ESL issues apology to snubbed EPL teams for lack of communication

ESL's Senior Vice President of Product, Ulrich Schulze, has apologised to the teams who have been left out of ESL Pro League for the company's lack of communication before the start of the season.

ESL announced on Friday the first details about the 11th season of the Pro League, confirming the controversial decision to cut the number of teams from 48 to 24 as previously reported by DBLTAP.

The MTG-owned tournament organiser also unveiled a preliminary list, featuring teams who had been invited but had not yet committed to the competition. These included member organizations that had agreed to the "Lanxess Agreement", EPL S10 Finals participants, the latest ESEA MDL winners and teams determined by the ESL World Ranking.

ESL has faced criticism for a move which is set to exclude teams who already had spots in the league - such as BIG and HellRaisers -, and others who were due to take part in the relegation stage and whose requests for information were ignored by ESL for months. In a statement issued on Monday, the Counter-Strike Professional Players' Association (CSPPA), which recently signed a framework agreement for the ESL Pro Tour, admitted to being "disappointed with the way ESL has handled their communication of the EPL changes".

In a series of tweets, Schulze admits that this saga should have been handled differently, but insists that the company is now working with the affected teams to "address their concerns to the best possible extent."

"We apologise that we have not conducted the process up to the desired standards," the ESL chief said. "We got it wrong by not letting affected teams know further in advance that significant changes were coming, including the number of teams playing. While several important elements of the league's structure were unknown until last week, the teams were not given enough notice.

"We did not engage with the affected teams enough to understand how we can preserve the value the EPL slot held for them. We have reached out to all teams and are going to speak this week to make sure that we can address their concerns to the best possible extent."

Schulze maintains that all the teams who have been left out will have a chance to qualify for Pro League Season 12 "in a way that ensures regional representation". The qualifying process has not yet been decided, but this statement offers a ray of light for teams from South America - a region that initially looked to be excluded from the Pro League circuit.

"We are still working on final details inconsultation with the CSPPA, but any of the teams will be able to make it back in season 12 - not only through MDL and in a way that ensures regional representation," he added.

"ESL Pro League and MDL are going to co-exist in the future, and it is our clear intent to make sure that MDL remains a stable environment for teams to compete in below ESL Pro League.

"In 2020 we have opened the ESL Pro Tour up with a large number of opportunities for aspiring teams to reach the Masters level, including spots for Challenger tournaments in Masters tournaments and a mandated percentage of open online qualifiers in our Masters stops. We remain committed to making sure that over the broad spectrum of our activities as many teams as possible receive chances to compete at the highest level."

The ESL chief added that more details will be released "in the coming days", with Season 11 scheduled to start on March 16.

good.
2020-01-27 20:52
#2
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Spain Granjero 
I agree
2020-01-27 20:52
who cares dead game
2020-01-27 21:05
#42
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Spain Granjero 
"dead" although it's the most played game on Steam?
2020-01-27 21:17
0/8
2020-01-27 21:18
#58
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Vietnam Theunseen1512 
usernamechecksout
2020-01-27 21:32
Nice apology lmao expected from a german scumbag
2020-01-27 22:58
#57
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United States soondead 
who cares steam dead
2020-01-27 21:32
who cares we all gonna die soon
2020-01-27 21:36
#86
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Canada Sharkey3322 
Dota 2 is lower??
2020-01-28 00:37
yeah crazy huh
2020-01-28 02:19
yeah for a while now
2020-01-28 07:48
Most of them are people that cheat and create new accounts over and over. Yes it is dead game.
2020-01-28 04:43
+1 Truth hurts soyboys
2020-01-28 05:01
#114
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Finland darkyf1 
i don't think there's 500000 hackers in cs
2020-01-28 07:36
sometimes it feels like it tho
2020-01-28 07:48
Trolls and wetawds, maybe. Hackers? No. T4 program vote anyone?!?!?
2020-01-28 09:11
Just hackers. dead game. play fortnite
2020-01-28 12:26
Off season
2020-01-28 00:28
Ulrich Schnauze
2020-01-27 22:20
#62
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Denmark Jeffersond 
Well on a corporate level they had to say sorry officially
2020-01-27 21:42
Ok
2020-01-27 20:52
#4
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Spain Granjero 
Good to hear!
2020-01-27 20:52
#112
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Finland Smoonah 
sorry fixes everything in shit game no?
2020-01-28 07:19
cool
2020-01-27 20:52
ok
2020-01-27 20:52
Cool
2020-01-27 20:53
#8
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Czech Republic Rewask 
Apology changes nothing.
2020-01-27 20:53
#17
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Netherlands Alvinvl 
It does. They show they were wrong and will do better in the future.
2020-01-27 20:58
#21
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Czech Republic Rewask 
And what does it change about the current situation? Nothing.
2020-01-27 20:59
Yeah...
2020-01-27 21:21
#93
vberg | 
North America Mang0 
Lol at thinking apologies mean anything without actions. 2/10 IQ
2020-01-28 01:49
it wasnt meant to change in the first place. but a heads up would have been good, now they just smacked everyone out without any notice. if they wouldve told everyone it would still have been shit but then they would have done it the right way.
2020-01-27 20:59
#25
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Czech Republic Rewask 
Well yeah, if they would announce long before they did it, it would have been alright. It would have been a stupid idea regardless, but at least it wouldn't have sparked so much controversy.
2020-01-27 21:00
yeah it wouldve been the best way to handle situation. they just made it worse for themself by not notifying anyone about the changes. this just gave them a lot of backlash. ofcourse it changes nothing for the team but acknowledging they were wrong is a step in the right decision for future decisions like this (for other leagues as well)
2020-01-27 21:03
#29
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Czech Republic Rewask 
I agree :)
2020-01-27 21:04
It should of been a full season before. esl should have told all 48 teams that the bottom 24 are going to be kicked before last season so that they know what they are actually competing for. Also they really screwed over teams like Havu, Spirit and ForZe who all competed through MDL for their spots, which are now gone I assume. The literal prize of MDL 1st place is a direct spot in pro league, seems so scummy to not give it to them.
2020-01-28 03:25
#111
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Yugoslavia 420iquser 
The top teams in EU and NA MDL still got an EPL spot (ForZe and INTZ), but it does suck that teams like HAVU and Spirit didn't have the opportunity to compete in the relegation playoffs for a spot.
2020-01-28 06:55
#126
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Korea Jew2K 
Yeah but it reduces the amount of hate for not apologising
2020-01-28 11:39
#9
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Portugal SenorOfTruth 
this is are interesting very information
2020-01-27 20:54
Are is this a an information very?
2020-01-28 09:24
A an information very are is this?
2020-01-28 10:24
#10
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United States NA_LULW 
Esl biatch
2020-01-27 20:55
#12
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Switzerland x676 
Inviting teams that didn't even play MDL was a disgrace.
2020-01-27 20:56
100% true except inviting ENCE
2020-01-27 20:58
#24
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Netherlands Alvinvl 
ESL is a commercial company get over it. Teams like OG are just more fun to watch and attract more viewers
2020-01-27 20:59
its not dota OG where 5 players are insane and best in the world on their roles its just 5 washed up clowns without proper communication/chemistry/strats etc better team = more fun to watch names is nothing
2020-01-27 22:27
#81
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United Kingdom dokunug 
Your wrong, thats why people lke the kardashians are so famous. Names and Brands are everything in entertainment, thats why a team like OG, a new, exciting, and previously unseen project, would attract more attention than a team like Mad LIons, who have a solid base, and good core strength. People wanna see stories like AleksiB getting revenge on Ence, NBK getting revenge on Vitality, the rise of a promising talent,( Mantuu) more than they want to see another danish team who are kinda good. Its entertainment, and thats how it works.
2020-01-27 23:49
Nope, you are wrong, all these players are washed up as fuck maybe except Valde Nobody wanna watch poor trash NBK that was kicked from every single team he played, nobody want to see tier5 nonamer mantuu, nobody wants to see tier3 irrelevant Arab player, nobody wants to see legendary Aleksib tactic go A but then go A The only reason why someone still talking about this team its legendary dota lineup, nothing in common with good teams. When I watch tournament I enjoy watching insane CS, close matches, clutches that deciding winner. I don't want to watch when team A (any top15 team) raping team B (OG/Mibr etc)
2020-01-28 00:03
Yes. Hellraisers ftw :) They invited top teams so that the competing league would not get them.
2020-01-28 01:21
#13
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Brazil CaioOlive 
haha, make shit management then apologize
2020-01-27 20:56
#23
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United States Bochanka 
no one cares about mibr being in this league, it would just be worse haha
2020-01-27 20:59
#38
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Brazil Gokmun 
G2 really is a good team, congratulations (ironic)
2020-01-27 21:11
#64
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United States Bochanka 
brazil = -IQ
2020-01-27 21:47
fan of g2 lol
2020-01-28 18:36
#138
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Brazil CaioOlive 
Nah, you're right, MIBR is shit. I don't suppose you're a fan of G2 because of how well they play. Still, it's a very shitty management and could have hard repercussions that a simple sorry won't solve. ESL is a joke. And with all the good casting in FACEIT, I wonder who will cast it.
2020-01-28 22:56
That was necessary
2020-01-27 20:56
Who gives a shit about some random ass PR tweet,call it news when something actually changes
2020-01-27 20:57
#118
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Austria gex0r 
+1
2020-01-28 08:42
doesn't change anything but ok
2020-01-27 20:58
#18
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United States Bochanka 
Apology? btw some of you clowns do nothing with your life but sit at the computer waiting for a post to be first. How pathetic
2020-01-27 20:58
#22
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Germany ariany 
sorry that we destroyed your dream of pro and killed some of you guy's job
2020-01-27 20:59
#96
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Oceania Rusuli 
"sorry"
2020-01-28 02:21
Who gives a fuck about these snubbed teams anyway, they can go to B site if they want ESL is the league for the big boys, none of that MIBR, Dignitas, Cloud9 trash here.
2020-01-27 21:00
#30
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United States Bochanka 
agreed
2020-01-27 21:04
lol OG big boys league Honestly, they’re both commercial leagues. OG doesn’t compare to the other teams they’re just names, very similar to new Dignitas in BSite
2020-01-27 21:05
#37
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Poland Chiirs 
Well so far only NiP is confirmed. Other maybe will play, maybe not.
2020-01-27 21:08
> big boys > og, tylul, sharks, intz, renegades, ence, complexity, godsent, vp LUL
2020-01-27 21:12
+1
2020-01-28 18:37
#69
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Brazil mth^ 
INTZ big boy, sure
2020-01-27 22:23
maybe he should apologize for trying to make teams sign 4-6 years contracts with them in order to get exclusivity in the shadiest way possible
2020-01-27 21:03
minha pica!!!
2020-01-27 21:05
#32
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Israel OKOptimistic 
apology accepted
2020-01-27 21:05
I cried evritim I zink of it but I execept apolojizz ((
2020-01-27 21:06
As much as I dislike weak, overhyped teams such as BIG and shit like that, it is unfair for them to be excluded if they already had a spot
2020-01-27 21:07
#46
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World breezy0 
lul MIBR never won against BIG
2020-01-27 21:20
who gives a F for that? lol MIBR core players have 2 majors and other relevant titles, BIG players have what? A Dreamhack Open? lol
2020-01-27 23:39
#108
jks | 
Australia Rene_Gade 
DH open in home country*
2020-01-28 06:30
+1
2020-01-27 22:26
#39
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Netherlands Boutdis 
shameless
2020-01-27 21:12
why do u organise MDL then? DONT DO IT THEN IF U WONT GIVE THE SPOT!!
2020-01-27 21:13
Garbage excuses. CSPPA already messing up
2020-01-27 21:17
#45
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World breezy0 
so teams who qualified have to qualify again? u wot m8?
2020-01-27 21:19
No mibr?
2020-01-27 21:21
#48
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Ukraine ksay 
idk what to think about it will wait for rLewis and Thorin to form my opinion
2020-01-27 21:21
Rofl
2020-01-27 21:22
If you need them to form your opinion, you are lost. However, nice b8 btw. :D
2020-01-27 21:42
thorin already boicoted them
2020-01-27 21:52
Not good enough. Led them on only to get nothing in the end.
2020-01-27 21:23
With all that experience they still act like fucking amateurs... Just for that I hope teams will join the BSite league or BLAST.
2020-01-27 21:25
#53
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Poland kola5410 
Pff, worthless apologies, changes are needed, big, sprout didnt deserve it
2020-01-27 21:26
#54
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Germany BIG2020 
i hear you where qualified, but how nice would it be if it would be possible to qualify again?
2020-01-27 21:27
Ok, but still very unprofessional. How to ruin your reputation 101.
2020-01-27 21:28
#56
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Germany ToiletShitter 
damage control We rekt you but don’t like our public image right now so here’s some bullshit.
2020-01-27 21:29
Good on them to apologize but honestly what has become the point of MDL if there is no option for promotion/relegation to EPL?
2020-01-27 21:47
#65
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Russia ultnie 
So just total damage control because community was furious and ESL had to do at least something about it.
2020-01-27 21:48
this guy used to be a toxic admin, so im not suprised by this 😋😋 flying dj never forget the wolfenstein & enemy territory times when u were a nobody (ofc 0% of hltv users will know what im talkin about, newfags.)
2020-01-27 21:55
#104
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France laglory 
yeah yeah cool bullshit story now gtfo fag
2020-01-28 05:25
"the Counter-Strike Professional Players' Association (CSPPA), which recently signed a framework agreement for the ESL Pro Tour, admitted to being "disappointed with the way ESL has handled their communication of the EPL changes". Here's your "collective voice of the players in CS:GO and an important stakeholder in the industry" what a fucking clownfiesta
2020-01-27 22:25
Ya they shoulda boycotted, especially if that shit about 4-6 year contracts is true
2020-01-27 23:54
"whose requests for information were ignored by ESL for months" All they can and will do is jack shit. It's not like the changes happened overnight. What did the CSPPA do to clarify the situation during those months? Yeah, jack shit.
2020-01-28 00:15
It's almost like ESL is an amateur T/O. A company who has been doing eSports tournaments in general as long as they have can't fuck up like this it's atrocious. Not only that, but like you said, the CSPPA makes a statement saying "they are disappointed with the way ESL handled it" is like saying yeah, we acknowledge this is a huge blunder for the cs scene as a whole, but we're not going to do anything about it sorry, but get fucked. Not to mention that fucking Complexity who couldn't qualify for DH Leipzig over Cloud9 is in the circuit cause they have tons of money. It's fucking horseshit the teams who qualified deserve justice is in some way.
2020-01-28 01:03
Completely agree man. This whole drama just shows how fucking amateur csgo scene is in general. What ESL did is so fucking disgusting that I'd love to see Valve step up with a big ass fine or whatever though I know it would never happen. Guess I'll be rooting for the B Site league to eventually overthrow these fuckers though again I doubt it will ever happen.
2020-01-28 01:41
Yeah Valve stepping in is highly unlikely, but like someone above said, the CSPPA should have boycotted this instead of sign an agreement for it like what in the actual fuck were they thinking? 4-6 year contracts initially after Valve had made a statement at the end of the year that exclusivity wouldn't be tolerated doesn't scream red flag to you? Then they leave management who has been reaching out to them about updates on what they're planning out of the picture for months and all of sudden they cut the league from 48 teams to 24. ESL literally just took out their dick and slapped all the aspiring teams who were gonna make it across the face with it. I agree I hope teams migrate over to bsite because of this
2020-01-28 01:59
They didn't only dickslap all these teams but also pissed on them by saying "Hey don't be mad you can still qualify for the next season through MDL! You did it once, you can do it again, right? Right!" Fuck man, I genuinely don't remember the last time I was actually angry at anything related to csgo or even esports in general. I just don't care, I don't even play cs anymore. Somehow this shit pisses me off much more than it realistically should.
2020-01-28 14:38
#109
jks | 
Australia Rene_Gade 
CSPPA found to be without any power or influence. Shock horror!
2020-01-28 06:33
It doesn't bother me that CSPPA turned out to be useless because it was obvious from the beginning. What bothers me is that CSPPA actually acts against the interest of the very teams they were supposed to protect.
2020-01-28 14:43
#132
jks | 
Australia Rene_Gade 
All about $.. like every business everywhere, ever.
2020-01-28 16:59
Teams with large sponsors sweep the teams with skill, long live ESL capitalism ...
2020-01-27 22:44
#75
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Finland ZesseX 
Too late...
2020-01-27 22:49
At least they admit it...
2020-01-27 23:16
Yo, we fucked you for real, but sorry for this. We will try to not fuck u next time, but it's not a promise.
2020-01-27 23:19
So ESL solved everything in their mind with that apologize. I think this is another type of communication problem.
2020-01-27 23:32
"yeah, we're fucking you over and discluding you from this season of EPL even though you qualified for it, but hey, you can qualify again next year and we apologized for it, so we're square right?" ESL how dumb can you be? I hope teams see this massive amateur blunder and sign with bsite instead
2020-01-28 00:55
haha that's funny, you did a shit job and you plainly admitted it. there's nothing you can do about that now i guess. so my question is why even bother?
2020-01-28 01:06
sorry = nothing
2020-01-28 01:11
good.
2020-01-28 03:10
#101
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African Union mikecool 
The teams that were left out are still snubbed and have to go through the other alternatives though. So that's still not helpful to them?
2020-01-28 03:48
+1 "sorry for screwing you over. we're not going to help you though"
2020-01-28 05:39
lame
2020-01-28 05:51
#107
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North America Boombl4_2Fat 
LOL at orgs crying bc they are too poor to get a spot. Better start a gofundme clown9 LUL
2020-01-28 05:57
You're missing the point. The Problem is that teams who earned a EPL spot for the new season got CUT and teams who not even played MDL or qualified for EPL are now invited. Just think about the Sponsors of these orgs. They have contracts for sponsoring teams in the EPL cause u have so much attention there. The Lack of communication ESL showed here, made it even worse. Its a fucking nightmare for all smaller orgs with good teams. For me this is a absolute b*tch move and Orgs and player should boycott this ESL Circuit. Even if a team qualify through MDL they will be never sure if they get cut again cause ESL is a greedy TO and lost all of his sense for the basis. DISBAND ESL PLS
2020-01-28 11:25
#131
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North America Boombl4_2Fat 
German? Mad? Adds up. Get ur money up orgs xaxaxaxaxaxaxaxa
2020-01-28 16:05
#110
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Ukraine TBOY(2) 
Still thinks that ESL fucked up
2020-01-28 06:35
Stop split between NA and EU. So we don't have to see the NA tier 4 teams
2020-01-28 07:24
BIG TOP 1 not invited?????
2020-01-28 08:41
ESLUL
2020-01-28 09:17
What a chaotic circumstance
2020-01-28 10:45
esl worst TO ever
2020-01-28 10:52
#127
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Denmark Ch4nz9 
Wtf is this? Apologise Later? Ur a Joke Esl
2020-01-28 12:00
Glad to hear they acknowledge what happened.
2020-01-28 19:10
Apology lmao. Those orgs might die without the exposure. Not everyone can afford the b site buy in, and blast is not interested in every team. If ESL had anything on the new-money leauges it was consistency, and they've thrown that away just now.
2020-01-28 20:35
Imagine thinking this apology is truthful HAHA, fucking dumb sheep. fuck blast was fun for a while, guess its back to FUCK THE ESL.
2020-01-29 14:45
#140
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Austria doMK0 
I don't get it. Isn't there some sort of contract/agreement between ESL Pro Series and the attending teams? You cant just cut the teams, and let them find out over a press article -- i mean legaly, how is that possible? Orgs are businesses, they are considering and planing with that market value, which will decrease if they are not able to play in the event (which they are rightfully qualified for).
2020-01-29 16:45
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