JW: "The hard work starts now; we can't approach this like last time and expect [more wins] to come naturally"

We spoke to one of the champions of DreamHack Masters Malmö, Jesper "JW" Wecksell, about fnatic's grand final triumph over Vitality and about the first win with the new lineup.

The hard-fought battle of the grand final began with fnatic dropping a 14-12 lead on Dust2 to start the series with a map deficit, but they equalized the best-of-three once they didn't let Vitality do the same thing to them on Inferno, recovering in overtime there before closing the series out on Mirage thanks to a dominant CT side.

JW talked about winning in front of a big Swedish crowd for the first time

After the match, we got a hold of JW to talk through the problems with closing maps on Dust2 and Inferno and their source of strength in overtimes, where they've shown a lot of resilience, winning all three maps that went past regulation for them throughout the Swedish tournament.

The 24-year-old also commented on winning his first event in front of a big Swedish crowd and on what fnatic need to do in order to continue succeeding with their new lineup.

On Dust2, Vitality came back from the 12-14 deficit with four in a row, what happened in those last four rounds and how did it slip away?

I would say I made a very, very big mistake, I think it was at 14-12 when I was rotating to top mid and I was going to lock them out from rotating back from long. I don't know, for some reason I thought they were going to save or something, but shox caught me off-guard, and I think we played that 3v3 pretty poorly. That cost us a lot of mental strength, I think. We kept going, but it just didn't work out. I think we messed up Dust2 in general, especially by that round, when we lost that it was really hard to come back from it.

Something similar happened on the second map, not being able to turn that 15-10 into a win and it went to overtime. What did you struggle with there and how did you manage to recover in overtime?

We got a bit overhyped, I think, and we wanted to put it into their faces, we went aggressive, but aggressiveness doesn't really work against them that well. That round was not good and it was a bad call for us to play aggressive, I think. They started to play really well and we started to be a bit stressed out, so we made some poor rotations and bad decisions overall. But then in overtime, flusha said to everybody "just calm down, take a breath, we're going to do this thing on banana and it's going to work, just play calmly, communicate calmly, and we're going to do this easily." We started to play very calm, I would say, and his banana take worked the first round, so we knew they weren't going to go banana again and we didn't play three there. And then the last round we won was actually a sick call by flusha, where they knew we were going towards A, it was a few seconds left and flusha said "they don't have banana control, make a lot of noise, rush down mid, so just do that and we're going to sneak up to A again." We did that and Brollan caught RpK off-guard on short, I think, and the other guys were in rotation, so that call was amazing and definitely closed out the game for us.

You've definitely shown some resilience at this tournament with three overtime wins. Now that you're talking about flusha calling in overtime, I remember that was the case with the previous versions of fnatic, as well, where he often stepped up in that position. Is that your source of strength in these situations?

Yeah, definitely. Before, it was more like a thing within the team that we didn't really talk about and it just happened, but in this team, when we built it, we said that flusha is going to have more say in in-game leading. At first, it was supposed to be flusha as the in-game leader and call for us, but now that we got Golden instead we just said from the start that flusha was going to be involved. Golden is totally fine with that, as well, and he thinks flusha has really amazing calls and is a really smart player, so the whole team is fine with that and it is a strength for us now.

JW had lots of praise to say on the topic of flusha's impact in overtime on Inferno

Tell me about the domination on the CT side of Mirage, was it easy to read them, figure out what they were doing?

Kind of, I would say. We knew that they would play a lot on ZywOo, flash over A, let him peek CT, stuff like that. They want to set up ZywOo for peeks, basically, and I think we were able to counter it early. Then I think they lost confidence a bit and started to make some poor decisions, and also we had some lucky rotations, KRIMZ had one insane round that gave us 15 rounds, for example. But I think when we closed down their early peaks in the beginning, they started to lack confidence. That's just how it goes, I guess.

If I'm not mistaken, this is your first win in front of a big Swedish crowd. You've won countless titles but none with so much support behind you, how did that feel?

It feels amazing. Especially, as you said, being in front of our own fans. It was a bit rough in the beginning, playing against NiP, because NiP is the biggest Swedish brand and all that. But yeah, I think we won the crowd over on our side after we beat Astralis, so it felt great to have this amazing atmosphere in the final and to even close it out for them, as well. We have been kind of jinxed during the Masters tournaments, we have failed so hard at them every time, especially in Sweden, and we didn't really have these kinds of events in Sweden when we were dominant, so it feels amazing and it feels kind of like that they get this for our earlier domination they missed out on.

Now, considering this tournament had a lot of a new teams, people will obviously say that we have to wait until fnatic play at the next event, how do you see that at this point?

I totally understand that. I think it's natural, it's even a good thing. I hope and know that we're not going to be satisfied here. The hard work starts now. Fluking one tournament obviously can happen, even though you have to play really, really good, of course. We can take tonight off and party, that's totally fine for me, but tomorrow it's back to the drawing board. We need to move on, we can't approach this like last time and expect us to just do it naturally, we need to first think about how we made it happen, and then we need to progress and make it even better for next time. I understand people doubting us for the future, but I'm confident that we're going to keep working really, really hard and hopefully prove them wrong.

Sweden Jesper 'JW' Wecksell
Jesper 'JW' Wecksell
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2019-10-06 22:08
Twistzz | 
Canada Dash_ 
ez jw
2019-10-06 22:09
2019-10-06 22:11
Europe chespiZ 
krimz is OP
2019-10-06 22:55
Nice interview PIG.
2019-10-07 05:47
flusha | 
Armenia balayan 
2019-10-07 09:59
Best pig to ever play cs go in history.
2019-10-07 07:20
Frankie | 
Slovakia M4tk0  
*after zywho.
2019-10-07 14:13
Germany DerYann 
2019-10-06 22:08
NEO | 
Brazil je^ 
gratz fnatic!
2019-10-06 23:02
United States _icedtea 
fnatic!! I was like “if Fnatic beat astralis I will ask my crush out” when it was going on
2019-10-07 02:49
And how did that go?
2019-10-07 07:31
United States VRGcarsonqi 
Yeah ^^
2019-10-07 08:05
United States _icedtea 
uhm she said yes
2019-10-07 12:53
United States VRGcarsonqi 
Ayyyyy XD
2019-10-07 14:25
United States _icedtea 
2019-10-07 14:43
so you did it mens, congrats)))))
2019-10-07 17:30
United States _icedtea 
tl;dr because of fnatic i have a gf now
2019-10-07 17:58
2019-10-09 19:39
CeRq | 
Poland RoDaK 
bump for story
2019-10-07 11:57
Germany PeKay 
2019-10-06 22:09
Croatia Bruca 
2019-10-06 22:09
United States DervGuy 
Old school Fnatic with new blood Brollan = Orgasm
2019-10-06 22:10
flusha | 
Europe XXXPAK1 
2019-10-07 07:27
Spain Pollete 
Wise words from a wise man
2019-10-06 22:11
Switzerland meme_jesus 
2019-10-06 22:11
2019-10-06 22:11
Nepal ramann 
GG guys
2019-10-06 22:11
New Zealand Reubydoobydoo 
Ez for the style king JW. Literally oozes swag as he plays
2019-10-06 22:12
2019-10-06 22:40
flusha | 
Norway dr_fiji 
bestest description of JW
2019-10-07 08:07
2019-10-06 22:12
Moldova OptimusBlyad 
Now it seems like JW has become very smart in that way!Respect
2019-10-06 22:13
Australia BigBlackCaulk 
Flusha <3
2019-10-06 22:17
LaimB | 
Lithuania Martis 
So happy for them, let's go fnatic
2019-10-06 22:20
flusha | 
Spain 6Kiwi9 
2019-10-06 22:21
World DygL 
2019-10-06 22:22
United States VRGcarsonqi 
2019-10-07 08:09
frozen | 
Czech Republic PlaSSma 
-aleksib = ez win? LMAO
2019-10-07 10:48
2019-10-06 22:23
JW | 
Turkey Diveland 
god <3
2019-10-06 22:23
Xyp9x | 
Brazil Jeanzera 
In overtime, flusha said to everybody "just calm down, take a breath, we're going to do this thing on banana and it's going to work, just play calmly, communicate calmly, and we're going to do this easily." Jesper "JW" Wecksell PURE GOD SENOR VAC
2019-10-06 22:24
flusha | 
Germany sanos 
the brain GOAT of cs
2019-10-06 22:29
Brazil EG_Undefetead 
JW God Golden never was the problem
2019-10-06 22:24
Bulgaria vectralsoul 
2019-10-06 22:26
+1 why is he so humble after all his achievements. Compared to others who become so cocky already
2019-10-07 04:51
2019-10-07 08:16
+1 We all remember MSL vs. Astralis last month in New York. Cocky^10 "I heard device say we don't have tactical depth on Dust2 so I hope they will pick it again and we'll see who has tactical depth" - the next day Astralis picks Dust2 against OpTic and shatters them 16-7. Lul
2019-10-07 15:14
CeRq | 
Poland RoDaK 
because he didnt win a single tournament since 2018 lmfao
2019-10-07 11:58
CeRq | 
Poland RoDaK 
they have won 1 in 2017 1 in 2018 and now 1 in 2019, they are done for the year :D
2019-10-07 11:59
They didn't win anything in 2017, they won IEM Katowice 2018 and later won WESG 2017 (in 2018, but Chinese call it 2017 for some reason), and they won useless PLG, now in 2019 they start with DH Malmo
2019-10-07 12:09
2019-10-07 12:09
CeRq | 
Poland RoDaK 
eat shit
2019-10-07 12:12
Since you're from Poorland, I think even shit would feed you so I'll give it to you generously :)
2019-10-07 21:39
CeRq | 
Poland RoDaK 
2019-10-07 21:51
2019-10-07 23:59
rain | 
United Kingdom Kaiiid 
Flusha wasn't even as good as I thought he'd be this tournament
2019-10-06 22:28
Coz he is a support player, and also a secondary caller/lurker sometimes
2019-10-06 22:41
Sweden XenoRex 
He is also a very smart player and was playing or atleast calling as an igl
2019-10-06 22:47
rain | 
United Kingdom Kaiiid 
Thought krimz would be support like the old FNATIC
2019-10-07 07:10
Old fnatic had olof as a star player that's why krimz was support.
2019-10-07 08:06
rain | 
United Kingdom Kaiiid 
Oh okay thanks
2019-10-07 09:01
Poland Julka 
This team can do very well. We have a great combination of players from one country, everyone has his role. I wasn't sure about Golden, but it looks like he's doing a great job. I really like it that flusha is also calling. It's good for Golden, he can focus on playing better
2019-10-06 22:29
Netherlands juandeag22 
2019-10-07 10:17
2019-10-07 12:06
Canada nt_Michael_V 
FNC = Fnatic's New Century
2019-10-06 22:32
2019-10-06 23:46
Ok JW juste want to say you was insane in final ,keep going
2019-10-06 22:33
China vivoz3 
jw upup
2019-10-06 22:34
2019-10-06 22:40
Russia xtkjdtr01 
2019-10-06 22:43
''Kind of, I would say. We knew that they would play a lot on ZywOo, flash over A, let him peak CT, stuff like that.'' PEAK?????????
2019-10-06 22:45
2019-10-06 22:46
Well spoken !
2019-10-06 22:53
xaxaxaxa, fluke, bottom 15 next event
2019-10-06 22:55
Sweden Hampzuka 
Well spoken, and so deserved! will be awesome to see more from you soon.
2019-10-06 22:58
(JW best)
2019-10-06 22:59
Hope its not empty words, good luck <3
2019-10-06 22:59
Sweden Trkmag 
Peak? You mean peek HLTV?
2019-10-06 23:21
United States KevinUSA 
These legends are back! Congrats!
2019-10-07 00:04
2019-10-07 00:08
“Gave us 15 rounds”? Wow, anyone who followed the match able to verify?
2019-10-07 01:45
Netherlands juandeag22 
He gave then 15-11 so the 15th roubd
2019-10-07 10:18
Gave us 15th round should've said anluko
2019-10-07 12:06
This guy is actually CS royalty. So happy for him.
2019-10-07 01:50
2019-10-07 02:15
2019-10-07 02:57
Europe Nomarosa 
2019-10-07 05:08
Just one event and era is gone this type of words last time xizt told last year after wining the pgl event
2019-10-07 05:56
golden is back and fnatic is winning! coincidence? certainly not!
2019-10-07 07:15
Germany Dr_Lurchi 
JW became much more mature and humble with the time and even admits, that his behavior back in the days was often wrong/unacceptable whereas other players (caugh gla1ve caugh) get cockier with every day
2019-10-07 10:27
Yeah, jw improved as a person and as you say magisk and gla1ve are cockier and more selfish as the time goes on. Also didn't cold say he made device cry because he told him that device was cocky and didn't talk to him when astralis was #1
2019-10-07 12:04
gla1ve just plays the rivalry game, and yeah, magisk is cocky in front of a microphone, but hardly ingame. The clip where he gets scolded by a teammate in dust2 after winning the 3rd major is a good example. He's a good guy. lulwut story about device... Speaking of cocky, just look at cold, fer and not to mention apex and especially Tarik. F* that guy...
2019-10-07 15:41
Japan AyayaMaruyama 
Thanks JW, very cool! xd Definitely most improved mentally and had a better way of approaching things both in and out the game, definitely have a chance to restart their era! I do hope they keep working hard to get better.
2019-10-07 10:45
Great interview, also really nice to see flusha helping golden with calls. Gl
2019-10-07 12:05
Luxembourg alex24 
fnatic era never ended... just paused from katowice 2018 to malmo 2019 :D
2019-10-07 15:31
Poland Xorek 
Krimz robbed again ;d
2019-10-07 15:43
Australia Lolfeminists 
You won a tournament full of teams who are tired and fatigued. Where were you all year when it actually mattered. Fluke win.
2019-10-07 19:57
fan of faze lul
2019-10-08 00:00
Thanks JW, you inspired me to to work hard and improve my cs skills, the grind starts today
2019-10-07 23:59
Flusha now with the wallhacks to make calls, nice
2019-10-08 00:11
United Kingdom LxDoughty08 
Nice to see them doing well again, hope they didnt just get lucky, though it doesn't look that way.
2019-10-08 00:47
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