Twistzz: "Astralis is really great at making me feel useless, I get isolated so often"

Russel "Twistzz" Van Dulken gave us an interview following Liquid's survival in their elimination series against FaZe, speaking on topics such as his individual form as of late and his personal view on the Astralis matchup.

The Canadian star commented on the series against FaZe, who made the affair very close despite slow starts on Mirage and Nuke, with Twistzz noting that Liquid were surprised by how differently Nikola "NiKo" Kovač & co. played on the former map in particular.

Twistzz explained why his numbers have been down lately

He also went on to defend his underwhelming statistics in Bahrain and in Odense, and we asked him about the upcoming consolidation final against NiP, as well as a potential rematch with Astralis should the North American team beat the Swedes.

Going back to yesterday's series against Astralis - again close but no cigar. After the match they were talking about how it was obvious you approached Nuke differently than usual, can you talk about that from your perspective?

Yeah, I think all of our matches on Nuke against them were helping us find ourselves and our footing on the map. We've been trying to play it differently, it's a map we want to be good at, but I think especially next year it's going to be hard to get practice on it because not many NA teams practice Nuke.

Mirage against FaZe today ended up being a bit too close for comfort after that strong start from you, what happened towards the end of the first half and the rest of the map?

We had watched how they played, but they didn't really play how we expected. They changed things up. There were some rounds where coldzera was upper B even though he's the A player and things were just different, they weren't playing like we expected them to.

What about on Nuke, where a good start ended up with a really close first half again?

Our CT side got a little close, I don't think we could adapt to what they were doing. The solution for me was that we needed to aggress somewhere because we are getting used to not rotating, not biting on things, so I think we just need to push somewhere, and we weren't really doing that.

As the year is coming to a close it seems like you're running out of steam, you've had some unremarkable tournaments back at EPL and here so far until this last map, what do you think that's down to?

I think one thing people don't really notice is that my role has been changing. I feel like I've been developing into a great support player over time, but, as I said in my Tweet yesterday, I haven't been finding the opportunities I usually get. I feel like some of the situations I'm in are pretty impossible. Say I'm in halls on Inferno, we throw pit smokes, and I'm left in like a 1v4, just unwinnable things. So I feel like some of my starts have been pretty unlucky, too, I get killed by someone full blind, spammed through a smoke... And that's something that analysts don't really catch on, that the player may not just be having a bad game, he just hasn't had the chance to actually get into the game. Also, Astralis is really great at making me feel useless, I feel like I just get isolated so often versus them, and it's more that we need to change up our playstyle a little bit towards them.

NiP surprised FaZe at the start of the tournament, for sure, and you're going up against them tomorrow in the consolidation final. How much resistance do you expect from them?

We're usually pretty good. Obviously, there are still rumors around f0rest leaving and, honestly, they're probably just trying to go out with a bang. It's kind of like we were last year when we knew changes were being made, trying to have a great run, upset some teams, do some things that you're not expecting. They picked Vertigo on FaZe, that's a gimmick pick, and I bet they wouldn't do that if they were still an actual team. I think it's going to be a clean game.

Well, if that is the case, what about if you go up against Astralis again? Have you learned enough from that first series to finally take them?

dupreeh said it in his interview, our approach to both maps versus them is very different. It's not like we're catering to just countering Astralis, but if you play to counter Astralis it should also work against every other team because you're trying to counter the best team in the world. We're going to change some things up, both teams are obviously going to watch demos, pretty sure we all know what the maps are going to be already...

device was talking about you guys probably picking Vertigo this time after Inferno didn't pan out...

It could always be an option. I like how gla1ve said in his interview "Yeah, I think they're going to pick Mirage." Such a troll, man.

Canada Russel 'Twistzz' Van Dulken
Russel 'Twistzz' Van Dulken
Age:
20
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.13
Maps played:
956
KPR:
0.75
DPR:
0.62
APR:
0.12
Bosnia and Herzegovina Nikola 'NiKo' Kovač
Nikola 'NiKo' Kovač
Age:
22
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.16
Maps played:
1158
KPR:
0.80
DPR:
0.67
APR:
0.13
astralis rekt them
2019-12-13 22:10
#11
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Denmark ntnoscene 
ez4Astralis
2019-12-13 22:18
Why you #1
2019-12-13 22:45
why not
2019-12-13 23:19
You got me
2019-12-14 09:06
mad faze ????
2019-12-14 00:05
#56
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United States @FyreCS 
Expected by Crowdstralis
2019-12-14 00:57
liquid is so mentally weak, esp twist. why ever would u publicly concede and say they make you feel useless haha wtf they own your head
2019-12-14 04:55
#67
NAF | 
India FosFate 
+1
2019-12-14 05:40
god
2019-12-13 22:11
#3
loWel | 
Norway Magnusram 
Good
2019-12-13 22:12
#4
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Spain elskio 
ok
2019-12-13 22:12
#5
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Germany ToiletShitter 
Astralis is your daddy
2019-12-13 22:12
#6
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Nigeria FrothaJuan 
You’re always isolated :) Bait less :)
2019-12-13 22:12
Nice edit
2019-12-13 22:44
WADU
2019-12-13 22:13
#8
Spain nax0s 
Twistzz was beast in 2018 , now he is mediocre
2019-12-13 22:14
#37
ropz | 
Brazil wololo10 
Cause SG is the new meta and he is AK only
2019-12-13 23:15
Dupreeh is ak only and he's nuts
2019-12-14 00:05
#55
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United States Vollizie 
Funny enough, he's most likely ending higher on the list than 2018.
2019-12-14 00:52
#9
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Thailand hahahoha 
Astralis is a good team confirmed. they do the same thing with s1mple
2019-12-13 22:14
#13
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India Narendra_modi 
Very true, they usually avoid s1mple so well he is always stuck in a save position against them
2019-12-13 22:19
brooo u cant show weakness, this interview will only make AST28LYS even more favourite in the next matches vs liquid, cuz they will know how to tilt u and make u "feel useless"
2019-12-13 22:17
perfect for bet
2019-12-13 22:55
flag checks out nt m16r
2019-12-14 00:45
#12
s1mple | 
Canada roylin 
edgy
2019-12-13 22:19
#14
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Qatar PrisMcsgo 
you are always useless
2019-12-13 22:22
why are you a cunt?
2019-12-14 04:13
#14
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Qatar PrisMcsgo 
kkkk
2019-12-13 22:22
here the problem, thinking like that will make it even worst coming into the games vs astralis.. just hire a esports psychologist or something to get rid of the fears :)
2019-12-13 22:22
support player
2019-12-13 22:23
"but if you play to counter Astralis, it should also work against every other team" That's not, how it works..
2019-12-13 22:24
Let's just say u ar replaceable
2019-12-13 22:24
#60
OCEAN | 
United States KKonian 
There is nobody in NA that can replace twistzz and be as good when hes at his peak
2019-12-14 01:36
#68
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Russia nobody_cars 
Ocean can mens
2019-12-14 07:02
+1
2019-12-14 07:18
#72
OCEAN | 
United States KKonian 
Ocean is being saved for new super team
2019-12-14 08:03
#20
f0rest | 
China hzxhl16 
f0rest dont leave plz
2019-12-13 22:26
#21
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Luxembourg Hargreaves 
They want him to be useless as a human being. Winning is just secondary.
2019-12-13 22:29
Stop bullying twistzz!
2019-12-13 22:34
Why U bully me?
2019-12-14 00:42
#23
shrek | 
New Zealand is_love 
FeelsBadMan
2019-12-13 22:40
#24
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Russia LeGoBoys 
Didn’t think I see twistz giving such respect. Now he has a way to improve and become a threat to everyone
2019-12-13 22:42
thing is, you are
2019-12-13 22:44
#26
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Bulgaria goshyy 
Lol and then some NA idiots still think that NA is better than Europe, Astralis is making your Liquid players feel useless and isolated mens))
2019-12-13 22:44
#29
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Nigeria FrothaJuan 
Bulgaria
2019-12-13 22:52
Ur best na team needed bulgarian awper to get to #3 spot...
2019-12-14 01:20
#59
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Nigeria FrothaJuan 
“Needed”
2019-12-14 01:23
Do u wanna say that there is a mistake in that word or something else?
2019-12-14 02:05
#63
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Nigeria FrothaJuan 
Whatever, think one player make a country good at CS
2019-12-14 02:07
#84
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Bulgaria goshyy 
Yes because if it wasn't for CeRq EG would have never ever reached that top 3 mark, they were even top 1 at one point lmao, getting carried by an European, CeRq is easily the best AWPer in NA even tho he is not even from NA ahahahha
2019-12-14 11:10
#86
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Nigeria FrothaJuan 
Skadoodle 6 trophies Cerq 4 trophies Skadoodle 1major Cerq 0 major
2019-12-14 11:20
#87
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Bulgaria goshyy 
Skadoodle Inactive CeRq Active Skadoodle 26 Years Old CeRq 20 Years Old CeRq is 6 years younger and already has nearly as much trophies as Skadoodle. Skadoodle Avg Rating in C9 : 1.05 CeRq Avg Rating in EG : 1.14 But nt NA brain.
2019-12-14 11:22
#88
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Nigeria FrothaJuan 
Form a full Bulgarian team and win a major before you talk :)
2019-12-14 11:24
#89
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Bulgaria goshyy 
Ahahahha NA talking because he won a fluke major NA : 1 Major EU : 11 Majors ;)
2019-12-14 11:32
#90
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Nigeria FrothaJuan 
Bulgarian players on those teams??? With this logic I can claim Other countries majors as well since of Norwegian and French, British, Swedish
2019-12-14 11:34
#91
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Bulgaria goshyy 
No because we don't have as much players as NA? America has like 300 million more people than Bulgaria and we still have a Bulgarian carrying your shitty ass teams ahaha
2019-12-14 11:35
#93
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Nigeria FrothaJuan 
Braindead Slav
2019-12-14 11:36
#94
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Bulgaria goshyy 
Braindead fat man
2019-12-14 11:36
#92
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Bulgaria goshyy 
You can't claim shit lmaoo NA only 1 major EU 11 majors accept it NA is shit :D
2019-12-14 11:36
What did Cerq achieve before moving to NA?
2019-12-14 08:22
#85
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Bulgaria goshyy 
That doesn't matter, we are talking about how CeRq literally made EG a solid top 3 team, remove CeRq and replace him with some shitty ''Great American AWPer'' and lets see the results, EG will fall down to not even top 10.
2019-12-14 11:11
Optic Gaming lineup, Cloud9, Liquid were all top 3 without an EU awper The guy I replied to clearly implied that NA can't be top 3 by itself?
2019-12-15 17:42
#102
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Bulgaria goshyy 
Are they top 3 now? NOPE.
2019-12-15 18:11
Are you implying that Liquid is not top 3
2019-12-16 19:03
#104
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Bulgaria goshyy 
Ahahaha you just waited until they got to top 3, pathetic
2019-12-16 19:29
#83
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Bulgaria goshyy 
+1 so true ahahha
2019-12-14 11:09
#95
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Nigeria FrothaJuan 
Delete this comment chain
2019-12-14 11:39
#30
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United Kingdom bruhmusmummus 
why u ego feed? never compliment ur opponent, makes ur morale worse and theirs better
2019-12-13 22:54
#39
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Estonia JackReacher 
maybe he is just being humble?
2019-12-13 23:31
#49
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Europe Schizophrenx 
>his flag >humble
2019-12-14 00:26
its hard to not compliment astralis after losing 6 games in a row to them.
2019-12-14 01:21
#75
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Poland rude_wredne 
what kind of dumbass attitude is that? "never compliment your opponent" lmao
2019-12-14 08:40
#32
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United States RULE34TRACER 
you’re not alone twistzz! any other teams/players feel the sane way..
2019-12-13 22:55
#33
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United Kingdom KainZ 
Its interviews like this that emphasise how fucking incredible and unreachable astralis really are when they are on form.
2019-12-13 23:01
Nice English
2019-12-13 23:03
great interview! twistzz form will come back and when it does liquid will be very scary. its obvious when watching them play astralis that they purposely try to shut twistzz down the most since hes the best aimer in the game and aim is the one thing liquid is better than astralis at.
2019-12-13 23:04
#36
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United States jay_320 
What is this mutual love between Liquid and Astralis? Between Device, Dupreeh, NAF and Twistzz now we've learned they see each other after finals (or something to that effect), think they are the hardest teams to play against, like on and on. I get that players meet each other and get along but I'm starting to feel some man love between them. Twistzz wants in on the action it seems like.
2019-12-13 23:07
#40
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Guatemala Nicaraqua 
hes a weeb what u expect
2019-12-13 23:34
It is not unheard of the elite sportspeople feel connected and have great respect for each other. It seems logical to me that you will respect others on your own level, you will be in the best position to judge their strengths, weaknesses and also to know what effort that goes into being on that level. I know for example it is the same thing with elite racing drivers, like for example Vettel was one of the first to congratulate Hamilton on winning this years championship - this despite them clearly also being close competitors for more than a decade.
2019-12-13 23:50
#43
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United States jay_320 
Yeah I know I'm half-teasing. I just didn't know they knew each other as well as they've implied in the last couple interviews. I actually think it's great. I'd imagine Liquid sees players they can look up to and for Astralis it's a little like seeing past versions of themselves. It's probably a nice group friendship. I'm not even trolling it probably is.
2019-12-13 23:51
Agreed. I like the thought of friendly competition much more than some BS silliness. I can imagine that the mentality of the Liquid and Astralis players is not that different, several Danes have been playing for US teams and for sure most of the big teams do train with each other when the option is there.
2019-12-14 00:08
#47
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United States jay_320 
Oh yeah absolutely. When you think about it for the Astralis guys TL is the only team that's really reached their level of greatness even if just for that run in the summer. Although I'll have faith til they disband they'll go on another one. Silly NA fan I know. When you are a trailblazer like that - one for the entire scene and one for a continent no one thought would ever be good there's got to be a pretty big level of mutual respect. On some level core Astralis in particular can probably relate to TL better then anyone else. Anyway. As much as they drive me crazy as a fan I can't help but be awed by Astralis's consistency myself.
2019-12-14 00:14
#50
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Europe Schizophrenx 
In the end, e-sports community is one big family including fans. Make love not warcraft.
2019-12-14 00:29
iBP
2019-12-14 02:00
thats what i get in my mind. When Astralis come to this, they are best team to shutdown superstars like s1mple etc. Like i said this to my friend atleast last 2 years. Not 2 years but, like they are incredible how a good player or superstar looks so useless finally i agree with Twistzz
2019-12-13 23:49
Or because astralis have 5 superstars who work together?
2019-12-14 09:01
#48
gla1ve | 
Denmark flapdur 
He´s right about the last comment: "I like how gla1ve said in his interview "Yeah, I think they're going to pick Mirage." Such a troll, man." I think it´s getting a bit out of hand, with Glaives mind games. It came back to hit him like a boomerang, when he was arrogantly waving at Mousesports. I agree (# 43 and 46) that top competitors/rivals can have friendship or at least great respect, like Nadal and Federer
2019-12-14 00:18
#51
chrisJ | 
Denmark cOcun9 
Yea add that to one of many first world problems
2019-12-14 00:32
gla1ve 180 iq, 90 for each eye
2019-12-14 00:47
no major no era lul
2019-12-14 04:53
#70
zonic | 
Denmark meganice 
Respect for giving respect. Honest and nice interview.
2019-12-14 07:19
If you playing against Astralis and they isolate you that mean you're good, very very good. Just see how they play against S1mple. He was rendered almost useless almost everytime Navi meet Astralis. So in a way isolating Twistzz is Astralis way to say "You're a superstar. So we don't wanna have anything to do with you."
2019-12-14 07:42
actually s1mple had amazingly good stats against astralis in 2018/2019. I think he has best stats against astralis among all pro players.
2019-12-15 12:03
It's not about the stats. It's about how they feel while playing. You can drop 30k but still feel useless and isolated. And from there the star players (S1mple, Twistzz, etc) emotion will eventually get the best of them and either they rage or depleted. hence they start making small mistake. And we all know, if you showed Ast even a single mistake, you or your team is done.
2019-12-15 17:25
true
2019-12-17 12:42
Can someone link the gla1ve interview he refers to in the end?
2019-12-14 08:30
hltv.org/news/28621/gla1ve-on-mousesport.. Gla1ve talks about that in the last paragraph of the interview.
2019-12-14 09:02
Thanks mate
2019-12-14 11:01
When i watch astralis vs fnatic on inferno damn they almost have a perfect read every time especially on the rotation..
2019-12-14 09:07
Too much soy in his diet?
2019-12-14 09:30
Just kick the balls of nitro and stew and you'll be fine.
2019-12-14 10:05
#96
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Nigeria FrothaJuan 
Elige and Nitr0 are fuck buddies sry
2019-12-14 11:39
#97
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India ROFLaala 
Isn't coldzera a b player?
2019-12-15 00:07
You're useless player baiter. Playing support all the time just to bait and trade like s1mple. Give bot2k support role/2nd entry and take entry role yourself.
2019-12-15 17:45
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