08-27 18:13
#206
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Laos El_Cholo 
And you are a fan of CRAPzY?
2019-08-26 22:21
Who you think is gonna win?
2019-08-26 22:22
#215
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Myanmar xdcc 
idk both with standins (nip golden instead of plopski, mibr with zews instead of coldzera/kng). not going to watch that match anyway
2019-08-26 22:24
I think it will be funny to watch, anyway I’ll not underestimate Golden
2019-08-26 22:26
nip 16-0 mibr
2019-08-26 22:32
#291
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United States MaNiHa 
+1 lol
2019-08-26 23:39
#348
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United States Samsquanch_ 
HAHAHAHA
2019-08-27 08:34
+1 GO GET A LIFE
2019-08-26 21:55
Legend
2019-08-26 21:56
#94
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Poland Hanse 
Where is lockerboy
2019-08-26 21:59
I got 7/9 😎 EZ North 3-0
2019-08-26 22:03
#285
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United States drewjc415 
my pickems were the exact same.
2019-08-26 23:33
this elo shit is pretty fucked for teams like dreameaters
2019-08-26 23:37
If they win even one match they get a significant boost so not really
2019-08-27 00:00
Not true they'll play liquid if they win
2019-08-27 18:29
#306
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Europe FJUL 
u pick furia, lol =)))xaxaxa
2019-08-27 00:10
#341
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United States LookitsJrd 
I got 7 right loser
2019-08-27 07:04
#347
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Germany killmichi 
Ence 60 40 Avangar Astralis 50 50 Dreameaters Renegades 30 70 NRG Liquid 70 30 Cr4zy North 60 40 Vitality Faze 40 60 Mouz Navi 51 49 G2 Mibr 50 50 NIP I see a decent chance for DE to beat Astralis since Astralis has not played a official competitive match since cologne afaik which was almost 2 month ago. Its the same happening like the last time they got a lot worse. Also you should never underestimate the advantage of having competed recently in nailbiting competitive matches and pulling yourself through. We got some really exciting matchups here. :))
2019-08-27 08:15
#372
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Turkey headshotk1ng 
MIBR 50 50 NIP LMFAO MIBR 5 95 NIP mibr playing with zews lol, ez, 4 rounds max for mibr.
2019-08-27 18:16
Nip trash too tho
2019-08-27 18:30
#376
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Turkey headshotk1ng 
see ya later, watch f0rest, GTR and REZ drop 30bomb all together.
2019-08-27 18:31
#384
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Germany killmichi 
Hey there. Welcome back. So where were these 30 bombs you mentioned? I might just have missed them. Taco outfragging everyone on NIP and even zews with a higher rating than f0rest. ^^ I do not even like mibr but you gotta admit, that NIP is just really weak right now.
2019-08-29 08:17
Haha, dude you should get a life (maybe even try to kiss a girl ;))
2019-08-27 10:02
are you jealous of my diamond pick'em?
2019-08-27 11:04
#360
cype | 
Europe dip6o 
It's not even your own pickem
2019-08-27 10:44
it is
2019-08-27 11:03
#2
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Switzerland meme_jesus 
faze mouz nice
2019-08-26 21:53
#107
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Algeria abdodz45 
nt
2019-08-26 22:00
#114
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Switzerland meme_jesus 
nt I have like millions of first comments, I wasn't really trying to get this one, newbie
2019-08-26 22:00
So you did try
2019-08-26 22:02
#132
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Switzerland meme_jesus 
I did not, I was thinking about what to write so it was pretty slow. If I hunt first comments I have something copy pasted usually so its just ez ctrl + v but nt
2019-08-26 22:03
So you tried to get first, but you weren't prepared
2019-08-26 22:03
#143
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Switzerland meme_jesus 
I wouldn't call it a try, but just having a shot at, like if the notification pops up then why wouldn't i just write something and see if i'll maybe be first
2019-08-26 22:04
Xaxaxa, so u did try I have a shot at eating all that food = i will try eating all that food I give it a shot at 1. Comment = i try get first comment. nt
2019-08-26 22:20
#236
CeRq | 
Bulgaria Narsiel 
Why is there a race for first comment? I have never seen such thing in any other forum. Is there a story behind it? What am I missing...
2019-08-26 22:34
You get the most views i guess..?
2019-08-26 22:36
what a shitshow over a number
2019-08-26 22:35
Yea, space could have been used more productively. But again, it is hltv and mostly just shit, uknow
2019-08-26 22:37
#259
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Switzerland meme_jesus 
No, I didn't try at all, sorry.
2019-08-26 22:50
lul nikos bouta tilt
2019-08-27 02:12
s
2019-08-26 21:53
nice
2019-08-26 21:53
yes
2019-08-26 21:53
#6
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Denmark oskarsports 
ez mouz
2019-08-26 21:53
Hopefully but its looking good for the bois
2019-08-26 22:04
Renegades 1-3 at best.
2019-08-26 22:09
I was talking about the mouz bois not the real bois sry m8
2019-08-26 22:38
Oh, sorry.
2019-08-26 22:40
Most likely 0-3.
2019-08-26 22:10
#7
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South America IFK 
ence
2019-08-26 21:53
dog ence will lose to avangar
2019-08-26 23:00
nt fakeflag
2019-08-27 18:11
#8
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Venezuela anx420 
ez major for astralis
2019-08-26 21:53
#49
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Venezuela anx420 
wait is astralis the highest seeded team or is dreameaters somehow not the worst seeded team or am i just misundersatnding how the seeding works?
2019-08-26 21:56
#89
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Denmark Ken92 
Astralis is number 1 seeded team.
2019-08-26 21:58
Who won last major?
2019-08-26 22:00
Astralis won last major and were number one for a few months before liquid
2019-08-26 22:00
#115
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Venezuela anx420 
i just recall the seedings being done based on who the players thought was #1 team in kato
2019-08-26 22:01
Yeah but that was esl doing that event, this is done by starladder so it’s different
2019-08-27 05:58
oof
2019-08-26 22:16
can u read that article?
2019-08-26 22:15
#9
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Ukraine twil 
nt
2019-08-26 21:53
#11
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Other nt_newfag 
pog
2019-08-26 21:53
ez for SK
2019-08-26 21:53
#14
Twistzz | 
Latvia `DinGo 
POG
2019-08-26 21:53
#16
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Switzerland MikasPeders 
cr4zy vs liquid rly lol
2019-08-26 21:53
cr4zy have a chance if i’m being honest. It’s an opening match and opening matches have lots of upset potential
2019-08-26 22:28
#269
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Czech Republic wonderhead 
Plus liquid aren't the best on bo1s and lose quite a bit of opening matches.
2019-08-26 23:06
#331
NiKo | 
Serbia NEXIXOX 
from ur mouth to gods ears :D
2019-08-27 02:53
#17
fer | 
Brazil arthuro 
ez mibr
2019-08-26 21:53
-1
2019-08-26 22:02
#141
fer | 
Brazil arthuro 
nt fake flagger
2019-08-26 22:04
+1
2019-08-26 22:06
MIBR vs. NiP to ruin a lot of people's 0-3 pick'ems
2019-08-26 23:34
Faze vs mouz rip jajjaajjajajajaj my 2 fav teams
2019-08-26 21:53
#168
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Slovakia Kl4d1L 
yep
2019-08-26 22:09
+1
2019-08-26 22:09
+1
2019-08-27 04:46
DreamEaters 0-3 welcome
2019-08-26 21:53
Hahahaha. Exactly the match up I hoped for North
2019-08-26 21:54
#194
NBK- | 
China Gnikiv 
ez for north .oh w8. i am fan of vitality.
2019-08-26 22:17
ez 3:0 for NIP inc
2019-08-26 21:54
why this major is favouring astralis
2019-08-26 21:54
its rigged
2019-08-26 21:55
fuck this shit.. if there elo based mm the higher seed vs lower seed liquid vs de
2019-08-26 22:01
Because they won the last one ?
2019-08-26 22:00
may be
2019-08-26 22:01
#25
oskar | 
Czech Republic PaYaB 
mibr vs nip, nice seeding brah
2019-08-26 21:54
#77
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Turkey xxxjet3 
Unfair 2 weakest team
2019-08-26 21:57
ence aswell
2019-08-26 22:01
what are you complaing its one of the fairest matches
2019-08-26 22:43
#267
oskar | 
Czech Republic PaYaB 
flag checks out, and stop lying to yourself..
2019-08-26 23:03
What? are you gonna say it isn't 2 dead teams? don't even worth arguing it will be a close match
2019-08-27 02:38
#363
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Serbia Niddzaa 
Mibr and nip should have got navi and faze or something, also FaZe v Mousesports is a lot better match
2019-08-27 11:06
FIRST TIME must say: NICE job!!!
2019-08-26 21:54
#28
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Spain akproxx 
actually looks like a real major
2019-08-26 21:54
Ofc cause Astralis dont gonna win
2019-08-26 22:26
#29
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Turkey headshotk1ng 
G2 - Na’Vi pog Ez for NiP btw
2019-08-26 21:54
#61
s1mple | 
Europe Sam2k 
flair checks out
2019-08-26 21:56
Not if they play Train, Fallen is a beast on A with his awp
2019-08-26 21:57
G2 will win :D
2019-08-26 21:58
#30
KRIMZ | 
Denmark slacking 
rip fázé
2019-08-26 21:54
lol easiest first matchup for mouz
2019-08-26 21:54
#112
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Albania Edjon 
+1111
2019-08-26 22:00
vitality 0-3
2019-08-26 21:54
#34
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Brazil bernog 
STARLADDER IS A SHAME ALWAYS FUCKING G2 WE DESERVED A BETTER SEEDING WORST MAJOR EVER
2019-08-26 21:55
g2 will win relax ... navi always looses his first match
2019-08-26 22:02
#139
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Brazil bernog 
2019-08-26 22:03
amanek was not there also g2 is much better then last major
2019-08-26 22:05
#255
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Brazil bernog 
I hope so
2019-08-26 22:47
#172
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France FrighTyyy 
Actually, I remember this match and it was with the old economy system. G2 won the same amount of buy-rounds as Na'Vi, but they were being hard-reseted to 1400$ after every win. Dont worry, bro!
2019-08-26 22:10
#258
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Brazil bernog 
I hope G2 won this time man I really want them to go to champions stage
2019-08-26 22:47
#38
FalleN | 
Brazil Lk1Ng 
ez mibr 3-0
2019-08-26 21:55
#40
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Poland mamba99999 
ez for G2
2019-08-26 21:55
#42
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Lithuania Paulius_CS 
nice
2019-08-26 21:55
rip dream eaters
2019-08-26 21:55
#45
Denmark ram0 
Ez for DreamEaters
2019-08-26 21:55
+1
2019-08-26 22:40
#47
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Turkey Thunderball 
what ta hell faze vs mouz? what kinda seeding is that? mibr nip both worse both of faze an mouz but they are facing each other
2019-08-26 21:55
s1mple vs KennyS first match Pog
2019-08-26 21:55
#51
KRIMZ | 
Sweden DeeQyu 
Finland ENCE = Kazakhstan AVANGAR Denmark Astralis > Russia DreamEaters Australia Renegades > United States NRG United States Liquid > Serbia CR4ZY France Vitality > Denmark North Europe FaZe = Europe mousesports Russia Natus Vincere > France G2 Brazil MIBR = Sweden NiP
2019-08-26 21:56
#124
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Germany misterE 
Finland ENCE > Kazakhstan Avangar Denmark Astralis > Russia DreamEaters Australia Renegades < USA NRG USA Liquid > Europe Cr4ZY France Vitality < Denmark North Europe FaZe = Europe mous ( i want faze to lose again just so Karrigan can take the piss out of them AGAIN) Russia Na'Vi = France G2 Brazil Mibr = Sweden NiP
2019-08-26 22:02
Yeet
2019-08-26 21:56
#53
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Brazil _Rhaegar_ 
Ez for Mibr
2019-08-26 21:56
Why... Nip always struggles with Mibr :(
2019-08-26 21:56
Always at major
2019-08-26 22:02
#58
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Germany naeqode 
wtf is this seeding lmao.. ENCE and Astralis higher sees than Liquid ?
2019-08-26 21:56
#109
shox | 
France KR1MEZ 
Probably base on last major ranking
2019-08-26 22:00
When Liquid will win a major they will be #1 of next. Til then, keep cool Astralis is the defending champion.
2019-08-26 22:01
#158
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Germany naeqode 
which is percisely what I mean when I say "wtf is this seeding". Seeding should be based on current team performance aka hltv ranking. No point whatsoever in seeding based on an event that took place half a year ago.
2019-08-26 22:06
So for you, going in playoff of a major should mean nothing and every team should go through the qualifier? The problem with that is it don't create any story telling, it increase the instability of the scene (as you don't need to keep 3 players to keep your slot) and so lower the possible audience and sponsorship. It also make Valve rely on non Valve regulated tournament to make the seeding. Which would be a strange decision to say the least.
2019-08-26 22:10
#171
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Germany naeqode 
Imo the major should be top16 hltv teams at the end of the season. Avoids trash teams from trash minors and ensures that the teams who performed best at regular events throughout the season get to play the major.
2019-08-26 22:10
I edited my comment. Only "regular events" Valve acknowledge are his own, meaning minor and major. And they rely on it to make their seedings. The same happen with dota 2 where minor gives seeding for majors and majors give seeding for TI.
2019-08-26 22:14
#59
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Turkey xxxjet3 
Rip Liquid easy for Crazy
2019-08-26 21:56
DreamEaters 0-1 Astralis! Maybe lol match?)
2019-08-26 21:56
Bestered matchups! Lez go! :D
2019-08-26 21:56
#64
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Norway 2014_user 
2019-08-26 21:56
Forza Mouz
2019-08-26 21:56
#67
tarik | 
Brazil NykoLaz 
Ez for Nip! Mibr will go 0-3!
2019-08-26 21:56
#68
United States p3rf 
Faze vs Mouz = EZ for Mouz.
2019-08-26 21:57
#69
shox | 
France KR1MEZ 
NAVI vs G2 FaZe vs Mouz Lets go
2019-08-26 21:58
#72
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African Union mikecool 
RNG vs NRG. El classico. But I feel that this match up has always been played and I was expecting something else... Hmm
2019-08-26 21:57
#74
tarik | 
Morocco Most! 
We'll fuck u up dog
2019-08-26 21:57
#101
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African Union mikecool 
Lolz. I'm looking forward to it ;)
2019-08-26 22:00
#110
tarik | 
Morocco Most! 
axaxaxaxa gl hf men
2019-08-26 22:00
ENCE > AVANGAR Astralis > DreamEaters Renegades < NRG Liquid > CR4ZY Vitality > North FaZe > mousesports (almost a toss-up) Natus Vincere > G2 MIBR > NiP (almost a toss-up)
2019-08-26 21:57
Mouz > faze North will upset
2019-08-26 21:58
Always possible. Mouz is good, but I think Faze will pull out a close one against them. North upsetting is not a bad call. Vitality has not seemed great, but I think their personal history will see Vitality through. I'm not solid on it, though.
2019-08-26 22:00
I think faze will win, they are playing more fpl than normal and it's just a b01 so who knows
2019-08-27 02:11
Anything can happen in a B01. Some of who wins at this level comes down to the map and who is on form on that day.
2019-08-27 14:10
+1
2019-08-27 14:55
#123
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Turkey Slapdash 
Evren though im a FaZe fan mouz will win
2019-08-26 22:01
Why are everyone saying fluketality > north. North went 3-0. Have you not seen vitality play recently????
2019-08-27 07:28
Vitality seems to play differently when it matters. I think North and them is a toss-up, especially considering how they've seemed lackluster in the last few days. It is a B01, so perhaps North will win. If it were a B03 I'd put my money on Vitality.
2019-08-27 14:12
Excuse me , but how CR4ZY should play vs #1 Ranked team in the world ? How these seeding working ?
2019-08-26 21:57
Best team vs worst team logic
2019-08-26 21:58
are u idiot ? CR4ZY is #15 , DE #19 . AVANGAR #20
2019-08-26 21:59
Look at vitalitys match ups, de, intz, syman etc. Literally the worst
2019-08-26 22:03
#323
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United States EmperorTrump 
It's not based on HLTV rank LMAO. Seeding only depends on Qualifier / Minor rating and previous Major results
2019-08-27 01:42
#136
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Turkey xxxjet3 
-Crazy -Worst team Pick one Crazy better than Ence(no aug no win) , Renegades(no aug no win) , mibr(playing with zews) , Faze(niko chokes) , Nip(bot_right) for sure
2019-08-26 22:03
Niko 30 bomb against mouz, niko doesn't choke in group stages
2019-08-27 02:11
Team qualified for the legend stage are based on last major results. Making Astralis #1 and ENCE #2.
2019-08-26 22:03
no berlin.wa.vg/ got it out of liquipedia btw
2019-08-26 22:15
What is that ?
2019-08-26 22:15
click on live elo system and then go to legends stage liquipedia.net/counterstrike/StarLadder/.. its the elos
2019-08-26 22:16
No the elo ranking system starts to determine the next rounds based on results of past game (not happened yet)+initial seeding (what we are discussing). The board pictured on liquipedia is not being said to be related to seeds.
2019-08-26 22:21
liquid is second followed by ence, then navi faze, vitality , mibr renegades the last major sort of have an impact but it's not fully
2019-08-26 22:16
If they were they wouldn't face a 3-5th team of the qualifier, while ENCE face a 6-8th
2019-08-26 22:17
its not based on the qualifier is what other teams think is the best team and vatality wouldnt be facing another "qualifying" team
2019-08-26 22:19
Yes that could be indeed a solution. But I hardly believe they contacted all the team within the 5 minutes after Vitality win over GH to be able to give us that ranking. I agree that north/vitality is not accurate with last major ranking.
2019-08-26 22:27
They ranked the teams before the qualifier So it was a rank between 1-24 with all of the teams
2019-08-26 22:57
Yes maybe. But if so, why Astralis is in front of Liquid. As every pro acknowledge Liquid is the current top #1 Previously we had link to a scan where their ranking was written and who voted what. Any chance to get this one if it happened this way?
2019-08-26 23:03
#81
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Russia amc20 
Why Nip vs mibr and north vs vitality? Should legends be playing challengers?
2019-08-26 21:57
Only 1st round. Not single elimination.
2019-08-26 22:00
Lmao mibr nip clash of trash
2019-08-26 21:57
#228
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Laos El_Cholo 
Dont worry, Ence will loose vs Avangar....becouse they loose to anyone nowadays, hahahahahahahahahahahaha
2019-08-26 22:29
#83
tiziaN | 
Germany FREIER 
8/9 pickems
2019-08-26 21:57
#84
tarik | 
Morocco Most! 
Let's fkin goooo I'm so hyped
2019-08-26 21:57
omg so fucking hot navi x g2 faze x mouz
2019-08-26 21:58
ENCE > AVANGAR Astralis > DreamEaters Renegades < NRG Liquid > CR4ZY Vitality < North FaZe < mousesports Natus vincere > G2 MIBR < NiP
2019-08-26 21:58
#295
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United States NA1L_ 
ENCE will go 0-3 cause aleksib is pissed and its going to be so bad playing with a team that wants you kicked
2019-08-26 23:46
#310
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Brazil DinooxP 
I think MiBR will surprise nip and win because it's not fallen who is in igl role and zews seem to be doing a god job on map picks
2019-08-27 00:16
#90
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Poland KasPro 
Bruh Faze - Mouz again haha
2019-08-26 21:58
Mouz fazexD
2019-08-26 21:58
#95
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Turkey xxxjet3 
Rigged draw Mibr and Nip both worst teams even and Avangar would beat them both
2019-08-26 21:58
Karrigan>faze
2019-08-26 21:59
#99
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Finland Smoonah 
easiest pickums of my life
2019-08-26 21:59
#100
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Brazil P4uloVisk 
lets go MIBR !!!
2019-08-26 21:59
#105
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Netherlands KendraLust 
MiBR will GeT _right..... S1mple for KennyS Liquid will be Crazy What FaZe for mouz.. North has Vitality NRG will renegade neverEZ4ence
2019-08-26 22:00
hahah dreameaters get rekht
2019-08-26 22:00
#108
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Australia TeBo 
So the seedings are 1. Astralis 2. Liquid 3. ENCE 4. NRG 5. NaVi 6. Vitality 7. FaZe 8. MiBR 9. NiP 10. Mousesports 11. North 12. G2 13. Renegades 14. AVANGAR 15. CR4ZY 16. DreamEaters
2019-08-26 22:00
#130
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Czech Republic nenz 
thats trash, more likely it is random
2019-08-26 22:02
#150
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Myanmar xdcc 
its not random. its based on rankings march 4-august 12. same as the one before tho i think his prediction is wrong. this site probably more accurate (just select legends stage) berlin.wa.vg/
2019-08-26 22:05
#383
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Czech Republic nenz 
ok ty
2019-08-28 14:56
#182
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Myanmar xdcc 
1. astralis 2. liquid 3. ence 4. navi 5. faze 6. vitality 7. mibr 8. renegades 9. nrg 10. nip 11. north 12. mousesports 13. g2 14. avangar 15. cr4zy 16. dreameaters
2019-08-26 22:13
#182
2019-08-26 22:19
EZ4ENCE
2019-08-26 22:01
Ence 3-0 NIP 0-3 Mouz, Lulquid, Astralis, NaVi 3-2, Vitality 3-1, NRG/North 3-2, FaZe 3-2
2019-08-26 22:02
Cr4zy 3-0 quote me later
2019-08-26 22:03
NiP just win against zews and you won’t play minor in half a year
2019-08-26 22:03
Mibr vs nip? But g2 vs navi K
2019-08-26 22:03
#142
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Brazil Eletron 
MIBR 3-2
2019-08-26 22:04
#144
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Ukraine s1v9mple 
Astralis first seed? Wtf is this shit?
2019-08-26 22:04
#145
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Brazil syncme 
if the brazilian line up manage to get legend status again after +lucas1 -cold +zews, something weird is going on
2019-08-26 22:04
#311
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Brazil DinooxP 
Not weird just gonna be for Honor after the cs that furia and intz showed up, and if the go 0-3 would be horrible to have they in the qualifier smurfing
2019-08-27 00:18
Again faze vs Mouz XD
2019-08-26 22:04
ENCE vs. AVANGAR : I dont care Astralis vs. DreamEaters : EZ4Blastralis Renegades vs. NRG : Whatever Liquid vs. CR4ZY : Very Interesting Vitality vs. North : Ok FaZe vs. mousesports : Very Spicy Natus Vincere vs. G2 : The best match from the first round MIBR vs. NiP : Tier 2 Match
2019-08-26 22:08
WE DON:"T CARE ABOUT YOU PRIDUROK BLAT
2019-08-26 23:13
#152
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Poland GamBitF4N 
GO GO CRAZY !
2019-08-26 22:05
#153
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Poland MaTHeOOO 
ENCE > AVANGAR Astalis > DreamEaters NRG > Renegades Liquid > CR4ZY Vitality < North FaZe < mousesports Natus Vincere > G2 MIBR > Ninjas in Pyjamas
2019-08-26 22:05
+1
2019-08-26 22:12
#312
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Brazil DinooxP 
+1
2019-08-27 00:18
#155
huyak | 
Albania deeq1 
Vitality 0-3 please , fucking penguin
2019-08-26 22:06
Here are your winners below. ENCE Astralis NRG Liquid North mousesports Natus Vincere NiP
2019-08-26 22:06
Makes no sense, why mibr vs nip? I tought this first round was legends vs new challengers...
2019-08-26 22:06
#160
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World Notb8ing 
"StarLadder used HLTV.org's rankings between March 4 and August 12 as a seeding tool for the first round."
2019-08-26 22:07
ty
2019-08-26 22:08
Ence, Astralis and Liquid have brain dead first opponents, Na'Vi gets G2 EX DEE
2019-08-26 22:07
#164
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World Notb8ing 
"StarLadder used HLTV.org's rankings between March 4 and August 12 as a seeding tool for the first round." It is just about ur ranking during the time period
2019-08-26 22:08
Imagine using a relatively biased site to seed your Major tournament
2019-08-26 22:19
#208
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World Notb8ing 
pretty sure every site is biased... Regardless HLTV ranking is only about teams stats rather than ones opinion so I don't think it is very unfair ranking when it comes to having bias anyway so not sure what you on about.
2019-08-26 22:29
Gosugamers way of ranking teams based on stats is usually a lot more accurate
2019-08-26 22:36
#246
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World Notb8ing 
Can't take ranking where chiefs and order are in top 20 seriously, obviously very flawed ranking...
2019-08-26 22:39
Activity is one of the biggest things about their ranking, and then winning and taking Elo from the team you beat. Teams playing more during the break/training time before a major will likely jump up in the rankings while the teams focusing on practicing for major will stagnate no?
2019-08-26 22:43
#257
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World Notb8ing 
order has not played a single lan event this whole year, yet they are in top 20, it just isn't ranking that u can even consider possibly be legimate honestly.
2019-08-26 22:47
#165
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Brazil Charizaldo 
yikes
2019-08-26 22:08
ENCE Astralis NRG Liquid Vitality Mouz G2 NIP
2019-08-26 22:09
#173
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Canada thelegend27 
mibr vs nip clownfiesta
2019-08-26 22:10
ENCE ASTRALIS NRG LIQUID VITALITY MOUZ G2 MIBR
2019-08-26 22:11
#178
zonic | 
Denmark Phoey 
Should’nt it be Vitality v MIBR and North v NIP? Why is everyone but these Legends/New Legends?
2019-08-26 22:12
It's because StarLadder used our ranking as a seeding tool. That's why Vitality have a higher seed than North, for example, even though they were 3-2 in the New Challengers Stage and the Danes were 3-0.
2019-08-26 22:14
#298
zonic | 
Denmark Phoey 
I’m aware. But would make more sense to pair best legend against worst new legend. Every other matchup looks like they’ve done so. These two are The standouts
2019-08-26 23:53
EZ4ENCE
2019-08-26 22:12
MIBR vs NIP????? WHY ARE THESE SEEDINGS SO FUCKING TRASH
2019-08-26 22:15
wtf is this seeding
2019-08-26 22:15
Finland ENCE vs. Kazakhstan AVANGAR - AVANGAR Denmark Astralis vs. Russia DreamEaters - Asstralis Australia Renegades vs. United States NRG - NRG United States Liquid vs. Serbia CR4ZY - CR4ZY France Vitality vs. Denmark North - North Europe FaZe vs. Europe mousesports - mousesports Russia Natus Vincere vs. France G2 - G2 Brazil MIBR vs. Sweden NiP - MIBR
2019-08-26 22:17
#299
zonic | 
Denmark Phoey 
NAVI > G2 and this is accurate
2019-08-26 23:54
#197
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United Kingdom Nox31 
This is going to be hard for G2 but I think they will be able to do it
2019-08-26 22:17
Great matches! Ence > Avangar Astralis > Dreameaters Nrg > Renegades Liquid > CR4ZY Vitality > North Mouz > Faze (Going to be close) NaVi > G2 NIP > MIBR
2019-08-26 22:17
On paper i agree with you totally.
2019-08-26 22:20
Wowwwww the matches are insane except astralis and nip one xdd
2019-08-26 22:18
#202
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Brazil Vicmar 
Just another ez major for NiP
2019-08-26 22:19
+1
2019-08-26 22:23
#209
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United Kingdom aight_bet 
mouz vs faze first match Pog.
2019-08-26 22:21
Astralis vs DE 99.9% Astralis wins this 2-0
2019-08-26 22:22
Best of 1 matches 2-0 ok
2019-08-26 22:27
16-6 then
2019-08-28 10:04
bo1
2019-08-26 22:34
Ez 4 NiP
2019-08-26 22:23
Worst 2 teams playing against eachother xaxaxa
2019-08-26 22:25
you have to be crazy to take on Liquid on the first round
2019-08-26 22:25
WHY ITS ALWAYS FUCKING NAVI VS G2 FAZE VS MOUZ NIP VS MIBR FFS
2019-08-26 22:25
#219
f0rest | 
China ZerOck 
GL NiP
2019-08-26 22:25
Mibr vs NIP battle of the crippled ♿♿♿♿♿♿♿♿
2019-08-26 22:26
#221
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Russia NOD777 
I’m surprised. Matches looking some way unpredictable I see only astralis destroyin DE
2019-08-26 22:26
#314
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Germany grabke 
Did you saw DE play the last days ??? Doubt Astralis destroys them. On TOP Bo1 anything can happen all teams can upset....
2019-08-27 00:26
#322
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Russia NOD777 
No no no. DE said they were unprepared for forze didn’t watch their demos or analyzed them and said that they will chilling and enjoy new legend stage. Thats the direct way to 0-3
2019-08-27 01:19
#224
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World LeviathaNz 
I don't understand these seedings. Why can't they seed the returning legends 1st according to the HLTV ranking. And then seed the second wave of teams coming from the challengers stage, according to their placing in the qualification stage?! So you don't have these stupid matchups, Vitality vs North, MIBR vs NiP...
2019-08-26 22:31
#226
shrek | 
New Zealand is_love 
Nip or mibr 0-3
2019-08-26 22:28
#229
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United States Envsion 
NaVi 3-0 Renegades 0-3
2019-08-26 22:30
#230
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Poland Kleigen 
ENCE Astralis NRG Liquid North FaZe Natus Vincere MIBR
2019-08-26 22:31
NVM
2019-08-26 22:42
Nicw
2019-08-26 22:31
#232
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Myanmar aligholiz77 
Pickem time guys.
2019-08-26 22:32
NORTH VS VITALITY ALWAYS POG AND ALWAYS NORTH WINNING
2019-08-26 22:33
Crazy gonna destroy lulquid lmao
2019-08-26 22:35
ENCE AST NRG Liquid North (because of the last stage but vitality probably wins) Mouz Navi Nip
2019-08-26 22:36
Faze vs Crazy should be nice matchup
2019-08-26 22:39
Astralis 1st seed. Nice major
2019-08-26 22:41
#256
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Finland Tusku 
this seeding system is actually an fn joke
2019-08-26 22:47
#261
woxic | 
Turkey B0RUCU 
ENCE >= AVANGAR (should be a close match.) Astalis >> DreamEaters NRG >> Renegades Liquid >= CR4ZY (this match is fluke.) Vitality =< North ( Vit. per. is not good enough.) FaZe =< mousesports ( close match.) Natus Vincere >= G2 (match of the day.) MIBR << Ninjas in Pyjamas ( easy for Nip for sure.)
2019-08-26 22:54
lol Astralis TOP 1a ahahahahhaah
2019-08-26 22:55
#265
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Australia Boostral 
Ez4RNG
2019-08-26 23:00
Astralis vs. worst team even though Liquid #1. Keep it up with the EU bias.
2019-08-26 23:04
#270
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Czech Republic Dur4ngo 
Mouz atleast 3-1 EZ
2019-08-26 23:07
So sad for Astralis. They will have 0-1 after first match....
2019-08-26 23:11
#274
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France Revitalize 
Dumb seeding
2019-08-26 23:12
#275
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Greenland kinley377 
2019-08-26 23:13
ENCE got the easiest matchup wtf
2019-08-26 23:15
#279
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Argentina kratoS_fsa 
Ence,astralis,nrg,liquid,Vitality,mouse,navi,mibr
2019-08-26 23:18
NaVi vs G2 is gonna be hell of match
2019-08-26 23:19
its gonna be ez loose for g2 not a fan of natus
2019-08-26 23:48
#281
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Russia AR4ER 
what a great matches....wow!
2019-08-26 23:20
ENCE < AVANGAR Astralis > DreamEaters Renegades < NRG Liquid > CR4ZY Vitality < North FaZe <mousesports Natus Vincere > G2 MIBR > NiP
2019-08-26 23:21
#283
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Brazil vass28 
GL Fallen
2019-08-26 23:24
too ez for nip
2019-08-26 23:28
#290
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Brazil jeduardo23 
Lets see what Astralis and Liquid do against the cis teams. Ez4G2 and Ez4MIBR
2019-08-26 23:38
#292
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United States Schafer 
how tf does liquid not get the top seed? I dont get it.
2019-08-26 23:41
#293
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Turkey partyoctopus 
NA seeding
2019-08-26 23:43
lul karrigan vs FaZe again.
2019-08-26 23:44
#301
LaimB | 
Lithuania Martis 
Poor Liquid, first round against EU powerhouse Cr4zy
2019-08-27 00:01
Show me your pickem for legends stage
2019-08-27 00:10
#307
NiKo | 
Serbia smiley69 
Ez4CR4ZY , Poor liquid
2019-08-27 00:11
The two of the worst teams in this stage face each other in the first round matchup. Wtf is the point of seeding if this happens
2019-08-27 00:12
ez for Renegades
2019-08-27 00:24
MIBR vs NIP feels like deluxe tier 3 drilling.
2019-08-27 00:30
#316
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Thailand hahahoha 
why do vitality play north who also came from challenger?
2019-08-27 00:32
astralis 0-1
2019-08-27 00:54
Liquid vs Cr4zy is a level of bullshit I didn’t expect to see
2019-08-27 00:55
With NiP vs Mibr what ten fuck is this shit
2019-08-27 01:02
its strong vs strong and shit vs shit, for the viewer its actually pretty decent the way it is
2019-08-27 01:49
True, but I’m not looking for good games in the first round
2019-08-27 02:20
EZ not watching a single round of this shit game.
2019-08-27 01:09
#321
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Brazil Collee 
washed up in brazil vs washed up in pyjamas rofl
2019-08-27 01:11
#325
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Serbia Freeman021 
Cr4zy will win vs Liquid, thank me later.
2019-08-27 01:56
#334
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China kazuk1 
ez win
2019-08-27 03:59
Rooting for my boys. Whatever happens. Let's go! :))
2019-08-27 04:19
FaZe vs Mouz again. The whole karrigan against his former teammates was juicy but kind of getting boring. Want to see Mouz vs Astralis or Liquid. Hopefully will see that later.
2019-08-27 05:25
LETS GO LIQUID
2019-08-27 07:20
EZ4BOOMIb4
2019-08-27 08:35
#350
kennyS | 
Philippines VK1901 
ENCE > AVANGAR Astralis < DreamEaters Renegades < NRG Liquid < CR4ZY Vitality < North FaZe > mousesports Natus Vincere < G2 MIBR > NiP Place your bets boys.
2019-08-27 09:10
"Astralis < DE" "Liquid<CR4ZY" 0/8
2019-08-27 10:05
#377
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Serbia Freeman021 
Cr4zy will upset. Thank mr later.
2019-08-27 18:45
They have a chance but a priori it is not rational to predict their win. But yes CR4ZY looks very good with huNter, nexa and EspiranTo
2019-08-28 10:23
I see a lots of upsets right here like avangar , dreameaters or north.
2019-08-27 09:44
Lol rediculous seeding. Astralis won the last major but Liquid is Top 1 for a good amount of time now. Astralis gets DE while Liquid gets Cr4zy. I have the feeling that Astralis always somehow gets the easy teams
2019-08-27 10:04
ENCE > AVANGAR Astralis > DreamEaters Renegades < NRG Liquid > CR4ZY Vitality > North FaZe < mouz NaVi < G2 mibr < NiP
2019-08-27 10:06
Crazy unlucky to get liq first game
2019-08-27 10:16
True, CR4ZY and DE have the hardest opponents but at least CR4ZY lookes very solid during qualifier.
2019-08-28 10:24
Avangar, DE, NRG, Liquid, Vitality, Mous, NAVI, NIP ez bet
2019-08-27 22:49
avangar astralis renegades liquid north mouz navi nip lets see how accurate it will be.
2019-08-28 07:02
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