ECS Season 8 Finals preview

The four best teams in the world and four strong challengers will compete for $500,000 at the ECS Season 8 Finals from November 28 through December 1. Before the action starts, we bring you a breakdown of the teams and their chances in Arlington, Texas.

The ECS Season 8 Finals kick off a busy period for the top teams, as the event is followed by the ESL Pro League Season 10 Finals and the BLAST Global Finals, with some other smaller international tournaments also on the horizon. With teams having little time to practice and work on their mistakes after ECS, the event will be a good indicator of where the top four really stand as we approach the final stretch of the season.

Astralis are looking to cement their place at the top

Astralis, Evil Geniuses, fnatic and Liquid are the teams most people will be looking towards, but with the questionable form of some of the big dogs, upsets could be on the cards.

The recent update, which changed the prices of the SG 553, the FAMAS and the Galil, as well as the spraying inaccuracy of the two budget rifles, will add additional variances to the event. Teams who have spent the last week on the road, such as MIBR, Evil Geniuses and AVANGAR, will be a bit behind on the meta due to limited practice, while Vertigo-friendly teams will have to risk going into untested waters if they want to play it after yet another update to the map.

The groups look as follows:

ECS Season 8 will take place over four days, with the first two reserved for a GSL group stage (BO1 opening match, rest BO3), followed by a single-elimination BO3 playoff bracket. The teams were split into two groups using a team-selection method, with the two best North American squads ending up in Group A and the two best European ones in Group B.

Group A

Is it time to start worrying about Evil Geniuses? Back-to-back 5-6th placings at two events in China spell trouble, especially the result at the CS:GO Asia Championships, where the North American team were an overwhelming favorite for the title and ended up knocked out by MIBR and mousesports.

Their issues seem to be directly tied to the performances of their main star, Vincent "Brehze" Cayonte. The 21-year-old, touted as a top 5 player of the year, was in the red at all three events where Evil Geniuses have flopped since the break: DreamHack Masters Malmö, IEM Beijing, and CS:GO Asia Championships. The most recent event was especially poor, as his 0.91 rating was the worst he scored since DreamHack Masters Stockholm in 2018.

EG seem dependant on Brehze's performance

With so much traveling and all those back-to-back events, there hasn't been much time for Evil Geniuses to recover or reinvent themselves ahead of the ECS Season 8 Finals, and there won't be much more moving forward, as Peter "stanislaw" Jarguz's charges will be playing at the ESL Pro League Season 10 Finals within 48 hours of ECS concluding. That makes doing well at this event crucial for the team as they try to stop the negative spiral.

Despite the issues on the surface, Evil Geniuses have the pedigree to do well, with Ethan "Ethan" Arnold and Tsvetelin "CeRq" Dimitrov still performing admirably, but no team in their group will give them an easy win or gift them a much-needed playoff spot - they will have to show up in better form and earn it.

Playing significantly fewer events than Evil Geniuses but without having much to show for it is Liquid. The team's fall from the top following the player break is already well documented, but their real struggles — early exits DreamHack Masters Malmö and BLAST Pro Series Copenhagen — are fairly recent.

Liquid are hoping they can do well on the final stretch of 2019

Looking at the world rankings, Liquid are hanging on to their top-four spot largely thanks to the Major and ESL One New York playoff finishes, but we are now nearing two months since the North American squad had a respectable placing. Skipping IEM Beijing and StarSeries i-League Season 8 has also cost them in that regard, but perhaps that was a sacrifice they were comfortable doing in order to go for a strong finish to the year at the finals of ECS, Pro League and BLAST Pro Series.

Considering that none of the teams in their group currently look like worldbeaters and that Liquid are coming off an eventless period and a bootcamp, there should be no excuses for Nick "nitr0" Cannella's side not making it out of the groups here and contesting for the title on home soil. Making up some ground on Evil Geniuses and potentially taking over the banner of the best team in North America before the end of the year is still feasible, but it has to start this week in Texas.

A second place at BLAST Pro Series Copenhagen and wins over BIG and G2 at EPL, the latter being a consequence of Nicolas "Plopski" Gonzalez Zamora's inspired performance (88-46 K-D, 1.54 rating), gave NiP and their fans some reasons to be optimistic heading into ECS Season 8 Finals.

After a slow start with the Ninjas, Plopski has started to show why he was offered a spot in this team, but his improvement seems to have come at the expense of Fredrik "REZ" Sterner's impact. The recent role changes have affected the 21-year-old, who has been the worst-performing player in the squad.

Will f0rest be representing NiP in 2020?

The second driving force of the team remains Patrik "f0rest" Lindberg, who, when he turns up, often takes NiP over the line. How long will he be doing that, though, remains to be seen, as rumors have been circulating about him leaving to join Dignitas alongside other former NiP members. This piece of news could also destabilize the team ahead of ECS, where they will need everyone to be on point if they wish to overcome two of Liquid, Evil Geniuses and AVANGAR and get a playoff spot.

Another team that only had a short breather since competing at the CS:GO Asia Championships is AVANGAR. The Kazakh side peaked in September, finishing second at the StarLadder Major Berlin and winning BLAST Pro Series Moscow, after which they skyrocketed to third in the world rankings.

qikert was disappointed with their loss to MIBR at CAC

As expected, AVANGAR have slowly dropped down since, with placings such as 3rd-4th at DreamHack Open Rotterdam and 9th-12th at StarSeries i-League Season 8 showing that they aren't an elite squad that can hang with the best, at least not yet. At the CS:GO Asia Championship, they survived the first two days while using a stand-in, only to lose to MIBR in the quarter-finals in a fashion that Alexey "qikert" Golubev described as a "throw" and left him speechless.

Fixing those mistakes in a limited timeframe isn't an easy task for AVANGAR, but should they be able to do it, they do have enough teamplay and firepower in players like Dzhami "Jame" Ali, Timur "buster" Tulepov, and qikert to make this group quite complicated for the favorites, especially if they steal the win in the opening BO1 against Evil Geniuses.

Group B

Making the most out of the situation at hand — Liquid falling off and Evil Geniuses struggling to find consistency — is Astralis, who won the Major, grabbed a couple of high placings, and pulled in front with a dominant victory at IEM Beijing, where they lifted the trophy after a flawless run. While their position at the top of the rankings is not yet safe, they are just a couple of good showings away from finishing the year the way they started it - as the best team in the world.

For Astralis, the ECS Finals is the first in the series of three Big events, with their tournament schedule the same as Liquid's. The Danes have been known for scheduling appropriately and pacing themselves really well throughout individual events, so it will be interesting to see how they approach the overbooked month ahead of them.

Will Astralis get their first back-to-back tournament win since March?

Thankfully for the Danes, their group is more straightforward than Group A, which should see them advance even if they have a slow start. However, the playoffs are where it gets interesting, particularly if they meet Evil Geniuses, who have had their number in 2019.

While Astralis have been consistent (aside from one poor day at BLAST Copenhagen) and have had the best recent result of the top four teams at the event (IEM Beijing), it is important to remember that the Danes haven't been nearly as dominant this year as in 2018, and that losing to any of the big teams at ECS Season 8 Finals is certainly within the realms of possibility.

Champions at DreamHack Masters Malmö and runners-up at StarSeries i-League Season 8, fnatic surpassed expectations massively at their first two events with Maikil "Golden" Selim and Robin "flusha" Rönnquist on the roster. The Swedes also qualified for the ESL Pro League Season 10 Finals despite being forced to use a stand-in, outdoing Vitality with Rasmus "kreaz" Johansson filling the gaps.

fnatic has been impressive since the changes

Was all of this just a honeymoon period? If it wasn't, making it to the playoffs of ECS Season 8 Finals should be a piece of cake, even though Freddy "KRIMZ" Johansson's health issues may have limited fnatic's practice ahead of this event.

If the 25-year-old doesn't play up to his full potential right away, an in-form Ludvig "Brollan" Brolin and a reinvigorated Jesper "JW" Wecksell on the AWP should be a good enough base for fnatic to pick up victories, especially with flusha being there to clutch and chip in with crucial mid-round calls. On an individual level, Golden has been looking better than he did in his first stint with fnatic, providing quite a lot of impact for an in-game leader. Can fnatic stay a consistent top-four team or maybe even push further? ECS will give us some insight into that.

Tough times continue for MIBR, who are still lingering on the edge of the top 10 despite the roster change that saw the shunned star Vito "kNgV-" Giuseppe welcomed back into the Immortals Gaming Club fold. The 27-year-old started off his stint in MIBR as the main AWPer, but that has changed recently, as the priority on the Big Green has shifted back to Gabriel "FalleN" Toledo.

The Godfather of Brazilian CS is the primary sniper again

At the CS:GO Asia Championships, where MIBR finished 3rd-4th and beat Evil Geniuses, the role change resulted in FalleN being the best-rated player on the team, while kNgV- slipped to the bottom and recorded his second-worst event with MIBR. It is hard to determine if putting kNgV- on a more aggressive rifling duty (he recorded the highest number of opening duels for the team) actually helped the team perform better, or if their opponents, namely Evil Geniuses, have simply fallen off in form.

Whatever the case is, MIBR must at least handle Sharks and put up a solid fight against the two big names in the group if they want to convince anyone that this roster has the potential to be a tournament contender in the future. Two years have passed since FalleN last lifted a Big event trophy (ESL Pro League Finals S6), and there is a lot of reasons for management and fans to be concerned. The team can only hope that this is where things will finally take a turn for the better.

#38
Lineup Age Rating
ArgentinaIgnacio "meyern" Meyer 17 1.32
ArgentinaLuca "Luken" Nadotti 22 1.29
BrazilLeonardo "leo_druNky" Oliveira 20 1.13
BrazilJhonatan "jnt" Silva 25 1.11
BrazilRaphael "exit" Lacerda 23 1.02
Coach
Offline placings in the last three months
Placement Event
1-4th
ESL Pro League Season 10 Americas

Competing in Europe for periods of time and managing an upset over North at ESL Pro League Finals Season 8 last year gave Sharks some international exposure, but the team was unable to really break through and make their mark in the Old Continent. The lineup that came together in March 2018 peaked by placing 3rd-4th at the PLG Grand Slam at the end of 2018, but big changes were made only after an unsuccessful Minor run in Berlin.

Sharks parted ways with two players, including veteran Renato "nak" Nakano, moved the team to North America and finally added two foreigners: Ignacio "meyern" Meyer (featured in our "One for the future" series) and Luca "Luken" Nadotti. The promising Argentinian duo has adapted to the Brazilian-Portuguese communication swiftly, and, together with Jhonatan "jnt" Silva, Raphael "exit" Lacerda, and Leonardo "leo_druNky" Oliveira, has started bringing Sharks some big wins.

17-year-old meyern is a member of the "One for the future" club

In the process of qualifying for the ECS and EPL Finals, Sharks beat Liquid and Cloud9 online, and overcame opposition from Latin America. Sharks have been fairly inactive since then, which is reflected in their current ranking, but the ECS Season 8 Finals will be a good test for the individually sharp players to show their potential on LAN in a group that could not get much harder.

Brazil Leonardo 'leo_druNky' Oliveira
Leonardo 'leo_druNky' Oliveira
Age:
20
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.03
Maps played:
367
KPR:
0.71
DPR:
0.69
APR:
0.14
United States Nick 'nitr0' Cannella
Nick 'nitr0' Cannella
Age:
24
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.02
Maps played:
1225
KPR:
0.69
DPR:
0.66
APR:
0.14
Sweden Jesper 'JW' Wecksell
Jesper 'JW' Wecksell
Age:
24
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.06
Maps played:
1631
KPR:
0.74
DPR:
0.68
APR:
0.14
Sweden Nicolas 'Plopski' Gonzalez Zamora
Nicolas 'Plopski' Gonzalez Zamora
Age:
17
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.06
Maps played:
568
KPR:
0.73
DPR:
0.66
APR:
0.15
Russia Dzhami 'Jame' Ali
Dzhami 'Jame' Ali
Age:
21
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.14
Maps played:
703
KPR:
0.73
DPR:
0.56
APR:
0.09
Argentina Ignacio 'meyern' Meyer
Ignacio 'meyern' Meyer
Age:
17
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.14
Maps played:
234
KPR:
0.78
DPR:
0.66
APR:
0.12
Brazil Raphael 'exit' Lacerda
Raphael 'exit' Lacerda
Age:
23
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.09
Maps played:
415
KPR:
0.73
DPR:
0.63
APR:
0.14
Bulgaria Tsvetelin 'CeRq' Dimitrov
Tsvetelin 'CeRq' Dimitrov
Age:
20
Rating 1.0:
1.14
Maps played:
880
KPR:
0.76
DPR:
0.62
APR:
0.10
Sweden Patrik 'f0rest' Lindberg
Patrik 'f0rest' Lindberg
Age:
31
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.12
Maps played:
1633
KPR:
0.77
DPR:
0.65
APR:
0.12
Sweden Ludvig 'Brollan' Brolin
Ludvig 'Brollan' Brolin
Age:
17
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.07
Maps played:
605
KPR:
0.73
DPR:
0.67
APR:
0.13
Brazil Jhonatan 'jnt' Silva
Jhonatan 'jnt' Silva
Age:
25
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.98
Maps played:
384
KPR:
0.65
DPR:
0.64
APR:
0.11
Sweden Maikil 'Golden' Selim
Maikil 'Golden' Selim
Age:
25
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.93
Maps played:
582
KPR:
0.63
DPR:
0.69
APR:
0.14
Kazakhstan Timur 'buster' Tulepov
Timur 'buster' Tulepov
Age:
19
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.05
Maps played:
831
KPR:
0.70
DPR:
0.62
APR:
0.12
Brazil Gabriel 'FalleN' Toledo
Gabriel 'FalleN' Toledo
Age:
28
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.09
Maps played:
1176
KPR:
0.71
DPR:
0.60
APR:
0.11
Brazil Vito 'kNgV-' Giuseppe
Vito 'kNgV-' Giuseppe
Age:
27
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.15
Maps played:
553
KPR:
0.78
DPR:
0.64
APR:
0.10
Sweden Freddy 'KRIMZ' Johansson
Freddy 'KRIMZ' Johansson
Age:
25
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.06
Maps played:
1402
KPR:
0.71
DPR:
0.63
APR:
0.15
Brazil Renato 'nak' Nakano
Renato 'nak' Nakano
Age:
32
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.93
Maps played:
414
KPR:
0.62
DPR:
0.67
APR:
0.15
Argentina Luca 'Luken' Nadotti
Luca 'Luken' Nadotti
Age:
22
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.15
Maps played:
171
KPR:
0.77
DPR:
0.64
APR:
0.13
Sweden Robin 'flusha' Rönnquist
Robin 'flusha' Rönnquist
Age:
26
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.07
Maps played:
1536
KPR:
0.72
DPR:
0.65
APR:
0.18
United States Ethan 'Ethan' Arnold
Ethan 'Ethan' Arnold
Age:
19
Rating 1.0:
1.08
Maps played:
799
KPR:
0.74
DPR:
0.67
APR:
0.15
United States Vincent 'Brehze' Cayonte
Vincent 'Brehze' Cayonte
Age:
21
Rating 1.0:
1.12
Maps played:
852
KPR:
0.77
DPR:
0.67
APR:
0.12
Sweden Rasmus 'kreaz' Johansson
Rasmus 'kreaz' Johansson
Age:
21
Rating 1.0:
1.04
Maps played:
260
KPR:
0.70
DPR:
0.65
APR:
0.14
Kazakhstan Alexey 'qikert' Golubev
Alexey 'qikert' Golubev
Age:
20
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.09
Maps played:
783
KPR:
0.73
DPR:
0.65
APR:
0.13
Canada Peter 'stanislaw' Jarguz
Peter 'stanislaw' Jarguz
Age:
25
Rating 1.0:
0.98
Maps played:
1029
KPR:
0.66
DPR:
0.66
APR:
0.14
Sweden Fredrik 'REZ' Sterner
Fredrik 'REZ' Sterner
Age:
21
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.03
Maps played:
897
KPR:
0.70
DPR:
0.66
APR:
0.14
#2
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Australia |bruh| 
what a weird ass event, as in teams attending
2019-11-27 12:50
That’s because the teams qualify through online matches
2019-11-27 12:53
#11
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Australia |bruh| 
yeah, weird format, online and at bad times.
2019-11-27 12:54
For me it was pretty good time like 8pm cet and the format is pretty good with bo3 all the way
2019-11-27 12:59
So many bot
2019-11-27 16:35
#79
f0rest | 
China hzxhl16 
He just wants to trigger you.
2019-11-27 17:31
Yo who else is gonna be there, I'm super excited!!
2019-11-27 17:38
#83
f0rest | 
China hzxhl16 
I was planning to but my friend is coming NY to see me so I guess I have to stay in New York and Long Island for the Thanksgiving. A little bit sad indeed. Have a good Thanksgiving.
2019-11-27 18:03
Ahh damn that sucks, but you also have a good Thanksgiving
2019-11-27 22:00
True but sharks did best liquid 2-0 so can't say anything for sure
2019-11-27 12:54
#13
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Australia |bruh| 
i recall that yeah. but still the 'darkhorses' for this event are just sorta eh? will probs just be eg/liquid vs astralis
2019-11-27 12:55
#16
FalleN | 
Brazil Tablari 
and mibr
2019-11-27 12:58
#19
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Australia |bruh| 
i mean only if they somehow top fnatic?
2019-11-27 13:01
#22
FalleN | 
Brazil Tablari 
I believe they can beat anyone, even Astralis. You might say I'm delusional but I've been stick with this team for a long time and I know what are they capable of, I mean, they already upset a lot of teams on their path, it would be just another one.
2019-11-27 13:03
#57
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Argentina lucas_7_94 
agreed manito Argentina Brazil 🤝 Sharks
2019-11-27 16:00
Man, this MIBR lineup is really lacking strong firepower. It's just a weird team. They could prove me wrong and start doing well, but I almost feel like their best bet is to cut Taco, Lucas and KNG and try to find some up and coming talent they can develop through experience. To be fair this is the same issue NA teams have had, where there's constantly been a lot of old blood near the top instead of giving potential talents more of a shot. That's improved lately, at least, but MiBR are all old guard now.
2019-11-27 16:07
#87
FalleN | 
Brazil Tablari 
I agree with you, never agreed with the addition of kNg and Lucas, they're not as good as they think, misses too many shoots. But I like TACO, imo he's important to the team. Still, I believe they can do something, they are really unpredictable.
2019-11-27 21:17
#95
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Asia Ever44 
I like this team. But I just expect more from Kng and Lucas. They need to step up.
2019-11-28 02:22
I like TACO on a very human level, he's pretty clearly one of the "good guys" in the scene. He has his moments, I like that he will do whatever his team needs. I'm not really hating on any of the players, I guess. I just very much think your scene has proven the talent pool is pretty deep, so taking some risks could pan out.
2019-11-28 03:35
#98
FalleN | 
Brazil Tablari 
Maybe but after all these lineup changes they had, commiting the risk to add a young talent could make them feel worn out if not going well which is the most probably possibility.
2019-11-28 05:18
Mibr is not at the level of these teams atm so no
2019-11-27 13:11
#30
FalleN | 
Brazil Tablari 
We just beat the top2 team in the world with a big 2-0. I'm not saying we are the best and not the underdog on this tournament, just saying we could do something.
2019-11-27 13:12
EG are inconsistent and even faze beat them twice in a same tournament and both map victories were not one sided so that's as eg lost way too many advantages so that's why I'm not picking mibr else they did good at CAC
2019-11-27 13:23
#34
FalleN | 
Brazil Tablari 
I understand what you're saying but I still believe they can do something, they're unpredictable.
2019-11-27 13:26
Yea they're unpredictable
2019-11-27 13:52
#42
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France LeDiplomate 
OMEGALUL
2019-11-27 14:29
The likes of winning this tournament is for the top 4 teams and mainly astralis and fnatic, not putting liquid here coz they sucked the later half of 2019 and EG are inconsistent as hell so my pick is between astralis and fnatic
2019-11-27 13:10
#28
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Australia |bruh| 
i want fnatic too win. very fun team see play.
2019-11-27 13:12
Also they have krimz back so it'll very interesting
2019-11-27 13:52
Aug Nerf stucked Liquid last 6 months.
2019-11-27 15:00
They were the 2nd best team before the Aug meta (but they beat Astralis almost defining it). I think it's more the SG meta really kicking in, and that as individuals they've just fallen off some. Time will tell if that'll come back I guess.
2019-11-27 16:10
This struck to many teams like ence,furia
2019-11-27 16:44
Yep! Totally agree! They will reach the end after SG nerf next year...
2019-11-28 17:44
Holy shit I just saw meyern's rating is 1.32 wtf, never saw any highlights of him
2019-11-27 13:54
#58
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United States porcupine2020 
in online, anything can happen, but offline, liquid hasn't dropped a bo3/5 to a non top 5 team(excluding GhG at DH Malmo) since I can't remember when
2019-11-27 16:06
Probably won’t happen again
2019-11-27 16:35
Yes probably it won't happen but we can't know for sure and also Meyern rating is 1.32 how ?!?!?!?!
2019-11-27 16:46
#24
NAF | 
India FosFate 
Only Sharks is a weird team here tbh. Top 4 + NiP is common. MiBR and Avangar are weird but not too big of a deal. Sharks is only "unknown" here
2019-11-27 13:03
#44
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France LeDiplomate 
Sharks qualified by beating Liquid, so not "weird" to see them here.
2019-11-27 14:30
Eh, but beating them online is a huge asterisk. They're very inconsistent online.
2019-11-27 16:13
It is weird
2019-11-27 16:35
#80
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France LeDiplomate 
It is not weird, in the sense that they deserve to be there, as they beat a top 3 team in the world to qualify.
2019-11-27 17:32
#84
NAF | 
India FosFate 
Yes they deserved, but that doesn't mean it won't feel weird to see them A Tournament with a qualifier, and 8 final teams, with 4 Tier 1 teams, and then Sharks. It just feels weird
2019-11-27 20:24
#101
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France LeDiplomate 
I get your point but for me an upset by a relatively "unknown" team if you don't really follow the scene doesn't really feel weird. I think it is a good thing to be able to see new teams at t1 events because it means the scene is competitive and healthy.
2019-11-28 14:45
#103
NAF | 
India FosFate 
You are correct there. :) I do follow the scene but I rarely get time to watch matches, especially Online ones, so yeah... I will get to see them play for the first time in this event.
2019-11-28 15:28
#3
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Netherlands PasscaLl 
Sick
2019-11-27 12:49
#4
Subroza | 
Morocco Op1xoN 
Good luck!
2019-11-27 12:50
#5
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Poland friendlySeb 
Will be interesting.
2019-11-27 12:50
#6
NAF | 
India FosFate 
Liquid vs. Astralis matchup in this. Let's gooo
2019-11-27 12:51
Ez for astralis I think
2019-11-27 12:54
#25
NAF | 
India FosFate 
Looks like that on paper, with recent forms of both team. Liquid took a month break and bootcamp'd, so let's see if they can pull something out of their hats
2019-11-27 13:04
Liquid sucked the later half of 2019 and astralis are back on their dominant form so my pick is between astralis fnatic but I think astralis will win this
2019-11-27 13:12
#59
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United States porcupine2020 
dont think fnatic will make finals, but they do have a solid chance
2019-11-27 16:06
Let's see what happens
2019-11-27 16:45
go mibr
2019-11-27 12:52
ez for Astralis /quote me later
2019-11-27 12:53
#17
FalleN | 
Brazil Tablari 
ez for MIBR /quote me later
2019-11-27 12:59
#45
 | 
France LeDiplomate 
I will quote you when this washed up team will be sent home by Sharks.
2019-11-27 14:31
#54
FalleN | 
Brazil Tablari 
At least my team isn't carried by one average player lul
2019-11-27 15:42
#78
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France LeDiplomate 
"One average player" OMEGALUL \closed
2019-11-27 17:30
#88
FalleN | 
Brazil Tablari 
Mad cuz Zywho bait 4 players kkkkkkkk
2019-11-27 21:19
What's up?
2019-11-30 19:57
ez4godfather
2019-11-27 12:56
#18
FalleN | 
Brazil Tablari 
LEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEETS FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO MIBRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
2019-11-27 13:00
Sweden>brazil
2019-11-27 13:02
+1
2019-11-27 13:16
#89
FalleN | 
Brazil Tablari 
-1
2019-11-27 21:19
Let’s go
2019-11-27 13:02
ez4jamesus
2019-11-27 13:03
A: Liquid, NiP B: Astralis, mibr
2019-11-27 13:25
#46
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France LeDiplomate 
0/8
2019-11-27 14:31
#47
NAF | 
Denmark Bekkr 
A: Liquid, NIP B: Astralis, Fnatic
2019-11-27 14:37
+1
2019-11-27 15:24
#90
FalleN | 
Brazil Tablari 
-1
2019-11-27 21:20
#35
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Netherlands itsm 
Meyern will pop some heads
2019-11-27 13:29
Yuuuup
2019-11-27 13:29
So ez for SA
2019-11-27 13:30
EZ for MEYERN 1.32 rating
2019-11-27 14:16
#43
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Norway TheMushrix 
SG 552?????
2019-11-27 14:29
Why can be here to attend the game
2019-11-27 14:44
LULQUID xaxa . Lucky Sharks
2019-11-27 15:02
#51
AdreN | 
Kazakhstan 96kg 
gl avangar
2019-11-27 15:03
Liquid v Astralis 3-1 or 3-2
2019-11-27 15:06
#55
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Ukraine ksay 
fnatic out in the groups :)
2019-11-27 15:54
sg552
2019-11-27 15:57
#62
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Pakistan LoOuU2 
I hope to see Astralis vs MIBR in the finals with resurgence of the Brazilian side
2019-11-27 16:12
#65
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Pakistan XtraticX 
Boring final
2019-11-27 16:19
#67
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Pakistan LoOuU2 
Any final with Astralis is boring since they make it fast and dominating
2019-11-27 16:33
#86
NAF | 
India FosFate 
ESL One New York lol. It's not exciting because finals with Astralis are usually Astralis vs. Tier 2
2019-11-27 20:27
#91
FalleN | 
Brazil Tablari 
Not true stop crying.
2019-11-27 21:20
#99
NAF | 
India FosFate 
All finals that Astralis played this year have been against, at that time, Tier 2 teams. (Except maybe IEM Beijing-Haidian) It's a fact. Your BR brain can't understand.
2019-11-28 07:16
Astralis is tired to win against Chokquid, EG, Fnatic... Stop crying, they're the best ever, Liquid didn't even come closer to their level.
2019-11-28 12:41
#102
NAF | 
India FosFate 
I never denied that they are the best team. They are better than Liquid, and far better than EG. I said that they didn't play a single final against Tier 1, this year. Dumb BR brain
2019-11-28 15:25
Which is not true and even if it was true, would mean nothing, if they didn't play a final against a tier 1 team is cuz this "tier 1" team didn't reach the finals, meaning they're worse than Astralis.
2019-11-28 15:40
#106
NAF | 
India FosFate 
Oh my god, how stupid are you? The thread isn't even about Astralis being good. It's about their finals being boring, because they're too good for other finalist in the tournaments they win. Pls don't embarrass yourself more
2019-11-29 13:45
First, this thread isn't about how finals are boring, it's the ECS preview. Second, you said Astralis always have a easy matchup, that's why their finals are always boring, implying if they had a final against a t1 team (your fav team) it would be harder, which isn't true. Is it really hard for a Indian to understand ? Omg...
2019-11-29 14:37
#108
NAF | 
India FosFate 
Clown BR brain lmao. My comment was under #67, which says "Any finals with Astralis is boring cause they make it fast" To which I said they had finals against T2 teams which is true (Ence, Avangar, 100T). Their finals against EG (T1 team) which they lost was interesting
2019-11-30 16:59
Do Indians know how a disscussion works ? lmao look at this response
2019-11-30 17:04
#97
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Pakistan XtraticX 
Astralis plays so professional ... For win, not for entertain us ... That's why they are so boring
2019-11-28 05:17
#64
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Pakistan XtraticX 
Fnatic would
2019-11-27 16:13
Go sharks <3
2019-11-27 16:20
#71
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United States jmarcelo 
any hltv alphas going to the event?
2019-11-27 16:40
ez for astralis actually
2019-11-27 16:50
#76
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Brazil parrud0www 
Again... 2 USA teams in same group and 2 BR teams in same group. It isn't good for spectators!
2019-11-27 16:54
#77
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Spain Chonita 
"Plopski has started to show why he was offered a spot in this team, but his improvement seems to have come at the expense of Fredrik "REZ" Sterner's impact. The recent role changes have affected the 21-year-old" wtf if im not wrong, plopski started in nip in july but rez have been underperforming for 1 and a half year now. I really hope he will come back soon becouse we need him in nip, but i dont think we shoud blame other players for his underperformance.
2019-11-27 17:01
#92
f0rest | 
China ZerOck 
+1
2019-11-27 21:32
#82
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Croatia DNM_ii 
What the hell is that seeding lmao
2019-11-27 17:44
#85
NAF | 
India FosFate 
Why? What's wrong?
2019-11-27 20:25
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