Valve to replace direct invitations with ranking system for Fall Major

In an email sent to the main tournament organizers, Valve has expressed its plans to replace the current Major invitation format with a ranking system, which will utilize two extra tournaments leading up to the Fall Major.

The system explained by Valve in the email revolves around a combination of points earned from the spring Major — ESL One Rio, taking place in May — and from two other events leading up to the second Major of the year (November 2-15).

The three events will determine a ranking, according to which the top-eight teams will be invited to the Fall Major as Legends and the next eight as Challengers, with the remaining eight teams coming from the already existing Minor system in the four main regions.

The Challengers and Legends system will change after ESL One Rio

The developers have asked the main tournament organizers for proposals for the two additional ranking tournaments — pre-existing or new — and listed several requirements, which you can see below:

- The event will be between July and September.

- The event will result in a LAN portion with a minimum of 8 teams. The portion of the event preceding the LAN competition can be online or LAN.

- The event will include a minimum of 24 teams, of which 16 slots are available to teams by Major ranking, and 8 are selected by a process of the TO's choosing.

- The event results will differentiate between the top 16 performing teams and the remaining teams.

- Initial seeding for the event will be done by Major ranking.

- Valve will match up to $250k in prize money.

The email also states that the primary goal of these events will be to identify teams who will be invited to the Major, with Valve stressing that they will not place any constraints on the format, size, and location.

The chosen timeframe collides with the summer player break set up by the Counter-Strike Professional Players' Association, which falls on July 15-August 15 this year.

The invitational system for the Majors has largely remained the same ever since the offline qualifier was added ahead of ESL One Katowice 2015. Slight changes were introduced at the FACEIT Major, when the bottom two teams in the New Legends Stage stopped receiving Challengers status and instead had to go back to the Minor system, with a new "Play-in" tournament determining the two extra spots.

Unexpected
2020-01-17 11:21
#20
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Sri Lanka kvezee
wtf why
2020-01-17 11:23
Nah its good i guess, just wasnt expecting valve to do this
2020-01-17 11:26
#38
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Sri Lanka kvezee
yeah now i've understood everything and this is rlly interesting
2020-01-17 11:27
RIP fluke teams like Furia, ENCE, VP
2020-01-17 11:44
#78
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Sri Lanka kvezee
especially if VP will sell Jame to NaVi XDDDDDD
2020-01-17 11:47
Very interesting
2020-01-17 13:04
#156
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France uNLmofo
wont be as they say they want simple to be tha awp and they look for a rifle.
2020-01-17 13:55
Furia is legit compared to mibr now
2020-01-17 19:14
Can you explain it please?
2020-01-17 14:17
Why not do it like dpc point system like in dota?
2020-01-17 14:27
#212
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Estonia qoznyyy
+1
2020-01-17 17:04
+1
2020-01-18 20:54
Ez
2020-01-17 12:11
This is actually a good idea. What about Cologne (July) + 1 other in Septemer - for Fall Majors 1 other (Januray) + Katowice (Early March) - for Spring Majors This would add an additional purpose to those 2 legendary events
2020-01-17 12:41
For Cologne: >The event will be between July and September. <Check >LAN with a minimum of 8 teams. The portion of the event preceding the LAN competition can be online or LAN. <If this means the Lanxess arena phase, there's currently only 6 teams. >Minimum of 24 teams, of which 16 slots are available to teams by Major ranking. 8 teams by TO's choosing. <Currently 16 teams. 8 invited by ESL ranking, 8 come from qualifiers >The event results will differentiate between the top 16 performing teams and the remaining teams. <Not sure what this actually means, but shouldn't be a problem >Initial seeding for the event will be done by Major ranking. <Can be done
2020-01-17 15:13
Sure, It would take several adjustments, but it´s not crutial >Top 16 is played on LAN and there is top8 determined in the groupstage (which is LAN also) >Closed Qualifiactions might be considered part of the tournament (online phase) so there will be more than 24 teams (*It would just need several adjustments due to Major ranking invitations) >Katowice also made adjustments for Major, this would be relatively easy I think
2020-01-17 15:37
thanks for this
2020-01-18 04:23
Lmao rip the org who bought the CR4ZY roster
2020-01-17 11:26
Nah they are safe for the next major
2020-01-17 11:30
#57
Rob4 | 
Serbia e_loK
they are going to the first major this year regardless
2020-01-17 11:32
Actually for the next (Rio) major it still the same as before, so they still have the spot
2020-01-17 11:33
Happy 4 them
2020-01-17 12:17
#35
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Sweden Mouz_no1
+1
2020-01-17 11:27
#60
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Spain GayGuy2
Not sure if I like this, with the new leagues and tournaments with exclusive participations between the big teams the vast majority of the points will be given to the same teams so upranking for new good rosters will be almost imposible cuz they can't even play against the top 10 teams.
2020-01-17 11:33
Depends how they weight the rankings of the 3 events i guess.
2020-01-17 11:41
good point, i think the tournament must have open qualifier to affect the ranking. This ensures teams outside eu and na to be able to compete.
2020-01-17 12:01
#139
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Brazil UZeftG0D
They have minors
2020-01-17 13:20
The event will include a minimum of 24 teams, of which 16 slots are available to teams by Major ranking, and 8 are selected by a process of the TO's choosing. Hopefully this 8 comes from the qualifier. 2 EU 2 NA 2 CIS 2 ASIA AND OCEANIA
2020-01-17 14:30
#218
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Canada Tuxmux
The wording makes it seem like 8 are selected by TO's choosing (ie Direct invites) while 16 are available to teams by major ranking (ie open qualifiers)
2020-01-17 17:44
#227
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North America Ringil12
There are still minors
2020-01-17 18:58
#111
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Palestine MrZoldiK
Expected, they did it for Dota2 and now it's here...
2020-01-17 12:31
#4
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United States @Fridzu
ok
2020-01-17 11:21
its going to be a big failure
2020-01-17 14:45
#5
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Canada herocoolzzz
nice
2020-01-17 11:21
Nice
2020-01-17 11:21
Thats hige
2020-01-17 11:22
#8
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Germany Flachzange
awesome news
2020-01-17 11:22
#9
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Turkey Lennon1923
Wtf
2020-01-17 11:22
RIP fluke teams mens((
2020-01-17 11:22
#13
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Norway CheNaLii
WHATTTT
2020-01-17 11:22
omg
2020-01-17 11:22
hmm yes mens))))
2020-01-17 11:22
#16
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Liechtenstein Denial123
K
2020-01-17 11:23
#17
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Europe Juuzou_
Holy shit
2020-01-17 11:23
OMAGAD
2020-01-17 11:23
Noice. I still think they should re-invite top 8, but this is still better than the current system.
2020-01-17 11:23
#116
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Czech Republic PaYaB
I would re-invite top4 only, you can still remember flukes like col or QBF, who were crushed in quaterfinals after winning 3 bo1's.
2020-01-17 12:41
Have they improved their seeding system? I don't wanna see a shit team like Immortals reaching major finals again, I remember they played Big (reached play-offs by abusing the jump bug) and a falling VP, meanwhile astralis played sk first match, I'm not sure if they've changed something after that...
2020-01-17 12:56
The top4 only is not fluke proof, remember Gambit, Immortals or FaZe?
2020-01-17 16:01
#215
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Czech Republic PaYaB
Yeah, I went over this again and my conclusion is to only invite the winner. Also which faze run was fluke ?
2020-01-17 17:11
Gambit won a major, what was their result the next one? FaZe was top 2 after C9 forgot already?
2020-01-17 18:27
FaZe was no Fluke at all, they were the clear favorites to win the major
2020-01-17 22:38
not really no
2020-01-18 14:41
Wtf are you drunk dude xD I'm not a Faze Fan as you can see by my name, but yes they were the main favorites absolutely
2020-01-18 17:19
How could they be favorite since they did 15th/16th the major before ?
2020-01-18 18:36
Ok this is clearly bait have a nice day
2020-01-18 19:12
That's what some people say instead of admitting their mistake. Have a nice day too.
2020-01-18 19:40
#261
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Romania Iosif
THE FAVORITE OF WINNING A MAJOR IS NOT "CHOSEN" BASED ON THE RESULTS ON THE LAST MAJOR, BUT ON THEIR CURRENT FORM WHEN ENTERING THE MAJOR. better change your name to BigBaguetteSmallBrain
2020-01-24 12:46
Too bad FaZe was in crap form then.
2020-01-24 13:35
#263
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Romania Iosif
Won ESL One NY Won ELEAGUE CS GO Premier Won Esports championship series Second places in: ESL Pro League and Intel Extreme Masters Wtf are you talking about?
2020-01-24 13:44
They were literally in god tier form, everyone on the team was performing, and Faze was considered #1 in the world. 0/8
2020-02-04 01:55
#251
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Czech Republic PaYaB
It would be some kind of extra reward, 'cuz the prize money sucks compared to other top esports events
2020-01-18 14:34
I mean, fluke or not, they made it to the playoffs. I think they deserve at least an invite to the next major IMO.
2020-01-18 09:32
nice rip brazil
2020-01-17 11:23
Unexpected
2020-01-17 11:24
boring pretty shitty for upset teams
2020-01-17 11:24
thats good, no1 wants a shitty fluke like gambit c9 or avangar
2020-01-17 11:25
i dont know man seeing the same teams over and over is boring af I like seeing some upsets by teams that not normally make it into the top8
2020-01-17 11:35
+1
2020-01-17 12:14
+1
2020-01-17 14:27
#191
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New Zealand rOtten_97
+1
2020-01-17 15:20
+1
2020-01-17 17:58
#220
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World Beard43
+1
2020-01-17 17:59
+1
2020-01-18 09:37
+1
2020-01-18 13:46
#81
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Ukraine ksay
i want
2020-01-17 11:49
What do you mean? Gambit was constantly making top 8 in majors and c9 used to exit in groups stage but they were always there
2020-01-17 12:57
And c9 are competitive months before the major. They have like playoff finishes.
2020-01-17 14:33
The C9 roster that won the major was consistently hitting playoffs prior to the win. They were a stable underdog. Their bracket was also ridiculous compared to, say, Avangar's. People dislike C9, but it wasn't until after the major that they stopped performing.
2020-01-17 18:40
+1, I meant groups stage in major, the guy I replied to implied that if this new system was there in Boston c9 wouldn't win, and that's a utter lie
2020-01-18 01:41
Oh gotcha. Yeah. I realize what you were saying now, I misunderstood slightly! You are 100% on point there.
2020-01-18 03:13
+1 Who wants to see Astralis winning over and over? I want to see they suffering to teams like the sharks match...
2020-01-17 11:44
Problem is Astralis doesn't get upset by shit teams, especially not in majors
2020-01-17 12:50
#217
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North America SLGam1ng
But others do
2020-01-17 17:12
We are on our way to a csgo international pog
2020-01-17 11:24
+1 Valve do this please
2020-01-17 14:33
#26
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Pakistan LoOuU2
No more fluke teams then ? Only the ones which are consistent throughout the course of 3 tournis Its great , but no more underdog stories then
2020-01-17 11:25
Lol? How that supposed to change underdogs stories, if they are about going through minors and the fluke itself happens during tournament
2020-01-17 11:28
#44
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Pakistan LoOuU2
2020-01-17 11:29
#192
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New Zealand rOtten_97
There are still minors, so there will still be new qbfs and coLs and furias
2020-01-17 15:24
#205
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Pakistan LoOuU2
Sadly yea
2020-01-17 16:22
Yes but then they need to qualify for both majors, and have two good runs(less of a fluke) as opposed to automatically getting into the final group round automatically.
2020-01-17 17:10
someone can summarize
2020-01-17 11:26
since 2020 Fall Major, the 8 Legends will be determined by the rankings with 3 Tourneys ( 2020 Rio + 2 other 2020 events) and the Minor+Challengers Stage is still there
2020-01-17 12:05
since 3/4 of the teams are invited to big events, it's shenanigans to favor big sponsor teams
2020-01-17 13:09
#260
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Australia pinquii
name checks out
2020-01-20 00:36
Nice
2020-01-17 11:26
#33
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Germany Constikdw
thats so nice actually, always the best teams at the majors
2020-01-17 11:26
they were always the best teams at the major du deutscher nuttensohn
2020-01-17 13:18
Nah big was there too lol
2020-01-17 14:29
That's really good
2020-01-17 11:27
Nice, Ence and Vp not going to next major
2020-01-17 11:27
#39
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United States FiNa
So like Pro Circuit in Dota? Nice changes ngl.
2020-01-17 11:28
POGS now all they have to do is make csgo cost 100dollars and ban all these hackers :DDD
2020-01-17 11:28
+100500
2020-01-17 13:22
#45
ALEX | 
United Kingdom sQzxY
Nice
2020-01-17 11:29
thorin video in 10 minutes
2020-01-17 11:30
bookmark my words
2020-01-17 11:30
#99
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Poland BAN_ANIME
he didn't
2020-01-17 12:05
#47
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Malta MIHAJA
poggers
2020-01-17 11:30
awesome no words
2020-01-17 11:30
Nice
2020-01-17 11:30
sounds like dota pro circuit
2020-01-17 11:31
#53
JW | 
Sweden Hasklon
Wtf POG nice Valve
2020-01-17 11:31
#54
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Sweden Lingon
So the top 16 teams get's invited? Pretty good i guess
2020-01-17 11:31
#56
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Greenland kinley377
nice!
2020-01-17 11:32
0/8
2020-01-17 11:33
POG
2020-01-17 11:33
#62
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Taiwan SCVready
I love this change
2020-01-17 11:34
Nice Valve
2020-01-17 11:34
Rip Tier 2 scene and below just like in Dota2
2020-01-17 11:34
Nice no more russian fluke teams
2020-01-17 11:35
No more ENCE aswell :D
2020-01-17 11:42
#113
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Finland Alk0
With aleksib yes with current lineup no
2020-01-17 12:35
exactly
2020-01-17 13:04
#213
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Denmark ghostan11
No more Polish teams... Oh wait
2020-01-17 17:10
#112
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Russia ToughGuy
mens(((
2020-01-17 12:33
can someone explain im retarded
2020-01-17 11:37
You have to earn your spot instead of being invited There will be more ranking tournaments so teams finally gonna fight for spots Thats how I understood it, I may be wrong so
2020-01-17 11:41
#73
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Europe LoookATme
Top 8 to legends major,second top 8 to challangers
2020-01-17 11:42
TEST FOR A CSGO TI I GUESS HMMMM
2020-01-17 11:40
#72
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Europe LoookATme
Finally
2020-01-17 11:42
#75
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Serbia nocturnSRB
Ok?
2020-01-17 11:44
#77
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France p2l
Bad system Underdog stories will be negligible now
2020-01-17 11:46
#83
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Germany bartooo
Underdog stories are more unlikely to happen now than in the new system. Just imagine EU Minor now - Fnatic, Mousesports, NiP, MAD Lions, GODSENT, OG, Illuminar will have to fight for 2/3 spots at the Major. With the new system, when teams like Mousesports, Fnatic (and potentially NiP) will be invited straight up to the Major, its gonna be easier for tier2 teams from EU to get there as well, because they wont have to fight teams from top5 for a place at the Major.
2020-01-17 11:54
those team you said are for the rio major. At the fall major maybe it will be different but i understood your point
2020-01-17 13:26
kkkk rip cs
2020-01-17 11:48
#80
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Germany bartooo
Its a good change for everyone. Easier for tier2 teams to qualify to a Major, easier for top teams to qualify for a Major plus we will have all the best teams in the Major. Now, in the current stage of the process of qualificating for a Major, EU teams from top20/30 HLTV rankings are fucked, because they will have to fight for a spot at the Major vs. teams like Fnatic, Mousesports, NiP, just because they didnt perform at one tournament (the Major). After Rio, they wont have to fight with those top10 teams that should be at the major already anyway if we want the best teams. Very good.
2020-01-17 11:49
#89
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India Noobdian
True
2020-01-17 12:01
Also this system will get rid of abusing the coach-rule and any other shenanigans related to teams changing players and not having enough players to form the old core of the previous major.
2020-01-17 13:01
Yeah, expect some roster changes too as teams now won't have to keep people like bodyy for ages to keep the benefit of their major slot...
2020-01-18 09:27
thanks for your two posts - i guess i finally get the new system now. i am still not totally checking the old one though. just came back to being interested in cs since april '19. so in the old system you only got invited to the next major if you performed wll on the major event before that. and if you didnt (or even worse - you havent even been on the last major) you had to fight through a qualifier.
2020-02-04 19:02
A very welcome surprise.
2020-01-17 11:52
#84
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Turkey sonbafrali
I did not like this.
2020-01-17 11:56
Why? T1 and t2 teams>t3 teams.
2020-01-17 13:32
It means no Turkish team at major for at least 50 years :(
2020-01-17 16:16
maybe if youre lucky and big is performing good in the next month you can watch xantares though. ;) didnt like him last year. but he has stepped up his game enormously. even on LAN ;) if the can keep their form they could be able to move up the rankings
2020-02-04 19:07
OMG
2020-01-17 11:57
#86
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Netherlands staticNL
Finally. this is great news. Bit weird that only 8 teams have to play at lan according to valve. Nobody wants online play preceding it
2020-01-17 11:57
If you think about it, there's little financial incentive for the TOs to actually host this event. It should be very costly compared to another event with a similar return. However, the idea of online play is also a little unrealistic, because the teams will have to be from all over the world, to some degree. So there will be at least some travel costs for the TO to fill. Great idea from Valve anyway!
2020-01-17 15:06
#200
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Netherlands staticNL
I understand that theres little incentive, thats why I personally think valve should give the TOs some funding to host the event and make it as great as possible. This would also mean more content between games and better salaries for talent. There would be money to make the event truly a celebration of CS. If Valve were to sell cases, from which a percentage of the profits would go to the TO, Valve won't have to put in their own money (and will only earn money), and I'm sure it would raise enough to incentivice the TOs + give them the oppertunity to host an amazing event. Online play is very inferior to LAN play and should never be an option for the major. We should not be making concessions for the biggest events of the year (which we are already doing, sadly).
2020-01-17 16:01
If valve gives money to a TO without specifying what it must be spent on, that money will go wasted/ become extra profit. If valve gives a lot of money and carefully stipulates what all money given must be used for, they start to become like other game developers in their obsessive control of the esports scene. Valve has stated many times that their main goal is for the scene to be organic and without their influence as much as possible. So yes, I would like all the same things as you - but I don't see a good way for valve to require those things of a TO without effectively running the event themselves.
2020-01-17 16:03
#203
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Netherlands staticNL
"If valve gives money to a TO without specifying what it must be spent on, that money will go wasted/ become extra profit." That's not true per se. Valve can tell them that they want to see a truly amazing event and if they fail to do so, they won't get another major next time. This should incentivice TOs to make the major a great event, while still turning a nice profit from hosting the event. Of course every TO might spent their money differently (or not at all), but as long as its clear to Valve they didn't spend their money properly (as in: not underpaying talent, having a good production, some extra content between games, etc.), they can decide not to give them a chance to host another major. Which would lead to less profits for that TO in the future (by not being able to host another major. Also they should consider that CS might still be growing and thus the amount collected by crowdfunding might also grow). In this situation Valve would still be different from other devs, because other devs don't just give money and expect a good event, but they want to decide most things about the event and be very hands on. Also, even if the TOs have the spend the full amount of the sum given by Valve on the tournament itself, it would still be good advertisement for that TO. So even if they break even it would still be a positive for the TO. In this situation Valve would still be quite hands off. I'm currently not in the best state of mind to explain myself properly (hardly had any sleep LN), but I hope its clear enough.
2020-01-17 16:18
Nonono, you're talking about the major as an event whereas I'm talking about this new qualification stage the article is about. You can simply read above what Valve has said about their lax rules for the new tournament, and infer the financial complexities of the situation. I understand what you're trying to say, but at the end of the day you're just trusting in the kindhearted nature of a corporation while I'm trying to apply economic theory. I don't think there's any demand among TO's to be the one hosting these qualifier events. It doesn't seem to be tied to hosting the major at all. I hope the TOs prove me wrong and host a great event each time.
2020-01-17 20:22
#253
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Netherlands staticNL
Oh, so its only about the qualifiers? I didnt realize that
2020-01-18 17:18
Unexpected but POGGERS Finally Valve giving some attention to CS
2020-01-17 12:00
NICE
2020-01-17 12:01
#91
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India Noobdian
Nice valve
2020-01-17 12:01
#93
sh1ro | 
Philippines euzu
interesting concept
2020-01-17 12:02
Pog, fantastic news!
2020-01-17 12:02
NICE
2020-01-17 12:04
Finally.
2020-01-17 12:04
SICK, no more fucking lucky top8 morons playing 2 majors in a row
2020-01-17 12:05
Yep, good riddance
2020-01-18 09:30
DOTO System incoming but slowly
2020-01-17 12:13
NICE
2020-01-17 12:14
#105
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Finland 0lter
Dota failing so now they focus on cs pog jk dead game
2020-01-17 12:15
#106
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France Uexo
Ok ??
2020-01-17 12:15
People saying it is a bad news for upset teams, you have to look at the overall picture. At the moment, a lot of teams are focusing only on huge events : ECS/EPL/Majors. And all of them are willing to spend more time preparing for the Majors. This has a lot of impact for the audience which is for the good of the scene : - Teams will be hungrier to get to the top8 of each Majors, - Teams won't only focus on the Major, but the whole circuit, - The pricepool is increased for these two 'qualifying' events, - Real off-season in winter, not summer where you can have huge audiences. This will make the scene a lot more competitive. I'm sure it will rise the level of preparation again, like we had when LG(before SK) & Astralis brought a lot more tactical depths to the game. In the end it will be a lot more entertaining. I wish they had more than two tournaments in that circuit though. But Valve is doing the right move! Great!
2020-01-17 12:18
#137
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Brazil frajolla
+1
2020-01-17 13:16
#172
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Poland Arknes
+1
2020-01-17 14:35
The International CSGO edition is coming boisss
2020-01-17 14:38
#109
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Slovakia Kurki
trash
2020-01-17 12:19
#110
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Russia LeGoBoys
Rip navi the trash team. Hahahaha no more free spots earned by lucky brackets
2020-01-17 12:23
#114
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United Kingdom Peath
Not a massive fan of this. They could at least invite the semi-finalists, or the Legends. Kinda hard to solidify yourself as a top team if you lose at a tournament won on a fluke. Just moves the current issues towards smaller paycheques.
2020-01-17 12:37
#120
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Czech Republic PaYaB
As a top8 team at major, I assume you'll get a lot of points towards the ranking which will determine if the team will or won't be in another one.
2020-01-17 12:47
Read the article before commenting. There's no such thing as a ranked ladder being used.
2020-01-17 15:03
You either can't read or don't get it. Those top teams just have to prove it again at another event halfway between majors. The upside is more top level CS at huge tournaments. The downside is less room for other events that are smaller, less meaningful and more invite-heavy. A win-win as far as I can see.
2020-01-17 15:03
Unexpected, cool.
2020-01-17 12:44
FINALLY
2020-01-17 12:45
Finally ffs
2020-01-17 12:46
FINALLY
2020-01-17 12:48
#123
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Czech Republic fykseN1g
the prize money is so scuffed for the most played game on steam currently...
2020-01-17 12:50
That's the one downside, if major prizemoney stays the same we could eventually see a world where Astralis says "we won't bother with the time-consuming Major stuff, we'll just play the ESL circuit and win against tired opposition for more money" or something like that. Other than that, it's two "half-majors" every year! What's not to love about huge CS events!?
2020-01-17 15:00
#124
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United States big_brain
NO MORE FLUKE TEAM
2020-01-17 12:54
Rip ence and north spot xddd
2020-01-17 12:58
NO MORE SHIT TEAMS AT MAJOR
2020-01-17 13:03
#132
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Sweden Trkmag
Not too bad? Still kinda miss legends
2020-01-17 13:06
#134
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Finland Tusku
cool
2020-01-17 13:11
good.
2020-01-17 13:13
rip NaVi
2020-01-17 13:15
#141
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Hungary raffai
Nice nice
2020-01-17 13:24
She are good news!
2020-01-17 13:25
Very nice!!! Finally!!!
2020-01-17 13:28
great news
2020-01-17 13:28
Sounds interesting for sure, was so done with this old system.
2020-01-17 13:36
#148
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Denmark Notallama
I guess they will have to fit it between August 15th and September unless they want to see teams like FURIA, Phoenix or Moviestar Riders at the major.
2020-01-17 13:34
RIP NAVI BOIZ GG
2020-01-17 13:34
Didn't unserstand everything but okay Isn't it bad for CIS teams like ex-Avangar, ForZe, or event ex-Gambit which mostly show themselves at majors though ?
2020-01-17 13:36
no everything is the same but you dont have invite for next major just because you reached legend stage. for legend stage invite, you have to perform in these tournaments now. so no more fluke teams who suck but had a good major performance months ago, and no more "buy major spot team". it`s good!
2020-01-17 13:42
It's actually great for these teams, if they are actually good teams then they get to compete at two more high-prizemoney events per year!
2020-01-17 14:57
Great,no more fluke teams getting into the major for free
2020-01-17 13:44
very nice! it will guarantee that we see the best teams from the time between the majors. no clowns who were good 6 months ago or fluked through an easy bracket to a direct invite.
2020-01-17 13:48
Only 16 teams will get stickers?
2020-01-17 13:49
Did you read the article? No changes to the major were announced, they just redo the legends places halfway between majors.
2020-01-17 14:56
Honestly a great re-design of the current system. Only thing that sucks is during player break (WTF?) and also only requiring 8 teams on lan for the final placings (WTF?)
2020-01-17 13:52
ok
2020-01-17 14:01
I think they should only automatically invite the last champion
2020-01-17 14:08
#160
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Croatia Makz_CRO
Really dumb idea imo. At least the legends should keep their spot, there has to be some sort of reward for placing top 8 at the strongest tournament in the world...
2020-01-17 14:22
#161
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Netherlands gelm1r
dude, there been countless fluke teams playing against shit teams and getting to the top 8 by mere luck not because they deserve there. It's a good chance Only top 2 should MAYBE get a direct invite for the next major, but even top 4 is sketchky but top 8 is too much. Not to mention a team can drop off like crazy during the 1st and 2nd major of the year. Some teams were good at the 1st major and total shit the 2nd major. Just because they reached top 8 last major should not mean you deserve the next major.
2020-01-17 14:26
#167
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Croatia Makz_CRO
If you wanna argue flukes, the Gambit or Cloud9 shouldn't qualify either. Even if it is a fluke, why not reward those teams that reached the playoffs? Flukes are what makes tournaments interesting, everyone loves an underdog story, you wanna see those fluke teams play again and try repeating the miracle.
2020-01-17 14:30
#170
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Netherlands gelm1r
I agree, but flukes should happend at that EVENT a fluke should not give you a free ticket to the next event as well. I agree i like underdogs that's fine. But that wont get changed? A team can still get top 8. But because it's a fluke that team shouldn't be rewarded with something as big as a direct invite for the next major. They should still get some points for reaching top 8, and if they want to get to the next major they can prove it during the rest of the months if they deserve to be there.
2020-01-17 14:33
+1
2020-01-17 23:00
unexpected but i like it
2020-01-17 14:28
Comments in ‘MSL returns to North’ > this HLTV OMEGALUL
2020-01-17 14:32
#173
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Finland JooonsMO
In my opinion they should give invites to last major finalists but otherwise good change. Fluke teams which make it to top8 with only performing in that one tournament wont get invited to next 2 majors.
2020-01-17 14:36
YES! Finally!
2020-01-17 14:43
The people complaining are probably the same people who hated all the upsets in the playoffs of the events haha. I think it keeps competition fresh, if a Legends team can play at the same level next tournement then what's the problem?
2020-01-17 14:54
HOLY SHIT "The event will include a minimum of 24 teams" If Valve have actually convinced TOs to go ahead with this, we get two more major-tier tournaments every year. That is so fucking great! And just average 3 months between legend status being tested rather than a whole 6 months. Bravo, Valve! Looking forward to more great CS tournaments!
2020-01-17 14:55
#186
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Poland Kobel_
"- The event will result in a LAN portion with a minimum of 8 teams. The portion of the event preceding the LAN competition can be online or LAN." We might end up with tournaments with online group stages and only 2nd group stage/playoffs played on LAN. 2013/2014 vibes are strong with this one lol Not saying that it isn't a great move.
2020-01-17 15:05
It's clearly a cost-cutting measure to have the possibility of an online segment. However, the nature of such a tournament will likely make it impossible to just run an online event without much thought or setup, and may make it easier for this segment to just be a closed LAN. What I mean by that is: The 16 teams already invited and at least 8 tacked on will be from all around the world, and will need to be moved and housed for the duration of the qualification tournament. We may end up with a low quality, half online shitshow of an event, or we may end up with a perfect extension of the major system - either way, I'll watch. I'm one of those weird fuckers who likes to watch CS whether it's top 10 or top 100, online or LAN.
2020-01-17 15:26
Pog
2020-01-17 14:59
#187
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Poland Kobel_
That's just great
2020-01-17 15:05
#190
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CIS Cresscent
DPC system in CS:GO?
2020-01-17 15:16
yo lets go
2020-01-17 15:26
tl;dr
2020-01-17 15:32
Wtf
2020-01-17 15:43
expected
2020-01-17 15:55
#206
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Poland PSZ
VERY GOOD!
2020-01-17 16:28
it's after fluke second place ence and avangar
2020-01-17 16:34
#209
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Finland Faifainei
I am a bit sceptical of this change tbh.
2020-01-17 16:57
#210
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Russia Reph
Counter Strike Pro Circuit mens)))))
2020-01-17 17:02
I hope this works well.
2020-01-17 17:12
#221
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World Beard43
Interesting development. Sounds like we get a couple more big tournaments with all the top teams out of this which is definitely welcome!
2020-01-17 18:04
#222
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Denmark Zorrondo
RIP mibr and BR scene OMEGALUL
2020-01-17 18:08
Holy shit, this is amazing
2020-01-17 18:11
Not sure if tihs is perfetly OK, but still way better, than inviting team who fluked into top8 half a year ago and is not even somewhat relevant at the time of next major. Seems like valve woke up recently...
2020-01-17 18:12
better system, rip flukes.
2020-01-17 19:32
Interesting
2020-01-17 20:01
Rip ENCE
2020-01-17 20:15
What a shitty change
2020-01-17 21:10
... I need to see this more summarily
2020-01-17 21:37
top 8 should be still for next major, not ones who got to challenger
2020-01-17 22:59
#240
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Indonesia ro2a
i dont get it why ppl say "no more underdog story" or "no more fluke team" small team can still do that for a major, but not the next you remember QB Fire, they doing great in Boston but what next ? it was a wasted slot in London, some team from Major Main Qualifier stage more deserve the spot And also we will get a great CS when big team play against big team, we get a good game, organiser get the ad money from viewer (big game bring more viewer, still remember when less people watch Vitality vs Syman) a win-win situation
2020-01-17 23:04
Nice atleast some progress in csgo majors.
2020-01-18 04:36
Only 250k lul
2020-01-18 05:36
I hope teams on this 2 side events wont be invited to the tournaments, but they'll get spots only by qualifiers, otherwise it doesn't have any sense... I would like to see Astralis, for example, which is struggling through 594848 phases to get major spot...
2020-01-19 22:37
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