suNny: "It is the first time in my career that I've been the hated person, I take it as fuel and my machine is going to start soon"

We talked to Miikka "suNny" Kemppi and Aleksi "allu" Jalli in Berlin, following ENCE's elimination from the Major in 5-8th place, with the two Finns shedding more light on the roster change as well as suNny's exit from mousesports.

A loss to Renegades stopped ENCE's run at the StarLadder Major Berlin and ended the Aleksi "Aleksib" Virolainen chapter of the team. But ENCE wasted no time and straight away started practicing with suNny, who joined the team in Berlin for the playoffs.

The 16th best player of 2018 returns to action with ENCE after seven months on the bench of mouz

During ENCE's mid-day practice break, we managed to conduct an interview with suNny and allu, getting insight into both sides of the recent roster change.

suNny also talked about his benching in mousesports, claiming it happened because the players and the organization couldn't agree on the roster moving forward. After a very busy year in the German organization, benching himself and avoiding additional burnout was an easy decision, the 25-year-old said.

On the other side, allu revealed that changing the roster came as a result of the feeling of stagnation in the team. The AWPer also discussed misconceptions about the in-game leadership and stressed that despite the removal of Aleksib, there is no bad blood between the two of them.

suNny, why and how did you end up on the bench of mousesports?

suNny: Because I felt that with the team we had last year we achieved almost everything we could. Obviously, we wanted to be better than what we had in mousesports, we wanted to change some people. We kind of agreed with that, but then, on the other hand, we didn't, they [mousesports organization] wanted a different team than we did, including ropz. As a player, I always wanted to move forward and I wanted to be the best, not a top 5 or a top 8 team. I think that was the biggest reason I didn't continue with them because we couldn't get a better team than we had at that moment. And it was pretty clear to mousesports that we wanted to be better than we were. We had, I think, a five months discussion about how the team should look and we didn't agree. I wanted things different to them.

suNny: The whole time in mousesports was really exhausting to me, we played too many events and we didn't prepare and practice enough so it got to a point that we had fights in the team, inside the game. mousesports just wanted to go a different way than I did so I told them I'm not going to do another year like this, start from nothing and try to bring ourselves back to where we already were. So it was kind of an easy decision.

My next question was supposed to be "was it a difficult decision", but you saying it was easy - what made it so easy? Because benching yourself, in the end spending half of a year on the bench, can be pretty hard, and it is maybe hard to come back from that.

suNny: I just didn't think it was worth it to burn myself out even more and it got to the point that benching felt natural and easy. Obviously, I thought about the fact my buyout would be high but I was ready to do it and rebuild myself, as I said in my HLTV top 20 interview, I didn't feel so good during our last months in mousesports.

A packed tournament schedule in mousesports resulted in bad results and frustrations

What did your life look like when you were on the bench, what did you do for the last couple of months?

suNny: I think the first month I didn't play much, but then I started to play again and I had many plans going on with other players and team, but we mostly spoke with allu, and obviously some other ENCE players as well, about what can be done and when. The only thing I really wanted was to play in a team where I feel good and that I know can be the number one team in the world at some point, and to have good atmosphere, in and outside of the game.

suNny: So what I did: first I had some time off and then I started to play, but also saw my friends, went some places around the world and had some fun.

When someone is playing in a team you have maybe 6-7 hours of practice and then you play a bit of deathmatch and other things. When you are not in a team, how much can you actually play and how can you stay motivated to play, I don't know, 10 FPLs a day?

suNny: It is different for every person, I felt that I had enough team practice and all that kind of stuff during my career so I mostly played deathmatch to keep my aim on point and some FPL games to catch up with the meta and how people play. But it obviously depends, for example, s1mple likes to play a lot of FPL, while me if I play 12 hours of FPL in a day, I can't really focus on that, it is really individual how people play. But I guess it is mostly that you need to know yourself and what is good for you.

A lot of people are going to be expecting you to not be as good as you were before due to the long break. Going into ENCE, what do you think your form is going to be like?

suNny: I think I need some time, obviously, to catch up with other teams and stuff, because when you play in a top team you kind of know everything that is going on, every strat, every timing, every flash, stuff like this. That is the biggest thing that makes you good. But I think it is not going to be a problem for me to be even better than before because I think ENCE is a much better team than we were with mousesports, even at our highest peak. And the communication will be so much better, decision making, all these kinds of things that make me good, it is going to make things a lot easier. So I think that after two or three months I'm going to be much, much better than earlier.

To segue into joining ENCE, there are a lot of talks now about roster shuffles happening after the Major, most of the players are waiting for that to happen. Theorycrafting, people were saying "Maybe suNny can join with coldzera, NiKo...", imagining which superteams could happen. Why did you decide to join ENCE before the Major instead of waiting for what opportunities could arise after it?

suNny: I'm going to be really honest, I think ENCE is the best team for me in the long run and I feel like the atmosphere and how things are done in ENCE as an organization, and inside the team, how they practice, how they manage all the travel - it was clearly the best option. That is how it is. I saw that ENCE is the only team where I would be happy in the coming years.

Moving to allu, why did you decide to make a change? What were the results or things that happened in the team that you decided: "Ok, it is time to change a player"?

allu: It is a difficult question and it would require a longer answer than I want to give. (laughs) But in short, inside the team, we kind of felt at one point that we just didn't improve anymore. If you look at the last 18 months, we were always going steadily up, up and up. We took milestones where we could, we took big scalps against better teams than us and slowly climbed up. At the Katowice Major we kind of showed how good we can be, we obviously weren't mentally ready to play Astralis in that final, and after that we kind of kept the same level during the next events. After China, StarSeries i-League S7 when we lost to Na`Vi in the quarter-finals, which actually was our game and we just threw it away, things in the team kind of started to break apart a little bit. Tensions between people, frustrations as well.

allu: I understand that people think about our team that we are doing good, that we are doing ok, we are a top 4-5 team in the world, why would we change. But I think we just reached a point where we were kind of stuck. And we don't want to be stuck, we want to be the best and that is the only reason we did this change.

allu stressed that he parts ways with Aleksib on good terms

Replacing Aleksib with suNny, is that then a change because of the roles or was it more of a personality change that you think is needed, the human part?

allu: I think it is both, but when we look at our roster, obviously "CS experts" might disagree, but I think suNny fits Aleksib's role the best, that is the most logical thing role wise, talking about what roles Aleksib has and what suNny can do. And also, the human part is a factor but almost no factor at all. We are professionals and we want to win, no matter how we feel about each other, it doesn't change anything as long as we have the team to keep going forward all the time and we reach our goals, we are happy and we will make it work.

allu: The change itself, it can be rough as we have a rough schedule right now. Two days practice and we go to Moscow, our luck I guess is that many other teams changed players as well but we will see how it goes. At least the practice has been good and the atmosphere in the team is really good right now.

allu: About taking the in-game leading role, it is also a change for me, but it is also not as big of a change as people from the outside believe as I have been a caller in teams before as well, mid-round calling and being the second caller has pretty much always been my role. In this team maybe even more than before. Twista's help is also really underrated in the scene. But Aleksib obviously had a strong voice in our team so it is going to take some time, I guess, but I think that with this team we are going to be even better than what we were before.

With allu becoming the main caller, I guess suNny, you are taking on the secondary caller role. How comfortable are you with that and how much experience do you have with it from past teams?

suNny: I've always been doing the same as allu, starting from ENCE in 2016 when allu left for FaZe and Aleksib joined us, it was the same as what allu was doing now with Aleksib, I was doing that kind of stuff. In PENTA, my first international team, I was doing like 75% of all the calling, strats, stuff like this. In mousesports I was always helping chrisJ a lot and at some point last year we changed that I was calling for some time, I think that for four months it was only me calling and chrisJ helping me mid-round. But yeah, I have a lot of experience from that, those are certain things that people don't know from the outside because it is never one person doing all of the stuff in teams, but the role of an in-game leader is much more powerful outside than inside the team.

Why don't teams go a bit more public about it? Both in the mousesports and the ENCE case, from the outside, people thought it was very strict, very one-person-leading-everything. Why isn't it discussed more openly, mentioned more?

suNny: To be honest, I think that players don't care that much. Inside the team you always just play for the win, you only focus on winning and doing all that kind of stuff, so there is no merit to being an in-game leader or a well-performing in-game leader, or whatever. I think that people just don't care that much. It is just the speculations that people make, the rumors, which make some people think that some players are much better than they are.

With you replacing Aleksib who was kind of a fan favorite, especially for the Finnish fans, you've gotten a bit of hate directed towards you at the moment. How has that been for you?

suNny: (laughs) It has been insane. 12-to-14-year-old people from Finland, they don't even know I was playing or mousesports or that I won some titles, they call me "bum" and are basically asking "why the f*ck are ENCE bringing in some old ****** to the team that has done nothing but sitting on the bench".

allu: They have been listening to Thorin too much. (laughs)

suNny: It is kind of funny, but I also kind of like it because it is the first time in my career that I've been the hated person, I take it as fuel and my machine is going to start soon.

You touched on the future a bit, leading up to BLAST Pro Series Moscow the schedule is pretty tight, but what can you expect to do there?

suNny: It is always really random when you start. When you look at how we started with mousesports, we bombed out from DreamHack Masters Malmö 0-2 and we got a maximum of nine rounds there but then we suddenly won Mykonos over Liquid in a BO5, so anything can happen I guess. I don't know, we can win or we can bomb out, that is how it is.

ENCE is better than mousesports in their prime, suNny says

Looking at the long-term, what needs to go right for you to achieve what you want to achieve with this team, and on the other hand, what do you think could be the pitfalls, what could make this team not work?

suNny: I think the thing we need to function is to get some practice, the only thing that can be a bit of a slowdown for us is that if we fail really hard in our first three events, where we now have two day of practice [for Moscow], and then we have one week for New York. If we fail pretty hard it can hurt some people's confidence, but I think that there is basically nothing that can stop us if we just get good practice.

allu: I agree with suNny. An important part also might be that suNny is an upgrade to Aleksib firepower-wise, and that might make some people that used to do good stats-wise have fewer frags. That can also affect people. We mostly don't think about that, we only want to win, but it can hurt people's confidence, so I hope that doesn't happen. And we also need to find the balance between me, Twista, and suNny as the calling trio, from what I know I doubt it will be a problem but it is also something we need to sort out. Other than that we just have to play and then we will see what happens.

Is there anything that we didn't touch on, or something you want to address in terms of criticism from the outside?

allu: There has been a lot of talk about me and Aleksib not getting along, but this is not true. There are no fistfights or anything, we depart on good terms and I wish him the best of luck, I'm sure he will find a good team for himself.

suNny: I also want to mention something, mostly for the Finnish fans who don't remember anything and that is that I played in a team with Aleksib as well, there is no bad blood between me and him, we actually won a tournament together back in 2016. So when I comment on his social media it is not because I want to hurt him or anything like that. I wish him the best, and as allu said, he will find a good home for himself. And also, big thanks to everyone that sent me messages and support during my break.

Finland Aleksi 'allu' Jalli
Aleksi 'allu' Jalli
Age:
27
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.10
Maps played:
1371
KPR:
0.75
DPR:
0.64
APR:
0.11
Finland Miikka 'suNny' Kemppi
Miikka 'suNny' Kemppi
Age:
25
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.08
Maps played:
1021
KPR:
0.76
DPR:
0.69
APR:
0.15
Finland Aleksi 'Aleksib' Virolainen
Aleksi 'Aleksib' Virolainen
Age:
22
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
1.01
Maps played:
588
KPR:
0.68
DPR:
0.65
APR:
0.18
#2
fnx | 
United Kingdom Penguin5 
AYh yeet
2019-09-11 15:00
it's not his fault that he's hated on, it was just poor decision making by ence to be fair I like suNny but I'm still not a big fan of their move
2019-09-12 20:24
+1
2019-09-16 06:23
#272
 | 
Russia alebedkov 
+1
2019-09-17 22:57
+1
2019-09-18 04:19
#276
 | 
Netherlands poeya 
+1 Imagine kick aleksib and not aerial
2019-09-18 18:12
#3
 | 
Poland JPKson 
Nice
2019-09-11 15:00
#18
 | 
Morocco Op1xoN 
Haters are hating keep it up suNny!
2019-09-11 15:04
Gloomy incoming
2019-09-11 15:09
Zehnny
2019-09-11 15:39
MehNy
2019-09-11 15:49
They have been listening to Thorin too much. (laughs in finnish)
2019-09-11 15:09
(laughs in somalian)
2019-09-11 17:12
#149
juho | 
Finland Einst3in 
Laughs in kela
2019-09-11 18:03
#153
 | 
Finland zntei 
laughs in maahanmuuttaja
2019-09-11 18:21
#166
 | 
Finland enzoi 
Laughs in vasemmistoliitto
2019-09-11 20:30
#190
 | 
Finland DuploMen 
Laughs.
2019-09-12 01:02
Can you finnish it plz?
2019-09-17 17:10
#38
floppy | 
United States Frotha 
More like Cloudy
2019-09-11 15:10
Rip
2019-09-11 15:01
Pog
2019-09-11 15:01
GL, amazing player
2019-09-11 15:01
#7
 | 
United Kingdom _xC4ctus 
ENCE with sunny > ence with aleksib pogggggGg
2019-09-11 15:02
I will come back to this at the end of the year
2019-09-11 15:18
#92
 | 
Finland Sanbbis 
+1 This is true
2019-09-11 15:49
#124
 | 
North America xAriana 
nope
2019-09-11 16:44
#219
 | 
Canada Deppan1 
+1
2019-09-12 16:06
Bring Aleksib back and make ence great again
2019-09-11 15:01
#47
 | 
Switzerland Jeded 
Ence was never going to get better than kato 2019, a change was needed and they chose alexsib and now we wait and see.
2019-09-11 15:14
+1 Good comment
2019-09-11 16:01
but why aleksib? he was fraggin more the aerial while calling... imagine if he can get a bit of a stress relief with sunny calling as well, aleksib could even be the star player in ence.... the move was personal, you can see that miles away really
2019-09-12 02:14
+1
2019-09-14 10:06
I kind of disagree. I think the reason Astralis is the best team of all time is because the core of that team has been together forever and because they're very careful about roster moves, with the last deliberate one being in the fall of 2016. I think ENCE should've continued to build on it but who knows, maybe they'll make this work.
2019-09-13 08:47
#244
 | 
Switzerland Jeded 
I'm not sure what it was like in the teams, but I'm sure if the majority of the team is frustrated with a player or something it's not easy to work through it no matter how professional you are.
2019-09-13 09:35
#MEGA
2019-09-12 01:35
#9
 | 
Poland Mynameiskasto 
Gl in ence
2019-09-11 15:02
#10
 | 
Denmark Jonasnhj 
Hated? By who
2019-09-11 15:02
Retards like you
2019-09-11 15:03
#29
COCAINE | 
Mongolia bozgor 
+1, people are hating on ence for kicking their IGL, not because they upgrade a plyer with sunny
2019-09-11 15:08
trueeeeee
2019-09-11 15:42
#91
Finland Fpot 
Maybe on hltv but sunny has had alot of hate on fb and twitter
2019-09-11 15:48
finnish kids.
2019-09-11 15:16
#82
cR4zY | 
Myanmar xdcc 
suNny: (laughs) It has been insane. 12-to-14-year-old people from Finland, they don't even know I was playing or mousesports or that I won some titles, they call me "bum" and are basically asking "why the f*ck are ENCE bringing in some old ****** to the team that has done nothing but sitting on the bench".
2019-09-11 15:38
#104
 | 
Finland JHdash77 
OMEGALUL
2019-09-11 16:08
#161
suNny | 
Finland nikke35 
Thats actually true =DD
2019-09-11 19:09
na region
2019-09-18 15:19
Overrated kid xaxaaax
2019-09-11 15:02
#13
 | 
Finland EZ_4_FINLAND 
I don't understand why some people are hating on sunny... It's not his fault int he slightest
2019-09-11 15:02
#45
Supmah | 
Sweden IvoS 
Are they really hating him. I thought they were hating on ence - aleksib
2019-09-11 15:14
#146
 | 
Other TapioKuusela 
I think it was first like that but got out of hands with kids and retards
2019-09-11 17:48
#180
 | 
Finland yEkQ 
more like that in here, but finnish kids losing they mind in fb/twitter/insta most of who probably started following cs (ence) in a year.. meaby..
2019-09-11 22:15
#224
TaZ | 
Finland Pikkunova 
Lmfao Imagine starting to follow cs in 2019
2019-09-12 21:28
#14
 | 
Turkey Aybars1 
omegalul nt
2019-09-11 15:02
GL sunny
2019-09-11 15:03
#17
NiKo | 
Korea csgowilco 
no aleksib no ence it's true so now who's gonna be igl of ENCE?
2019-09-11 15:04
Read the article..
2019-09-11 15:23
it's too long to read
2019-09-11 16:11
Allu
2019-09-11 16:33
Are you degenerate or what? You can read through that in like 5 minutes, how did you/how will you survive school?
2019-09-12 08:16
#120
 | 
Finland Faifainei 
I have watched all of thoorin duncan shields' videos so I know that they will have aerial as igl and secondary awper. Aleksib will go to crazy with Cold/Pasha when hunter and nexa leave for g2.
2019-09-11 16:35
Seems about right.
2019-09-11 17:22
#163
 | 
Germany killmichi 
Omegalul
2019-09-11 19:37
#73
 | 
Finland eMBeJaana 
read the interview
2019-09-11 15:31
maybe read the article..
2019-09-11 15:31
#19
 | 
Denmark Experative 
lmao nt ence. you will not be top 8 without tactical genius Aleksib. feelsbad i was enjoying how ence plays but now with sunny? i dont think so. he is not even in form
2019-09-11 15:12
#122
 | 
Finland Faifainei 
I take it that you have played fpl against Aurinkoinen?
2019-09-11 16:36
#250
 | 
Finland Hiedra 
+1 good translation
2019-09-14 02:21
#218
 | 
Latvia saluki 
+100
2019-09-12 15:48
Who will be IGL now in ENCE?
2019-09-11 15:04
Allu
2019-09-11 15:10
worked always bad
2019-09-11 15:15
Allu, and Sunny secondary.
2019-09-11 15:15
#74
 | 
Finland eMBeJaana 
read the interview
2019-09-11 15:31
#133
suNny | 
Finland jakem0n 
Yeah I'd agree but I guess this question was bait
2019-09-11 17:08
#132
suNny | 
Finland jakem0n 
8/8 or retarded. Idk.
2019-09-11 17:07
#21
 | 
Finland aleksi21324 
Why he looks like 40 in first photo???????
2019-09-11 15:05
#113
rain | 
Finland FocusMen 
Who cars? SunNy bestets aimers
2019-09-11 16:29
#127
 | 
Finland aleksi21324 
Yeah J agree with you
2019-09-11 16:45
cuz drugs
2019-09-12 21:36
#228
 | 
Finland aleksi21324 
Really
2019-09-12 22:19
Aleksib>ence.i think he can made faze good again. He made top 8 on major and got kicked
2019-09-11 15:07
i dont hate him
2019-09-11 15:06
#24
s1 | 
Armenia gr1nch 
"I think ENCE is a much a better team than we were with mousesports, even at our highest peak" lol
2019-09-11 15:06
2 majors carry by aleksib. No we will see what they can do without him. Good igl made matches. Just look at faze. No igl no win
2019-09-11 15:09
Major is a fluke joke right now. Did Ence won a big tournament?? At least mouz did.
2019-09-11 15:14
#76
 | 
Finland eMBeJaana 
Starseries and blast pro xd
2019-09-11 15:31
Navi won the last Starseries
2019-09-12 05:38
#229
 | 
Finland eMBeJaana 
Yes but ence won in 2k18
2019-09-12 22:34
Starseries against Vega without playing any good teams in playoffs. Vega eliminated everyone for you.
2019-09-12 16:12
#230
 | 
Finland eMBeJaana 
yes but to get to the final ence won against teams like mouz big optic and it was in 2k18
2019-09-12 22:35
They did play some big ones but Vega eliminated the big favorite from the playoffs
2019-09-12 23:14
#145
Aleksib | 
Finland xcel 
Blast
2019-09-11 17:36
Blast and a BIG Tournament? LUL
2019-09-12 05:38
#232
 | 
Finland eMBeJaana 
Yes 250k$ tournament with tier 1-2 teams is a big tournament
2019-09-12 22:37
ah nope not the prizemoney makes a tournament to a top tournament. But sweet how naive you are.
2019-09-13 08:06
#243
 | 
Finland eMBeJaana 
yes the prize pool and teams make a big tournament and blast is a big tournament no matter what you say
2019-09-13 09:10
nope competition level and format is more important. Liquidpedia considers it as an A-Tier this means equal on a level like a minor. S-Tier the top tournaments. go back to counterstrike school
2019-09-13 10:19
#249
rain | 
Finland FocusMen 
U had to go to cs school to learn this lol
2019-09-13 18:05
#147
 | 
Other TapioKuusela 
Allu was doing like 50% of calling tho?
2019-09-11 17:53
#114
rain | 
Finland FocusMen 
Its true
2019-09-11 16:29
It isnt. mouz was in several finals and Top 3 for quite a long time, ENCE hasnt been to that many finals. We dont know about the future, but for now, its factually not true.
2019-09-13 17:07
no Aleksib no ENCE. #botallu
2019-09-11 15:07
Even tho I don’t like this move at all... GL sunny and ence
2019-09-11 15:08
And Imp people shouldn’t hate sunny in this situation (if they are going to hate someone
2019-09-11 15:08
NO ALEXSI NO ENCE #FUCK
2019-09-11 15:08
#30
 | 
Turkey montpaylit 
nobody hates you
2019-09-11 15:08
allu is a bigger snake than Fallen lul From the bottom of my heart i actually wish that Ence becomes worse.... That they drop out of top 10 and that they regret that decision...
2019-09-11 15:09
#77
 | 
Finland eMBeJaana 
cool
2019-09-11 15:32
#136
suNny | 
Finland jakem0n 
I agree. Only good thing is that sunny is back again but unfortunately in a wrong team :(
2019-09-11 17:09
True... I don't understand allu's greed. Ence was doing more than fine... They will never be top 1 or at least not for a long time. They have nice teamplay + communication but none of them is a real "starplayer". They work as a unit but neither sunny, nor sergej or allu are as good as a s1mple, electronic, device, magisk, twistzz, elige ..... And they literally kicked their IGL without even talking about the "issues"...... And i like sunny, especially when he played for mouse...
2019-09-11 17:19
true but trash talking kids won't understand it
2019-09-12 01:00
You act as if you spent time inside the team - how the fuck can you know if they talked about their issues or not? Especially when allu mentions something like this in the interview? All the people pretending they know internal things about the teams smh...
2019-09-12 08:20
I am not pretending anything u idiot.... I am referring to the interview of AleksiB where he said that no one talked with him about this and that he was shocked..... Since neither of Ence says the opposite you have to assume that it is true. You also have to highlight sunnys statement in the recent interview where he said that he talked with allu and "some" Ence players... So stop talking when you dont even read the interviews.... "how the fuck can you know if they talked about their issues or not" => ALEKSI HIMSELF SAID THAT HE WOULD HAVE WISHED TO TALK ABOUT THESE ISSUES! READ THE FUCKING INTERVIEW
2019-09-12 10:29
U now realize after reading the newest interview + aleksi's reaction on twitter that you should shut up in the future?
2019-09-14 12:43
#139
 | 
Guatemala KlassiKer 
+1 same
2019-09-11 17:14
#34
 | 
Denmark oskarsports 
GL Brazzer
2019-09-11 15:09
welcome back
2019-09-11 17:28
#36
 | 
United Kingdom T_bus 
12-14 Y/OS BTFO'D BY SUNNY THE FUCKING GOD IM FEELING THANK YOU
2019-09-11 15:10
#39
 | 
World Notb8ing 
why'd u hate him anyway tho? Makes more sense hate allu and ence management if you are mad about aleksib thing...
2019-09-11 15:12
#40
 | 
Denmark Experative 
Also people should know that when Ence project was about to start back earlier in last year. Ence offered to sunny but he didnt want to take risk when he was good in mouz. he didnt want to do sacrfice for ence. Ence players came here from 0 but now he joins to ready team.
2019-09-11 15:14
you want more than top 5? LUL Sunny you aren't S1mple or you don't play for Liquid or Astralis. Watch mouz now. They didn't want a different team and they are good right now.
2019-09-11 15:13
#50
 | 
Denmark Experative 
+1 current mouz >>>>>>>>>>> Ence
2019-09-11 15:15
#69
 | 
Finland ta9239487234 
Dilate more :-DDD
2019-09-11 15:26
#183
zet | 
Switzerland MRKNUSPER 
lol based on what? current mouz for sure has been a dissappointment so far.. they had time enough ence > mouz 4 sure
2019-09-11 22:25
#94
Finland Fpot 
Didnt even make legends lul
2019-09-11 15:50
And everybody knows why. Major shit seeding and format.
2019-09-11 15:56
Lol yeah, blame the seeding as always. They only had to face TL because Avangar upset them in a BO1 KEK
2019-09-11 16:11
TL at 2:2 yeah so easy noob
2019-09-12 05:41
#130
 | 
North America xAriana 
no, it's because they played badly
2019-09-11 16:56
the mouz Liquid match was the best of this shit major.
2019-09-12 05:40
#177
zet | 
Switzerland MRKNUSPER 
dafuq are u even talking? mouz is trash, they havent done shit with the new roster.. ence >>> mouz old mouz >>> new mouz
2019-09-11 21:58
Ence was a fluke team with no big wins. Now with sunny they will drop down to the nirvana.
2019-09-12 05:39
#208
zet | 
Switzerland MRKNUSPER 
fLuKe TeAm, nO bIg wInS... but mouz had big wins or what? xD better go read up the definition of fluke... typical 12 y.o. s1mple fanboy
2019-09-12 09:28
Old mouz had a big win. New mouz is considered to be a top 5 team as well. Ence is still a fluke team and sunny change will make it more clear.
2019-09-12 12:35
#211
zet | 
Switzerland MRKNUSPER 
if u still call ence a fluke after being in top5 for almost the whole year so far, you either dont know what fluke means, or youre just braindead
2019-09-12 12:39
Top 5 to hold isn't hard Astralis was 1 even when they skip everything and liquid won everything
2019-09-12 12:46
fo sure bro, create a team with your friends an reach top5 and hold it for a year. it isnt hard.
2019-09-12 12:54
Yep when you are top 5 it is easy to hold. Nrg as example they won nothing only playoffs and hold in top 5 wow.
2019-09-12 12:57
okay, name a team who should be above them now.
2019-09-12 12:57
#42
jks | 
Australia 0iq_man 
allu: They have been listening to Thorin too much. (laughs) Lmfao
2019-09-11 15:13
No Aleksib, No ENCE. #NotMyENCE
2019-09-11 15:13
#44
nexa | 
United States cyrus2121 
Nobody hates you sunny, we just love aleksi more
2019-09-11 15:14
very detailed and good questions, nice
2019-09-11 15:14
#49
 | 
Turkey xxxjet3 
No aleksib no ence im sorry
2019-09-11 15:15
snake
2019-09-11 15:16
I honestly think AleksiB was an important piece of ENCE's success, I'd say they probably know better within the team, but we'll see.
2019-09-11 15:17
I hope he joins faze Met him in cologne. Was a nice dude and could bring proper leadership into faze
2019-09-11 15:20
FaZe is a trash team though. Sure they'll pay well, but as long as they have NiKo all IGLs will be undermined and it won't go anywhere, and AleksiB's stock will just go down. Him joining FaZe would probably be a bad choice.
2019-09-11 17:15
I think Aleksib and broky would be nice additions though. Either that or the team should disband. Coldzera doesn't add shit because faze lacks proper leadership and not firepower
2019-09-11 18:06
Yeah, but with NiKo (and Coldzera would just enhance the problem) there can be no leadership. Karrigan is the best IGL there is and they threw him out.
2019-09-11 19:29
No idea why you're so focused on Niko. Karrigan and the team lost faith in karrigans calls. How can you win if you don't believe in yourself? Olofs break was their downfall , that was the problem. Not Niko. He tried to fix the problem. Didn't work in the end but there was a change needed and it worked at the beginning
2019-09-11 22:14
FaZe was overtaken by better teams and Niko thought they would be better if he did the calling, which obviously didn't work out, so instead they blamed Karrigan's bad fragging and just kicked him out. Basically ever since Karrigan stopped calling for them they've gotten worse, and it's pretty obvious who's to blame for Karrigan being usurped and then kicked. Karrigan was, and still is, the best IGL around, which is why, despite having lower fragging power, Mouz still does better than FaZe overall.
2019-09-11 22:35
Not true. With karrigans calling 0-2 at a major. Niko secured them playoffs in London. They needed a change but kicking karrigan was obv the wrong move in hindsight
2019-09-12 14:39
#56
 | 
China sunzhengcai 
‘They’ve been listening to Thorin too much’ LOL
2019-09-11 15:18
Lmao #58
2019-09-11 22:14
allu: They have been listening to Thorin too much. (laughs) Lmao
2019-09-11 15:19
#60
Snax | 
Europe skrekc 
WINLAND!
2019-09-11 15:20
good luck suNny and ENCE!
2019-09-11 15:22
sunny is amazing player
2019-09-11 15:22
#65
 | 
South America mik00 
Vagabundo
2019-09-11 15:23
I don’t hate him I just like aleksib :)
2019-09-11 15:23
only hate Aleksi "twofaced" Jalli
2019-09-11 15:24
#70
shox | 
India iejesus 
dont disrespect aleksi like that
2019-09-11 15:26
#71
 | 
Russia m8ms 
noone hates sunny, wtf is he talking about
2019-09-11 15:26
#72
 | 
Finland Siika 
huutista XD kemppi o alfa!
2019-09-11 15:30
ence without aleksib - top30 end of the year @ me in 2020
2019-09-11 15:33
#79
 | 
Ukraine ksay 
sorry ence but you can't not go b but actually go b without tactical mastermind aleksib no top4 for you brothers
2019-09-11 15:33
#80
 | 
Poland mtumee 
looking forward to ENCE falling outside the top 10
2019-09-11 15:33
cry is free mouz fan, we know u just mad sunny went to the better team xD
2019-09-11 15:43
#221
 | 
Poland mtumee 
? XD
2019-09-12 18:50
#81
 | 
Australia yaboyazza 
All the best to suNny, all the worst to allu
2019-09-11 15:35
#251
 | 
Finland Hiedra 
How does this work? It's not in an insulting manner, but how if they're in the same team?
2019-09-14 02:31
#262
tarik | 
Finland remm_ 
Allu bottomfrag sunny top then -allu i think what he means
2019-09-15 15:01
#263
 | 
Finland Hiedra 
Big smart
2019-09-15 19:41
allu: "They have been listening to Thorin too much. (laughs)" LOL
2019-09-11 15:43
I don't hate SuNny for this, it wasn't his decision to kick Aleksib. He is merely looking for a team to play on. The true villains are the other 4, especially allu.
2019-09-11 15:44
+1 exactly
2019-09-11 15:55
Agree. If they wanted more firepower, they had two other options to get rid of lol
2019-09-11 17:08
#160
 | 
Finland Karppanator 
#1 best option to get rid of was deadweight xseveN, it was never a contest. At least kicking aerial was way better to argue for as well than aleksi.
2019-09-11 19:03
#88
nexa | 
Europe Luboss 
So they basically replaced him because they thought Sunny could be better in his role? Lmao if the team fails they're going to feel real'bad and wonder why they kept BOT allu
2019-09-11 15:44
#119
 | 
China LYrpz 
They replaced him cause of the lack of firepower.
2019-09-11 16:34
#125
nexa | 
Europe Luboss 
And Allu can frag lmao? He has an awp, he should almost be the top fragger everytime but in pratice he only pops off in one map out of a tournament or in the early stages and becomes useless against top tier oponents; frankly even without IGLing or "half-IGLing" in ENCE he was still bad, just hope for him that being the dedicated IGL makes his game better and I highly doubt it and I'm afraid he's going to feed even more the BOT allu highlight videos on YTB.
2019-09-11 16:44
Am I the only one who thinks that was a bullshit answer? If firepower was the problem, there were two other members that were much worse than Aleksib
2019-09-11 17:10
#167
nexa | 
Europe Luboss 
Yhea it was bullshit, both aerial and Xseven were way worse... Alexsib is at least in the top 30-40 of pros in 2019 and has a positive rating if I remember correctly. Allu is a top 20 player i think but he's an awper^^ and Sergej is a top 15-10 player already pretty much better than Sunny last year...
2019-09-11 20:37
#89
 | 
United States @FyreCS 
Let’s be honest, they is bad blood with the team and Alexsib
2019-09-11 15:46
nice englando
2019-09-11 15:59
#131
 | 
African Union black1ch 
Expected from USA
2019-09-11 17:01
#175
 | 
United States @FyreCS 
thank you mens))))))))))))
2019-09-11 21:29
why the f*ck are ENCE bringing in some old ****** to the team that has done nothing but sitting on the bench
2019-09-11 15:47
#117
 | 
China LYrpz 
literally the best finnish player to ever live.
2019-09-11 16:33
#126
nexa | 
Europe Luboss 
Sergej is already better than him
2019-09-11 16:45
+1
2019-09-11 17:09
0/8
2019-09-11 16:47
#95
 | 
Austria Tw1RLY 
GL having an amazing Ingameleader Ence.
2019-09-11 15:54
Sunny hated? Wtf XD
2019-09-11 15:54
excited to see in practice how this team will manage all the top tier teams. Cant wait :D ELUKKAVELJEKSET <3
2019-09-11 16:00
Give me thorins reaction on that thorin mention in the interview
2019-09-11 16:00
#202
Zeus | 
Finland 0lter 
I mean thorin has been saying they will add sunny ever since this team was made
2019-09-12 07:48
#102
 | 
Brazil Skrol 
GOD
2019-09-11 16:01
Good read
2019-09-11 16:10
Im not scared about in-game calling but very scared about tactics they practise outside of the game...
2019-09-11 16:14
#181
sergej | 
Finland AxuZD 
Rush b
2019-09-11 22:18
#109
 | 
Switzerland x676 
Nice interview
2019-09-11 16:14
#110
sh1ro | 
China kazuk1 
allu became two-faced maybe
2019-09-11 16:19
Ence should be hated after they signed aleksi be till the end of 2021 just before benching him
2019-09-11 16:20
#264
 | 
Croatia KeZual96 
Some team will probably buy him out of the concract so he will be fine
2019-09-15 20:19
#112
 | 
United States joke_cs 
I don't hate you Sunny :)
2019-09-11 16:24
#115
 | 
China LYrpz 
Who knew a God could be hated.
2019-09-11 16:32
good luck aleksib, best of luck to you
2019-09-11 16:33
Finland CS from no name to : have talents more than 2 teams.
2019-09-11 16:35
I would say Finland had top3 most talented players ever in cs (after Sweden and USA), but our scene was very toxic and unprofessional for the past 15 years.
2019-09-11 16:49
#168
nexa | 
Europe Luboss 
french cs and poland?????
2019-09-11 20:38
Finland always had talented players, but Top 3? Slow down. Sweden, Denmark, USA are obviously ahead and then Finland comes in a group with Germany, Poland, France, Canada, Ukraine.
2019-09-13 17:59
Yeah, but you used to be one of the most hateful and toxic 1.6 players in Finland (at least towards me for no reason). Now you can taste it yourself too. Bad karma bro. :)
2019-09-11 16:40
Since when is he hated lol, man some pro's love the the old victim complex.
2019-09-11 17:27
#148
 | 
United Kingdom n33b 
Why did he decide to look as though he was literally homeless for 7 months?
2019-09-11 18:02
Allu is so solid no good team play. then he decided to bench aleksib. it's worst decision
2019-09-11 18:06
Nobody hates sunny, they hate ence for cutting alexib. This "Fuel my fire" platitude sounds emptier than the grand canyon as well, i wish players would cut the pr bullshit
2019-09-11 18:17
#154
fer | 
World loopoos 
you are an awesome player sunny! hope to see you crippling astralis
2019-09-11 18:27
It would be funny if they became worse but they will probably be the same or better
2019-09-11 18:29
#156
Aleksib | 
Finland mmusi 
We will see how this will turn out.
2019-09-11 18:38
#157
 | 
Croatia Makz_CRO 
I will enjoy it very much when ENCE fails to deliver results. allu and sunny, butt buddies, wanted to play together for a long time. They kicked aleksib the moment they got a chance.
2019-09-11 18:48
#169
nexa | 
Europe Luboss 
yhea they feel like they were stuck lmao... could be true but the fact that he doesn't realize it's a mental thing before being a physical thing is unreal... you're "stuck" but you miss twenty awp shots per half? Go fucking train individually at least and see what happens jesus...
2019-09-11 20:40
Ence will suck cock. They deserve it becouse of Katowice. That had to be liquid vs Astralis finals.
2019-09-11 18:53
#159
 | 
Finland Karppanator 
This article reads like bad news to me. He admits being a teammate who didn't want to play with their current team for several months and wanted the benching himself. This'll end well, surely with comments like ''This team is better now than Mous ever was'' while ENCE hasn't really won shit compared to Mouz- 1 Blast Pro series win isn't anything.
2019-09-11 19:02
#170
nexa | 
Europe Luboss 
yhea unfortunately making deep runs without actual trophies is not rewarding... Vitality has had a better year than ENCE despite all their problems and it's just because they've won trophies...
2019-09-11 20:41
#173
 | 
Finland Karppanator 
They have a stronger case for sure, ENCE is currently building a reputation of choking every time they need to show aimskills
2019-09-11 21:03
#186
nexa | 
Europe Luboss 
Shame they deserved at least tier 1 tournament tbh...
2019-09-11 22:47
His hair looks like a birdnest.
2019-09-11 19:50
#165
s1mple | 
Europe Sam2k 
i feel tenk u
2019-09-11 20:23
#171
 | 
Finland Autisthicc 
bruh sunny i have got to adress your instagram posts please dont post close up selfies without a shirt and with your birds nest hair trying to look all cute for the womens dude i dont wan see that shit bro put that on your story atleast
2019-09-11 20:51
I don't know Sunny so I surely don't hate him. What I dislike most is the process itself, and there the guilty ones are the ones making the decisions. Everyone knows that the process of getting Sunny to the team surely took more than two weeks. So everyone knew about it but Aleksib. Then they dropped the bomb after pretending not knowing about the change. That's total crap. Some respect on the team members. No honeyed words will change the fact that the change was not done or discussed openly. Also the loss of the spokesman, very likable player to the audience, is not easy to recover from. Now, I have no idea if the team will do better or worse. The way the situation was handled was the thing that made me turn away from the team. You just don't do that to people.
2019-09-11 20:55
#188
 | 
World madman112 
Agree. Plus it was a dickhead move from ENCE to make Aleksi sign a new contract with them and then bench him right after.
2019-09-11 23:15
I forgot about the contracts. Totally dickhead move.
2019-09-12 07:02
At least this works both ways, if they succeed it'll be nice to see them rise in rank, on the other hand if they will suck, it'll be nice to say "told ya so". Replacing Aerial had been much safer choice imo, xseven has such a clear role while he's not their stat padder is too important role-wise while Aerial isn't contributing enough in his role for the last few tournaments meanwhile SunNy would likely be much more useful in the same role.
2019-09-11 21:10
#185
zet | 
Switzerland MRKNUSPER 
agree, but lets wait and see.. if its like its written in the interview and sunny fits aleksis role the best, it could work out.. remains be seen how much of an impact aleksis ingame leading has had on their performances.. i guess it might be less than people on hltv might think
2019-09-11 22:37
#253
 | 
Finland Hiedra 
+1 good respectful comment (I like you for your intellectual words)
2019-09-14 02:39
#176
valde | 
Finland Juvi 
Good read. Great change imo
2019-09-11 21:31
#182
 | 
Portugal joaosenra 
Rest In Peace Ence Aleksib deserve an better team ... he build ENCE and now is getting kicked kkkk
2019-09-11 22:20
#187
 | 
Sri Lanka kvezee 
he will fuck them, its will be a beautiful show
2019-09-11 22:49
what a cocky guy omg
2019-09-12 01:34
#199
 | 
Europe gorms 
Him and allu were the entire finnish cs scene and he was star player on top 5 team and kids calling him shit, he just assuming himself as alpha as i would
2019-09-12 05:53
#201
 | 
Qatar olaolakaka 
allu two-faced toledo
2019-09-12 07:37
#203
 | 
Latvia Maksabox 
Sunny a.k.a Bunny
2019-09-12 08:09
Just leaving a comment here so i can look at this when ence is tier 5 again, nt for dropping aleksibob for kemppi
2019-09-12 08:26
kick allu from ENCe, fucking bot.
2019-09-12 12:48
fan of flipsid3
2019-09-12 22:36
fan of biggest throwers eBettle.
2019-09-12 23:42
who tf is ebettle
2019-09-12 23:54
#255
 | 
North America karalumano 
+1 he dont know shit about tactical. only knows how to awp without awp he is shit and his awping is not tht good to be honest.
2019-09-14 02:41
+1
2019-09-14 11:53
Aleksi "TwoFaced" Jalli
2019-09-12 20:52
#227
 | 
Europe Niko0 
Couple things, Allu didnt bench aleksib, org did. Sunny>Aleksib XSeven 9th best faceit player in Eu, just plays difficult position and baits for trades etc. This isnt the end of Ence, more like rise to the number 1 spot. Also the team that takes aleksib is gona be sick, most likely same level as ence is going to be. I rest my case
2019-09-12 22:14
#236
 | 
United States Acehavok 
He needs to shave, facial hair looks horrible
2019-09-13 00:28
very good
2019-09-13 08:24
#239
 | 
Finland ENCEL 
Sunny looks so rough in this picture. I guess being off a team took a toll on him ahaha
2019-09-13 08:39
does he use heroin or something?
2019-09-13 08:54
i feel thenk you
2019-09-13 08:59
#246
 | 
World memyselfandI 
fak
2019-09-13 11:47
yikes
2019-09-14 02:37
#254
 | 
North America karalumano 
lul no one hates you sunny. people hate what you guys did to aleksib and ence.
2019-09-14 02:40
#259
Frankie | 
Europe oha84 
dont know why he was benched - he was strong @ mouz
2019-09-14 14:04
#278
 | 
Europe tweekzter 
He benched himself cause he thought he deserved a better team.
2019-09-18 20:54
#281
Frankie | 
Europe oha84 
he was right
2019-09-19 15:41
rusty bot
2019-09-14 14:05
Rest in ashes dirty fa*ot
2019-09-14 18:55
sunny shit enjoy tier 3 cancer garbage fudck fuck fuck fuckf
2019-09-15 20:20
#267
 | 
Chile strong221 
feeling thank u
2019-09-16 16:37
Feelink*
2019-09-17 17:12
#271
 | 
Sweden Akoulad 
get lost drug addict
2019-09-17 18:27
#277
 | 
Europe tweekzter 
I hope they will fail miserably.
2019-09-18 20:52
#279
cyx | 
Europe jujin_Ss 
WTF suNNy looks like a random trapper and Xanax addict
2019-09-18 21:06
go f yourself sunny
2019-09-19 00:28
#282
 | 
United Kingdom Xradas185 
Lol "soon" Either way good luck Sunny
2019-09-19 19:47
I dont think Sunny is hated. Its more like Aerial and Ence.
2019-09-21 20:25
Login or register to add your comment to the discussion.