ESL announces crowd interference measures for IEM Katowice

ESL has announced that a series of measures will be put in place at IEM Katowice to prevent the crowd from interfering with the matches.

In a Reddit post, Michal "Carmac" Blicharz, VP of Pro Gaming at ESL, addressed the divisive debate about whether soundproof booths are necessary for live CS:GO tournaments. The discussion has raged on for years but became a hot topic at the ESL Pro League Season 10 Finals, where Andreas "Xyp9x" Højsleth appeared to gain information on the whereabouts of an opponent in the semi-final series against mousesports by listening to the crowd's reaction while he checked an angle on Overpass.

The Astralis member played down that situation after the match, explaining that there is a clear difference between fans giving away positions or sensitive information and getting loud and reacting preemptively to a potential play. He also called on tournament organisers to set up soundproof booths to eliminate "undue outside sound interference".

ESL wants to establish a fan etiquette for CS events

But this is anything but a simple issue. Besides impacting the fan experience, booths also come with increased costs that go into the region of hundreds of thousands of dollars. In a recent HLTV Confirmed episode, Blicharz had revealed that a pair of "proper booths" like the ones used for Dota 2's The International "cost around $700,000 to $800,000". Building in-house can reduce those costs to approximately $300,000, according to him, but multiple booths would still need to be constructed to make sure that all tournaments hosted by ESL and DreamHack over the year are played in the same conditions.

Blicharz wrote that ESL "fundamentally believes in the chemistry of the players and the audience", which "raises the experience on an emotional level" and creates moments that become "meaningful and memorable". According to him, tournaments lose some of that experience with booths, which is why the company will tackle the issue of crowd interference from a different angle.

"We will be running PSA videos and we will talk to them via the stage MC in order to educate them on what we think is appropriate and what isn’t," the ESL chief explained.

"Cheering before a knife kill, cheering during trigger discipline moments, cheering for things the player shouldn’t be able to see, etc. are moments when the audience waits until the deed is done.

"Establishing a fan etiquette in any sport is not easy, but I think we can get there."

In case the audience fails to abide by these rules, ESL will follow Chad "SPUNJ" Burchill's suggestion and disable x-ray vision on the arena monitors for a minimum of 20 minutes after every infraction. Fans can also be ejected in extreme situations.

IEM Katowice will run from February 24 through March 1, with $500,000 on the line. Sixteen sides, including all teams who are currently ranked inside the top 10, will be taking part in this tournament, which will begin with a double-elimination group stage, which will be played backstage from Monday to Thursday.

Australia Chad 'SPUNJ' Burchill
Chad 'SPUNJ' Burchill
Age:
30
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
0.87
Maps played:
158
KPR:
0.62
DPR:
0.73
APR:
0.18
Denmark Andreas 'Xyp9x' Højsleth
Andreas 'Xyp9x' Højsleth
Age:
24
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.04
Maps played:
1630
KPR:
0.67
DPR:
0.61
APR:
0.17
Lmao rip EG even more kkkkk
2020-02-20 23:05
#7
OK | 
Peru TheJuan 
No more crowdstralis
2020-02-20 23:07
#46
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Netherlands HetIsPatat 
"We will be running PSA videos and we will talk to them via the stage MC in order to educate them on what we think is appropriate and what isn’t" omegalul
2020-02-20 23:31
ESL soon to be known as Esports' Stalinist League
2020-02-21 00:00
“In a Reddit post” Lost all respect for ESL
2020-02-21 16:46
such a long winded way to say, "we're not going to stop them" lol
2020-02-21 00:06
#98
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Netherlands HetIsPatat 
Exactly.
2020-02-21 00:54
#141
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United States ColdBlooded 
did you not read the part where they said they would disable X-ray for the monitors in the arena if they gave away info?
2020-02-21 05:34
No, I didn't see that, That should work though.
2020-02-21 07:46
#155
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Sweden crittaN 
Next time try reading the post before commenting edgy hormonal remarks
2020-02-21 07:53
I should of practiced more diligence when reading this reddit post about a video game, the whole world could of collapsed. Chill out buddy.
2020-02-21 08:03
#161
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Denmark Notallama 
Should have
2020-02-21 08:18
#243
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United States ColdBlooded 
this natice english speaking kid just got grammared on by a Dane, OOF!
2020-02-22 04:27
2020-02-26 01:01
#202
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Sweden crittaN 
>should of >reddit post 2/8
2020-02-21 13:06
You should just disable x-ray completely on arenas. And minimap.
2020-02-21 16:32
#215
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United States ColdBlooded 
no because that would make the viewing experience worse, i think this is a good start and if doesn't work i would do that as a final measure, but it's good as a viewer to have that info
2020-02-21 16:45
Nah. In real sports you dont even need commentary.
2020-02-21 16:57
#221
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United States ColdBlooded 
well this isn't real sports, that's why it's called esports there's a reason football is played on grass and we play over the internet and a bunch of pixels, they're two completely different things
2020-02-21 17:02
Youre not playing or watching online if you sit in an arena.
2020-02-21 17:04
#227
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United States ColdBlooded 
i didn't say that, they don't NEED X-RAY in real sports because nobody can go INVISIBLE!
2020-02-21 17:24
Yeah lmao, you see every player at every point even when they’re not on the field. In CSGO there are so many different levels to each map, for instance Overpass has 4 different levels, Nuke has 3, Cache has 2, Mirage has 3, Dust has 3, that it’s just impossible to see everyone.
2020-02-21 17:59
#145
keev | 
Germany _PH1L 
Or rather: Our solution your problem
2020-02-21 06:19
#84
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France LeDiplomate 
It's because of braindead fans like you that this problem is up in the first place.
2020-02-21 00:24
#96
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Netherlands HetIsPatat 
What did I do? Isn't it obvious he's not going to actually change anything?
2020-02-21 00:53
#142
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United States ColdBlooded 
did you not read the part where they said they would disable X-ray for the monitors in the arena if they gave away info?
2020-02-21 05:35
#164
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Netherlands HetIsPatat 
I did, so why not just start with that instead of trying to re-educate gamers?
2020-02-21 08:28
#177
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Turkey Rick_Sanchez 
Because they are humans not some uneducated monkeys, they are able to learn from their mistakes. Why would they perform such an attitude against the people who makes esports a viable industry by supporting.
2020-02-21 09:54
#182
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Netherlands HetIsPatat 
Other sports have shown us how well the public can be 'trained', I don't see why this time it would be any different.
2020-02-21 10:32
#210
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United States ColdBlooded 
have you ever watched tennis?
2020-02-21 16:16
#213
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Netherlands HetIsPatat 
No, why?
2020-02-21 16:35
#214
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United States ColdBlooded 
because they don't cheer while the ball is live and if someone does they get thrown out
2020-02-21 16:43
#216
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Netherlands HetIsPatat 
Sounds great. Have you ever watched football?
2020-02-21 16:45
#220
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United States ColdBlooded 
ya, but the reason is that no one stops them, if they cheer no one does anything, with this they said they'll turn off the arena camera, meaning the crowd won't be able to reveal positions even if they wanted to
2020-02-21 17:01
#222
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Netherlands HetIsPatat 
So, again: why don't they just lead with that?
2020-02-21 17:02
#223
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United States ColdBlooded 
what do you mean?
2020-02-21 17:03
#225
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Netherlands HetIsPatat 
#164, this chain is just going on circles at this point.
2020-02-21 17:06
#226
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United States ColdBlooded 
no you don't make any sense, lead with what?
2020-02-21 17:23
#228
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Netherlands HetIsPatat 
With turning off the xray, instead of first trying to teach the crowd how to behave.
2020-02-21 17:25
#229
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United States ColdBlooded 
because it makes the experience worse because they won't have that info to utilize to create the tension, and all you have to do is if they do goive away information turn it off, why keep it off to begin with when they might want that information
2020-02-21 17:26
#230
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Netherlands HetIsPatat 
Now you're not making any sense. Why would they offer turning off the x-ray as a solution, but only as a second solution because if it were the first solution it would "worsen the experience"?
2020-02-21 17:31
#231
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United States ColdBlooded 
it is the first solution, IF!!!! they give away infom then they turn off xray, so that give an incetive to not give away info, PUT IT THIS WAY, if I knew the xray would be off the whole time in an arena I probably wouldn't want to go, so there, now ask every other person who watches counterstrike and find out if in there opinion it would worsen the experience, i'm out
2020-02-21 17:47
#234
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Netherlands HetIsPatat 
I understand what you're saying. I interpreted it differently because of the if-clause preceding the text about turning off x-ray and evicting people, so it threw me off.
2020-02-21 19:28
+1 for name
2020-02-21 14:55
#235
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Netherlands HetIsPatat 
thank mr. men)) 🍟 PATAT ARMY 🍟
2020-02-21 19:29
Lol astralis have never won and tournament in their home so u can't say that xD
2020-02-21 08:12
#172
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Norway TheMushrix 
They literally won a pro league final in Denmark...
2020-02-21 09:08
Oh yea, my bad sorry mens
2020-02-21 11:52
Just forget this education bullshit and just turn off the xrays
2020-02-21 04:19
The xrays are nice to have as a spectator. Besides, didn't you read the part where ESL will turn off x ray for 20 minutes if someone makes an infraction?
2020-02-21 06:10
Yea that could definitely help
2020-02-21 08:09
The xrays are nice to have, but I think trying to get thousands of teenagers to comply will be a tremendous waste of time for a lot of events Turning them off as some sort of "punishment" to the audience is just insulting to be honest, just have them off from the start and save the effort
2020-02-21 16:27
It's also insulting to have xray off, but ok
2020-02-22 16:06
EG won't win any tier 1 tournament this year
2020-02-21 08:08
wait i am confused. what happened to the dreamhack booth built in late 2015 for the Cluj major? i have not seen for years
2020-02-21 15:57
Expensive as fuck
2020-02-21 16:02
I mean, couldn't they just use that again? They made it inside a freight, so they don't have to build it again and making it easy to be transported by trucks.
2020-02-21 19:08
Think those were loaned
2020-02-22 16:07
hi
2020-02-20 23:05
#3
FalleN | 
Brazil Biel675 
let's see how it works
2020-02-20 23:06
Good luck trying to control the crowds,
2020-02-20 23:07
Gl hf
2020-02-21 01:59
+1
2020-02-20 23:07
#6
Sonic | 
Germany SSimonL 
What do you wanna do? Flex Seal their mouths? Cant even cheer anymore lmao
2020-02-20 23:07
Yep this ain't fucking tennis or something only old men watch, there are children and manchilds there, how retarded are they to expect to control them
2020-02-21 05:00
exactly... and the crowd is their to cheer and express their excitement for the game .... they should just worry more about noise cancelling booth or headset...instead of punishing fans
2020-02-21 07:06
#178
mantuu | 
United Kingdom Ruicko 
It's not about punishing fans it's about trying to create a culture of respect for the game - why shouldn't there be penalties for people who give away positions in a clutch situation? The game would be better off if the crowd could stfu until the play has been made
2020-02-21 09:57
The excitement for the possibility of a play is just as important as the play itself. As a fan, whether the play works or not doesn't matter as much as the play. Thus enforcing people to hold in their excitement would actually make the viewing experience worse. My problem is that soundproof booths are a completely viable option and they're just trying to be cheap and get the second best possibility to get out of spending money. Surely as an Esports organizer setting up these booths once is worth the price for integrity of the game?
2020-02-23 16:06
#260
mantuu | 
United Kingdom Ruicko 
Why can't you be excited and simultaneously not shout and scream? The expression 'on the edge of your seat' wasn't just made up out of nowhere
2020-02-23 17:25
Everyone expresses their emotions in their own ways.
2020-02-25 15:04
#263
mantuu | 
United Kingdom Ruicko 
I understand that in a different context but when its a significant section of the crowd and its giving an indication to the players of positions etc then there needs to be a culture shift. is all im saying men))
2020-02-25 20:55
I disagree, since there exists a different solution. To me it seems more like censoring, while they could also just stop being greedy and pay for soundproof booths, which I by the way don't believe are as costly as they claim them to be.
2020-02-25 21:57
#265
mantuu | 
United Kingdom Ruicko 
I don't think its the cost I think as they mentioned it's better to try and shape the culture around respect for the clutch situations (as there are in many sports like tennis, baseball etc.)
2020-02-25 22:15
I'm not saying there shouldn't be any respect in general for the game, but I think there is a line that should be drawn. For me personally that line is drawn before you start to silence people for getting excited. Obviously things like calling out spots and such is a no-go. And to me it does seem to me like they are trying to save costs. Why else would they be calling booths hundreds of thousands of dollars? It seems to me like they might've written a 0 too much, because there is no way it costs as much as a large house. The article glosses over it and this may be because that's what the ESL did as well, but that to me seems like even more reason to look at it as a cost saving policy. In the end, my problem is that they use 'the culture' as an excuse to not pay for soundproof booths, which is bs if you ask me.
2020-02-26 00:06
#268
mantuu | 
United Kingdom Ruicko 
i think there's truth to both sides, sound proof booths would be well within ESL's budget. i personally think they believe what they're saying. there is evidence that ESL aren't tight with money; the profit sharing system they will be running throughout the next EPL gives participating teams something like 25% of profits from the league. dunno why they'd do that and then cheap out on booths if they knew it would detract from the competition.
2020-02-26 23:14
Imagine saying player booths are destroying fan experience but forbiding the crowd to cheer and punish them if they do...
2020-02-21 08:21
ofc they can cheer. Like in many games the crowd keeps shouting some supportive sentence, applause, whistle or whatever. But when they start clearly shouting the enemies positions or making alot noice when the crosshair is on the enemy thru a wall or smoke is fucking disgusting. Just cheer as much as you can after the kill has been made.
2020-02-21 12:33
When they cheer when a crosshair's position is close it's in first instance not to give away the position, but because they are excited of the prospect of an epic play. In the video of Astralis vs Mous, the first reaction was excitement. Then when Xyp9x turned away his crosshair the crowd went silent and thus Xyp9x tested whether or not it was for his POV. At that point the crowd acknowledged his idea and started playing with it, which is where the problem started. Are you going to punish the crowd for getting excited? No, right? And I'm convinced that the first reaction was enough to prompt that reaction from Astralis to at least just check it.
2020-02-23 16:11
It's fucking clear info if the crowd starts cheering when you are about to make plays if you are clutching OR your other teammates are doing basic stuff like rotateing. It's 95% clear they are cheering for your POV. And that's unfair. The crowd can be excited but they don't have to give away info. They can do consistant info like cheering for the whole 30 sec of a clutch not when he's watching a smoke or thru a wall.
2020-02-23 16:29
Then why don't they install soundproof booths? They work! And they work without trying to rely on people dong the right things, because they won't. That's my main issue. You can't expect everyone to think the same, and thus act the same.
2020-02-25 20:40
#8
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United States rad1ey 
i hope this works would be super cool
2020-02-20 23:08
sounds good, doesn't work
2020-02-20 23:09
So the viewing quality suffers because some dipshits ghost for their team? I don't like that, just throw them out ffs
2020-02-20 23:09
you didn't even read the article expected from Germany
2020-02-20 23:09
I read the article, all they do is "educate people" and if people don't behave they restrict viewing experience
2020-02-20 23:18
yeah so how do you not get it? The article doesn't say it directly but throwing people out isn't an option when thousands of people roar before a backstab
2020-02-20 23:19
As soon as you start throwing out people there won't be "thousands of people" roaring. People do it because there are literally no repercussions to do it and they want to help their team. Add repercussions to it and 99% of people will behave. The other 1% will be thrown out ez
2020-02-20 23:21
What about first timers? There should be a lot since events are hosted all over the world
2020-02-20 23:23
ESL said that they will tell them beforehand not to shout so first timers are covered as well.
2020-02-20 23:24
Yeah but there are some shit countries that can't or just won't follow rules. They can't throw them all out tho
2020-02-20 23:25
You don't really believe that there will be places where the majority of people will shout even if they know that they will be thrown out do you? This won't happen
2020-02-20 23:26
#105
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Australia kaos0002 
Youre telling me that they'll throw out an entire stadium of people??? God you're dumb
2020-02-21 01:26
Why not? People will still watch on twitch anyways
2020-02-21 06:12
#173
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Norway TheMushrix 
They payed to be there and if the dont behave i feel like this measure is fair
2020-02-21 09:12
I am telling you that there won't be an entire stadium of people if they start educating them and throwing them out accordingly
2020-02-21 08:48
#44
jks | 
Australia Klashik 
People got thrown out of IEM Sydney for skolling beers, yet everyone kept doing it. Throwing people out for cheering will just mean an empty arena.
2020-02-20 23:30
cheering is good, ghosting is not, like screaming behind you is stupid, idiots like this should be thrown out
2020-02-21 06:26
Good point. you are right, just add a record to the rules of the event under threat of removal from the event object. 1% go out, 99% of satisfied peeps.
2020-02-21 09:48
#11
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Denmark nrth_LUL 
Don't cheer REEEEEEEEE
2020-02-20 23:09
hope it works
2020-02-20 23:11
#14
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Finland Ninjamaa 
I really liked the small crowds of Blast premier group stages. Respectable silence and golf claps after significant plays.
2020-02-20 23:11
it was boring as hell
2020-02-20 23:56
#82
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Finland Ninjamaa 
Yelling crowd naturally makes sports interesting?
2020-02-21 00:22
It works for football, so I guess there's some truth in it.
2020-02-21 01:10
Yeah but in (Euro) football the crowd screaming makes no difference on the result of the game
2020-02-21 03:32
#175
oskar | 
Czech Republic Skleepy 
Do you have any data that supports your claim? If so I would like yout to present it, cause from the spectator point of view it seems like that cheering from the home crowd in football is one of the reasons why teams generally perform better in their stadium in front of their fans and why are away games harder.
2020-02-21 09:19
This is wrong..
2020-02-21 10:06
Crowd noise has no effect in association football. It does in American football though.
2020-02-21 04:21
i only said the crowd was boring. obviously i enjoyed the games
2020-02-21 03:22
#15
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Spain akproxx 
Not gonna work people are full monkies when they are fanboys from x team lol
2020-02-20 23:12
#94
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Germany Jaksin 
They should just kick out all Astralis fans cuz they're the only ones who crowd cheat
2020-02-21 00:46
HAHAHAHAH sure, get the fuck outta here
2020-02-21 01:46
#122
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Australia CaZeR01 
Flagand flair checks out
2020-02-21 02:23
#151
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Turkey GOATVICE 
nt lulquid smoke kills wallbangs timing low hp more than any other tean axaxaxaxxa
2020-02-21 07:18
#166
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Sweden Zupr 
Wtf EG and Liquid were made by crowd cheating
2020-02-21 08:30
#195
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Spain akproxx 
Flag checks out
2020-02-21 12:32
Wtf, what kinda container costs 300k to build? no fucking way it costs that much to build inhouse.
2020-02-20 23:12
#190
RpK | 
France pol44r 
An USA Politics guy (i think a senator) build an entire room tottaly soundproofs for 43K my dad worked in an high level aeronotics as a salesman and he bought booth for 30K each and there where 100m2 each,this man is clearly shitting on us .unless its in fucking monoploly currency.
2020-02-21 11:43
For 600k you can build a fucking villa... no way a booth costs more than 100k
2020-02-21 12:45
#17
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Poland Julka 
That sounds dumb, but I'm not sure if I understood it well
2020-02-20 23:14
#18
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China hzxhl16 
Dont mock EG at least, they didnt use crowd and crowd didn't ghost in Barclays center. They chanted 'sent them home' 'go home Astralis' but never ghost for anyone. Actually some particular fans ghost for Liquid in semi-final of ESL ONE NY 2019, but Liquid lost anyway. And some stupid Astralis fan ghost for Astralis in Grand Final, while Astralis nearly got 0-3ed. lol
2020-02-20 23:15
you didnt watch ESL one NY if u dont think the crowd helped eG lmfao the forums were all over it during that time
2020-02-20 23:26
#39
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China hzxhl16 
Talking about me, OK I was in Barclays Center watching all this whole shit. ->Trust forum people not in arena ->Trust me with actual premium ticket.
2020-02-20 23:28
You know several pros including dupreeh, Elige and Tarik all tweeted about it happening in both the semi finals and finals right? also u could literally hear them shout VENT in two rounds where an astralis player had gone down vents from t-side without being noticed
2020-02-20 23:31
#50
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China hzxhl16 
Can Actual confirm that semi final has ghosting which is pretty shit. And the host told the crowd to behave, before grand final. Cant confirm what happened in Nuke grand final. Tell me which round and let me check.
2020-02-20 23:36
i would have to look through the vod again as i dont remember the round numbers precisely, but it was obviously on astralis' t-side on nuke
2020-02-21 00:07
Clearly you dont understand how that works. The players arent able to hear the crowd. It's the vibrations from all the yelling that gives stuff away. They could yell fuck your mom and the players wouldnt know
2020-02-21 03:35
This is the take that people who havent actually been in an arena like to use cause they saw some other dumbfuck write it in these forums. You can definitely hear what people from the front rows yell. It wasnt long ago a Gratisfaction flipped off some of the audience because they yelled out his position against NIP. talkesport.com/news/gratisfaction-shows-.. also twitter.com/Gratisfaction/status/1114159..
2020-02-21 03:42
Clearly you are talking out your ass. I very much have been to events before and I know that you definitely cannot understand what someone is yelling.
2020-02-22 03:37
im talking out of my ass while handing you tweets from a pro player saying he flipped the audience off cause they called out his position, lmfao nt kid.
2020-02-22 03:41
He didn't hear them he could see them screaming.
2020-02-22 03:42
did u fucking read it? he literally said "cause they called out my position" not "i could see them screaming" and why the fuck would he get mad that he could see someone scream without understanding what they screamed lol
2020-02-22 03:43
You are a legitimate ape if you think he just assumed what they were saying because he could hear them making noise. How would you know that they can't hear what they're saying? It's not like you've ever been up in the booths, I'd trust an actual pro player with this.
2020-02-22 05:16
1. They have a pair of noise cancelling headphones on. 2. They have earbuds on under the noise cancelling headphones with in game sounds and comms. You ever been in a different room as someone while wearing headphones and not been able to understand what they're saying when they yell. That but even more noise cancelling
2020-02-23 02:03
Except they aren't in a room, they in the open and instead of one person yelling it can be dozens. Also, the earbuds with the game sound hardly block any sound, I can hear someone perfectly fine if I have earbuds in. So back to the headphones, if Gratisfaction knew what they were saying which he did since he gave them the finger for it, then there is no need to discuss this. You think if he just saw the crowd screaming he is going to give them the finger?? Not likely
2020-02-23 06:26
#167
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Sweden Zupr 
>Trust deaf person (you) >Trust pros Pick one
2020-02-21 08:31
#191
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France Sleezaille 
>Trust forum people not in arena >Trust a random guy on a forum prenteding he had a premium ticket Pick one
2020-02-21 11:46
#71
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United States Vollizie 
I think saying EG won in NY because of the crowd is a retarded argument considering they won in Belek with no crowd.
2020-02-21 00:02
#73
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China hzxhl16 
Precisely.
2020-02-21 00:05
#163
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Denmark Notallama 
Cant be jetlagged when you play from home.
2020-02-21 08:24
Disable x-ray vision on the arena monitors for a minimum of 20 minutes "for every infraction" on twitch the same? HAHA it's a joke XD
2020-02-20 23:15
It literally said on the ARENA monitors. The pro players don't have second monitors for twitch chat so it's really hard for us twitch viewers to ghost...
2020-02-21 12:40
??? Audience have minimaps i mean audience not players LMAO
2020-02-23 13:53
#20
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Sweden Trkmag 
Hahaha wtf is this? Booths are superior, DH top 1 organizer
2020-02-20 23:18
First pick Ence has partner and now this. Carmac I expected more from you. Make a behaviour code for live crowd give them a reason to stay at home or never come back. They go in the stadium to feel the live expierence. Carmacs idea remeinds me on the poland government the last 3 years. Start controll everything until all people do what u say...
2020-02-20 23:18
"Sound proof booths too expensive", lol only if valve gave two shits, maybe they could help?
2020-02-20 23:19
It's not just about the money, it's more about the spectators' experience Since it's entertainment it really is a neccessary to give the spectators the best time of their life and not lock the players in a booth
2020-02-20 23:22
But really, if you think about it, who is going to give 2 shits if the players are in booths or not? I know I wouldn't not go to a csgo tournament because there are soundproof booths there. If you are really not going to go to a tournament because the players are in booths you're probably not a fan of csgo. I mean hell, TI is literally the biggest tournament anywhere with thousands upon thousands in attendance and every time a team plays, they're all in booths, so really money is the issue here they're just trying to downplay it and change focus towards the crowd being to blame. Just invest the money, and fix the problem. EDIT: Another thing is that the csgo scene has a really huge issue with change. Nobody wants or likes change, but sometimes it is necessary
2020-02-21 01:26
#117
jks | 
Australia Rene_Gade 
As if the crowd gives a fuck if they’re in a booth. It’s all bs. You’re going to see them play on fair conditions if they’re both in booths and remove all the BS crowd cheering conversations. “Can’t feel the energy of the crowd” well umm, they’ll feel it if they win I’m sure.
2020-02-21 02:09
#25
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United States BGS 
I know it's hard but for whatever reason golf has it worked out. No cheering or anything until the play (swing) is over. If a fan interferes with that rule he or she may be thrown out of the venue.
2020-02-20 23:19
#61
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Other PekkaMarkkula 
Does golf have these 10k people arena events?
2020-02-20 23:50
#86
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France LeDiplomate 
There are thousands of spectators at the top tier tournaments.
2020-02-21 00:27
There are tens of thousands of people on the course ropes during PGA events.
2020-02-21 00:42
#165
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Denmark Notallama 
Yes, but they dont sit in arena seats and they are not subjected to the same peer pressure that comes with a crowd of pimply teenagers. CS isn't exactly a "gentlemans" sport like golf, snooker and cricket.
2020-02-21 08:30
that's exactly why golf is so boring
2020-02-20 23:57
#87
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France LeDiplomate 
Golf is boring because of the sport in itself, not the crowd. If you think the enjoyability of watching a sport relies exclusively on the crowd you have a serious mental illness. Sure it contributes to the spectator experience but mentally sane people watch a sport firstly because they like it.
2020-02-21 00:29
cool
2020-02-21 03:21
But you can't give away stuff on golf, it's like on tennis where the main reason is to don't interfere with the player focus.
2020-02-21 01:13
hahahahahahahah
2020-02-20 23:20
#27
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United States 10YearBansRUs 
Ofc Spunj's idea
2020-02-20 23:20
#30
Coronaz | 
China virrus 
500 000$ sound booth? WTFFFFFFFFF
2020-02-20 23:22
#52
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Denmark twinseN 
Yeah that seems alot wtf
2020-02-20 23:40
It's a lie, anyone that does their own research can see that. They probably just found the highest price tag they could and quoted it as an excuse to not invest any more money.
2020-02-22 05:20
#32
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United States kami917 
Cheap move by esl, spend the money we know you have plenty of and be done with it.
2020-02-20 23:23
So... they cant afford proper booths so boohoo fan etiquette, LMAO TLDR ESL is even more money hungry TLDR2 bullshit xd, especially since a lot of ppl remember that DreamHack (as an example) had invested in their booths once and then had them moved from one event to another, its a one-time fucking cost lmao (and not 300k or 700k)
2020-02-20 23:28
#43
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Netherlands staticNL 
shipping of such expensive booths is massively expensive too. ur view of the world is way too simplistic
2020-02-20 23:30
If they could find a way to make deconstructable booths it would cut down the costs a decent bit as they arent transporting the whole booth in one piece. It might be a bit more expensive, but it would help out the scene a bit. Atlanta was a huge example of the crowd just basically ghosting for the teams. Theres even clips where you can blatantly here fans shouting "window" in Portuguese in an SK match on Mirage
2020-02-20 23:37
#56
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Netherlands staticNL 
The thing is, even deconstructed, shipping something that large and valuable worldwide will be hugely expensive, no matter what you do. I think its a good idea to have the crowd only cheer after the round has ended. This would eliminate ghosting and would also stop people from screaming when a sick play is ongoing (and interfere with this play). Ive never understood why crowds for example cant keep their mouths shut when someone is trying to knife or flank an enemy. Theyre ruining the play. Whats the use of cheering for something, when the cheering can cause the thing you cheer for not to happen? Apparently booths have vibration issues when people cheer, so even with booths the plays I gave as an example above will still be disrupted.
2020-02-20 23:45
The best solution overall would be invest into sound cancellation headphones with insane silencing power, and shipping isnt event that bad of a cost. The only thing that would be hard to ship is the glass/plastic because its be more fragile than the steel. Even then on average if it was to be shipped by truck it would only be a few thousand dollars. Nothing to top TOs. To ship by plane then it could take about 15k usd to ship but I would honestly say either give slightly smaller prize pools (i.e, 1 mil to 950k) to pay for those costs, or raise ticket prices by a small bit. I would be willing to pay an extra 30 bucks if it meant helping them provide the best possible experience for the event
2020-02-21 01:09
#113
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Netherlands staticNL 
"The best solution overall would be invest into sound cancellation headphones with insane silencing power" I wonder if this is possible, seeing as none of the TOs have used suh a thing. I also personally have no clue as to how much shipping costs actually are. Carmac and someone else (cant remember who, maybe SirScoots) said in interviews that the costs would be immense. Safely shipping heavy duty booths is too expensive and a logistical nightmare according to them iirc.
2020-02-21 02:07
Just going for high decible resistant headphones would be the cheapest alternative, but it would take a very long time to actually work towards this and theyd need either their own subcomoany working on the science of it, or give a contract to some manufacturer to research it (HyperX imho opinion would probably be able to produce the best quality version of this). All we can hope for is the crowd at least behaving until a more permanent solution is found. I personally would rather see the booths as it may be an expensive solution, but the best at the current moment. I could even see a world where Valve produces them and has them set in certain places in storage to provide for the Majors specifically, or a world where TOs dont cuck eachother and share them. Ideally the booths would be nice, but logistically it would be the biggest challenge in the short run
2020-02-21 02:37
#131
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Netherlands staticNL 
Well, let's hope its possible. I'd still reckon it would take some time to develop them. I personally recommend looking at other industries that deal with hugely loud noises and see what they use. I prefer booths too, don't get me wrong. I just understand why companies tend to not use them. All of these solutions still do not fix the vibration issue. That's why I don't mind these new rules ESL is implenting. I do not think it takes anything away from the spectators' experience, when people can't ruin possibly sick plays with their screams. They'd still be able to chant and react to kills that have already happened. They just won't be able to preemptively make sound leading up to a play. I even hate it when people start cheering once a team has decided to save and thus letting the other team know that they are saving. This can result in less weapons saved. I'm a purist in the sense that I do not want the spectators to influence anything in the game, except for the players' state of mind.
2020-02-21 03:35
I think any serious fan is a purist in terms of trying to get the best possible events we can. While other industries might be able to develop better technology, I would still say putting on a specialist manufacturer to develop might work best to create the highest quality product. You could always have one industry look into it, and then sell the finished product to manufacturers to use. The vibration aspect might be an issue with booths but I've never heard a single complaint from them, though i could see that if booths were the norm for TOs. Even then, I'm sure the cancellation from headsets might be enough so that vibrations arent a complete issue, I'd be more worried about the conditions inside of them
2020-02-21 04:02
Headphones are a bad idea, that leaves the possibility of players cheating. The classic "I'm readjusting my headphones" move mid-round every round. They should not leave anything up to the players, because you can't trust anyone when that much money is on the line.
2020-02-22 05:24
Are you shitting me? "Ur view of the world is way too simplistic"? these booths are easy to assemble back and forth, they are cheap as fuck if you go into one of them. Transportation costs, but it doesnt cost tens of thousands of dollars. They are not made of a fucking titanium or even concrete (obviously :D). The biggest weight comes with the glass (but I guess it's plastic crap in most cases). From my own experience, I'd say that it would cost 20-30k USD per event once the initial investment is there. They just cut the costs lol. If you knew how any ESL employees are treated internally (ridiculous salaries, shit conditions) you would know that they just want to eat as much dollars as possible. Why do you think they have chosen Katowice for IEM in the first place LMAO, POLAND IS CHEAP. They even contracted ARAM (polish stage constructing company) to do most of the stages for most of their events internationally BECAUSE MONEY HUNGRY MUNCH MUNCH.
2020-02-21 00:26
#89
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France LeDiplomate 
Can you tell me what is the problem with a company making money (mby you are a commie then flag would check out)?? Also I would rather trust the two guys above with rational points rather than you saying: "EsL Is MoNeY HuNgRy tHeY ArE A ShIt cOmPaNy!!! "
2020-02-21 00:34
You're drunk. All I am saying is that this policy is ridiculous as assembling proper booths is not that expensive. If you want to go with the expensive options you can not only make soundproof booths but also booths with one-way mirrors. It - is - not - that - expensive, that's all. That's why this news is ridiculous. The facts are ridiculous. It doesn't cost that much. If you don't believe me just go to a random stage design company and ask them for a quote. Seriously.
2020-02-21 00:50
#106
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Netherlands staticNL 
The reason ESL and other TOs try to save as much money as they can, is because theyre bleeding money.
2020-02-21 01:37
Bleeding money ? Bruhhh lmfao In every tournament they do they have expos and gaming booths hired by companies to advertise their product and they make them pay shit ton of money They got seat tickets to make money from They are also partnered with some of the hotels and they suggest them to people coming from abroad to stay in them and they take a cut. They got their own products that they sell + you see those pro teams products sold ? (shirts ect) they also take a cut of it . They sell you food indoors and they make money of it And the prize pools are always provided by the sponsors im pretty sure they dont pay for anything when it comes to prize money + the pc's / chairs are brought by the sponsors What they have to pay for is logistics and transportation pretty much But believe me they arent bleeding anything.
2020-02-22 17:14
#250
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Netherlands staticNL 
Hosting events costs milions. It doesnt matter that youre explaining where they get their revenue from, its not enough.
2020-02-22 17:49
it costs milion from the sponsors not from the organizers u are contradicting your own self
2020-02-22 22:33
#252
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Netherlands staticNL 
No im not contradicting myself. The sponsors only pay a portion of the total costs. Where are you even getting the idiotic idea from that sponsors pay millions per event?
2020-02-22 22:39
since when do organizers pump money to organize? i guess you never organized an event in your life even small organizers don't bother investing in prize pools , its all paid by sponsors especially when it comes to big organizers like esl and dreamhack
2020-02-22 23:00
just put 20 sec delay on crow stream easy
2020-02-20 23:25
#90
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France LeDiplomate 
Ok let me break down the consequences of your solution: It would litteraly ruin the fan experience as they would see which team won a clutch situation or even the match. Then no passion and no cheering and no fan experience and no one going to the arena and lack of revenue and bad press for the TO and loss of sponsors and shutdown of the company and death of the scene. Sounds great mate! 👍
2020-02-21 00:37
LOL. "Were going to do nothing" in fancy words. JOKE
2020-02-20 23:29
#41
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Netherlands staticNL 
Very good
2020-02-20 23:29
#42
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United States sorcrcrc 
"PSA videos" lmao
2020-02-20 23:29
If the fans listen, it would be nice If they dont, soundproof booths. Give it like a 5 tournament trial run
2020-02-20 23:35
i dontz understand, games like Dota2 or League have all sound proof booths but in csgo we don't. why?
2020-02-20 23:36
In Dota valve pays for the most events 50%
2020-02-21 00:03
#49
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Mexico MEXlCO 
its gonna be hard to control the crowd, on the other side spunj idea is actually genious, gl!
2020-02-20 23:36
Nice, we don't need booths, just kick the toxic people out.
2020-02-20 23:41
#55
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United Kingdom whatacliche 
Astralis is finished.
2020-02-20 23:41
yeah not like they won 15+ tourneys with the crowds being against them from the start, oh wait
2020-02-21 00:09
#79
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United Kingdom whatacliche 
Imagine losing on home soil with crowd cheating, LUL.
2020-02-21 00:13
you mean that one incident in Overpass where the crowd went "ooooooh", people like u just cried about it cause it was Astralis, it literally happened to a much greater extend in every single american tournament. Also imagine not even having won 4 majors, 1 igs, 20+ t1 trophies and being 1# for 104 weeks
2020-02-21 00:15
#57
ZywOo | 
United States 7RU7H 
ESL is and will forever be the best !
2020-02-20 23:44
I think they should only run x-ray on replays for the audience anyway. Turn it off while the match is running. A side benefit is that fans would even more appreciate the actual skill these players have.
2020-02-20 23:50
#60
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Finland Ninjamaa 
Legit big brain move
2020-02-20 23:50
#91
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France LeDiplomate 
Cool idea but in big arenas it wouldn't work as fans would litteraly only see the killfeed and not the players.
2020-02-21 00:38
The only reason they wouldn't see the players is if they're not looking at the screen. X-Ray hasn't always been here in matches we as viewers see. It came in as a benefit so that viewers watching matches could anticipate what was going to happen. It's only for spectators. Before it was in, spectators still saw guys running around and shooting each other.
2020-02-21 02:10
It's much more fun to watch when you know where the payers are and watch happening. For example if the observer is spectating someone is a smoke you don't see shit. And if you do something else than watch a stream for a few seconds you can miss very round changing frag if the xray isn't on.
2020-02-21 12:48
I agree. It is fun. However, if in pro matches there's a real problem where pros are given hints by the crown, it can be a problem.
2020-02-21 14:48
No more majors for NA teams
2020-02-20 23:49
lol so ur expecting one of the most toxic communities in the world full of degenerate 15-20yr olds to obey these ridiculous rules? You want them to stay quiet at a point when they should be feeling so hyped up that their favorite team or player is about to do something amazing...What a ridiculous angle to come at this problem at...You cant just spend a million dollars on some fucking booths and be done with it? You were bought out for almost $100million in 2015, you have to be worth much more than that now...gimme a break u cheap fucks.
2020-02-20 23:52
#107
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Netherlands staticNL 
ESL are bleeding money. The investment of MTG didn't turn out as they had hoped. The new ESL league and format is kind of their last ditch effort of trying to turn the business around.
2020-02-21 01:40
has anyone been fired over the poor decisions made in the last 3 years? They are by far the biggest event holders in csgo and u were bought for almost 100mil 3 years ago...where did all the money go?
2020-02-21 01:45
#110
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Netherlands staticNL 
I think they overspent in order to try to get a monopoly on the scene. Happens a lot with VC investments. Theyve tried to become an exclusive league for quite some time, but Valve has stopped them in their tracks. Not only did they not get the monopoly they wanted, but the exclusivity fell through too. This has a huge impact on how much ESL can make. This new EPL league's twist on exclusivity might be their last chance to start making money. Also, overspending in the start kind of pushes you into a corner as a company. The production quality has been raised time and time again, and they can't really go back now, even though they do not have the funds to sustain this quality. It would all have been worth it if they had managed to get the monopoly or exclusivity they wanted. Perhaps they misjudged as well how much esports fans spend. I have no clue if anyone has been fired.
2020-02-21 01:52
#114
jks | 
Australia Rene_Gade 
What’s mtg?
2020-02-21 02:06
#115
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Netherlands staticNL 
A Swedish tv conglomerate that is the parent company of ESL, Dreamhack and ESEA. They bought all of those properties a few years back with a huge investment.
2020-02-21 02:08
#121
jks | 
Australia Rene_Gade 
Interesting. The problem is the events run in so many different places, shipping expensive booths that meet the fire codes of every country they play in would be a headache, I understand that. However, that’s their problem.
2020-02-21 02:12
+1000.
2020-02-21 03:26
#63
L.K.S | 
Brazil Exfm 
I thought this was a Brazillian crowd only thing
2020-02-20 23:53
#116
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Netherlands staticNL 
Nah, it happens in a lot of countries.
2020-02-21 02:09
#64
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Argentina Konigmdq 
lmao 2020 and there isnt anti-sound glass?
2020-02-20 23:55
They need to stop announcers being heard in the arenas. That doesn't happen in any other sport. It's not hard for a team to just hold down their mic button and listen to the announcers. Seen it happening at multiple events now.
2020-02-20 23:55
#67
fnx | 
Australia NikTendo 
lmao imagine going to a event paying money and you cant even cheer before something exciting happens
2020-02-20 23:56
How can you expect someone to pay to go to an event and then tell them to not make any sound whilst they are there no point actually going to one of these events in person anymore
2020-02-20 23:58
#119
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Netherlands staticNL 
The people will be allowed to make sound as soon as the round ends. People don't scream and cheer in sports like tennis either. It can still be a lot of fun to watch games live and share the fun with people around you. Apparently people are still allowed to scream after people do sick frags too, just not when a player is doing some kind of ninja-ish play (a knife, letting people pass them, an unnoticed flank).
2020-02-21 02:11
#76
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United Kingdom sslemons 
needed this years ago tbh
2020-02-21 00:07
The director should also more actively remove the x-ray in such situations to avoid crowd pointing out potential wallbangs (remember the ridiculous Olof wallbang on Cache a while ago). It's definitely something which has become a more common thing to remove the x-ray temporarily but it wasn't done that actively before, even in majors but has become a lot more common in recent tournaments so that helps a big deal also.
2020-02-21 00:08
Sounds good. Anything to prevent people from gaining unfair advantage competition wise sounds good for my viewing experience, since I don't care about the arena experience. Somebody else might not like this and I can understand that as well, there are different reasons for different people to watch CS. Some care about crowd noises during rounds and some don't.
2020-02-21 00:21
Rip ticket sales
2020-02-21 00:25
#88
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China SwooksarV2 
Lol. Gl on controlling crowd.
2020-02-21 00:31
#93
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France LeDiplomate 
Cool idea but it would only work with actual educated and smart people, which is not the case of 99.9999% of the CS:GO community, especially looking at the population going to arenas, consisting in its vast majority of immature/uneducated/jobless people between 15 and 30. This idea is consequently a pure utopia and ESL should know that it is unapplicable in real life.
2020-02-21 00:45
"Ruin the player experience", bitch please. The solution is simple and has already been tested. If your business requires certain expenses, then cough up the expenses to run your business. How is not wanting to spend capital even a remotely acceptable excuse. Also call bullshit on the price tag. How many homes can you buy in Poland for 300K (let alone 700)? Surely aluminum framing and glass does not cost more than a Ferrari. How did this dude even say that with a straight face. The idea isn't to make these booths dead silent, you want the noise reduced to a point where the player can still hear the crowd over the silencing ear muffs but not to the point they could make out singular sounds. That way you don't hear people gasp on potential knife kills but still feel the vibe of everyone screaming after a won round. You should be teaching fans etiquette regardless of having or not having a booth. That's def not the solution
2020-02-21 00:53
#101
walle | 
Australia sini_ 
So it'll be like tennis where the ref says "Quiet please" before serving. Everyone will be saying oooo and ahhh during the round and applaud once round is complete amirite?? Good luck trying to control an aussie crowd if that may ever be the case.
2020-02-21 01:11
#103
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United States MattEnTheHat 
People saying this can't possibly work have probably never been to a tennis match. They take that silence super seriously. It may not be easy to get there, but its definitely possible. That said... is that actually what we want for CS? I personally think those sports where you have to sit in silence as a fan are extremely boring to watch in person - what's the point of being a fan, if you can't actually be a fan? At that point I'd actually prefer to watch from home, where I can get excited. Also, they say they'll disable x-ray as a "punishment," but what about the minimap? Is the assumption just that most people won't pay much attention to that? Or is that gone as well? Finally, even if this works for honest audience reactions, what about the possibility of active cheating? As it stands, a "fan" could easily, for example, hold up a sign every time the Ts are going B, and lower it when they're going A. As far as I know there's no evidence that anyone has actually cheated in this way, but is it something that should be addressed before it becomes an issue?
2020-02-21 01:22
#112
jks | 
Australia Rene_Gade 
Well the fans are paying to attend. Also, these events have alcohol right? Shifting the onus to the crowd is just dumb. It’s obvious they should be in booths, it’s just about cost and logistics. They don’t want that headache so they’re blame shifting to their *customers* - ESL pulling an Apple. “You’re cheering wrong!”
2020-02-21 02:04
+1. Greedy clowns.
2020-02-21 03:21
Good
2020-02-21 02:11
What a fucking cool story. Also "caring" so much about the experience, but going to ruin it with new measures, kek.
2020-02-21 03:20
#128
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Ukraine YaKuryuMnogo 
Astralis won’t win a major now
2020-02-21 03:26
#130
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Brazil bigjohnson 
$800,000 for a pair of booths???? WTF?? Are they made of gold or something?? Sounds like bullshit to me...
2020-02-21 03:29
good luck with this in places like china where the entire crowd are cheating idiots
2020-02-21 03:52
#140
jks | 
Australia Rene_Gade 
Here's a free idea. - 5-10k in manhours (project research costs) - Find a median between the fire/safety codes of the top 10 countries you run comps in - Create a modular flatpackable design that meets these standards (10-30k manhours/engineering costs?) - Find a vendor that can provide 4+ with a reasonable BOM and construction cost (engineering cost could be offloaded to vendor) - Ship them in advance to events you're running (send 2 to each event for playoffs at least to allow slipstreaming)
2020-02-21 05:16
#148
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World Beard43 
I disagree in regards to soundproof booths affecting the experience. The crowd cannot hear the players, they can only see them, regardless of whether there is or isn't a booth. The players hearing the crowd is literally the problem we're trying to solve. If their only argument was the expense I can't refute that, but half of their argument against the booths is garbage. How about some player etiquette too, what Xyp9x did was blatant cheating. The fact that he even tried to talk it down is another matter and speaks to his personal character.
2020-02-21 06:45
SPUNJ 150+ IQ
2020-02-21 07:02
#152
ceh9 | 
World mukas17 
Teams who benefit from the crowd should be fined, like it is in sports. I know it's not the same because there aren't real home and away teams so it's not like fining the home team for clear fan bias, but it's a way to discourage fans from doing it.
2020-02-21 07:42
#154
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United States Nohj 
RIP Astralis
2020-02-21 07:49
RIP Liquid,EG and all the NA teams coz their audience are the worst
2020-02-21 08:13
Now this is the next level of stupidity from ESL, they are really starting to dig their own grave
2020-02-21 08:40
#169
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Europe JuliusCaesar 
It won't work but let em try. Put some delay on the crowd, lets say 15 sec and thats it.
2020-02-21 08:48
lul. these are the sort of news you realise what clownfiesta csgo is. kids think everyone gets rich and makes millions, but even the biggest player in bizz basically admits that their calculations and numbers dont allow them to place some booths on the stage for a minimum standard of fair competition. LUL
2020-02-21 09:02
The players can get rich, only few though I consider rich but there is plenty wealthy players.
2020-02-21 10:32
yes players are the only ones who actually make money. but I dont mean players, I mean the "biggest player on the market" of TOs.
2020-02-21 10:51
ESL runs in the red since they joined cs.go. But investing in booth doesn't help when they vibrate anyway when the crowd roars. Getting the crowd being civilized is much more helpful
2020-02-21 10:54
a crowd that doesnt react to the game wont happen. thats the reason why ppl go together to live events. thats not a question of being civilized. btw you can make boxes which dont vibrate. but it`s fantasy if "cheap" boxes already are too expensive.
2020-02-21 11:00
Crowd reaction going hype isn't the problem. When someone clutches and then the entire Stadium is on fire, that's what you want. Players feeling 10000 people celebrating their play is great. When someone goes for the backstab and everyone shouts, it sucks. Getting viewers civilized to not go over the collective oooh will help much.
2020-02-21 11:47
"$700,000 to $800,000" holy shit.
2020-02-21 09:17
#180
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Iceland Cirros_V2 
How it can cost that much? U can build a nice house for that...
2020-02-21 10:16
my guess is to pass safety regulations
2020-02-21 10:44
yes. imagine there is a fire because caused by the whole electricity stuff and players sit in a huge styropor box which starts melting before ppl might realise that somethings wrong. It `s a death trap for the players, and the arena is full of toxic smoke within a few mins too. I think it`s pretty costly to make such booths for big arenas.
2020-02-21 11:10
Good idea, interesting to see how it pans out
2020-02-21 10:30
#186
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Poland friendlySeb 
GJ. Finally.
2020-02-21 10:54
#194
s1mple | 
Germany psymax 
Like cmon you cant do it with csgo audience no one will give a f
2020-02-21 12:19
#197
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Sweden Drummish 
Man, imagine saying that no sound booths""raises the experience on an emotional level" and creates moments that become "meaningful and memorable" for the fans and players - and then trying to control the fans reactions in the crowd to certain moments of the game. How is that not doing exactly the same thing? Isnt it better that the crowd can react in any way possible but still not give information away to the teams? You know.. via Soundbooths? This should really be a non issue in 2020. You have the money to build the soundbooths, stop being cheap and fix the issue.. you will never be able to control every individual in a crowd.
2020-02-21 12:34
why not stream game with small delay, 5 sec maybe?
2020-02-21 14:23
soundproof booths ezest solution
2020-02-21 15:09
This is ridiculous. Imagine controlling BR crowd and then trying to eject a BR from arena hahahaha. Man, this will be a shitshow in major if these rules are the same. Maybe this can work in more civilized countries. I am paying to see ESL applying these rules in major!
2020-02-21 15:30
That's exactly what i was thinking about. If they disable x-ray, people should start booing until they turn it back on. I paid for the fucking full experience i have nothing to do with 3 guys in the front seats bad behavior.
2020-02-21 20:37
#218
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Denmark synod1c 
Are they making these soundproof booths out of fucking adamantium? They should NEVER cost that much for what they're trying to achieve. Probably trying to get Steelseries to sponsor the glass and Razer to sponsor the fucking paint.
2020-02-21 16:57
Provide players with aviation headsets with noise cancelling - 800$ a piece! Remove X-Ray from crowd screen - free! - Problem solved
2020-02-21 21:21
i think i found out what the crowd interference measures are
2020-02-27 20:25
ESL announces crowd interference measures for IEM Katowice: playoffs to be played without audience
2020-02-28 19:24
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