THREAT: "It's way easier to change the behavior of these players than it was with the old ones"

In our next post-IEM Katowice interview, Björn "⁠THREAT⁠" Pers discussed his return to the scene and shared his impressions of the new NiP lineup.

The Swedish veteran returned to activity late last year when he rejoined NiP as an assistant/strategic coach before taking over the role of the head coach from Faruk "⁠pita⁠" Pita in early 2020.

After they also brought in Tim "⁠nawwk⁠" Jonasson, the new team has so far placed third in Group A of BLAST Premier, falling to the Showdown, and went out in the group stage at IEM Katowice after conceding series to Vitality and Natus Vincere, picking up a victory over Cloud9 in between.

THREAT shared his view on assigning roles on a map basis

We got to talk to THREAT following his team's exit from the Polish event to find out how his return to the scene has gone and what his first impressions of the new roster are, as well as to discuss other topics such as the role changes NiP had to undergo after nawwk's addition and their new-found affinity for Vertigo.

Touching on your result at IEM Katowice at first, coming into the tournament you were one of the underdogs and ended up placing 9th-12th, how do you reflect on how you performed in the end?

We're quite disappointed with the placing we got. Our goal was to reach the playoffs, but if you look at the teams we lost to, we didn't lose to any bad teams, we lost to Vitality and Na`Vi. However, some of the maps, especially Mirage versus Na`Vi, we felt that we didn't give it our best, which makes us really disappointed. The Mirage game, we just played really badly in combination with s1mple playing really well. In hindsight, I think we are a bit disappointed, but we know what we have to work on to improve.

Going back to your return to the scene, you were gone for close to two years, did you find that the landscape had changed when you came back? How difficult did you find it to come back into it?

There were some differences on some of the maps, some meta shifting, for example throwing the molotov on Overpass towards the A slope wasn't really a big thing when I quit, now it's definitely a part of the meta in how you approach that part of the map. Other than that, no big difference outside of new maps. People are more skilled today, I can tell, and there are new players, but the way you approach and play the game hasn't changed that much.

What are your impressions of the new lineup after the first couple of months?

It's very different than the previous lineup I joined in 2016, obviously, because then it was super-experienced, older players, whereas now it's younger, more hungry players. When we started building this project when f0rest left, we said "okay, let's just bring a completely fresh player in nawwk, and just build this for the long run." So we knew it was going to take a while, there are probably going to be some hurdles along the way, especially when it comes to experience and having that winner mentality. So even though we are disappointed about this tournament, for example, we kind of expected that it was going to be quite rough in the beginning.

How has your approach changed, then, from dealing with experienced players back then to the position that you're in now? What kind of difficulties does that bring?

It's kind of nice in the sense that now you can actually mold the players more, they don't have the old bad habits that I also had as a player, coming from the old scene where the players controlled everything. Now it can actually be a fresh start and we can become more professional, in a sense. It's way easier to change the behavior of these players than it was with the old ones.

It's easier to mold the younger players, THREAT says

How did you deal with the role changes that you had to make because of nawwk coming in, now having two primary AWPers?

When you assign roles in CS, I usually prefer to do it on a map basis rather than on the whole. It's so different playing the AWP on different maps. If you look at all my old teams, I never really had a dedicated AWPer. Maybe one exception was draken, but, in that case, he was just so much more skilled with the weapon than the other players. But if you play Overpass or Dust2 or Inferno, the skillset you need is so different. If it just so happens that one player is better in that position, I don't see that he shouldn't do it just because he doesn't have that role on all the maps.

You've been putting a lot of time into Vertigo, which is a completely new map for you as you were saying, but even for the team, who didn't play it much before the BLAST Global Final. Now you're clearly comfortable enough with it to pick it into teams like Liquid, what is it that makes you so comfortable on it?

Well, if you just look at our results, it doesn't look that good. (laughs) But at the same time, we've had really tough opponents in the few matches that we actually played officially. It's a new map, we're a new team, everyone was so hungry. I love theory-crafting on newer maps and so do all these younger players, so they just join me and that makes it a lot easier to play it during practice. In the beginning, it was really difficult because we just kept losing, but everyone was just open-minded. In practice, everything has been doing so well on that map, it's just our comfort zone right now.

What do you make of the map as a whole and on the meta that is played on it now?

I think it's actually in quite a good place right now. A big part of the map is battling for the A ramp area and it's almost like playing for banana on Inferno in the way that you need to keep your utility as both T and CT, which makes it kind of interesting. There's no perfect positioning for the CTs to do. You have to be aggressive sometimes, sometimes you have to be defensive. You're kind of always put into slightly awkward positions, which I think is a good sign of a balanced map. You always have to be on your toes and be active as CT. It's not static, at all, which I really like.

I wanted to close out with NiP's decision to partner up with ESL for Pro League and the entire Pro Tour. Can you tell me what the reasons were to side with ESL rather than FLASHPOINT?

Well, no. It's a good thing now in NiP that we have separate roles and I'm only focused on in-game, Counter-Strike related things.

Bosnia and Herzegovina Faruk 'pita' Pita
Faruk 'pita' Pita
Age:
29
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
0.90
Maps played:
173
KPR:
0.63
DPR:
0.73
APR:
0.15
Sweden Björn 'THREAT' Pers
Björn 'THREAT' Pers
Age:
32
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
0.78
Maps played:
54
KPR:
0.52
DPR:
0.68
APR:
0.13
Sweden Tim 'nawwk' Jonasson
Tim 'nawwk' Jonasson
Age:
22
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
1.11
Maps played:
664
KPR:
0.75
DPR:
0.63
APR:
0.10
Change your own behavior old man
2020-03-02 20:02
#6
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Czech Republic Xedys
He said it's hard
2020-03-02 20:06
But in the end it doesn't even matter
2020-03-02 20:16
I tried so hard and got so far But in the end, it doesn't even matter I had to fall to lose it all But in the end, it doesn't even matter
2020-03-02 20:19
#18
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Brazil _FaZeUP
f o with those tr*sh songs
2020-03-02 20:42
It's not trash . But in the end, it doesn't even matter.
2020-03-02 20:45
#31
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China CNCSLUL
lmao btw I loved that song But in the end, it doesn't even matter.
2020-03-02 21:46
Yeah same I tried so hard and got so far But in the end, it doesn't even matter.
2020-03-02 23:01
+1
2020-03-10 11:20
Inking Park Overrated but not the worse trash than most honk honk decade music.
2020-03-03 20:11
Are a russian saying linkin park is overated? Wtf do Ryssland know about music? Have you ever had a famous artist more then lesbian tattoo that made 1 hit song? Or techno slav dude be Quiet and drink your voodka
2020-03-04 01:35
Linkin park gay music. I only listen to cardi b. Atleast she is a decent human
2020-03-04 02:56
#67
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Mongolia OMgL
jokes aside tho, why do people actually listen to and support people like cardi b, lil pump etc.
2020-03-04 08:33
Smartphones and inbreeding with Africans lowered average IQ dramatically. People can't even decide what sign to put on public toilets.
2020-03-04 14:52
"inbreeding with Africans" lowered the average IQ... God, what am I reading these days... I guess we all understand what stupidity looks like.
2020-03-08 13:01
She is litterly the most trash person on earth. Music so bad, only white bitches who act like they are black listen to her music
2020-03-04 19:11
#66
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Russia Amodeus
Do you know that you can point your cursor on the country flag and double check that it's Russian? Now you look stupid, you know)
2020-03-04 08:06
This song taking me back
2020-03-03 18:01
hes basicly sayin gtr bad wtf
2020-03-02 20:13
#19
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Brazil _FaZeUP
bot_right*
2020-03-02 20:43
never
2020-03-02 21:38
unlike ChoKo, GeT_RiGhT has won a major at CS:GO and a couple of at 1.6. faze fanboy KEKW
2020-03-02 21:42
#53
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Brazil _FaZeUP
So does Happy, Kio, TACO, Dosia, Adren... It means nothing. Niko>Bot_Right
2020-03-03 14:11
#74
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United States stotte
Also if tarik can win a major in CSGO, surely NiKo can
2020-03-06 23:53
Yep, that's triggering to hear...
2020-03-03 00:21
#50
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Estonia RopzTop1
coldzera should retire as well
2020-03-03 08:51
#54
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Brazil _FaZeUP
Cold>Mouz
2020-03-03 14:12
#56
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Estonia RopzTop1
yes coldzera is better than the German player mouz I agree mousesports > faze tho
2020-03-03 16:24
#45
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Indonesia lumayan
Well, truth is he is bad lol
2020-03-03 01:22
#28
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Afghanistan Sam1G
Let's see if the change give any result
2020-03-02 21:30
#2
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Montenegro Kladiz
GOD
2020-03-02 20:01
Show me then
2020-03-02 20:01
no shit. ofc its easier for younger players with less experience to be changed
2020-03-02 20:01
+1
2020-03-02 20:02
the old player have ego, that's all
2020-03-03 00:23
#7
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Germany Umgeflickt
Greetings to Petz
2020-03-02 20:09
#8
LETN1 | 
Poland Szcz
Why is my country not good in CS no more(((((
2020-03-02 20:10
Ahahahahahah because they suck .
2020-03-02 20:20
says juanflatroo lul only albanian hope
2020-03-02 20:36
Juanflatroo top 3 in 2020 Sinnopssy top 6 Rigon top 8 NA out of top 20 4h4h4h4h4
2020-03-02 20:38
k mens)))
2020-03-02 20:44
just spitting facts .
2020-03-02 20:46
#25
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Brazil KriMb3R
2 buddy, 2 :(
2020-03-02 20:52
#68
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Mongolia OMgL
I guess that's what you get for being toxic, now the danes will see their scene suck after being toxic for a long time
2020-03-04 08:35
LUL
2020-03-02 20:17
W
2020-03-02 20:20
thats why nip is the first team out from every tournament
2020-03-02 20:35
#23
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Romania JeeFo
I do not see this lineup being a stable Top 10 presence.
2020-03-02 20:46
#24
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Romania JeeFo
Twist & Lekro are at an age where they surely won't get better. Rez's age is good, but he's been on a downward spiral for quite some time, it's hard to see him get much better moving forward. Nawwk and Plopski can become better, although a player like f0rest at their age was already a superstar. These two players are definitely not superstars.
2020-03-02 20:52
Thank you for your thorough analysis, we'll pass it to our analytic team. ~ NiP community Team.
2020-03-02 23:01
#36
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Sweden flippig
lol
2020-03-02 23:15
+1 lmaoooo
2020-03-03 01:48
#51
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Romania JeeFo
Haha, there wouldn't be any need to pass anything to any team, it's not like they can do much about it.
2020-03-03 09:26
Ok, we won't talk about it then, good talk. ~ NiP community Team
2020-03-03 18:06
wtf very rude
2020-03-02 21:05
#27
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Brazil Elakk
Please threat tell lekro to not fuck up
2020-03-02 21:14
I miss NiP being at the top so much
2020-03-02 21:47
#33
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Brazil Fauchard
dont spit up
2020-03-02 22:35
#37
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Poland SebL
Good to have you back.
2020-03-02 23:37
Much rather have the players mold themselves and get chemistry between them. Sounds like he wants to make them facory new.
2020-03-02 23:37
#40
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Japan chanse
Yeah, change NIP from tier 3 to tier 99
2020-03-02 23:40
Older player grew up in a cenario that cs wasnt so big and seen as a carrer. Newer players already grew up with cs teams having psicological suport and professional guiding.
2020-03-02 23:48
is he shitting on forest and getright?
2020-03-03 01:14
Yes
2020-03-03 04:51
Don't be silly. How can you change someone with 15 years exp playing at a higher level than threat ever has, compared to new guys that are basically just starting out.
2020-03-03 05:20
Was thinking the same.. If you put it in perspective to other sports, these players did whatever they want on the field, as long as rest did follow orders
2020-03-03 06:43
#52
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Japan Inlivino
as expected from backstabber.
2020-03-03 09:38
#55
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Indonesia Namesk1Y
Yes Easier But you just make a trophy wit old ones
2020-03-03 15:49
-twist lekro +plessen hampus
2020-03-03 18:12
why would you even want to change him f0rest is the fucking GOAT of CS
2020-03-03 20:05
It was forest wanted to leave aswell both för hon self and nip. He felt be cant and dont want to be put in a awp role... whitch been stupid.. forest have always been a aggresive play whit insane moment and one of the best riflers ever... m4a1 and ak god
2020-03-04 01:41
#64
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Indonesia rareguy
well you can't change the experience they had...
2020-03-04 02:55
You can't really change the experiance that the old NiP lineup.... experienced. Also what they experienced is much more a asset than a liability. Also going for the longterm might be a bit hard. namely with players like REZ. He was a beast when NiP first picked him up. He is still a great player. But he is getting old. Also sorry to say this but you pretty much have to rebuild NiP. Before NiP literally revolved around F0rest and GeT_RiGhT. Even when GeT_RiGhT was falling off you still pretty much relied on him and F0rest. Now you have no player to revolve your team around, maybe other than REZ, but even I dont think he can do it.
2020-03-05 01:52
#73
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United States stotte
Mate they've rebuilt NiP seven times over
2020-03-06 23:48
every time they "rebuilt" it, it was with Cores. When Fifflaren left they still had their IGL, Lurker, Entry Fragger, and main Rifler. When Friberg left, they still had their IGL, Lurker, and Rifler. Even when Xizt left they had the core. F0rest and GeT_RiGhT were the best on the team. even when GTR left, watch the games. F0rest was still dominate and NiP's strategies almost completely revolved around F0rest and REZ. now they don't have a core.
2020-03-07 02:40
Yeah, no shit players like f0rest and gtr won't take tips from you, they fuckin made you back in fnatic.
2020-03-12 13:39
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