Vitality bench NBK-*

After the report about G2 scouring the market for two new players, the other top French team, Vitality, have announced that they are benching Nathan "NBK-" Schmitt.

Vitality broke out earlier this year, winning cs_summit 4 and the ECS Season 7 Finals, and became a regular making playoff runs at Big Events, eventually landing the #2 spot on the world ranking in July behind Liquid.

NBK- has been moved to the bench

Good results aside, Vitality’s hopes of making a deep run at a Major were halted early in Berlin despite making it out of the group stage with victories over FaZe, North, and mousesports, and their only loss coming in a two-map series against ENCE. AVANGAR, the first team to secure a bert in the grand final, was the team that stopped Mathieu "ZywOo" Herbaut and company on their tracks with a 2-1 series win in the quarter-finals.

According to information gathered by 1pv.fr, tensions had been mounting within Vitality for the past few months, causing a rift between NBK-—who recently lost his role as leader and captain—and the rest of the team, which eventually ended in the player's benching.

Some names have been leaked as possible substitutes, such as that of Fabien "kioShiMa" Fiey, although no decisions on the matter have been made as of yet.

With NBK- on the bench, Vitality's roster looks as follows:

France Mathieu "ZywOo" Herbaut
France Dan "apEX" Madesclaire
France Cédric "RpK" Guipouy
United Kingdom Alex "ALEX" McMeekin

France Rémy "XTQZZZ" Quoniam (coach)

France Nathan "NBK-" Schmitt (benched)

* The report was confirmed by Vitality at the time of publishing.

France Nathan 'NBK-' Schmitt
Nathan 'NBK-' Schmitt
Age:
25
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
1.04
Maps played:
1652
KPR:
0.70
DPR:
0.66
APR:
0.15
France Cédric 'RpK' Guipouy
Cédric 'RpK' Guipouy
Age:
30
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.98
Maps played:
1199
KPR:
0.67
DPR:
0.69
APR:
0.13
France Mathieu 'ZywOo' Herbaut
Mathieu 'ZywOo' Herbaut
Age:
18
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.30
Maps played:
499
KPR:
0.88
DPR:
0.62
APR:
0.13
United Kingdom Alex 'ALEX' McMeekin
Alex 'ALEX' McMeekin
Age:
23
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.01
Maps played:
883
KPR:
0.71
DPR:
0.71
APR:
0.13
France Dan 'apEX' Madesclaire
Dan 'apEX' Madesclaire
Age:
26
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.05
Maps played:
1486
KPR:
0.74
DPR:
0.70
APR:
0.16
France Rémy 'XTQZZZ' Quoniam
Rémy 'XTQZZZ' Quoniam
Age:
-
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
0.61
Maps played:
2
KPR:
0.48
DPR:
0.80
APR:
0.20
France Fabien 'kioShiMa' Fiey
Fabien 'kioShiMa' Fiey
Age:
25
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
1.02
Maps played:
1174
KPR:
0.68
DPR:
0.64
APR:
0.15
+shox for sure decent upgrade!
2019-09-07 19:29
How fast
2019-09-07 19:29
what do you mean?
2019-09-07 19:30
How fast your F5 key is work
2019-09-07 19:30
#62
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Sweden Unluko 
Lol
2019-09-07 19:31
Unluko would know about this subject obviously
2019-09-07 19:48
expected NBK IS SO BAD THANKS VITALITY
2019-09-07 19:54
Wait wut? Definitely unexpected.
2019-09-07 20:55
0.84 rating in the major what a bot lol
2019-09-07 22:38
#440
 | 
United Kingdom The_Doctor 
Major + Ence = Bad cocktail
2019-09-08 00:30
#574
 | 
Finland enzoi 
liquid + major=even worse coctail tho
2019-09-09 13:33
Unluko
2019-09-08 10:52
F5 key?
2019-09-07 19:32
Nice one :->
2019-09-07 19:43
#324
 | 
Argentina MrRioKai 
Lul
2019-09-07 20:23
#446
 | 
Switzerland Infi2k 
EZ for him #NoRuski-inet
2019-09-08 01:45
nice englando omegalul
2019-09-08 08:45
he means you don't last long in bed
2019-09-07 19:30
#201
 | 
India spiderCAKE 
lmao rekt
2019-09-07 19:46
nah
2019-09-07 19:30
#134
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Canada LongBaguette 
My guess it's a trade between G2, NBK goes to G2 and shox to vitality
2019-09-07 19:40
Shox on vitality without having to ingame lead would be amazing. He could perhaps return to his old form of SHOXIEJESUS
2019-09-07 19:44
#417
 | 
North America Straf3R 
Bonus is that he could call if needed. He wasn't half bad
2019-09-07 22:24
SHOXIEJESUS + ZywOo? A man can only get so erect.
2019-09-08 12:49
#310
cocada | 
Brazil Xeruh 
Wasn't NBK the one who used to fight with KennyS on the same team?
2019-09-07 20:15
No it was nbk and shox
2019-09-07 20:34
#460
cocada | 
Brazil Xeruh 
Thanks men))))
2019-09-08 06:04
#357
 | 
United Kingdom shmilx 
If this happens, I'll have to change my flair to Vitality
2019-09-07 20:46
no, NBK want try to go in international team
2019-09-08 00:34
Alex is a brit, so..
2019-09-08 08:54
But he speaks french
2019-09-08 09:30
ikr, just saying it's an international team in theory
2019-09-08 09:32
#521
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France LeDiplomate 
Bad bait
2019-09-08 11:50
go !gg baguette that was not a bait
2019-09-08 11:54
"in theory" is meaningless, if the whole team spoke French, and all of them did it on a native level. Point that "Retard_Detector" at yourself if you wanna argue weak semantics points like this, and let the detector go crazy.
2019-09-08 12:55
Bad bait
2019-09-08 13:31
I think that’s a really good guess. Makes a lot of sense honestly
2019-09-08 02:03
yes, it isnt big upgrade
2019-09-08 08:45
#579
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France FRANCES0192 
+ show - rpk + kennys =...................? ez major
2019-09-09 18:14
#21
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Germany Landwirt 
+Lucky would be better
2019-09-07 19:30
#109
 | 
Finland trashsports 
Lol. Lucky is ABSOLUTE trash player. Shox will be huge upgrade for Vitality
2019-09-07 19:37
#131
 | 
Poland sosiad 
+1
2019-09-07 19:39
#161
CeRq | 
Czech Republic buznogej 
+1
2019-09-07 19:42
Lol. Shoxie is ABSOLUTE trash player. Anyone but him will be huge upgrade for Vitality
2019-09-07 19:42
flair checks out
2019-09-07 19:54
#272
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United Kingdom EKersh 
+1 your flair checks out
2019-09-07 20:00
somebody once told me
2019-09-07 20:20
#322
kennyS | 
United States RiseCS 
The world is gonna roll me
2019-09-07 20:21
I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed
2019-09-07 20:57
#388
kennyS | 
United States RiseCS 
She was looking kind of dumb with her finger and her thumb
2019-09-07 21:05
In the shape of an L on her forehead
2019-09-07 21:37
IN THE SHAPE OF AN L ON HER FOREHEAD
2019-09-07 21:38
#398
NiKo | 
North America Ev1s 
I'm looking kinda dumb
2019-09-07 21:17
#563
Edward | 
Ethiopia aro420 
shox is trash igl not player, if he will back to his lurk role he will be again very strong player
2019-09-09 01:04
he is an ego maniac trash toxic player
2019-09-09 18:10
No Kio no major am I right?
2019-09-09 05:24
#238
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Germany Landwirt 
sarcasm
2019-09-07 19:52
mmmmmmmmm
2019-09-09 18:08
+1
2019-09-07 22:02
Excuse me zeolikk wtf
2019-09-07 19:48
#233
 | 
Germany Landwirt 
yes
2019-09-07 19:52
#37
cR4zY | 
Myanmar xdcc 
nbk back to g2? but who will replace the other player? 🤔🤔
2019-09-07 19:30
#91
 | 
France ItsRexam 
Nbk wont come back, it was not a good périod of his life
2019-09-07 19:35
#284
TenZ | 
Brazil SkindCS 
GOD KIO
2019-09-07 20:06
#326
 | 
Argentina MrRioKai 
I hope
2019-09-07 20:23
#566
TenZ | 
Brazil SkindCS 
let's pray hermano.
2019-09-09 03:47
Waste of article when vitality already announced he got kicked
2019-09-07 19:30
#336
mezii | 
United Kingdom salad! 
ah yes because everyone on hltv follows vitality's twitter
2019-09-07 20:33
#378
 | 
Sweden Bakkmann 
+1
2019-09-07 20:59
+1
2019-09-08 09:13
#58
STYKO | 
Norway AdNiB 
Not even an upgrade
2019-09-07 19:31
Not an upgrade.. shox requires a free role. Zywoo got that role.. He will just make vitality even worse.
2019-09-07 19:31
#560
 | 
Macau fAKEs2j 
"Even worst", top2
2019-09-09 00:19
+1 now -rpk +kenny
2019-09-07 19:35
#189
 | 
Sweden Zaser5 
WHY?
2019-09-07 19:44
shox + kennys + zywoo + Any igl + apEX EZ 5 majora in a row
2019-09-07 19:50
Thisss
2019-09-07 20:37
Yeah, how about no? Having France's two best AWPs on the same team does NOT equal anything except chaos and one of the two slumping like hell.
2019-09-07 21:05
+1
2019-09-07 22:01
#416
 | 
Sweden Zaser5 
Thats my point
2019-09-07 22:22
what about the time KQLY and kenny played in titan and dominated? apart from the fact that KQLY cheated, but still they had some great results and i actually doubt he cheated on lan... so yeh not the first team to be really strong with 2 awpers
2019-09-07 22:54
They were strong, but they never did anything at all. Saying they would do if KQLY wasn't banned is just guesswork. Over time, two awpers will be chaos, it's an extra $2000 each round you run double AWPs, and a weaker setup the second you run one of your AWPers with a rifle due to money. And who should main AWP?
2019-09-08 21:57
Just what in the world are you talking about? Having 2 awpers in a team is completely fine. It really varies how the team does their line-up. These pros can ALL awp and yes, they're actually better than you think. Just because you don't see them using awp doesn't mean they can't use it. They just don't prefer to use it depending on the map and role but many times there are 2 players using awp in a team depending on the situation and map like Astralis, Magisk or dupreeh would be awping together with Device on some occasion. So KennyS and Zywoo awping is completely fine. However, Zywoo can use a rifle extremely well and they would obviously go over this before deciding what to do so if kennyS and Zywoo would be in a team together, kennyS would pick up the awp more often while Zywoo would be doing what he wants (using awp or rifle). Overall, there won't be any "chaos". They're obviously going to go over it and make it work.
2019-09-13 18:51
no thanks lol.
2019-09-07 20:46
Cry more haterrs
2019-09-07 22:08
#115
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African Union csarmani 
this can either destroy vitality or make them top1,depends how shox plays when he is not the first option by far.
2019-09-07 19:37
#130
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Indonesia tsokai 
Not an upgrade, if its +kenny then yes its an upgrade
2019-09-07 19:39
worst bait ever
2019-09-07 19:56
#263
 | 
Indonesia tsokai 
Not even a bait brah. Vitality would be way more better with Kenny main awp and Zywoo back to rifle, sadly Kenny is going nowhere
2019-09-07 19:58
#304
 | 
Sweden Techyo 
they already have Zywoo, why would they need another awper?
2019-09-07 20:12
Zywoo never played main awp, he is rifler but every player sucks with an awp so he had to play it
2019-09-07 20:34
#415
 | 
Sweden Techyo 
From liquipedia: Role: AWPer
2019-09-07 22:20
yeah he is an awper on vitality becouse everyone sucks with it in vitality, he is much better with rifle.
2019-09-08 10:43
shox is shit and an ego maniac. If you think NBK caused issues you dont know shox the diva. Ez for fxy0
2019-09-07 19:42
#235
TenZ | 
Germany miinus 
+1 on name
2019-09-07 19:52
Shox is IGL, they got rid of NBK because Alex is a better IGL and NBK is dead weight. Why would they get another IGL in his stead?
2019-09-07 20:02
I don’t get it. Why did they chose to keep RpK over NBK. I know RpK started to step up. But just not worth it, you know.
2019-09-07 20:08
#389
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Argentina nymeros 
RpK is the mood and temper pillar of the team. Everyone on the team says so. Also he's doing well atm, so is better to have a united team right now
2019-09-07 21:06
#350
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United Kingdom shmilx 
Hopefully he gets added, and told to shut up and just frag the fuck out
2019-09-07 20:44
Shox is not an igl
2019-09-08 09:31
Who is G2 IGL then, according to you?
2019-09-08 09:40
Shox (+ a bit of amanek from what I gather), but shox is not meant to be a leader, he's meant to be a fragger, I don't even think shox himself wants to be an igl.
2019-09-08 09:56
Like Xizt? Made IGL only because nobody else can do it but really just wants another role? (In Xizt's case that'd be secondary/lurk.)
2019-09-08 12:03
yeah
2019-09-08 12:17
NBK was the problem since the beginning
2019-09-07 20:16
#444
shox | 
India Adarsh1 
LOL
2019-09-08 01:17
Probably not coz they are removing NBK due to double IGL issues adding shox won't be beneficial for Team Vitality
2019-09-08 05:22
#571
 | 
France Francesco01 
That would be insane i think
2019-09-09 10:28
they say they dont want 2 igls a anymore and you say shox is coming? lol.... shox is an igl xD. It could be coldzera joining.... that would be insane actually
2019-09-09 10:59
#2
 | 
Norway CheNaLii 
kk my F5 key is broken now
2019-09-07 19:29
#5
 | 
Norway CheNaLii 
and i even lost :(
2019-09-07 19:29
feelsbad
2019-09-07 19:29
#113
 | 
Norway CheNaLii 
oh well. well played man, but ill get you next time :)
2019-09-07 19:37
i hope so))
2019-09-07 19:38
#420
 | 
Europe _jUNGLE 
are you guys scripting to get 1st or what?
2019-09-07 22:28
#28
 | 
India Narendra_modi 
xaxaxa feelsbadman
2019-09-07 19:30
F5
2019-09-07 19:29
Well yes, but actually no
2019-09-07 19:38
#4
 | 
Russia ToughGuy 
nice
2019-09-07 19:29
oh come on
2019-09-07 19:29
#529
 | 
Poland pog 
haha nice nickname
2019-09-08 12:14
league of legends has more drakes, checkmate fortnite
2019-09-08 13:04
#7
 | 
Portugal Agricultor 
I really like him
2019-09-07 19:29
#8
 | 
Czech Republic Noxar 
NOOO SHOX WHY
2019-09-07 19:29
#9
 | 
Brazil bernog 
ITS ALREADY CONFIRMED
2019-09-07 19:29
so many players benched
2019-09-07 19:30
SHOXE.
2019-09-07 19:30
YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO WTFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
2019-09-07 19:30
#16
OCEAN | 
Europe Tema1 
Woah
2019-09-07 19:30
bait threads on the main page maxlul
2019-09-07 19:30
#18
 | 
Israel TheLoveGuy 
I T S C O N F I R M E D
2019-09-07 19:30
oh now i get why he was so nervous on twitter
2019-09-07 19:30
#22
 | 
Netherlands PATOZR 
get shox but let him sign a contract that hes not gonna take over the IGL role
2019-09-07 19:30
#23
 | 
Finland jonttu 
Bad move
2019-09-07 19:30
Trade shox for NBK lol?
2019-09-07 19:30
Really unexpected
2019-09-07 19:30
#26
Zeus | 
Spain Alexsna 
its not a report, its official
2019-09-07 19:30
#27
 | 
France Uexo 
WTF
2019-09-07 19:30
#29
Jamppi | 
Russia b0v1k 
AH SHIT FRANCE SHUFLES HERE WE GO AGAIN
2019-09-07 19:30
#30
 | 
France EyalSword 
Well it's official, WTF IS HAPPENING
2019-09-07 19:30
#31
ropz | 
Malta ciORAN_NT 
OMG Vitality Shox 1pv confirmed
2019-09-07 19:30
#32
 | 
France FanchD 
WTF IS GOING ON LMAO
2019-09-07 19:30
#33
ropz | 
Estonia cluv 
wOW
2019-09-07 19:30
nbk 2faced toledo removed shox 2faced toledo in
2019-09-07 19:30
#35
 | 
Poland Weaselqq 
Vitality +shox G2 +NBK
2019-09-07 19:30
Hell no
2019-09-08 09:21
wow
2019-09-07 19:30
wtf
2019-09-07 19:30
#40
ZywOo | 
United States akuz56 
How can they ponder it when they just tweeted it out lol
2019-09-07 19:30
#41
FalleN | 
Brazil drluc4s 
XOQUIS COME
2019-09-07 19:30
#42
 | 
France J0riS 
WTFFF NBENCHED-K
2019-09-07 19:30
#43
 | 
Other delmaszm 
Dyou think he knew about that before the major? He played so poorly I hope we're not looking at another french shuffle.. Need to see new talents
2019-09-07 19:30
Ooooh noooo
2019-09-07 19:30
#47
tot | 
Turkey totot 
WHY THIS IS SO FUCKING STUPID
2019-09-07 19:30
no
2019-09-07 19:52
#236
tot | 
Turkey totot 
wdym mensss very stupid
2019-09-07 19:52
#48
 | 
Czech Republic Kotvic 
+Happy If not then NO MAJOR for France any time soon!
2019-09-07 19:31
#66
 | 
Nepal AsKyEyY 
xD
2019-09-07 19:32
#104
 | 
Czech Republic Kotvic 
Nothing funny here m8 open your eyes.
2019-09-07 19:36
Yes! Happy is the only one capable of winning a Major with a French team for France!
2019-09-07 19:45
#274
 | 
Czech Republic Kotvic 
Exacly man (y) Finally someone has a brain here.
2019-09-07 20:01
#327
 | 
Moldova AJollyDoge 
Dude he's so washed out now. Playing for LDLC doesn't help either
2019-09-07 20:26
#49
 | 
Brazil bernog 
-RPK -NBK +SHOX +KIOSHIMA TOP 1
2019-09-07 19:31
#50
JW | 
Sweden Hasklon 
"the kingmaker" x D
2019-09-07 19:31
#517
shox | 
France KR1MEZ 
more like bench warmer
2019-09-08 11:21
#51
 | 
Italy Fil0Nerd 
already confirmed lmao, hltv what doing??
2019-09-07 19:31
#52
 | 
Indonesia tsokai 
Wat is dis shit, hope its not shox Fuck
2019-09-07 19:31
woah
2019-09-07 19:31
3 years too late
2019-09-07 19:31
#55
 | 
Brazil brguz 
NEW FRANCE TEAM
2019-09-07 19:31
ITS ALREADY CONFIRMED +SHOX
2019-09-07 19:31
#561
 | 
Macau fAKEs2j 
Link
2019-09-09 00:25
#57
 | 
Europe trey_ 
WHAT THE FUUUUUUCK
2019-09-07 19:31
NBENCHED
2019-09-07 19:31
Quite expected, if they replace apEX too, they have solid chance to dominate top3
2019-09-07 19:32
#63
 | 
Switzerland x676 
LUUUUUUL FR scene is a joke!!
2019-09-07 19:31
wtf
2019-09-07 19:32
WAT???
2019-09-07 19:32
Ahh shit, here we go again
2019-09-07 19:32
xd
2019-09-07 19:37
Although I like NBK- and the other guys, something needs to change in order for Vitality to become a consistent title contender
2019-09-07 19:32
- bot nice, gj! next -bot rpk and bot alex pls and ofc - zeus from navi please
2019-09-07 19:32
lmao already
2019-09-07 19:32
what the fuck
2019-09-07 19:32
#74
 | 
France iNolake 
WTF GUYS SHOX APEX ZYWOO RPK ALEX(igl) = VITALITY KIOSHIMA JACKZ KENNYS AMANEK (co-igl) NBK (IGL) = G2
2019-09-07 19:32
Unlucky bro , +kio
2019-09-07 19:32
#276
NAF | 
Canada Minami 
Yeah, not the best move here, but Apex won't play with Shox...
2019-09-07 20:02
#76
 | 
Macedonia trashbait 
NBKicked french shufle hype
2019-09-07 19:32
Shox?
2019-09-07 19:32
#78
byali | 
Poland LuMixi 
Unexpected destroy one of my favorite team
2019-09-07 19:32
#79
 | 
Brazil saurinha 
lol what
2019-09-07 19:33
#80
 | 
Europe xp3RT! 
+shox
2019-09-07 19:33
#81
tweeday | 
New Zealand Rabb5t 
??? WHAT???
2019-09-07 19:34
kick rpk omg not nbk 30yo
2019-09-07 19:34
#83
 | 
Chile nachooww 
wooooow
2019-09-07 19:34
#84
ZywOo | 
France Qaze 
Prediction : Vitality : - ZywOo - apEX - ALEX - RpK - shox G2 : - kennyS - AmaNeK - JackZ - NBK - kioshima
2019-09-07 19:34
G2 wants to go inter Even though we saw how it ends with mibr
2019-09-07 19:56
#278
NAF | 
Canada Minami 
Apex won't play with Shox
2019-09-07 20:02
And ?
2019-09-07 20:08
#301
NAF | 
Canada Minami 
Missed answer, it was for Qaze's fantasy teams
2019-09-07 20:11
#85
ZEDKO | 
Czech Republic stinx 
Unknown block node: BulletList{}
2019-09-07 19:34
nice
2019-09-07 19:34
finally, this guy was so lucky finding a top tier team again. Zywoo carrying this bot for the past year.
2019-09-07 19:34
-rpk too pls
2019-09-07 19:34
sNakBK finally benched, nice. Watch him try to ruin even more g2 and vitality from behind now.
2019-09-07 19:35
+1
2019-09-07 19:35
What rofl? I like the move though
2019-09-07 19:35
gg ez
2019-09-07 19:35
#94
s1 | 
Armenia gr1nch 
lmaoooooooooooo here we go major shuffles
2019-09-07 19:35
#95
 | 
Sweden meistr0 
Well. Expected since ALEX is the IGL. +Kioshima is the obv pick.
2019-09-07 19:36
#97
 | 
India Noobdian1 
What? XD
2019-09-07 19:35
MISTAKE
2019-09-07 19:35
not rpk because he drops krieg)) jk
2019-09-07 19:35
-rpk +mixwell/happy :>
2019-09-07 19:35
Body confirmed ?
2019-09-07 19:35
#102
 | 
Belgium jorneiro 
Holy shit v2
2019-09-07 19:36
What will Zywoo do without his flash assists? He had a sick teammate and all he did was crying about how Zywoo really wasn't so good, there was more pride on Fox dropping glocks that what some Vitality players did lately on interviews.
2019-09-07 19:36
Shoxie is flash assist god at the major
2019-09-07 19:48
#105
 | 
France Leskines 
SHOXIIIE YEHAH
2019-09-07 19:36
okay Franch CS
2019-09-07 19:36
unexpected
2019-09-07 19:36
NBenchedK-
2019-09-07 19:37
Sad for NBK :( .
2019-09-07 19:37
AVANGAR RUINED VITALITY AXAXAXAXA
2019-09-07 19:37
xaxaxaxaxa true.
2019-09-07 19:39
#137
 | 
France LanaRhoades 
Nah vitality ruined themselves, and it was needed, seriously they can't rely on zywoo all the time they need another star player
2019-09-07 19:40
#435
 | 
Nepal AsKyEyY 
yes but kicking nbk at first was bad idea
2019-09-08 00:03
i agree
2019-09-07 19:40
+ shox -rpk and apex ftw
2019-09-07 19:37
Lol ....
2019-09-07 19:40
#116
 | 
Finland UKSU 
Expected, but sad for legend nbk
2019-09-07 19:38
lol this was unexpected bring back 2015 envy roster and ez major for frenchies
2019-09-07 19:38
They definitely had to bench Rpk/Apex, Nbk was best player after Zywoo... :/ But actually G2 +NBK
2019-09-07 19:38
#121
NBK- | 
China Gnikiv 
...no fucking way... its why he played so badly at quarter-final ?
2019-09-07 19:39
+kioshima
2019-09-07 19:39
#125
 | 
Spain Holiwis 
kio or shox
2019-09-07 19:39
why??\
2019-09-07 19:39
#127
suNny | 
Russia YML1234 
+k1o
2019-09-07 19:39
Wtf is happening with these roster changes....
2019-09-07 19:39
#129
NiKo | 
Morocco royflord 
YIOOO SO UNEXPECTED
2019-09-07 19:39
WTF?
2019-09-07 19:40
#133
 | 
South America FAN_OF_M16R 
well french shuffle NBK going to G2 they need IGL shox going to Vitality they need more firepower
2019-09-07 19:40
nbk going nowhere. g2 wont pick up this bot for fucking shoxiejesus.
2019-09-07 19:40
#157
 | 
South America FAN_OF_M16R 
so G2 without IGL ? Shox was in-game leader
2019-09-07 19:41
amanek 200 iq igl
2019-09-07 19:43
#180
 | 
South America FAN_OF_M16R 
he isnt igl
2019-09-07 19:44
HE CAN he looks like a mastermind
2019-09-07 19:45
#199
 | 
South America FAN_OF_M16R 
glasses effect
2019-09-07 19:46
Je is already half igl
2019-09-07 19:58
#247
 | 
Poland kvvach 
it was duo igl shox and amanek
2019-09-07 19:54
#181
NiKo | 
Morocco royflord 
g2 needs firepower too
2019-09-07 19:44
#191
 | 
South America FAN_OF_M16R 
they has 2 slots, someone coming instead of lucky
2019-09-07 19:44
WTF UNEXpECTEDDDDDDDDDDDD SHoXIEEEEEEEE
2019-09-07 19:40
omg this issooo good. im gonna cum dude. ill fap to this now.
2019-09-07 19:40
#139
sodaH | 
Estonia rafio 
FRENCH SHUFFLE INC
2019-09-07 19:40
#140
 | 
Europe DonkeyShot_ 
This seems like a really stupid move to me.
2019-09-07 19:40
hahaha, finally nbk benched.. :D
2019-09-07 19:40
#142
 | 
Poland Kaja 
XD
2019-09-07 19:40
Great news!
2019-09-07 19:40
WTF????
2019-09-07 19:40
#147
 | 
Serbia MatadoreN98 
KIOSHIMA INCOMING LETS GOOO
2019-09-07 19:40
#148
 | 
Brazil sprk1 
that escalated quickly
2019-09-07 19:40
#149
 | 
France LanaRhoades 
"dOnT fUcKiNg bEnCh Us"
2019-09-07 19:41
Exactly what i thought
2019-09-07 19:43
#520
shox | 
France KR1MEZ 
karma is a bitch
2019-09-08 11:48
:( sad news, nbk great player great guy
2019-09-07 19:41
Good choice. He had an awful major and has looked rather unimpressive in this whole vitality project. He is not even the IGL anymore, so he should not be playing this poorly.
2019-09-07 19:41
he is a tier 5 bot. good move by vitality.
2019-09-07 19:42
#152
s1mple | 
Europe Sam2k 
expected
2019-09-07 19:41
#153
stavn | 
Denmark valt3rr 
"Vitality ponder about benching nbk" changed to this
2019-09-07 19:41
Good decision.
2019-09-07 19:41
Begone WoW player...no wonder his major performance was utter shit.
2019-09-07 19:41
Shox god
2019-09-07 19:41
#158
 | 
Israel QtaP 
welcome kio
2019-09-07 19:41
Shox to Vitality would be a good addition and a firepower increase
2019-09-07 19:42
SHOX SHOX SHOX SHOX
2019-09-07 19:42
#163
 | 
Turkey ao1 
WHAT THE FUCK IS ACTUALLY GOING ON
2019-09-07 19:42
OMG WTF IS GOING ON? IT IS ALL SO FAST
2019-09-07 19:42
LUL AVANGAR
2019-09-07 19:42
#169
sh1ro | 
Senegal rageN1x 
SHOXIE IS COMMING TO BATON COUNTRY TEAM!
2019-09-07 19:43
#170
 | 
Sri Lanka ImSpecial 
"first team to secure a bert in the grand final" hltv editors at their finest
2019-09-07 19:43
RIP
2019-09-07 19:43
Big F for NBK, hope he finds a new team soon Looking forward to more juicy roster moves
2019-09-07 19:43
AVANGAR beats G2 for quarter-finals spot: G2 lineup change afterwards AVANGAR beats Vitality for semi-finals spot: Vitality lineup change afterwards
2019-09-07 19:43
#239
 | 
France Static2k 
i hope they'll beat astralis
2019-09-07 19:52
not even close.
2019-09-09 09:28
FINALLY
2019-09-07 19:43
Zywoo doesn't frag -> Lol bye NBK it's your fault
2019-09-07 19:44
How many matches did he carry this bot lol
2019-09-07 20:00
As opposed to the whole team being trash when 1 player has a bad performance lol This is exactly like KennyS in Titan
2019-09-07 20:08
Obviously Vitality would be trash as soon as ZywOo had a bad game
2019-09-07 20:09
#179
 | 
North America DeximaD 
shox back to the lineup and make france CS great again
2019-09-07 19:44
#182
 | 
Finland JHdash77 
+shox -rpk +kio
2019-09-07 19:44
ALGA AVANGAR
2019-09-07 19:44
#184
 | 
Turkey montpaylit 
bot nbk lul
2019-09-07 19:44
#185
 | 
Sri Lanka ImSpecial 
-rpk +scream +shox ez top 1
2019-09-07 19:44
#186
 | 
Moldova OptimusBlyad 
Whaaa.....?
2019-09-07 19:44
bye bye snake!
2019-09-07 19:44
Why would shox go to vitality? Him and apex dont mesh because of his free playstyle. Zywoo is the same too. Very mobile. Shox loves control and players who listen to his every word.
2019-09-07 19:44
it was a matter of whenever he would stop overperforming. Was great to watch while it lasted. I hope rpk and apex can stay consistent.
2019-09-07 19:44
plzzzz jackzzzzz
2019-09-07 19:45
#195
 | 
United States Contii 
Its Kio > Shox and its not even close
2019-09-07 19:45
haha NA users getting dumber with every day
2019-09-07 19:46
#197
 | 
Indonesia dwkkkk 
+coldzera he should learn french
2019-09-07 19:46
deserved
2019-09-07 19:46
#202
 | 
Turkey headshotk1ng 
good news for Vitality, NBK was bringing the team down. i've always hated this guy, he doesnt want to play with shox and Happy but hes way worse than shox. Also Happy used to be a great igl. nbk twofaced. thank Vitality for bringing this guy down, now all you need for a decent team is -ALEX +kennyS kennyS shox ZywOo apEX RpK would be nice to see.
2019-09-07 19:46
#217
 | 
Brazil gresote 
apex trash
2019-09-07 19:49
-rpk
2019-09-07 19:50
#223
NiKo | 
Morocco royflord 
no keep alex if you bring shox, they need a true igl
2019-09-07 19:51
good move
2019-09-07 19:47
+elige
2019-09-07 19:47
FRENCH SHUFFLE
2019-09-07 19:47
+1
2019-09-07 19:47
Finally, the one with the biggest mouth is out. He's always making up stuff up and spreading bullshit. NBK the drama queen. Feels like shox isn't far off this guy too. "I'm commited to be an IGL and the guys believe in me, I'm building a new system I believe this is how CSGO is meant to be played, bla bla bla - it's my time to be a full time IGL - bla bla bla", as soon as they could get ALEX to IGL he did quit his IGL position again. It's the same bullshit everytime. Good riddance, hope he just steps down his high horse for once. Feels like he takes everything for granted.
2019-09-07 19:47
Wtf is going on ?
2019-09-07 19:48
NBK 'first of all it means don't bench us' LOLOLOL cya
2019-09-07 19:48
#213
 | 
United States Nahtenojoh 
-rpk - nbk +shox +lucky
2019-09-07 19:48
#241
ZywOo | 
France gamarin 
+1 good move
2019-09-07 19:53
RpK was the best in CS Source. He is a sauce legend. Won 43 events of 49.
2019-09-08 02:18
#552
 | 
United States Nahtenojoh 
Yah but csgo is a different story
2019-09-08 16:12
#214
 | 
Bulgaria vectralsoul 
Well, that was that... Expected tho. They need another solid fragger.
2019-09-07 19:48
#216
 | 
CIS KalashDaniel 
hello SHOXX
2019-09-07 19:49
#218
 | 
Denmark Experative 
expected move,after game vs Avangar
2019-09-07 19:49
#219
 | 
CIS Axccv_ebowit 
shoxie
2019-09-07 19:49
What? He was like there 2nd best player in fragging even tho he IGLs... Really weird decision.
2019-09-07 19:50
#283
 | 
Pakistan LoOuU2 
In fragging? Dude Vitality doesn't have a consistent second fragger. All three (le tank has a different role) are very inconsistent. And he isn't even the sole IGL, Alex does it too
2019-09-07 20:06
Ratings in Vitality. NBK- 1.02 ALEX 1.03 RpK 1.02 apEX 1.01 ZywOo 1.29 Vitalitys riflers are problem, because they dont give them enough firepower, not their support and co-o IGL which frags same as they do.
2019-09-07 20:08
#330
 | 
Pakistan LoOuU2 
i am not in favor of him being dropped either but if there really is someone who could be dropped from the team if the org wants to , its nbk imo
2019-09-07 20:31
imo its apEX and/or RpK.
2019-09-07 20:31
#333
 | 
Pakistan LoOuU2 
apex one is debatable tbh but there arent many out there who would like upon them the role that rpk plays so its a no from me when it comes to him
2019-09-07 20:33
So just change apEX for kioShiMa, lets see how it works, i think that would give them more firepower.
2019-09-07 20:33
#340
 | 
Pakistan LoOuU2 
kio needs to be in a French team , be it Vitality or G2 . Thats for sure
2019-09-07 20:34
Vitality for apEX/NBK or G2 for Lucky
2019-09-07 20:37
#349
 | 
Pakistan LoOuU2 
replacement of Lucky would be dope , G2 needs another great rifler
2019-09-07 20:43
sorry idk what does dope mean, can you use other word?
2019-09-07 20:45
#382
 | 
Pakistan LoOuU2 
great/awesome/superb/wonderful , take which word you want man . Dope is basically a slang (a type of language consisting of words and phrases that are regarded as very informal, are more common in speech than writing, and are typically restricted to a particular context or group of people.) mostly used on internet
2019-09-07 21:01
Ahh ok, then i agree :D
2019-09-07 21:02
#390
 | 
Pakistan LoOuU2 
nice mens :))
2019-09-07 21:07
now shox leaving g2 makes sense
2019-09-07 19:51
#225
 | 
Brazil fadefedora 
:( NBK
2019-09-07 19:51
That escalated quickly
2019-09-07 19:51
#227
 | 
France LinkDream 
+kio boys
2019-09-07 19:51
LMAO
2019-09-07 19:52
Good, Nbk low skilled. Now +shox and good team ready
2019-09-07 19:52
#231
 | 
Finland jonttu 
sad news :(
2019-09-07 19:52
shox inc
2019-09-07 19:52
I think vitaliy are overestimating their ability because they were able to climb up to #2 when most teams were going through slumps and roster changes. a top 8 finish at their first major with this lineup is not a bad result. they could def try to work it out for atleast another 3-4 months. expectations were set too high after their miraculous rank climb.
2019-09-07 19:52
+1
2019-09-08 14:08
+shox = Easy major
2019-09-07 19:52
#240
 | 
El Salvador Sp1x 
If shox comes to Vitality not as an igl, this could be an insane team.
2019-09-07 19:53
-rpk -nbk +kio and shox ez
2019-09-07 19:53
#245
 | 
France Bavolk 
Ahahha , BeSt FrEnCh OrG, nice truc fuckdf
2019-09-07 19:53
jajajaja
2019-09-07 19:54
French shuffle is about to end with g2 and vita kicking players while they are performing well :(
2019-09-07 19:54
#251
 | 
Europe xrnavkha 
what
2019-09-07 19:55
#252
 | 
United States @FyreCS 
New Vitality: Kioshima Zywoo Apex /Scream Shox Lucky New G2: DavidP KennyS JeyN Jackzz Amanak
2019-09-07 19:57
This is an abomination.
2019-09-07 20:41
#377
 | 
Nigeria Asbhdhsbs 
Who's Amanak?
2019-09-07 20:58
#580
 | 
United States @FyreCS 
Wtf mens)))
2019-09-10 05:31
VITA -ALEX -NBK plus Shox and kennyS
2019-09-07 19:55
#524
shox | 
France KR1MEZ 
why -alex if there is no igl and dont tell me shox is igl
2019-09-08 12:09
Why though? Are they insane?
2019-09-07 19:55
rpk still on team xd
2019-09-07 19:56
- NbK + MalekCsgo
2019-09-07 19:56
2 igl nbk and who?
2019-09-07 19:56
Alex ofc Anyway, same players comes in and out. Nothing changes in baguette cs
2019-09-07 19:58
How about zywoo?
2019-09-08 10:44
#260
NBK- | 
Czech Republic matymon 
Noooooooooooooo
2019-09-07 19:57
#261
 | 
India otgps 
hope they don't fall for shox scam. Just trade nbk and look to buy out kennyS
2019-09-07 19:58
#262
 | 
Latvia Ke]R[4u 
legitimately good move,
2019-09-07 19:58
They should've benched rpk instead
2019-09-07 19:59
#525
shox | 
France KR1MEZ 
RpK is great sp player
2019-09-08 12:10
#267
 | 
Colombia AlejoBuh 
k1o is coming
2019-09-07 19:59
f for the king
2019-09-07 19:59
#269
 | 
Sweden Lagge15 
I guess this is the reason why French teams never stay high ranked for long. Instead of believing in their project they go for stupid roster moves that halters the development
2019-09-07 20:00
Very deserved
2019-09-07 20:00
asduoasiudhasiudhoaisuodiuashodiuhoasidhua WTF???
2019-09-07 20:01
HAHAHAHAHAH
2019-09-07 20:01
#279
 | 
United States DiabIo 
Nbk getting rejected from a reject team
2019-09-07 20:02
#282
 | 
United States gtmaniacmda 
Natural Born choKer-
2019-09-07 20:04
lol
2019-09-07 20:06
They should kick Rpk too. And invest in 1 new zywoo and 1 decent rifler.
2019-09-07 20:06
Deserved, NBK is useless.
2019-09-07 20:07
#293
 | 
Palestine Baitor69 
respect the best french player ever ?
2019-09-07 20:08
You are fucking retard...
2019-09-07 20:16
should have been -RpK first tbh
2019-09-07 20:08
+1
2019-09-07 20:16
#291
 | 
Palestine Baitor69 
watafeq is happening mens))))
2019-09-07 20:08
toxic frenchs are getting punished finally thank god
2019-09-07 20:09
Finally it's time for him to open a fashion clothing line
2019-09-07 20:09
well hes the french seized, used to be a fantastic support, and now is a decoy
2019-09-07 20:10
just add kio already
2019-09-07 20:10
#307
shox | 
India iejesus 
he openly said he wants to join g2
2019-09-07 20:12
Whaaaaat
2019-09-07 20:11
#302
 | 
Finland satkis 
NBK was pretty weak tbh
2019-09-07 20:12
1 failed tourney and then a roster change?
2019-09-07 20:12
#305
shox | 
India iejesus 
aah french shuffle
2019-09-07 20:12
#306
 | 
Bulgaria zhelyazkoG 
The news about 2 serbian players joining G2 is ridiculous. Probably shox join Vitality. NBK back in G2 + Kioshima. Once he said, that have contact with them on the stream.
2019-09-07 20:12
#334
 | 
Europe AkyoNinjax 
NBK wants to go in an international team
2019-09-07 20:33
#348
 | 
Bulgaria zhelyazkoG 
With who ?
2019-09-07 20:41
wow
2019-09-07 20:13
was NBK the IGL of Vitality?
2019-09-07 20:13
if i heard correctly, alex was igling on T side, and NBK on CT side. Maybe im wrong, but pretty sure im not :)
2019-09-07 20:18
+SHOX?!?!??!!
2019-09-07 20:16
#314
 | 
Poland POLAND_SHIT 
NBENCHEDK
2019-09-07 20:16
Luluulululululululul nbenchedk
2019-09-07 20:18
#318
 | 
Bulgaria zhelyazkoG 
Overall, i don't like shuffles. Just 9 months and changed the line-up. This is not the way to win titles. That's why Astralis, Liquid, Na'vi will be consistent and win.
2019-09-07 20:18
Na vi 0 win
2019-09-07 20:39
#528
shox | 
France KR1MEZ 
but they're more consistency than g2 either vita
2019-09-08 12:13
NBK to BIG
2019-09-07 20:20
#321
 | 
United States snafusr 
Yo if they +shox I'll cum
2019-09-07 20:21
#323
 | 
Finland Tusku 
hate to see it ):
2019-09-07 20:22
#325
 | 
Turkey Thunderball 
LUL
2019-09-07 20:23
#328
 | 
United Kingdom Cujoishere 
If its +Kio Or +Shox, imma spum.
2019-09-07 20:27
FINALLY thats what I called when they started with Vitality instant kick this rotten bitch NBK, i still believe Shox and Scream chemistry back in G2 2016 and add KennyS/Zywoo, kio/RpK and Happy
2019-09-07 20:27
#486
 | 
Indonesia tsokai 
Bruh 2016 is like 3 years ago. What they do 3 years ago is irrelevant for now + csgo is evolving in every aspect of the game
2019-09-08 07:19
#332
 | 
Armenia GaRY56 
Bad move
2019-09-07 20:32
#339
 | 
Finland aleksi21324 
Again? NB(enched)K?? Stupid move
2019-09-07 20:34
NBK has 2 majors… I think people Forget that it ain't all about kills even tho he wasn't the worst at kills. Shox for me is someone who become to arrogant with the years. I don't understand the need to change already just because u lost a major just work harder… looks like a crybaby move and I see a dark future for them tbh P.S: and they lost to the team that's on the finals. vitality manager is a garbage
2019-09-07 20:42
#344
 | 
Romania kinoN 
started a year ago Vitality and now top 2. what is the problem?
2019-09-07 20:38
Ye you are right, typical french brain
2019-09-07 20:40
#355
 | 
France Il_padrino 
Yes, stupid idea...
2019-09-07 20:46
#352
flusha | 
Europe An0n0n 
Now +shox and -RPK +any decent French speaking pro and they might actually become a genuine tier 1 team.
2019-09-07 20:45
#353
 | 
Portugal dascouves 
good job, now get rid of apeX and i can finally start cheering for you guys. Add Shox and Kio.
2019-09-07 20:45
#354
 | 
Russia NOD777 
> France > Reshuffle Pick both
2019-09-07 20:45
best move
2019-09-07 20:47
#360
Zeus | 
Finland 0lter 
lol wtffff
2019-09-07 20:48
FINALLY! VIVE LA FRANCE!
2019-09-07 20:50
#362
 | 
Philippines metshidreio 
LOOOL WHAT. ALEX SHOULD BE REMOVED NOT NBK.WTF
2019-09-07 20:51
Great move , nbk is trash player since years ..kio way better at doing thé same
2019-09-07 20:52
about time, NBK sucks shit
2019-09-07 20:52
Wtf
2019-09-07 20:53
Good for them but still overrated trash team
2019-09-07 20:53
#367
 | 
United States highlandyirr 
ok wtf????
2019-09-07 20:53
#368
 | 
Poland giepeishere 
finally
2019-09-07 20:54
No way I made a thread about this but never believed this would happen 😢
2019-09-07 20:54
soooo dumb omg
2019-09-07 20:54
#372
jks | 
Liberia nawledge 
okay so overrated shox for NBK? lol.
2019-09-07 20:55
oh boy, as soon as they hear G2 benched Shox they did this xD
2019-09-07 20:56
so ridiculous... nbk builds a team from scratch, team went from world 30+ to top 10, this time even top 3, one bad major, team gets destroyed. i feel so bad for nbk :/
2019-09-07 20:56
#485
 | 
Indonesia tsokai 
I mean its not even a bad major for them, they get to the playoff + the whole team is kinda underperforming including Zywoo
2019-09-08 07:16
#376
 | 
Nigeria Asbhdhsbs 
+ScreaM
2019-09-07 20:57
#380
 | 
North America karalumano 
+1
2019-09-07 21:00
#407
 | 
Vietnam rollofocker 
Apex and screaM in one team? 5 year old could outsmart them both ^_^
2019-09-07 21:43
#418
 | 
Nigeria Asbhdhsbs 
Good thing they're not gonna be the brain of the team.
2019-09-07 22:26
#419
 | 
Vietnam rollofocker 
every member need to be able to think.. apex can just freak out and do really dumb shit... but apex can also do insane things so that kind of cancels that out. but you can only have one loose cannon in your team. otherwise every thing becomes random very quick.
2019-09-07 22:27
#379
ZywOo | 
Austria arngnr 
I love NBK, but he was the weak link for Vitality these past couple of events. RPK kinda had a little comeback so its fair to remove NBK, especially because of this "2-ingame-leaders-thing". (Which I am no fan of AT ALL)
2019-09-07 21:00
#429
 | 
North America Straf3R 
I believed in it, but not with Alex and Nathan. Both are alpha males and their personalities just don't mix
2019-09-07 22:49
-NBKry +shox Ez top5 team
2019-09-07 21:01
pretty funny tbh. karma for throwing their esea lan game v furia much?
2019-09-07 21:03
#484
 | 
Indonesia tsokai 
How is people still butthurt about that match even though they already have explained it that they were forced to compete in it when there's a bigger tournament coming up right after it?
2019-09-08 07:14
AXAXAXAXA
2019-09-07 21:03
wait what? What dafuq is going on?????? has the whole scene gone mad?
2019-09-07 21:05
#391
 | 
Poland zJe 
Good decision.
2019-09-07 21:07
1 bad tournament and they change roster, what a shitty move
2019-09-07 21:09
like serious I don't get this no thought change after a Major (they still made it to the playoffs) This dumb decision to change a working squad after still a solid result is just stupid
2019-09-07 21:12
+KennyS ez 5 Awps everyone 2ez mens)))
2019-09-07 21:10
shox incoming
2019-09-07 21:15
#397
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Ukraine sm1leyx 
Rpk better Nbk?
2019-09-07 21:17
#428
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North America Straf3R 
No, but RpK is one of their entries. NBK is a lurker/support in the team.
2019-09-07 22:47
#483
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Indonesia tsokai 
Alex is the lurker, nbk is more of a support
2019-09-08 07:12
#541
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North America Straf3R 
It depends on the map and which site is being hit. But NBK does a fair bit of lurking.
2019-09-08 13:23
NICEE
2019-09-07 21:19
ALEX RpK apEX ZywOo shox Ex6TenZ NBK KioShiMa kennyS ScreaM davidp AmaNEk devoduvek JaCkz Lucky
2019-09-07 21:21
#482
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Indonesia tsokai 
No awper for the last lineup? -ex6 +davidp/amanek -lucky -davidp/amanek +maka +bodyy Maybe?
2019-09-08 07:11
hi shox
2019-09-07 21:24
Finally à french org that IS serious and not wasting years of salary with not suited player .. french scene would have been à lot better with this professionnional approach since years
2019-09-07 21:27
#405
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African Union mikecool 
scream incoming, lol
2019-09-07 21:39
#406
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Vietnam rollofocker 
good they got rid of the past. Vitality being really smart about this imo. I don't know if shox is a very good option here; he is dominant by nature he will undercut alex and the teamspirit will struggle. better get somebody fresh, french scene has enough potential.
2019-09-07 21:41
#425
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North America Straf3R 
Hate to admit it, but he might be the new kio...
2019-09-07 22:45
OMEGALUL
2019-09-07 21:46
kick NBK, but save ALEX & apEX BB top 10 for Vitality
2019-09-07 22:05
#413
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Philippines wataetos 
French Shuffle 2: Electric Boogaloo
2019-09-07 22:11
#421
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Germany HLTV_GERMANY 
WTF
2019-09-07 22:36
#423
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Europe Cr3eP_70 
How the hell do they bench NBK and leave apeX on that team???? Well, at least NBK can get some rest from that annoying "squilling" always by his side...
2019-09-07 22:40
omegaLUL Vitality owner 2iq
2019-09-07 22:43
WTF, Dumbest thing ever! WHy?!?!?!?! WTF ARE THESE DUMB FRENCH OWNERS DOING!
2019-09-07 22:45
#427
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North America Straf3R 
Tbh I knew this would happen as soon as Alex was brought on. Too many conflicting personalities in the French scene. Good for short term success, but long term..
2019-09-07 22:46
Hey everyone, this guy knew it would happen right from the start
2019-09-08 09:24
WHAT
2019-09-07 23:08
they punished him cuz of major
2019-09-07 23:16
#433
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Europe Pluterro 
Good decision !!
2019-09-07 23:39
#434
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Europe aNCIOn 
shox will destroy this team and french scene back to being garbage lul
2019-09-07 23:58
#436
KRIMZ | 
Slovakia EvErisT 
rip vitality
2019-09-08 00:14
G2 +ZywOo +kioshima
2019-09-08 00:18
? French cs kappa ?
2019-09-08 00:23
#439
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Japan ehegao 
RIP NBK
2019-09-08 00:27
#442
Zeus | 
Turkey kadirw0w 
Ah shit, here we go again...
2019-09-08 00:57
EXPECTED
2019-09-08 01:13
Everyday I'm shuffling... I swear that song was written for the French CS scene.
2019-09-08 01:40
NBKry xaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxa
2019-09-08 01:47
Shox please don’t leave G2
2019-09-08 02:28
#451
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Turkey ColdZer00 
-RpK -NBK +shox +Lucky
2019-09-08 02:49
lol Lucky ultra bot -RpK +roden
2019-09-08 05:14
#481
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Indonesia tsokai 
Low tier bait bruh.
2019-09-08 07:07
#462
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South Africa nimmaJ 
No thanks we dont want lucky. Well take shox tho
2019-09-08 06:21
nbk still perform better than olof
2019-09-08 03:01
shox goes to vitalitt NBK goes to an international team GOD KIO joins G2
2019-09-08 03:03
#530
shox | 
France KR1MEZ 
what about lucky?
2019-09-08 12:17
both NBK and RPK are trash now
2019-09-08 03:46
Hopefully the french scene stops rotating and recycling the same players over and over again
2019-09-08 04:09
VITALITY IS GOOD
2019-09-08 05:06
#459
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Switzerland TyRRRR 
Hmmmmmmmm. -NBK -RpK +shox +kioShiMa > ALEX is the IGL & Lurker, apEX co-leader & entry, ZywOo the AWPer, kioShiMa the support and shox stay a fucking player, focus on his aim and crosshair and becomes a robot with gamesense. Gaddem this would make for the best french team ever created.
2019-09-08 05:27
#461
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South Africa nimmaJ 
Rpk > kio. Better roleplayer, definitely a more natural support and is way more used to the system and how to help his teammates
2019-09-08 06:20
#464
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Switzerland TyRRRR 
No. French guy following every player for 7 years now, RpK is absolutly not a support in Vitality that's the probleme, he is more like a pawn or a soldier. It's good for certain situations but bad in others especially at high level where he is clearly not up to par with other player he faces. kioShiMa spent most of his career being a good dedicated support player, he is younger, better and overall is just a better and more polyvalant player atm. Also i know a lot of ppl in the fr com agree with theses observersations, RpK is the next SmithZz, not as tragic but he has to go now for the better of the scene.
2019-09-08 06:30
#468
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South Africa nimmaJ 
Hes by far the most supportive element. That's literally the exact same thing taco does and he is unanimously called a support. Supports in today's meta play passive roles on T side until they need to be baited by the star. See dust 2. Rpk either watches B tunns or rushes long. Hes in the positions that have the least chance of getting kills or the most likely to die first. Also kio was never a support he was a tradefragger most of his career, anytime he was on a team with NBK, NBK was the support.
2019-09-08 06:41
#471
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Switzerland TyRRRR 
Nah bro, being in shit positions doesn't make you a support. In french we call the CT role of RpK " fixe B ", essentialy the anchor in english, this is approximatly the only responsability he has to fullfill along with killing atleast 1 guy. He's soon to be 30, doesn't have any real impact, skill or esponsability to distinguish himself from any other player. Yes, he is reliable, constent & experience. But kioShiMa is better in every single thing i mentionned on top of being younger.
2019-09-08 06:43
#472
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South Africa nimmaJ 
Yes that's exactly what it does. Playing positions which have the least chance of fragging and the highest chance of dying early or to a rush is exactly what supports to in today's meta. If not give me an example of a support that doesnt fit the definition I just gave. Playing the boring spots and being baited and expected to get a low amount of kills seems extremely supportive to me. Kio hasnt played pro in over a year and the only thing he has over rpk is better aim. Rpk is much more suited for the role however kio in NBKs spot would be pretty much the same since they actually have similar roles now. However it wouldnt make Vitality any better.
2019-09-08 06:48
#475
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Switzerland TyRRRR 
No ? Support is not a positions but a way of playing, anchor spots are not particularly support heavy, it's a task just like enntry fragging who is a supportive way for the trade fragger. Just watch RpK play bro, he's more like a standard rifler, does his part, does what the team need or want, but he's miles away from Xyp9x rolewise. kio hasn't played in 6 month, not a year and plays like he did as a pro for the past 10 years. NBK- was entry fragging lately, being the agressive extremity and ALEX being teh apssive one ( lurker ).
2019-09-08 06:52
#478
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South Africa nimmaJ 
Yes NBK transitioned to entry as Apex wanted to clutch more rounds by playing safer. Literally the only available spot on the team is the support if you just check off roles. Exactly it's a way of playing. Like not having any freedom and doing exactly what the team asks of you, nothing more nothing less. You're comparing rpk to the greatest support player in CSGO history. Literally every support player besides maybe prime krimz (when he was still a support) is miles away from xyp9x, kio is and would be too. And if you disagree with that you're nothing more than a kioshima fangirl.
2019-09-08 07:02
#470
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South Africa nimmaJ 
Not to mention how can you even know what kind of player Kio is when he hasnt been on a pro team in what, over a year now? Mainly due to attitude and ego issues - something you'll never see from rpk and most true supports because they're selfless and actually understand how to sacrifice for the teams success.
2019-09-08 06:43
#473
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Switzerland TyRRRR 
RpK is not a support. T side = Does what NBK- or ALEX asks. CT = Stay on the bombsite, counter execute and kill the most person possible. He has supportive assets in his way of playing but that's about it. He doesn't clutch, doesn't support with nades a lot ( actually a joke in french forums ), and has the least impact from all the Vitality guys. For the couple of weeks passed the most able to being called a support in Vitality was apEX my dude, to my regret. Oh also i've witnessed shox & rpk beckering and wayyyyy many other shit you couldn't believe m8, our scene is fucked and rpk is goodfor french standards but stays french.
2019-09-08 06:47
#474
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South Africa nimmaJ 
Doing exactly what your IGL asks and having no freedom isnt supportive? NBK and Alex do most of the nade work along with apex depending on the map. For some reason you think throwing nades and baiting your teammates is more supportive then being baited? Rpk and Alex are and always have been the supportive elements on the team.
2019-09-08 06:50
#477
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Switzerland TyRRRR 
M8 im gonna stop u right there, i can take on minutes of my time trying to explain you how it is. However if you don't trust me, cool then idgaf because im not gonna waste my time trying to convince ur ass that doesn't know shit about his favorite team. Cheers mens))
2019-09-08 06:55
#479
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South Africa nimmaJ 
"I'm gonna stop you" No you're not. You're conceding because youve been out-argued and have no counter points but are trying to distract from that fact and play it off as if you still have more to say, which if you did you would. All you can do is resort to ad hominem and use fallacies. Exactly what someone in a losing argument would do, well someone as weak at arguing as you anyway. You contradicted yourself like 4 times in 3 posts. Thanks for conceding :) /closed
2019-09-08 06:59
#489
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Switzerland TyRRRR 
didn't read ty man
2019-09-08 07:33
#490
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South Africa nimmaJ 
Of course you did. Thanks for conceding :)
2019-09-08 08:10
#465
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Brazil SecondKS 
0/8
2019-09-08 06:31
#469
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South Africa nimmaJ 
-8/8
2019-09-08 06:39
#463
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Brazil SecondKS 
+1000
2019-09-08 06:30
they are benching NBK but keeping ALEX and apex? lol
2019-09-08 06:33
Tbh the whole team is trash except zywoo and maybe Rpk
2019-09-08 12:11
#556
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South Africa nimmaJ 
Imo Apex has lost them more maps individually than anyone but they're aiming to fix the leadership issue first
2019-09-08 18:14
kio showed no signs of change, still joining and leaving teams left right and center. Vitality need a stable guy that doesn't lose motivation that easily. And sadly there's no such guy available among baguettes. And it surely won't be shox, because that guy always did and always will try to take over, to get full power and call strats, to tell everybody else what he wants them to do, shox has been being like that from his early days, Ex6TenZ was right kicking him so many times, shox will never be what his teams expect him to - yes he will carry sometimes, but he won't obey anyone, he still, after all those years of failing, thinks he's a good IGL. So shox is not welcomed anywhere. FaZe: -Neo -olofm +Aleksib +cold/NBK
2019-09-08 06:35
#480
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South Africa nimmaJ 
It would be jackz but G2 arent gonna let him go.
2019-09-08 07:06
#476
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Kazakhstan k4harman 
wtf is going on?
2019-09-08 06:52
#487
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Indonesia tsokai 
Honestly fuck neo
2019-09-08 07:23
Toxic kid deserved hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. Everytime shuffle he was the biggest problem but no one noticed Instead of Happy.
2019-09-08 07:24
Expected from french
2019-09-08 08:14
#492
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Greece spyrosmk 
Problem is that every team already has an IGL, or other people without a team are IGLs
2019-09-08 08:14
#495
s1 | 
Armenia gr1nch 
+devoduvek
2019-09-08 08:46
Vitality Shox Zywoo Rpk Alex Apex G2 NBK Amanek Bodyy KennyS K1o Other Jackz Lucky Maka Happy Majer
2019-09-08 08:52
#508
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Mongolia dennek 
jackz>bodyy,kio,nbk,rpk,alex
2019-09-08 09:40
g2 +NBK??????? yes??
2019-09-08 08:52
#499
ZywOo | 
Bulgaria Arsoyy 
Good job benching NBK instead of Le Bot
2019-09-08 09:12
According to neL, other players have reported that it's been months that this guy was creating problems & tensions inside the team lul. This guy will never change.
2019-09-08 09:18
Yes cause he knew beeing igl is the only way for him to not get kicked
2019-09-08 16:47
#507
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Mongolia dennek 
shox incoming
2019-09-08 09:39
So unlike navi (team simple in past for year and a half) they actually make some change quite early when its evident it should be done and see how it goes? I like it a lot, management got some balls and will be interesting to see how it goes with new fifth.
2019-09-08 10:24
They were good with nbk though. Now they may play even worse. Remember G2 when they kicked NBK and Apex
2019-09-08 12:38
I was not sying they will be better, i was saying that they got balls to try it out (unlike navi who had same roster like FOREVER).
2019-09-08 12:51
NBK ok.. and RPK. Try new rookies.
2019-09-08 10:39
#515
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Austria gex0r 
Stupid move
2019-09-08 10:48
#518
France yvo 
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO !
2019-09-08 11:24
that was fast lol
2019-09-08 11:28
#527
ZywOo | 
France gamarin 
+Lucky would be nice (instead of +Kio which would be retarded)
2019-09-08 12:11
+Scream please
2019-09-08 12:29
#549
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North America Straf3R 
Why? Scream is entry.
2019-09-08 15:25
+ScreaM
2019-09-08 12:39
#535
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Lithuania Mr|Julius 
Finally nbk gets benched no one needs that teo faced toledo
2019-09-08 12:42
#539
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France s2ptik 
please no shox for replace NBK... shox is a good player but he is a father, and he completely leaves the game for familly ...
2019-09-08 12:58
#543
Xyp9x | 
Czech Republic Puget1 
*Terms and conditions apply
2019-09-08 13:40
sad
2019-09-08 13:57
WHY? Only For Shox?
2019-09-08 13:59
nobody wants NBcry
2019-09-08 15:21
Losing Nbk gonna cost them
2019-09-08 15:23
+ shox - kioshima
2019-09-08 15:33
To be honest i dont think they should add kioshima cos he hasnt been playing well. NBK should try and get an offer at an international team such as mousesports (even though mousesports shouldnt change their roster cos they arent doing bad just need more practice). But my point is that he is a good player just being blocked by being in the wrong team. He also has good english so international team ez pz major win. Lol Astralis NBK.
2019-09-08 15:56
#553
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North America HaHaFunny 
NBK is gr8. i'd love to see him in NA instead of that washed up kio. maybe -ethan or -stan +NBK (but its too early for NRG to drop players)
2019-09-08 16:15
thanks for ruining my pickem . i choose vitality for the win. but they got cut early
2019-09-08 16:37
Woooow zywoo if they plan to bring in kioshima defiantly leave and join G2. Because there will be too many of the same roles. Kio is a great player but if you want to beat the top and win titles you'll need more stars. And higher fragging team in general. G2 has a solid team.
2019-09-08 21:43
Woooow zywoo if they plan to bring in kioshima defiantly leave and join G2. Because there will be too many of the same roles. Kio is a great player but if you want to beat the top and win and add some titles you'll need more stars. A higher fragging team in general. G2 has a solid team.
2019-09-08 21:44
#562
NBK- | 
China Gnikiv 
Q: I wanted to talk about the dual-IGL system that you have going. In case you maybe have different ideas, perhaps on roles, styles, or vetos, how does the system work in those instances? NBK: We actually had a bit of trouble regarding leadership, especially on a human level, especially before ECS, funnily enough. We decided to stop the discussion when the tournament started and continue it when the tournament was done, so we probably weren't expecting to win with all of that, but we managed to put everything aside, play, have fun, and win a tournament [laughs] - can't complain! But yeah, we had some troubles, so we are trying to allow our coach to have a bigger voice in the whole group and take ideas from everybody. But the main ideas come from our coach and me, and then ALEX has his input as well on if he doesn't feel comfortable on some map or stuff like that. It is just a balance, but generally, our ideas are not really far off. When he leads his T half, I give him 100% freedom, when I'm doing my CT half I have 100% freedom, and then our coach relays us information if he has something to give us. In general, it feels pretty well when it comes down to Counter-Strike. hltv.org/news/27255/nbk-we-had-a-bit-of-..
2019-09-09 00:55
+shox
2019-09-09 02:52
#565
nexa | 
Europe Luboss 
apEX two faced toledo Alex two faced toledo?
2019-09-09 02:59
Take kennyS or Shox both solid upgrades for NBK.
2019-09-09 05:28
NBK G2 PLASE
2019-09-09 09:19
#573
TenZ | 
Denmark Oxfu 
kio incomming
2019-09-09 11:04
#575
Keiti | 
Canada Lizzie 
haha deserved
2019-09-09 15:39
#576
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Spain mokerz 
thanks, now you are not gonna be bitten by NBK a.k.a nbkSnake
2019-09-09 16:23
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