DreamHack Open Winter to be played on latest patch with agents disabled

DreamHack have joined ECS and ESL in banning the use of the new player models in their tournaments.

The latest update to CS:GO brought a price increase to the SG553 and buffed the Galil and Famas. Along with the weapon changes came a new operation, Shattered Web, and the ability to change the player models the same way as one would with weapon skins.

The new player models, called agents, have not been without criticism, however, as certain models can create a competitive advantage in certain situations due to visibility issues as Roald Van Buuren, FACEIT's Director of Esports, put it when tweeting that they would not be used at the upcoming ECS finals.

DreamHack join the list of TO's not using the new agents

One day after FACEIT, ESL issued a similar statement, also via Twitter, aligning themselves with ECS and the CSPPA in not allowing the new agents to be used in their tournaments for the time being.

DreamHack have now come out and joined the aforementioned tournament organizers in banning the new agents at DreamHack Open Winter, which is set to take place from November 29th to December 1st in Jönkoping, Sweden, and where the new patch will be in play.

The Swedish tournament organizer also stated they will monitor the developments surrounding these new player models ahead of DreamHack Open Sevilla, the last stop in the Open tour this year which is slated to take place mid-December.

very good tbh
2019-11-25 16:51
model skins have no place in pro cs
2019-11-25 16:52
it was hack on 1.6
2019-11-25 16:59
#29
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Czech Republic Xedys 
ok
2019-11-25 17:15
#51
HS | 
Estonia qoznyyy 
goodold blocky red/blue skins
2019-11-25 18:24
+1
2019-11-25 18:50
I remember lol u press auto assign and ur a terrorist all of a sudden
2019-11-26 01:08
#82
bite | 
France ProfNori 
it have place but must be the exact same size as the original models + visibility improvement
2019-11-25 20:08
What? There should definitely be new models from time to time. But after they got released, CSPPA, organizers and Valve should come together and discuss improvements on that model(s) if there are any visibility issues or whatever.
2019-11-25 20:10
#124
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Ireland DazzyCS 
Yea but valve often don’t listen to the pros that’s why the csppa is advising TO’s to ban them bc they now Valve will take ages to adjust them
2019-11-26 18:16
#2
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Russia amc20 
Good
2019-11-25 16:51
#3
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Turkey xxxjet3 
Expected no models in pro scene
2019-11-25 16:52
except aleksib
2019-11-25 16:53
N1
2019-11-25 16:58
+1
2019-11-25 17:02
#22
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United States IronTiger76 
+1
2019-11-25 17:06
#24
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Australia zanics 
dont forget rez hes handsome af
2019-11-25 17:11
#102
NiKo | 
Serbia dvrtomic 
-1
2019-11-25 23:39
#122
sergej | 
Finland KentNT 
Cerq is my free card
2019-11-26 16:46
+1
2019-11-25 17:20
+1
2019-11-25 17:24
#36
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Finland Love_God 
+1
2019-11-25 17:34
lmao +1
2019-11-25 17:36
+1
2019-11-25 17:40
+1 lmao
2019-11-25 17:48
+2
2019-11-25 18:14
10+ replies still underrated
2019-11-25 18:27
+1, but he is not in the pro scene rn either.
2019-11-25 18:28
#60
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Brazil Karlogaria 
F
2019-11-25 18:45
#57
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Finland suxiboxi1 
+1
2019-11-25 18:35
+1
2019-11-25 18:38
#69
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Panama FUN4ENCE 
+1
2019-11-25 19:04
#76
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Spain akproxx 
+1
2019-11-25 19:43
#77
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Argentina p1nguinit0 
+1
2019-11-25 19:54
#80
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Kazakhstan Bombardian 
LOL +1
2019-11-25 20:03
#81
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Brazil candymau 
+1 well deserved lmao
2019-11-25 20:04
+1
2019-11-25 20:21
+1
2019-11-25 20:50
#94
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Poland Lukovsky 
+1
2019-11-25 21:15
#95
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Portugal R4nger)( 
+1
2019-11-25 21:16
#96
KSCERATO | 
Brazil frkkZ 
+1
2019-11-25 21:19
#116
JW | 
Turkey LantarEZ 
Took me some time +1
2019-11-26 10:36
thanks to his hairdresser
2019-11-26 16:17
+1
2019-11-27 22:47
#88
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North America Jxmes 
+1
2019-11-25 20:30
nice
2019-11-25 16:52
nice
2019-11-25 16:52
Cool
2019-11-25 16:53
kkkkkk
2019-11-25 16:53
#11
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Georgia Broozman 
good decision
2019-11-25 16:53
good
2019-11-25 16:53
YES I my eyes wont bleed while watching these matches!!! (Volvo remove agents)
2019-11-25 16:55
Agents should never be enabled, but perhaps maybe they do for one tournament so the pros can show valve how broken they are. Imagine agents at the major
2019-11-25 16:56
They will be at the major, if valve is involved
2019-11-25 17:21
This would be harious lmao
2019-11-25 17:36
tragic
2019-11-25 20:15
There might end up being a gentlemrn's agreement not to use them
2019-11-25 17:54
yeah problaby big will be agreed to not use them but still abuse them anyways if they can qualify for it tho xD
2019-11-25 18:45
#87
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Finland Juvi 
Wouldnt be surprised =D
2019-11-25 20:28
#98
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Brazil |witcher| 
+1
2019-11-25 22:22
+1
2019-11-26 01:48
Agents will 100% be coming to majors. Theyll have team agents with their logos on them. But since the pros will use them then they will have to be basically the default skins with just a small logo otherwise teams with bright logos would stand out too much
2019-11-26 02:54
#17
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Finland Smoonah 
good. fucking shit update anyway
2019-11-25 17:01
Krieg nerf and galil/famas buff was nice
2019-11-25 19:15
#73
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Finland Smoonah 
except that, rest is shit.
2019-11-25 19:19
#78
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Canada k3l 
i like the missions and maps they’re fun
2019-11-25 19:58
#89
shrek | 
United States 69420 
Just shut the fuck up You're fuckinG annoying
2019-11-25 20:47
#90
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Finland Smoonah 
No 🐕
2019-11-25 20:47
good thing, eventho i wouldnt mind if they added a setting like in CS:S that you could choose which models to use on either team
2019-11-25 17:02
SAS one for ct is nice
2019-11-25 17:04
#41
lynxi | 
Sweden lyNxiiii 
always used that command in 1.6 cl_minmodels 1
2019-11-25 17:45
yea didnt remember if it was a thing in 1.6 too
2019-11-25 17:50
expected valve, please fix
2019-11-25 17:04
#23
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China SwooksarV2 
Smh pussy event organizers afraid of change.
2019-11-25 17:09
#25
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United Kingdom Cryaosic 
They don't care , it's more about players.
2019-11-25 17:11
They should tweak the models. If cs 1.6 could be competitive with 8 different models so can csgo.
2019-11-25 17:12
leet crew master race
2019-11-25 17:14
Leet crew and gsg-9 were my favorites.
2019-11-25 17:17
imagine not using cl_minmodels 1
2019-11-25 19:02
+1
2019-11-26 01:00
ok boomer
2019-11-25 17:13
Good
2019-11-25 17:20
fortunately those guys know better what cs is about than its developers
2019-11-25 17:23
bad idea long term. More skins = more viewers especially from games like Fortnite.
2019-11-25 17:43
It's Valve's job to make it so that players only see their teammates' character skins. That way the models could be used without them affecting gameplay.
2019-11-25 17:59
Agreed, I don't mind aesthetic things like this but I've heard some models are just invisible in certain situations. If it only affected your team and you saw defaults for the other team I think that's a good compromise.
2019-11-25 18:31
why it should be part of gameplay? different model with different + and -
2019-11-25 18:42
I believe it's only short term, until valve is able to truly fix them Which could be long term hahaha
2019-11-25 19:09
#42
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Netherlands PasscaLl 
How it shoould be
2019-11-25 17:46
Not bad
2019-11-25 17:47
#48
HenkkyG | 
Czech Republic cortan 
What bout cache?
2019-11-25 18:08
#66
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Finland JHdash77 
What about it
2019-11-25 18:58
> however we’re banning the newly added player models, per the recommendation of the @CSPPAgg Gj.
2019-11-25 18:15
+1, some bugs to be fixed by the developers!
2019-11-25 18:25
#56
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China Rynaki 
I am also a disabled agent.
2019-11-25 18:34
congratulations valve you did it you crazy son of a bitch
2019-11-25 18:46
If the uniform the skin agent is using has the same color as the original models, why not??? Like Michael Syfers with the FBI models , IMO it´s OK But using 2 times mccoy, would be not
2019-11-25 18:55
Good
2019-11-25 18:57
#68
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Sweden Lindhan 
Dreamhack > all
2019-11-25 19:04
Amazing news
2019-11-25 19:13
Pay to win player models should not have been added to the game. You should at least have an option to turn them off.
2019-11-25 19:27
#86
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Brazil praxedes 
Pay to win it's a bit of a stretch for a cosmetic skin, don't you think? Even though there might be some visibility differences, I wouldn't call it "pay to win"
2019-11-25 20:22
#93
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Sri Lanka kvezee 
pay to win like in real life, why not
2019-11-25 21:11
Lol you make it seem like these are game changing. Theres one or two tiny spots where it makes a difference and half the time they're off angles in the open and you would show up on radar. Cs scene is full of drama queens, most models seem to be more visible to me
2019-11-26 02:56
Good decision fuck valve
2019-11-25 19:40
#79
shox | 
India iejesus 
Nice
2019-11-25 20:02
Nice, good decision, now pay the money you owe to hosts
2019-11-25 20:57
#97
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Slovakia EvErisT 
omg, why ? >:(
2019-11-25 21:46
BECAUSE ITS NOT FUCKING FORTNITE
2019-11-25 22:44
#107
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Europe sn00b_d0gg 
lulzzz
2019-11-26 01:48
#99
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Sweden axelious 
Fantastic news!
2019-11-25 22:44
good
2019-11-25 22:47
#103
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North America Coach_Classy 
2019-11-25 23:43
#108
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Norway Bigg1 
they did such a good job with th sg and galil/famas, why did valve screw up with those new models, at least let players disable for competetive.
2019-11-26 02:13
They honestly barely make a difference....
2019-11-26 02:57
#112
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Norway Bigg1 
have only seen a few clips, and dont play at a high level myself. but the clips i have seen seem like they camuflage alot.
2019-11-26 03:59
Dude your mind gets used to the standard models on different maps, a new colour takes longer to process and thus you react more slowly. Also the old models were perfectly fitted for every maps colour scheme, that's all out the window now
2019-11-26 06:37
#113
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Hong Kong TROIIDA 
Thank you, fuck this fortnite shit!
2019-11-26 04:55
u mean h1z1 or pubg u only mention fortnite becuz u play fortnite to much wow bad.
2019-11-26 08:28
#126
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Hong Kong TROIIDA 
they're all fortnite?
2019-12-01 09:56
i don't see why the outrage, you already had different agents in 1.6, the only difference is that you didn't have to pay to use them, imo they should make them free in a year or so to balance the game
2019-11-26 11:49
NICE. Screw the new agents really
2019-11-26 12:33
fair play
2019-11-26 14:06
In 1.6 the only model who could've given you any so called "advantage" was the leet crew skin which was considered skinnier, but it never gave you any kind of advantage in terms of blending in with the map. Imo the skins should be banned from the competitive side of cs. Even in nornal matches 5v5 face it. I guess this way they will be less valuable, but I don't think changing the maps will solve the problem. Ppl will still find places to exploit them and it will take long time for valve to optimize every sing spot that could be potentionally exploited with skins.
2019-11-26 15:26
i don't like those skins either. but i think maybe we can take "CL_MINMODELS 1" back to solve this problem. also give ppl some choices
2019-11-26 17:03
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